1:05 Kashimo actually does know about the transformation. All culling game players who are cursed objects via kenjaku have the option of overwriting their vessels appearance with their own, or transforming. Yorozu intentionally kept her appearance as megumis sister during her fight with sukuna, whilst people like Uro and Kashimo immedietly returned to their original appearances. Due to Megumi also being a culling game player as a vessel for sukuna, acting as if Kashimo wouldn't know about transformation is if anything a downplay on his intelligence and BIQ.
was just abiut ti say this if they could overwrite vessel body to get their original body back hed ofc assume he’d become his normal form but theres a chance kashimo didnt know the original form had all those benefits when kenny mentioned sukuna was the greatest hed ever seen it seemed like kashimo wssnt aware if the legend of ryomen sukuna maybe he became more well known in the periods after kashimo
Idk man Kashimo telling yuta to sit tf down cause he needed to fight sukuna first will always be amazing to me but I definitely really like your interpretation of the actual fight
@@kingchaos4255 He never gains WCS by doing that, it doesn’t get that far. He just does his largest domain off rip, and while Gojo is on burn out he uses Fuga. Since no barrier conditions have been changed by that point, it isn’t sealed. Then the narrative is pretty much in a dumpster fire since Sukuna is basically still at FP if u think one Fuga would be enough to obliterate first burn out Gojo, or at least above 80% if u think he lasts a little longer until his RCT eventually gives out. And not a single person is doing a single thing at that point.
The thing about sukuna having to predict kashimo’s moves because kashimo is so much faster is exactly how I think kashimo vs sukuna should have went. I’m still sad my lighting goat got done dirty.
I also think that we should have seen more electrical phenomena and how kashimo would combine them with his overwhelming speed to overwhelm sukuna and comment on how while this may have put sukuna in a more dire situation when he was at 15 fingers of power currently kashimos attacks are not that much of a threat to sukuna and that once sukuna figures out a pattern with kashimo he will win.
It feels overlooked that the Waffled World Slash has to be the strongest form of that Attack that Sukuna could throw out i feel like that speaks to his respect for Kashimo’s strength the other JJK sorcery were getting offed with attacks way less powerful
@@TheEternalFlame57 the lightning bolt that he threw at kashimo before throwing him judo style was also used as a smokescreen to counter his speed Sukuna fights smart Gojo doesnt even get any "i was off-guard" freebie because that was the 2nd world slash, so he knew slashes could get him already both got their arms slashed while they were in mid air but Kashimo had the better reaction feat
@@Mandrake9to5 well, gojo *was* kinda off guard, sukuna was DOWN, and only through a binding vow could he even have fired a WCS if gojo hadn't stood there talking, he would have won the way i'd have written the ending of the gojo-sukuna fight would be simple, make it a quick-draw CT finisher, a binding vow between both that whoever loses the quickdraw dies in exchange for their strongest CT getting a near-instant deploy after a delay, it would have drawn more suspense, made it feel less bullshit and would have made the "instant deploy" binding vow sukuna pulled able to happen later on to make a death feel more definitive or to show a power gap but hey, gege is the writer, not me
A weakened Sukuna from soul punches and in a domain vs a domain amped Yuta could still one tap them with a contact slash. Yet Sukuna even when he got a hold of Kashimo still chose to not one tap him. Probably Sukuna was just messing around and chose to use a WCS instead but Kashimo did seem to be able to regrow limbs with his form. My cope is Sukuna couldn't one tap Kashimo at that form. Just cope. Maybe in that form gives him some sort of immunity to certain attacks or maybe a durability feat
The one thing I wanted Kashimo to do was be so fast that Sukuna's domain was incapable of hitting him, with the series ending without this feat being topped by anyone else in the series. Regardless of if he lost, won, or even scratched Sukuna, the idea that some random guy from an era without Sukuna or Gojo was still strong enough to do something impossible.
That’s how I feel too the fact that kashimo was some random dude in the do period and was considered the strongest even tho a ten shadow and six eye limitless user where in that period is crazy obviously they could have been at the start or end and the opposite of kashimo but still. I think it would have been so sick if when gojo was telling megumi about the six eyes and 10 shadow fight he mention a random guy of no known family pulling up to them lol
@@helheim4704 There's a lot of leeway in "400 years ago", but if we take it literally then Kashimo most likely just barely missed out on the six eyes limitless user - the flashback with kashimo from 400 years ago had him as already an old guy on the brink of death accepting Kenjaku's offer, whereas the last six eyes limitless user was said to be born 400 years ago
I like your idea however that's not how domains work, due to the sure-hit effect regardless of Speed the target is guaranteed to be struck by the CT so even if Kashimo could outspeed the CT outside of a domain once inside of a domain it's a different ball game. However in that case it would be far better for Kashimo to outspeed the domain by escaping it's range before being severely damaged and attack Sukuna with a beam cannon or something similar from a distance forcing Sukuna to play around Kashimo's strategy.
This, turning into electricity or rather electromagnetic wave itself should be the highest speed feat of JJK. Speed alone wouldn't beat Sukuna, but atleast the random non-big-three guy being the strongest of edo should ATLEAST be given that type of respectful sendoff.
1:15 in my opinion there was a point made about the Hein era about everyone jumping the strongest(Sukuna). Considering Kashimo was the strongest of his era he would have had the same experience of getting jumped by either specail grades or grade 1's meaning you would need to conserve your energy for many others. 2nd Sukuna still had a huge reserve of CE left after the fight cause later on against Yuta he states he has the same amount of cursed energy as him at that moment and as you know every sorcerer can see cursed energy and even weakened kashimo saw Sukunas strenth Lastly, Kashimo was just excited to be able to fight the strongest in history considering he was the first to the battle field and when sorcerers from every era jump the strongest do you think they care about the strongest being in top shape most dont they just want to win if they did care they would fight 1 on 1 not 20 v1.
I would’ve given him a domain expansion and make him do some damage to Sukuna after true form (idk, reflecting Kamutoke’s lightning and catching Sukuna off guard)
@@TheEternalFlame57 A mini arc of Kashimo going after Sukuna while Uraume is finding his fingers would’ve been good too. Gege could use it to set up some of the things Sukuna used in Shinjuku and Mei Mei could’ve send some crows to watch the fight and gather info
@@guilha1506 MBA having a domain would defeat the whole purpose of him being able to use the CT once, which is probably why he might not even be able to have a domain in the first place And if he used MBA and then pulled out his domain, it wouldn’t make sense because how would he know how to open one? In Yuji’s case, he’s technically had some sort of domain experience when body hopping, and he had Sukuna in his body too, so he was able to learn domain expansion faster. But if Kashimo didn’t have any of these things to help him, nor access to his CT, how would he even perform it?
Ngl Kashimo not having an actual fight with Sukuna really made me question his place as "The Strongest" and, therefore, his solitude. I think the fight should've been done in a way that showcased Kashimo's strength(which, i believe, should place him at no 3 to validate his existence in The Strongest). However, in order to show off Sukuna, he should counter damn near everything Kashimo throws at him in order to showcase his sheer mastery in jujutsu. For example, i beleive Kashimo should've had a domain that he casted after getting pressed by 4 arms Sukuna, and Sukuna notes on the sheer refinement of his domain after it manages to crack Sukuna's anti-domain technique, which has Sukuna note that only Gojo's would have done this. However, as the ADT breaks, Sukuna chants a World Slash, following it with that cold 'Dodge this' line, getting it off just before Kashimo's Sure Hit breaks his barrier. The World Slash chops off Kashimo's arm, breaking Kashimo's domain. That's how I imagine a Kashimo domain would've gone against Sukuna.
Also having kashimo legitimately challenge and tire out sukuna with his suicidal "fuck you I want battle" type behavior forcing sukuna to actualy be carefull aganist kashimo and tiring him out for the other sorcerers to keep up with sukuna.
One way to fix the Sukuna and Kashimo is for him to take out one of Sukuna’s staff Hetein. Like what if Uraume air dropped Sukuna both of his og weapons and we get to see Hein form suku at full full power with the staff as well. Kashimo taking out Hetein would give him sm more clout than cannon. 💯
I think the scale of that space cutting slash showcased perfectly how strong kashimo was . I don’t think people understand the attack sukuna sent at him. NO ONE could have evaded or survived that attack.
@@The.one-who.asked. If he's fully adapted to the slashes, then yeah it's obviously surviving it. Mahoraga walked through Malevolent Shrine, of course it's gonna take the WCS
MBA Kashimo would’ve looked way better if before he fought sukuna they let Uraume try to jump in and Kashimo brushes them aside similar to what Gojo did. This would have him be compared to Gojo again, furthering the “strongest of his era” narrative, show that he’s levels above Uraume, and give sukuna a reason to take him seriously.
With your version of the story Sukuna could also pull out Mahoraga and to try and test if he could use Mahoraga's adaptation for himself and how, instead of him just knowing it all of the sudden.
