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I dont know if this is possible but it would be awesome if blue had a different team evertime you challenge the pokemon league after winning it for the first time...
Hey, I have a great idea for an April's Fools joke if you are interested.
@@cmbaz1140 we are considering this for Crystal Legacy in a form as coding in gen 1 is just a nightmare.
@@Aerogod223 woah...nice...looking forward to that...
Do you guys plan on making a guide for making romhacks? i am very curious about that?
Smith, do we have a RELEASE DATE for this YELLOW LEGACY MASTERPIECE you are currently working on???
Blue’s like that one kid on the playground that swears you can get mewthree, but won’t show you
“I swear he evolves at level 101!”
"I caught a mew, it was under the truck at the ss Anne
@@666blaziken Same bro. Did you catch the starters in the grass behind Bill’s house?
I started playing pokémon when it came out in the mid-90s, was about seven or eight at the time, I swear so many of the kids I talked to on the playground were just habitual liars
"I have a mewthree"
"Oh wow can you show it to me?"
"I don't feel like it"
I always thought he got Sandshrew to counter my Pikachu
That’s what my thoughts are
But he spends his time in the game telling ypu basically he isn't even worried about you. So why pick a pokemon weak to misty just to counter you when he isn't worried about you as a trainer.
@@Aerogod223"Fuck you Red"- Blue probably is my guess
@@Aerogod223 What does Misty have to do with anything? The entire idea behind literally every version of Gary/Green/... is the fact that he catches pretty much all the Pokemon and then switches them out however he pleases. He has already beat Misty; you can see this by checking the pillars in the Cerulean Gym. With Sandshrew, he checks you (which is fun, because he's made your Pikachu useless) AND he is already prepping for Lt. Surge.
@@RyoCalienteI love that he conditions you with starting with a flying type so you get cocky and confident to start with Pikachu and then boom, the next fight he starts with a ground type and you go cry in a corner
I remember trying to catch more than 40 kinds of Pokémon before St Anne when I was a kid so I could shove it in my rivals face. All that time wasted 😅
It is possible, but incredibly tedious. For example, in Red version, if you start with Charmander you can obtain and fully evolve Charmander, Pidgey, Rattatta, Caterpie, Weedle, both Nidorans (there are two Moon Stones available that early), Spearow, Paras, Ekans, Mankey, Drowzee, Diglett, and Zubat, can catch but not evolve Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and Clefairy, and can partially evolve Oddish, Abra, and Geodude. That's 43 right there, there may be a few others I'm missing.
@@yoseftreitman7226 You can also get Magikarp line
@@yoseftreitman7226 The funny, yet unfair, thing is, Blue can catch even more than that. Judging by the Lavender Tower encounter in Pokemon Yellow in which he can have a Shellder, he has a Super Rod. You can only catch a Shellder with a Super Rod, either in Vermillion or the Cycling Road.
And if you have a Super Rod, you can catch Tentacool, Horsea, Staryu and Shellder in Vermillion and Goldeen in Cerulean.
Of course, that's just the in-game explanation, the devs probably didn't think as far and gave him a rare pokemon just because.
@@yoseftreitman7226Don't forget magikarp and gyarados. Also, I think farfetch'd as well. But wondering if it's possible in Yellow? Coz you can't get some of these pokemon in that game... like, weedle, or farfetch'd that early. But I think you can get venonat but not sure.
@@mazeppa1231yes you can get Gyarados in yellow
His is illegal however, as it has HYDRO PUMP at level fuckin 22
So yea, hes cheating even in red and blue
It has come to our attention that another channel Droomish made a video on a similar topic last year. None of us had seen the video, and it's quite different to ours. It's a very cool video and you should watch it if you're interested in the topic 🙂 th-cam.com/video/PCimfyIe-Ao/w-d-xo.html
I wish to like this, but it's at 69 likes... So treat this comment as a like.
