@@Uuu999oooppp they call him a fraud for using another technique against one that can literally stop 98% of attacks in the verse except domains They be calling yuta a fraud for his plans not working against a literal GENIUS They be calling megumi a fraud for summoning mahoraga in situations against mostly special grades or about to die (they ignore the culling games fr) They be calling anyone a fraud at this point
Something no one mentions is that Sukuna tried against Kashimo, which doesn't seem like a big deal, but you have to remember he literally blitzes Maki in a weaker form because he wanted to prove something to her. Blitzed a heavy hitter yet Kashimo could at least react to Sukuna, he does get tagged too, but the fact that Sukuna with just straight hands bullied Maki in a weaker form after Kashimo blatantly reacted to him when he had all 4 arms is hilarious.
Moreover most people fought sukuna not alone. Kashimo feat is also getting downplayed even though we know how strong sukuna is even when he is standing on one leg.
yeah its so obvious that sukuna actually tried against kashimo and was fucking around with the rest of the cast thats the only reason they won bro was trolling too much.
@HansWalter-z6c he still hasnt shown that many impressive feats. Sure he was boxing a weakened Sukuna but that very same weakened Sukuna was dodging Kashimo's attacks. Then when Sukuna transformed Kashimo was getting blitzed and pummeled. Then couldnt fully dodge a world slash from Sukuna after the man literally warned him about it
@@enenra6417 Kashimo blatantly outperforms maki against a stronger Sukuna. There's also that hakari post Shinjuku still has relativity statements to yuta and Kashimo has a CT making him a blitz tier highee than that.
This is one of the things i find most weird about the shinjuku showdown and how sukunas was defeated Like sukuna only used effort whilst fighting gojo and kashimo So by this logic if he cared about any of the other fighters he would have won (or get stunlocked by hakari for 100 chapters)
Sukuna survived 3 domains before Yuji's. I honestly don't know why he didn't give Kashimo one to show off Kashimo's strength, and it's a bit weird that someone with the title of "The Strongest of his Era" never attaining the pinnacle of jujutsu is like an MLB pitcher who can't throw a curveball. Guess Gege was really deadset on Kashimo's CT(Which he also didn't show too much of).
@@adora_burst8143i know im probably late but its probably because his technique literally KILLS him to make him stronger. although we dont know how long the cursed technique lasts, if his technique kills him fast, his domain would be a self-nuke.
@Brian-td5lm yeah but then you could say since the technique is imbued into the barrier of the domain, it wouldn't kill Kashimo since the technique isn't being activadegrin his body.
@@josephrush8078 that sukuna couldn’t even use domains. The moment sukuna got back to 100% he oneshotted fraudjimo. Also ryu ce output > kashimo Granite blast > kashimos lightning Granite blast has no charge up so he would hit it first
@@JatayvionReal I agree, it's obvious you don't need to mention how bad Kashimo cooks Gojo/Sukuna. Ratio + Kashimo to the moon + Yuta is a fraud + Gojo is coming back + Stay mad
Im sorry but I cant help but disagree with that “he lost to Hakari” bit. If you ask me personally Kashimo dog walked him. He was picking him apart the whole fight. He won that even Hakari said so himself too no? He won that.
People don't give him credit when two top tiers who only lost due to jumping and cheese, both acknowledged his strength and not only that but Kenjaku believed Kashimo to be the strongest in his era even after meeting Ryu, with Ryu having a DE, the highest output in history (although that's a bit shaky, I'm not sure if this includes Sukuna since people didn't really seem to understand how strong he really was..) and he went extreme diff against Yuta during CG, I find it hard to believe people actually genuinely believe he's not at least top 5 or even top 10 but they'll put Hakari above him when he quite literally pushed Hakari through multiple DEs and didn't suffer more than a nose bleed and some scratches, another thing people seem to forget is anyone aside for Sukuna and Hakari don't have any kind of immunity or nullification for Kashimo's punches infused with his electrifying CE, which stuns you on contact as well and he has this in base without the use of his CT.
@@CaioHenrique-us7jt actually, there is kind of evidence. World cleave looks literally exactly like dismantle. It could be, it could also not be it. I guess just take it as you want
He fought the weakest Sukuna out of everyone before Yuta arrived. The only nerf that Sukuna had was Gojo, which lessened Sukuna's output as stated by Yuta himself. Also that his output had been recovering since then. Kashimo didn't stand a chance against Heian Era Sukuna, got waxxed in hand-to-hand then got waffled. He may be top 5... Maybe... But to be honest? At least he is the strongest Farmer. And I do love me some agenda... Therefore? Kashimo>Kenjaku.
Personally, I think Gege should've given Kashimo his fight instead of using him as a sacrificial lamb to hype up Sukuna's strength. Which I think it was unnecessary since Sukuna just killed SATORU GOJO and crowned himself the sole Strongest. I think the fight should've went down in a way that shows Kashimo's own strength and jujutsu, but also portrays Sukuna's own jujutsu dominance with him seamlessly being able to deal with all of Kashimo's deadly jujutsu. For example, imagine if that "Dodge this." World Slash happened inside of Kashimo's domain as Sukuna notes Kashimo's strength for being able to crack his anti-barrier technique, breaking the domain as Kashimo's manages to partially avoid it.
@@Xenoswe sukuna upscales simple as that, literally maki and yuji jumped sukuna 15f with only 10% percent of his output that is literally like weaker than 3f sukuna
I think MBA kashimo was the strongest (besides sukuna and gojo of course) in the shinjuku raid, stronger than domain awakened Yuji, and domain Yuta, i scale MBA kashimo to around 14 fingers of sukuna, with Yuji and Yuta being 12-13
Because of domains and ct matchup interactions, power scaling in JJK has some issues. In terms of power and stats, Kashimo top 5, in terms of combat ability and who would win in a fight, Kashimo top 10.
You have to consider distance between attacks and their opponents. Hakari reacted to Kashimo’s lighting with it only being about 12 feet away from him . Maki caught Mai’s bullet from a few feet away. The narrator stated not even LIGHT could escape Yuki’s black hole and Kenjaku reacted to it point blank, sure he wasnt dodging it but he reacted with his counter in time nonetheless. Sukuna didn’t realize Gojo’s purple (made of tachyons, that travel faster than light) until it was right in front of him and he reacted to the attack. Can’t argue he sensed Gojo’s output cuz that was the whole point of Ichijis barrier. Nowhere is it stated Kashimo’s EM waves have a slow charge time. So Sukuna being right in front of Kashimo would also make that a lightspeed reaction. After Sukuna transformed Kashimo fired condensed lighting at Sukuna which should definitely be faster than his base lighting attacks he used against Hakari, and Sukuna’s slash countered the lightning after it was released not before. All things considered that puts the high tiers of JJK way higher than double Mach’s. I’m not arguing the high tiers are several times faster than light, but they do just barely pass it🤏🏾.