I genuinely think it’s a shame that sukuna didn’t witness kashimo’s sure hit without a domain, people really underestimate how crazy of a feat that is and would cost any sorcerer a lot of ce to use RCT as often as he can output his sure hit, I think sukuna would be shook that this random guy can create a sure hit without needing to use a trump card like a domain It’s funny you say use a binding vow to amp his Ct cause that’s what majority of jjk fans thought he did
I would have liked to see Kashimo awakened and gain an extension and maximum techniques. Lightning Razor - using his special property, the charge builds up in Sukuna. When he puts his hands together, the electricity cuts the body internally. But because of the Lightning in numbs the damage so the opponent is unaware of the damage they have gone through. Simple Domain: Circuit Breaker Discharge - a simple domain that pulled in electricity from Kashimo and the environment. When the opponent enters the domain, they are shocked and destroys all of the electrical signals in the body/brain. Causes the target to Black Out. Rising Thunder - allows him to form a lightning bolt from under his target moving at the same speed as one for the sky. Raijin Puppeteer - using his CE to control the electrical signals in the body to control their movements. Maximum Mystery Thunderstorm - By discharging almost all of his CE into the sky, it creates a thunderstorm for 10 minutes. If the opponents have been touched by Kashimo, the bolts will be near impossible to dodge because the target is now a Lightning Rod. If the bolt hit, it drains CE and disrupts output. If Kashimo is hit, his CE and Output are amped. If the Lightning bolt misses, then a "Lightning Clone" will appear. Clones are weaker than the original and mainly move at Lightning Speed, but they can also be boosted by the storm. After the storm, the clones will explode or fizzle away.
I wanted him to have a DE, but I made the domain into the maximum because I couldn't think of a good maximum technique 😅 I don't think Kashimo could beat Sukuna with these but I think him transforming because of these techniques would have felt more deserving. Kashimo & Ryu vs Sukuna would've been bussin
@rohanthomas6629 I get it but couldn't Geto's girls control their opponents? Takaba's Comedian made Kenjaku do whatever he wanted. Mechamaru's Puppet Manipulation has the potential to control others. When all these TH-camrs said the Reversal of Blood Manipulation was Blood Bending, did you tell them bodies couldn't be controlled? Kenjaku's CT also controls the body, given for a different reason. I'm pretty sure it's possible and even if it's not they were ideas to Buff Kashimo's CT. Also not like Chainsaw Man's Control Devil or Naruto's Genjutsu or Shadow Possession. Like muscle spasms, the brain tell the body to dodge and the body punches, blocks, steps forward, etc.
Having Kashimo lose to Sukuna so quickly is something the did make me a little annoyed when I first read, but now that the series is nearing its end I can sort of see why it happened the way it did. After all we just got done with Gojo vs Sukuna. If Kashimo vs Sukuna was so big then it would basically be two big fights back to back followed by Kenjaku vs Comedian as the only break, which would then go into Sukuna vs everyone else. Giving Kashimo a bigger battle lasting more then one chapter would be difficult and would just make the long and tedious battle even longer. Having him fight Sukuna during the one month time skip could sort of help with this but it'd ultimate be the same thing. Kashimo vs Sukuna as a bigger battle, then Gojo vs Sukuna, and then Kenjaku vs the Comedian, and then back to everyone vs Sukuna. It would just be nonstop battles with very little filler. This is actually one of my biggest gripes with JJK as a whole but that's a whole other discussion. I think Kashimo could be a good character and have a good fight if given enough time, but doing this would definitely require JJK extending well past where it is and keep going for a bit longer. In a perfect world this is what I would do for Kashimo To start with we change the Culling Game. Kashimo vs Hakari no longer happens. I know this is a good fight and sets up Hakari's character but this is focused just on Kashimo. I'm going to basically swap Hakari and Yuta's opponents. Kashimo will fight Yuta and Hakari will fight Ryu. Hakari somehow pulls out a W it doesn't really matter. What mainly matters is Kashimo vs Yuta. I would do this fight to basically set Kashimo up as being a lot stronger then he was in cannon. We know how strong Yuta is for the most part due to chapter 0. In this version of JJK have Kashimo be very skilled and strong, even more so in cannon, able to keep up with Yuta to an extent without his CT. Kashimo still can only use his power once and wants to save it for Sukuna so the battle is ultimately Kashimo who has no CT vs Yuta, the guy who has copy and has a ton of powers. Realistically Yuta would likely beat Kashimo easily but in here Kashimo is a lot stronger and fighting even. They banter for a bit going back and forth and it would eventually end with Yuta claiming the W but not killing Kashimo. He'd state Kashimo is strong and might have even won if he pulled his CT out. This sets up some stuff later and makes Kashimo comes off a bit more impressive then in the Hakari fight. Next I would have the series continue as normal up to the training time skip. Instead of a sudden jump cut Kashimo would decide to challenge Sukuna now that Sukuna was basically at full strength. He would also do this because he didn't want someone like Gojo stealing the kill. Kashimo would fight Sukuna who is in Megumi's body and the two would do battle. I would have this fight basically be a demo to the Gojo vs Sukuna fight. Meguna in his battle with Megumi's sister used only 10 shadows to show how impressive it was, but for this battle I would have Sukuna use only his OG CT. I'd also have this be the set up to him getting the world cutting slash. Basically he's using Kashimo as a testing dummy trying to find strats for his up coming battle with Gojo. This would not only show how strong Sukuna is, something we still know, but it would show that he really didn't need Megumi's body for anyone other then Gojo has his raw skills are beating Kashimo. Kashimo would begin to get pushed more and more and start to lose but would continue to give it his all. As he fights he would decide it is finally time to risk his life and would activate his full power using his CT. The one he saved just for Sukuna. He'd start to do a bit better and fight off the slashes now that he can see them and would actually begin to get a few hits in, though Sukuna still hasn't popped his domain and is just using his normal abilities. During this fight I would have it take a small break and actually have Sukuna begin to think back on his past as he battles Kashimo. I know it might be out of character, but eh. I really just want a Sukuna flash back if I'm honest. This would happen mainly because of how intense Kashimo is fighting. Sukuna showed in his battle with people like Jogo, and even Gojo he can respect them and form a connection with them even if it is a twisted hateful one. This flashback would basically show odd Sukuna's story and whatever other plot relevant junk that needs to be revealed like Kenjaku and the likes. It'd be probably ten or so chapters and would finish with showing Sukuna's origin. For people that don't like that you can instead have this flash back come from the ice person that hangs around Sukuna and have it be from their POV instead if you want Sukuna's story to remain hidden. The main take away is it would set up Sukuna as a more proper character and his views on the world and Kenjaku. It would then cut back to the present where Sukuna would keep battling Kashimo. Thanks to his CT Kashimo is dodging all the sliced since he can see them now. I would have this be the moment where Sukuna begins to truly create the blue print for the world cutting slash by creating a cut that can't be seen. This would also set up how Gojo is caught off guard by it as he wouldn't be able to see it, and this is the attack that would ultimately kill Kashimo, with Sukuna doing it all without using his domain. Kashimo would die and get his quick heaven scene and have his last words with Sukuna, who is now ready for his battle with Gojo. I would then add one last mini arc maybe a chapter or two of the JJK gang actually training and getting ready just on the off chance Gojo loses, once again truly setting up how dangerous Sukuna is since they're even considering that. It would also break up the flow of constant heavy action and could give Yuta and Hakari a bit more screen time. From there the series goes as normal, but now Kashimo's death is what Sukuna uses to start the process of his world cutting slash, and after he beats Gojo he would just instantly go into his four armed form.
As much as i am a kashimo fan the fight did what it was supposed to but i think the anime will do it justice just how sukuna vs mahoraga was like 10 pages and in the anime it was a 20min fight
The only way to fix Kahsimo vs Sukuna is by giving Kashimo help. Every sorcerer that has had a 1v1 moment with Sukuna was getting washed. Gojo put up the best fight but died. Yuta had Yuuji. Maki had a short bout with him where he was throwing her across buildings and speedblitzed her like twice until she had help. Yuuji was getting beat so bad he couldn't land a good hit in his own domain until Megumi and Nobara helped. And this was Sukuna that was weaker than his 15 fingers mode. But the problem is Kashimo did not like jumping. So he would have to concede on his way of thinking.
I'd say the best way is for him to LEGITIMATELY tire out sukuna for the other sorcerers to beat him. There WAS a ten shadows and infinity+six eyes user in his era and HE got a special nickname. Not the ten shadows user or infinity+six eyes user...so having kashimo legit be a challenge and tire out sukuna would both make sense for sukuna to not one shot everyone after getting his energy back.
@@cyberxter5382 he is a sorcerer from 400 years ago. The battle between an infinity+6 eyes and 10SH user happened in the edo period. Which was ROUGHLY about the same period.
