I really like the simplicity of the flip cart!. My recommendation is to turn your planer so when you build your flip wings you can use them for both the planer and chopsaw! Good combo of tools if you dual purpose those wings
This is a great video. The way you did things exposed me to a few concepts I would never think of, and parts I did not know existed. The carriage bolts are genius, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out fastening methods when these would have instantly solved it. The pipe clamp to square up the top frame is one of those tricks of the trade that I probably would never have figured out on my own. The pound in inserts that clamp harder as they tighten are a great idea. I have used threaded inserts before but they don’t work great when you need things very tight or when dealing with a hollow material like ikea particle board. I clicked the video to see a few frames of your design, and ended up watching the whole thing.
I totally love your honesty in making a mistake and keeping it in your video. It makes newbies like me feel less bad about making rookie mistakes. Kudos to you!👍👏
Here's my take. And yup , I'm going to make it now thanks to you mate. First I wold have my sidewalls resting on the whole bottom square and screwed in from underneath. Then I would (going) recess my flip top to where the top is level with my saw cutting base and have a flip up shelf on both sides as an extention base for the saw workpiece. .
Hi, I am a newcomer to carpentry and I have a very reduced space to work, and I am always looking in TH-cam for ideas of how to reduce space to have all my tools and still have space to work to get full advantage of my mitter I would add flip wings to it to use a fence and line up wood, in order to do that, I would cut flush the pipe tube to the outer side, and the locking nuts I would in order not to interfiere with the wings I would cut a hole as big as the inner board of your fliping box (4 holes one in each corner) in order to handle the locking from the inside so it does not interfiere with the wings, at least that I will do when I build your excellent design which so far has been the best I have seen for the purposes I need, Thanks for doing it!!!
Love how you solved the design of the top shelf. The thickness and "screw-down" locking technique seem to give great rigidity. Most other you tube solutions I have seen end up with visibly "wobbly" results. Thank you for showing. Great video!
you have designed a great but simple workstation. you also made it very easy to follow. a solid carcase. I will get my timber together and construct the very same. thank you so much for a easy to follow video. Gerald Wales UK
Very nice video. I really love that you speeded up the video in the background for the "obvious" parts like drilling and screwing in the screws, bolts, etc. Thank you. I can't stand videos that actually show them screwing in every single screw. DUH.
Great diy design, but the best part was the Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues hat, as always LGB. Really enjoyed video, great plan and easy to follow, thanks keep up the great videos.
AmplifyDIY this is the first time I’ve seen your videos and the first thing I noticed is that you were wearing a Blues hat. You in the STL? Thanks for sharing this build, I just got the same tools but there all yellow and black. Gonna have to make this. Give me a follow on Facebook Instagram Twitter @oldmanbaysigns. Let me know if you ever need a sign made!
Hey Matt! I grew up in STL, but have not lived there in many many years. Still watch every Blues game every year, though. :-) I’ll keep you in mind for any signage...thanks for watching!
I like the wings idea. If you rotate the planer 90 degrees you could use the wings for both tools. You'll need to be careful with alignment and probably have to shim one tool to make the wings universal.
I've been wanting to make one of these for a long while, and seeing your simple & sturdy design I think I'll finally make it in a couple of days. I have a very small shop, so instead of wings on the side, my goal is to find the perfect center between the planer bed and the miter saw plate for the pivot -- that way I can (hopefully) align them both with my workbench and table saw outfeed / router table heights. Fun maths ahead. Thanks for this video!
Nice job. Exactly what I have been looking for. You did an awesome job on it. You the same as I do sometimes. Get almost complete and then it's like oh crap. Got to change something lol. Nice job though keep it up.
The wings would be a great complement, especially using heavy-duty folding shelf brackets. They could be mounted on a plate (aluminum or plexiglass) with 2 bolts on each side, those bolts being set into T tracks inset in the stand sides. This makes the wings removable and their height in reference to the machine is adjustable so it can work for the planer as well as for the miter saw. Added bonus, those wings can be stored away when not needed as they are flat once folded. Good luck!
Nice design. Your cuts are clean and accurate as well. Only issue I see is that you attached the bottom on the insides of the side panels instead of under it. Then you mounted the wheels only to the bottom panel. This puts a lot of stress on the pocket hole screws because the combined weight of both tools bear down 100% on the side panels. For anyone else building this, I'd recommend attaching the bottom panel under the side panels rather than inside of them and mount the wheels all the way out to the corners. This puts the weight straight down to the wheels and not the pocket screws.
This is a great point, and if I was building another one of these, this is exactly how I would do the bottom. Thanks for the feedback, and for watching!
Nice simple and to-the-point build. I love it. Thanks for showing your mistakes because we ALL make them but you'd never know it watching other content creators. I've been contemplating building one of these and procrastinating/overthinking the entire process. Heading into my shop now!
Thanks for the informational video. I want to build this for planer and sander. How much clearance between flip top and side? Looks pretty tight, but it works. What I really appreciate is your tutorial on drawer making and installing the hardware, I seem to fight this on every project. Good info presented in plain language.
Hi theartness1! I'm glad you liked this video. The clearance between flip top and sides is essentially zero, but there is enough play in the structure that the flip top can easily move. Once locked down at the corners though, it's completely flush against both sides. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video and thank you for sharing... I love the quality of the video angles & audio, great job.... I work at a camera store in Houston and it’s not to often you see this in wood working videos! Lol
Thank you! As I'm sure you know, a lot more work goes into a video to make it look great than just the work you see on screen. ;-) Thanks for watching!
I will be building a flip top bench for my planer and a spindle sander and I have watched countless videos for ideas. Some have been very elaborate and others pretty basic. I really like your design and especially the use of 2x4 lumber on the rotating table. I may end up Frankensteining a cart with ideas from some other videos, but most of it will be from yours. It's a simple, functional design, and I like it!
I think it would be cool if a set of wings were added that served to support stock when using the miter saw AND for infeed and outfeed of the planer. BAZINGA!
I've seen other videos that run the power cable through the center flip bar... but when I was building mine that seemed like a lot of extra effort for very little actual utility. I don't flip this thing multiple times / day, so tangled cables has never been a concern. Running power through the center bar into the cavity of the shelf is a good way to deal with that though, if it is an issue for you. Thanks for watching!