Gojo's purple being made of imaginary mass doesn't necessarily mean that it travels faster than light. Hanami was able to barely dodge that. She fought within the same speed ballpark as unawakened Maki, who caught that bullet. Are you gonna tell me that that Maki, who landed several blows on Hanami, is so incredibly slow in comparison? That's not to say purple is slow. It may well be FTL. It just means that being able to potentially dodge purple while on-guard isn't that impressive. Keep in mind, all sorcerers detect the flow of cursed energy to predict attacks before they happen. Most of the dodging is a result of this, rather than pure reactions. If Sukuna was that fast, why does he break a sweat at all when fighting Todo's Boogie Woogie and the vibraslap, with such a relatively low frequency of 50 swaps per second? Honestly, I'd say Sukuna's actual reaction speed is more in the ballpark of a few milliseconds, or maybe even larger fractions of a millisecond.
@@brunitop4753 To answer your sukuna and todo question. Its the fact that todo doesn't swap all the time within that second. 50 is todo limit and he swaps yuji himself and sukuna. Thats three people and sukuna has to keep track of yuji. Plus he swaps with other objects like rocks crows etc. Add the fact that when he tries to attack todo can swap yuji and him with other things and you can see the problem. It is just too much going on for sukuna to keep track of while trying to figure out when todo is gonna swap.
this is a decent kashimo scale the em waves are blitzing anyone in the verse besides gojo or sukuna, they are TSOL even outside of a vacuum He can charge his em waves almost instantly, the em waves are dura neg in itself
@@JatayvionReal Not Yuki or Kenjaku but definitely Yorozu since Sukuna wasn't even taking her seriously at all throughout their fight and she was used purely to test the 10s.
@@Justafeint u can make the argument for base him beating yuki cuz of his passive charge and sure hit lightning bolt. But CT him is deffo beating both
The thing I don't get is if the waffle attack was even the world cutting slash or not. I honestly don't think it is, because Sukuna never changed or did hand signs for it. Plus, he's never been able to do multiple world slashes at once. If he was, then Gojo would have been in pieces. Even worse, Yuji would have been cut in half along side Yuta in his domain, and when Sukuna tried to use it on Maki, she would have been chopped up too. I think Kashimo was killed by regular dismantles... Which to be fair makes sense, since his technique was already destroying his own body.
In-regards to JJK Speedscaling, I feel like they are lowballed to all fucking hell. (Fuck the Naoya Mach 3 statement, that shit is just dumb, and already got disproven by Gege but I will prove it) The fodder, Juzo legit, reacts to sound. In Chapter 52, Juzo is able to react and fend off sound strikes from Gakuganji, a sound-based attacker. Subsonic JJKkspeeds being viewed as impressive are inconsistent. Naoya's peak speed (sound) is superior to all the inconsistent reactions a one-off character reacted to earlier in the series. Yuji reacting to the Piercing Blood: Even at speeds of just 1 m/s, Yuji can still perceive the attacks at supersonic speed at the beginning. Since his perception is supersonic, Naoya perceives Yuji blitzing while being casual, although his top speed is the speed of sound. Kamo reacting to Naoya (Curse): Kamo finds human Naoya's speed to be rather astounding. However, despite being blitzed by a supersonic Cursed Womb, Kamo responds and blocks Naoya (Complete Curse) without using his "Red Scales" until after the fact. Sound characters aren't viewed as impressive. Sound characters aren't seen to be really amazing; this sort of relates to the earlier inconsistency with Juzo's reaction to them. The point of this argument is that characters (outside of Gojo) whose speeds are comparable to the top speeders are viewed as nothing exceptional and are demonstrated to be reactive and blocked. It seems clear that Gege has forgotten how he previously wrote his characters. n the JJK Anime Cursed Energy Training Arc, Gojo literally dodged a point-blank explosion from Jogo, which is either Massively Hypersonic+ or Sub-Relativistic (and this comes from VsBattles, which is notorious for lowballing). 3 Fingers Sukuna's feat of blitzing Megumi resulted in Supersonic+ speeds. This feat is important as this same Sukuna is what Toji speed is referred to as comparable to, if not faster than, which, while still slower, Megumi on guard in Shibuya was able to still react and dodge to him. Showing Shibuya characters in at least the Supersonic+ ranges. There are also other feats, such as Kenjaku reacting and blocking sniper fire and young Geto blocking bullets. Uraume reacts and blocks to Piercing Blood, with it breaking the sound barrier inches from their face. There's also a casual Naoya reacting to Piercing Blood. Takaba's jump into the path of an explosion to halt it and save Hazenoki, which resulted in speeds of High Hypersonic+. Oh, and a fun thing I found out! MBA Kashimo did not use actual sound to attack Sukuna. Soundwaves are used to optimize frequencies, not attack, so it’s got to be electromagnetic waves since they are stated to vaporize, which is exactly what happened to the ground when Kashimo hit it. (This makes sense since sound ISN'T an electrical phenomenon.) Many would attempt to debunk Kashimo's EM Waves feat by saying that Sukuna was simply aim-dodging; however, the actual definition of aim-dodging refers to the technique of avoiding linear attacks by repositioning oneself away from the path of the attack before it is fired. However, as shown in the panel, that is clearly not the case. Sukuna clearly moved his body out of the way of the projectile. The left side of the panel clearly shows that the projectile was already in front of his face when he dodged it, which would already give less weight to the idea that he moved out of the way before it was fired. However, on the right side, the panel reaffirms this, as the attack had hit the ground as Sukuna moved out of the way. This heavily implies that Sukuna actually reacted to and dodged the Light Speed projectile, as otherwise the attack wouldn’t have already hit the ground when his body was out of the way. Sukuna later on was also shown to be able to perform chants and handsigns for WCS while Kashimo's EM Wave Laserbeam was moving towards him, in which the difference between talking and punching is giant. It would further prove that Sukuna actually reacted to EM Waves. Toji in the anime reacts and possibly even dodges Nue's lightning. When Sukuna transforms before being hit in order to not be killed by the lightning, which can’t be dodged, he grows a new arm. This is a Massively Hypersonic+ feat. Todo creates an imagination in 0.01 seconds which gives him a Massively Hypersonic feat LMFAOO. Gojo's processing speed makes him FTL. 3 years of his youth he processed in an instant. If needed I can give sources!
facts man I've seen naruto and countless other verses suffer from this same issue of people downplaying those verses instead of taking the time to know where those verses actually scale properly.
Istg once mappa animates sukuna vs kashimo everyone will take back their fraud allegations except for some yuta heads(Yuta got manhandled by a WEAKENED SUKUNA in GOJOS BODY)
Kashimo simply never got the chance to show everything he can do. All phenomena that can be created through electricity is quite a lot, don't ya think? One thing he could do, for example, is create chlorine gas through electrolysis like he did against Hakari without being near a body of water. That poison negs any RCT that isn't fully automatic, which only applies to Hakari. PRETTY DAMN BUSTED, DONTCHA THINK?! Though he has better AP and dura than Jackpot Hakari, it's either an insane feat for Hakari or an embarrassing instance for Kashimo that he got blitzed by him at his peak in Jackpot.
