I always liked your comments about the bookcases in the tour of the Thorsen House that Marc recorded in 2013. A big G&G bookcase project might be perfect for the new saw.
Congrats, Mr. Peart... you lucky devil! 🙂 Kidding aside, I'm very glad for you; those two machines alone bespeak of a great amount of hard work and long hours plying your craft, to be able to afford such amenities. Many happy rips on large sheets, and thick chunks of live edge lumber! 🙂
Awesome pick - you are definitely going to enjoy that saw. From a Martin owner, the Felder slider is just as smooth and is easier to push than the Martin primarily because it doesn't have the lubricating felt pad. Steve
Thanks, Steve! I learned how to use a slider on a Martin - way back when. For years I judged other sliders to my experience on the Martin. The other always came up short.
For folks thinking of a sliding table saw like this, you can't overstate the importance of the measurements. It's not just about having enough processing room in front, but if you want to ever change the blade, you need to be able to pull the table all the way to the back. Blade change is super easy when you do that, but you need to be able to do it.
@@siriosstar4789 the original plan was to knock the wall out - but the building department wouldn't allow it. Maybe if I spent some money on bribing the building inspector!
We got the Hammer K3 at about the same time if I recall. I am now looking to upgrade to a Felder with at least a 98" stroke. Thanks for the great overview.
You're welcome. The K3 was a good saw but I like my K700S so much better. I can't remember the actual stroke on my saw but it's a bit more than 98" - I can load a full sheet of ply and still have room for one of my pneumatic clamps .
Congratulations! I have a K700P. I love it. I have the apx 5' sliding table, slightly shorter than yours. My shop is only 11x15 so the table is about 1/2" from the front wall at full extension, and around 3" on the back. I can't use the outrigger table in there, though because I have an F700z in the way. Agreed about the off/on button position. I don't have them on the end of the slider, but that would be super useful. Just a quick note: that anodized sliding table top scratches super easily. Make sure there are no pin nails or anything else hard in the stock you're loading on to it.
with the edging shoe getting a straight edge is super easy on rough boards. Doing rips in prepared boards you can use the slider or you can use it like a conventional saw with the fence.
Congratz, I have a Holzer 1243 with a 126” stroke looking to sell and down size to an 8’ single phase, I considered trying to get by with a track saw but changed my mind. :). BTW nice to see someone with a slider that knows the value of the butt brace.
I carefully poured over the specs for the KF 700. I knew I couldn’t fit the outrigger or longer than the 62”(1550 mm) slider. So, track saw still for big sheets on initial breakdowns. From the all the configuration “is this correct?” emails, I think it’s an unusual configuration. February 2024 arrival date.
The specs on the Felder site do not make things crystal clear. I ordered a larger saw than I had thought I had ordered. I was able to fit it (barely) in my space though and ultimately was glad I ended up with the larger saw. I had a smaller Hammer saw to begin with . You might be able to do as I did - I used the smaller slider (using the outrigger fence) to initially cut sheet stock down to a length to accommodate the slider stroke. For me this covered the majority of my work - only rarely did I have to use other means.
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker So would whomever is in the space next door to your shop...it would have been poking through the wall! LOL BTW, I went with a short stroke this time around for the new shop. It's still just as "wide", but the stroke makes it easier to fit in to the workflow arrangement. I would have been fine with another eight footer, but I can count the number of times I really needed that length for the kinds of things I do the most and there's always the track saw for other situations.
This is one of those times I think back on when we bought this property. Much of the original shop existed and we added on to it. The builder said no problem to adding on then taking out the walls in-between to create a large open space. When we went to get the building permit - they said no way - all the walls must stay up. If the walls had come down there would have ample room for an even larger saw!
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker Gotta love it when a jurisdiction puts the kibosh on a worthy project like knocking down walls. LOL Probably could have been engineered, but then again, that can get expensive, too. No matter, that spot is great and will let you do your magic with a smile going forward.
Bought that same saw, but with a few nice extras on it, it arrived on January 10th of this year and to this day I still don’t have a complete working saw from Felder. It’s been a nightmare working with their tech support! I hope they figure it all out and maybe I can actually use this saw to its fullest capacity! Haven’t been impressed with Felder tech support at all!
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker it’s a whole host of parts problems. Things that showed up damaged. Too much to write in a post. It’s just been back and forth with them for 8+ months now. It hasn’t been a good experience for me so far. Sales person that didn’t know their saw line very well, and told me wrong information about options and future options. It been terrible!
@@tundrawhisperer4821 Are you on the East Coast? I have heard stories similar to yours from East Coasters. I dealt with the Sacramento sales office and was left was a positive impression.
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker I’m located in Milton, WA and went through the Sacramento, CA sales office. And dealing with the tech support in Delaware.