Awesome cart! I’ve watched many videos on flip carts and I like yours the best. The only thing I would do differently, I would hide my cords so they came out of the pipe... but, like I said, I like your method the best.
I'm planning on doing the same flip top design as you have done, so I was particularly interested in your layout. Originally, I drafted both tools facing "front" because no other TH-cam video showed the planer facing "sideways." When I drafted the miter saw in its operational configuration, it was obvious I was going to have to lock all the adjustable parts in their compact configuration before flipping it under so it would fit like a bat in a belfry (i.e, wings folded around its chest). I must admit, I didn't draft the planer and do a flip of it to see if it hits anything. One video shows a craftsman's planer's adjustment knob on top conflicting in his first attempt. He had to lower the drawer shelf to fix it. I wanted to avoid that. I'll go back to the CAD program and see if the planer will fit in the sideways configuration. I like your idea of having "wings" on the side of the cabinet to facilitate in- and out-feeds. This will also limit snipe on the planer. As far as using T-bolts to support the weight of a hanging planer, I never design an important structural component in an inaccessible location. If it has to be that way, I do my best to put in an "inspection port" so I can assess any deterioration in the function (i.e., don't glue the doors closed when you build your house). My planer only has 4 mounting bolts, so it is obvious the designer only expected it would be upright when in use. Let's see if they catch on to the hanging planer design. Good luck.
I'm actually planning to build just about this same thing, miter saw + planer. I plan to turn the planer 90 degrees from what you have so I can have outfeed tables on either side that match to whichever tool I have "up top" at the moment. I also plan to have a turn stop so I can either flip tool 1 up from the front, or flip tool 2 down from the front, making it so the top can never move more than 180 degrees, so I can pull the plugs into the top and plug them into a proper extension cord so they're always both plugged up, and I don't end up twisting the cords into a knot. That's about all I have in my head so far for upgrades/changes.
@@AmplifyDIYI've watched so many flip top videos, your simpler, easier to build base design with an added on mod to only allow 180 degrees for the flip tops I think will be what the doctor ordered.
Great project. I'd definitely like to see how you incorporate wings for your miter saw. I've been thinking about a similar project for my planer and oscillating sander, but with a twist. Mount the planer sideways so the flip up wings also serve as infeed/outfeed beds for the planer
This is a great idea! I’ve been so busy with other projects I have not gotten my wings designed and installed yet, but I definitely want to see if I can rotate the planer 90° so the wings can help with indeed and out feed. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@AmplifyDIY Yeah, I've been musing about how to hinge it so it clears the knobs. I don't think it would be a huge engineering problem... Probably an offset hinge. Either that or treat the infeed/outfeed wings like removable dining table leaves.
Add some walnut - lots of walnut. Who doesn't like walnut? Cool build. I love the threaded inserts for the locking mechanism. To me, that is golden. Most of these builds employ that wobbly screw with the circle on the end (forget what those are called) and then they swing in and out to lock. Your method is more elegant, more stable and just cool. Finding a spot for a sliding miter saw is indeed a challenge but I think you solved it. Mind if I steal some of your ideas?
Go nuts with the walnut! (see what I did there?) - Feel free to steal whatever ideas you like. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video and liked my design. Thanks for watching!
Great design! simple and very well though through, my only concern would be over time the lag bolts or screws that hold the planer or the saw coming loose. I would recommed a couple of holes on your 2x4 to get in below your table to install a bolt, washer, nut with locktite to secure the two machines. Thanks for sharing!
Really like the build of this compared to others I've seen. Simple, efficient and cost effective as far as I can tell. I plan on building this soon but was curious about the length of pipe you used. You mentioned in another comment that it's 3/4 inch pipe but can you tell me what kind of pipe and how long it was?
It’s a black steel pipe, 30” long, threaded at both ends. Got it off the shelf at Home Depot, I believe. Here’s a link to the exact product: www.homedepot.com/p/307727942
Nice job i was curious if it was possible to flip both to a plum height for infeed and outfeed wings. Trying to think thru how to make that happen if different heights are needed for each tool.
I've had a few viewers suggest fip-up wings that would work well for the chop saw. The planer already has its own outfeed tables (though they are pretty short... ) You may find that adding more outfeed tables (especially ones that can work at separate heights) will complicate this to the point it can't really be useful - especially if you still want the top of the table to flip. I recommend using a separate, external outfeed - or just build your flip-top so that the planer's outfeed will match the height of your existing workbench, etc. Then you can just roll the flip-top over near the workbench and use it as the outfeed... Good luck!
Thinking of making this as well and immediately thought about the wings. However I want to try and build it so the planer is turned 90 degrees so when it's flipped up for use, the tables come down and line up with the wings for extra pass through support. Solid build by the way!
This is a great idea! I still have not had time to put wings on mine, but when I do I'm also planning to rotate the planer 90º as you describe. Thanks for the tip, and thanks for watching!
Hi Yao - those are called Tee Nuts, and here are some in a common size: amzn.to/3mv3ZDT (affiliate link). Note that you'll need to make sure the size Tee Nut you buy will match the size bolts you are going to use. Thanks for watching!
I believe the threaded inserts are not a reason to not include nuts on the bolts. They are used yes so the screw is in something solid inside the piece of wood as it passes through and out the other side. I would definitely add washers and nuts to the bolts. Both tools weigh 50-75lbs and I would not want one, if not both coming loose from the vibration of the machines. But hey, it's your flip top. Other than adding those I love the simplicity of the cart. Drew Fisher made a flip top cart except in the cavity of the base the tools are attached to is a surge protector that both tools are connected to the surge protector and then the one cord of the surge protector goes out through the pipe. This way your tools are protected and the cords are not in the way when turning the top over. And either the front or back panel of the top depending on which side the surge protector is on is attached with magnets in the plywood. That is the feature I will add to your design.
I think I've seen the same video - and I thought about adding the surge protector. Ultimately I decided not to because cord management is not a big deal to me (I just wrap the cord around the tool and it stays put when being flipped). Since I didn't glue the top shelf together though, I can always add this later if I do decide that cord/power management needs to be improved. Thanks very much for the feedback and ideas - I love that about TH-cam. Have a great day!
it seems like the push-in anchors used to bolt the tools down might easily pull out from the suspended weight of the tools when upside down. perhaps carriage bolts (as used on the castors) would provide more support. great video overall.. makes me want to build one, as i also don't have a good space for my miter saw and planer.