No Sukuna cured poison since the start of jjk, making Yuji imune to jumpei's poison and the choso's brother poison, called literally the king of curses and poisons so that would do jack shit to Sukuna and pretty much anything Sukuna does Gojo does so... But you read it wrong, go read the oficiall translation, kashimo can't manifest phenomenon, his brain receive more electric signals so that enhanced his speed, and the sound waves that optimize and attune to the natural frequencies of substances and he can shoot electromagnetic waves that vaporizes irradiated objects, that is the manifestation of phenomenon mythical beast amber gave him, it's literally written, he can't manipulate or manifest any phenomenon other than those. Plus have you thought about the fact kashimo lived like 90 years and reincarnated and still doesn't have a domain expansion? Or figured some biding vow to use his technic for limited amount of time or inside a domain and not get destroyed, or even have explicit show reverse curse technich? He is one of the worst sorcerers in history when it comes to understanding and manipulation of jujutsu like pure garbage even people like uro have a domain and RCT or naoya minutes after becoming a curse.
@@JPBerty01 He never cured poison at the start of the series. Yuji has a resistance to poisons because Sukuna's fingers themselves are poisonous because of their cursed energy, which has been established to be naturally harmful. Choso's blood is also poisonous because he's half curse, who are made up of cursed energy. Same with Eso and Keichizu, but to a greater extent as their technique is all about their poisonous blood. So that resistance is only regarding cursed energy. Kashimo is said to be able to manifest any phenomena that can be created by electricity, in the VIZ translation, lmao. It's never said he can't manifest anything else. He can't make a domain because he cannot imbue his technique into a barrier exactly because of how it's designed. A domain would just be a waste of cursed energy and redundant when he can already create a sure hit through exchanging electrical charges.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 so explain to me the title attributed in the same chapter by the narrator "the king of curses and poisons"? Why would the narrator quote that right after yuji got poisoned by jumpei if Sukuna didn't have a part in it only his toxic fingers? My point still stands, a poison created by cursed energy is the literal same as a normal poison because poison attack specific cells depending on it's effect on the body. The ability construction for example shows that very clearly it doesn't matter the source the object or thing itself is real and is a copy of the one in real life. No just checked bro it doesn't say that, these phenomenon WERE MANIFEST in kashimo's body, his CT is not manipulation of electricity phenomenons, and to further prove that he literally never manipulated a single one throughout the whole fight the only thing used was the electromagnetic waves. No he can imbue a domain with his electric property as a sure hit for example and make it charge the lightning much faster, your technich especially your domain is a manifestation of YOUR interpretation of the technich just like Yuji's shrine is different than Sukuna's even tho it's still shrine. He simply doesn't have one and that speaks a lot for capacity as sorcerer, sorry but if he was the strongest of an era without a domain or using mythical beast only his base form doesn't favor him at all, it only tells how weak that era was thus the farmer memes
To be fair hakari was holding back as well It just showed in one instance where hakari jackpot was running out so he decides to speed up in started pummeling our favorite lightning God
Live kashimo, but he and yuta didn't lose to the world dismantle. In yuta's case sukuna didn't have a mouth or extra hands to do so, so it wad just a boosted dismantle. We literally just don't see sukuna use handsigns or chants with the net dismantles for kashimo.
Not going to lie that argument that Kashimo didn’t contribute mutch to Sakuna I would have to say if you use your brain it isn’t really true as if Sakuna didn’t turn into his 4 arm state in the battle against Kashimo than knowing his personality he would challenge himelsf and fight the others without transforming as much as he can and he might not have held back and killed them all as he would actually having more fun with them so knowing Sakuna’s character and the contributions Kashimo made as well as the good ending to his character I would say that he is one of the most slept on character in the series.
For any confusion about emw first off your completely right about them needing a perfect vacuum for light speed but even without it their 99% sol and light is a electromagnetic wave, we just dont know what emw kashimo was using so it hard to scale also even without it he would be ftl cause sukuna reacted to hollow purple with them being imaginary mass that always move faster than light also kashimo emw vaporize any irradiated object and all matter is irradiated including humans so realistically if you get hit by one its a oneshot (This just to sort out some confusion so if you dont care about it, its all good) Kashimo agenda-TOP 3
@@enenra6417 gets blitzed, maybe he'd put up a good fight against base kashimo but considering hes a close range fighter (mainly) he might get hit with the sure hit
People really using his short fight against sukuna as an anti feat against him as if Yuta didn't get sliced in half, in a 3v1 with teammates very relative to his strength, in his domain, against a weaker version of sukuna, with sukuna playing and having fun, and with his direct weaknesses (Yuji's soul strikes, Domain guaranteed hit Jacob's ladder) plus not having kamutoke which he had against kashimo. MBA kashimo mid diffs Yuta + Rika in his own domain and even that is generous.
If only we knew that heck does yujis domain do (Also would definetly say kashimo wins because this is not a numbers battle because literal electricity is definetly stronger than what people think And because kashimo is faster than yuji he would be able to apply the mba effects on him One thing that kashimo could do is straigh up fry yujis brain wich is impossible to cure because you need youre brain to cure yourself)
Kashimo legit neg diffed panda and lost extreme diffed with a domain amped , infinite cursed energy hakari and kashimo didn’t even use his CT, + new body
@@a123_epic Negging Panda isn't something that should be hyped up 😭 if you are a supposed strong character in JJK and you aren't negging Panda, I don't know how you will ever beat the fraud allegations.
it is sad how weak Kashimo looks because of that fight considering basic stuff like being able to damage hakari, who has higher RCT than Gojo using his staff lightning strike to break domains from outside or kill them with a sneak attack inside the domain gaining time with hollow wicker basket and killing enemies in 5 hits + lightning bolt he is indeed stronger than most domain users without a domain but the lack of fights against standard domain users doesnt let you realize that
15 finger sukuna in Shibuya gaps anyone that isn’t gojo The verse fought a nerfed 10 finger levels of ce sukuna who didn’t even use his domain for the most part while getting nerfed by Yujis punches 15 finger sukuna dices everyone to bits
Sukuna after the hollow purple bomb was in terms of output and cursed energy amount at half due to the external brain damage, the inability to heal himself from the injuries which not only lowers his output but his general combat abilities, and the other statements to a more heal sukuna during his yuta vs yuji fight show that his output was massively lowered. The sukuna kashimo fought was at best a heavily injured 10f sukuna missing all his haxs In short the sukuna kashimo fought was NOT stronger than 15f sukuna
This fanbase is cooked if they put thier opinions on how strong characters are over what gege says. If gege says that jp hakari is yuta level he is yuta level, if jp hakari is yuta level and base kashimo is relative to him then... but im not saying that base kashimo is able to beat yuta no way the matchup is just really bad but MBA kashimo could probs jus beat youta before he can open his domain.
Man, I get your point, but honestly this comment is kinda stupid, cause its not even true. Gege himself has even stated yuta to be top 4 only below kenjaku and the jujutsu gods.The only affirmattion of this (yuta=hakari) comes from yuta, who is not realiable in this aspect, hinted by maki, hinted by gege. Gege really never intended to make them equal, just relative And even if hakari were to have the same speed, then, again, the difference isnt large enough to be something Yuta couldnt handle alone. His showcase agaisnt sukuna is just too good, even before yuji did something. Plus there is rika and 5 cts that counter kashimo or let yuta set up, literally, whatever he wants. Let it be a domain. Let it be something else. Its just disingenuous to think kashimo wins in any situation that isnt against base Yuta. Anything else, he loses 8 out 10 times (outside domain). And honestly, if I were to take the yuta=jp hakari=kashimo
Yes, until Yuta opens his domain and then Kashimo gets mid diffed. He needs to clasp his hands to keep hollow wicker basket up to avoid the sure hit but then he has to fight yuta and rika with no hands. He just gets spammed with multiple CTs and eventually gets obliterated by the sure hit.
