I thoroughly recommend taking ebikes on trains for extra range, and you can also charge them from wall sockets provided. Just don't forget to lock the bike to something, otherwise someone could just walk off with it at the next stop before yours!
Looks so easy to take on the bus when there is no one else on it. That's a no brainer. I would love to see a video of someone bringing it onto a crowded bus.
I'd like to see a head-to-head comparison between the ADO Air 20 and the Morfuns Eole X. On paper, both are very similar 20" wheel folders. They have the same wattage hub motors. Both use large diameter seat "post" batteries. Both are close in overall weight. The Air 20 is slightly less expensive, slightly less weight, and uses a carbon belt, and 9.6 ah battery. The Eole X has a typical chain with 8-speed rear derailleur. It also has rudimentary rear suspension (and optional suspension fork), and optional 15ah battery.
This was brilliant. Solidify customer relations AND test out the newbie ebike...2 birds with 1 stone. Of course I'd like a home delivery from electroheads...to Trinidad. I think that's a bit off your route😂
As an owner of a hyper folding Brompton, it is now down to 9,35 kilo, and still falling, when I get my last parts added to my bike. Yours are at most ½ a bike! In Denmark we are mostly allowed to bring also ordinary bikes in trains, for a fee, but a Brompton is free of any extra costs. Brompton also comes with an engine in the front wheel and a bag for the battery.
When I see these kinds of videos I really appreciate that the trains and stations here where I live is made for bikes. Is such a breeze compared to this. Great video :)
Another cracking, useful and informative video. Learnt so much here, like how older folk are never going to be able to use a folding bike around public transport systems, it has to be a car boot only option, they are too heavy and unmanageable. However, you have a cracking bike there, it seems to tick so many boxes. Also, just how challenging riding a bike is outside of the city, we in the sticks really have to contend with awful potholed, muddy roads and drivers who hardly ever see a bike and don't know rules and good practice around cyclists. Hi-vis (and flashing lights) are a good idea, especially on these dark days. Hope that everyone can appreciate those of us away from the cities need cars to get about, the busses don't work here, there are no taxis or trains, and I live half an hour away from Ditchling, but it appears like I live in a desert somewhere. Keep cars going as well as bikes. Love your stuff, Eilis.
tip: just leave the steering wheel unfolded and you can push it in front of you like a trolly, super convenient when you have to walk with it for a bit
Great content! I am doing exactly that on part of the commute. As an owner of the e20 estarli, I can tell the ado stays in that folded better and seems manage to stay up right on the train. I think weight and neatness of the fold still got a long way for 20inch folding bike. It’s doable on the tube when it’s not too busy. But I wouldn’t say it’s near as portable as a Brompton if you use it as gold standard. 16 kg isn’t exactly light for taking up and down stairs. Look forwards seeing you comparing it to other 20inch foldie head to head.
I agree. The three fold system from Bompton is out of this world. But, having said that, the question is how often are you going to fold the bike? In my case, I live East of London. Zone 4. Sometimes I don't feel like cycling into town for 25Km (or 18miles ish). So I take the tube for two zones only. Leave in Stratford and do the rest with the eBike. (currently I have a Mycle 20''... but in the process to get this ADO 20'') It's a nice saving and allows me to enjoy the outdoors! Once I get in the companies office, I just plug the charger and later in the day, I have a full charge available to me again to go home. Usually a nice and enjoyable night ride!!
Paused to indulge my chuckle muscle...I was just thinking: "surely you can roll that?" when you discovered that yes you can roll that! 😂 Lovely real world test and great customer service. I just looked to see the price on your website and it was a pleasant surprise not that much dearer than my electric folder I bought at the beginning of lockdown...but with so much more kit. Belt drive, brilliant, last I saw that used to hike the price; colour display that does stuff I can't remember now and even an app, how cool is that?! The battery is supposed to have a decent range even though it's of the in-post variety which are sometimes smaller. The only thing I noticed was no suspension so I'm wondering if something like my over-sprung trike saddle would be able to be fitted on there...🤔 I couldn't afford another e-bike and I'm perfectly happy with mine but it's quite heavy so I'm always keeping an eye out just in case I win the lottery. I do that a lot, keeps me amused. Looking forward to your full review on this one Eilis, I'd like to know how well it copes (or how one's delicate derriere would cope) over rough terrain, i.e local roads. I'm keen to know how long the actual battery range is, does it compare to that of my bod which admittedly is only about twenty miles on a very good day? The gears and power assist set-up sounds much different to mine so could you think about how that sensor system would work for someone with almost no pedal power please? I'm disabled so my legs are very weak and my current e-bike works for me using just the weight of my legs to rotate the pedals. Then the motor powers according to which gear I choose combined with the power level I select if that makes sense. There are seven gears and five power levels so I can get a good ratio for even the steepest of hills. I see there's only one gear but three power levels on the ADO so I'm wondering would my way of riding work with the pedal sensors on this or does it require more power input from the rider to move or increase speed? Also I'm interested in hearing all about the app and the controller, if you could translate what you know into old persons speak that would be really great as I can just about use some tech but don't speak the lingo! Thanks Eilis, another good one .👍👏
Excellent demonstration review. It's so important to be able to bring electric bikes on public transport. Maybe public transport organisations will provide specific space for bikes/scooters so as not to interfere with walking passengers? SkipRay, Kerry, Ireland.