But also, this video is far from Droomish's video, it begins with the same criticism of the character, but very quickly becomes an entirely different beast. Both great videos, both unique though
@@Br0ohamI haven't seen the droomish video, but unless they are also making a "pokemon yellow but smoothing rough edges while maintaining the fundamental gen 1 jank" romhack, I believe you on it being a different beast.
honestly I’m just grateful for this to know I wasn’t losing my mind when I felt like I’d seen this video before during the first minute or two lmao
@@sethroelke2311yup, it becomes pretty clear pretty quickly that they’re very different videos. droomish’s is all about proving how it’s not possible that blue could have caught 40 pokemon by that point
Blue's additional lie in his champion speech is that he never actually became Champion. He was waiting for his grandpa, professor Oak himself, to show up to battle him. Oak was the Indigo League Champion, while Lance was merely the 4th member of the Elite Four. But when Oak shows up and finds out that two trainers who beat the Elite Four had already battled for the title, he gives his title to the victor. (Just like in Pokemon GSC, the Hall of Fame is specifically stated to be for champions only, which is why Oak walks you in to record your team.)
>Gary is Prof Oak's grandson
>Caught 40 Pokemon by the time at SS Anne
I mean, that makes sense. He could use his fame for advantage
I know they aren’t technically the same character, but all I can think of now is Gary from the anime using his car full of cheerleaders to somehow get his hands on 40 Pokémon before the SS Anne fight
In reality he probably just isn't limited by version exclusives
He caught the Pokemon and traded with the trainers before you got there, leaving little for you.
He also didn't leave you a lot of moon stones to pick up
Or the same game path as you.
He's not. Proof is in his team. Because no matter which game you play, at least in the gen 3 games, which are remakes of gen 1, if you pick charizard, he will ALWAYS have an Arcanine. So even if you play Leaf Green, despite it being a Fire Red exclusive, he will still have said Arcanine. Meaning he's not limited to version exclusives. Though red and blue might be different. Don't remember, haven't played them in a while, lol
Even that would only make him barely able to hit 40 kinds... With him evolving and stoning EVERYTHING, as well as in game trades that he clearly didn't make since they're available to you.
when I first beat lance, and went to the next room, I definitely shouted the 6 year old equivalent of “aw wtf you can’t be serious”
Hmm... I sorta feel like this lineup still doesn't adequately demonstrate how Blue beats Brock. Given that his anime counterpart Gary is known to use a Nidoking, I think his second Pokémon for the optional encounter should be a Nidoran which is found on that same route and which learns double kick to use against Brock.
This is valid however the argument for this is he learned from his gym 1 experience hence why he caught bellsprout. He probably struggled his first fight and had to adapt thus why he's at the level he is then.
@@Aerogod223: Maybe, but Nidoran would still need to be at least level 12 before learning Double Kick, so it wouldn't just be a free win without extra training.
Alternatively, you could just give Water Gun to Rattata since that's a thing you can do in RBY (just not before Brock in vanilla but hey, its the rival not us)
Nidoking is a good idea, since this is Yellow, the anime version, and Nidoking is obviously a great mon.
gary does use both, actually, but yeah, in kanto, he uses a nidoking, while later on he uses a nidoqueen up to the johto league. nidoran male would be more in line with the anime
This isn't directly related but in Pokemon Gold/Silver when you entered the 8th Kanto gym to fight Blue, there is tons of boxes all over the gym with Pokeballs sitting on top of them. If you count all the Pokeballs, the number is the exact count of every Pokemon in the games of gen 1 and gen 2, minus the 3 legendary birds and dogs, Ho-oh, Lugia, Mew, Mewtwo, and Celebi. 240 in total.
@@j.d.714 to be fair, I thought they were mega blocks when I was a kid lol
Also minus the Fossil Pokemon and Unown
I thought they were legos or megablocks. I always thought Blue made it look a kid's room.
I've personally never been a fan of Blue having Alakazam at the Silph Co. fight. You're forced to fight him before you can face Sabrina who uses Alakazam as her ace. It really takes away some of the luster of the Sabrina fight.
theory: he gets sandshrew to get ready for lt. surge because he's so ahead of you....thats why he's so shocked you still havent even attempted Misty...(little does he know you had a massive run in with team rocket)
I love Droomish's coverage of that '40 Pokémon' lie, such wonderfully flowery and verbose, like Colson Whitehead.
Yeah I loooove his video, first time this was brought to my attention
@@soyalexpop I love how Droomish uses really OTT and verbose language but plays it totally straight, it really works as a stylistic choice. It almost sounds like a hard-boiled monologue from a noir film.
I was wondering where I saw this video before.
It was a cool video and is in the description of this video with a shout-out. Also the context of both videos is pretty different as Smith actually looks more at his champion dialogue for the inspiration of our team building in Yellow Legacy.
My first thought on seeing this pop up, too
In the game his role is your *Rival* not the gym leaders rivals. Sandshrew is because it is immune to electric and you have pikachu. It's a counter to you.