@5:40 "A one shot" means they're power was so great that all that needed was one move to kill them/incapacitate them Nanami got back up not problem apparently. With not RCT he survived it. Maki healed that shit off screen And Naobito died two wks later so he's honestly the only person that got killed. Jogo unfortunately needed a wayyy better showing that doing what Kashimo did lol getting the last or seemingly last hit on injured combatants
If i wrote that foght i would have just done 7 chapters and make kashimo the fastest in the verse,a Domain expansion where their are electrical chains and they grab you and eletricoute you and its a one shot domain (sorry for bad grammar i not good at English)
Personally I don’t really like the idea of kashimo outspeeding sukuna in anything other than maybe the speed of their projectiles. I think it downplays the rest of the verses speed feats dramatically and makes everyone seem slower just to make sukuna look possibly a little smarter. Also I don’t really like the idea of kashimo’s technique not being very destructive. I think him being even more destructive and fast would raise the stakes and power level of the fight while not making everything else (like jogo’s fight) seem diluted. I think if gege just made the fight longer and made kashimo look as destructive or even more than ryu (who was in the same era as kashimo and implied to be weaker but never shown that he is for some reason) while still not making him quite as strong as gojo but still losing (while of course weakening him in some way)would make the gap of power between gojo and sukuna against the rest of the verse seem larger but not making anyone seem weaker. Also from a narrative perspective would make kashimo’s character and sukuna’s speech hit harder considering how minuscule he’d feel after. Love the video tho ❤❤❤
I feel like having kashimo have more in his arsenal- maybe his own version of an open domain and him showing the limits of kamutoke would be something that is good. I also think him pressuring sukuna to use the world slash rather than sukuna just doing it would add more onto the threat level. As for a binding vow, I think one that kills him is honestly hard to write around, since it would make him look weaker if he performed poorly. I'd rather it be basic binding vows/hand signs and chants to enhance his technique. I think having kashimo make a binding vow to enhance his technique and showing powers such as magnetism, flight, energy discharge or any other ability- I think this fight should have been 3 chapters minimum. I would end the battle with sukuna actually acknowledging kashimo's strength and ideals as a foreshadowing to his thoughts throughout the shinjuku raid and his thoughts on Yuji.
I would rewrite Kashimo from the time-skip onwards. First off, Kashimo should’ve learned Domain expansion, esp since he experienced Hikari, who was able to at-least (unarguably) put him in a stalemate, using a domain. Seeing how powerful it can be, esp around 3 people who could defeat him, Hikari, Yuta & Gojo. It makes absolutely no sense that he was around them for almost a full month and didn’t train with them AT ALL. He didn’t try Gojo Atleast ONCE? That makes no sense, all things considered esp his character. Next, now considering how Uraume vs Hikari went, I would’ve had Kashimo face off with Uraume, as Uraume has been shown to stand in for Sukuna, even doing so against Gojo, to their detriment. So Uraume hopping in (maybe even making an ice clone to fight Hikari?!) to fight for Sukuna while he was weak after Gojo’s fight just makes sense. Then we could see Hikari vs Uraume & Kashimo vs Uraume at the SAME TIME, to which both of them defeat their opponent. But we do see Uraume’s domain, Kashimo’s & Hikari’s (vs an opponents). We also get a much fuller Megu-kuna (still without Maho) fighting Kashimo. To which it could’ve been a much closer fight with Kashimo finishing off Megu-kuna and him going into his Heian body to which he then bodies Kashimo. Kashimo goes into MBA, pushing Sukuna but not too much. Just enough to amuse him, then he gets bored. Domain Clash. Sukuna’s domain dominates and kills Kashimo. (That way someone actually gets killed within a domain clash, in the series other than Gojo). We also would get to have Hikari in the Sukuna fight, to which some very interesting things could come up. Sukuna keeping Hikari in a stasis of healing by cutting him up over and over, could be one. Hikari failing to hit Jackpot and NOT being lucky for once. However, lucky in a different way as teammate saves him, possibly Miwa, with Simple Domain, or even Todo. Hikari & Todo anyone?! At the same time?! Would be SO HYPE! HIkari’s fever + Boogie Woogie just seems like a missed opportunity.
I like the idea of Kashimo fighting specifically Meguna. It could've started with Sukuna using only Ten Shadows (like with Yorozu) and maybe trying different shikigami combinations (so it wouldn't feel like an ass-pull when he summons Agito in his fight against Gojo) but soon realising that Kashimo is a real threat thus requiring him to use shrine.
I’d rewrite Kashimo and sukuna as kashimo burns out his curse technique against sukuna and sukuna beat him by the world dismantle, after a long fought out fight showcase high level technical fights between two of the strongest in two different eras, ultimately ending in sukuna being pushed to the brink and having to use his second form to defeat such a powerful foe.
One thing I always just had in my mind for some reason is that kashimo made a binding vow that he would die after using his ct but it amps it massively. Also I think he should have multiple different forms with his CT
I just think all you needed to do is have sukuna stay in the meguna form a bit longer. It allows kashimo to have more interesting dialogue and he seems a lot more impressive for no diffing sukuna before he transforms
If you could choose the cursed techniques Yuta copies for his arsenal, which techniques would you like him to have? Imagine Yuta had access to all the CTs of both the modern era and the past.
For this to happen I think we need a few other things to happen. Firstly, we need a larger preparation arc between the culling games and shinjuku. There can’t be an entire arc just for Kashimo vs Sukuna so this could be the climax of that particular arc. Secondly, we’d have to add a bit to the buildup for Sukuna vs everyone in shinjuku, because what gege gave us is kind of lack luster for filling out an entire arc for the students to train in. Maybe Yuji visits the kamo clan to train, gojo goes to his own clan to train and possibly develop a maximum technique, and we actually get to see nobara and todo come back. This was we can fill out time, develop the plot more, and actually have a story in an arc committed to having this fight end it. Lastly, this fight should foreshadow gojo vs Sukuna’s ending. Perhaps Sukuna learns a technique from agito or mahoraga that allows him to counter Kashimo in some way. Like if kashimos lighting is too fast or shocks him then Sukuna can use a technique to counter it. That would actually foreshadow his world slash and could build up more tension once he brings out the squad against Gojo because we’d know that he’s close to countering infinity.
My only point of disagreement is "the purpose of their fight being to make sukuna look stronger". I thought the point of the fight was to further the philosophies of sukuna and how they differ from other "strongest sorcerers".
it is sad how weak Kashimo looks because of that fight considering basic stuff like being able to damage hakari, who has higher RCT than Gojo using his staff lightning strike to break domains from outside or kill them with a sneak attack inside the domain gaining time with hollow wicker basket and killing enemies in 5 hits + lightning bolt he is indeed stronger than most domain users without a domain but the lack of fights against standard domain users doesnt let you realize that
Kashimo was hyped up to be a Gojo-level threat. Dude was throwing hands with jackpot Hakari and repeatedly besting him WITHOUT USING HIS CT. Kashimo should’ve showed up, let Megkuna fully regen, then given him a high diff fight where Sukuna wins by cleverly adapting to Kashimo’s unmatched speed and unique attacks. Hopefully MAPPA decides to draw out this fight and give us some insane choreography like they did with Sukuna v Mahoraga. Also, I rlly love ur idea of Kashimo’s CT killing him because it’s massively amped by a binding vow instead of just being a CT that dooms the user as soon as it activates.
Sukuna V Mahoraga being not even a full chapter worth of fight in the manga gave me hope. Not to mention Mechamaru. Hope they wouldn't spend all the budget on Kusakabe, Takaba, or smth idk.
Sukuna trying against Kashimo then playing around with everyone until Maki makes everyone think he's just a bum, he even reacts to Sukuna who blitzed Maki while his heart was literally gouged out. He is a BEAST, but sadly he went against the king of curses.
The translation I read of his CT was “Mythical beast Amber, reconstructs flesh to manifest phenomena.” So just make him like Marvel’s Spectrum. He could become any phenomenon/energy. Kashimo would be like the main characters in the infamous verse, but the limited information of his generation limited him to electricity. Now with modern information, he could become any phenomenon. The fight would go the same way all the way to the waffle moment, but that's when his body becoming the phenomenon comes in handy, making him just like a one-piece logia user. That would not be the only surprise, Kashimo would become tachyonic particles, pushing Sukuna, becoming too fast to keep up with, with Kashimo only getting faster, because it would use up less energy than slowing down. Destroying his body at the same time. Kashimo would need to adapt his mind, and senses to operate at those speeds, while Sukuna’s forced to create slashes that can get around Kashimo’s logia-like body, rapidly evolving his regular slashes like Jack from black clover.
I wish the time skip was like 2 months or something like that and after 1 month kashimo is contemplating on if he should join the jumping or fight sukuna and he chooses to fight sukuna and megukuna 20 fingers could fight kashimo with this being a fight that leads to the creation of world slash like in this fight sukuna discovers a way to fuse cleave and dismantle to create a ranged cleave and this ranged cleave when used with a chant becomes the world slash also instead of having world slash being cutting the world it could be thinning the cleave blade to the subatomic level to bypass infinity and the way kashimo helps him unlock that is his subatomic sound blasts
probally a controversial opinion, i believe ry was the strongest the edo period, my main argument being that he achieved domain expansion which is pinncle of jujutsu , I don't think kashimo has one
i would have Meguna claim that both Gojo and Kashimo are on the same level but fight different, since i dont think Gojo lasts much longer than Kashimo against a serious 4 arm world slash sukuna since he never dodged any slashes and 4 arms is 4 arms
@@winningindominus5543 i've ran the numbers in my head and i would estimate that Gojo and Kashimo are about even. Gojo has better defense, Kashimo has better offense
Gege straight up took out kashimo bc of plot he's hyped up that his CT is the strongest there ever was and was able to go toe to toe with a jackpot hakari witch base halari is significantly higher then 15 finger yuuji post shibuya and jackpot hakari is even more so I would say around 16-17 fingers worth of power and kashimo in base kept up with him even thought he fought sukuna who is the second strongest in the verse he should have lasted more the 5 chapters
When you bare the title of the strongest it doesn’t matter how weakened you are, you get straight heat 24/7. There is no honor system to being a sorcerer and Kashimo saw the Hakari fight as a game where Sukuna was his entire life’s purpose for the last few hundred years.