They are really strong anchors, and the problem with a carriage bolt or nuts is that you have to have access to the underside of the board in order to install the tools. These anchors effectively make threaded holes in the board itself, so I don’t have to remove the board to install the tool.
the ink room The base of the tee nuts have significant surface area that makes it impossible to pull thru the plywood by the 70 lbs planer or 30 lbs miter saw.
Another question about those push-in anchors. Why not also use them for the side locks instead of the threaded inserts? Ah, I now realize that this would require using bolts that are long enough to go through the 2x4 as well as the plywood. Since these knobs only come with 1’’-long threaded rods, this wouldn’t work. My bad.
Hi Great build One concern, those anchors that yiu hammered into the flip top surface, is it strong enough to carry the weight of the tool when its hanging
Hi, I enjoyed your video and I'm thinking of making something similar myself. This'll definitely give me a head start I'm considering two or three changes. The two most prominent are, as people mentioned, to rotate the planer 90 degrees to work with extensions. Second, I would want to see if I could get it to line up with the height of my table saw or workbench to be able to use those for stability. It may mean no drawer for me, but I think you might be able to get some more rigidity out of a 2x4 running along the bottom. I was thinking if rotating the planer may allow me to make the central box thinner (2x3 or smaller), again, to try to line up the height with other tools for outfeed (or just use wings). More sketchy, I was wondering if cutting the pipe in half would allow me to put the machines lower still... So having two small sections of pipe rather than a single pipe. I do worry about how much stress that might cause so that idea might be just a... Pipe dream...
Looks great. I suspect you'll want to replace the 4 threaded knobs with clip-in, clip-out knobs. I don't know what these are called, but they are spring loaded, and they have 3 cylinders, such that you pull and twist to disengage them. To reengage them, you pull and twist, and the spring pulls the cylinders back into the locked position.
I’ve never seen knobs like you describe. Do you know how much clamping force they can exert? The knobs I’m using clamp very tight, which stiffens up the whole chassis and helps support the weight of the tools. But they are slow to remove, so something else that is quick to disengage but is still able to exert a lot of clamping force would be ideal. Thanks for the suggestion!
Hi Dung Beetle - the case really does need a horizontal support (or a diagonal one would be even better, but gets in the way of the flip rotation) to strengthen up the outer box against shear forces. Perhaps if you only ever flip it one direction, you could make it shorter and leave out the drawer, as long as you can add some bracing along the side you never flip through to help strengthen the body. Good luck!
Hi Gary - this is a great suggestion, and one I do plan to do when I get around to adding the infeed/outfeed to this stand. One thing I'll have to double-check is the height of the deck on both the planer and the miter saw. I may wind up needing to shim one or the other to get their decks to exactly the same height so the outfeed wings line up perfectly on both tools. Thanks for the tip, and for watching!
One great thing about working with wood there is always a way to make anything work with a little thought and problem solving that’s what I love about woodworking
The other advantage to this configuration is that the two tools are of roughly equivalent weight in many flip tops you may see a drill press matched to a sander
Great project and video. One question though, how do you determine the location of the planer and miter saw on the flipping top so it would rotate easy and balanced? Thanks for sharing.
I started with the planer, and centered it as well as I could by measuring distances from the edges. Then, when I mounted the saw, I did a similar thing. You can drastically change the center of gravity of the saw by sliding the saw blade in or out a little bit. So, it doesn’t really matter exactly where you mount it, because you can adjust how balanced it is based on just where the sawblade is positioned when you flip it. Thanks for watching!
Good idea! I’m working on a design for flip up support wings, and I think I’ll incorporate some way to both conceal and hold the pipe captive in my design. Thanks for watching!
Part of why screw knobs work so well is that they can really compress that upper joint, which helps a lot with stability of the whole thing. I’m not sure index plungers can offer the same compression strength. Great question!
I would have mounted the planer 90 degrees from where it is in the video. That way putting flip up supports on the sides can be used with both mitter and planner.
Awesome build! I'm always looking for a different take on a popular idea. My only suggestion or concern would be with shoring up the sides with another piece of ply. I'd be concerned that over time the weight would have its way with a single layer. Purely conjecture, not based on experience... Yet 🙂thanks for the ideas and motivation!
Thanks, Michael! So far it has been very sturdy, but I'll certainly keep my eye on it. Adding an additional layer of ply is a great idea. Thanks for watching!
I am a newbie with newly inherited tools. Thank you for keeping your mistake in! I need something like this for my small space. Can you please tell me what all the screws are called that you used to: 1. hold your flip top securely in place (the 4 hand screws and the weird little bolts) and 2. The threaded "nuts" that go with the carriage bolts anchored down your mitre saw and planer. Thanks for the help.
The first ones are commonly called T-Nuts: amzn.to/47GAdmi The second ones are commonly called threaded inserts: amzn.to/48BqtuU Both are generally readily available in a variety of sizes at your local home improvement store. Good luck, and thanks for watching!
Which inserts did you use for mounting the tools? The ones linked are for stabilizing the flip top. Do you find yourself "fishing" for the holes to screw the knobs into the flip top? Funny, as I was watching the video I was saying "that drawer opening is too tall..." good video.
Hi Mach51 - The nuts for holding the tools are called "T-Nuts", or "Three Prong Nuts" - here is an affiliate link to a variety of sizes: amzn.to/3Hi7J5u - I don't recall the exact size I used, just be sure it matches the mounting bolts you plan to use to mount the tools. If you are really careful with the measuring you won't have to fish around too much, but I do have to jiggle things a bit when flipping the top to get everything to line up perfectly. Thanks for watching!
I have been looking at the various designs of flip top stands, appreciate your design and the video. I do wonder though, if the drawer wasn't there, would the tools be at a more reasonable working height? It seems the chop saw is just too high and the planers always out feed mush higher than peoples workbench/assembly table/sawhorses needed for support. If doing it again, would you consider that, or is the drawer a must have?
The drawer is important to help stabilize the sides. I have not found it to be too tall, but if you decide not to include a drawer, you’ll want to brace the sides in some way to help make it more sturdy. Best of luck with your build!
This is my favorite of the flip top stands that I've seen so far. I've been putting this project off for long enough, but will definitely do in the near future. What was the final height of the drawer opening? Do you have amazon links for the knobs and threaded inserts?
