Best review I have seen on this tent. Great tips with awning in the rain and the hiking poles in the wind - I haven't seen this shown anywhere else on youtube. Excellent. I really enjoyed your presentation :)
I live near Virginia's Blue Ridge mountains, a beautiful place for hiking, but rarely take advantage of the location beyond two to four-mile afternoon walks in one city, state or national park or another, or tent-and-car-camping at fiddle-music festivals. But somehow I stumbled on this video and find it lovely and informative and wanted to thank you for making it. Such attention to detail and care and telling a story is very rare these days, no matter what the subject! Thank you. Maybe I will celebrate my 75th birthday by going for an overnight hike for the first time since my Boy Scout days. :-)
Hi Bob, wish i lived in Virginia, you have so beautiful nature. Karen and me have to drive 5 hours to get to this location. And thanks very much for your nice comment, it mens a lot to us. I hope you will get out and hike on your 75th birthday 💁😊🏕
I love this in-depth review and of course it invites me to take a closer look at this Big Agnes tent (even though I had promised my kids I wouldn’t go camping anymore these years, I can’t stop my adventurous heart). So Big Agnes come and help me to get into nature again after 3 pregnancies (even when it’s during a day hike with the fly and floor only). Thanks a lot for your dogma ‘95-style review. Very entertaining and friendly team!
Your 'real world use' tips are much appreciated. In this case how to use the awning in rain. I've had this tent for about a year and never even used the awning set-up because it seemed stupid in the rain. Your tip here makes so much sense!
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Thank you! By the way, here is maybe a tip from me to you: on my Copper Spur HV UL2, I never use the little annoying loops to tie the doors. I just move the corner of the door all the way over the side of the tent and attach the velcro on the bottom of the door to the velcro below the ventilation window. It can be tight, but it works.
Yours are the absolute BEST reviews. Truly first hand experiences. When I come to visit my good friend Swedwoods up there, maybe our paths will cross. Cheers from New York Hans.
Now that's what I call a review. I could see the appreciation of the gear through the love of cinematography. I was hesitant about choosing the copper spur against the Nemo Dagger, but I just made up my mind, going for the big agnes. Big thanks from Canada !
Well done excellent review and found the same annoying tie back points which are the same on the bike version too. Thanks for the the tips regarding the wind and rain. Liked your videos since the start.
Hi Hans and Karen! Thanks for the great review and the tip for increasing the wind stability with the trekking poles. Nevertheless a few questions remain. Up to which wind speed can you recommend the tent? Are you using a groundsheet and is it the one from big agnes? How do you avoid a wet inner while pitching in the rain? Thanks in advance and have great 2023 in the outdoor! Best regards! Alex
Hi Alex - thanks very much I don’t know the exact wind speed in the video and the thing with the trekking poles is more of an emergency arrangement - avoid the wind if you can. No groundsheet - I am thinking of weight. Just set up the tent fast - I have a video about it. Hope you can find it on my channel. Great hiking for you too, and stay safe ☺️
👍👍 Good job, and especially the repair segments. I was wondering about stretched out elastics. I have a 30 year old Sierra Carabo tent with that problem. I guess I can’t complain too much. They just got stretchy 5 years ago. Just bought BA’s Copper Spur Bikepack UL2. Looking forward to using it next week while moto camping. Thanks.
Interestingly we noticed the fabric has completely changed in the new one we stupidly purchased before we realized they were screwing us over. Clearly they know the last iteration was a failure and made changes. It happens but why hide it, admit it and warranty the failure like literally every one of their competitors does. So far Nemo is the winner for me. They repair their gear when possible at their own cost.
Fantastic review! I am 183 cm tall. Would it be enough room for me to lie down without having my head or feet touching the side walls of the tent? Do you think I could sit up inside the tent? Thank you so much for your time and effort with your videos. I realize you spend some serious time on shooting and editing.
Hi Andreas thanks for your nice feedback, it is very motivating with that kind of comments 😀 Yes there's room enough for your 183 cm and I think that Big Agnes now make at longer version of this tent - tjek it out - I could be the perfect tent for a tall gay like you, let me know how it turs out for you.
This has got to be the most thorough and well-structured tent review I've ever seen. I appreciate that you didn't just set it up in your backyard, or turn the video into a glorified trip vlog. A lot of really great insight that made my purchasing decision far easier!
Hi Hans and Karen! Always look forward to your trip and detailed gear videos…..this one had some surprise cinematic excursions that were very entertaining……at one point I thought you were going to be the victim of a murderous tent…..and just as I was starting to relax after that……you get attacked by blood thirsty mosquitos ! Thanks for the wild ride !!!
Hi Jesus - finally a subscriber ses my talent and appreciate our efforts ha ha - actually its the best feedback I ever got - took a screenshot of your comment and send it to Karen - she was happy and replied WTF very good.... thanks very much for the kind words - I makes me making more videos 💁😊
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Hans, do you have a PayPal account ? I would like to contribute something to support your future activities/videos. Thanks again for your efforts with humor and enlightenment !
Still on the fence about this tent for bikepacking but loved your honest review and relaxed style, a nice change from all the more ‘shouty’ type ones particularly from the land of their origin ;)
I've been looking for this type of review on this tent. Your in-depth discussion of the interior, particularly how the rainfly interacts with the doors, etc. is very informative and I've not seen elsewhere. This also piqued my interest for your other videos and they are equally as well done. I became a subscriber because of them.
Thank you! You guys are great. This tent was a huge upgrade from my previous REI Campdome 4 and has allowed my wife and I to explore more terrain while backpacking. I wish I was more comfortable with using guy lines and staking properly.
You guys are so lucky to be able to eat in your tents. In the US if we did that, we would be woken up by a bear crashing the tent and attacking us for food.
Excellent video. I wonder if you could replace the annoying toggle on the fly with a simple loop, like on the inside, or if that would flap too much in the wind.