@@trickeruniverse1979 Y*ta isnt going to be able to open his domain before getting blitzed and oneshot by lightning Kashimo does him like he did meguna
@GabrielGonzalez-s4b he literally only started jumping after he got blinded and deafened The net was very blatantly an amped dismantle if not wcs His speed is easily top 3 in the verse Quit your mindless hate, wake up to reality
How wouldn't Yuta not put his hands on Kashimo and make him puke up his whole transformation when he performed against a stronger Sukuna better than Kashimo ever did? That stronger Sukuna also took Yuta more seriously than everyone else's, so much so that Sukuna would've killed Higuruma INSTANTLY if Yuta appeared. Kashimo is not as fast as you think he is, his hax are the only thing that's fast. Kashimo's movement speed just got a slight buff.
Bro Yuta, Yorozu, Yuki, Kenjaku and even Takaba could beat MBA Kashimo. Many people know that Takaba chooses not to kill but if he did then GGs for EVERYONE
Yuta can comfortably one shot Kashimo with Jacob’s ladder. Hollow wicker basket isn’t going to save him from Yutas domain and if a HEAVILY nerfed Sukuna survived a strong attack from MBA Kashimo then he’s not doing shit to Yuta
@@JatayvionReallets see the feats of jacobs ladder… oh right didnt do shit to heavily weakened sukuna and got halfed like his sensei shit isnt one shotting kashimo even if yuta could land the attack in the first place
No domain, no RCT, No Amplification his CT is basically worthless outside of a one time use, Called Sukuna Beautiful , his biggest victory is against Panda Bro I’m trying to respect the Waffled One I really am
I feel the JJK community just thinks you have to have a flawless record to not be a fraud.
Fr ppl call sukuna a fraud for dieing, while being a shonen villain bro was doomed from the start
@@Uuu999oooppp they call him a fraud for using another technique against one that can literally stop 98% of attacks in the verse except domains
They be calling yuta a fraud for his plans not working against a literal GENIUS
They be calling megumi a fraud for summoning mahoraga in situations against mostly special grades or about to die (they ignore the culling games fr)
They be calling anyone a fraud at this point
You can’t call a character weak for fighting a strong character and losing
He almost won, Sukuna cheated
You can when the fight was underwhelming when that fight is what's being sold to you with the character's introduction.
@@codafetthow did sukuna cheat lmao
@@codafetteven if it was meguna form one malevolent shrine and hes done for good
How does that make him weak? @@adora_burst8143
Something no one mentions is that Sukuna tried against Kashimo, which doesn't seem like a big deal, but you have to remember he literally blitzes Maki in a weaker form because he wanted to prove something to her. Blitzed a heavy hitter yet Kashimo could at least react to Sukuna, he does get tagged too, but the fact that Sukuna with just straight hands bullied Maki in a weaker form after Kashimo blatantly reacted to him when he had all 4 arms is hilarious.
Moreover most people fought sukuna not alone. Kashimo feat is also getting downplayed even though we know how strong sukuna is even when he is standing on one leg.
yeah its so obvious that sukuna actually tried against kashimo and was fucking around with the rest of the cast thats the only reason they won bro was trolling too much.
@HansWalter-z6c he still hasnt shown that many impressive feats. Sure he was boxing a weakened Sukuna but that very same weakened Sukuna was dodging Kashimo's attacks. Then when Sukuna transformed Kashimo was getting blitzed and pummeled. Then couldnt fully dodge a world slash from Sukuna after the man literally warned him about it
@@enenra6417 Kashimo blatantly outperforms maki against a stronger Sukuna. There's also that hakari post Shinjuku still has relativity statements to yuta and Kashimo has a CT making him a blitz tier highee than that.
This is one of the things i find most weird about the shinjuku showdown and how sukunas was defeated
Like sukuna only used effort whilst fighting gojo and kashimo
So by this logic if he cared about any of the other fighters he would have won (or get stunlocked by hakari for 100 chapters)
Kashimo was holding back he's Hyperversal
You get it
Holding back against Sukuna ?????
😂
@@JatayvionReal yes he actually was😝
“The strongest… farmer”
Femboy
Make Kashimo black and you got trap Yoruichi 🤤
@@jackaboynaylor9273bro..
@@jackaboynaylor9273 🤨🤨🤨🤨
GREAT TYLEARN VIDEO.
Automatic like for defending Peakshimo.
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@@gamercentral2417 goatshimo
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Say what you want about the farmer slayer but he took the strongest attack in the series. The Waffle Slash is bodying anyone.
"through waffles and the farmers, I alone am the femboy one"
-kashimo
"Looks female enough!"
- Super senior Gojo
he deserves more respect for his name and i love his Character design
How strong “WAS” 😭
Gege Didn’t write Kashimo a domain expansion because Sukuna would’ve got cooked 😆 if he said those magic words
Ah yeah. "Domain Expansion!" Ele- *Gets waffled*
Sukuna survived 3 domains before Yuji's. I honestly don't know why he didn't give Kashimo one to show off Kashimo's strength, and it's a bit weird that someone with the title of "The Strongest of his Era" never attaining the pinnacle of jujutsu is like an MLB pitcher who can't throw a curveball. Guess Gege was really deadset on Kashimo's CT(Which he also didn't show too much of).
@@adora_burst8143i know im probably late but its probably because his technique literally KILLS him to make him stronger. although we dont know how long the cursed technique lasts, if his technique kills him fast, his domain would be a self-nuke.
@Brian-td5lm yeah but then you could say since the technique is imbued into the barrier of the domain, it wouldn't kill Kashimo since the technique isn't being activadegrin his body.
5:50 One of the big problems with JJK; Not enough chapters to properly flesh out it's characters and world.
Putting him over 15 finger Sukuna is sick work 😭
Ikr bro is closer to Naoya than 15 finger sukuna
😭🙏🏾
Man isn’t even past ryu who got no diffed by a weaker 15f sukuna
@@gamercentral2417he is past Ryu as he didn’t get no diffed
Yea that’s disgusting
@@josephrush8078 that sukuna couldn’t even use domains. The moment sukuna got back to 100% he oneshotted fraudjimo. Also ryu ce output > kashimo
Granite blast > kashimos lightning
Granite blast has no charge up so he would hit it first
Still investing in Washimo (top 3 btw). Yuta is and has always been a fraud
@@SameHereRamenhe’s not top 3 buddy. Yorozu Yuki Yuta Kenjaku and maybe even Takaba could slap him ☠️
@@JatayvionReal notice how you didn't mention Gojo or Sukuna, so Kashimo > Gojo / Sukuna > Everyone you just listed, gg
@@SameHereRamen it’s obvious I don’t need to mention those 2. Tryna make yourself sound smart? ☠️
@@JatayvionReal I agree, it's obvious you don't need to mention how bad Kashimo cooks Gojo/Sukuna.