Great questions! The final height of the drawer opening came to 6.5". I've added some links to some of the hardware to the video description. I actually purchased everything locally at the big blue or orange stores. I'd recommend getting the iron pipe that the top pivots on a a local store, but the rest may be easier to just order online. Note that the carriage bolts that I used were 1" in length which worked perfectly with the 3/4" plywood I was using to hide the bolts under the drawer at the bottom. If you are using different material for the body, you'll need larger or smaller bolts. Good luck with your build - I'd love to hear how it goes!
so I missed it on the video---did you put the anchors on the inside of the mounting boards on each side of the flip top? I think you did but I need to make sure. Thanks!
@@AmplifyDIY need to get the hardware parts and get this build underway. I need the space in the shop. Thank you for all of your help and willingness to share what you've learned. God bless you brother!
Nice video. But I got a question. What would happen if you turned the planer 90 degrees so if you make those wings, they would also serve as infeed and outfeed support for the planer and supports for the miter saw
Hi Alex - this is an excellent suggestion, and is something I plan to do just as soon as I have time. So many projects... so little time.... Thanks for watching!
Nice build. Fairly common stand, but I like your small touches. I especially like the carriage bolts for the wheels, it makes me cringe when others use pocket hole screws to hold the wheels on. BUT - your carriage bolts are not the ideal length. You should have 2-5 threads protruding from the nut for optimal strength. :)
Thank you for the feedback! The difficult thing about getting the exact right length of bolts is that if they protrude too far down they interfere with the movement of the wheel when it swivels. For this application, the length that I selected is plenty strong.
I am wondering if the direction of placement of the planer should be perpendicular to that shown to allow long direction to be same of the boards while cutting on the miter saw and while planing?
That’s a great suggestion! I plan to add flip up wings to serve as side supports, and they’ll work for both tools that way as well. Thanks for watching!
I just almost completed this as a project. There are some bits of information I gathered from the experience and maybe you can help. To use a 3/4 pipe some additional sanding is required as the OD of the pipe is not a standard drill size. The carriage bolts on the wheels as shown do not protrude through far enough after hammering and must me turned out with the nut to attach the wheels. The handles to secure the flip top also do not fit through a 3/4" sheet of plywood and alterations have to be made there. Once it is together and all aligned when I attempted to flip and fasten, the holes did not line up even though all sides were measured. Lastly, what is the height from the floor to the table top? I am a bit short but it is almost under my chin using the dimensions given
You need to FLIP the mitter so that the FLIPPY table on the sides serves BOTH machines - I want to build one of these - can you do a plan and share? THANK YOU!
Great video AmplifyDIY very informative. Now that you have had it for a while, do you have any issues with your tools hanging upside down? I'm concerned with that the sliding saw hanging inverted would get damaged since it was designed to sit upright. Also, do you have any issues with the slider lock slipping when flipping?
Interesting idea, makes me want to go buy a planer
I really like the simplicity of the flip cart!. My recommendation is to turn your planer so when you build your flip wings you can use them for both the planer and chopsaw! Good combo of tools if you dual purpose those wings
@@aruester9182 Is there a good guide for this type of setup? I'd like to make one for my dewalt planer and miter saw
Too bad you don’t live closer to Phoenix, I have a brand new never used WEN plainer for $185.00
This is a great video. The way you did things exposed me to a few concepts I would never think of, and parts I did not know existed. The carriage bolts are genius, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out fastening methods when these would have instantly solved it. The pipe clamp to square up the top frame is one of those tricks of the trade that I probably would never have figured out on my own. The pound in inserts that clamp harder as they tighten are a great idea. I have used threaded inserts before but they don’t work great when you need things very tight or when dealing with a hollow material like ikea particle board.
I clicked the video to see a few frames of your design, and ended up watching the whole thing.
I totally love your honesty in making a mistake and keeping it in your video. It makes newbies like me feel less bad about making rookie mistakes. Kudos to you!👍👏
I learn from my mistakes, and hope others can as well. Thanks for watching!
Maxing out a fliptop cart? Challenge accepted. Very much my style. Nice vid.
Here's my take. And yup , I'm going to make it now thanks to you mate. First I wold have my sidewalls resting on the whole bottom square and screwed in from underneath. Then I would (going) recess my flip top to where the top is level with my saw cutting base and have a flip up shelf on both sides as an extention base for the saw workpiece. .
Simple and straight-forward. I have also been looking at retractable casters
Hi, I am a newcomer to carpentry and I have a very reduced space to work, and I am always looking in TH-cam for ideas of how to reduce space to have all my tools and still have space to work to get full advantage of my mitter I would add flip wings to it to use a fence and line up wood, in order to do that, I would cut flush the pipe tube to the outer side, and the locking nuts I would in order not to interfiere with the wings I would cut a hole as big as the inner board of your fliping box (4 holes one in each corner) in order to handle the locking from the inside so it does not interfiere with the wings, at least that I will do when I build your excellent design which so far has been the best I have seen for the purposes I need, Thanks for doing it!!!
Good luck with your build!
no fancy stuff , just perfect simple
working stand
I like the locking knobs. I just built one{Fishers flip cart}, And like you mentioned , you need wings for the miter saw.
Flip out wings is exactly what I was thinking the whole time I was watching this. Great job
Awesome! Thank you!
Exactly the guide I was looking for except I'm putting a router on the other side of my miter saw instead of a planer. Great video, thanks!
Great to hear, Alex!
Love how you solved the design of the top shelf. The thickness and "screw-down" locking technique seem to give great rigidity. Most other you tube solutions I have seen end up with visibly "wobbly" results. Thank you for showing. Great video!
Thank you very much!
you have designed a great but simple workstation. you also made it very easy to follow. a solid carcase. I will get my timber together and construct the very same. thank you so much for a easy to follow video. Gerald Wales UK
Thanks, Gerald - and good luck with your build!
Super simple design...great work! Felt your pain on mis-measure. Glad to see I'm not the only one who does that ;) Great videos, enjoying them!
Thanks for the feedback, and for watching!
Such a simple setup, I’m also struggling with space thanks for sharing ❤❤
Very nice video. I really love that you speeded up the video in the background for the "obvious" parts like drilling and screwing in the screws, bolts, etc. Thank you. I can't stand videos that actually show them screwing in every single screw. DUH.