Big Agnes used to be good. After three of their UL tents have leaked and fallen apart at the zippers, failed fly material etc in less than a year for one and two years for my previous one forget it. They don’t warranty a bloody thing either which is the most annoying part. Three tents all failed three times they tell me “normal wear and tear” clearly they no longer stand behind their product and the quality is just not there. I expect a 900 dollar tent to last more than three trips
That’s really a bad experience with BA customer service I have never been in need of service from BA If anyone have similar experience please right it in the comments section for this video
absolutely. It happened on three tents, all failed pieces. Zippers pulled away from the fabric, fly material failed on the last one. Stupidly we bought a third assuming they would warranty the second and because we were on a trip and tired of getting wet in the tent. They had me send it in, claimed it was normal and then wanted me to pay to have it sent back to me. Unbelievably poor customer service 😢 I’m a search and rescue guy, so I’m not new to the outdoors and certainly not to gear. Even with my pro discount their tents aren’t worth the money considering how quickly they fall apart now
IM looking at this tent for our motorcycle trips. So with the addition of two trekking poles, I think the added awning is a big plus if it can be used even during a rainstorm. That way you have a bit of ventilations still for those warmer trips when you get stuck in the rain. It also looked like it was fairly sturdy during wind . Has it held up well for yall?
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 I noticed they now have a “long “ version. 6 inches longer and 3 inches higher with only a minimal weight penalty. Looks perfect.
Thank you for the review Hans! I really like your content and presentation style with your daughter. I have another tent, but still am interested in two things: 1) what is the cloth that you use to dry the condensation in your tent, and 2) what are the tent lights? If they are not too heavy, then I am very interested! Thanks again.
Hi Josh - your opinion mens a lot to Karen and me - thanks very much 😊 1: it is a kitchen wash cloth - cheep, lightweight and dries in a flash. 2: mtnGLO Tent Camp Lights from Big Agnes - I makes a nice overview light in the tent - but not enough for sewing and repairs so you need to bring an other light source - hmm and it broke during the trip - ha ha - but here is a link: www.bigagnes.com/mtnGLO-Tent-Camp-Lights
Heya everyone . I’m trying to decide if I should get one of these for Glastonbury Festival to save some weight on my Outwell Earth 2. Do you think the exterior material and build in general is strong enough to cope with the occasional drunken festival goer tripping up on my guy ropes? Etc.
Thank you for the video. I believe it was very well done andone of the most honest and genuine reviews of the copper spur that i have seen. I just purchased a copper spur UL 2 for camping and backpacking. Your video was a big help. james
What a GREAT review. I JUST purchased this tent and it came in the mail today, YAY. Your video reinforced to me that I made the right choice. And BTW, you two are so sweet together. I have a dad daughter weekend backpacking trip coming up 2nd week in October. - You have so many cool hacks, or adds. I would love to see a list of those and some how-tos on those. Some Examples would be - What light string did you use in some of the clips? - What line and knots did you use to lengthen the stakes and or loops at the tiedown spots? - That bungy cloth rack was a great ideas. What toggle did you use to tighten it? Thanks and I have subscribed to your channel for more fun. Best to you both
Hello Todd - thanks very much glad that the video was helpful. The light string is from Big Agnes it was broken after the tent trip - I can not recommend it, and it is heavy. I don't know what the knots are called. Welcome to the channel 😎
i was hesitant on getting one because they say the pack size is 21" long and that wouldn't fit in a backpack, glad to see that it can fit after removing the poles
I hesitated for a long time between five models: the MSR feelite V3 3P, the Nemo Dagger 3P, the Exped Mira lll HL, the Sierra Designs Meteor 3 Lite and this Copper Spur. I quickly eliminated the MSR, which does not seem to be made to resist wind and rain. The Nemo, because of its slightly heavier weight, but it's a fortress in bad weather (I own the 2P model). The Exped is full of qualities (I owned the Mira ll HL), but in the 3p version it is narrower than its competitors. S.D.'s Meteor Lite is solidly made, with plenty of interior volume, and width, with a rectangular plan, not a trapezoid, but it is heavier. The purchase solution that brings together all the criteria of weight, volume and resistance to bad weather is therefore the Copper Spur 3P, which would be perfect if the width at the head and at the foot were identical. It's a large 2-person tent, but three people would be cramped there, and would have to use 51 cm wide mattresses. But I like to sleep on mattresses 64 or 65 cm wide to recover well from the efforts of the day... Thanks to your excellent review, I decided to order it...
Hi Laurent, can you tell me how well your Nemo dagger 2p performs in strong wind/rain? I'm going camping in Iceland in July and I was wondering if the dagger would be a good choice (my second option would be the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2)! Thanks in advance! :)
@@luciemarkova782 Hello Lucia, it's hard for me to tell you which tent will be the best in windy conditions. These two tents are very well designed, with quality materials., not too thin. I think they are both effective, especially if, in high winds, you use your walking poles to to prevent the frame from bending under gusts. Watch this video by Hans Kirk, which shows how to cleverly reinforce your tent in a very effective way against heavy winds, with only a few grams more material. You will only need a few meters of guylines and 4 extra pegs This tip should be known to all hikers! th-cam.com/video/tW0VXsxC8E0/w-d-xo.html. I've never had a sealing problem with the Nemo, totally waterproof... In terms of comfort, the Nemo has slightly larger apses, and I appreciate its rectangular dimensions on the bedroom floor, while the Big Agnes is narrower at the feet. I hope this can help you in your choice, Best regards, Laurent, Bordeaux, France
Good touch explaining that porch mode: loved the music & view, "You can set it up anywhere." Yes it is a bit big for me: 1p. I love my hammocks. It looks sturdy though: the BA CS. I might look at that 3 pole Tiger Wall too. Or maybe a trekking pole tent. I like the basic 2 dome poles too...like on a North Face. The hubbed ones seem like they are flopping everywhere. What tents do you now use? The short pole bikepack tents are nice. Thank you for showing the repair.
hi kirk I love your videos, I really like it when you leave pomegranate trees and you do your daily camping activities that teaches us a lot about what to do and how to do it on the trail, Since I've been following you I've been buying some of the gears you have, I use the BA Cooper Spun UL3 Bikepack, however recently I bought the Sea to Summit Telos TR3 and in my experience of the last 4 outings this store has been a genius for me in 3 seasons and with a snowfall and temperature down to -4 (nevado de toluca mexico iztacihualt 2400 masl approx I think, I would highly recommend it if you can try it, I have put aside my big agnes for many reasons. Well I just wanted to share something that you continue to have a full life, balances raphaele Mexico DF
Hi Rapaele from Mexico 🇲🇽 thanks for the kind words it mens a lot to me. I have been interested in Telos TR3 my self - is it better than the Copper Spur... I have head that it have excellent ventilation in the top of tent. And how does it preform in high winds - please let me know
UL3 is perfect for 2 people and the UL2 is perfect for one person. For one person, I like the UL2's two doors; one side for ingress and egress and the other for an equipment vestibule.
