Didn't know the Devil Jin bug, that's hilarious! Incidentally, I once thought of a character who'd be too toxic for the game, but fun to mess around with, whose actual goal was to time out, and he'd have this bug as a planned feature (to fit with his theme though, the major chunk of damage is applied very early, and then there'd be goofy animations dealing minor damage while the clock ticks down).
my dragunov friend has been leaning on that b4,3 sooo hard for so long. He always complained about how "unga bunga" everyone he goes against in ranked is, but that string forced people to make hard reads and do wild things. Now, he is gonna have to actually open up his move list and learn how to hold me still first before he can start those particular mindgames. honestly though his B3,4 almost seems too weak to sidestep now, but that could just be bc it was Lili being used as the example xD but we will find out
CD4 still hits grounded. Hopefully, in the next balance patch... that will also go. I'm fine with it being a + on block heat dash launcher that tracks to his left, but the oki that move gives when it hits an opponent on the ground... it needs to go. Dragunov is still extremely powerful despite these nerfs.
@@bloodhunter2789bro is trying to justify tracking heat engager that is +7 on block lol. You either understand nothing about this game or you are sorry ass drag main who’s crying about logical nerfs
This character is synonymous with tekken 8. They'd have to completely remove heat and the whole "aggressive" thing they're going with if you want this character toned down
@@IAMOP True! He was in T7 like he is now in Tekken 8 and then Bandai completely killed him and made him bottom tier. Jack was the same, you couldnt watch a tournament without Jack and Drag
Regarding the heat smashes, why can't bamco do it for everyone across the board? I hate stepping a move but getting clipped at a 90+ ° angle because of random whatever.
Honestly Nina's WS3/23 should chain-throw on walled-opponents I would've loved that for Negan's crowbar throw (1+3) in Intimidation Stance to wallbreak
Careful with the modded outfits @I AM OP I dont know if Bamco is cool with them or nah. Better be on the safe side, in the videos at least. Very helpful Video as alwas otherwise! Appreciate your effort!
Y'know it's kinda funny, I've had devil jin's rage art bug work for me AND against me. Felt bad for a devil jin who got the rage art on me, but another one who actually used it to stall me out when we both recovered a decent amount of health while in rage.
I hope they make it so Alisa gives less grey health. She does damage but most of it is recoverable. I think that was the idea(high damage but very recoverable) but if they nerf her damage/ chip damage they need to give her something in return or she’ll end up like devil J
When the nerfs finally kills drag and nobody will use him will give peace to the people i rather wanted jin and devil jin to be nerfed drag already received alot of nerfs in streaks
They still didn’t fix people quitting on you and not getting the win. I jut uninstalled f this game ahead as a clown like I don’t like to waste my time and this is something that should be fixed. I got plugged on4 games in a row smh.
I hate the current age of video games with everyone calling for nerfs. I always say just buff everyone and everything else in a game to match instead. That’s more fun.
This 'buff everyone' mindset will eventually hit a ceiling where you can't go anywhere other than removing characters' key weaknesses, making everyone feel the same, or buffing everyone's damage to a ridiculous degree. Remember where T7 Season 3 got us with that mindset?
Tbf as much as I hate to say it I agree with you here as a drag main. I think the move is still too oppressive. The range yeah can stay but should be like +2 and +3 on block at tip range. I feel like it hitting grounded is a bit stupid but then again a lot of characters have mid moves that do hit grounded ( Kazuya, Yoshi just existing, Victor etc etc) but I think these nerfs are significant enough to at least warrant some none hatred towards dragunov now@@tropicar6942
@@tropicar6942 Who said it's not broken? But at this point you guys just want to remove the move completely, I wouldn't mind if it didn't hit grounded and if it only gave a mini follow up after heat dash, but you would still be here complaining about it's being super + on hit, and it's tracking.
Hi all, want to ask that since Dragonuv's b+43 has lost its tracking, which homing move should I use to track sidestep opponent instead? b3 is good but it's high, d2 is good but it's low, seems like there's move mid move that is fast and track sidestep opponent.
So Negan can have a long ass rage art and you have to SIT THERE while he does it while Devil Jin's rage art has the timer run so if you have the health lead when he hits you, you win?
That’s the problem with trying to “balancing” in these games. There will always be people unhappy. Badly they just want everyone else’s characters nerfed and theirs buffed.
I love how Namco has to accidentally nerf Devil Jin to buff him
Devil Jin mains will still rejoice.
Reverse cursed Technique 😂
They still didn't remember it i think lol, its far from being 3D rn
Nah , He heard the old man still havent dead yet so he back to welcome Heihachi into heaven door
I don’t think they want people to play devil Jin anymore with how they are handling him.
About time Namco remembered that Tekken is a THREE D game!
