Jordan Peterson: Angry Low Status men
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"Now I understand why some many people in the media think Peterson is a Nazi" Said no one ever after watching a Jordan B Peterson Clip.
Amazing isn't it! There is so much audio & video to discredit any attempt to misrepresented Peterson, yet so many people keep doing just that!
That happens when they see his videos on the gender wage gap. Apparently when someone doesn't agree with your believes, you are inmediately a nazi.
Oh, the answer to that is actually really simple. He insists on personal responsibility while they want to avoid it (and have others do so as well so that they don't feel jealousy while looking at the success of others) as much as possible. He counters their narrative so they want to discredit him. What has less credit in our society than a Nazi? Thus, they call him one.
Are we watching the same vid. He constantly advocates a greater german empire. Every sentence talks about eradication of ashkenazim and other jews under strong state leadership.
They are scared of him,he exposes their lies
I'm getting tons of different recommendations on TH-cam where Jordan Peterson explains "low status males". Should I be offended or something😅🙄
You should take it as an opportunity to sort your self out.
The algorithm shows you more of what you click on. Maybe you should question why you're so interested in content about low status males?
Lachlan Bell well I am interested in content from JBP in general. Especially his talks about male and female differences. Maybe that's the reason
Lachlan Bell Dont worry it seems like im falling down this rabbit hole with you as well, as a male this is quality content for me
eightypuff01 This is your chance to clean your room, bucko.
@3:17 I was ready to hear Peterson mimic a crying cat.
I bust out laughing. I read ur comment right before that time frame.
The cat goes "That's it for me man, I'm not going any father into the unknown."
Yes!
@@nope1083 I'd be very interested to get a See 'n' Say designed by Jordan Peterson.
Jordan's cat is so high IQ he talks. The cat is at the high end of the pet hierarchy. But the dog is a good dog.
This man is one of the last true intellectuals left in our world. He is a treasure.
Really? Admittedly I only watched a few of his videos by now but didn't hear anything particularly new or groundbreaking. Maybe you are not looking wide enough.
@@adrianaloborec2205 maybe you aren't looking wide enough into him? Thomas Sowell is another treasure.
@@adrianaloborec2205 watch some of his lectures. Not the mainstream hype. His book 12 rules for life is really good too.
@@Iburn247 perhaps, although after listening to a video summary of his book, I can with certainty say that it sounded like a rather bland rehearsal of many things I read (and occasionally taught) years ago. But it's very likely I have more years and learning behind me than most people here.
@@adrianaloborec2205 that may be. Im 30
I clean my room now
..but then i got high..
"Song"
What if one has always done it before Peterson hit the scene?
Wow. : (
My room is messy af lol
I clean my moms basement where I stay, now.
This dude is solid gold with his teachings.
Not always. It's so stupid sometimes that it's tragic really, but it's nice to see we're all highly flawed. 😄
My IQ is average.. I'm am aware of this, and accepting that I am not Einstien is my greatest strength. Knowing I am not too brilliant has caused me to seek out professional advice from those who are..I may be low status IQ, but I live up to the potential as best I can.
That's the exact right approach. Kudos to you for moving forward with that mindset. It takes humility. I'm sure there are high IQ individuals who do not live up to their potential as you are trying to do, thus their actual contribution to society is less than yours. Humility and doing what you ought > high IQ.
@@billybobthornton8122 I've learned over the years that success depends on more than IQ....IQ, work ethics, integrity, vision, education drive...humility ....
I went to school with a young fellow who was BRILLIANT! But this IQ was all he had. He never sought to develop himself professionally so he now works as an unskilled labourer. Sad.
@@toiletseatscholar78 I, too, have a friend who is extremely intelligent. He received a degree in physics, but has really only worked in technician jobs for most of his adult life. I suppose he just wants that kind of life for himself, which is fine, but I'm not quite sure he has reached his full potential.
So many times I've been humiliated by guys that didn't have the academically inclined brain I did. Wit in conversation, creativity in solving technical problems. Yeah IQ isn't everything but it's never bad. Definitelly don't be afraid to use your brain the way you think high IQ people do, ponder problems "above your pay grade", read complex articles and make short notes capturing the essence. It sharpens you up, and humbles you at the same time. There's always smarter or better people round the corner, so all we can do is be the best we can within our means.
I went to school with a guy who almost aced his SAT's. I think he missed 1 or maybe 2 questions but got a 1580/1600 as I recall. Last I heard he was a delivery driver for a Chinese restaurant. I think he got mixed up w/ drugs along the way or something.
"Low status men?"
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of people living together in society, they create a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." Frederic Bastiat.
YEA.. TRULY. YOU GOT IT. FUX THIS YUPPIE TWAT.
GREED IS GOOD...
@@markorendas1790 Tell yourself that when civilization collapses around you.
Exactly.
@Wai too Low that's awesome what you did for her self worth in my opinion just that action makes you high value
This guy is the only person that systematically blows my mind.