Great diy design, but the best part was the Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues hat, as always LGB. Really enjoyed video, great plan and easy to follow, thanks keep up the great videos.
We are having an amazing season so far this year! Let’s go Blues!
AmplifyDIY this is the first time I’ve seen your videos and the first thing I noticed is that you were wearing a Blues hat. You in the STL?
Thanks for sharing this build, I just got the same tools but there all yellow and black. Gonna have to make this. Give me a follow on Facebook Instagram Twitter
@oldmanbaysigns. Let me know if you ever need a sign made!
Hey Matt! I grew up in STL, but have not lived there in many many years. Still watch every Blues game every year, though. :-) I’ll keep you in mind for any signage...thanks for watching!
Great cart, and straight to the point. I just purchased a planer so I gonna build one for that and my small router table, Thanks for sharing.
I like the wings idea. If you rotate the planer 90 degrees you could use the wings for both tools. You'll need to be careful with alignment and probably have to shim one tool to make the wings universal.
I hadn’t thought of this, but it’s a great idea! Thanks!
I've been wanting to make one of these for a long while, and seeing your simple & sturdy design I think I'll finally make it in a couple of days. I have a very small shop, so instead of wings on the side, my goal is to find the perfect center between the planer bed and the miter saw plate for the pivot -- that way I can (hopefully) align them both with my workbench and table saw outfeed / router table heights. Fun maths ahead. Thanks for this video!
Good luck with your build!
Nice job. Exactly what I have been looking for. You did an awesome job on it. You the same as I do sometimes. Get almost complete and then it's like oh crap. Got to change something lol. Nice job though keep it up.
Great build. I love the idea of using those anchors. Much better than bolts, I think.
They have been working great. Thanks for watching!
This is exactly what I need to build for the exact tools. And like you mentioned, the only thing missing are the wings for the miter saw.
Very Good Easy to Make I Hope New At WoodWorking
Annnnd...Thats why pockets screws Rock. We all make mistakes. Thanks for sharing.
I’ll be doing this for my chop saw and table saw now. Nice 👍🏼
Good luck with your build - I hope it turns out great!
Have been watching many of these videos as I want to make one. Yours is the best for me! 🙂
Thanks so much 😀 I'm happy to answer any questions that come up during your build. Good luck!
The wings would be a great complement, especially using heavy-duty folding shelf brackets. They could be mounted on a plate (aluminum or plexiglass) with 2 bolts on each side, those bolts being set into T tracks inset in the stand sides. This makes the wings removable and their height in reference to the machine is adjustable so it can work for the planer as well as for the miter saw. Added bonus, those wings can be stored away when not needed as they are flat once folded. Good luck!
Great idea, thanks!
Nice design. Your cuts are clean and accurate as well. Only issue I see is that you attached the bottom on the insides of the side panels instead of under it. Then you mounted the wheels only to the bottom panel. This puts a lot of stress on the pocket hole screws because the combined weight of both tools bear down 100% on the side panels. For anyone else building this, I'd recommend attaching the bottom panel under the side panels rather than inside of them and mount the wheels all the way out to the corners. This puts the weight straight down to the wheels and not the pocket screws.
This is a great point, and if I was building another one of these, this is exactly how I would do the bottom. Thanks for the feedback, and for watching!
You're welcome. Easy fix. Just remove the wheels, put another sheet of plywood all the way across at the bottom and screw the wheels to that.
@@AmplifyDIY Is there an updated design that has the Wings? I'd love to see how this evolves.
I really like how you did this. Thanks for making this video!
Thank you!
Nice simple and to-the-point build. I love it. Thanks for showing your mistakes because we ALL make them but you'd never know it watching other content creators. I've been contemplating building one of these and procrastinating/overthinking the entire process. Heading into my shop now!
I hope yours turns out great!
I thought about the wings while you were building this. One other suggestion; face the planer so it can also utilize the wings.
Good suggestion. Thank you!
Great idea...very straightforward...
Thanks for the informational video. I want to build this for planer and sander. How much clearance between flip top and side? Looks pretty tight, but it works. What I really appreciate is your tutorial on drawer making and installing the hardware, I seem to fight this on every project. Good info presented in plain language.
Hi theartness1! I'm glad you liked this video. The clearance between flip top and sides is essentially zero, but there is enough play in the structure that the flip top can easily move. Once locked down at the corners though, it's completely flush against both sides. Thanks for watching!
I like it a lot. Great project. Thanks.
Awesome video and thank you for sharing...
I love the quality of the video angles & audio, great job....
I work at a camera store in Houston and it’s not to often you see this in wood working videos! Lol
Thank you! As I'm sure you know, a lot more work goes into a video to make it look great than just the work you see on screen. ;-) Thanks for watching!
I will be building a flip top bench for my planer and a spindle sander and I have watched countless videos for ideas. Some have been very elaborate and others pretty basic. I really like your design and especially the use of 2x4 lumber on the rotating table. I may end up Frankensteining a cart with ideas from some other videos, but most of it will be from yours. It's a simple, functional design, and I like it!
Good luck with your build! I’m happy to answer any questions that come up.
@@AmplifyDIY thanks!
I think it would be cool if a set of wings were added that served to support stock when using the miter saw AND for infeed and outfeed of the planer. BAZINGA!
Great idea! I've been trying to find time to do exactly this... but too many projects, so little time. :) Thanks for watching!
If he does that, he'd have to turn the thicknesser 90 and make the wings tall ehough for the in and outfeed. I can't figure it.
Great idea, thanks for sharing!
Good job. Interested to see if you can put a power port together for these tools that doesn't get tangled.
I've seen other videos that run the power cable through the center flip bar... but when I was building mine that seemed like a lot of extra effort for very little actual utility. I don't flip this thing multiple times / day, so tangled cables has never been a concern. Running power through the center bar into the cavity of the shelf is a good way to deal with that though, if it is an issue for you. Thanks for watching!
Awesome cart! I’ve watched many videos on flip carts and I like yours the best. The only thing I would do differently, I would hide my cords so they came out of the pipe... but, like I said, I like your method the best.
Thanks, Tom!