I'm thorn between the bikepack version of this and the Fjallraven abisko view 2. I want a reasonable short pole length (motocamping). The big Agnes has the space ( drying cloths in rain) but the Fjallraven has the view (in good weather), a better set-up system (during rain) and I have more confidence in the strength of the materials. Decisions decisions
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 thanks, I get it, lots of space but really compact when packed. Btw, a tunnel tent wouldn't be for me either, not the right tent for me. Btw, excellent review, really well done
Hello Hans Kirk and Daughter! Thank you very much for your excellent video which finally answers all of the questions I have had with such calm, reasonable, clarity. Specifically, I enjoyed seeing you dealing with guying a tent out in a real storm. In the short video clip you showed with a tent without employing the trekking poles when guying out the tent when the wind is blowing, it kind of looked like that tent was not guyed out at all? is that the case, or just an optical illusion on the video? Do you think it would be sufficient to extend the lines and guy out each point well-staked? (I ask because I don't usually walk with poles.). I also wonder if the fussy loops for rolling up the fly could be cut and spliced to make the loop bigger to remedy that complaint? you don't mention if the tent is one of the "mountain-glo" versions, but in the night-time it looks like you have some lights inside. is it a "mountain-glo"? (if so, that might account for the slightly higher weights you listed than I remember on the BA website...). I really like your clothesline as well. I have purchased this tent, and your video has been extremely useful to foresee issues that might arise, and was fun to watch, too. Thank you very much
I just watched the video which the clip of the tent in a windstorm came from. While I couldn't help noticing that there were, in the frame of the video, some dense woods and forest not too far away that might have made for a more protected campsite ;) This was very useful to see. I think Big Agnes should put videos like this on their website. the clips you show at the end of the trip with your wife where you are well above treeline makes a better example of when we find ourselves with no appropriate alternative than having to just hunker and wait it out (Like I frequently do in the High Sierra) and your trekking pole trick is one of the best arguments for carrying poles I've ever seen! thanks for sharing this experience, Hans. you can also disregard my previous question about it being a mountain glo tent/ weight difference, because I noticed you were reviewing the CS HV UL3 and I purchased the 2 which probably accounts for the heavier numbers. Thanks again!
Hi Michael - the tent was guided out in the storm, you can use a stick instead of trekking poles. It is a ekstra Mountain Glo lamp that I have bought.I don't think its possible to remove the loops for the doors. Glad that our video was helpfull - thanks very much for your reply.
Thanks so much for giving us two whole days of your life in this tent! So entertaining and useful. I own three of these in 2P, used as solo shelters. This year will be my first with the awning system. Your much appreciated info on rainy day setup will be put to good use soon. I don’t take trekking poles on canoe tours, so this year I will experiment with using trees and dead branches to stake out the awnings for brewing up in the rain, using extra line I always bring for my tarp setup. Cannot agree more about the fly doors problem. On cold wet nights, it is no fun getting out of this tent and back in again. Driving and/or pounding rain will mean taking down the awnings (because muddy water will splash back into the tent), and so I hope BA solves this issue soon … with a retrofitting solution! Hopefully they will offer intro you first for testing. Once again thanks for this gold star review of a very liveable tent.
Hi Suzanne thanks for your message, glad the video was helpful and I also hope that BA would improve the doors, it could be a magnet solution, other tent manufacturers use it 💁🏼♂️🙂
Great video! I'm just starting to get into backpacking and your videos have been very helpful for me to learn. I just bought this tent. How long do you recommend the guylines should be to support the tent? It seems I need to purchase longer cords and then cut the guyline lengths myself? Thanks for your help!
Just discovered your channel. Really enjoying the videos. The music choice, your voice tone, sense of humor, etc. I enjoy your videos so much that I watch even the videos about products I don't care about. Pease keep making videos! =]
Great video! One thing I'd like to check - fly of the previous version of Copper Spur was soaking quite a lot of water during rain and was getting quite heavier and hard to pack. Does this version have similar issue? And if so, how bad is it comparing to some other tents you've used?
Hi B it is not soaking water - off course it gets wet but it is not at problem. They use a now material on the 2020 edition. Thanks for your feedback 😊
GREAT & complete review! Very useful... Thank you! I hesitated for a long time between five models: the MSR feelite V3 3P, the Nemo Dagger 3P, the Exped Mira lll HL, the Sierra Designs Meteor 3 Lite and this Copper Spur. I quickly eliminated the MSR, which does not seem to be made to resist wind and rain. The Nemo, because of its slightly heavier weight, but it's a fortress in bad weather (I own the 2P model). The Exped is full of qualities (I owned the Mira ll HL), but in the 3p version it is narrower than its competitors. S.D.'s Meteor Lite is solidly made, with plenty of interior volume, and width, with a rectangular plan, not a trapezoid, but it is heavier. The purchase solution that brings together all the criteria of weight, volume and resistance to bad weather is therefore the Copper Spur 3P, which would be perfect if the width at the head and at the foot were identical. It's a large 2-person tent, but three people would be cramped there, and would have to use 51 cm wide mattresses. But I like to sleep on mattresses 64 or 65 cm wide to recover well from the efforts of the day... Thanks to your excellent review, I decided to order it...