Great clip, I love this sincerity of your own product! I get a mood, like I would like use this bike immediately. I will find you as a reseller I think! Have fun guys and keep doing it. Greetings from Hungary!
Thanks for showing the functionality around different transport modes. One question, can you show a video on how it charges! There are no videos on it!
I just bought the pro version, has a lot of improvements like aluminum fenders, rear rack, rear light and signal lights, front suspension and automatic gears! Haven't got it yet.
I'm looking for an e-folder around £1500, and this is a really interesting bike, but I just can't get past the lack of gears for my particular usage, which does involve some rides up rural hills and along some deeply rutted tracks. Could I ask for your opinion on the best bike for mixed town and rural riding (with hills), from the estarli e20, the forme buxton pro, and the ADO folder (not this air model)? It might make a really good head to head comparison video, covering things like transportability on trains/buses (including lugging it over the footbridges to change platform), max loads, component quality (e.g. I've bought three sub-£1000 ebikes, and none have lasted more than 18 months before having a major failiure, whereas my e-brompton has outlasted them all). This is very superficial I know, but one of my issues is the looks of the bike. I had a Fiido X (until it was recalled) and I looked like I was riding on a clown bike. So the overall length and size of the frame is an issue for some people, and you can go off a bike if you feel that you look a bit silly on it. I realise that a slightly longer frame clashes with the idea of a compact fold, but as long as its compact enough to carry onto on a train without being challenged, that might be good enough? Apologies as this is extremely cheeky, but just a thought- maybe you could introduce some standard criteria into all the folder reviews? You do some of these anyway, but for completeness, maybe actually give them a numerical score? E.g. ride comfort (on both urban roads and maybe some rougher tracks/towpaths), hill performance and motor power, range at full power, max rider weight/load, folded size, carryability over a railway station footbridge(some dont have convenient places to hold them when carrying, or they are unbalanced). You could even put put this data into your sales website as well as discussing it on the reviews? It would be good to know how the different models stack up against each other using the various criteria, because that is what helps to make the right purchasing decision. It all sounds a bit Top Gear, with scores for different attributes, but it might make it much easier for a buyer to choose. Anyway, apologies for the long question, but using my main criteria of hill usage, frame size, ride comfort, and component/build quality, I would be very grateful to know your pick from the three models above. You do also sell the MATE, but I'm not a fan of the chunky frame/looks.
Hi I'm in a similar position to you and would be very interested to find out which one you purchased in the end? I had a look at the Fiido X seeing as you mentioned it and really like the look of it plus it has gears. Judging by your comments I thought it would have had 16" wheels or something re your clown comments.
Hi Patrick- I eventually bought the Forme Buxton Pro E (the electro heads excellent video alerted me to the bike). A week later Forme went bust, so there are now some warranty/parts replacement concerns. It's a shame, because, its a great bike. Its bit too heavy for long carries through train stations, but it folds up small enough to go indoors easily. It has a quality motor, built in mudguards and rear rack, hydraulic brakes, a really tight-closing frame (some frames feel flimsy when riding), and I like the height adjustable handlebars. The rear wheel spokes kind of fell apart after a month, but I had it rebuilt by a good pro using extra strong sapim ebike spokes (the seller paid for the labour), and its been tight as a drum ever since. I didnt like the look of the Fiido X personally, so I was glad when they recalled it due to a frame fault. I dont think there's a single perfect bike out there for all these roles. I use an electric brompton when I go on longer train journeys, but for riding the rougher rural roads the tiny bullet hard wheels are uncomfortable, so I also have the Buxton Pro E for rural/towpath riding. For that role the wheels have to be 20 inch minimum, with 2 inch wide tyres. There seems to be so much choice out there now, its insane. But personally I would avoid seatpost batteries, as they will be expensive to replace (compared to more standard types). I also avoid anything that can't mount a good strong rack, and if possible a suspension seatpost for the rough tracks. Tbh the list of things I prefer goes on forever!
@@theamateurboater5892 Hey thanks for your comprehensive feedback and advice. You're right so much to choose from. It's hard to choose just from pictures I think I will have to go and try some out. I rented the Brompton for a couple of days and was very impressed by its folding size I don't think this can be beat But I think I would really need 20in wheels to be honest. Decisions decisions! Cheers.