We are practically neighbors! I'm surprised. Did you deal with Fergus? The tech guy who commissioned my AD- 941 was full of good info. If it helps you are welcome to come by and compare my saw.
I think that it is irresponsible to demo a saw on video in a dangerous condition like that. Fact is that accidents happen if the operator accidentally drops something on to an unguarded blade. It can fly off like a bullet. Clearly some training needed here.
Assembly was actually fairly easy - just take your time and follow the video. The worst part was transporting the saw to my shop. I had to pick it up at a local warehouse - it is very large an very heavy!
Just before I bought my saw - my wife bought a long arm quilting machine ( more expensive than my saw) . It made it easier for me to bring up the subject of buying the saw!
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I always liked your comments about the bookcases in the tour of the Thorsen House that Marc recorded in 2013. A big G&G bookcase project might be perfect for the new saw.
I have a couple promised projects I am looking forward to. A G&G bookcase would be a fun one!
Congrats, Mr. Peart... you lucky devil! 🙂
Kidding aside, I'm very glad for you; those two machines alone bespeak of a great amount of hard work and long hours plying your craft, to be able to afford such amenities. Many happy rips on large sheets, and thick chunks of live edge lumber! 🙂
Thank you so much,Dave!
Awesome pick - you are definitely going to enjoy that saw. From a Martin owner, the Felder slider is just as smooth and is easier to push than the Martin primarily because it doesn't have the lubricating felt pad. Steve
Thanks, Steve! I learned how to use a slider on a Martin - way back when. For years I judged other sliders to my experience on the Martin. The other always came up short.
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker WOODWORKING IS FOR MAN NOT FOR BOYS
Congrats on the new equipment! Anxious to see that review after some hours are put on it.
Thank you ! I am anxious to put some hours on it.
For folks thinking of a sliding table saw like this, you can't overstate the importance of the measurements. It's not just about having enough processing room in front, but if you want to ever change the blade, you need to be able to pull the table all the way to the back. Blade change is super easy when you do that, but you need to be able to do it.
Hi Pete, Yes - very important point!
@@siriosstar4789 the original plan was to knock the wall out - but the building department wouldn't allow it. Maybe if I spent some money on bribing the building inspector!
It's awesome to work with quality machines. I have a bunch of Felder and Hammer machines to fit all needs
If I remember correctly "Hammer" and "Felder" are a subsidiary of one another?
We got the Hammer K3 at about the same time if I recall. I am now looking to upgrade to a Felder with at least a 98" stroke. Thanks for the great overview.
You're welcome. The K3 was a good saw but I like my K700S so much better. I can't remember the actual stroke on my saw but it's a bit more than 98" - I can load a full sheet of ply and still have room for one of my pneumatic clamps .
What a beautiful saw! I am still relying on my Oliver 232 and 270 saws and a modified Hammond Trim-O-Saw, which is the only slide I have ever had.
Thanks,William!
Congratulations!
I have a K700P. I love it. I have the apx 5' sliding table, slightly shorter than yours. My shop is only 11x15 so the table is about 1/2" from the front wall at full extension, and around 3" on the back. I can't use the outrigger table in there, though because I have an F700z in the way.
Agreed about the off/on button position. I don't have them on the end of the slider, but that would be super useful.
Just a quick note: that anodized sliding table top scratches super easily. Make sure there are no pin nails or anything else hard in the stock you're loading on to it.
Thanks, Pete. When I moved into this shop I never thought I would be squeezed for space If I had went for the 10" slider it would have never fit.
I still need this and a shaper to complete my shop. 😁😁😁😁
Would love to see a demonstration of performing rip cuts on a slider. Maybe a few common widths like 1.5", 3" and 6".
with the edging shoe getting a straight edge is super easy on rough boards. Doing rips in prepared boards you can use the slider or you can use it like a conventional saw with the fence.
Congratz, I have a Holzer 1243 with a 126” stroke looking to sell and down size to an 8’ single phase, I considered trying to get by with a track saw but changed my mind. :). BTW nice to see someone with a slider that knows the value of the butt brace.
Couldn’t have a slider without a butt bar!
Nice Machines 👍
Your going to love the repeatable precision you get using the saw . Cutting pieces just for fun !
I have been cutting pieces just to use the saw today - no purpose other than that!
Your shop is much bigger than mine and I am surprised it still didn't have enough room for this thing.
I have about 2,600 sq feet - but my shop is broken up into rooms which limits the usage of my space.
I carefully poured over the specs for the KF 700. I knew I couldn’t fit the outrigger or longer than the 62”(1550 mm) slider. So, track saw still for big sheets on initial breakdowns. From the all the configuration “is this correct?” emails, I think it’s an unusual configuration. February 2024 arrival date.