Hi Laurent I must say that you have made your homework 📚 glad my video was helpful in the process of getting a new tent 🏕 and thanks for the nice feedback 😀
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Hi Hans, thank you for your response to my comment. I've been camping in the mountains since 1978 (Pyrenees and Alps), and I've used a dozen tents, fortunately becoming lighter as I get older (72 years now). Some people race ultralight gear, but experience has taught me that you shouldn't give up comfort and solidity, even if it means carrying a slightly heavier bag... Like you, I found tips to improve the wind resistance of some tents, but yours, with the two walking poles, is by far the best, well done! Cordially, Laurent
Perfect timing thank you - I'm looking at the Big Agnes CS HV UL 3 as an extra roomy 1 person tent now - wish I could actually see the UL 2 interior tho
I have the 2 in olive 🫒 It's lighter than the 3 obviously, and also isn't the best in breezy weather but can easily be fixed using walking poles. I find the zips can get caught in the fabric so I need to run my finger down with it. Great room inside for one, great 👍🏻 Even good for two using the vestibules for storage and the overhead pockets are really good. I opted for the ground sheet as well. Good choice for various reasons. Light, spacious, roomy tent. Love it!
Yes I have a Fjellrven tent but I don’t use it - even in the mountains the Big Agnes is much better and lighter in really strong winds a tunnel tent is better
Best review I have seen on this tent. Great tips with awning in the rain and the hiking poles in the wind - I haven't seen this shown anywhere else on youtube. Excellent. I really enjoyed your presentation :)
Thanks very much Sharian - it is nice with that kind of feedback 😀
I live near Virginia's Blue Ridge mountains, a beautiful place for hiking, but rarely take advantage of the location beyond two to four-mile afternoon walks in one city, state or national park or another, or tent-and-car-camping at fiddle-music festivals.
But somehow I stumbled on this video and find it lovely and informative and wanted to thank you for making it. Such attention to detail and care and telling a story is very rare these days, no matter what the subject! Thank you.
Maybe I will celebrate my 75th birthday by going for an overnight hike for the first time since my Boy Scout days.
:-)
Hi Bob, wish i lived in Virginia, you have so beautiful nature. Karen and me have to drive 5 hours to get to this location.
And thanks very much for your nice comment, it mens a lot to us.
I hope you will get out and hike on your 75th birthday 💁😊🏕
I love this in-depth review and of course it invites me to take a closer look at this Big Agnes tent (even though I had promised my kids I wouldn’t go camping anymore these years, I can’t stop my adventurous heart). So Big Agnes come and help me to get into nature again after 3 pregnancies (even when it’s during a day hike with the fly and floor only). Thanks a lot for your dogma ‘95-style review. Very entertaining and friendly team!
Hi Mathilde glad that you enjoyed my video and that it was helpful
Good luck with your hiking 🥾
Your 'real world use' tips are much appreciated. In this case how to use the awning in rain. I've had this tent for about a year and never even used the awning set-up because it seemed stupid in the rain. Your tip here makes so much sense!
Hi in the beginning I also thought it was a gimmick, as mentioned in the video - now I use it on a regular basis
Thanks for your comment 😊
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Thank you! By the way, here is maybe a tip from me to you: on my Copper Spur HV UL2, I never use the little annoying loops to tie the doors. I just move the corner of the door all the way over the side of the tent and attach the velcro on the bottom of the door to the velcro below the ventilation window. It can be tight, but it works.
Thanks for the tip I will try it
Yours are the absolute BEST reviews. Truly first hand experiences.
When I come to visit my good friend Swedwoods up there, maybe our paths will cross. Cheers from New York Hans.
Hi Yankee thanks so much - hope our paths will cross… you know what tent ⛺️ to look for
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Yeah... the one that looks just like my Big Agnes Copper Spur. 😊
Yes ha ha
Best tent reveiw I've ever seen, done correctly, Thank You!! I feel smarter now, having watched! Ty
Hi thanks a lot - glad it was helpfull 💁
Now that's what I call a review. I could see the appreciation of the gear through the love of cinematography. I was hesitant about choosing the copper spur against the Nemo Dagger, but I just made up my mind, going for the big agnes.
Big thanks from Canada !
Thanks so much for your nice comment, hope you will enjoy this great tent. ⛺️
This is such a nice and informative review you made there. Stunning shots as well in between 👌🏻
Hello Supersookify, thanks for your response - 😊💁
Well done excellent review and found the same annoying tie back points which are the same on the bike version too. Thanks for the the tips regarding the wind and rain. Liked your videos since the start.
Hi Glen thanks so much for your kind comment - yes it’s really annoying but no tent is perfect
Hi Hans and Karen!
Thanks for the great review and the tip for increasing the wind stability with the trekking poles. Nevertheless a few questions remain.
Up to which wind speed can you recommend the tent?
Are you using a groundsheet and is it the one from big agnes?
How do you avoid a wet inner while pitching in the rain?
Thanks in advance and have great 2023 in the outdoor! Best regards! Alex
Hi Alex - thanks very much
I don’t know the exact wind speed in the video and the thing with the trekking poles is more of an emergency arrangement - avoid the wind if you can.
No groundsheet - I am thinking of weight.
Just set up the tent fast - I have a video about it. Hope you can find it on my channel.
Great hiking for you too, and stay safe ☺️
The best review i have seen of this tent
Thanks very much 🙂
👍👍 Good job, and especially the repair segments. I was wondering about stretched out elastics. I have a 30 year old Sierra Carabo tent with that problem. I guess I can’t complain too much. They just got stretchy 5 years ago. Just bought BA’s Copper Spur Bikepack UL2. Looking forward to using it next week while moto camping. Thanks.
Hi Dennis congratulations with the new tent - yes the elastic will not last forever 😊
appreciate the detailed review.
Hi Sara - thanks very much
Interestingly we noticed the fabric has completely changed in the new one we stupidly purchased before we realized they were screwing us over. Clearly they know the last iteration was a failure and made changes. It happens but why hide it, admit it and warranty the failure like literally every one of their competitors does. So far Nemo is the winner for me. They repair their gear when possible at their own cost.
If you have a premium product to a premium price it should be seen in your customer service, otherwise there’s no justification for the high price
Are you saying the new material is better or worse?
really good comprehensive review
Hi Brian - thanks for the kind words 💁🏕😊
Hello, great review. Where did you get the lights and how did you set them up ?
Hi and thanks for your response - it’s a Big Agnes light and there’s some attachments points on the inner tent
Very helpful video. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Barnett - thanks very much 😀
Oh yeah thanks for a detailed and informative video
Hi Carpathiancossack - thanks very much, glad that the video was useful for you 😊
Fantastic review! I am 183 cm tall. Would it be enough room for me to lie down without having my head or feet touching the side walls of the tent? Do you think I could sit up inside the tent?