@Ben Grimm Listen to his podcasts.
This MAN has brought meaning back to my life.I decided to educate myself as a sign of thank and appreciation.
I think in the back of my head, I've been longing for this kind of meaningful, intelligent and powerful lectures..I rareley experienced this in high school and didn't continue to college..didn't had the opportunity...It's a shame we didn't have this type of learning in post comunism, at least not in my small town, 90's-00s era. I was always drawn to science, arts, and learning, enjoyed reading, literature and drawing. I've self educated my entire life and I can honestly say about 90 percent of my skillsare self learned. School was robotic and stupid, it desesitized my curiosity, critical thinking or learning things in a logical manner, really understanding, know what I mean? I wish someone would've taught me all these stuff in high school, I'm sure it'd ve been progress...Regardless of that, it's still a privilege to listen to this now, from the comfort of my home. So thanks a lot, very condensed, thought-provoking, useful information.
I love you, not gay but i agree with all you said for logical reasons, online learning is truly a gem for us.
Riight
School was never for learning just training good employee that just now enough to do there job without thinking anyone who knows anything learned on there on time.
I have also notice that those that cut school the most in high school were the one's that I had the deepest meaningful conversations those to busy sitting in class were robotic dull and shallow.
@@tourmalinestone3988 Your writing, syntax & grammar is atrocious.
@@deadair801 ………………….
Notice how his classroom is different, students seem to be paying attention, they're not on their phones.
Probably costs allot to get here
@Blackpilled Saint plus its disrespectful. edit: and I thought Peterson didn't care for his students taking notes during his lectures.
This clearly ain't the beginning of the lecture
I haven't been in a classroom in a long time but phones are allowed? If I was a teacher I would collect all their phones at the start of class if they were just going to be on them all the time
@@ianrobinson4200 yes. Depends on the teacher/prof. Some care Some don't. Though the general sentiment is that the students are responsible for themselves whether they want to pay attention or not. They fail because they weren't paying attention? Well that's unfortunate.
When low status men become enough in numbers and recognize that the economic system does not work for them, what will result from this situation? This is exactly what is happening so much in our present society. For example maybe the country can get into a war with another country and then they need manpower to fight the aggressive country. If enough low status men feel their country does not respect their capabilities they can resist induction into the army. They might go to prison for a time but with enough men acting out their resentment this can become a genuine concern for the country in peril. I have seen this myself growing up in the Vietnam war era. We might be seeing a lot more of this pushback in the years to come. I would not be surprised if this has already happened in the world.
Good
When has it not happened?
I wish I had heard this man speak when it still might have mattered in my life...I have no status and don't care about status. Nothing I do matters to anyone but me.
I hear you bro. Sometimes I feel my life is like getting a cool electronic device with no instruction manual and no guidance from anyone. You try to use it but because of your stupidity and ignorance you break it. A few hours after you broke it you find an instruction manual.
But that's a good place to be imo
Correct. People only have status when they are competing or comparing themselves to others.
If you're doing things that matter to you, then that's pretty good in this day and age brother.
If you're still alive it still matters.
Love, pain, shame, and understanding by reflection is what makes you smarter, wiser
Love? Why love? I think its uttlerly inddiference and acceptance.
You're absolutely right, though I would say that love may be an extreme term to use since it is complicated and requires reciprocity. Perhaps attraction, affection or even infatuation would be more suitable at a general level. But anyway, what you said resonated a lot with me because I'm a 22 yr old low status guy who just went on his first date and shit, I've gone through all 4 stages in the last 24 hrs. Its not been exactly pleasant but by christ does it allow me to see myself in a more accurate way.
christian spam bot I assume. How odd.
This is so true
Everything you need is inside you
As an engineer who works with sound and acoustics, it's strange to hear someone lecturing students about how if they noticed or think about the square acoustic panels on the wall that it would be weird. The acoustic panels make it possible to listen this guy's lecture without getting fatigued from the excessive echo of cinderblock walls. The example, however, points out there are things out there that make sense it we avoid being limited by a cynical approach.
I feel so fortunate to have a man that speaks like this and is as knowledgeable as he is.
I was low status: no money, took drugs, bummed off of friends and they bummed off me, bad relationship.
Now i earn big dollars, cleaned up our relationship, left home town with dead end friends, cut drug use back to minimal use, Playing sports and keeping my room very tidy.
Thanks mr Peterson. I owe it all too you.
Me too, got the f*ck out of town and cut contact with the b*llshit excuses I used to call friends, and my life immediately improved.
@@edusmart1064 So is it like... just leave?