Ratio + Kashimo to the moon + Yuta is a fraud + Gojo is coming back + Stay mad
@@SameHereRamen i see its hard to accept that your lighting god king got one tapped by Sukuna and that Gojo could do the same too. Keep crying 😂
Kashimo’s em waves charge up extremely fast, seeing as he can use them mid h2h
Im sorry but I cant help but disagree with that “he lost to Hakari” bit. If you ask me personally Kashimo dog walked him. He was picking him apart the whole fight. He won that even Hakari said so himself too no? He won that.
Kashimo straight up SPARED his life
People don't give him credit when two top tiers who only lost due to jumping and cheese, both acknowledged his strength and not only that but Kenjaku believed Kashimo to be the strongest in his era even after meeting Ryu, with Ryu having a DE, the highest output in history (although that's a bit shaky, I'm not sure if this includes Sukuna since people didn't really seem to understand how strong he really was..) and he went extreme diff against Yuta during CG, I find it hard to believe people actually genuinely believe he's not at least top 5 or even top 10 but they'll put Hakari above him when he quite literally pushed Hakari through multiple DEs and didn't suffer more than a nose bleed and some scratches, another thing people seem to forget is anyone aside for Sukuna and Hakari don't have any kind of immunity or nullification for Kashimo's punches infused with his electrifying CE, which stuns you on contact as well and he has this in base without the use of his CT.
Fax and best character design in JJK
Bro was so strong he needed to get hit with the strongest technique in the series
@@Aslavetofreedom he got hit with a normal ass dismantle net calm down ☠️
@@JatayvionReal No 🗿
@@JatayvionReal it was an world cutting slash net
@@Reetachhokar no evidence for that.
@@CaioHenrique-us7jt actually, there is kind of evidence. World cleave looks literally exactly like dismantle. It could be, it could also not be it. I guess just take it as you want
The Kashimo agenda still lives
He fought the weakest Sukuna out of everyone before Yuta arrived.
The only nerf that Sukuna had was Gojo, which lessened Sukuna's output as stated by Yuta himself. Also that his output had been recovering since then.
Kashimo didn't stand a chance against Heian Era Sukuna, got waxxed in hand-to-hand then got waffled. He may be top 5... Maybe...
But to be honest? At least he is the strongest Farmer. And I do love me some agenda...
Therefore? Kashimo>Kenjaku.
i really wished we saw him more. His design is my favourite in the series and i love his technique.
Same
Ppl acting like if Yuta ain’t fight Sukuna first instead of Kashimo he ain’t gettin cooked the same way😂
Let’s go Ty he’s no fraud I gotta do that full potential vid for my man
Say whatever you want but kashimo can just blow their hands off with electricity if they try to use a domain
"Respect Kashimo 🤓☝️"
People say that the Dismantle Net that hit Kashimo wasn’t the WCS
NOT EVEN TOP 5?
Slander is RIDICULOUS.
Hes EASILY top 3
Not even top 10, Toji smacks.
Toji? Seriously? Lol.@@Generalmituna8079
He’s not Top 3. Yuki Yuta Yorozu and Kenjaku can easily delete him.
@@JatayvionReal all of them get blitzed lmao
@@jojobod Kashimo is not blitzing Yuta and Kenjaku 😭😭😭
KASHIGOAT GLAZE LOVE TO SEE IT
Personally, I think Gege should've given Kashimo his fight instead of using him as a sacrificial lamb to hype up Sukuna's strength. Which I think it was unnecessary since Sukuna just killed SATORU GOJO and crowned himself the sole Strongest. I think the fight should've went down in a way that shows Kashimo's own strength and jujutsu, but also portrays Sukuna's own jujutsu dominance with him seamlessly being able to deal with all of Kashimo's deadly jujutsu. For example, imagine if that "Dodge this." World Slash happened inside of Kashimo's domain as Sukuna notes Kashimo's strength for being able to crack his anti-barrier technique, breaking the domain as Kashimo's manages to partially avoid it.
Honestly I don’t think that kashimo is coming any close to 15f sukuna
buddy kashimo has light speed attacks
@@Xenoswe sukuna upscales simple as that, literally maki and yuji jumped sukuna 15f with only 10% percent of his output that is literally like weaker than 3f sukuna
I think MBA kashimo was the strongest (besides sukuna and gojo of course) in the shinjuku raid, stronger than domain awakened Yuji, and domain Yuta, i scale MBA kashimo to around 14 fingers of sukuna, with Yuji and Yuta being 12-13
Because of domains and ct matchup interactions, power scaling in JJK has some issues. In terms of power and stats, Kashimo top 5, in terms of combat ability and who would win in a fight, Kashimo top 10.
Kashimo fought sukuna before yuji could weaken him and was the only one who didnt fight with help
the strongest femboy of history
Kashimo at least never let being the new Jogo keep him from trying
You have to consider distance between attacks and their opponents. Hakari reacted to Kashimo’s lighting with it only being about 12 feet away from him . Maki caught Mai’s bullet from a few feet away. The narrator stated not even LIGHT could escape Yuki’s black hole and Kenjaku reacted to it point blank, sure he wasnt dodging it but he reacted with his counter in time nonetheless. Sukuna didn’t realize Gojo’s purple (made of tachyons, that travel faster than light) until it was right in front of him and he reacted to the attack. Can’t argue he sensed Gojo’s output cuz that was the whole point of Ichijis barrier. Nowhere is it stated Kashimo’s EM waves have a slow charge time. So Sukuna being right in front of Kashimo would also make that a lightspeed reaction. After Sukuna transformed Kashimo fired condensed lighting at Sukuna which should definitely be faster than his base lighting attacks he used against Hakari, and Sukuna’s slash countered the lightning after it was released not before. All things considered that puts the high tiers of JJK way higher than double Mach’s. I’m not arguing the high tiers are several times faster than light, but they do just barely pass it🤏🏾.
Gojo's purple being made of imaginary mass doesn't necessarily mean that it travels faster than light.
Hanami was able to barely dodge that. She fought within the same speed ballpark as unawakened Maki, who caught that bullet. Are you gonna tell me that that Maki, who landed several blows on Hanami, is so incredibly slow in comparison?
That's not to say purple is slow. It may well be FTL. It just means that being able to potentially dodge purple while on-guard isn't that impressive.
Keep in mind, all sorcerers detect the flow of cursed energy to predict attacks before they happen. Most of the dodging is a result of this, rather than pure reactions.
If Sukuna was that fast, why does he break a sweat at all when fighting Todo's Boogie Woogie and the vibraslap, with such a relatively low frequency of 50 swaps per second?
Honestly, I'd say Sukuna's actual reaction speed is more in the ballpark of a few milliseconds, or maybe even larger fractions of a millisecond.