I'm planning on doing the same flip top design as you have done, so I was particularly interested in your layout. Originally, I drafted both tools facing "front" because no other TH-cam video showed the planer facing "sideways." When I drafted the miter saw in its operational configuration, it was obvious I was going to have to lock all the adjustable parts in their compact configuration before flipping it under so it would fit like a bat in a belfry (i.e, wings folded around its chest).
I must admit, I didn't draft the planer and do a flip of it to see if it hits anything. One video shows a craftsman's planer's adjustment knob on top conflicting in his first attempt. He had to lower the drawer shelf to fix it. I wanted to avoid that. I'll go back to the CAD program and see if the planer will fit in the sideways configuration. I like your idea of having "wings" on the side of the cabinet to facilitate in- and out-feeds. This will also limit snipe on the planer.
As far as using T-bolts to support the weight of a hanging planer, I never design an important structural component in an inaccessible location. If it has to be that way, I do my best to put in an "inspection port" so I can assess any deterioration in the function (i.e., don't glue the doors closed when you build your house). My planer only has 4 mounting bolts, so it is obvious the designer only expected it would be upright when in use. Let's see if they catch on to the hanging planer design. Good luck.
Good short informative video with cut list for free. Instantly subscribed. Good work, Gonna search for those wings on the channel!
Thanks for the sub!
Flip out wings for the saw. Love the stand will be building one.
I'm actually planning to build just about this same thing, miter saw + planer. I plan to turn the planer 90 degrees from what you have so I can have outfeed tables on either side that match to whichever tool I have "up top" at the moment. I also plan to have a turn stop so I can either flip tool 1 up from the front, or flip tool 2 down from the front, making it so the top can never move more than 180 degrees, so I can pull the plugs into the top and plug them into a proper extension cord so they're always both plugged up, and I don't end up twisting the cords into a knot. That's about all I have in my head so far for upgrades/changes.
Sounds like you have thought through the design pretty carefully. Good luck!
@@AmplifyDIYI've watched so many flip top videos, your simpler, easier to build base design with an added on mod to only allow 180 degrees for the flip tops I think will be what the doctor ordered.
U did a very nice job
Great project. I'd definitely like to see how you incorporate wings for your miter saw. I've been thinking about a similar project for my planer and oscillating sander, but with a twist. Mount the planer sideways so the flip up wings also serve as infeed/outfeed beds for the planer
This is a great idea! I’ve been so busy with other projects I have not gotten my wings designed and installed yet, but I definitely want to see if I can rotate the planer 90° so the wings can help with indeed and out feed. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@AmplifyDIY Yeah, I've been musing about how to hinge it so it clears the knobs. I don't think it would be a huge engineering problem... Probably an offset hinge. Either that or treat the infeed/outfeed wings like removable dining table leaves.
Brilliant work! Inspirational!
Nice design
Add some walnut - lots of walnut. Who doesn't like walnut? Cool build. I love the threaded inserts for the locking mechanism. To me, that is golden. Most of these builds employ that wobbly screw with the circle on the end (forget what those are called) and then they swing in and out to lock. Your method is more elegant, more stable and just cool. Finding a spot for a sliding miter saw is indeed a challenge but I think you solved it. Mind if I steal some of your ideas?
Go nuts with the walnut! (see what I did there?) - Feel free to steal whatever ideas you like. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video and liked my design. Thanks for watching!
Hey Great Video!! Great tips and instruction. Thanks so much.
Thanks for watching!
@@AmplifyDIY Hello, did you use a 3/4" pipe or 1"? Looks like 3/4. Thanks
@@AmplifyDIY Sorry NVMD found it below. Missed it earlier
Great design! simple and very well though through, my only concern would be over time the lag bolts or screws that hold the planer or the saw coming loose. I would recommed a couple of holes on your 2x4 to get in below your table to install a bolt, washer, nut with locktite to secure the two machines. Thanks for sharing!
Good suggestion. Thanks!
Thank you
Great idea, think I will!
Go for it!
Very nice. thank you.
Nice work!
Fantastic idea !!
Thank you! 😊
Great job sir I love to build one just like that.
Really like the build of this compared to others I've seen. Simple, efficient and cost effective as far as I can tell. I plan on building this soon but was curious about the length of pipe you used. You mentioned in another comment that it's 3/4 inch pipe but can you tell me what kind of pipe and how long it was?
It’s a black steel pipe, 30” long, threaded at both ends. Got it off the shelf at Home Depot, I believe. Here’s a link to the exact product:
www.homedepot.com/p/307727942
@@AmplifyDIY Perfect, thank you!
Nice job i was curious if it was possible to flip both to a plum height for infeed and outfeed wings. Trying to think thru how to make that happen if different heights are needed for each tool.
I've had a few viewers suggest fip-up wings that would work well for the chop saw. The planer already has its own outfeed tables (though they are pretty short... ) You may find that adding more outfeed tables (especially ones that can work at separate heights) will complicate this to the point it can't really be useful - especially if you still want the top of the table to flip. I recommend using a separate, external outfeed - or just build your flip-top so that the planer's outfeed will match the height of your existing workbench, etc. Then you can just roll the flip-top over near the workbench and use it as the outfeed...
Good luck!
Thinking of making this as well and immediately thought about the wings. However I want to try and build it so the planer is turned 90 degrees so when it's flipped up for use, the tables come down and line up with the wings for extra pass through support. Solid build by the way!
This is a great idea! I still have not had time to put wings on mine, but when I do I'm also planning to rotate the planer 90º as you describe. Thanks for the tip, and thanks for watching!
This is a great video. I'm going to use this to create my own cart. I also subscribed to your channel as well.
Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm happy to answer any questions that come up when you build your own. Good luck!
@@AmplifyDIY Ok Thanks.
well done thanks for sharing
Great job! Could you add a link to the anchors you used to bolt the planer to the top (at ~4:57)? Thanks!
Hi Yao - those are called Tee Nuts, and here are some in a common size: amzn.to/3mv3ZDT (affiliate link). Note that you'll need to make sure the size Tee Nut you buy will match the size bolts you are going to use. Thanks for watching!
I believe the threaded inserts are not a reason to not include nuts on the bolts. They are used yes so the screw is in something solid inside the piece of wood as it passes through and out the other side. I would definitely add washers and nuts to the bolts. Both tools weigh 50-75lbs and I would not want one, if not both coming loose from the vibration of the machines. But hey, it's your flip top. Other than adding those I love the simplicity of the cart. Drew Fisher made a flip top cart except in the cavity of the base the tools are attached to is a surge protector that both tools are connected to the surge protector and then the one cord of the surge protector goes out through the pipe. This way your tools are protected and the cords are not in the way when turning the top over. And either the front or back panel of the top depending on which side the surge protector is on is attached with magnets in the plywood. That is the feature I will add to your design.