@@varjasib993 you tend to keep friends you grew up with around even when they are no good for you or taking a bad path through life. They will try to pull you down to their level. You cant save everyone, you can save yourself though
@@varjasib993 Pretty much. It's just as Mint Jelly says, you can't save everyone but you can save yourself, and bad friends really will try and drag you down to their level. I was out drinking with my former friends one evening and it just hit me, and I started to ask where my life was going, and did these guys I was hanging around with bring true value to my life. I realised that I was just existing, not truly living life, just going through the motions. I put my beer down, said "see you later guys" and went home. Applied for some overseas jobs, got one, and when the visa arrived I hopped on the plane and never looked back. That was 7 years ago. I now have a wife, we have three properties, two vehicles and blossoming careers, none of which I would have if I had stayed where I was. I have heard through family that a couple of my former friends had been trash talking and critising me, yet from what I heard their lives are still the same as I had left them, no growth, still drinking in the same bar doing the same menial jobs, going from one meaningless relationship to another. In the end hating me because I wanted more out of life, and got more, rather than admit their errors and change their own lives they chose to vilify me. But that is fine, when I finally got rid of the trash I made room in my life for quality people and more fruitful experiences.
@@elrud5964 If you would be up to talk about it, than please hit me up on Facebook.
In *_comparison_* to some Hollywood celebs, businessmen-millionaires then even people in the middle class (mostly in huge debts) are _"low status"_ .
How can a 53 year old man look at those students with such envy, that they are there and how I wish it had of been me 30 years ago. All I can think of is” youth is wasted on the young”. Only problem is, there wouldn’t have been a Jordan Peterson there to teach me, I would need to be 100 years old as the last person to have his ability was Freud
J.P’s genius lies partly at least, to regain his ‘thread’ with the most impactive timing with fully tangential threads leading back to impact … a really accomplished communicator with a healthy sense of decency
I love his lectures. I am empathising with so much of what he talks about. Its like he is the world's consciousness
I was born too early. Wish there was youtube and seeing his lecture back in 1970s. I would have more motivation to work harder.
This is seriously brilliant.
Life's not fair. You do the best you can.
no truer words have ever been spoken.. as you get older and more observant you really see this play out. Thats why the depression rates are so high..lifes a bitch and then you die
You make life fair through acceptance and choice .
Yep - it's better to face the harsh truth of reality and try to make the best of it, instead of living in a wishful bubble.
In Islam the people with lower status have a huge chance of going to heaven and high status people like doctors and judges have a high chance of going to hell. Our prophet was once asked "who are the most evil amongst us? and he replied the ones who seek status!"
Our prophet used to pray daily to God "oh my God let me live as a low status person, die a low status person and then be judged like a low status person."
Yousef Humod Being a prophet is not low status. Not the Islamic Prophet, anyway. That is if you believe in deities and such.Status can be bestowed upon but its still an exaltation that often leads to misinterpretation and abuse.
Thank you sir/ma'am or group that makes these videos possible. So helpful and such a blessing
Timo Ba Ta Na he is one of my truth heros cant get enough if you like this you should check out his lectures on the Bible they are like being hit with mind blowing truth!
*ma'am*
Craig MacGillicutty I don't take picking names on computers seriously, on the account i hate finding names that arent taken. Figured I would remember this one tho, it's worked so far!
I’m an angry low status man and don’t know what to do about it, I bought his book so I should probably read it
It's a good start, which is infinitely better than no start.
Me too. How’s the progress going ?
@@sanjaymohammedthe3rd249
He died eaten by lobsters.
this guys lectures are truly an odyssey of the mind opposite of the more structured confined and focused content on youtube
waiting anxiously for a joker analysis from Mr Peterson
There is multiple ones where he mentions the type of individual the character of the joker is.
Naoexistemmaisnicks he’s not well right now
@@kmurray1214 What's going on with him? Just read the instagram post
Naoexistemmaisnicks he has a klonopin addiction situation going on... and his wife is sick. Real adult life shit, not theory
too easy. "Joker" is not exactly subtle. Not saying Pinocchio is subtle.... ok I guess I am... it does not beat you over the head with its moralities like Joker.
In a time in which truth is blacked in every area, in a time in which the real problems and victims are silenced, in a time in which the heads even the ones of the real victims are manipulated and stupified - speaking the truth is a genius or even revolutionary act.
This clip's title and it's content are not the same. You won't find much here to explain anger in low status males.
But you will find low status males in the comments complaining about titles
@@ericacannon5832 Claws out?
The whole clip WAS the explanation!!!!!!!!! WOW.
Ok, I thought I was the only one who realized that this title had nothing to do with the message but I’ve found many of his videos are clickbait
Ok, I thought I was the only one who realized that this title had nothing to do with the message but I’ve found many of his videos are clickbait
I think the worst thing society could do is find angry low status men amusing or look at them as evil and irredeemable. That reaction from society is certain to make matters worse for everyone.