Tekken is 3
Tekken is D
Dragunov: "... and I'm one of those three, right?"
Falta muita ainda mas já é alguma coisa. Jogo tá cheio de golpe com rastreio
Now we can play actual Tekken in Drag vs Drag matchup, like we used to in T7.
But not vs the rest of the cast.
Or course he had to flex his qcf4 combo into the vid
Great. If they're gonna keep fixing tracking issues, Bryan's burst and smash finally gonna get fixed on Tekken 9 Beta release.
Yeah wtf is up with Bryan's heatburst still having full tracking lmao
@@furytheredhead he's a cyborg 🤖
Jin is still hiding in the shadows.
His d2 is hiding
What do you think should be nerfed on Jin ?
what are you talking about? jin is fair 😉
He's believing in his heart. ❤️
He want to live
Someone needs to do a comparison of launch Dragonov vs his 1.09 counterpart lol
0:00 That's how the whole game is since the start of T7. They should do this nerf not to Dragunov but to the whole game lmfao
Feng Wei, Yoshimitsu, and Jin Kazama are still at large.
Don’t forget Nina, need more Alisa nerfs too
Can't Forget Xiaoyu
Leave Yoshi alone 😭😭
Drag is still the best, he needs a lot more nerfs before he gets fair
Feng only really needs that air stomp in heat removed
It’s still is tekkenov 8 by the end of the day
Clown
@@genji4456goofball
I will never forget dragunov mains crying a few patches ago about how “NAMCO BANDAI HATES DRAGUNOV!!!” When his 14 hit combo did 5 less damage.
You gotta be putting these mods you use in each video in the description/comments, they look awesome
Don't want namcops after me
tekkenmods.com/mod/4800/tk-8-jun-lil-nun
This is the mod
THANK GOD THEY FIXED DRAGS B3,4 tracking. I got so pissed everytime I stepped it and the second hit connects
Didn't know the Devil Jin bug, that's hilarious! Incidentally, I once thought of a character who'd be too toxic for the game, but fun to mess around with, whose actual goal was to time out, and he'd have this bug as a planned feature (to fit with his theme though, the major chunk of damage is applied very early, and then there'd be goofy animations dealing minor damage while the clock ticks down).
is ridiculous some of the tracking Dragunov had before
my dragunov friend has been leaning on that b4,3 sooo hard for so long. He always complained about how "unga bunga" everyone he goes against in ranked is, but that string forced people to make hard reads and do wild things. Now, he is gonna have to actually open up his move list and learn how to hold me still first before he can start those particular mindgames.
honestly though his B3,4 almost seems too weak to sidestep now, but that could just be bc it was Lili being used as the example xD but we will find out
CD4 still hits grounded. Hopefully, in the next balance patch... that will also go. I'm fine with it being a + on block heat dash launcher that tracks to his left, but the oki that move gives when it hits an opponent on the ground... it needs to go. Dragunov is still extremely powerful despite these nerfs.
+7 on block is just mad considering he also has wr 2
That is just bad after nerfs, you complain about every char and gets nerfed to ground, next chars are waiting😂@@XeniLone
@@bloodhunter2789bro is trying to justify tracking heat engager that is +7 on block lol. You either understand nothing about this game or you are sorry ass drag main who’s crying about logical nerfs
@@XeniLone I forgot it was +7, if it was +4 then I would be happy.
Do you guys think we'll see dragunov less in tournaments now?
Still top 2 and people have put time into the character even if he's easy to use this game so probably.
This character is synonymous with tekken 8. They'd have to completely remove heat and the whole "aggressive" thing they're going with if you want this character toned down
Most likely
@@pretzels7437 funny thing is he was the same in Tekken 7 season 1 lol
@@IAMOP True! He was in T7 like he is now in Tekken 8 and then Bandai completely killed him and made him bottom tier. Jack was the same, you couldnt watch a tournament without Jack and Drag
1:00-1:10 badass combo!!! Reversed Bryan right back to the wall.
Tekken 6 temple grounds. Hell yeaha 🔥 great song choice
I dont know why b4,3 wasn't mentioned in the command list as "Homing Move". I am so happy with this correction.
Every buff to Devil Jin is always a bug fix, but you can bet he'll get another one to discover in this patch.
I got cucked by Dragunov tracking more than I can count... Including the booty hitbox on his rage art
They gotta put Heihachi's f+1+2 stun at +13 because the fact he can connect it with his Iron Hand is ridiculous. He has a 12-frame Heat Engager.