@@howardlam6181 , on my first one the rear hub motor failed. I could hear whirring noises, but there was no power. In that case I think a complete new rear wheel with a hub motor might have worked, but I couldnt be sure. On the second bike (the Fiido) it was a frame clamp fault, and they recalled it, but I lost out on the exchange for a replacement bike. The third one that failed was a Byocycle boxer XL. It had nice 24 inch wheels and the bigger frame was more comfortable to ride, but the power was weak, it was really really heavy, and the components felt really cheap and nasty. The byocyle failing was probably my fault. I left it out without a cover over a week of very rainy nights in Autumn, and the electrics just stopped working- so I got various error messages.
I live in Southern California The buses have fold down bike racks on the front of the bus and the local train system there are spaces for bicycles provided The only thing with the buses you have a minimum size wheel of 20 inches
Hmmm...interesting overview, and i aopreciate this is not a full review, but would have been nice to see how jt manages hills, especially as you were right next to Ditchling Beacon. If it can get up.and over that that i would be very interested
I'm waiting for people to actually get these delivered to them because one of the first people to get it said it is 2kg heavier than advertised. It would have been useful if this channel had actually weighed it, but the video is the typical ad pretending to be a review that I always see on this channel. So I will have to wait for a real review channel for the info I want.
@@cooliipie Just as I thought, the complaints about the weight are coming in now from buyers. Ado lied about the weight and so did this channel. It doesn't weigh 16kg. It actually weighs nearly 19kg, so nearly 3kg more than Ado claimed. This channel is a disgrace for not telling the truth about that.
i have this bike it's great the seat already has a rip in it and the paint few chips, but overall thats my only complaint ill replace the seat once it is really bad
Great video, I am interested in ADO AIR, there have been a lot of new bikes out lately and I noticed a new model with very similar features - the PVY Libon, it also has a carbon belt drive and a torque sensor, but the PVY Libon has two built-in batteries and a front suspension fork. Will you review it?
Any chance you could review some of the accessories you sell? Eg the helmets and those glasses with mirrors? I can’t find reviews on them but they seem very appealing!!
A series where you hand deliver to customers? Sounds great for Home Counties/Greater London. Maybe not for me here in Bristol though. Still, you might get enough views that TH-cam/Adsense or whatever will pay enough to make it worthwhile!
@@fredbloggs5902 i have and yeah it was kinda bad but if the bus was built for bikes then i don't think this would be that bad. obviously putting normal bikes in normal bus wouldn't work that well.
Go back to the 1960s or further with trains, there used to be a thing called brake coaches, box wagons or brake vans that could take on cargo like bicycles. Or if we're being real - that how people with wheelchairs used to travel.
They don’t accept electric bikes on busses and trains in a few areas. Of course this cool wee bikes it’s had to tell. Curiously when trains had guards vans I took a motorcycle, with petrol in the tank!
I an having a difficult time determining the seat to ground height of the ADO air 20 when it is in its lowest possible position. My wife needs it to be at no more than 175 cm due to her height. Can you check and confirm that when it is at that height the battery post is not too close to the ground. Thankyou
Honestly. I'd want it to fold smaller and be easier to move while folded if I was taking it on the tube. Brompton would be far better suited. Goes small enough that you can chuck it in overhead racks on trains.
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
Does the display on ebikes have a display for range? i.e. calculating distance based on recent usage; or I suppose constant use @ the various power levels available.
I guess it's not much different than a larger suitcase, but the modes of transportation were all basically empty. Doing this in a crowded vehicle or when trying to carry it in a moving crowd would be a pretty different story. Still, I support combining public transportation with biking. What would be great is to have an area dedicated to storing the bike on/in the vehicle.
you can just leave the steering handle of the bike unfolded and use it like a trolly by pushing it in front of you, very convenient if you have to walk with it for a bit
@@Pine_Peaks Because of the fire risk. Apparently several have caught fire while on bus / tube network and I don’t know if you’ve seen the TH-cam vids of lithium-ion battery fires but they ain’t no joke.
@@jasonrouse6912 Yep. This is why I would never charge something the size of an e-bike li-ion battery in my house. Even if the battery somehow doesn't burn the house down, the huge amount of thick toxic smoke they give off would at the very least ruin everything in the room.
@@davidf2281 there's been a few house fires because of them. Though the Bosch ones are probably the best for safety you probably wouldn't want to charge one in your house? It just takes one faulty cell and that's all it needs to start it's rage of fire. Or the charger could have a fault and not cut off at the end of the charge cycle. Though I do trust Bosch I probably wouldn't trust charging it in doors. I run a Tern GSD with two 500wh batteries. They're charged in a garage away from any houses just for safety. The bike I bring indoors just because if there is a fire the bike is still safe. They don't come cheap and just one battery is like £600. (Because it's Bosch)
Nice looking bike, 16kg doesn't sound that light considering my full size gravel bike with mahle x35+ drive is only 14kg. I'd expect a folder to be lighter. Cool that it wheels along though and belt drive is low maintenance 😄
@@bitsandblocks7826 Well, it's electric, so there's a motor, a battery and a sturdier frame. All that adds up, you can't really compare it with non electric folding bikes
I'll buy a helmet if you'll deliver it to my door. I'm only 120 miles south of Kansas City, 40 miles into Missouri from the Kansas line. You'll enjoy the scenery down here where we grow mostly corn, soy beans, and lots of thick, juicy steaks.