@@ronaldmcdonald4290 while that is fair it still kinda feels out of character for Kashimo at least imo. Granted at the same time like you said there is no real honor system to it
@@TheEternalFlame57 To be fair, when Kashimo got to the battlefield, I don't think he send a single attack towards Sukuna. I could be wrong, but Sukuna struck first with the cursed tool, before Kashimo negated it and started talking to him. They didn't start fighting until Sukuna told him to go all out.
i dont think you can do speed because the lightning bolt is portrayed as being very deadly and damaging and fast to charge Meguna would have to shadow dive repeatedly in order to survive that scenario
dawg the jogoat glaze is real, nobody who watches jjk blind and also doesn't powerscale and stuff is saying jogo is strong, he suffers from the same issue as kashimo because the two people he fought were the strongest and he got embarrassed both times, literally his only feats against people who can be properly scaled by the average viewer is when he blitzed naobito zenin. like I get it, jogo is strong as fuck, but the average viewer is NOT saying jogo is strong on first viewing.
Wait a minute, i just realised that sukuna could transform to his true form during gojo fight, and that means sukuna could evite making a biding vow when he killed gojo, but i get it, it makes sukuna literally undefeatable
Kashimo vs Sukuna being a filler fight really outweights any of the advantages you show in the video. Despite beings obviously fast, apart from his lightning attacks Kashimo has no outstanding speed feats. Yeah, lightning is fast, but Kashimo isn't lightning and his speed is never glazed (as much as Toji's or Naoya's, at least). If, idk, a previous Projection Sorcery user were to be established as a character of the Culling Games, or if Naoya faced Sukuna, then you can clearly recognize speed as the main advantage this "strong opponent" has, and then when Sukuna kills them you say "speed isnt enough". But this is still a relatively weak way to use the character, as: 1) Maki has already faced an opponent with overwhelming speed (human Naoya) and found a way to predict and defeat him hand to hand. We assume Sukuna to already have this level of Battle IQ by means of Mahoraga and Jogo, so this would only be a confirmation; 2) We already have Ishigoori as the "Sukuna kills powerful specialized character" thing, only with Attack Potency instead of Speed. Having it rinse and repeat over every possible battle feat is overkill and formulaic. I agree that a self-imposed Binding Vow over his CT was what needed to happen with Kashimo. I am still in disbelief Gege fumbled it that hard. Not only because this is very in character with Kashimo, as it shows confidence in his strength to face normal Culling Game opponents AND his desire to give it his all during the battle against Sukuna; Also because... One-time-use abilities, in general, are incredibly stupid. [ Unless its Mahoraga, which is a known kind of ability (shikigami) which use has been recorded many times (by previous 10S users who failed to tame it). ] E.G. the Carni stand user in JoJo's Part 5, who's existence is a known plothole. For the actual battle, my main desire is that it lasted longer. Sukuna liked to play with his food, as Higuruma's fight showed. Letting Kashimo stay alive for a couple of minutes would be in character for Sukuna. This time would be spent by Sukuna wondering about the specifications of Kashimo's technique, since EM waves are not something that can be seen or easily understood by someone from the year 1000. Kashimo would take advantage from this by using the "technique reveal" card to gain more power and entertain Sukuna more. Then, Kashimo would open his domain (because HE SHOULD HAVE ONE). Now, since Mythical Amber Beast is not centered around damaging or affecting an opponent (and the EM thing is just an application of the technique's effects), Kashimo's domain would only increment his technique's capabilities. Kashimo would be able to alter his body in much more interesting and powerful ways, similarly to Yorozu's ferrofluid. Then, once inside the domain, Sukuna stops playing as he has no domain of his own to answer. With Shrine, Sukuna manages to overwhelm Kashimo inside his own domain, and could even use Kamino against him (since Kashimo is one single opponent, and its usage could be hidden with the fact that the other characters don't know what's going on inside the domain). Anyways, Sukuna hurts Kashimo enough for the domain to collapse, and then waffles him with the World-Cutting Slash.
OKAY FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT THE WHOLE "Kashimo jumps in to fights a 10% hp sukuna" THING That always bothered me because it just seemed woefully outta character for a battle junkie like him Especially since he didn't even know Sukuna had a full hp restore. For all he knows Sukuns could've just been ended right there and boom Bro threw away his life for nothing Why Gege didn't just have him fight Meguna, give him a Night Guy "If it wasn't for my hax you would've ended me!" type speech from Sukuna (thus solidifying hid presence in the verse) Then have the REAL fight go on from there "Wait but then Sukuna wouldn't get the World Cutter???" GOOD! The world cutter is a frigging stupid move that's existence makes more questions than answers And Sukuna clearly showed he's perfectly fine and can easily clap the cast without it Just have Gojo fight Heian Era Sukuna, lose (whilst showing off his hax), and have the rest of the fight go normally as the gang faces a weakened Sukuna
I think you can tell how much the "Kashimo jumping a weakened Sukuna" annoys me cause like, it nulls and voids his literal entire character. Like it throws out a lot of what made Kashimo so loved, and I have no idea why Gege did that Also I like the rewrite you made for the fight to
@@TheEternalFlame57 1. I really like your rewrite (because it makes Kashimo a worthy person that was The Strongest of his time, whilst still progressing the story) 2. Thank you ^^! One thing I never really liked was that when Kashimo got packed, JJK fans were like "Bro you guys expected so much from a character that wasn't that hyped up that's on you" Oh my mistake I guess when Gege: >Emphasized how much he wanted to fight Sukuna frame1 >Had a specific set of hax never seen before that easily showed his battle prowess >Gave him a hidden cursed technique that he was saving specifically for Sukuna (chekovs gun) >called him THE GOD OF LIGHTNING in his introduction He was clearly just messing around I guess! He was simply trolling!
Or alternatively, you could have Sukuna just instantly go into his heian for before Kashimo jumps in, maybe Kashimo even walks away at first but sees this happen, then jumps back in to fight Sukuna.
1:05 Kashimo actually does know about the transformation. All culling game players who are cursed objects via kenjaku have the option of overwriting their vessels appearance with their own, or transforming. Yorozu intentionally kept her appearance as megumis sister during her fight with sukuna, whilst people like Uro and Kashimo immedietly returned to their original appearances. Due to Megumi also being a culling game player as a vessel for sukuna, acting as if Kashimo wouldn't know about transformation is if anything a downplay on his intelligence and BIQ.
That is honestly fair. I didn't really think about taht at the time cause this was more of a unscripted video then usual, so that's my B.
This kind of transformation just isn’t like the senzu bean that is haian era sukuna
was just abiut ti say this if they could overwrite vessel body to get their original body back hed ofc assume he’d become his normal form but theres a chance kashimo didnt know the original form had all those benefits when kenny mentioned sukuna was the greatest hed ever seen it seemed like kashimo wssnt aware if the legend of ryomen sukuna maybe he became more well known in the periods after kashimo
Kashimo didn't know that Sukuna could not only transform back but completely heal all damage done to him
do u know what chapter this was said so i can see for myself?
Idk man Kashimo telling yuta to sit tf down cause he needed to fight sukuna first will always be amazing to me but I definitely really like your interpretation of the actual fight
You know what fair enough. We need that panel lol
Let yuta fight yurame solo in his place then 😂
@@TheEternalFlame57please rewrite gojo vs sukuna fight and please make sukuna go all out
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He never gains WCS by doing that, it doesn’t get that far. He just does his largest domain off rip, and while Gojo is on burn out he uses Fuga. Since no barrier conditions have been changed by that point, it isn’t sealed. Then the narrative is pretty much in a dumpster fire since Sukuna is basically still at FP if u think one Fuga would be enough to obliterate first burn out Gojo, or at least above 80% if u think he lasts a little longer until his RCT eventually gives out. And not a single person is doing a single thing at that point.
And Yuta staring down kashimo.
The thing about sukuna having to predict kashimo’s moves because kashimo is so much faster is exactly how I think kashimo vs sukuna should have went. I’m still sad my lighting goat got done dirty.
I also think that we should have seen more electrical phenomena and how kashimo would combine them with his overwhelming speed to overwhelm sukuna and comment on how while this may have put sukuna in a more dire situation when he was at 15 fingers of power currently kashimos attacks are not that much of a threat to sukuna and that once sukuna figures out a pattern with kashimo he will win.