He's also a step ahead of you in getting the badges and through the league though. It's not like the two things are mutually exclusive.
Canonically, he defeated all the same leaders as you.
And, if we consider the fact that he beat Misty already, Sandshrew is an easy choice to train up for Lt. Surge as prep.
The Vulpix back sprite is restored 😭❤️😭❤️
I just want to say Gary's "I caught 40 'Mons" isn't technically a lie. Version exclusives and he could've gotten additional Moon Stones before we got to Mt. Moon since he's always a step ahead of us.
Exactly people keep forgetting version exclusives only apply to the player character
Even with version exclusives, inability to trade, and limitations on evolutionary stones, a single player with one copy of the game can get more than 40 pokemon.
@@yoseftreitman7226 Droomish's video proved it impossible.
@@octolockg5059 If Blue plays by your rules, maybe. But Blue does not play by your rules. He has a Super Rod, judging by the fact that in Pokemon Yellow, in Lavender Tower he has a Shellder (that can only be caught using a Super Rod in Vermillion and Cycling Road), and he also has Surf, judging by the fact he also has a Magnemite (which can only be caught inside or outside the power plant).
In Pokemon red/blue he can also get a Growlithe, which suggests he has access to Saffron and he got to Lavender from there (because not only it's a Pokemon Red exclusive, but that's the route where you find it), He also has an Exeggcute which can only be found in the Safari Zone.
@@TheLeviathan1293 That's not what I was talking about. I was referring to Droomish's video how it's impossible for the player to get more than 40 Pokémon by the time Blue himself has. So he clearly got more moon stones than us. I'm well aware Blue is filthy rich and was probably given the best tools at the start.
I really dig the way you're using team building as a lens for character analysis, it's some of the coolest stuff in Pokemon when the storytelling overlaps with the mechanics. just got this in my recommended, I super appreciate the shoutout 🙏
> ... the power of ground types
Shows Rhydon being ohkod with a move that heals the attacker
Feels 4x weakness man.
A buffed move, to note.
17:42 - Blue: "Huh... I always wondered why people never use their strongest pokemon first."
On the side note, the whole changing difficulty given the win loss ratio reminds me a lot of "Dynamic Difficulty" from Spyro 3.
Basically, if the player dont lose lives consecutively thourought the levels, the game slowly converts itself to make the game rougher around the edges, such as some gems are turned into enemies and boss fights are harder.
Is that a sans undertale reference, kind sir?
@@marinagaleotti Heh. Perhaps...
I think it's fair to assume Blue used other teams against gyms the player never sees. He tries to build a well-rounded team that can cover eatch others' weaknesses because the layer will also likely do the same.
I have also used teams against gyms, grinding the pokedex, and other points in the game that Blue never saw in the game.
Blue has a sandshrew because you have a pikachu. It has nothing to do with misty, it’s not that deep bro lol
I hope the final build keeps the Sandshrew or another ground type to counter the Pikachu. He did make changes on the video's final version for his Crystal Legacy release after all
They don’t make rivals like they used to
We literally just got Nemona in the most recent generation, the hell you talking about? I'll definitely admit TPC seriously dropped the ball three times prior with Gen 6-8 rivals, but Nemona is such a breath of fresh air.
Nemona was lame
@@generalsynnacle23 Nemona was OK but still not the legendary type of pure arrogance and ego of gen 1 and 2. The kind that just makes you wanna knock 'em out for talking so much crap
Are we jus gonna ignore Bede
@@cursedkevin Straight up forgot about him but yes he was a breath of fresh air. I really wish he was the primary rival instead of being the lesser of 3 progressively worse ones
There is something that english-speaking Pokétubers never seem to think of when analyzing dialogue, it is that Pokémon is originally a Japanese games, and that the dialogues are rarely perfectly translated. It's entirely possible that Blue says something completely different in the Japanese version, that, during localization to the US version, was modified to something else.
This is how people make the mistake of assuming that Fantina is from Kalos because she speaks French, whereas in every non-english version, she does in fact speak english, indicating that she would probably be from Unova or Galar instead.
Exactly!
It's so infuriating, especially as someone who knows Japanese.
Translations are horrible especially for older games, it just reeks of idiocy and laziness.