I used my folding bike a lot and found out, they are completely useless if not waterproof. I used hitway, had two of em, the bk2 and the smaller one, cant remember the model name. They damage as soon as water touches it. Which begs the question...does it not rain im china?
Honestly, UK law is broken. It's technically legal for Ellis is stand on the left side of an escalator, but technically illegal to ride your own E-scooter 🙄 Ellis deserves 6 points on her drivers license for standing on the left side of an escalator 😤
You want to ride a zero emissions vehicle, which is lightweight, easy to use and cheap? Get in your car you prick and guzzle as much petrol as possible!! God the Govt. is taking it's time with PLEV's...
The Brompton does cost three times the price, have a front-mounted motor, and a gigantic battery pouch hanging off the front handle bars which effects handling though. But to each their own!
For a bike with such a low form geometry, I'm wondering what the stability is like? The Tenways 800 have similar technical specs on paper but I would expect this to be less stable and a bumpier ride. How would you compare them?
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That was such a phenominal idea for a test! And no one can complain with that level of customer service - haha!
I thoroughly recommend taking ebikes on trains for extra range, and you can also charge them from wall sockets provided.
Just don't forget to lock the bike to something, otherwise someone could just walk off with it at the next stop before yours!
Honestly, seems like such an awesome bike. Being able to take it along with you on public transport is unbelievably useful.
Looks so easy to take on the bus when there is no one else on it. That's a no brainer. I would love to see a video of someone bringing it onto a crowded bus.
I'd like to see a head-to-head comparison between the ADO Air 20 and the Morfuns Eole X. On paper, both are very similar 20" wheel folders. They have the same wattage hub motors. Both use large diameter seat "post" batteries. Both are close in overall weight. The Air 20 is slightly less expensive, slightly less weight, and uses a carbon belt, and 9.6 ah battery. The Eole X has a typical chain with 8-speed rear derailleur. It also has rudimentary rear suspension (and optional suspension fork), and optional 15ah battery.
This was brilliant. Solidify customer relations AND test out the newbie ebike...2 birds with 1 stone. Of course I'd like a home delivery from electroheads...to Trinidad. I think that's a bit off your route😂
Missed a trick not cycling up to Ditchling Beacon while you were there. Would be a great demo of the E-Bikes skills!! Great vid though!!
As an owner of a hyper folding Brompton, it is now down to 9,35 kilo, and still falling, when I get my last parts added to my bike. Yours are at most ½ a bike! In Denmark we are mostly allowed to bring also ordinary bikes in trains, for a fee, but a Brompton is free of any extra costs. Brompton also comes with an engine in the front wheel and a bag for the battery.
On the Brompton website it says their ebike weighs 15.6kg. So where did you get 9.35kg from?
Electric Brompton is nearly 3x the price of this.
There’s a whole world in cutting down the weight of Brompton - wheels, tyres etc
Great. The brompton ebike also costs 3k. Completely useless comment
That was pretty cool ❤ Obviously helps that it wasn't rushour 😁
When I see these kinds of videos I really appreciate that the trains and stations here where I live is made for bikes. Is such a breeze compared to this. Great video :)
Another cracking, useful and informative video. Learnt so much here, like how older folk are never going to be able to use a folding bike around public transport systems, it has to be a car boot only option, they are too heavy and unmanageable. However, you have a cracking bike there, it seems to tick so many boxes. Also, just how challenging riding a bike is outside of the city, we in the sticks really have to contend with awful potholed, muddy roads and drivers who hardly ever see a bike and don't know rules and good practice around cyclists. Hi-vis (and flashing lights) are a good idea, especially on these dark days. Hope that everyone can appreciate those of us away from the cities need cars to get about, the busses don't work here, there are no taxis or trains, and I live half an hour away from Ditchling, but it appears like I live in a desert somewhere. Keep cars going as well as bikes. Love your stuff, Eilis.
tip: just leave the steering wheel unfolded and you can push it in front of you like a trolly, super convenient when you have to walk with it for a bit
camera guy not telling you it rolls when folded ... Brilliant 😊
Great content! I am doing exactly that on part of the commute. As an owner of the e20 estarli, I can tell the ado stays in that folded better and seems manage to stay up right on the train.
I think weight and neatness of the fold still got a long way for 20inch folding bike. It’s doable on the tube when it’s not too busy.
But I wouldn’t say it’s near as portable as a Brompton if you use it as gold standard.
16 kg isn’t exactly light for taking up and down stairs.