It feels overlooked that the Waffled World Slash has to be the strongest form of that Attack that Sukuna could throw out i feel like that speaks to his respect for Kashimo’s strength the other JJK sorcery were getting offed with attacks way less powerful
Agreed. One of my biggest issues for Kashimo is a lot of things he does gets overlooked cause it doesn't look as impressive despite being impressive
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the lightning bolt that he threw at kashimo before throwing him judo style was also used as a smokescreen to counter his speed
Sukuna fights smart
Gojo doesnt even get any "i was off-guard" freebie because that was the 2nd world slash, so he knew slashes could get him already
both got their arms slashed while they were in mid air but Kashimo had the better reaction feat
@@Mandrake9to5 well, gojo *was* kinda off guard, sukuna was DOWN, and only through a binding vow could he even have fired a WCS
if gojo hadn't stood there talking, he would have won
the way i'd have written the ending of the gojo-sukuna fight would be simple, make it a quick-draw CT finisher, a binding vow between both that whoever loses the quickdraw dies in exchange for their strongest CT getting a near-instant deploy after a delay, it would have drawn more suspense, made it feel less bullshit and would have made the "instant deploy" binding vow sukuna pulled able to happen later on to make a death feel more definitive or to show a power gap
but hey, gege is the writer, not me
@@heavygaming1167 nah bro imagine seeing the WCS cut a hollow purple in half. If Gege did that I would’ve lost it
A weakened Sukuna from soul punches and in a domain vs a domain amped Yuta could still one tap them with a contact slash. Yet Sukuna even when he got a hold of Kashimo still chose to not one tap him. Probably Sukuna was just messing around and chose to use a WCS instead but Kashimo did seem to be able to regrow limbs with his form. My cope is Sukuna couldn't one tap Kashimo at that form. Just cope. Maybe in that form gives him some sort of immunity to certain attacks or maybe a durability feat
The one thing I wanted Kashimo to do was be so fast that Sukuna's domain was incapable of hitting him, with the series ending without this feat being topped by anyone else in the series. Regardless of if he lost, won, or even scratched Sukuna, the idea that some random guy from an era without Sukuna or Gojo was still strong enough to do something impossible.
That’s how I feel too the fact that kashimo was some random dude in the do period and was considered the strongest even tho a ten shadow and six eye limitless user where in that period is crazy obviously they could have been at the start or end and the opposite of kashimo but still.
I think it would have been so sick if when gojo was telling megumi about the six eyes and 10 shadow fight he mention a random guy of no known family pulling up to them lol
@@helheim4704 There's a lot of leeway in "400 years ago", but if we take it literally then Kashimo most likely just barely missed out on the six eyes limitless user - the flashback with kashimo from 400 years ago had him as already an old guy on the brink of death accepting Kenjaku's offer, whereas the last six eyes limitless user was said to be born 400 years ago
I like your idea however that's not how domains work, due to the sure-hit effect regardless of Speed the target is guaranteed to be struck by the CT so even if Kashimo could outspeed the CT outside of a domain once inside of a domain it's a different ball game.
However in that case it would be far better for Kashimo to outspeed the domain by escaping it's range before being severely damaged and attack Sukuna with a beam cannon or something similar from a distance forcing Sukuna to play around Kashimo's strategy.
This, turning into electricity or rather electromagnetic wave itself should be the highest speed feat of JJK.
Speed alone wouldn't beat Sukuna, but atleast the random non-big-three guy being the strongest of edo should ATLEAST be given that type of respectful sendoff.
@@user-zz3sn8ky7zmy guy didn't even meet Ishigori.
1:15 in my opinion there was a point made about the Hein era about everyone jumping the strongest(Sukuna). Considering Kashimo was the strongest of his era he would have had the same experience of getting jumped by either specail grades or grade 1's meaning you would need to conserve your energy for many others.
2nd Sukuna still had a huge reserve of CE left after the fight cause later on against Yuta he states he has the same amount of cursed energy as him at that moment and as you know every sorcerer can see cursed energy and even weakened kashimo saw Sukunas strenth
Lastly, Kashimo was just excited to be able to fight the strongest in history considering he was the first to the battle field and when sorcerers from every era jump the strongest do you think they care about the strongest being in top shape most dont they just want to win if they did care they would fight 1 on 1 not 20 v1.
I would’ve given him a domain expansion and make him do some damage to Sukuna after true form (idk, reflecting Kamutoke’s lightning and catching Sukuna off guard)
Tbh that’s also fair. For me I feel like Kashimo should have fought Sukuna during the timeskip
@@TheEternalFlame57 A mini arc of Kashimo going after Sukuna while Uraume is finding his fingers would’ve been good too. Gege could use it to set up some of the things Sukuna used in Shinjuku and Mei Mei could’ve send some crows to watch the fight and gather info
I don’t know if giving him a domain would make sense since he only used his ct against Sukuna and nobody else
@@SwedishGoat Never once was this stated and Yuji got a domain after using his technique once
@@guilha1506 MBA having a domain would defeat the whole purpose of him being able to use the CT once, which is probably why he might not even be able to have a domain in the first place
And if he used MBA and then pulled out his domain, it wouldn’t make sense because how would he know how to open one? In Yuji’s case, he’s technically had some sort of domain experience when body hopping, and he had Sukuna in his body too, so he was able to learn domain expansion faster. But if Kashimo didn’t have any of these things to help him, nor access to his CT, how would he even perform it?
Ngl Kashimo not having an actual fight with Sukuna really made me question his place as "The Strongest" and, therefore, his solitude. I think the fight should've been done in a way that showcased Kashimo's strength(which, i believe, should place him at no 3 to validate his existence in The Strongest). However, in order to show off Sukuna, he should counter damn near everything Kashimo throws at him in order to showcase his sheer mastery in jujutsu. For example, i beleive Kashimo should've had a domain that he casted after getting pressed by 4 arms Sukuna, and Sukuna notes on the sheer refinement of his domain after it manages to crack Sukuna's anti-domain technique, which has Sukuna note that only Gojo's would have done this. However, as the ADT breaks, Sukuna chants a World Slash, following it with that cold 'Dodge this' line, getting it off just before Kashimo's Sure Hit breaks his barrier. The World Slash chops off Kashimo's arm, breaking Kashimo's domain. That's how I imagine a Kashimo domain would've gone against Sukuna.
Also having kashimo legitimately challenge and tire out sukuna with his suicidal "fuck you I want battle" type behavior forcing sukuna to actualy be carefull aganist kashimo and tiring him out for the other sorcerers to keep up with sukuna.
One way to fix the Sukuna and Kashimo is for him to take out one of Sukuna’s staff Hetein. Like what if Uraume air dropped Sukuna both of his og weapons and we get to see Hein form suku at full full power with the staff as well. Kashimo taking out Hetein would give him sm more clout than cannon. 💯
This 100%. His staff could amplify his slashes, which does nothing against Kashimo since he would constantly dodge them.
I think the scale of that space cutting slash showcased perfectly how strong kashimo was . I don’t think people understand the attack sukuna sent at him. NO ONE could have evaded or survived that attack.
Mahoraga maybe could have healed from it
@@The.one-who.asked. If he's fully adapted to the slashes, then yeah it's obviously surviving it. Mahoraga walked through Malevolent Shrine, of course it's gonna take the WCS
@@waluigijalapeno2080 im talking about non adapted mahoraga
@@waluigijalapeno2080 oh and takaba would have survived it easily too
Mahoraga, Hakari Jackpot (if it doesnt hit the head), Rika, Panda, aaand Takaba
My lightning goat finally get a great fight
MBA Kashimo would’ve looked way better if before he fought sukuna they let Uraume try to jump in and Kashimo brushes them aside similar to what Gojo did. This would have him be compared to Gojo again, furthering the “strongest of his era” narrative, show that he’s levels above Uraume, and give sukuna a reason to take him seriously.
With your version of the story Sukuna could also pull out Mahoraga and to try and test if he could use Mahoraga's adaptation for himself and how, instead of him just knowing it all of the sudden.
I just wish Kashimo got to do more since he was the strongest in his era..
I genuinely think it’s a shame that sukuna didn’t witness kashimo’s sure hit without a domain, people really underestimate how crazy of a feat that is and would cost any sorcerer a lot of ce to use RCT as often as he can output his sure hit, I think sukuna would be shook that this random guy can create a sure hit without needing to use a trump card like a domain
It’s funny you say use a binding vow to amp his Ct cause that’s what majority of jjk fans thought he did
Hell, even the narrator clowned on Kashimo when it said he was "Running headlong into certain death" 😂
Personally I think one or two more chapters were he damages Sukuna or does well would have made the fight so much better
i really thought kashimo was gonna do a migjt guy vs madara lvl fight but gege lost the bag heavily this could have been the best fight in the series
I would have liked to see Kashimo awakened and gain an extension and maximum techniques.
Lightning Razor - using his special property, the charge builds up in Sukuna. When he puts his hands together, the electricity cuts the body internally. But because of the Lightning in numbs the damage so the opponent is unaware of the damage they have gone through.
Simple Domain: Circuit Breaker Discharge - a simple domain that pulled in electricity from Kashimo and the environment. When the opponent enters the domain, they are shocked and destroys all of the electrical signals in the body/brain. Causes the target to Black Out.
Rising Thunder - allows him to form a lightning bolt from under his target moving at the same speed as one for the sky.
Raijin Puppeteer - using his CE to control the electrical signals in the body to control their movements.