@@brunitop4753 To answer your sukuna and todo question. Its the fact that todo doesn't swap all the time within that second. 50 is todo limit and he swaps yuji himself and sukuna. Thats three people and sukuna has to keep track of yuji. Plus he swaps with other objects like rocks crows etc. Add the fact that when he tries to attack todo can swap yuji and him with other things and you can see the problem. It is just too much going on for sukuna to keep track of while trying to figure out when todo is gonna swap.
this is a decent kashimo scale
the em waves are blitzing anyone in the verse besides gojo or sukuna, they are TSOL even outside of a vacuum
He can charge his em waves almost instantly, the em waves are dura neg in itself
@@grimesms alright chill. He not beating Yuta, Yorozu Yuki or Kenjaku. And maybe even Takaba if he chose to kill
@@JatayvionReal yes he is
@@JatayvionReal Not Yuki or Kenjaku but definitely Yorozu since Sukuna wasn't even taking her seriously at all throughout their fight and she was used purely to test the 10s.
@@Justafeint u can make the argument for base him beating yuki cuz of his passive charge and sure hit lightning bolt. But CT him is deffo beating both
The thing I don't get is if the waffle attack was even the world cutting slash or not. I honestly don't think it is, because Sukuna never changed or did hand signs for it. Plus, he's never been able to do multiple world slashes at once. If he was, then Gojo would have been in pieces. Even worse, Yuji would have been cut in half along side Yuta in his domain, and when Sukuna tried to use it on Maki, she would have been chopped up too.
I think Kashimo was killed by regular dismantles... Which to be fair makes sense, since his technique was already destroying his own body.
In-regards to JJK Speedscaling, I feel like they are lowballed to all fucking hell. (Fuck the Naoya Mach 3 statement, that shit is just dumb, and already got disproven by Gege but I will prove it)
The fodder, Juzo legit, reacts to sound. In Chapter 52, Juzo is able to react and fend off sound strikes from Gakuganji, a sound-based attacker. Subsonic JJKkspeeds being viewed as impressive are inconsistent. Naoya's peak speed (sound) is superior to all the inconsistent reactions a one-off character reacted to earlier in the series.
Yuji reacting to the Piercing Blood: Even at speeds of just 1 m/s, Yuji can still perceive the attacks at supersonic speed at the beginning. Since his perception is supersonic, Naoya perceives Yuji blitzing while being casual, although his top speed is the speed of sound.
Kamo reacting to Naoya (Curse): Kamo finds human Naoya's speed to be rather astounding. However, despite being blitzed by a supersonic Cursed Womb, Kamo responds and blocks Naoya (Complete Curse) without using his "Red Scales" until after the fact.
Sound characters aren't viewed as impressive. Sound characters aren't seen to be really amazing; this sort of relates to the earlier inconsistency with Juzo's reaction to them. The point of this argument is that characters (outside of Gojo) whose speeds are comparable to the top speeders are viewed as nothing exceptional and are demonstrated to be reactive and blocked. It seems clear that Gege has forgotten how he previously wrote his characters.
n the JJK Anime Cursed Energy Training Arc, Gojo literally dodged a point-blank explosion from Jogo, which is either Massively Hypersonic+ or Sub-Relativistic (and this comes from VsBattles, which is notorious for lowballing).
3 Fingers Sukuna's feat of blitzing Megumi resulted in Supersonic+ speeds. This feat is important as this same Sukuna is what Toji speed is referred to as comparable to, if not faster than, which, while still slower, Megumi on guard in Shibuya was able to still react and dodge to him. Showing Shibuya characters in at least the Supersonic+ ranges.
There are also other feats, such as Kenjaku reacting and blocking sniper fire and young Geto blocking bullets. Uraume reacts and blocks to Piercing Blood, with it breaking the sound barrier inches from their face. There's also a casual Naoya reacting to Piercing Blood.
Takaba's jump into the path of an explosion to halt it and save Hazenoki, which resulted in speeds of High Hypersonic+.
Oh, and a fun thing I found out! MBA Kashimo did not use actual sound to attack Sukuna. Soundwaves are used to optimize frequencies, not attack, so it’s got to be electromagnetic waves since they are stated to vaporize, which is exactly what happened to the ground when Kashimo hit it. (This makes sense since sound ISN'T an electrical phenomenon.)
Many would attempt to debunk Kashimo's EM Waves feat by saying that Sukuna was simply aim-dodging; however, the actual definition of aim-dodging refers to the technique of avoiding linear attacks by repositioning oneself away from the path of the attack before it is fired. However, as shown in the panel, that is clearly not the case. Sukuna clearly moved his body out of the way of the projectile. The left side of the panel clearly shows that the projectile was already in front of his face when he dodged it, which would already give less weight to the idea that he moved out of the way before it was fired. However, on the right side, the panel reaffirms this, as the attack had hit the ground as Sukuna moved out of the way.
This heavily implies that Sukuna actually reacted to and dodged the Light Speed projectile, as otherwise the attack wouldn’t have already hit the ground when his body was out of the way.
Sukuna later on was also shown to be able to perform chants and handsigns for WCS while Kashimo's EM Wave Laserbeam was moving towards him, in which the difference between talking and punching is giant. It would further prove that Sukuna actually reacted to EM Waves.
Toji in the anime reacts and possibly even dodges Nue's lightning.
When Sukuna transforms before being hit in order to not be killed by the lightning, which can’t be dodged, he grows a new arm. This is a Massively Hypersonic+ feat.
Todo creates an imagination in 0.01 seconds which gives him a Massively Hypersonic feat LMFAOO.
Gojo's processing speed makes him FTL. 3 years of his youth he processed in an instant.
If needed I can give sources!
facts man I've seen naruto and countless other verses suffer from this same issue of people downplaying those verses instead of taking the time to know where those verses actually scale properly.
Yuta literally did better against a relative heinen era sukuna before he used his domain.
Istg once mappa animates sukuna vs kashimo everyone will take back their fraud allegations except for some yuta heads(Yuta got manhandled by a WEAKENED SUKUNA in GOJOS BODY)
Tizzy gonna love this video 😂
Kashimo simply never got the chance to show everything he can do. All phenomena that can be created through electricity is quite a lot, don't ya think? One thing he could do, for example, is create chlorine gas through electrolysis like he did against Hakari without being near a body of water. That poison negs any RCT that isn't fully automatic, which only applies to Hakari. PRETTY DAMN BUSTED, DONTCHA THINK?!
Though he has better AP and dura than Jackpot Hakari, it's either an insane feat for Hakari or an embarrassing instance for Kashimo that he got blitzed by him at his peak in Jackpot.
No Sukuna cured poison since the start of jjk, making Yuji imune to jumpei's poison and the choso's brother poison, called literally the king of curses and poisons so that would do jack shit to Sukuna and pretty much anything Sukuna does Gojo does so...
But you read it wrong, go read the oficiall translation, kashimo can't manifest phenomenon, his brain receive more electric signals so that enhanced his speed, and the sound waves that optimize and attune to the natural frequencies of substances and he can shoot electromagnetic waves that vaporizes irradiated objects, that is the manifestation of phenomenon mythical beast amber gave him, it's literally written, he can't manipulate or manifest any phenomenon other than those.