Look forwards seeing you comparing it to other 20inch foldie head to head.
I agree. The three fold system from Bompton is out of this world.
But, having said that, the question is how often are you going to fold the bike?
In my case, I live East of London. Zone 4.
Sometimes I don't feel like cycling into town for 25Km (or 18miles ish).
So I take the tube for two zones only.
Leave in Stratford and do the rest with the eBike.
(currently I have a Mycle 20''... but in the process to get this ADO 20'')
It's a nice saving and allows me to enjoy the outdoors!
Once I get in the companies office, I just plug the charger and later in the day, I have a full charge available to me again to go home.
Usually a nice and enjoyable night ride!!
I'm hoping the review is as good as I'm hoping this bike will be. Looks like the bike for me!
I know Hassocks/Ditchling well. Really cool seeing you ride through there. I'd love a personal delivery. I'm not a million miles away from Hassocks 😌
Paused to indulge my chuckle muscle...I was just thinking: "surely you can roll that?" when you discovered that yes you can roll that! 😂
Lovely real world test and great customer service. I just looked to see the price on your website and it was a pleasant surprise not that much dearer than my electric folder I bought at the beginning of lockdown...but with so much more kit. Belt drive, brilliant, last I saw that used to hike the price; colour display that does stuff I can't remember now and even an app, how cool is that?!
The battery is supposed to have a decent range even though it's of the in-post variety which are sometimes smaller. The only thing I noticed was no suspension so I'm wondering if something like my over-sprung trike saddle would be able to be fitted on there...🤔
I couldn't afford another e-bike and I'm perfectly happy with mine but it's quite heavy so I'm always keeping an eye out just in case I win the lottery. I do that a lot, keeps me amused.
Looking forward to your full review on this one Eilis, I'd like to know how well it copes (or how one's delicate derriere would cope) over rough terrain, i.e local roads.
I'm keen to know how long the actual battery range is, does it compare to that of my bod which admittedly is only about twenty miles on a very good day?
The gears and power assist set-up sounds much different to mine so could you think about how that sensor system would work for someone with almost no pedal power please?
I'm disabled so my legs are very weak and my current e-bike works for me using just the weight of my legs to rotate the pedals. Then the motor powers according to which gear I choose combined with the power level I select if that makes sense. There are seven gears and five power levels so I can get a good ratio for even the steepest of hills.
I see there's only one gear but three power levels on the ADO so I'm wondering would my way of riding work with the pedal sensors on this or does it require more power input from the rider to move or increase speed?
Also I'm interested in hearing all about the app and the controller, if you could translate what you know into old persons speak that would be really great as I can just about use some tech but don't speak the lingo!
Thanks Eilis, another good one .👍👏
Excellent demonstration review. It's so important to be able to bring electric bikes on public transport. Maybe public transport organisations will provide specific space for bikes/scooters so as not to interfere with walking passengers? SkipRay, Kerry, Ireland.
Most fun/entertaining ebike reviewer on TH-cam ❤
3:25 game changer! are kidding me? Woah
this is so good, i was looking for a video just like this years ago before i bought a ebike
Great clip, I love this sincerity of your own product! I get a mood, like I would like use this bike immediately. I will find you as a reseller I think! Have fun guys and keep doing it. Greetings from Hungary!
Best looking ebike so far
⚡ *Only 16 kilos* 😲⚡
We need more ebikes under 20kg.
belt drive 👌🏼👌🏼
Agree. Belt drive would be slick.
take a look at the Morfuns Eole X as well.
Belt drive, torque sensor and mid-drive for that "little" seems pretty uncommon.
Is it 16kg? I saw someone who got one say it was 18kg. I'm waiting for a real review channel to find out the true weight of this ebike.
Yep, buyers are now saying it weighs nearly 19kg. Ado and this channel lied about the weight. Shame on Eilis and this channel.
Thanks for showing the functionality around different transport modes. One question, can you show a video on how it charges! There are no videos on it!
I just bought the pro version, has a lot of improvements like aluminum fenders, rear rack, rear light and signal lights, front suspension and automatic gears! Haven't got it yet.
Have you got it yet, and if so how is it ?
I have heard it's quite a bit heavier at about 22kg, but the other improvements seem very good
@@ChubbyChecker182 the newer pro version is 18kg
I'm looking for an e-folder around £1500, and this is a really interesting bike, but I just can't get past the lack of gears for my particular usage, which does involve some rides up rural hills and along some deeply rutted tracks.
Could I ask for your opinion on the best bike for mixed town and rural riding (with hills), from the estarli e20, the forme buxton pro, and the ADO folder (not this air model)?
It might make a really good head to head comparison video, covering things like transportability on trains/buses (including lugging it over the footbridges to change platform), max loads, component quality (e.g. I've bought three sub-£1000 ebikes, and none have lasted more than 18 months before having a major failiure, whereas my e-brompton has outlasted them all).