Omg they've finally nerfed Dragu b4, 3, i was waiting so much for this
Regarding the heat smashes, why can't bamco do it for everyone across the board? I hate stepping a move but getting clipped at a 90+ ° angle because of random whatever.
side note 😊that lily costume of yours looks so dope . classy and elegant!! great job dude
The dragunov changes are gonna benefit me a lot I struggle against him and I love to side step
King will forever be left alone
Honestly Nina's WS3/23 should chain-throw on walled-opponents I would've loved that for Negan's crowbar throw (1+3) in Intimidation Stance to wallbreak
Careful with the modded outfits @I AM OP I dont know if Bamco is cool with them or nah. Better be on the safe side, in the videos at least. Very helpful Video as alwas otherwise! Appreciate your effort!
Thanks dude 👍
Drag b4,3 looks like a huge nerf, need to play to test, but this makes me think it's not gunna be even close to as good
Y'know it's kinda funny, I've had devil jin's rage art bug work for me AND against me.
Felt bad for a devil jin who got the rage art on me, but another one who actually used it to stall me out when we both recovered a decent amount of health while in rage.
Yh, it's a double edged sword
That lili mod reminded me why I had a crush on her since tekken 5 😩
She's a minor, chief.
@ I was a minor when tekken 5 released bro. An actual minor too, like 9-10
@ and she’s canonically 18 so you’re wrong twice
@@moonalescaShe's also not real chief. Get that schizophrenia checked out
nice vid😊
Thank you for your video
This devil jin bug was the reason i lost so many matches
I dont know why but no one talk about Claudio damages.
Nice Video like always
lol that is the costume from the first descendant
2:20 what changed there, I dont see)
The install counter was not activated before patch
gyat damn that lili skin
Forgot about the Heihachi bug fix for his jab against powercrushes. Huge "buff"
I tried testing it vs Hwoarang, didn't notice a difference
They overnerfed the tracking on b4,3 , the second hit legit goes through people -_-
saw women costumes... this guy is culture.
Is that mod one of those outfits from The First Descendant?
Yup
tekkenmods.com/mod/4800/tk-8-jun-lil-nun
Jin still untouched, nice 😊
He parried the nerfs 😂
He gets the main character privilege
I don't see him like strong or broken character. I fought against Jin many times. Don't nerf him. We don't need another Devil Jin nerf story.
2:12 Your Dragunov clips switched a bit accidentally I see. Bottom is the one before the patch.
I hope they make it so Alisa gives less grey health. She does damage but most of it is recoverable. I think that was the idea(high damage but very recoverable) but if they nerf her damage/ chip damage they need to give her something in return or she’ll end up like devil J
Steve heat engage fang still tracks lmaoooo
lets go another buff for dvj
They buffed Devil Jin, finally!
These 5 are literally the only tihngs that were done in the latest Tekken 8 Patch.
Hey hey, there are 11 things in the patch
ಠಿ_ಠ
Not enough devil jin nerfs.
How do you set this up? Do you have 2 steam accounts playing different versions of tekken or can you choose to not update and play offline somehow?
I don't update the game
I'm gonna be honest I havent played since august
Yo, login and get those free coins
@@IAMOP ok I will ,but I aint playing
@@dudevinciFair
no Lolsan was harmed in this video 💀💀💀💀💀
Yoshi Nina Jin Shaheen all are having a good day.
finally, Drag and Alisa cheese got nerfed
I dont spam dragunovs qcf4 though its ok for me but the b34😢
Buff movement a bit more and reduce damage and it’ll be a better game. Oh and give kazuya a useable tornado ffs 😅
the alisa chip dmg one was funny. youre just probably dead now instead of basically dead from the chip lol
how did you remove the blue background from heat system and rage art?
It's this mod
tekkenmods.com/mod/4741/no-heat-and-rage-light-effects
He has another video about this one, "The game looks so much better like this"
Cool
Very good balance changes overall tbh.
Why they nerfed Heihachi Damage this is his identity Damage
@@kat-aht5165 it's not that bad tbh. It did feel cheat since u skipping the combo to reset the multiplier. Now I finish the whole combo
@@nightblade178I agree, plus its not t7 rage drive anymore
After patch - DJ's players still loosing xD
They're Fixing The Things We Asked For and Balancing The Characters That Need It. In Good Timing Too. W Update.
When the nerfs finally kills drag and nobody will use him will give peace to the people i rather wanted jin and devil jin to be nerfed drag already received alot of nerfs in streaks
Yeah, this is sad. 😭
Tekken 5 Drag mains forever loyal
Devil is pretty weak while drag is top 1
The crime here is that Dragunov heat smash still travel to the moon on whiffed
Just run towards him when he's doing the heat smash, it's not that hard since his heat smash use quite long time to do and recover
At least now you won't get clipped while chasing him.
they didnt touch paul. okay, hes lacking of DEATH in T8.
Well atleast the adults are slowly returning to the balance team section
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He’s been nerfed heavy as fuck poor drag
People just complain until a character wont be butchered then another OP character will follow and its the same cycle
Lars got big nerfed as well
Yoshimitsu...
