Tent Review - Big Agnes Copper Spur UL 2P (Motorcycle Camping)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 94

  • @fgDAB
    @fgDAB 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    People complaining about the price, but it’s a quality piece of equipment. You pay for what you get, and I absolutely love every single one of my Big Agnes tents. Have had the Copper Spur HV UL 2 tent for almost 4 years now, it’s barely staring to fall apart. My Copper Spur Bike Pack tent I’ve had for a few months so far and love it. Recently got the Big Agnes Big House for car camping and I cannot wait to see what it has to offer. Big Agnes, thank you for the quality equipment you create. Thank you.

  • @clarson2916
    @clarson2916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m a bicyclist, and you are correct about the similarities between bicycle camping and motorcycle camping, or just touring in general. That’s why I often watch motorcycle channels like yours. Great channel by the way. Weight is more of a concern on a bicycle, but not as much as weight is a concern in backpacking. As with motorcycle camping, it is volume that is probably the bigger concern. I come from a background of ultramarathon bicycling, where we did 500 to 600 mile 3 to 4 day rides. In events like that, speed was a concern. So, keeping gear to a minimum was important. One thing I always try to keep in mind. Because I’m not touring in the third world, I’m not leaving civilization. You don’t need to be prepared for every possible thing. You can buy food, basic repair items, and even clothing along the way. I like to leave a little money in the small towns along my route. Therefore I rarely bring cooking equipment. Meeting the locals is a fun part of touring, and it’s easier to do when I eat in the cafes. I can live, for several days, on cold food if necessary. I bring basic fowl weather riding, and camping gear, but if the weather takes a real turn for the worse, I’m usually ready for a night in a motel anyway. I bring very little in the way of “off of the bike clothing”, because I’m not planning on going to the symphony, or anything like that. Because of this mentality, my total packed weight, including bags, is between 15 and 20 lbs. With a small gear list, it’s much easier to keep the bicycle aerodynamic, and on a bicycle, unless you’re in the mountains, aerodynamics is everything!

    • @firesail6707
      @firesail6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was helpful, thanks.

  • @2wheelsandatent
    @2wheelsandatent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thanks for having me along on the trip and the video.
    Still can’t believe you put in the happy dance lol.
    Awesome job on this review!

    • @dallasevan3847
      @dallasevan3847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A tip : watch series at Kaldrostream. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.

    • @achillesmarcos1717
      @achillesmarcos1717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dallas Evan Yea, been watching on KaldroStream for months myself :)

  • @NateSail82
    @NateSail82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tim, can back this tent 100. I had it years ago, the original version when ultralight backpacking. I moved to motorcycle camping and got a Redverz, TN2 thanks to your recommendation and loved it. Sold the Copper Spur Hv UL2. Well I just re-bought the Copper Spur HV UL2 MtnGlo in 2022 because of all the tents in my 30 years of camping it is by far the best sleeping experience I've ever had. My original weathered me through some truly torrential stuff on mountain ridges with lighting storms so hard it was never dark in my backpacking days. If it can withstand that it can take motorcycle trips with ease.

  • @darlenefedor1692
    @darlenefedor1692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the older version of this tent. My husband and I were at a motocross race in Texas and in middle of the night a tornado went directly overhead. This tent held up well, while some motor homes and toy haulers of other racers were damaged. This tent has traveled in my saddlebags to Sturgis and West Virginia as well as numerous shorter trips. I liked it so much I bought a second tent so my husband can take one to motocross adventures, while I travel cross country with the ladies of my bike club.

  • @brianmoore8666
    @brianmoore8666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Tim , have to say you do some of the best reviews on equipment , very thorough with specs and options , really like the non bias opions and disclosers , you have a relaxed and professional tone as well , your a natural at this kind of stuff , I have a hard time throwing any rocks at you or your videos... i guess I have to save that for Cody's channel ✌

  • @iainmackinnon9620
    @iainmackinnon9620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Tim Thanks for putting up consistently high quality videos...they are inspirational and so encouraging . Once this Covid situation is done with you just have to come down under to NZ

  • @brucemonighan2925
    @brucemonighan2925 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had this tent about 9 years now. Amazing tent. Easy to set up, easy to sleep in, holds off bad weather and in hot weather just peel back the tent fly. Packs really small if you pack the poles separately . I put the tent, tent fly and base all in one small compressible stuff sack. Maybe 6" in diameter and 14' tall. Highly recommend this tent. I have the "garage" but never used it. It packs almost the same size as the tent