Plus have you thought about the fact kashimo lived like 90 years and reincarnated and still doesn't have a domain expansion? Or figured some biding vow to use his technic for limited amount of time or inside a domain and not get destroyed, or even have explicit show reverse curse technich? He is one of the worst sorcerers in history when it comes to understanding and manipulation of jujutsu like pure garbage even people like uro have a domain and RCT or naoya minutes after becoming a curse.
@@JPBerty01u are so wrong broski
@@tag8699 where bro it's literally written if you want I can get the exact chapter each of those things were said
@@JPBerty01 He never cured poison at the start of the series. Yuji has a resistance to poisons because Sukuna's fingers themselves are poisonous because of their cursed energy, which has been established to be naturally harmful. Choso's blood is also poisonous because he's half curse, who are made up of cursed energy. Same with Eso and Keichizu, but to a greater extent as their technique is all about their poisonous blood. So that resistance is only regarding cursed energy.
Kashimo is said to be able to manifest any phenomena that can be created by electricity, in the VIZ translation, lmao. It's never said he can't manifest anything else.
He can't make a domain because he cannot imbue his technique into a barrier exactly because of how it's designed. A domain would just be a waste of cursed energy and redundant when he can already create a sure hit through exchanging electrical charges.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 so explain to me the title attributed in the same chapter by the narrator "the king of curses and poisons"? Why would the narrator quote that right after yuji got poisoned by jumpei if Sukuna didn't have a part in it only his toxic fingers? My point still stands, a poison created by cursed energy is the literal same as a normal poison because poison attack specific cells depending on it's effect on the body. The ability construction for example shows that very clearly it doesn't matter the source the object or thing itself is real and is a copy of the one in real life.
No just checked bro it doesn't say that, these phenomenon WERE MANIFEST in kashimo's body, his CT is not manipulation of electricity phenomenons, and to further prove that he literally never manipulated a single one throughout the whole fight the only thing used was the electromagnetic waves.
No he can imbue a domain with his electric property as a sure hit for example and make it charge the lightning much faster, your technich especially your domain is a manifestation of YOUR interpretation of the technich just like Yuji's shrine is different than Sukuna's even tho it's still shrine. He simply doesn't have one and that speaks a lot for capacity as sorcerer, sorry but if he was the strongest of an era without a domain or using mythical beast only his base form doesn't favor him at all, it only tells how weak that era was thus the farmer memes
Also hakari only survived cause of a binding vow
The Jogo effect is real 😭
Finally, someone put some respect on my client's name, as his lawyer this is our job!
To be fair hakari was holding back as well It just showed in one instance where hakari jackpot was running out so he decides to speed up in started pummeling our favorite lightning God
Live kashimo, but he and yuta didn't lose to the world dismantle. In yuta's case sukuna didn't have a mouth or extra hands to do so, so it wad just a boosted dismantle. We literally just don't see sukuna use handsigns or chants with the net dismantles for kashimo.
Kashimo is top 7 strongest in verse
"But thats what farmers think😈"
kashimo is easily one of the strongest sorcerers... tf u mean "control any and all electrical phenomenons" this shit the most OP shit ever
Not going to lie that argument that Kashimo didn’t contribute mutch to Sakuna I would have to say if you use your brain it isn’t really true as if Sakuna didn’t turn into his 4 arm state in the battle against Kashimo than knowing his personality he would challenge himelsf and fight the others without transforming as much as he can and he might not have held back and killed them all as he would actually having more fun with them so knowing Sakuna’s character and the contributions Kashimo made as well as the good ending to his character I would say that he is one of the most slept on character in the series.
For any confusion about emw first off your completely right about them needing a perfect vacuum for light speed but even without it their 99% sol and light is a electromagnetic wave, we just dont know what emw kashimo was using so it hard to scale also even without it he would be ftl cause sukuna reacted to hollow purple with them being imaginary mass that always move faster than light also kashimo emw vaporize any irradiated object and all matter is irradiated including humans so realistically if you get hit by one its a oneshot
(This just to sort out some confusion so if you dont care about it, its all good)
Kashimo agenda-TOP 3
Vaporizes Yuji
🧢
@@Generalmituna8079how is yuji beating ct kashimo?😭🙏
@@OmegaLeonidas1610soul punches and domain Expansion
@@enenra6417 gets blitzed, maybe he'd put up a good fight against base kashimo but considering hes a close range fighter (mainly) he might get hit with the sure hit
@@enenra6417mf in Yuji's dreams. Poor guy literally will not even be able to see Kashimo
4:40 Crazy scaling base Kashimo to the attack that one shot Mahoraga 😭 JOGOAT one shots the femboy with his big black molten cyclops uni-ball.
No
“ kashimo is not strong cuz he lost to sukuna”
“ Yuta is not strong cuz he lost to sukuna”
Yuta and kashimo blazers united 🤣
Yo Tylearned next Video Please do how weak is the Boys Universe!
People really using his short fight against sukuna as an anti feat against him as if Yuta didn't get sliced in half, in a 3v1 with teammates very relative to his strength, in his domain, against a weaker version of sukuna, with sukuna playing and having fun, and with his direct weaknesses (Yuji's soul strikes, Domain guaranteed hit Jacob's ladder) plus not having kamutoke which he had against kashimo. MBA kashimo mid diffs Yuta + Rika in his own domain and even that is generous.
All that yapping and the waffled farmer is still a Toji victim 🗣🗣🗣
Sure😂👍
Idiotic jjk fan 😂😂😂
toji ain't even close and he's one of my fav characters
Wait you didnt actually seriously say kashimo died to a workd slash net did you
Natsu vs naruto plzzzzz
Yuta victim
Only if yuta uses domain, then kashimo might lose but he can still win.
Hypothetical non-reincarnated (not weak to soul separating attacks) prime MBA Kashimo vs end of series awakened Yuji with DE?
If only we knew that heck does yujis domain do
(Also would definetly say kashimo wins because this is not a numbers battle because literal electricity is definetly stronger than what people think
And because kashimo is faster than yuji he would be able to apply the mba effects on him
One thing that kashimo could do is straigh up fry yujis brain wich is impossible to cure because you need youre brain to cure yourself)
Can't respect someone who only won against panda.
99% of JJK characters are bums
Kashimo legit neg diffed panda and lost extreme diffed with a domain amped , infinite cursed energy hakari and kashimo didn’t even use his CT, + new body
@@a123_epic Negging Panda isn't something that should be hyped up 😭 if you are a supposed strong character in JJK and you aren't negging Panda, I don't know how you will ever beat the fraud allegations.
Tbf panda is one of the strongest characters in the show only a grade 1 sorcerer can defeat him
@@RedLights9000-f3l Most the cast are at or above grade 1 level 😭
@@jackaboynaylor9273 not really
it is sad how weak Kashimo looks because of that fight considering basic stuff like
being able to damage hakari, who has higher RCT than Gojo
using his staff lightning strike to break domains from outside or kill them with a sneak attack inside the domain
gaining time with hollow wicker basket and killing enemies in 5 hits + lightning bolt
he is indeed stronger than most domain users without a domain but the lack of fights against standard domain users doesnt let you realize that
Nah, EM waves are light speed or high relativistic in air.