This is very superficial I know, but one of my issues is the looks of the bike. I had a Fiido X (until it was recalled) and I looked like I was riding on a clown bike. So the overall length and size of the frame is an issue for some people, and you can go off a bike if you feel that you look a bit silly on it. I realise that a slightly longer frame clashes with the idea of a compact fold, but as long as its compact enough to carry onto on a train without being challenged, that might be good enough?
Apologies as this is extremely cheeky, but just a thought- maybe you could introduce some standard criteria into all the folder reviews? You do some of these anyway, but for completeness, maybe actually give them a numerical score?
E.g. ride comfort (on both urban roads and maybe some rougher tracks/towpaths), hill performance and motor power, range at full power, max rider weight/load, folded size, carryability over a railway station footbridge(some dont have convenient places to hold them when carrying, or they are unbalanced). You could even put put this data into your sales website as well as discussing it on the reviews?
It would be good to know how the different models stack up against each other using the various criteria, because that is what helps to make the right purchasing decision. It all sounds a bit Top Gear, with scores for different attributes, but it might make it much easier for a buyer to choose.
Anyway, apologies for the long question, but using my main criteria of hill usage, frame size, ride comfort, and component/build quality, I would be very grateful to know your pick from the three models above.
You do also sell the MATE, but I'm not a fan of the chunky frame/looks.
Hi I'm in a similar position to you and would be very interested to find out which one you purchased in the end? I had a look at the Fiido X seeing as you mentioned it and really like the look of it plus it has gears. Judging by your comments I thought it would have had 16" wheels or something re your clown comments.
Hi Patrick- I eventually bought the Forme Buxton Pro E (the electro heads excellent video alerted me to the bike).
A week later Forme went bust, so there are now some warranty/parts replacement concerns.
It's a shame, because, its a great bike. Its bit too heavy for long carries through train stations, but it folds up small enough to go indoors easily. It has a quality motor, built in mudguards and rear rack, hydraulic brakes, a really tight-closing frame (some frames feel flimsy when riding), and I like the height adjustable handlebars.
The rear wheel spokes kind of fell apart after a month, but I had it rebuilt by a good pro using extra strong sapim ebike spokes (the seller paid for the labour), and its been tight as a drum ever since.
I didnt like the look of the Fiido X personally, so I was glad when they recalled it due to a frame fault.
I dont think there's a single perfect bike out there for all these roles. I use an electric brompton when I go on longer train journeys, but for riding the rougher rural roads the tiny bullet hard wheels are uncomfortable, so I also have the Buxton Pro E for rural/towpath riding. For that role the wheels have to be 20 inch minimum, with 2 inch wide tyres.
There seems to be so much choice out there now, its insane. But personally I would avoid seatpost batteries, as they will be expensive to replace (compared to more standard types).
I also avoid anything that can't mount a good strong rack, and if possible a suspension seatpost for the rough tracks.
Tbh the list of things I prefer goes on forever!
@@theamateurboater5892 Hey thanks for your comprehensive feedback and advice. You're right so much to choose from. It's hard to choose just from pictures I think I will have to go and try some out. I rented the Brompton for a couple of days and was very impressed by its folding size I don't think this can be beat But I think I would really need 20in wheels to be honest. Decisions decisions! Cheers.
how did they fail? the motor?
@@howardlam6181 , on my first one the rear hub motor failed. I could hear whirring noises, but there was no power. In that case I think a complete new rear wheel with a hub motor might have worked, but I couldnt be sure.
On the second bike (the Fiido) it was a frame clamp fault, and they recalled it, but I lost out on the exchange for a replacement bike.
The third one that failed was a Byocycle boxer XL. It had nice 24 inch wheels and the bigger frame was more comfortable to ride, but the power was weak, it was really really heavy, and the components felt really cheap and nasty.
The byocyle failing was probably my fault. I left it out without a cover over a week of very rainy nights in Autumn, and the electrics just stopped working- so I got various error messages.
Great video! would it be possible to get a full review of the ADO Air and how it compared to some of the others in the collection?
I bought one of these off Indiegogo. Looking forward to taking it for a spin.
How much did you pay ?
@@tahirahmed33 about £950 w/ early discounts. Got the one with Suspension forks also
I live in Southern California
The buses have fold down bike racks on the front of the bus and the local train system there are spaces for bicycles provided
The only thing with the buses you have a minimum size wheel of 20 inches
But only two bikes can use the rack... I seen bikers being rejected from getting on the bus....
For the so-called multi-modality, especially in London, I'm planning Blizwheel E-Scooter from Californian start-up.
Hmmm...interesting overview, and i aopreciate this is not a full review, but would have been nice to see how jt manages hills, especially as you were right next to Ditchling Beacon.
If it can get up.and over that that i would be very interested
Will you be bringing the Ado Air in the Electroheads store to buy from :)?