If you want to prove a point or do analysis why not use the original dialog in case of any fishy statements...
i would assume thats because its most probable that english speakers would have a preliminary understanding of french within the expected markets for Pokemon sales where as Japanese and French speakers would most probably have a grasp of english. Conversely since theyve stopped pretending to that pokemon regions arent espies of real places Nemona speaks *national* and Spanish.
@@spazerdazer8421 I'd love someone to actually make a re-translated script document for each game, as someone who is into learning Japanese, I'd love to play these games with any corrections
@@spazerdazer8421 To be quite fair, translations are bound by the character limit on older games. By the DS era, I don't think this was an issue anymore, but, although the translations of the early gens was questionable at best, this shouldn't be held against the localization team. Content creators, though, I think should definitely take the original dialogues into account when assessing a character's personality.
@@F14thunderhawk Well, for living in France, I can assure you that the level of English is pretty laughable around here. You're not wrong, though.
Probably a happy accident, but Blues final Jolteon team represents the types off all of the Kanto gym leaders (minus a poison type), almost like he has seen the power of those trainers and learnt from them.
No rock type either
@@dominicmoisant8393Rhydon
@@dominicmoisant8393 But he has Rhydon in his final Jolteon Team, which is part Rock. It's representing both Brock and Giovanni.
I mean, has anyone ever brought up the fact that blue uses 0 HMs for his Pokemon, and none of his Pokemon are seen having them, he COULD'VE used an HM Mule, but if so, what'd he use, and why isn't at least cut present on any of them.
I imagine all the non-6 mon teams actually have a HM butler as the final member(s) that he chooses to not use
He's always a step ahead of the player, he's the one challenging us. So perhaps when he knows we're coming, he prepares his team accordingly and ditches the HM Pokémon.
Makes me wonder what small child Blue bullied into trading to get Alakazam.
Blue could catch over 40 if he caught every available Pokémon from route 1 to 11, version exclusives included, leveled non party ones up to Surge’s Raichu, traded a Graveler, and used moon stones on Nidorino, Nidorina, Clafairy, and Jigglypuff.
He actually got a bunch of pokemon that appear once on the map, like the legendaries or the Lake of Rage Gyrados in GSC. But since he is always one step ahead of you, he never uses them because he doesn't want to steamroll the game with all his ubers. He likes to play in the RU bracket.
Still loses to red🗿
Except Alakazam. He's not stupid enough to skip over Alakazam.
@@rjante2236 but is stupid enough to not evolve his abra at lvl 16
@@ohhellwhereami2574 It's like that infamous MoistCritikal moment.
"Misinput, Misinput! Calm down! You calm down!"
@@rjante2236haha
Great updates - very much looking forward to the improved rival in Yellow Legacy
I noticed in Rival 3, Spearow lost its only stab move Peck, and again for Rival 4, Bellsprout lost its only stab move, Vine Whip. I was just curious if this was a preloaded move set based on their levels or an intentional decision? I thought one of the best improvements to the game was ensuring mons got at least one stab type move relatively early in the game to improve them offensively.
Thanks again for all the hard work on this--cant wait!
Getting rid of Sandshrew for just one fight to then bring it straight back feels odd, especially since his dialogue makes it clear he's already beaten Misty.
He picked a ground type to counter Pikachu, which he baits out at first with the Pidgey. I feel that alone shows some competence.
8:50 So we shouldn’t assume he took the ground type to beat Brock?
I like Sandshrew. It not only counters Brock but Pikachu as well. Also, if he brings the Sandshrew to Misty only to learn the weakness, this serves as a precedent to his dialogue about type coverage as the Champion.
Having Nidorino/Nidorina on Nugget Bridge would give him a canonical answer to Brock and would be OK lorewise. Instead maybe Eevee could get early double kick as a bit of flavour.
I always found it weird how they created Marowak-Alola which is fire and ghost and no ROM hack has gone back and added it to back to the part of lavender town where mother Marowak that was protecting her Cubone child was killed. This would make so much more sense and added another ghost type for Agatha.
Radical Red makes A-Marowak a big boss.
OMG THE BACK SPRITE OF PIKACHU 8:54
Edit: OMG ALL THE BACK SPRITES IN THE VIDEO ARE AWESOME
But he isn't fat anymore 😟
@@ohhellwhereami2574 but its so cute
@@HenlipHTG Too bad I'm never gonna use it the moment I can get my hands on a Raichu
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the rival picks up a starter just before the elite 4 and adds it to his team instead of the element type he has been using so far.