💗
Asuka gets thinner😂
They downgrade Dragunov 😭🙏
Unneeded changes, all that matters is that devil jin gets nerfed after all
Thank fokin god.
They still didn’t fix people quitting on you and not getting the win. I jut uninstalled f this game ahead as a clown like I don’t like to waste my time and this is something that should be fixed. I got plugged on4 games in a row smh.
I get plugged maybe once per 30 games. Chances are, you're a plugger yourself, thus getting matched with others with high dc rate
I get plugged maybe once per 30 games. Chances are, you're a plugger yourself, thus getting matched with others with high dc rate
i hate the T8 gameplay rn. 1 mistake and you lose the match. But for these sound tracks. I might just...
It wasn't easy, but I took down some god level Dragunovs yesterday. Felt good.
Heihachi... Is the new Dragunov.
drag downplaying into heihachi upplaying is crazy
Wao bro
че за показ хп сверху?
Dragunov #0:59
I hate the current age of video games with everyone calling for nerfs.
I always say just buff everyone and everything else in a game to match instead. That’s more fun.
This 'buff everyone' mindset will eventually hit a ceiling where you can't go anywhere other than removing characters' key weaknesses, making everyone feel the same, or buffing everyone's damage to a ridiculous degree.
Remember where T7 Season 3 got us with that mindset?
is that a mod costume for lili
ripped from the first descendant. Same game engine lol
tekkenmods.com/mod/4800/tk-8-jun-lil-nun
Modified version of this
@@IAMOPis bamco not copyright striking channels for mods?
@@karanpatel8996 I don't know, that's why I'm not making mod videos
QCF4 nerf is good, but I feel like people complain about it too much, nerfing the move completely isn't the solution to Dragu's strenghts.
It's a half screen advancing plus fucking 7 heat engager that gives combos on heatdash... The move is broken, It's not an argument my guy...
Tbf as much as I hate to say it I agree with you here as a drag main. I think the move is still too oppressive. The range yeah can stay but should be like +2 and +3 on block at tip range. I feel like it hitting grounded is a bit stupid but then again a lot of characters have mid moves that do hit grounded ( Kazuya, Yoshi just existing, Victor etc etc) but I think these nerfs are significant enough to at least warrant some none hatred towards dragunov now@@tropicar6942
@@tropicar6942it is, but can we get qcf4 like 4+ and removed heat dash?) Mb wall splat, mb wall breake, but launch on hit? Too much
@@tropicar6942 Who said it's not broken? But at this point you guys just want to remove the move completely, I wouldn't mind if it didn't hit grounded and if it only gave a mini follow up after heat dash, but you would still be here complaining about it's being super + on hit, and it's tracking.
how did they somehow manage to buff nina 💀
What? She only got a bugfix? If anything, going from the throw working airborne to a shitty float is a nerf.
Yeah, keep nerfing the shit outta Dragunov. There's so much OP characters, but they only see Dragunov.
Hi all, want to ask that since Dragonuv's b+43 has lost its tracking, which homing move should I use to track sidestep opponent instead? b3 is good but it's high, d2 is good but it's low, seems like there's move mid move that is fast and track sidestep opponent.
Don't be afraid to use b3, no one can duck it on reaction
In Tekken 7 I used to use db2, 1
I haven't checked if it still works same
So Negan can have a long ass rage art and you have to SIT THERE while he does it
while Devil Jin's rage art has the timer run so if you have the health lead when he hits you, you win?
I swear, Dragunov gets the most nerfs 💀💀💀
Yeah, almost like he's overtuned to the point where he gets the most nerfs and is still top 3, wait a second...
He started off pretty broken i would say its justified he still top 2 maybe even top1 still and its bean 9 months straight being top 1
All these patches is why the game died so fast
People still bitching lol
Dragunov still needs more nerfs.
That’s the problem with trying to “balancing” in these games. There will always be people unhappy. Badly they just want everyone else’s characters nerfed and theirs buffed.
@@TREVORVADER Everyone wants Dragunov nerfed. He's still overtuned.
@@TREVORVADER dude. what are you waffling about. Drags been an issue since launch.
I'm still not happy with this i want a huge balance update and heat reformed
Have to wait till next year for season 2
And yet Nina, Jin, Yoshi, and Feng still untouched.
Shhhhh... Jin must remain a secret 🙊
No no no. We don't need another Devil Jin nerf story. Don't touch Jin
I need me a girl like Lili in my life bruh
Shut up, get a life
Dragunov dejavu
Drag had b4,3 since 6 why they keep killing this guy just duck the second move
Yeah the 3 is high. It's duckable. You can duck and punish.
"Just duck bro, don't expect 3D defense in a 3D game."
Absolute delusionals😊