Thanks for sharing the video
I live in Michigan, U.S.A.. If you ever test an electric boat I'd love to have a helmet delivered by Eilis.
Looks like my Fiido D11 😅
It's 2 kg lighter but I'd still keep my Fiido. 👍
I'm waiting for people to actually get these delivered to them because one of the first people to get it said it is 2kg heavier than advertised.
It would have been useful if this channel had actually weighed it, but the video is the typical ad pretending to be a review that I always see on this channel. So I will have to wait for a real review channel for the info I want.
I was about to buy the D11.. now waiting on this if it ships to Taiwan
@@cooliipie Just as I thought, the complaints about the weight are coming in now from buyers. Ado lied about the weight and so did this channel. It doesn't weigh 16kg. It actually weighs nearly 19kg, so nearly 3kg more than Ado claimed. This channel is a disgrace for not telling the truth about that.
@@cooliipie d11 is old,, get the FIIDO x
🎉 Amazing vid!
Thanks! 😁
i have this bike it's great the seat already has a rip in it and the paint few chips, but overall thats my only complaint ill replace the seat once it is really bad
Hey, great video & great bike. My choice, thanks to that video!
I need a "pocket. E bike" ;)
Heading in the right direction.
I do beg why, why do these ebikes rarely come with mudguards or carriers and hooks?
Non essential item that adds to productions cost
if you attached a carabiner to your backpack strap you could hook it onto the bike to take a bit of the bike weight off of your arms
Great video, I am interested in ADO AIR, there have been a lot of new bikes out lately and I noticed a new model with very similar features - the PVY Libon, it also has a carbon belt drive and a torque sensor, but the PVY Libon has two built-in batteries and a front suspension fork. Will you review it?
Nice vid. I’ve got one of these on order from Indiegogo so interested to see what you think about it!
@Electroheads Do a review of the Decathlon Tilt Series 100 and 120.
What is the price of the bike?
Can you hand deliver to Texas? 😊
So I live in Miami Beach Florida. I will order a helmet right now if you promise to hand deliver it. 😀
Any chance you could review some of the accessories you sell? Eg the helmets and those glasses with mirrors? I can’t find reviews on them but they seem very appealing!!
It's on my list of things to do for sure! ☺
Cool! Do you know of any specially designed fold-able ebikes for sailing/power yachts?
If you want to try delivery with folding e-bike on Eurostar, german ICE train and Swedish night and local train I'm ready to order 😂
A series where you hand deliver to customers? Sounds great for Home Counties/Greater London. Maybe not for me here in Bristol though.
Still, you might get enough views that TH-cam/Adsense or whatever will pay enough to make it worthwhile!
Nice one 👍
You know what would be cool? a bus that is made to fit like 20 normal bikes inside so you wouldn't have to use a folding bike to do this.
You’ve obviously never tried to get on a bus in the rush hour 😂
@@fredbloggs5902 i have and yeah it was kinda bad but if the bus was built for bikes then i don't think this would be that bad. obviously putting normal bikes in normal bus wouldn't work that well.
Go back to the 1960s or further with trains, there used to be a thing called brake coaches, box wagons or brake vans that could take on cargo like bicycles.
Or if we're being real - that how people with wheelchairs used to travel.
I think a bus full of bikes would be better off with 20 cyclists on the road
Or maybe a bus that's only made for standing that can bring in loads.
They don’t accept electric bikes on busses and trains in a few areas.
Of course this cool wee bikes it’s had to tell.
Curiously when trains had guards vans I took a motorcycle, with petrol in the tank!
Great review again. Could you check out/review the Kuma M1. Belt drive bike based in Dublin.
I an having a difficult time determining the seat to ground height of the ADO air 20 when it is in its lowest possible position. My wife needs it to be at no more than 175 cm due to her height. Can you check and confirm that when it is at that height the battery post is not too close to the ground. Thankyou
Isnt theree magbets on the wheels holding them together when fokded ?
Looks like there is, but good to know for sure.
Depends on the terrain where you live with these belt drive no gear e bikes. Would be absolutely useless in hilly West Yorkshire where I am.
Honestly. I'd want it to fold smaller and be easier to move while folded if I was taking it on the tube. Brompton would be far better suited. Goes small enough that you can chuck it in overhead racks on trains.
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Looks bloody heavy and a hassle esp if the train and bus are crowded
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
That thing has 2 wheels yet I gotta carry it on my lap? Why couldnt they figure out a way to pull it on the wheel after folding?
Can you deliver to the States?
Does the display on ebikes have a display for range?
i.e. calculating distance based on recent usage; or I suppose constant use @ the various power levels available.
Like to see this available in the USA.