Women certainly do. But then again, it's the perception of status that matters the most. Which is why someone who seems low status can be with a girl way out of their league,
Cat: "That's it for me man..."
here's the problem. objectively I'm not at all low status compared to my peers in the social environment i'm usually in. whether it's school or now work etc... But in my mind, i am extremely low status, comparing what my capabilities are able to perform at it's optimal level to my current level within the total dominance hierarchy of all human social environments. (simply put, knowing i can do so much more, I feel i'm low status due to the fact that I'm only doing so little.) And I feel frustrated due to the social structure in place preventing me from rising above towards the top at the speed I want to.
I relate to that. Driven people really move up in the world over time.
100% truth. Pay your dues. Remember how fortunate you are to be ABLE to move up at all.
Billions of people alive and dead never even had an opportunity to squander.
To hell with status, be true to yourself and try avoid doing anything that will haunt your conscience in later life. True freedom is not being influenced or defined by other peoples thoughts or judgements, only your own matter. Dont be anybody’s puppet and adhere to a sacrifice only if there is a balanced reward, as in a ‘deal’.
You're a closet rockstar
Do you know the many worlds theorem?
15:20 "I used to think my life was a tragedy. but now i realise, it's a comedy"
Everybody's life is a tragicomedy.
IKR. Why wouldnt you wanna watch the world burn?
joker trailer
What does he mean by “look at life like it’s comedy”?
It's a reference to Nietzsche.
Reminds me of Douglas Adams's Hitchikers'Guide stating human civilisation boiled down to each gender trying to impress the other.
Well, I am a low status male (unlovable). Thannks for the enlightenment, Jordan
I swear Dr. Peterson has my dream career. Author and world-renowned lecturer. Must be awesome.
Mr. Ras Lyon or helping people rise from despair and offer hope on a massive scale... ya must be.
Yes, but it took many years of study, introspection, and consistent critical thought. Also, he receives tremendous pushback from the globalist ideological Left trying to silence him. I'm sure he did not seek this type of life initially, but maybe he was thrust into it for a reason.
Ironically you posted this during an extremely tough time in his life.
Great teacher.
I keep on clicking on these and hearing some brief verbiage about whats in the title and 57 other seemingly unrelated items. Is it just me ?
Great upload, thanks for sharing. +1 sub!
I love how people r just there in the hallway like listening, i would totally stand there thru his whole class while im waiting for my other class
It’s ironic, you can always tell who feels called out by Peterson’s videos in the comment section.
7:57 Very wise words.
Continuing at 10:07.
I watched the clip and relized the door has closed somehow. At firtst, I thouhgt it was a test. Then I was affraid, then I relized the video is edited with cuts. Now I am happy again 😃
I live every day as if it were my last someday I'll be right.
I think the title of the lecture is a bit sensationalized. It is not about angry low status males at all. There are many good insights tho.
Comedy you say.. Nailed it..!
What kind of things do you actually cut out of his lectures? I would actually like to see the full story that he is trying to tell but I can't quite get everything due to the splicing in your videos. For example @ 12:54. Are you cutting out blank space or actual things that he is saying?
Does Jordan remind anyone else of Indiana Jones? I imagine right after this lecture he flew to Africa and fought that cat with the bottom tooth.
He didn't
He's a junkie
Its tough when you take a few rungs down on the career ladder. I had a great job, with good perks. Circumstances changed and my current job, while quite interesting where I have learnt quite a lot, is not so well paid. Got to do a lot of overtime to get any savings. I dont bother with women anymore, most are attention seeking and not to be trusted. I dont mind being viewed as low status, in fact its quite amusing and I have met a LOT of good decent people at the same level. Non of us live forever.
@@aluke5856 Not me either. That preoccupation to this word 'status' is breaking a lot of minds.
I love this
Take it all in and make a change people, and I'm saying this as a unemployed job seekers at the moment. Been working since I was 15, now I'm 26 but I'll be ok I'm ambitious and educated.
We have to understand that when we are talking about power and dominance, almost everyone will use money and wealth as a measure......if u use happiness as a measure, things change very quickly. These people at the top, I'm sure they are happy, but they are also living to work, they work their whole lives for 4 weeks holiday a year and pension.......don't measure your wealth buy the position your in at work and how much money you have, measure it with how free and happy you are.
Business doesn't reward happiness, it rewards Ur time for being there.....
Measuring by happiness and your freedom is very important for living a balanced life. Problem is, when we are talking about "power" and "dominance" in the classical sense, that is capital P Power and capital D Dominance, we are measuring things like amount of resources allocated to you (think President of United States), Prestige (or competence at a valued skill), Physical Prowess (at least for men), and how much money you have. Having these things don't guarantee that you'll be happy (I'm sure you can find many head of states or billionaires who are chronically stressed and not happy), and being happy doesn't give you Dominance and Prestige (I remember the day I graduated I was a happy little kid. Not alot of Dominance or Prestige though). It's important to measure by both because your Dominance and Prestige tends to determine your socioeconomic status, and in certain phases of your life it's worth sacrificing happiness in the short and mid term, to gain that socioeconomic status in the long term. The world can open up for you in new ways once you do.