  • @WQFT99
    @WQFT99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome review. The copper spur was on my short list when I was shopping a couple of months ago. After a lot of research, I actually ended up with the new Nemo Firefly over this one. The copper spur and firefly are actually very similar tents. Very close dimension and feature wise, and almost identical weight. Quality of the Nemo stuff seems as good as the Big Agnes stuff, but the price was substantially less especially compared to the bikepacking model. The only downside is the length of the poles are closer to 19", but the shorter poles didn't justify the $120 extra for me. I saw your review on the Nemo Hornet a while back. The main difference is the Firefly uses a little heavier duty fabric than the Hornet, is slightly roomier, and is a freestanding design--which seemed to be your main complaints against the Hornet. Not knocking the BA stuff, people seem to really like it. But I felt like the Firefly was the better value. Keep the awesome content coming! Also, thanks for the heads up on 2 Wheels and a Tent. Just subscribed to his channel as well.

  • @robertbotta6536
    @robertbotta6536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome as usual. I am buying the bike packing version as soon as it becomes available because I trust your judgement. {tell Big Agnes I said so}

  • @ScrambleNorth
    @ScrambleNorth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the mountain glow and the lights are pretty neat.

  • @12bravo68
    @12bravo68 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    By the way, bought your latest book... it might be the most thorough camping book I've ever read. It's like an Eagle Scout manual from the 1950s! Chock full of useful information - not just about motorcycle camping. Gotta learn how to tie those knots!! Well done Tim. Well done Sir.

  • @philo5096
    @philo5096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid Tim, those are quality tents. Their made at one of my favorite ski towns. Steamboat Springs, Co. Thanx, dude.

  • @shawngreenwood7825
    @shawngreenwood7825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, great collaboration. 2 wheels is another awesome channel. Like the pole idea and so true about light weight gear being sometimes not user friendly.

  • @richardzollinger4750
    @richardzollinger4750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea having a long term user interview/review. I enjoyed it.

  • @stevehahne212
    @stevehahne212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Your book just hit my front porch this afternoon, already halfway through it !!

  • @DavidsWorkshop
    @DavidsWorkshop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought a QuickHiker 2 on Decathon store, for 84€. It is great, it only weights 2.7kg, ideal for begginers.

    • @patrickcooper9641
      @patrickcooper9641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great tent but not available in the US market yet that I know off.

  • @ScrambleNorth
    @ScrambleNorth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another thing cool about these is that if it’s raining when you set up, you can set the rain fly up first and then set the body up on the inside- you’ll keep everything dry. This works well for breaking it down in the rain too!

  • @letzrockitrite8469
    @letzrockitrite8469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks FTA Tim and to Cody !

  • @ttrguy9952
    @ttrguy9952 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big Agnes makes some of the finest gear on earth! I have all of their car type camping gear. For motorcycle camping, I have the sleeping bag and integrated pad for the LONE WOLF. I was going to buy the Copper Spur tent myself but opted for the Lone-Rider ADV tent. The ADV tent is Motorcycle Specific and a better design. They are very similar but the ADV tent is faster to set up and especially in adverse weather and a way better price point for a superior tent. They are both the best in the industry! I happened to choose the later because of real pro adventure rider reviews. I have to say, the Lone Rider Tent is top shelf! Unreal quality and setup is in minutes dry or raining outside.

  • @Rikenglebert7558
    @Rikenglebert7558 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tim, one of you BEST reviews!!! Nice job:-)

  • @W4HDM
    @W4HDM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the older model MntGlo UL2 and it has been awesome! No condensation and fairly warm if set up right. My only con is the zipper flaps. The zipper tends to get hung in those. Eventually ended up tearing it.

  • @eddcurry1245
    @eddcurry1245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice review. I still love my Kelty TN2

  • @YTisDumb
    @YTisDumb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review. The short poles aside, the design is very similar to the Marmot Limelight 3p. The Marmot is about $150 cheaper, and the foot is included.

  • @BrianEllefritz
    @BrianEllefritz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I already owned the Big Agnes Rattlesnake with their MtnGLO feature having bought that new 2 years ago. It was immediately discontinued but I have loved it. However I kept hearing raves about both the Copper Spur and MSR Hubba Hubba from other moto campers. When the (just) older model of the Copper Spur went on sale last spring at REI I grabbed it figuring I could return it, or donate it or my Rattlesnake to my son who’s a big camper in Colorado but who’s old tent is showing it’s age. I set up both tents side by side in my yard and the Copper Spur was a notch better in almost all respects, most notably full-length headroom, storage, and vertical sidewalls. In the end though I kept the Rattlesnake based on one nit; The Copper Spur fly zipped from the apex of the vestibule meaning you had to crawl out to that point to unzip it. The Rattlesnake zipper for the fly runs alongside the tent wall so much more convenient fir an old guy like me. Now my son has the Copper Spur and he loves it and I’m happy too. Both of us love the MtnGLO feature. Note: the new Copper Spur fly zipper has been moved so I wasn’t the only one who noticed.