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I guess it's not much different than a larger suitcase, but the modes of transportation were all basically empty. Doing this in a crowded vehicle or when trying to carry it in a moving crowd would be a pretty different story. Still, I support combining public transportation with biking. What would be great is to have an area dedicated to storing the bike on/in the vehicle.
you can just leave the steering handle of the bike unfolded and use it like a trolly by pushing it in front of you, very convenient if you have to walk with it for a bit
Now that TFL have seen this video they'll know it's a electric bike. Thanks for informing them. E-bikes aren't allowed on buses.
Why on earth do TFL block electric bikes/scooters in the first place?? Ridiculous!
@@Pine_Peaks Because of the fire risk. Apparently several have caught fire while on bus / tube network and I don’t know if you’ve seen the TH-cam vids of lithium-ion battery fires but they ain’t no joke.
They burn like they want to burn everything. Even charging them they say place the battery on a steel plate or top.
@@jasonrouse6912 Yep. This is why I would never charge something the size of an e-bike li-ion battery in my house. Even if the battery somehow doesn't burn the house down, the huge amount of thick toxic smoke they give off would at the very least ruin everything in the room.
@@davidf2281 there's been a few house fires because of them. Though the Bosch ones are probably the best for safety you probably wouldn't want to charge one in your house? It just takes one faulty cell and that's all it needs to start it's rage of fire. Or the charger could have a fault and not cut off at the end of the charge cycle. Though I do trust Bosch I probably wouldn't trust charging it in doors. I run a Tern GSD with two 500wh batteries. They're charged in a garage away from any houses just for safety. The bike I bring indoors just because if there is a fire the bike is still safe. They don't come cheap and just one battery is like £600. (Because it's Bosch)
Does tube allow electric bikes?
I like Eilis!
What would be the actual range 🤔
Nice looking bike, 16kg doesn't sound that light considering my full size gravel bike with mahle x35+ drive is only 14kg. I'd expect a folder to be lighter. Cool that it wheels along though and belt drive is low maintenance 😄
It's not 16kg. Ado, with help from this channel, lied about the weight. It actually weighs nearly 19kg.
@@dtz1000 Ouch! No wonder it needs to push a long like a trolley
@@dtz1000 The Brompton Electric C line is 17,4 kg. Granted the Electric P Line is 15.6 kg but it's even more expensive.
@@bitsandblocks7826 Well, it's electric, so there's a motor, a battery and a sturdier frame. All that adds up, you can't really compare it with non electric folding bikes
@@gunnmlo99 thanks I was comparing it to a full size electric gravel bike 🙂but i take your point on the sturdier frame to allow fold-ability.
Can you deliver here in the Philippines? :D
I'll buy a helmet if you'll deliver it to my door. I'm only 120 miles south of Kansas City, 40 miles into Missouri from the Kansas line. You'll enjoy the scenery down here where we grow mostly corn, soy beans, and lots of thick, juicy steaks.
living in sussex i know dicling and loved this
Is that a 52t chainring??? Ok not a cog... So what is the gear ratio???
Is it possible to add throttle to the 250w version?
Did u get it from indiogogo
This video makes me truly appreicated my American single family home and 2-car garage.
I genuinely cannot tell whether this is sarcasm or not lol 😂
Pump it! 😀
I used my folding bike a lot and found out, they are completely useless if not waterproof. I used hitway, had two of em, the bk2 and the smaller one, cant remember the model name. They damage as soon as water touches it. Which begs the question...does it not rain im china?
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Honestly, UK law is broken. It's technically legal for Ellis is stand on the left side of an escalator, but technically illegal to ride your own E-scooter 🙄
Ellis deserves 6 points on her drivers license for standing on the left side of an escalator 😤
You want to ride a zero emissions vehicle, which is lightweight, easy to use and cheap? Get in your car you prick and guzzle as much petrol as possible!! God the Govt. is taking it's time with PLEV's...
I really did a cardinal sin on that escalator 😂
@@Electroheads did you hold anyone up?
Hey! I'm 6ft 3, will this bike look like a clown riding a tiny bike? did I hear you guy on another video saying we can come and test bikes
prety girl!
Please don't try delivering to me in Dartford, the moment you take a hand off the bike to ring my doorbell someone will have the bike away.
Excellent idea for test
... This woman is unbelievably cute also
Do U deliver my electroheads helmet here in Portugal ?? 😊
She failed before she got out of the door. My BROMPTON doesn't need me to carry anything in a backpack, thank goodness.
The Brompton does cost three times the price, have a front-mounted motor, and a gigantic battery pouch hanging off the front handle bars which effects handling though. But to each their own!
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For a bike with such a low form geometry, I'm wondering what the stability is like? The Tenways 800 have similar technical specs on paper but I would expect this to be less stable and a bumpier ride. How would you compare them?
Having an ebike and still using the subway. Why?
Super video par add both ha BRO
Did you take a taxi to get back to HQ?😂
We should have! The perfect way to round it off
That bike needs a rear mudguard - or you are going to get filthy in the wet!
Love the content 👏👏👏
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Ebikes are illegal on the Tube.