This guy keeps going in circles. I am a 70 year old white male and have observed something crazy about women. This might explain this situation. Many women will set up a situation that is not sustainable. Usually someone: father, husband, boyfriend etc, will need to step in and fix her mess. If she cannot find a fixer she is in real trouble. An example is single moms need for free daycare. They have strolled down the path of having children they cannot support and carefore without public assistance.. It is like their compas is out of wack.
Tim Early Those Babyboomers tell only half trooth. This is the only youtube video from him carrying for the 80 percent of people.
Women don't have, in general, the ability to see things abstractly, or to plan. Unless they are forced to do it. And then it becomes "an emotional load" and they complain about that as well. They are basically one step above children, emotionally, their entire lives.
They can do it if they are taught to do it. But they aren't. They have the 100% pussy pass for the first 15 years of their adult lives which shields them from responsibility. So they never learn...and are not being taught this by older women.
As bad as it sounds, I would agree with you. Feelings are of course not just ignorable, but my experience with women would lead me to believe that they don't seem to have a clear view of what is happening around them, only a wish to experience certain emotions in response. This may sound patronising & generalising at best, but it honestly is my best attempt to understand what I've encountered and how often my jaw almost dropped open observing how widely off the mark woman can be.
Living in the moment while longing for something substantial is an unrealistic expectation.Romantic dogma .
Single moms who strolled down the path of..... those children have fathers. What about those fathers who cant even be bothered to be around for their offspring? Dont blame the one who stuck around to deal with the consequences for BOTH their actions.
So eye opening...
There’s so much overlap in his theory. It’s mostly redundant, and not very profound.
The answer to a dominance hierarchy based on status, is to be completely indifferent to it. Refusing to compete for status is a win/win. Younger men fall into the trap of chasing audial status. A man of experience, with even a modicum of common sense, knows that chasing status is pathologically foolish. Status is fools gold!
Everyone wants to be a high status person. But just from this lecture, think of the power that "weird" people who fall outside the norm, and aggressively express themselves have. They can shut down a whole room of normal people, and put everyone on the defensive.
Why is that, I'm curious about this
What a bullshit. They get shut down because they are weird and people will let them know. They get bullied. Mr Newton had no women in his life because they thought he is weird.
This actually reminds me of the story of when Darryl Davis met KKK grand high wizard. Jordan talks about the familiar territory in the form of ideals which makes sense. Because people tend to travel to new places whether your actively searching for them or not. Yet for the most part when you arrive you're very comfortable and not on edge. And hopefully I'm right in trying to understand what he is trying to say, but the reason you are alright is in general your surrounded by like minded people in this case they share your culture and general ideals so you know what offends them and what doesnt because generally what does or doesn't offend them is the same stuff that does or doesnt offend yourself. Therefore acting like your normal self is fine and you feel safe despite being in a totally different environment your not use to. Which leads me back to the story of the Klan wizard and Darryl Davis. Davis is very much use to motels and hotels because he is a traveling musician and the Klan leader goes all around the country to give speeches on his racist view of the world so he is also use to hotels and motels. Which is where this meeting took place. They debated and argued over which ideology was right then all of a sudden a quick random noise echoes through the room. Both are sure the other one made that noise. Darryl jumps up smacking the table ready to tackle the kkk leader, the leader is ready to sick his body guard on Davis. Confusion fills the room until they find out neither of them made the noise. The cooler full of ice holding the soda at the end of the room did. Then they all laughed. The cooler making this noise is common, I have went to many gatherings and parties that had that sound and it would be loud enough for people to hear yet at most they would just look at the direction of the sound but most just ignored it. The reason why these two reacted so strongly despite being in a familiar setting is they are across from a person who does not operate with the same ideals therefore you have no idea what they are capable of or what sets them off. Like the example he gave of the mentally ill person and how functioning members of society would actively keep their distance from people like that.
I understand everything he says. Every sentence of him is Information, there are not really unimportant things / bywords / spacefillers. So my question: if you study in his classes how easy is it for you to get all these things into your brain? How many hours you need for one lecturing day (5 hours?) to burn it into your mind?
LOL he got savage bout that phone ringing around 12:20
11:30 He straight up tells the students that their psychology degrees will be useless.
No he doesn't.
Not useless, he just says its not the ultimate goal.
Economically useless
No, he doesn't. He tells them that they are there for more reasons than only getting their degree. To get smarter, learn in different ways, to path the way for other goals in their lives later on.
@@Sam-xd9xt
Therefore debunking the idea that college is useless.
Why are his lectures addictive to me?
Is it because they make us understand things?
Is it?
I’ve never taken a legit IQ test, but I don’t like the idea of it. I feel like if I was in a depressed state, not able to focus, lost in thought or stressed, I can almost guarantee I’d score lower than if I was feeling, energetic and eager to score high and enthusiastic about taking the test. I feel a lot of people’s performance has to do with their current emotional state. I’d like to hear JP’s research on IQ tests.