Thank you so much for your time and effort with your videos. I realize you spend some serious time on shooting and editing.
Hi Andreas thanks for your nice feedback, it is very motivating with that kind of comments 😀
Yes there's room enough for your 183 cm and I think that Big Agnes now make at longer version of this tent - tjek it out - I could be the perfect tent for a tall gay like you, let me know how it turs out for you.
Brilliant review, thanks!
Hi Joe, thanks a lot 😊
Great Review !!! Loved it and yes the outside door lock system sucks !! ;) I hate it !!
Hi John - thanks for the kind comment - yes door system does not work properly ⛺️😊
Excellent review. Thx.
Hi Mocarver - thanks very much 😀
What kind of backpack do you use?
Hi Kuzya sorry for the late response, I have been out hiking with my Zpack Ach Haul
You can set it up super easy with no stakes
yes you are right
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Hi 274 - hello Turkey 🇹🇷
Ive never had a problem opening and closing the rain fly. Must be you just being lazy
Yes I am lazy 😊
This is the gold standard of camping gear reviews. Thank you so much for all your efforts!
Hi His Nis - thanks so much 😃
This has got to be the most thorough and well-structured tent review I've ever seen. I appreciate that you didn't just set it up in your backyard, or turn the video into a glorified trip vlog. A lot of really great insight that made my purchasing decision far easier!
Hi Noah - much appreciated glad that the video was helpful, let me know what you decide 😊
Hi Hans and Karen! Always look forward to your trip and detailed gear videos…..this one had some surprise cinematic excursions that were very entertaining……at one point I thought you were going to be the victim of a murderous tent…..and just as I was starting to relax after that……you get attacked by blood thirsty mosquitos ! Thanks for the wild ride !!!
Hi Jesus - finally a subscriber ses my talent and appreciate our efforts ha ha - actually its the best feedback I ever got - took a screenshot of your comment and send it to Karen - she was happy and replied WTF very good.... thanks very much for the kind words - I makes me making more videos 💁😊
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Hans, do you have a PayPal account ? I would like to contribute something to support your future activities/videos. Thanks again for your efforts with humor and enlightenment !
To be honest we have only used the new tent once it looks better ish but the last one looked amazing when new too
Ok thanks for your input
This video convinced me to buy this tent, and after 6 months of use in some British conditions, I can confirm that the word of Hans Kirk is gospel!
Thanks very much Spaghettiman and congratulations with your tent
Still on the fence about this tent for bikepacking but loved your honest review and relaxed style, a nice change from all the more ‘shouty’ type ones particularly from the land of their origin ;)
Hi - thanks so much for the nice comment.
It’s a good ⛺️
I've been looking for this type of review on this tent. Your in-depth discussion of the interior, particularly how the rainfly interacts with the doors, etc. is very informative and I've not seen elsewhere. This also piqued my interest for your other videos and they are equally as well done. I became a subscriber because of them.
Hi David, thanks very much for your feedback it means a lot to me with your opinion, and welcome to the channel 😃
Thank you! You guys are great. This tent was a huge upgrade from my previous REI Campdome 4 and has allowed my wife and I to explore more terrain while backpacking. I wish I was more comfortable with using guy lines and staking properly.
Hi dtrainw I don’t know that tent from REI - yes the guylines and stakes can be a hassle
You guys are so lucky to be able to eat in your tents. In the US if we did that, we would be woken up by a bear crashing the tent and attacking us for food.
Hi Sparky you are right and we appreciate it - thanks for your comment
Dang those are nice pictures: the night & moon, the trees & cliffs. What cameras were used? Sorry if this was answered. Tiny phone screen here.
Panasonic G 80/85
Excellent video. I wonder if you could replace the annoying toggle on the fly with a simple loop, like on the inside, or if that would flap too much in the wind.
Hello Blue Noser Boy thanks very much. What a great idea 💡 I will definitely try it out 😊😊
Hi, thanks for a great video! At 11:18 what camp spot is that. Was hoping to visit it next time I am in Sweden :)
Hi Anders thanks for your compliment
It’s on a trail called; “Sevedeleden”
4 hours drive from Copenhagen
lol going to have to stop by kitridge and see if they still have those thermometers.
😂 they have them
Good thorough review - I enjoy the two hosts
Hi Brian - thanks ...your opinion mens a lot to me 😊🏕
Big Agnes used to be good. After three of their UL tents have leaked and fallen apart at the zippers, failed fly material etc in less than a year for one and two years for my previous one forget it. They don’t warranty a bloody thing either which is the most annoying part. Three tents all failed three times they tell me “normal wear and tear” clearly they no longer stand behind their product and the quality is just not there. I expect a 900 dollar tent to last more than three trips
That’s really a bad experience with BA customer service
I have never been in need of service from BA
If anyone have similar experience please right it in the comments section for this video
absolutely. It happened on three tents, all failed pieces. Zippers pulled away from the fabric, fly material failed on the last one. Stupidly we bought a third assuming they would warranty the second and because we were on a trip and tired of getting wet in the tent. They had me send it in, claimed it was normal and then wanted me to pay to have it sent back to me. Unbelievably poor customer service 😢 I’m a search and rescue guy, so I’m not new to the outdoors and certainly not to gear. Even with my pro discount their tents aren’t worth the money considering how quickly they fall apart now
I agree that is unbelievable bad service 😞
I just tuck the fly door between the tent and the fly; I don't bother hooking it.
nice trick
I have the 1 person: do I keep it or find a different setup?
More space in the 2 person for a small weight penalty
Have you used the tent awnings to catch water when it's raining?
Hi Sara - no i have not - but you could 💁😊🏕
All those rubber bands throw the weight off. :) :)
Ha ha rubber bands 😂
IM looking at this tent for our motorcycle trips. So with the addition of two trekking poles, I think the added awning is a big plus if it can be used even during a rainstorm. That way you have a bit of ventilations still for those warmer trips when you get stuck in the rain. It also looked like it was fairly sturdy during wind . Has it held up well for yall?