Maximum Mystery Thunderstorm - By discharging almost all of his CE into the sky, it creates a thunderstorm for 10 minutes. If the opponents have been touched by Kashimo, the bolts will be near impossible to dodge because the target is now a Lightning Rod. If the bolt hit, it drains CE and disrupts output. If Kashimo is hit, his CE and Output are amped. If the Lightning bolt misses, then a "Lightning Clone" will appear. Clones are weaker than the original and mainly move at Lightning Speed, but they can also be boosted by the storm. After the storm, the clones will explode or fizzle away.
I wanted him to have a DE, but I made the domain into the maximum because I couldn't think of a good maximum technique 😅
I don't think Kashimo could beat Sukuna with these but I think him transforming because of these techniques would have felt more deserving.
Kashimo & Ryu vs Sukuna would've been bussin
This is why readers should never write lol
Kashimo wouldn't be able to control their movements due to the body in JJK being like a Domain.
@@n4n4sh1_ lol
@rohanthomas6629 I get it but couldn't Geto's girls control their opponents? Takaba's Comedian made Kenjaku do whatever he wanted. Mechamaru's Puppet Manipulation has the potential to control others. When all these TH-camrs said the Reversal of Blood Manipulation was Blood Bending, did you tell them bodies couldn't be controlled? Kenjaku's CT also controls the body, given for a different reason.
I'm pretty sure it's possible and even if it's not they were ideas to Buff Kashimo's CT.
Also not like Chainsaw Man's Control Devil or Naruto's Genjutsu or Shadow Possession. Like muscle spasms, the brain tell the body to dodge and the body punches, blocks, steps forward, etc.
did u read my mind or something? i vocalozied almost every opinion i was planning on doing a video on hahha
gret vid btw
Lmao thx
Having Kashimo lose to Sukuna so quickly is something the did make me a little annoyed when I first read, but now that the series is nearing its end I can sort of see why it happened the way it did. After all we just got done with Gojo vs Sukuna. If Kashimo vs Sukuna was so big then it would basically be two big fights back to back followed by Kenjaku vs Comedian as the only break, which would then go into Sukuna vs everyone else. Giving Kashimo a bigger battle lasting more then one chapter would be difficult and would just make the long and tedious battle even longer.
Having him fight Sukuna during the one month time skip could sort of help with this but it'd ultimate be the same thing. Kashimo vs Sukuna as a bigger battle, then Gojo vs Sukuna, and then Kenjaku vs the Comedian, and then back to everyone vs Sukuna. It would just be nonstop battles with very little filler. This is actually one of my biggest gripes with JJK as a whole but that's a whole other discussion.
I think Kashimo could be a good character and have a good fight if given enough time, but doing this would definitely require JJK extending well past where it is and keep going for a bit longer.
In a perfect world this is what I would do for Kashimo
To start with we change the Culling Game. Kashimo vs Hakari no longer happens. I know this is a good fight and sets up Hakari's character but this is focused just on Kashimo. I'm going to basically swap Hakari and Yuta's opponents. Kashimo will fight Yuta and Hakari will fight Ryu. Hakari somehow pulls out a W it doesn't really matter.
What mainly matters is Kashimo vs Yuta. I would do this fight to basically set Kashimo up as being a lot stronger then he was in cannon. We know how strong Yuta is for the most part due to chapter 0. In this version of JJK have Kashimo be very skilled and strong, even more so in cannon, able to keep up with Yuta to an extent without his CT. Kashimo still can only use his power once and wants to save it for Sukuna so the battle is ultimately Kashimo who has no CT vs Yuta, the guy who has copy and has a ton of powers. Realistically Yuta would likely beat Kashimo easily but in here Kashimo is a lot stronger and fighting even.
They banter for a bit going back and forth and it would eventually end with Yuta claiming the W but not killing Kashimo. He'd state Kashimo is strong and might have even won if he pulled his CT out. This sets up some stuff later and makes Kashimo comes off a bit more impressive then in the Hakari fight.
Next I would have the series continue as normal up to the training time skip. Instead of a sudden jump cut Kashimo would decide to challenge Sukuna now that Sukuna was basically at full strength. He would also do this because he didn't want someone like Gojo stealing the kill.
Kashimo would fight Sukuna who is in Megumi's body and the two would do battle. I would have this fight basically be a demo to the Gojo vs Sukuna fight. Meguna in his battle with Megumi's sister used only 10 shadows to show how impressive it was, but for this battle I would have Sukuna use only his OG CT. I'd also have this be the set up to him getting the world cutting slash. Basically he's using Kashimo as a testing dummy trying to find strats for his up coming battle with Gojo. This would not only show how strong Sukuna is, something we still know, but it would show that he really didn't need Megumi's body for anyone other then Gojo has his raw skills are beating Kashimo.
Kashimo would begin to get pushed more and more and start to lose but would continue to give it his all. As he fights he would decide it is finally time to risk his life and would activate his full power using his CT. The one he saved just for Sukuna.
He'd start to do a bit better and fight off the slashes now that he can see them and would actually begin to get a few hits in, though Sukuna still hasn't popped his domain and is just using his normal abilities.
During this fight I would have it take a small break and actually have Sukuna begin to think back on his past as he battles Kashimo. I know it might be out of character, but eh. I really just want a Sukuna flash back if I'm honest. This would happen mainly because of how intense Kashimo is fighting. Sukuna showed in his battle with people like Jogo, and even Gojo he can respect them and form a connection with them even if it is a twisted hateful one.
This flashback would basically show odd Sukuna's story and whatever other plot relevant junk that needs to be revealed like Kenjaku and the likes. It'd be probably ten or so chapters and would finish with showing Sukuna's origin. For people that don't like that you can instead have this flash back come from the ice person that hangs around Sukuna and have it be from their POV instead if you want Sukuna's story to remain hidden. The main take away is it would set up Sukuna as a more proper character and his views on the world and Kenjaku.
It would then cut back to the present where Sukuna would keep battling Kashimo. Thanks to his CT Kashimo is dodging all the sliced since he can see them now. I would have this be the moment where Sukuna begins to truly create the blue print for the world cutting slash by creating a cut that can't be seen. This would also set up how Gojo is caught off guard by it as he wouldn't be able to see it, and this is the attack that would ultimately kill Kashimo, with Sukuna doing it all without using his domain.
Kashimo would die and get his quick heaven scene and have his last words with Sukuna, who is now ready for his battle with Gojo.
I would then add one last mini arc maybe a chapter or two of the JJK gang actually training and getting ready just on the off chance Gojo loses, once again truly setting up how dangerous Sukuna is since they're even considering that. It would also break up the flow of constant heavy action and could give Yuta and Hakari a bit more screen time.
From there the series goes as normal, but now Kashimo's death is what Sukuna uses to start the process of his world cutting slash, and after he beats Gojo he would just instantly go into his four armed form.
As much as i am a kashimo fan the fight did what it was supposed to but i think the anime will do it justice just how sukuna vs mahoraga was like 10 pages and in the anime it was a 20min fight
it was 2 chapters
I want this over anything gege writes
The only way to fix Kahsimo vs Sukuna is by giving Kashimo help. Every sorcerer that has had a 1v1 moment with Sukuna was getting washed. Gojo put up the best fight but died. Yuta had Yuuji. Maki had a short bout with him where he was throwing her across buildings and speedblitzed her like twice until she had help. Yuuji was getting beat so bad he couldn't land a good hit in his own domain until Megumi and Nobara helped. And this was Sukuna that was weaker than his 15 fingers mode.
But the problem is Kashimo did not like jumping. So he would have to concede on his way of thinking.
I'd say the best way is for him to LEGITIMATELY tire out sukuna for the other sorcerers to beat him. There WAS a ten shadows and infinity+six eyes user in his era and HE got a special nickname. Not the ten shadows user or infinity+six eyes user...so having kashimo legit be a challenge and tire out sukuna would both make sense for sukuna to not one shot everyone after getting his energy back.
@@gulsum6084 When was it stated there was a 10S and Limitless user in the Era?
@@cyberxter5382 he is a sorcerer from 400 years ago. The battle between an infinity+6 eyes and 10SH user happened in the edo period. Which was ROUGHLY about the same period.
@@cyberxter5382 Btw gojo did mention it when he explained a 10SH and INF+6E user that killed eachother in the edo period
@5:40 "A one shot" means they're power was so great that all that needed was one move to kill them/incapacitate them
Nanami got back up not problem apparently. With not RCT he survived it.
Maki healed that shit off screen
And Naobito died two wks later so he's honestly the only person that got killed.