Anger is a vice, and leads to death. Not a virtue, or, something to use in virtual reality, in uncontrolled ways. A virtue functioning against Anger is Patience, Compassion, Faith in God, Hope, and so on.
The Hypercycle: The Theory of Natural Self-Organization
"Nobel prize time for you" hahaha
what's so fascinating about jordan is that what he points out should actually be crystal clear given one is willing to not lie to him-/herself - however what the reaction to what he says impressively shows is that people will actually fight in order to maintain the lies they tell themselfs! and in part it's actually understandable because: if you would admit that you had to recalibrate your own compass it probably meant that you had to admit that you have to give up parts of your current identity - and boy will people become aggressive if they get challenged over that! (and i'm not counting myself out of that btw - but i try to work myself through that)
tnx for this its great,continue
I like this guy because he seems fairly level headed.
Nope, not a single peak or trough on that skull.
Once IQ is well above average doesn't matter that much to one's social status. Conformity, dominance, athleticism, strength and dexterity in particularly, height, size, weight, looks, diligence, skills etc matter more than iq does often when it comes to determining social status.
Geoffrey Harris Wit is actually a huge factor, which involves intelligence and quickness. It's being able to simplify a relevant thought and say it before the person's/group's attention wonders.
passion (direction) and confidence counts for a lot.
Height and looks are needed for that primal animal attraction (that head turning factor), money facilitates stability. Those other things wit, personality, intelligence are incidental.
Most important is relationships. If you are born in the right circles, you can be small and dumb as sh... and become president of the greatest nation on earth...
Shouldnt talk about Obama like that lmfao
This analysis of crime in society this sooo much more sophisticated than just assigning it to race or music culture
I love this channel.
Thanks internet Dad!..
I wish Peterson would do a TALK on the Luck Factor involved in Life...
I imagine it is something like being able to identify and execute upon good opportunities. The more developed you are, the better you become at both. The more opportunities you capitalize upon, the more that present themselves.
Vladislav Zhirnov yeah like when cancer presents itself or being maimed in a car accident.
@@tvojslauf Haha I get what you are trying to see but you really can't just think about the bad things that could happen if you wanna move up in the hierarchy. You have to be able to think that you will get there without problems or you will be forever be stunned by your negative thoughts and get stuck.
Edison Carter those aren’t random events
@@VladislavZhirnov it's more about being lucky you were and in what situation you were born into. Executing on good opportunities isn't luck, it's called preparation. Luck is the shit you were born into, the things that you cannot change. Tall enough to play basketball or short and having the talent to overcome being short to play basketball are two different things.
.....tanks!
15:26 This gave me a better understanding of the Joker movie.
Does anyone have a link to this single toothed tiger? I couldnt find anything
Smilodon
he must be exaggerating. Smilodon doesnt come close as he had normal teeth plus 2 big on the upper jaw.
The teeth marks of several felinoids have been found on the skulls of Australopithicus. I don't believe that I have ever heard of one with a single lower tooth in the jaw. Please understand that JP's expertise is in psychology not paleozoology.
"Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments. Then your peace would been like a river" Isaiah notes.
There is a saying, "When a predator comes after you, you do not need to be the fastest to escape, faster than the slowest is perfectly fine.".
Putting your head down, trying not to be noticed makes completly sense!
But not being noticed at all means that the people who you want to notice you won't either though. This is part of the reason why successful men get more success and attractive to women, They are prepared to risk failure and humiliation to achieve their goals.
NOPE... If I knew you were faster, I have a high chance of turning the group against you, 99% of the time next predator gets you. There's never enough predators
This video had nothing about angry low status men.
Sounds like your comment does though 😆
David Loughton 😂
@@bucketrance Wait, you guys are going to claim that angry low status men are liberals? Because you only need to look at which states voted for Trump to see which way angry low status men vote.
@J Lo Everyone in the middle does. Low status men consistently vote for less income re-distribution, even more so than high status men. Ask Bill Gates, Ted Turner and Warren Buffet which way they vote.
supercommie you missed it?
I am one of those people who act outside of the socially expected. I make known situations unfamiliar for people, which can make them uncomfortable. I do it because I'm bored and it's fun to screw around with people's carefully defined expectations of how a human should behave.
I think someone identified himself on the agreeability scale... :-)
Trolling for responses...
Nah not many people understand the depth to this point of view it’s a hard and disgusting way to feel but what else can you do you see the world differently from how others sees there’s and you know how they see there and yours and you understand the expectations of what it’s like to be in this body in the group of humans we call society with our laws n moral system working very complex like and some people may have a altered sense of reality by seeing through people you could call it and intellectual and to banane wane goodluck on your little journey through this thing we call life
Could be a devil’s advocate
It’s been so interesting to wake up and realize logical is the last thing any body is at all.
Why is the sound always out of sync on Utube? Such a fundamental...