I think it’s perfect for at motorcycle trip and a good idea to bring trekking poles also for storm protection - thanks for sharing your thoughts 💭
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 I noticed they now have a “long “ version. 6 inches longer and 3 inches higher with only a minimal weight penalty. Looks perfect.
If should by the tent again I would take the long version 😊
Thank you for the review Hans! I really like your content and presentation style with your daughter. I have another tent, but still am interested in two things: 1) what is the cloth that you use to dry the condensation in your tent, and 2) what are the tent lights? If they are not too heavy, then I am very interested! Thanks again.
Hi Josh - your opinion mens a lot to Karen and me - thanks very much 😊
1: it is a kitchen wash cloth - cheep, lightweight and dries in a flash.
2: mtnGLO Tent Camp Lights from Big Agnes - I makes a nice overview light in the tent - but not enough for sewing and repairs so you need to bring an other light source - hmm and it broke during the trip - ha ha - but here is a link:
www.bigagnes.com/mtnGLO-Tent-Camp-Lights
Heya everyone . I’m trying to decide if I should get one of these for Glastonbury Festival to save some weight on my Outwell Earth 2. Do you think the exterior material and build in general is strong enough to cope with the occasional drunken festival goer tripping up on my guy ropes? Etc.
Bad idea..... the outer material is very delicate and thin
Thank you.
Thank you for the video. I believe it was very well done andone of the most honest and genuine reviews of the copper spur that i have seen. I just purchased a copper spur UL 2 for camping and backpacking. Your video was a big help.
james
Hello James - thanks very much and congratulations with your new tent 🏕😊
How do you like your tent 3 months on?
Thank you. Great video.
Never thought a review can be so relaxing. Thanks for all the details and energy you put in this video, subsribed. Loved it, from Latvia.
Hello Sandis, glad that you liked the video - comments like your mens a lot to me - thanks
Its crazy how after 3 years this video is still very relevant to me. Just picked up a Copper Spur because of you guys! Very well made video!
Thanks so much… Big Agnes should send me a free tent 😂
2:20 ... ha ha ha!....the 'dramatic music! Lol!
It was dramatic ha ha ha
One of the best tent reviews I have seen Thank-you.
Hi Judy thanks 😀
What a GREAT review. I JUST purchased this tent and it came in the mail today, YAY. Your video reinforced to me that I made the right choice. And BTW, you two are so sweet together. I have a dad daughter weekend backpacking trip coming up 2nd week in October. - You have so many cool hacks, or adds. I would love to see a list of those and some how-tos on those. Some Examples would be - What light string did you use in some of the clips? - What line and knots did you use to lengthen the stakes and or loops at the tiedown spots? - That bungy cloth rack was a great ideas. What toggle did you use to tighten it? Thanks and I have subscribed to your channel for more fun. Best to you both
Hello Todd - thanks very much glad that the video was helpful. The light string is from Big Agnes it was broken after the tent trip - I can not recommend it, and it is heavy. I don't know what the knots are called. Welcome to the channel 😎
Excellent thank you! I just bought this tent for upcoming season!
Hi Jon thank you and good luck with your new ⛺️
i was hesitant on getting one because they say the pack size is 21" long and that wouldn't fit in a backpack, glad to see that it can fit after removing the poles
Hi Bryce glad too hear that my video made a difference 💁
I hesitated for a long time between five models: the MSR feelite V3 3P, the Nemo Dagger 3P, the Exped Mira lll HL, the Sierra Designs Meteor 3 Lite and this Copper Spur.
I quickly eliminated the MSR, which does not seem to be made to resist wind and rain.
The Nemo, because of its slightly heavier weight, but it's a fortress in bad weather (I own the 2P model).
The Exped is full of qualities (I owned the Mira ll HL), but in the 3p version it is narrower than its competitors.
S.D.'s Meteor Lite is solidly made, with plenty of interior volume, and width, with a rectangular plan, not a trapezoid, but it is heavier.
The purchase solution that brings together all the criteria of weight, volume and resistance to bad weather is therefore the Copper Spur 3P, which would be perfect if the width at the head and at the foot were identical.
It's a large 2-person tent, but three people would be cramped there, and would have to use 51 cm wide mattresses. But I like to sleep on mattresses 64 or 65 cm wide to recover well from the efforts of the day...
Thanks to your excellent review, I decided to order it...
Best of luck to you 😀
Hi Laurent, can you tell me how well your Nemo dagger 2p performs in strong wind/rain? I'm going camping in Iceland in July and I was wondering if the dagger would be a good choice (my second option would be the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2)!
Thanks in advance! :)
@@luciemarkova782 Hello Lucia,
it's hard for me to tell you which tent will be the best in windy conditions. These two tents are very well designed, with quality materials., not too thin.
I think they are both effective, especially if, in high winds, you use your walking poles to to prevent the frame from bending under gusts.
Watch this video by Hans Kirk, which shows how to cleverly reinforce your tent in a very effective way against heavy winds, with only a few grams more material.
You will only need a few meters of guylines and 4 extra pegs
This tip should be known to all hikers!
th-cam.com/video/tW0VXsxC8E0/w-d-xo.html.
I've never had a sealing problem with the Nemo, totally waterproof...
In terms of comfort, the Nemo has slightly larger apses, and I appreciate its rectangular dimensions on the bedroom floor, while the Big Agnes is narrower at the feet.
I hope this can help you in your choice,
Best regards,
Laurent,
Bordeaux, France
Good touch explaining that porch mode: loved the music & view, "You can set it up anywhere."
Yes it is a bit big for me: 1p. I love my hammocks.
It looks sturdy though: the BA CS. I might look at that 3 pole Tiger Wall too. Or maybe a trekking pole tent.
I like the basic 2 dome poles too...like on a North Face. The hubbed ones seem like they are flopping everywhere.
What tents do you now use?
The short pole bikepack tents are nice.
Thank you for showing the repair.