Jogo unfortunately needed a wayyy better showing that doing what Kashimo did lol getting the last or seemingly last hit on injured combatants
If i wrote that foght i would have just done 7 chapters and make kashimo the fastest in the verse,a Domain expansion where their are electrical chains and they grab you and eletricoute you and its a one shot domain (sorry for bad grammar i not good at English)
Do a vid on culling game characters full potential plz
Personally I don’t really like the idea of kashimo outspeeding sukuna in anything other than maybe the speed of their projectiles. I think it downplays the rest of the verses speed feats dramatically and makes everyone seem slower just to make sukuna look possibly a little smarter. Also I don’t really like the idea of kashimo’s technique not being very destructive. I think him being even more destructive and fast would raise the stakes and power level of the fight while not making everything else (like jogo’s fight) seem diluted. I think if gege just made the fight longer and made kashimo look as destructive or even more than ryu (who was in the same era as kashimo and implied to be weaker but never shown that he is for some reason) while still not making him quite as strong as gojo but still losing (while of course weakening him in some way)would make the gap of power between gojo and sukuna against the rest of the verse seem larger but not making anyone seem weaker. Also from a narrative perspective would make kashimo’s character and sukuna’s speech hit harder considering how minuscule he’d feel after. Love the video tho ❤❤❤
I feel like having kashimo have more in his arsenal- maybe his own version of an open domain and him showing the limits of kamutoke would be something that is good. I also think him pressuring sukuna to use the world slash rather than sukuna just doing it would add more onto the threat level. As for a binding vow, I think one that kills him is honestly hard to write around, since it would make him look weaker if he performed poorly. I'd rather it be basic binding vows/hand signs and chants to enhance his technique. I think having kashimo make a binding vow to enhance his technique and showing powers such as magnetism, flight, energy discharge or any other ability- I think this fight should have been 3 chapters minimum. I would end the battle with sukuna actually acknowledging kashimo's strength and ideals as a foreshadowing to his thoughts throughout the shinjuku raid and his thoughts on Yuji.
I would rewrite Kashimo from the time-skip onwards.
First off, Kashimo should’ve learned Domain expansion, esp since he experienced Hikari, who was able to at-least (unarguably) put him in a stalemate, using a domain. Seeing how powerful it can be, esp around 3 people who could defeat him, Hikari, Yuta & Gojo. It makes absolutely no sense that he was around them for almost a full month and didn’t train with them AT ALL. He didn’t try Gojo Atleast ONCE? That makes no sense, all things considered esp his character.
Next, now considering how Uraume vs Hikari went, I would’ve had Kashimo face off with Uraume, as Uraume has been shown to stand in for Sukuna, even doing so against Gojo, to their detriment. So Uraume hopping in (maybe even making an ice clone to fight Hikari?!) to fight for Sukuna while he was weak after Gojo’s fight just makes sense. Then we could see Hikari vs Uraume & Kashimo vs Uraume at the SAME TIME, to which both of them defeat their opponent. But we do see Uraume’s domain, Kashimo’s & Hikari’s (vs an opponents).
We also get a much fuller Megu-kuna (still without Maho) fighting Kashimo.
To which it could’ve been a much closer fight with Kashimo finishing off Megu-kuna and him going into his Heian body to which he then bodies Kashimo. Kashimo goes into MBA, pushing Sukuna but not too much. Just enough to amuse him, then he gets bored. Domain Clash. Sukuna’s domain dominates and kills Kashimo. (That way someone actually gets killed within a domain clash, in the series other than Gojo).
We also would get to have Hikari in the Sukuna fight, to which some very interesting things could come up. Sukuna keeping Hikari in a stasis of healing by cutting him up over and over, could be one. Hikari failing to hit Jackpot and NOT being lucky for once. However, lucky in a different way as teammate saves him, possibly Miwa, with Simple Domain, or even Todo. Hikari & Todo anyone?! At the same time?! Would be SO HYPE! HIkari’s fever + Boogie Woogie just seems like a missed opportunity.
I like the idea of Kashimo fighting specifically Meguna. It could've started with Sukuna using only Ten Shadows (like with Yorozu) and maybe trying different shikigami combinations (so it wouldn't feel like an ass-pull when he summons Agito in his fight against Gojo) but soon realising that Kashimo is a real threat thus requiring him to use shrine.
I’d rewrite Kashimo and sukuna as kashimo burns out his curse technique against sukuna and sukuna beat him by the world dismantle, after a long fought out fight showcase high level technical fights between two of the strongest in two different eras, ultimately ending in sukuna being pushed to the brink and having to use his second form to defeat such a powerful foe.
One thing I always just had in my mind for some reason is that kashimo made a binding vow that he would die after using his ct but it amps it massively. Also I think he should have multiple different forms with his CT
Yea i agree idc what kinji told him no way in character would Kashimo wait 1 month for his whole reason he was brought back 😭😭
I just think all you needed to do is have sukuna stay in the meguna form a bit longer. It allows kashimo to have more interesting dialogue and he seems a lot more impressive for no diffing sukuna before he transforms
If you could choose the cursed techniques Yuta copies for his arsenal, which techniques would you like him to have? Imagine Yuta had access to all the CTs of both the modern era and the past.
For this to happen I think we need a few other things to happen. Firstly, we need a larger preparation arc between the culling games and shinjuku. There can’t be an entire arc just for Kashimo vs Sukuna so this could be the climax of that particular arc. Secondly, we’d have to add a bit to the buildup for Sukuna vs everyone in shinjuku, because what gege gave us is kind of lack luster for filling out an entire arc for the students to train in. Maybe Yuji visits the kamo clan to train, gojo goes to his own clan to train and possibly develop a maximum technique, and we actually get to see nobara and todo come back.
This was we can fill out time, develop the plot more, and actually have a story in an arc committed to having this fight end it. Lastly, this fight should foreshadow gojo vs Sukuna’s ending. Perhaps Sukuna learns a technique from agito or mahoraga that allows him to counter Kashimo in some way. Like if kashimos lighting is too fast or shocks him then Sukuna can use a technique to counter it. That would actually foreshadow his world slash and could build up more tension once he brings out the squad against Gojo because we’d know that he’s close to countering infinity.
My only point of disagreement is "the purpose of their fight being to make sukuna look stronger". I thought the point of the fight was to further the philosophies of sukuna and how they differ from other "strongest sorcerers".
it is sad how weak Kashimo looks because of that fight considering basic stuff like
being able to damage hakari, who has higher RCT than Gojo
using his staff lightning strike to break domains from outside or kill them with a sneak attack inside the domain
gaining time with hollow wicker basket and killing enemies in 5 hits + lightning bolt
he is indeed stronger than most domain users without a domain but the lack of fights against standard domain users doesnt let you realize that
Kashimo was hyped up to be a Gojo-level threat. Dude was throwing hands with jackpot Hakari and repeatedly besting him WITHOUT USING HIS CT.
Kashimo should’ve showed up, let Megkuna fully regen, then given him a high diff fight where Sukuna wins by cleverly adapting to Kashimo’s unmatched speed and unique attacks.
Hopefully MAPPA decides to draw out this fight and give us some insane choreography like they did with Sukuna v Mahoraga.
Also, I rlly love ur idea of Kashimo’s CT killing him because it’s massively amped by a binding vow instead of just being a CT that dooms the user as soon as it activates.
Sukuna V Mahoraga being not even a full chapter worth of fight in the manga gave me hope.
Not to mention Mechamaru. Hope they wouldn't spend all the budget on Kusakabe, Takaba, or smth idk.
Sukuna trying against Kashimo then playing around with everyone until Maki makes everyone think he's just a bum, he even reacts to Sukuna who blitzed Maki while his heart was literally gouged out. He is a BEAST, but sadly he went against the king of curses.
The translation I read of his CT was “Mythical beast Amber, reconstructs flesh to manifest phenomena.”
So just make him like Marvel’s Spectrum. He could become any phenomenon/energy. Kashimo would be like the main characters in the infamous verse, but the limited information of his generation limited him to electricity. Now with modern information, he could become any phenomenon.
The fight would go the same way all the way to the waffle moment, but that's when his body becoming the phenomenon comes in handy, making him just like a one-piece logia user. That would not be the only surprise, Kashimo would become tachyonic particles, pushing Sukuna, becoming too fast to keep up with, with Kashimo only getting faster, because it would use up less energy than slowing down. Destroying his body at the same time.
Kashimo would need to adapt his mind, and senses to operate at those speeds, while Sukuna’s forced to create slashes that can get around Kashimo’s logia-like body, rapidly evolving his regular slashes like Jack from black clover.
This is a lot better
I wish the time skip was like 2 months or something like that and after 1 month kashimo is contemplating on if he should join the jumping or fight sukuna and he chooses to fight sukuna and megukuna 20 fingers could fight kashimo with this being a fight that leads to the creation of world slash like in this fight sukuna discovers a way to fuse cleave and dismantle to create a ranged cleave and this ranged cleave when used with a chant becomes the world slash also instead of having world slash being cutting the world it could be thinning the cleave blade to the subatomic level to bypass infinity and the way kashimo helps him unlock that is his subatomic sound blasts
As much as I don’t really care for the Culling Game I think Gege could’ve made it longer to show the strength of more of its older participants
Uraume vs Hakari next 👍🏾
Kashimo should have went out like might guy vs madara. Hopefully the anime does him justice
Kenjaku vs Yuta also goes at the top of my list in wasted fights. We never actually got to see how strong Kenjaku was
Just make it a jogo vs sukuna type fight atp because kashimo being the fastest in the verse would be glaze 😭
are we not going about how a less version of space splitting Slash could have killed yuta if he had not been teleported
you and Allons-y feel the same about when kashimo should've fought Sukuna i think
8:15 well his speeed would be irrelevant considering sukunas send this wide scale space cutting slash
I never did understand why he didnt have his own domain
Definitely could have been a replacement for the Yorozu fight.
probally a controversial opinion, i believe ry was the strongest the edo period, my main argument being that he achieved domain expansion which is pinncle of jujutsu , I don't think kashimo has one
i would have Meguna claim that both Gojo and Kashimo are on the same level but fight different, since i dont think Gojo lasts much longer than Kashimo against a serious 4 arm world slash sukuna since he never dodged any slashes and 4 arms is 4 arms
Gojo would wash floor with Kashimo and weakened 4 arm Sukuna post fight
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Mahoraga was fodder to him and he still got his arm lopped off
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i've ran the numbers in my head and i would estimate that Gojo and Kashimo are about even.