And I don't see any settings... (PC settings are global, but utube video/sound varies)
How old is your computer and browser?
@@daniellange4772 It's an i3-4160 @3.1GHz and Win10 pro.. Firefox, up to date..
@@rolandjollivet38 interesting. Have you installed additional CODECs? I had sync issues years ago but DirectX has a tool called graphedit that showed me I had clock sync defaulting to the video renderer and not my audio output. But i havent used Windows 10, for all I know DirectX is probably obsolete. If not, then graphedit may be useful. Also I remember a codec tool free for download called GSpot that helped troubleshoot my codecs. GSpot filter manager as I recall. I found that an Nvidia 2 codec let me play hi-quality mpeg2 video streams back in the days of diretx 9.0c on a 1GHz machine with 98se or XP.
Agreed. And the fact that we walk among people that should be institutionalized is real...in addition, and contrary to that, it's amazing how much society can learn to trust an individual.
They only trust them if they don't look angry
although I aggree, low status while seeing the fruits of other people success of course makes anyone angry and builds a deep hatred and fury. No doubt about it. In which point I dont agree with Peterson, or maybe even more his male followers, is that you need success/social prestige to have women like you, have interest in you. For me, this point about success and getting women is presenten way to one-sided here.
of course, if you are successful, if you become somewhat wealthy, its way easier getting women, no doubt about it. But it almost sounds like, its near impossible to get a decent girlfriend if you are taxi driver, pizza baker. delivery man, everyday office joe and so on. And that is simply not true. People focus way too much on this materialistic aspect, and the women that will throw at you once you have success, should be handled with scepticism. Of course there are people with everday jobs that have girlfriends, and also decent girlfriends, and somtiems even really beautiful girlfriends.
Its more about if oyu are a good, responsible, likable, trustworthy person. I mean people fall in love, click and so on. On the other hand you have successful guys, who just arent good with women, maybe arent likable even, not charming etc. and still wont have much luck with women. You can have charming, good looking, funny guys who just know how to speak with women and seduce them., and dont have a good job, maybe not even a good life overall.
I agree. And then there's different ways of "getting" women. Some guys have a real knack for one night stands, but does that really count for anything?
I've had various boyfriends in my life, and none of them have been investment bankers. Some were even welfare bums in my younger years. I'd go for a trustworthy responsible taxi driver before some alpha male throwing money around any day.
Polite Q Well, this is the gap I always see with this type of thinking, and this is a reply to both comments above: the obvious question here is, if you're trustworthy, responsible, hardworking, charismatic, funny or otherwise have great traits and principles, WHY aren't you succesful?
It's almost like a self-defeating idea, how can you be so great if you can't provide anything of value to the community around you? There's a reason why these guys are ex-boyfriends, perhaps they were welfare bums but you saw potential in them. Potential that perhaps at some point you realized would never be put to good use, and you moved on.
Also, nobody said you can't get a girlfriend working in McDonalds. It's just that many guys who are low status(read:pretty useless) delude themselves into thinking that they'll get a smoking hot, intelligent, funny, sociable and feminine woman. Not unlike fat women with short blue hair who dream about charming 6'4 men who are "ambitious and know what they want to do with their lives".
Sometimes you might get lucky, be a bum and get an amazing girlfriend for an year or two, but it was never going to last.
\JBP says himself, humans AIM. Our values must LEAD somewhere. Or else what's the point?
Sure, it's a nice sentiment, but that's not the purpose of having values. The purpose is the result.
very true. to all the other guys talking about "results" and "rising to the top" and "being successfull" - there are only so many "succesfull places" in society. its all relative. not everyone can be a top-earner. if you are rattling on about making big money and success and that that is the only way to get good women i have to simply guess that you are a real-life "loser" type or at least not very good with women. just take a step outside and look at REALITY: mating, mens and womens decisions in their sex- and love-life is very random. and nearly EVERYONE has a good amount of CHANCE and POTENTIAL if he is a relatively stable person. you dont have to be rich or "succesfull" in the economical way. just have some passion about something, anything really. LIVE DAMMIT.
The problem today is that we base a man's value almost entirely on his ability to acquire and have sex with females. Important traits most likely to profit humankind more like morality, intelligence, virtue, compassion, innovation and resourcefulness get tossed to the wayside. It is a very alarming revelation of society when we value a person's good looks (which in most cases takes no effort or discipline to achieve) over something like intelligence (leads to creation of ideas/inventions), compassion (strengthens communities), or morality (provides a code of conduct, a foundation for any strong society).
So... he said very little about angry low status men.
What course is this? Anyone has a link to the full course?
I love hearing his ideas a lot, but I wish he would temper his generalizations more sometimes...i.e., when he says there’s nothing that improves IQ-nutrition does and there are studies that back it up...leaving this out and making it sound like there are absolutely no manipulable influential factors for improvement makes it simple to make assertions that aren’t as useful in some ways because they’re not truly founded and misses something really important re: the nature vs nurture issue...I’ve listened to him a bunch and am convinced his heart is in the right place, but I wish I’d encounter more videos where people discuss with him and tease things out with him and aren’t combative or simply agreeing...That said I appreciate his talks so much!