  • @Sixbears
    @Sixbears 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these reviews and enjoy everything you do with Cody.

  • @clvrswine
    @clvrswine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used the same tent for 25 years and hundreds of nights. No need to keep looking for a better one (I have tried a few) when this one just works. What people need to focus on is a true free-standing tent. There are many places where pounding stakes is either nearly impossible or way too much work. Free-standing tents can be plopped down on rock slabs or picked up and moved / adjusted to find that flatter spot or angle. My old friend: Sierra Designs Summer Moon (the Summer Moon 2 is a newer version, but seems cheaper/flimsy compared to my mid-90's original).

  • @RideOnTwo
    @RideOnTwo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Asking Cody about his home away from home. 👍He has been trying to get me to get that tent as well. Great review Tim.

  • @rayweeks1056
    @rayweeks1056 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still rocking the Kelty TN2 you recommended in your earlier videos.
    Will definitely keep this in mind for my next one.

  • @1JEEPNICK1
    @1JEEPNICK1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That tent has been on my radar. My next tent as well

    • @2wheelsandatent
      @2wheelsandatent 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So worth it, I love love love mine!

  • @MRMRS2wheeler
    @MRMRS2wheeler 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review. This tent is very similar to my Kelty 3.3. Also a 3 season tent, but it has a nice extended vestibule that acts as an awning when we need shade and rain protection.
    Although, the BA Copper packs a little smaller, the Kelty is a 3 person tent.
    I love Big Agnes' gear. I have their Big creek 30 sleeping bag, and the Q Core SLX Ultralight sleeping pad. Not cheap, but top notch quality.
    Thanks for the review guys.
    Hope all is well Tim.

  • @improbablehandle
    @improbablehandle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you keep in shape? Is the riding and pottering around camp enough, or are there any exercise routines you go through? Yoga comes to mind.

  • @GreenString
    @GreenString 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tim, just ordered the Kindle version of your book on Amazon Germany. Found it straight away with no problems. Just thought I’d let you know. Ironically I’m on the chapter about tents...

  • @boseisgood
    @boseisgood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video, thanks Tim and Cody.

  • @BornAGoon
    @BornAGoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that tent I been using the Alps Mountaineering Lynx 1 but Im looking to add a 2p tent. Thanks for the review

  • @CaptMaxADV
    @CaptMaxADV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you happen to catch my review of this tent for having on my R1200GSA? Was hoping I might have inspired you! After Cody had inspired me to get mine!

  • @HappyPlaceCamping
    @HappyPlaceCamping 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow the tent looked really big sitting behind you, but standing next to it made it look so small lol. Think motorcycle camping is so interesting. Wasn't really too long ago that I discovered that it's a thing for many people. Great review of the tent.

  • @CipoCat6
    @CipoCat6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you put the pole through the footprint gromet before the tent gromet it keeps the footprint attached to the tent if want to move it. I love my BA sleeping pad, but prefer the Nemo tents.

  • @zylko78
    @zylko78 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would consider naturehike mongar 2, especially for the beginning. It’s similar design (2 doors/vestibules) which is a great one for me, good quality used it for ca 30 camp nights, 1,8kg with included footprint, packs into 40x20x15cm bag, so it fits into soft or hard Panier, does not leak (well tested) and its ca 120€. The biggest downside of it, is a single pole in the middle/top part, however turned to be sturdy, I would prefer to have the two poles all the way corner to corner. Really good value!

  • @floydlivingston6762
    @floydlivingston6762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good bike tent is a major deal. I have been Through a few of them. I’ve seen your other tent Reviews I’m trying out a hyke & byke this summer. This tent is on my list if the other doesn’t work out

  • @ottomatic7823
    @ottomatic7823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in the 80's I had a Moss Winter Olympic tent. It was wonderful. Now in my late 60's I have to decide between Holiday Inn Express or Drury Inn. Two queens or king? Is the toilet ADA compliant?

  • @kuhndj67
    @kuhndj67 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm also a Big Agnes fan... I have a couple year old design that's very close to the Copper Spur HV UL2 MtnGlo (looks like some of the pole mount point designs are changed. I have a number of 1p & 2p tents from hiking but the Big Agnes is my go to tent for touring. Great tent. The MtnGlo thing is a BIT gimmicky but I've definitely used it (nice to not have to wear a headlamp in the tent sometimes).