Throughout crops and barns I alone am the farming one. - Kashimo
Wait wait are you John casterline!?? Why do u sound like him?!?
Kashimo is top 3 and I’m tired of pretending he’s not
When you think about it Uraume was able to keep up with hakari longer than kashimo lol
Because when he fought kaahimo they were near the ocean
@@incognito8907 fair enough
he is top 5
No he’s not.
Then who is? Maki?💀
@@ErykMachulik Yuki, Yorozu and Kenjaku can easily delete him. Don’t go there with me now
@@JatayvionReal he is above yuki and probably yorozu (probably), but if you wanna think yuki is better it's fine
@@incognito8907 Yorozu is an incredibly strong Heian era sorcerer who threw hand with some of the strongest. Don’t underestimate her
15 finger sukuna in Shibuya gaps anyone that isn’t gojo
The verse fought a nerfed 10 finger levels of ce sukuna who didn’t even use his domain for the most part while getting nerfed by Yujis punches
15 finger sukuna dices everyone to bits
Sukuna after the hollow purple bomb was in terms of output and cursed energy amount at half due to the external brain damage, the inability to heal himself from the injuries which not only lowers his output but his general combat abilities, and the other statements to a more heal sukuna during his yuta vs yuji fight show that his output was massively lowered.
The sukuna kashimo fought was at best a heavily injured 10f sukuna missing all his haxs
In short the sukuna kashimo fought was NOT stronger than 15f sukuna
He was, he had better output than later in the fight, plus 4 arms, something that he missed later on, and kamutoke
This fanbase is cooked if they put thier opinions on how strong characters are over what gege says. If gege says that jp hakari is yuta level he is yuta level, if jp hakari is yuta level and base kashimo is relative to him then... but im not saying that base kashimo is able to beat yuta no way the matchup is just really bad but MBA kashimo could probs jus beat youta before he can open his domain.
Man, I get your point, but honestly this comment is kinda stupid, cause its not even true. Gege himself has even stated yuta to be top 4 only below kenjaku and the jujutsu gods.The only affirmattion of this (yuta=hakari) comes from yuta, who is not realiable in this aspect, hinted by maki, hinted by gege. Gege really never intended to make them equal, just relative
And even if hakari were to have the same speed, then, again, the difference isnt large enough to be something Yuta couldnt handle alone. His showcase agaisnt sukuna is just too good, even before yuji did something. Plus there is rika and 5 cts that counter kashimo or let yuta set up, literally, whatever he wants. Let it be a domain. Let it be something else. Its just disingenuous to think kashimo wins in any situation that isnt against base Yuta. Anything else, he loses 8 out 10 times (outside domain). And honestly, if I were to take the yuta=jp hakari=kashimo
@@fernandoreimpell2818 ye i get it
Hes top 3
This is NOT negotiable
1. Sukuna 2. Gojo 3. Yuta 4. Kashimo
Kenjaku and even Yuki is above Yuta
@@KVNKMN69 no?
@@KVNKMN69 how do you even scale that, those two are scaled to each other, but have never really fought anyone else that we’ve seen
@@KVNKMN69 yuta seems way more impressive, also because Yuki literally gets so much weaker as she uses rct
who are we trying to kid here
"zzz"zzz"
Stronger then yuta btw
Nope
@@JatayvionReal yep cope harder
@@fwslaps4785 hard to accept? It’s ok bro 😂
Base kashimo loses extreme diff with yuta.With MBA he mid diffs this bum
You are true
True
Top 5 JJK Characters
1: Sukuna
2 A: Gojo
2B: Yuji
3: Yuta (Gojo body)
4: Yuta
5: Maki
4:
Tell me how MAKI can kill kashimo
Maki? Maki? Oh hell no
Im sorry... YUJI ABOVE YUTA? Even as a kashimo glazer who sees yuta as a fraud, this is not acceptable
Kashimo was killed by regular dismantles. Not WCS
Cope harder
How is he a fraud? Gege cant write strong characters without stopping to play with his ashole about sukuna
God I love femboys
Y*ta gets blitzed by kashimo, and it isnt even close
Yes, until Yuta opens his domain and then Kashimo gets mid diffed. He needs to clasp his hands to keep hollow wicker basket up to avoid the sure hit but then he has to fight yuta and rika with no hands. He just gets spammed with multiple CTs and eventually gets obliterated by the sure hit.
@@trickeruniverse1979 Y*ta isnt going to be able to open his domain before getting blitzed and oneshot by lightning
Kashimo does him like he did meguna
@GabrielGonzalez-s4b he literally got flashbanged by kamutoke and still managed to almost counterattack sukuna WHEN HE WAS BEHIND HIM
@GabrielGonzalez-s4b he literally only started jumping after he got blinded and deafened
The net was very blatantly an amped dismantle if not wcs
His speed is easily top 3 in the verse
Quit your mindless hate, wake up to reality
@@jojobod if that lightening doesn’t hit his head the first time, which it most likely won’t, then yuta RCTs and open his domain immediately.
How wouldn't Yuta not put his hands on Kashimo and make him puke up his whole transformation when he performed against a stronger Sukuna better than Kashimo ever did? That stronger Sukuna also took Yuta more seriously than everyone else's, so much so that Sukuna would've killed Higuruma INSTANTLY if Yuta appeared. Kashimo is not as fast as you think he is, his hax are the only thing that's fast. Kashimo's movement speed just got a slight buff.
Bro Yuta, Yorozu, Yuki, Kenjaku and even Takaba could beat MBA Kashimo. Many people know that Takaba chooses not to kill but if he did then GGs for EVERYONE
I will not respect kashimo because he's going to come back at chapter 270
bro said domain-less yuta got no chance against base kashimo 😭😭😭
Based
Yuta can comfortably one shot Kashimo with Jacob’s ladder. Hollow wicker basket isn’t going to save him from Yutas domain and if a HEAVILY nerfed Sukuna survived a strong attack from MBA Kashimo then he’s not doing shit to Yuta
@@JatayvionReallets see the feats of jacobs ladder… oh right didnt do shit to heavily weakened sukuna and got halfed like his sensei shit isnt one shotting kashimo even if yuta could land the attack in the first place
Becouse it's true
@@JatayvionReal i get your point, but you need to remember that HWB doesn't need both hands together all the time, kashimo has a big chance
Weaker than ryu
Debatable
No domain, no RCT, No Amplification his CT is basically worthless outside of a one time use, Called Sukuna Beautiful , his biggest victory is against Panda
Bro I’m trying to respect the Waffled One I really am
Kashimo so fucking useless that even the main cast didn't even let him be in their plans
It's not that they didn't let him, it's that Kashimo didn't care about them at all
@@incognito8907 truly a femboy farmer moment
Kashimo is nowhere near shibuya sukuna😂 i hope i misheard that one
Kashimo got beaten by high schoolers. I just can't respect him.
Like every antagonist in shonen?
tizzy burner account
JoGOAT agenda here.
JoGOAT > Kenny
👇🏾🥱
The shiesty sorcerer unironically 1 shots Jogo.
@@ExplosiveGrape Maybe.