The specs on the Felder site do not make things crystal clear. I ordered a larger saw than I had thought I had ordered. I was able to fit it (barely) in my space though and ultimately was glad I ended up with the larger saw.
I had a smaller Hammer saw to begin with . You might be able to do as I did - I used the smaller slider (using the outrigger fence) to initially cut sheet stock down to a length to accommodate the slider stroke. For me this covered the majority of my work - only rarely did I have to use other means.
Wonderful machine...congrats!!! 'Glad it fit in there well! Good base review, too.
Thanks Jim! . I'm glad it was the width I miscalculated on . If I had mistakenly bought the ten footer - I would have been in serious trouble!
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker So would whomever is in the space next door to your shop...it would have been poking through the wall! LOL BTW, I went with a short stroke this time around for the new shop. It's still just as "wide", but the stroke makes it easier to fit in to the workflow arrangement. I would have been fine with another eight footer, but I can count the number of times I really needed that length for the kinds of things I do the most and there's always the track saw for other situations.
This is one of those times I think back on when we bought this property. Much of the original shop existed and we added on to it. The builder said no problem to adding on then taking out the walls in-between to create a large open space. When we went to get the building permit - they said no way - all the walls must stay up. If the walls had come down there would have ample room for an even larger saw!
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker Gotta love it when a jurisdiction puts the kibosh on a worthy project like knocking down walls. LOL Probably could have been engineered, but then again, that can get expensive, too. No matter, that spot is great and will let you do your magic with a smile going forward.
Bought that same saw, but with a few nice extras on it, it arrived on January 10th of this year and to this day I still don’t have a complete working saw from Felder. It’s been a nightmare working with their tech support! I hope they figure it all out and maybe I can actually use this saw to its fullest capacity! Haven’t been impressed with Felder tech support at all!
What is not working on your saw?
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker it’s a whole host of parts problems. Things that showed up damaged. Too much to write in a post. It’s just been back and forth with them for 8+ months now. It hasn’t been a good experience for me so far. Sales person that didn’t know their saw line very well, and told me wrong information about options and future options. It been terrible!
@@tundrawhisperer4821 Are you on the East Coast? I have heard stories similar to yours from East Coasters.
I dealt with the Sacramento sales office and was left was a positive impression.
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker I’m located in Milton, WA and went through the Sacramento, CA sales office. And dealing with the tech support in Delaware.
We are practically neighbors!
I'm surprised. Did you deal with Fergus? The tech guy who commissioned my AD- 941 was full of good info. If it helps you are welcome to come by and compare my saw.
Yep, a $12,000 saw is nice. Shock!
Thanks for this video. I am looking at this saw for my shop. Currently have the K3. How much wider is the new saw?
Surprised you didn’t add at least one digital flip stop. Most used item on my saw.
There’s a couple other things I would have liked to add . But buying both the machines inside of a year stressed the budget!
@@DarrellPeartFurnitureMaker ha. I know the feeling of holding to a budget. The options on these machines can get out of control quick!
Congrats! I have pretty much the same setup of the 941 and slider but have the kf700 with similar options.
If I suddenly find myself swimming in money (unlikely) - I will go back and buy every accessory Felder offers!
thank you , Stan ! Have you had your machines for a long time? How do you like them?
Spring washers stops wiggling
How do you like the saw currently?
What’s the cost for this unit in USA?
It's a wonderful saw - still love it! The cost was about $14,000 ( which includes shipping)
A bit late but Im planning on buying the same slider. But is there a reason why you didn’t choose to have an electronic up/ down/tilt display?
If my budget would have allowed it - I would have.
My Dream
It still seems like a dream to me . I can't believe I have such a magnificent machine!
No overhead blade guard?
I think that it is irresponsible to demo a saw on video in a dangerous condition like that. Fact is that accidents happen if the operator accidentally drops something on to an unguarded blade. It can fly off like a bullet. Clearly some training needed here.
Thanks for your video. How much did you pay for it?
With shipping it came to about $14,000.
How long was the delivery time, order to delivered to your shop?
Hi John, From the date of my order until it was in my shop was about 5 months.
Was assembly hard? Any tips?
Assembly was actually fairly easy - just take your time and follow the video. The worst part was transporting the saw to my shop. I had to pick it up at a local warehouse - it is very large an very heavy!
Did your wife pass out when you told you ordered this? 😃I'm telling mine it's whole lot less than a boat.
Just before I bought my saw - my wife bought a long arm quilting machine ( more expensive than my saw) . It made it easier for me to bring up the subject of buying the saw!
All I can think is kid in a candy store
Yes - and that candy store is there every morning when I walk into the shop!