  • @thomasbrun8695
    @thomasbrun8695 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out the lanshan 2 tent. Under 1 lb. packs way smaller .....only carry 1 pole and far less expensive. UL backpacking has some crazy cool stuff. Good review on the BA.

    • @DannyB-cs9vx
      @DannyB-cs9vx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Lanshan is not free standing.

  • @ronharshfield6771
    @ronharshfield6771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice reviewTim! So haven't been able to go camping this year yet, but still love my Redverz Atacama.. other than the packed size and weight :-(

    • @patrickcooper9641
      @patrickcooper9641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have had the Atacama for 6 years now and used it to it's max all over the world with my GSA. Last year I switch to the Redverz Hawk II and I absolutely love it. Packs small and indestructible 4 seasons. I have used the BA, Marmot and MSR Hubah Hubah all great and solid tents. I still use the Atacama if the sweetheart comes along because it's very comfortable for the 2 of us. Great review Tim as always. Cheers

  • @daveaver
    @daveaver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tim and Cody- great review. A little too pricey for me but looks like a good tent.
    Sister and Brother in law looking for one for bicycle camping, I’ll pass on.

  • @tennyis28
    @tennyis28 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just ordered the 3 person version, packs to almost the same size so why not

  • @Hwkeye505
    @Hwkeye505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So between this and the Lone rider what would you recommend?

  • @donmartin9567
    @donmartin9567 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being a backpacker, you get what you pay for. Yup, Big Agnes tents are not cheap but nor are any quality tents.
    Something that Big Agnes does that I haven't seen in other tents is when it is raining, you can put down the footprint, attach the poles and then the fly on and dry out the inside footprint if it got wet and then put up your tent inside, staying dry!. Not sure if the Bikepacking version supports this or not as it wasn't mentioned.

  • @LawrenceBroussard
    @LawrenceBroussard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That added space would be nice, but wow the price.

  • @TheGeoDaddy
    @TheGeoDaddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Planing my first “Long Way Somewhere” on my 1200GS (2010) and I’m looking to upgrade the Butt Killer OEM; Sargent, Russel or ???

  • @roebucksadventure
    @roebucksadventure ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you set up the fly first then the enter tent? That way if it’s raining you can keep the main tent dry

  • @Steve-yu6pq
    @Steve-yu6pq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey Tim, I know this was a made a few years ago.... are you still using this tent or did you go with something else?

  • @vincentkeith5259
    @vincentkeith5259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any experience with this tent in heavy Wind?

  • @TechnMoto
    @TechnMoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review

  • @abcusa123mich
    @abcusa123mich 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How easy (or hard) is it to stuff back into the packing bag?

  • @rcfiftyone9467
    @rcfiftyone9467 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to go from Ohio to la I want to go over the Rockies south of i70 but not on 70 riding street glide any advice would be appreciated I trust your judgment thanks

  • @ArizonaAdv
    @ArizonaAdv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's awesome i think another important consideration for me is how much are you going to use the tent. if you are using it A LOT i think that would justify the price . If not that much i say stick with the cheap tents. Thanks .for the review .""RIDE ON""

  • @johndewey316
    @johndewey316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the pack size noticeably smaller than the Kelty TN2 you used? I've had the TN2 for 5 years now (around 200 nights in it and it is now held together with duct tape), and this was on my short list of tents to upgrade to.

  • @markschwarzbauer4555
    @markschwarzbauer4555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks guys for the review. Do any of you know of a similar tent with dual doors, close in size, three season for less money? I enjoy motorcycle camping. However, I can't justify paying that much for my next tent.

    • @retiredtwotiredtraveler
      @retiredtwotiredtraveler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You might want to check out the REI Half Dome 2 Plus. I've been very happy with it.

  • @charleshennings5134
    @charleshennings5134 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm probably just gonna stick with my hammock lol this campsite looks so peaceful right now tho

    • @geoffrey5493
      @geoffrey5493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea Shred, I love my hammock. just have to figure insulation for the bottom,
      winter is a coming.

  • @garyo4456
    @garyo4456 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI - It’s “fragile”!! I accidentally sat on the entry bathtub floor....and in less then the blink of an eye the pole closest too me snapped towards the top and effectively cut the inner tent and the outer rainfly!! If the bathtub floor wasn’t so tall it would have been a non-issue. DONT PUT PRESSURE ON ENTRY FABRIC!! Prior to it’s explosive demise I had several occasions where I sat on the fabric door and the noseeum mesh easily tore holes. I run Hilleberg tents now and although more expensive...it’s well worth the additional sums for 4 season duarability!! You do get what you pay for!!