I think I've seen the same video - and I thought about adding the surge protector. Ultimately I decided not to because cord management is not a big deal to me (I just wrap the cord around the tool and it stays put when being flipped). Since I didn't glue the top shelf together though, I can always add this later if I do decide that cord/power management needs to be improved. Thanks very much for the feedback and ideas - I love that about TH-cam. Have a great day!
If you turn the planer 90 degrees to the saw the outfield wings would work for both if you made the height adjustable
I just love this
it seems like the push-in anchors used to bolt the tools down might easily pull out from the suspended weight of the tools when upside down. perhaps carriage bolts (as used on the castors) would provide more support. great video overall.. makes me want to build one, as i also don't have a good space for my miter saw and planer.
They are really strong anchors, and the problem with a carriage bolt or nuts is that you have to have access to the underside of the board in order to install the tools. These anchors effectively make threaded holes in the board itself, so I don’t have to remove the board to install the tool.
the ink room The base of the tee nuts have significant surface area that makes it impossible to pull thru the plywood by the 70 lbs planer or 30 lbs miter saw.
Another question about those push-in anchors. Why not also use them for the side locks instead of the threaded inserts?
Ah, I now realize that this would require using bolts that are long enough to go through the 2x4 as well as the plywood. Since these knobs only come with 1’’-long threaded rods, this wouldn’t work. My bad.
Hi
Great build
One concern, those anchors that yiu hammered into the flip top surface, is it strong enough to carry the weight of the tool when its hanging
Hi Kalieb - they have been plenty strong for the 2 tools I mounted in the video. I use this cart frequently, and it works great!
Hi, I enjoyed your video and I'm thinking of making something similar myself. This'll definitely give me a head start
I'm considering two or three changes. The two most prominent are, as people mentioned, to rotate the planer 90 degrees to work with extensions. Second, I would want to see if I could get it to line up with the height of my table saw or workbench to be able to use those for stability. It may mean no drawer for me, but I think you might be able to get some more rigidity out of a 2x4 running along the bottom.
I was thinking if rotating the planer may allow me to make the central box thinner (2x3 or smaller), again, to try to line up the height with other tools for outfeed (or just use wings).
More sketchy, I was wondering if cutting the pipe in half would allow me to put the machines lower still... So having two small sections of pipe rather than a single pipe. I do worry about how much stress that might cause so that idea might be just a... Pipe dream...
LOL - Pipe dream! 😂 I'd love to hear how yours turns out. Thanks for watching!
Looks great. I suspect you'll want to replace the 4 threaded knobs with clip-in, clip-out knobs. I don't know what these are called, but they are spring loaded, and they have 3 cylinders, such that you pull and twist to disengage them. To reengage them, you pull and twist, and the spring pulls the cylinders back into the locked position.
Ah, something like this maybe: www.amazon.com/Replacement-Assembly-Little-Giant-Ladder/dp/B073ZTT8R7/
I’ve never seen knobs like you describe. Do you know how much clamping force they can exert? The knobs I’m using clamp very tight, which stiffens up the whole chassis and helps support the weight of the tools. But they are slow to remove, so something else that is quick to disengage but is still able to exert a lot of clamping force would be ideal. Thanks for the suggestion!
AmplifyDIY probably not as much clamping force as the threaded knobs.
nice but at $45 expensive, preferyour original knob although more time consuming. Great build BTW! Subribed
I want to build this for my miter saw and table saw.
hi, Great bench :-) How are you sure that the metal pipe won't slide out one day?
I recommend threading end caps onto both ends, which will hold it captive so it cannot slide out. Great question!
This is great. I want to build a shorter one, though. Would it have sufficient strength without that bottom drawer?
Hi Dung Beetle - the case really does need a horizontal support (or a diagonal one would be even better, but gets in the way of the flip rotation) to strengthen up the outer box against shear forces. Perhaps if you only ever flip it one direction, you could make it shorter and leave out the drawer, as long as you can add some bracing along the side you never flip through to help strengthen the body. Good luck!
@@AmplifyDIY Thx!!!
When you do add a in feed and out feed table to the ends make sure you turn your planer so you can use the table for it as well
Hi Gary - this is a great suggestion, and one I do plan to do when I get around to adding the infeed/outfeed to this stand. One thing I'll have to double-check is the height of the deck on both the planer and the miter saw. I may wind up needing to shim one or the other to get their decks to exactly the same height so the outfeed wings line up perfectly on both tools. Thanks for the tip, and for watching!
One great thing about working with wood there is always a way to make anything work with a little thought and problem solving that’s what I love about woodworking
The other advantage to this configuration is that the two tools are of roughly equivalent weight in many flip tops you may see a drill press matched to a sander
I dunno. My saw is 40lbs and my planer is 80lbs . 10" saw 13" planer.
Great project and video. One question though, how do you determine the location of the planer and miter saw on the flipping top so it would rotate easy and balanced? Thanks for sharing.
I started with the planer, and centered it as well as I could by measuring distances from the edges. Then, when I mounted the saw, I did a similar thing. You can drastically change the center of gravity of the saw by sliding the saw blade in or out a little bit. So, it doesn’t really matter exactly where you mount it, because you can adjust how balanced it is based on just where the sawblade is positioned when you flip it. Thanks for watching!
How is the holding power of the threaded inserts
I need one for a jointer/planer combo. It will need to be stout as both are heavy as lead!
Yeah, my planer weighs something like 82 lbs. It's a monster. Works great with this design, though. Thanks for watching!
How about adding wooden "caps" on the sides to cover in the steel pipe ends?
Good idea! I’m working on a design for flip up support wings, and I think I’ll incorporate some way to both conceal and hold the pipe captive in my design. Thanks for watching!
Would index plungers and a steel tube insert work instead of those screw knobs?
Part of why screw knobs work so well is that they can really compress that upper joint, which helps a lot with stability of the whole thing. I’m not sure index plungers can offer the same compression strength. Great question!
I would have mounted the planer 90 degrees from where it is in the video. That way putting flip up supports on the sides can be used with both mitter and planner.