Hi - thanks very much for your feedback, the Tiger Wall is definitely on my list 😀
hi kirk
I love your videos, I really like it when you leave pomegranate trees and you do your daily camping activities that teaches us a lot about what to do and how to do it on the trail,
Since I've been following you I've been buying some of the gears you have, I use the BA Cooper Spun UL3 Bikepack, however recently I bought the Sea to Summit Telos TR3 and in my experience of the last 4 outings this store has been a genius for me in 3 seasons and with a snowfall and temperature down to -4 (nevado de toluca mexico iztacihualt 2400 masl approx I think, I would highly recommend it if you can try it, I have put aside my big agnes for many reasons.
Well I just wanted to share something
that you continue to have a full life, balances
raphaele
Mexico DF
Hi Rapaele from Mexico 🇲🇽 thanks for the kind words it mens a lot to me. I have been interested in Telos TR3 my self - is it better than the Copper Spur... I have head that it have excellent ventilation in the top of tent. And how does it preform in high winds - please let me know
UL3 is perfect for 2 people and the UL2 is perfect for one person. For one person, I like the UL2's two doors; one side for ingress and egress and the other for an equipment vestibule.
Hi Iviewthetube - yes you are right, I am considering buying the UL2 for solo hikes
Thanks for the thorough reviews! You just earn more than a subscriber because I just shared this channel! Well done!
Hi TH-cam Playlist, thanks and very appreciated 💁😊
This is the best outdoor gear review I've ever seen
Hello Teath what a nice comment - I have put a lot of work into this video - glad you liked it 😊🏕
I'm thorn between the bikepack version of this and the Fjallraven abisko view 2. I want a reasonable short pole length (motocamping). The big Agnes has the space ( drying cloths in rain) but the Fjallraven has the view (in good weather), a better set-up system (during rain) and I have more confidence in the strength of the materials. Decisions decisions
Hi Deaiscarlet, i have Fjälljraven Abisko Shape 3, I never use it - the Copper Spur is much better with its interior space.
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 thanks, I get it, lots of space but really compact when packed. Btw, a tunnel tent wouldn't be for me either, not the right tent for me.
Btw, excellent review, really well done
Just to let you know I got the Big Agnes CS 3 bikepack yesterday.
Congratulations - hope it will work out for you
Awesome review.
Would you buy it again?
If not what would you try instead?
Hi Minemetsa - thanks very much - yes I would, and I am glad that I bought the 3 person version for 2 person use 💁🏕
Hello Hans Kirk and Daughter! Thank you very much for your excellent video which finally answers all of the questions I have had with such calm, reasonable, clarity. Specifically, I enjoyed seeing you dealing with guying a tent out in a real storm. In the short video clip you showed with a tent without employing the trekking poles when guying out the tent when the wind is blowing, it kind of looked like that tent was not guyed out at all? is that the case, or just an optical illusion on the video? Do you think it would be sufficient to extend the lines and guy out each point well-staked? (I ask because I don't usually walk with poles.). I also wonder if the fussy loops for rolling up the fly could be cut and spliced to make the loop bigger to remedy that complaint? you don't mention if the tent is one of the "mountain-glo" versions, but in the night-time it looks like you have some lights inside. is it a "mountain-glo"? (if so, that might account for the slightly higher weights you listed than I remember on the BA website...). I really like your clothesline as well. I have purchased this tent, and your video has been extremely useful to foresee issues that might arise, and was fun to watch, too. Thank you very much
I just watched the video which the clip of the tent in a windstorm came from. While I couldn't help noticing that there were, in the frame of the video, some dense woods and forest not too far away that might have made for a more protected campsite ;) This was very useful to see. I think Big Agnes should put videos like this on their website. the clips you show at the end of the trip with your wife where you are well above treeline makes a better example of when we find ourselves with no appropriate alternative than having to just hunker and wait it out (Like I frequently do in the High Sierra) and your trekking pole trick is one of the best arguments for carrying poles I've ever seen! thanks for sharing this experience, Hans. you can also disregard my previous question about it being a mountain glo tent/ weight difference, because I noticed you were reviewing the CS HV UL3 and I purchased the 2 which probably accounts for the heavier numbers. Thanks again!
Hi Michael - the tent was guided out in the storm, you can use a stick instead of trekking poles. It is a ekstra Mountain Glo lamp that I have bought.I don't think its possible to remove the loops for the doors. Glad that our video was helpfull - thanks very much for your reply.
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So well presented and you brought out alot of great ideas to overcome wind, repair and just spoke so well and slowly - thank you.
Hello Shilpa thanks very much - the reason why I speak slowly is that my English is not that good 💁😊
Thanks so much for giving us two whole days of your life in this tent! So entertaining and useful. I own three of these in 2P, used as solo shelters. This year will be my first with the awning system. Your much appreciated info on rainy day setup will be put to good use soon. I don’t take trekking poles on canoe tours, so this year I will experiment with using trees and dead branches to stake out the awnings for brewing up in the rain, using extra line I always bring for my tarp setup.
Cannot agree more about the fly doors problem. On cold wet nights, it is no fun getting out of this tent and back in again. Driving and/or pounding rain will mean taking down the awnings (because muddy water will splash back into the tent), and so I hope BA solves this issue soon … with a retrofitting solution! Hopefully they will offer intro you first for testing.
Once again thanks for this gold star review of a very liveable tent.
Hi Suzanne thanks for your message, glad the video was helpful and I also hope that BA would improve the doors, it could be a magnet solution, other tent manufacturers use it 💁🏼♂️🙂
Great video! I'm just starting to get into backpacking and your videos have been very helpful for me to learn. I just bought this tent. How long do you recommend the guylines should be to support the tent? It seems I need to purchase longer cords and then cut the guyline lengths myself? Thanks for your help!
Hello Joshua - thanks for the compliment - the cords on the tent is long enough in my opinion
Just discovered your channel. Really enjoying the videos. The music choice, your voice tone, sense of humor, etc. I enjoy your videos so much that I watch even the videos about products I don't care about. Pease keep making videos! =]
Hi Danimal - what a compliment, thanks very much. It’s comment like yours that keeps you going as an TH-camr 😊
Very well done video,really enjoyed it,please stay safe debs.x
Hallo Debs - thanks very much - your opinion mens a lot to me.
I wish they would take the hint and redesign the door toggle. It’s such a massive fail.
Hi k2that - you are so right 😀
Great reviews and great tips. Thank you for posting. Liked and subscribed!