  • @simonsutherland15
    @simonsutherland15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to know if either if you have tried it in high winds?

    • @FTAAdventures
      @FTAAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not yet but I suspect it will perform well in high winds. It’s a pretty sturdy tent and there are guy out loops on it.

    • @simonsutherland15
      @simonsutherland15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FTAAdventures So, FWIW i ended up grabbing one and camping in J tree last month, the last day we had some serious gusting. Got up to at least 20mph. Initially i set it up with only 6 stakes...and it flattened in the high gusts but bounced back. At that point we ran out all the mid wall guys, and staked them and it held up the rest of the night with no further issues. TLDR if high wind make sure you guy it, but its fine up to at least 20mph

  • @TheGeoDaddy
    @TheGeoDaddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazon had a lot of Negative reviews (for an expensive tent) from tears, to zippers to tent poles breaking???

  • @robsadler5605
    @robsadler5605 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the gear videos Tim :)

  • @DanielMartinez-vj6wd
    @DanielMartinez-vj6wd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you want an ultralight tent if you ride a motorcycle?

  • @jimwortham8634
    @jimwortham8634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Complete lost interest when I heard price to a lot of camping just bought Eureka Backcountry tent good 2 man tent easy to get in and out of love Martin two hundred bucks

  • @drzrider3440
    @drzrider3440 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sup guys. Took both your videos of the IDBDR, changed my mind fromdoing Sturgis, to doing the IBDR solo. How did I lile it? Well next yr im going north to south, then turn around and ride it back north to the top. Yeah that much. Anyway, really like the short poles...but gotta say I love my Nemo Galaxy 2P tent. Specially since I picked it up for only $130. Best tent in my life time. Tim, you should check ot out too...i think they may have updated it and changed its name now. But man, great tent. Its nearly the same tent as that, but not the nice short poles. Oh yeah, and doesnt have the add on features. Bit worth a look since I know you like Nemo.

  • @BigBambooBong
    @BigBambooBong 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strong Light Cheap... Oftentimes, you can only pick two.

  • @boblindner5808
    @boblindner5808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any manufacturers description of a tent being "one man" or "two man" etc. have to be taken with a grain of salt. Road tripping on a motorcycle means you're taking a lot of gear you might want off the bike and in your tent for convenience/protection. Always consider a bigger tent than the description. Also, packing the poles separate from the tent opens up a world of possibilities. Even with a tarp and a ground cloth, most tents fabrics alone can pack into a small ball, then get a bag for the poles even if they're not the 12" compact size of this model.
    Big Agnes makes top quality gear, so the zippers, sewing, material quality won't let you down. If I was starting from scratch, I'd probably strongly consider this model with the vestibule and the lights etc. That said, I'll probably wait until my current moto camping tent (3 person tent, but me and my road gear snugly fit) wears out.
    For riders who haven't tent camped before, just take the tent you have or borrow one, and bring a notebook. After a couple of nights out in the field, you'll have a laundry list of things that work or need to be factored into your next adventure. You may just step up to the Copper Spur. Just a few nights away from a hotel will pay for it.

    • @firesail6707
      @firesail6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx for the helpful comments. Good review from Tim and Cody.

  • @skiphalbakken859
    @skiphalbakken859 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Yeah, this is one of my dream tents. My only gripe is the price. But the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. Ride safe my two wheeled friend ✊️👊✊️👊

  • @coachron3524
    @coachron3524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You lost me at the price. Maybe I’m just cheap and or practical but it’s too expensive for me to justify.

  • @aussiewantok
    @aussiewantok 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello infomercial

  • @TheKillo101
    @TheKillo101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cool but...
    I'll buy a 30 dollar tent until it craters and then?
    Buy another 30 dollar tent.
    I love quality but there's a point when quality and dollars vs common sense? Separate.

    • @jeeves6490
      @jeeves6490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some truth to that.
      Problem is that the difference usually shows up when it's really, really important.
      Left more than one cheaper tent behind in the rubbish bin because the wind alone had destroyed it.
      Also gotten up in the morning and seen many destroyed tents and people sleeping in their cars before sorting their wet, soaked gear.
      Storm had woken me, I rolled over and zipped down the vestibule, drifted right off back to sleep after double checking the interior.
      Best $300 bucks I ever spent, Big Agnes Blacktail 2.
      G'day from Oz.

  • @mikejw58
    @mikejw58 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if you ever considered hammock camping.

  • @ShineBright__
    @ShineBright__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I disagree with this tent also isn't worth it for the money !!