Gojo has better defense, Kashimo has better offense
@@Mandrake9to5 lmao because he adapted to almost all his ct if mahoraga adapted to wcs cleave dismantle he'd also destroy sukuna lmao
Can you do this for hakari vs Uruame
@@TheAnimeGymger Yeep but that one is gonna be quite a bit longer
I personally don’t think sukuna would have lasted too long in a fight against kashimo hence the immediate attack after he transformed
Didn’t sukana say that Gojo would be the first one he killed? Fighting Kashimo first is pretty ooc for sukana
He already killed Yorozu and Ryu by this point. Like sure Yorozu had a purpose but Ryu didn’t soooo
@@TheEternalFlame57 fair enough
Gege straight up took out kashimo bc of plot he's hyped up that his CT is the strongest there ever was and was able to go toe to toe with a jackpot hakari witch base halari is significantly higher then 15 finger yuuji post shibuya and jackpot hakari is even more so I would say around 16-17 fingers worth of power and kashimo in base kept up with him even thought he fought sukuna who is the second strongest in the verse he should have lasted more the 5 chapters
When you bare the title of the strongest it doesn’t matter how weakened you are, you get straight heat 24/7. There is no honor system to being a sorcerer and Kashimo saw the Hakari fight as a game where Sukuna was his entire life’s purpose for the last few hundred years.
@@ronaldmcdonald4290 while that is fair it still kinda feels out of character for Kashimo at least imo. Granted at the same time like you said there is no real honor system to it
@@TheEternalFlame57 To be fair, when Kashimo got to the battlefield, I don't think he send a single attack towards Sukuna. I could be wrong, but Sukuna struck first with the cursed tool, before Kashimo negated it and started talking to him. They didn't start fighting until Sukuna told him to go all out.
i dont think you can do speed because the lightning bolt is portrayed as being very deadly and damaging and fast to charge
Meguna would have to shadow dive repeatedly in order to survive that scenario
Your version is 100% better but under one circumstance, that Kashimo gets waffled as that is the absolute point of his character.
When's the Collab vid coming?🗣️🙏
Me and Kaiyo need to schedule that lol
@@TheEternalFlame57 will be waiting for the vid!🙇🙏
dawg the jogoat glaze is real, nobody who watches jjk blind and also doesn't powerscale and stuff is saying jogo is strong, he suffers from the same issue as kashimo because the two people he fought were the strongest and he got embarrassed both times, literally his only feats against people who can be properly scaled by the average viewer is when he blitzed naobito zenin. like I get it, jogo is strong as fuck, but the average viewer is NOT saying jogo is strong on first viewing.
Shouldve done a little more
Yo back aftwr long Time 😅
Kashimo needed at least 4 chapters smdh
I would have rewritten it so he got Strong Waffling Ironed immediately
Debatable
@@incognito8907 What the fuck did you just say
@@rabidcanine what you heard
@@incognito8907 That doesn’t make sense.
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It isn’t debatable that I’d rewrite it that way.
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@@TheEternalFlame57 ok, thanks
I was hoping it was gonna be might guy vs Jubidara type fight. It was not. At least your trying to make a more appealing L for the farmer😔
Anybody that kills gojo don’t get far ones
I'd have Kashimo win. Wouldn't tbat be a shock?
No, full potential kashimo is the strongest in the verse, but even current kashimo would have a chance against meguna
Wait a minute, i just realised that sukuna could transform to his true form during gojo fight, and that means sukuna could evite making a biding vow when he killed gojo, but i get it, it makes sukuna literally undefeatable
Kashimo vs Sukuna being a filler fight really outweights any of the advantages you show in the video.
Despite beings obviously fast, apart from his lightning attacks Kashimo has no outstanding speed feats. Yeah, lightning is fast, but Kashimo isn't lightning and his speed is never glazed (as much as Toji's or Naoya's, at least).
If, idk, a previous Projection Sorcery user were to be established as a character of the Culling Games, or if Naoya faced Sukuna, then you can clearly recognize speed as the main advantage this "strong opponent" has, and then when Sukuna kills them you say "speed isnt enough". But this is still a relatively weak way to use the character, as:
1) Maki has already faced an opponent with overwhelming speed (human Naoya) and found a way to predict and defeat him hand to hand. We assume Sukuna to already have this level of Battle IQ by means of Mahoraga and Jogo, so this would only be a confirmation;
2) We already have Ishigoori as the "Sukuna kills powerful specialized character" thing, only with Attack Potency instead of Speed. Having it rinse and repeat over every possible battle feat is overkill and formulaic.
I agree that a self-imposed Binding Vow over his CT was what needed to happen with Kashimo. I am still in disbelief Gege fumbled it that hard. Not only because this is very in character with Kashimo, as it shows confidence in his strength to face normal Culling Game opponents AND his desire to give it his all during the battle against Sukuna;
Also because... One-time-use abilities, in general, are incredibly stupid. [ Unless its Mahoraga, which is a known kind of ability (shikigami) which use has been recorded many times (by previous 10S users who failed to tame it). ] E.G. the Carni stand user in JoJo's Part 5, who's existence is a known plothole.
For the actual battle, my main desire is that it lasted longer. Sukuna liked to play with his food, as Higuruma's fight showed. Letting Kashimo stay alive for a couple of minutes would be in character for Sukuna.
This time would be spent by Sukuna wondering about the specifications of Kashimo's technique, since EM waves are not something that can be seen or easily understood by someone from the year 1000. Kashimo would take advantage from this by using the "technique reveal" card to gain more power and entertain Sukuna more.
Then, Kashimo would open his domain (because HE SHOULD HAVE ONE). Now, since Mythical Amber Beast is not centered around damaging or affecting an opponent (and the EM thing is just an application of the technique's effects), Kashimo's domain would only increment his technique's capabilities. Kashimo would be able to alter his body in much more interesting and powerful ways, similarly to Yorozu's ferrofluid.
Then, once inside the domain, Sukuna stops playing as he has no domain of his own to answer. With Shrine, Sukuna manages to overwhelm Kashimo inside his own domain, and could even use Kamino against him (since Kashimo is one single opponent, and its usage could be hidden with the fact that the other characters don't know what's going on inside the domain).
Anyways, Sukuna hurts Kashimo enough for the domain to collapse, and then waffles him with the World-Cutting Slash.
OKAY FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT THE WHOLE "Kashimo jumps in to fights a 10% hp sukuna" THING
That always bothered me because it just seemed woefully outta character for a battle junkie like him
Especially since he didn't even know Sukuna had a full hp restore. For all he knows Sukuns could've just been ended right there and boom
Bro threw away his life for nothing
Why Gege didn't just have him fight Meguna, give him a Night Guy "If it wasn't for my hax you would've ended me!" type speech from Sukuna (thus solidifying hid presence in the verse)
Then have the REAL fight go on from there
"Wait but then Sukuna wouldn't get the World Cutter???"
GOOD! The world cutter is a frigging stupid move that's existence makes more questions than answers
And Sukuna clearly showed he's perfectly fine and can easily clap the cast without it
Just have Gojo fight Heian Era Sukuna, lose (whilst showing off his hax), and have the rest of the fight go normally as the gang faces a weakened Sukuna
I think you can tell how much the "Kashimo jumping a weakened Sukuna" annoys me cause like, it nulls and voids his literal entire character. Like it throws out a lot of what made Kashimo so loved, and I have no idea why Gege did that
Also I like the rewrite you made for the fight to
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1. I really like your rewrite (because it makes Kashimo a worthy person that was The Strongest of his time, whilst still progressing the story)
2. Thank you ^^!
One thing I never really liked was that when Kashimo got packed, JJK fans were like
"Bro you guys expected so much from a character that wasn't that hyped up that's on you"
Oh my mistake I guess when Gege:
>Emphasized how much he wanted to fight Sukuna frame1
>Had a specific set of hax never seen before that easily showed his battle prowess
>Gave him a hidden cursed technique that he was saving specifically for Sukuna (chekovs gun)
>called him THE GOD OF LIGHTNING in his introduction
He was clearly just messing around I guess!
He was simply trolling!
Kashimo did know he had a full restore though. All incarnated sorcerers do, so of course Sukuna does.
Or alternatively, you could have Sukuna just instantly go into his heian for before Kashimo jumps in, maybe Kashimo even walks away at first but sees this happen, then jumps back in to fight Sukuna.
@@redpilledman3023 this works too tbh
That way it's like
Kashimo: "That's it? No Smash? I'm outta he-"
"Awww yeah YEAHHHHH"
Yuta victim
Debatable
no no no no stop doing this corny stuff
Why corny? Wanting something better for a character is not corny