I’d imagine that to be the case, but in addition to his Eeveelution; for example, using Charizard alongside Vaporeon.
@@blueeclipse395 And then Blastoise could cover Jolteon's weakness to Ground, while Venusaur could cover Flareon's weaknesses to Water, Ground, and Rock.
@@JonnySpec I was thinking the same thing, good sir. Thank you.
Noticed the new gen 1 front sprites you're implementing for Yellow Legacy.
They look great! Can't wait to see the rest!
Yellow Legacy is LIVE May 4th! Go watch the video ‘I made the Perfect Yellow Romhack’ to get the download the patch link!!
These are actually great teams the only change I’d make is to give him a Nidoking in one of his teams
Bro you can totally catch more than 40 Pokemon before the SS Anne... I even had 2 mews by that point
I think it’s because of bill’s collection filling up his Pokédex
He says he caught 40 pokemon why would bill give him pokemon. He would only show him pokemon to get pages in his dex open.
No, its because he isn't limited by Version Exclusives like we are. For example, in Red, you'll find people using Bellsprout despite the fact that you can never get one yourself without trading.
@@jefferyfeistel3843 likewise with blue version where you can't get oddish or ekans and yet...
That pikachu backsprite goes hard
This is probably the thing I'm looking forward to playing the most, thank you Smith and team
Really enjoy these deep dives on the old Pokémon games man so much nostalgia
There's something I did in my FireRed hack wherein Blue manages to pick up a Pineco and a Minun (who have been added as rare encounters to Routes 22 and 1 respectively). He's still using them in the Nugget Bridge fight but by the time you get to the SS Anne you find that they are both at level 15 as he stopped training them. Honestly I might actually stick Flash on the Minun to hammer the point home. By the fight in the Pokemon Tower he's boxed his Pineco and Minun in favour of different Pokemon.
I'm probably going to steal the idea of these radically different teams based on starter choice but I actually think it would be hilarious and make sense in universe if he brought a HM slave to Victory Road. Gotta get past those strength puzzles somehow.
Interestin' stuff.
I think by the time Blue is bragging about the number of Pokémon he has, he reslly should have a full team.
It’s a game balance issue. It really doesn’t make sense to have this one random NPC trainer with a full team of 6 before the 3rd gym when literally none of the other ones do throughout the entire rest of the game
@@HomeCookinMTGGood point. A way they *could* have gone with it would have been to have him catch a bunch of stuff, but train none of it, showing a character flaw.
There is an easy way to answer that actually. Gen 1 has the "Underpowered Share" in that it divides your EP by the number of mons in your party. If we assume Blue just has the share already and wants to powerlevel only a few mons, he would simply do what players of newer gens do and deposit the mons he thinks he does not need. He didn't expect to run into you afterall, and only challenged you impulsively since he has nothing to lose besides some cash.
This is so cool! Love the variety you've added to the rival fights
I keep forgetting that you branched out to other channels lol. I’ll always watch you man
You need a secret fourth difficulty with some crazy requirement like always beating blue without losing a pokemon. Then he just goes all out and shows up to the league with a gen 1 OU quality team.
I do like how the teams move around. Not only does it imply that he's experimenting so he can learn what's best, but it also implies he's better than most players, which was his theme throughout the game. He's always ahead of you. Beats all the gyms before you. And here, he's showing he trains more efficiently too. Most players catch their pokemon and it sticks in their team the whole game. Blue here is boxing someone he trained so far, and swapping it to train up others. Be honest, when you get to silph Co, you only have the 6 pokemon you've trained that can keep up with most pokemon in that part of the game. All the other Pokémon were boxed and never used, or you stopped using once you got a new pokemon you wanted. Blue changes pokemon so much that it implies he has a good dozen or so that can still keep up. Most people don't have both a high leveled Cloyster and Golduck, where they're not both on their team at once. Its usually just one or the other, and the only thing done to the other is made to evolve for the pokedex.
Loved the video, on the Eevee Evolution Blue chose, we could add on Flareon's that since there are not a lot of inmediate Fire types on the region (being Celadon and grass between Celadon and Lavender Town first wild Fire encounters) he chose to evolve Eevee into Flareon cause he trusted more his own and seasoned Pokemon rather than new caught ones and bought the Fire Stone on that very same city.
Just throwing a curveball but your video made me think that there could be a more elaborate reason on Flareon, idk if it makes any sense tbh
Those new back sprites look awesome!