Hello Scott - thanks very much - welcome to the channel 😊
so much joy to watch this video,tks
Hi Binlej - thanks very much 💁
Superb review Hans! I can see a huge effort has gone into this and I appreciate it very much.
Hi Soobz much appreciated with comments like yours 😃
Great video! One thing I'd like to check - fly of the previous version of Copper Spur was soaking quite a lot of water during rain and was getting quite heavier and hard to pack. Does this version have similar issue? And if so, how bad is it comparing to some other tents you've used?
Hi B it is not soaking water - off course it gets wet but it is not at problem. They use a now material on the 2020 edition.
Thanks for your feedback 😊
Best review I have found for this tent. Great presentation. Thank you. I learned a few things that I didn’t know about the tent.
Hi Stallides I’m very grateful for your comment 😀
Thanks a lot for this video👍. It is the best rewiev I saw on TH-cam. Great job.😊
Hi Tygr - thanks so much for your feedback much appreciated
Awesome review video. I found it extremely helpful. I am curious as to where you got those small outdoor mats?
Hi Snomanape, thanks very much, glad it was helpfull. It is called; Z Seat Thermaest 💁
I tied another piece of paracord on the loop for the toggle a small loop or ring to extend the loop so it’s easier to get loose and not so tight
Hi Brendan - that is a very good tip - thanks 💁🏕
Outstanding!
Thanks
Great review - and what a nice tent - like your attention to details😀
Hi Eva - thanks for the kind words💁😊🏕
What a great video! Didnt realize I could do an awning thing.
Thanks 😊 yes the awning thing is a great selling point
I thoroughly enjoy your videos! So well done and informative! Wonderful, thank you!
Hi Tabitha thanks for your very positive response 😀
Very cool review.. you spent some time making it unique! Fantastic
Hi Adrian, yes I spent some time making the video - and it was a fun experience - thanks very much 😃
Love this informative video and the humour thrown in :)
Hi Alex, thanks for your nice comment - glad that someone understands my kind of humor 😀
Well ive got the UL 2 and its freaking great. Its light wieght without being flimsy
Couldn’t agree more
Thanks for the video. It makes me want to come to Sweden
Hi Eric, you are welcome also in Sweden there is a lot of space 💁🏕
GREAT & complete review! Very useful... Thank you!
I hesitated for a long time between five models: the MSR feelite V3 3P, the Nemo Dagger 3P, the Exped Mira lll HL, the Sierra Designs Meteor 3 Lite and this Copper Spur.
I quickly eliminated the MSR, which does not seem to be made to resist wind and rain.
The Nemo, because of its slightly heavier weight, but it's a fortress in bad weather (I own the 2P model).
The Exped is full of qualities (I owned the Mira ll HL), but in the 3p version it is narrower than its competitors.
S.D.'s Meteor Lite is solidly made, with plenty of interior volume, and width, with a rectangular plan, not a trapezoid, but it is heavier.
The purchase solution that brings together all the criteria of weight, volume and resistance to bad weather is therefore the Copper Spur 3P, which would be perfect if the width at the head and at the foot were identical.
It's a large 2-person tent, but three people would be cramped there, and would have to use 51 cm wide mattresses. But I like to sleep on mattresses 64 or 65 cm wide to recover well from the efforts of the day...
Thanks to your excellent review, I decided to order it...
Hi Laurent I must say that you have made your homework 📚 glad my video was helpful in the process of getting a new tent 🏕 and thanks for the nice feedback 😀
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Hi Hans,
thank you for your response to my comment.
I've been camping in the mountains since 1978 (Pyrenees and Alps), and I've used a dozen tents, fortunately becoming lighter as I get older (72 years now).
Some people race ultralight gear, but experience has taught me that you shouldn't give up comfort and solidity, even if it means carrying a slightly heavier bag...
Like you, I found tips to improve the wind resistance of some tents, but yours, with the two walking poles, is by far the best, well done!
Cordially,
Laurent
Awesome review! Thanks so much!
Thanks very much CraigyPoo
Excellent video Hans.
Hi Joe - thanks very much your feedback is very valuable to me 💁
Brilliant awning setup fir the rain! Thx
Hi Hoser7, thanks - it really works 💁
Perfect timing thank you - I'm looking at the Big Agnes CS HV UL 3 as an extra roomy 1 person tent now - wish I could actually see the UL 2 interior tho
There should be lots of video about the 2 person tent on TH-cam 😊
I have the 2 in olive 🫒
It's lighter than the 3 obviously, and also isn't the best in breezy weather but can easily be fixed using walking poles. I find the zips can get caught in the fabric so I need to run my finger down with it.
Great room inside for one, great 👍🏻 Even good for two using the vestibules for storage and the overhead pockets are really good.
I opted for the ground sheet as well. Good choice for various reasons.
Light, spacious, roomy tent. Love it!
Nicely done! Thank you so much!
You are welcome G DP thanks 😊
Hvor er det en super god gennemgang af teltet! Plus gode trick. Tusinde tak
Hej Annika tak for dine pæne kommentarer, dejligt du fik noget ud af at se videoen 🙂
nice video, good review
Hello YC Huen, thanks very much
You didn’t invite me again!!!
Hmm you wanna come to 🇩🇰 or Sweden 🇸🇪?
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Someday!!!
Hi Matt - yes that could be nice 😊
A pleasure to watch this video. Nice tent and some super stuff. If I have to go hiking, I want Karen and you with me. ❤️
Thanks dear Connie - we got a deal - come with us to Sweden and we will take care of you and promise you a great nature experience 💜💁🏕
Thanks. A great offer.❤️.
You are welcome 🤗
So after saying it's not a mountain terrain tent, you still use it with the trekking poles? With those, would you say its fit for svenska fjällen?
Hi Hugo - i am just home from a hike in Sweden, I used the GG LT 5
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Very nice! But would you say Big Agnes Copper Spur tent works in the mountain ranges?
Yes I have a Fjellrven tent but I don’t use it - even in the mountains the Big Agnes is much better and lighter in really strong winds a tunnel tent is better
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 but the copper spur is not a tunnel tent? 😅
Ha ha
The best i have ever seen, thank you!
Hi Burkhard - thank for the best comment 😀