Brilliant suggestion, thanks!
Awesome build! I'm always looking for a different take on a popular idea. My only suggestion or concern would be with shoring up the sides with another piece of ply. I'd be concerned that over time the weight would have its way with a single layer. Purely conjecture, not based on experience... Yet 🙂thanks for the ideas and motivation!
Thanks, Michael! So far it has been very sturdy, but I'll certainly keep my eye on it. Adding an additional layer of ply is a great idea. Thanks for watching!
I am a newbie with newly inherited tools. Thank you for keeping your mistake in! I need something like this for my small space. Can you please tell me what all the screws are called that you used to: 1. hold your flip top securely in place (the 4 hand screws and the weird little bolts) and 2. The threaded "nuts" that go with the carriage bolts anchored down your mitre saw and planer. Thanks for the help.
The first ones are commonly called T-Nuts: amzn.to/47GAdmi
The second ones are commonly called threaded inserts: amzn.to/48BqtuU
Both are generally readily available in a variety of sizes at your local home improvement store. Good luck, and thanks for watching!
did you use 3/4 hardwood plywood? thanks for the vid
It's 3/4" birch. Thanks for watching!
My question exactly! Thanks
Which inserts did you use for mounting the tools? The ones linked are for stabilizing the flip top. Do you find yourself "fishing" for the holes to screw the knobs into the flip top? Funny, as I was watching the video I was saying "that drawer opening is too tall..." good video.
Hi Mach51 - The nuts for holding the tools are called "T-Nuts", or "Three Prong Nuts" - here is an affiliate link to a variety of sizes: amzn.to/3Hi7J5u - I don't recall the exact size I used, just be sure it matches the mounting bolts you plan to use to mount the tools.
If you are really careful with the measuring you won't have to fish around too much, but I do have to jiggle things a bit when flipping the top to get everything to line up perfectly. Thanks for watching!
Perhaps add the wings like you discussed, and spin your planer 90 degrees so that the planer could also benefit from the wings.
I keep trying to find the time to circle back to this project to do exactly what you describe. So many projects, so little time... :)
I have been looking at the various designs of flip top stands, appreciate your design and the video. I do wonder though, if the drawer wasn't there, would the tools be at a more reasonable working height? It seems the chop saw is just too high and the planers always out feed mush higher than peoples workbench/assembly table/sawhorses needed for support. If doing it again, would you consider that, or is the drawer a must have?
The drawer is important to help stabilize the sides. I have not found it to be too tall, but if you decide not to include a drawer, you’ll want to brace the sides in some way to help make it more sturdy. Best of luck with your build!
Legend!
What would you use to ensure the bar doesn't slide out
Probably the easiest way is to screw some caps onto either end. This will keep it from moving side to side at all. Thanks for watching!
This is my favorite of the flip top stands that I've seen so far. I've been putting this project off for long enough, but will definitely do in the near future. What was the final height of the drawer opening? Do you have amazon links for the knobs and threaded inserts?
Great questions! The final height of the drawer opening came to 6.5". I've added some links to some of the hardware to the video description. I actually purchased everything locally at the big blue or orange stores. I'd recommend getting the iron pipe that the top pivots on a a local store, but the rest may be easier to just order online. Note that the carriage bolts that I used were 1" in length which worked perfectly with the 3/4" plywood I was using to hide the bolts under the drawer at the bottom. If you are using different material for the body, you'll need larger or smaller bolts. Good luck with your build - I'd love to hear how it goes!
so I missed it on the video---did you put the anchors on the inside of the mounting boards on each side of the flip top? I think you did but I need to make sure. Thanks!
Yup, they are on the inside, and have proven to be very sturdy. Thanks for watching!
@@AmplifyDIY need to get the hardware parts and get this build underway. I need the space in the shop. Thank you for all of your help and willingness to share what you've learned. God bless you brother!
Nice video. But I got a question. What would happen if you turned the planer 90 degrees so if you make those wings, they would also serve as infeed and outfeed support for the planer and supports for the miter saw
Hi Alex - this is an excellent suggestion, and is something I plan to do just as soon as I have time. So many projects... so little time.... Thanks for watching!
Nice build. Fairly common stand, but I like your small touches. I especially like the carriage bolts for the wheels, it makes me cringe when others use pocket hole screws to hold the wheels on. BUT - your carriage bolts are not the ideal length. You should have 2-5 threads protruding from the nut for optimal strength. :)
Thank you for the feedback! The difficult thing about getting the exact right length of bolts is that if they protrude too far down they interfere with the movement of the wheel when it swivels. For this application, the length that I selected is plenty strong.
@@AmplifyDIY What length did you use???
The use of "Ny-Lock" locking nuts on the base wheels, would have made the nuts stay tight without any worries.
Great tip!
Watching every flip top video on TH-cam I have found that everyone does a spin scene the moment all four casters have been added.
Heh - as soon as you build a toy you've got to play with it to make sure it works. :)
I am wondering if the direction of placement of the planer should be perpendicular to that shown to allow long direction to be same of the boards while cutting on the miter saw and while planing?
That’s a great suggestion! I plan to add flip up wings to serve as side supports, and they’ll work for both tools that way as well. Thanks for watching!
I just almost completed this as a project. There are some bits of information I gathered from the experience and maybe you can help. To use a 3/4 pipe some additional sanding is required as the OD of the pipe is not a standard drill size. The carriage bolts on the wheels as shown do not protrude through far enough after hammering and must me turned out with the nut to attach the wheels. The handles to secure the flip top also do not fit through a 3/4" sheet of plywood and alterations have to be made there. Once it is together and all aligned when I attempted to flip and fasten, the holes did not line up even though all sides were measured. Lastly, what is the height from the floor to the table top? I am a bit short but it is almost under my chin using the dimensions given
You need to FLIP the mitter so that the FLIPPY table on the sides serves BOTH machines - I want to build one of these - can you do a plan and share? THANK YOU!
Great video AmplifyDIY very informative. Now that you have had it for a while, do you have any issues with your tools hanging upside down?
I'm concerned with that the sliding saw hanging inverted would get damaged since it was designed to sit upright.
Also, do you have any issues with the slider lock slipping when flipping?
No issues at all. I use both tools pretty regularly, and they are both working perfectly. Thanks for watching!