Kudos to the team for all their hard work and going above and beyond
This reminds me of this kid I knew who wrote down this long, convoluted way to get a level 100 wild Charizard to spawn in Gold's Victory Road. I never tried it, not because I didn't believe him, but because I just really wasn't interested. I already had a level 100 Typhlosion and had completed the story. What was a level 100 Charizard, which I already had in Red, going to do for me?
I honestly would love to see him experiment with his eevee. Maybe for the battle right before the league he considered changing for a different water/fire/electric mon but because with that new mon he lost again he cahnges it back to his starter
Does anybody know what program/website Smith uses to show off the teams and moves? I love the layout of the sprites with the move types color coded.
Probably Bulbapedia
He probably just inspect elemented the Bulbapedia page about Blue.
Great vid hope you can do other rivals just like this in future games.
What will the team count if you skip the first battle on route 22? I'm always pretty bad about leaving that route after just checking the grass right at the beginning.
It counts as a loss, same in the original Yellow.
Were you running some music from Trails in the Sky? That's pretty cool, if so!
The teams plural is supposed to refer to the fact that his final team and Eeveelution choice changes based on not only your starter choice but also on whether you win or lose against him in earlier meetings
You know, Blue making the comment that he searched long and hard for Pokemon, I think a real surprise that shows off his dedication in the Jolteon path would be having an Articuno. As rare as they are, we've seen examples of multiple legendary Pokemon of the same species existing. Because the player could have caught the Articuno in the Seafoam Isles, the implication would be that that in his dedication to discover Pokemon searching high and low, he's gone places you haven't. Mt. Silver is right there after all, the idea he might have found it while lost in Victory Road isn't far fetched, and the snowy peak seems like the perfect place for an Articuno to have been hanging out.
Jesus christ man's eyebrows going ham
I'm surprised you didn't give Double Kick and/or Pin Missle to Jolteon as those moves have some unique and otherwise hard to acquire type coverage for Gen 1, unless you are already taking that into account by boosting certain bug type moves power, making Karate Chop a fighting move, and make Cut a Bug move and such.
I always assumed he had access to a lot of trades we didn't get. That would explain how many different kinds of pokemon he could get. But yeah, he really should have a much more diverse team to back up his claims. Well done!
Hey Smith, I have a question. Since the player can technically skip the fight next to the League, what happens if the player doesn't fight him there? Does he just get a Flareon as default?
Blue has heaten misty by the time of the nugget bridge fight. His name is on the pillar by the gym entrance before you ever get to Cerulean. Sandshrew is actually a really good idea to spam Sand Attack at the start of a battle (the ai just isn’t that mean against the player) against wild pokemon or random trainers with 1-2 pokemon
Awesome video man. I love all of the different teams Blue has to reflect his growth as a trainer.
Smaller channel called Droomish did this back in Jan, was very well made vid too
Glad to see Gary's lies getting exposed more
New back sprite jumpscare
This makes me realize how much potential there is with rivals experimenting with teambuilding, much like the player.
And how Hop has been the only one to do it, and even so, it was brief.
In the animation Gary also gets more than 8 badges, so there are a few leaps with what we can achieve and what he has achieved.
I love this video! I never knew the reasoning behind the Eevee evolution choice. I guess because I always refused to lose, so I'd restart if I did. Thanks for that!!
Just an addendum to something you said, “capturing 40 Pokémon” at that point in the story is possible in two ways. The first is obviously just catching 40 of the same critter. But if you consider what was asked of the two of them, and completing the Pokédex, then “catching” could also count as registering, and it is possible to get upwards of 45 Pokemon in the Pokédex through evolution. I’ve done it twice specifically to tell Blue to frack off lol
I can't remember if the trade evolutions have a level up option in this mod, but I'd like to see Kadabra replaced with Gengar instead of Alakazam, hinting that he found another trainer to trade with to maximize his power. This also gives him an excuse to experiment with other psychic types if you wanted.
If the player loses in the lab regardless of if you fight or skip the optional fight he will be vaporeon. If you skip the optional fight and win in the lab he’ll be flareon
You don’t have to do both fights to get vaporeon, but you do to get jolteon
Is this the sneak peak of new backsprites?
Blue is such a great, smug rival
Haven't I seen this before? Or at the very least, I distinctly remember someone talking about how it's impossible to catch 40 kinds of Pokémon by that point in the game and specifically calling Blue out as a liar
I've always found Blue's evolution of eevee to be one of the coolest features of Yellow, and this is a really cool way to flesh that out narratively and mechanically!