Is there any hope for low status guys? I am not violent or angry really, I just don't want to die alone.
ChaoticEvilCanary deaths a journey everyone makes alone. Like birth. Same thing.
Who determines status? Nameless, faceless people who are clinically insane. As a man we're always told what to do or what to be, but not how to do or how to be...It's set up. Mr. Peterson is a very smart and educated man who has done nothing important in his life. Case in point, I work armed security and am considered 'low status'. However, high status males need me to protect them from thugs, because they don't know how to.. The servant may become the master. Now this is how to gain status. Live life your way. Get hobbies you like, exercise so you can project an image of power, strength and good health, take the protein powders too. Read books that teach you things, I like 19th Century Russian lit. You don't have too. Dress sharp, in a manner the projects an authentic image of 'I'm here and I'm the man!' Remember women are taught the same values as a prostitutes live so who cares what they think. Do what I do, here's a real life example. I'm in my mid-forties, I'm jogging down the street and get hit on by young stuff. The conversation ended like this 'Scott I'm sure you're a nice guy but as a security guard you'll never have enough money to support me or the two kids I already have...end quote'. My high status answer? Quote 'How much money to you charge for a 'B....Job?' as I kept on jogging.
Scott Wahrenberger So wait, the gist of what you are is "I'm more important than highly educated men who spent years getting where they are because I can kick the crap out of people. Also, all women are whores." There is a reason military types should never hold the reigns of power. You are not qualified to rule just because you are good at killing people. We are supposed to be a democracy, not a military dictatorship. You want that, move to Africa.
Find somebody stupid enough to fall in love with you... and somebody you can fall in love with as well
@@aroundthebend721 so a security guard (rent-a-cop who couldn't make it into the police force, obviously for good reason) thinks "Peterson has done nothing important in his life"? It's scary that someone so ignorantly stupid to say
that is allowed to carry a gun. please go back to playing with tires hanging in back yards.
High-intensity exercise builds brain matter
yeah.. sure xD Keep telling yourself that
It helps to a point.
I skate and run every night which makes me feel realllly good and is good for my endurance. I don't lift or anything because I actually prefer being agile and able to run away from the tanks lol, I lift the TV remote and that's a pretty epic experience sometimes
nop
Mark H not weights.. high intensity exercise. Many athletes usually do very well in school.
4:10 what the heck is that small room on the right hand side, and what are those students doing in there?
I searched the web but was unable to find the cat predator with the dental adaption for gripping hominid skulls. Can anyone help please?
About monkeys (and I have experience with monkeys!) they are NOISY. When danger comes, they never hide, they group together and raise all hell. They also throw things, shake branches, jump up and down, run back and forth. Even small monkeys do this. They 'mob' danger, not run from danger.
Humans that are 'isolated' are not able to do this. But watch any video of a mob of young people: when any fight starts, they mob the fight and join in, even.
This is exactly how crows behave, regarding recognised danger.
100% correct. That is why many crows are called 'a mob of crows' in medieval Britain.
@@emsnewssupkis6453 Murder of crows
@@talcohen4144 Yes. Even tiny birds do this, you know. It is a defensive move that goes back millions and millions of years.
Social status is low brow identity
Says the low status guy
that guy with the toque at front row is looking at the professor too much haha
I was a angry low status man living in a big expensive so called sophisticated city with a menial job yet essential, the loneliness was painful anyway struggled through it retired and live in a small town so happier, to use a cliche"play the hand we're dealt"
High status males becoming low status males.
John Rambo, hold my beer.
if your a "low rung" guy, your shit out of luck..Thanks professor.
Men need to be in the top 3% of all men to be really interesting to women!
Charles Granata that doesn't make sense. If you can improve yourself in what you are already Good at, then you Will stand out and be seen by women.
Find a purpose that can put you high on a perhaps more non-typical ladder. Volunteer organizations attract good women, for ex.
Clay .C.
Hm... Sure it is Women u wish to pursue?
Charles Granata
Or you guys could try the women that have been burnt and left by the top 0.1 percentile of men (narcissistic workaholics). Women on the rebound looking for sympathy.
(Just a little machiavellianism provided here.)
That is me.. failure after failure..
Maps of Meaning.... the Architecture of Belief....... Social Norms.....;; the freeze reaction sounds like the Shut Down reaction/response of PolyVagal Theory (dorsal vagal state)......
I can't believe we need a professor to explain this basic concept of human nature. Men without college degrees know this already.
We live in the worst time that is why.
Growing in a world full of idiots who are full of themselves, tend to take you further away from the obvious truth, so it’s rare that someone actually speaks the truth and not some made up bullshit to sell you something and make you stupid in the process