Now i have to count, since i swear he could catch and evolve that much up to his team's level. If not, its really close. He is not at his best team though, since nidoking, gyarados, and the lvl 29 or 31 free dugtrio would make him better
Smith, do we have a RELEASE DATE for this YELLOW LEGACY MASTERPIECE you are currently working on???
Really glad executor made it onto the final team, for me I found it to be the most iconic member for his team considering no other trainer uses it, and it's unquie and wacky design always made it memorable for me, I always wondered how to get one as a kid. (I never did the safari zone because I thought it was boring, and I still don't like it).
I kinda wish there was a way to program repeatable fights that give no Exp, like the Battle Simulator, but only for the rival. He would pre-select a team, battle the team you bring, and depending on which Pokémon of yours is defeated, his dialogue changes. And this could ultimately formulate his final team for the League.
That’s a bit much for the early Gen games, but it would be fun to see multiple different teams that don’t progress the game other than the initial fight.
Thoughts?
Sad not to see a psychic drowzee at St Anne's battle, it's nearby and pretty powerful using the type
Also, a little extra experimentation with safari zone hard normal types like tauros, chansey, or even another snorlax is kind of disappointing 😢 surely Blue did fight some competitive battling using first simulators
Will we still be able to get this legacy yellow game now that relic castle is down? i'd love to relive my childhood with a fresh coat of paint.
Is there a recommended way to get a cartridge version of Crystal Legacy?
Droomish did it first lol. Nah for real tho, cool video! Each has it's own little twists that make them unique. Also really like how you adressed his channel in the description, lotta people don't do that for some reason
This is all brilliant! I get what some people are saying with Sandshrew against you not the Gym leaders but personally I think its much better for him to focus on his own growth (and bellsprouts).
Also a normal Pikachu isn't a great Pokemon why would he waste time countering it? I imagine his mindset
Lose to both Rivals - Yeah Pikachu is rubbish just ignore it
Win 1 - Best not take the risk evolving into an electric weak
Win 2 - Wow if Pikachu is strong I need a faster more powerful electric pokemon for myself!
Btw smith, I think you should do a platinum legacy, because platinum, while similar to emerald in the case that it’s more polished than crystal and yellow, platinum still is a lot of problems that I’m sure that the legacy series could fix. I ask that you please consider doing this.
In Blue's defense, he might have a ton of other Pokemon that were in the Box, which would make him not a liar. It's also possible he did in fact create multiple teams, but we're only seeing one of them. It's also true that his number of Pokemon on his team changes throughout the game (eventually getting to 6), so it can be said that he is searching far and wide to get the right Pokemon to complete it. In other words, there is no proof that he is lying.
I however, like the exercise in editing the rival to create an even more direct link between the gameplay and the rival's statements.
I think it would cool if Blue got a hold of the Areodactyl if the player reaches a point and hasn’t claimed the fossil.
If you are assuming Blue went to Celadon first, he wouldn't have reasons to not evolve growlithe, vulpix, shellder and so on, would he? It's not he would know that most stone evos don't learn new moves before trying that
i think that his use of teams implies that the team he uses to fight you is not the team he takes gym leaders on with. growing up i would bring whole teams of super effectives to each gym if i could, and then swap back around for my hm users and staples that i thought wouldnt handle that gym well enough after beating it
The anime proved that he had multiple teams though. Maybe he beats the gyms with different Pokémon
Do we already have a release date? I will definitely record gameplay of this game on my channel
"Smell ya later..." - He would be the most irritating rival from my childhood if Eric Sparrow didn't exist.
8:59 to be fair, i feel like it can be explained away by him being like the player in that he has caught a bunch of pokemon but chooses just a few of them to have on hand at a time. So the team you see at nugget bridge might not have been the team he used against brock or misty
Dude, such an awesome video. Love these changes so much
Would love to see you run all these teams through the Elite Four to show that Blues teams are capable of making him champion!
back sprites be lookin crispy
I like how this is the only channel that shows what's wrong about Pokemon games, and actually do something about it. Love the content man, looking forward to play this game.
im glad to see pidgeot take a place in this team, always felt odd that yellow replaced it, its one of blues most iconic pokemon at least to me and i think he has it in every other team [though i understand when yellow came out it wouldn't have been as such especially when he gets the same starter each time]