Why You Won't See Kawasaki on the MotoGP Grid: The Truth Revealed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Have you ever wondered why Kawasaki doesn't race in MotoGP? In this video, I aim to answer this question that has been asked in the comments of one of my recent uploads on why BMW doesn't race in MotoGP. I'll be exploring the reasons why we don't see Kawasaki in the premier class of motorcycle racing and sharing my thoughts on the subject. If you're interested in learning more about the absence of Kawasaki in MotoGP, be sure to check out this video.
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He didn't get it quite right. The truth is this. Because of money restrictions, Kawasaki and Suzuki began sharing racing R&D. It was then agreed that Kawasaki would pursue WSBK and Suzuki would pursue MotoGp. That is why no Kawasaki in MotoGp and no Suzuki in WSBK.
You're right, dude.
Wow, I didn’t know that 👍
I wonder if that's another reason that Suzuki hasn't done squat with the 250->600 bikes. I so much want to see a GSXR-400, considering they have a GSXR-125 over in Europe/UK. Sadly I don't think aside from Kawasaki's supercharger efforts we'll any really out there bikes (a ninja 400 + supercharger would be fun).
@@paddledogs I believe you could get gsxr400s in Japan a while ago, I was looking for an upgrade to my first motorcycle (gsxr150) and was disappointed to see it wasn't available in NZ. Suzuki seems to miss their mark a lot of the time with what models they release in certain countries.
Oh wow I didnt know this thanks for the info dude, I was wondering why somehow Suzuki aren't in WSBK now I know
I luv motorcycle racing, and am a former racer myself. Kawasaki definitely made the right choice to go with WSBK instead of MotoGP. At least there’s a direct sales correlation with superbikes, but MotoGP bikes are so prototypical that most riders understand that even their full on superbike spec machine doesn’t really have much in common with a MotoGP bike, with the exception that they both have 2 wheels of course.
That's less and less true. Ducati and Yamaha's superbikes have a lot in common with their MotoGP bikes.
There is one superbike that has a faster lap record then a moto gp bike... Guess witch one.
@@johndaroza5524 Where and which?
Sounds like NASCAR haha!
Kawasaki doesnt have money to compete at moto gp 🤭
Kawasaki has rarely been competitive in MotoGP going back to the 70’s. When Gary McCoy rode for them before their last exit in the early 2000’s, he was so far off the pace that he spent the last 5 laps just doing tire-smoking slides to entertain the crowd.
Hey. Are you fan of Lockheed SR71?
@@wojak2466 yes, huge
@@shannonchurchill4556 awesome. I'm a fan from the other side of globe. Looking to build an RC jet SR 71 model someday.
@@wojak2466 I went to March Field Museum’s SR-71 symposium last weekend, and met and talked several former pilots and ground crew, including Ed Yielding, who delivered #972 to the Udvar-Hazy center in Washington D.C. while setting 5 speed records along the way. Amazing.
You are correct,kawasaki lacks the tech to make a bike both fast and reliable,its one or the other,bad engeneers,and lack of full commitment....
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Absolutely correct- winning the Isle of Man TT sells more motorcycles than MotoGP. Super bike racing has always been more relatable to road bikes than the exotic bikes that circulate in MotoGP- although moto 2 using Triumph engines is pretty damn good.
And then there is Yamaha :
MotoGP world champion 2021
Super Bike world champion 2021
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yamahahahahaha
You can add more to it . Moto America World championship , British superbike championship , wssp and the list goes on and on 😂. Yamaha won everything in 2021 ❤️
Oh I remember the all of the mid-late 2000's Kawasaki racing teams... Joan Lascorz's efforts in WSSP were a breath of fresh air. Some of Ryan Farquar's giant killing runs in IOM and Irish Road racing too. But the ZX-10's of the time were street-bike first and race platform very distant second. Only when they switched to proper trackable chassis and cassette gearboxes in the 2011 model did it start to turn. That was race bike first, road bike second. Kawasaki has done a lot to change the perspective in the last decade and when you consider that they won WSBK WC, FIM EWC WC, Le Mans 24 Moto, Suzuka 8, Isle of Mann TT Senior - pretty much most of the Superbike Majors in one year (2019) then the gamble to focus on Superbikes paid off.
back in the day when I raced you drove an El Cameno, built your bike yourself, had maybe a total investment of $ 4,500.00 in the tools, bike, and truck, making payments on all that. Your girl went with you for support, made sure you were loved and kept lap times best they could. Gas was .90 cents a gallon and you always worked for a bike shop to be able to race. This was before Vans, before teams and sponsors, you did it all. Changed tires about twice a year, made all the local races that were about up to 400 miles away one way, did long drives yourselves but had a great fun with a bunch of guys you raced against every month some were close to where you lived. If you crashed, you drove home hurting and tired, if you won you celebrated somewhere on the way home. All this went on but you made the races wounded or not, because you loved it.
Truth,I started out on a 72 Harley XRTT 750..in 1986,She was tired,was no Ballerina compared to the Japanese bikes.
Low on power,low on speed... didn't matter much,I was no pro racer by any stretch and all the races were amateurs.
I upgraded to a 1984 Kawasaki GPz550, And I did a little better with that,But no sponsor,not much money
Girlfriend at the time,was Johnny on the spot with gasoline,pre race checks and slap me on the backside and I was ready to go!
Throw the bike into my 65 Ranchero with the tools and gear...get home at 2am....4am if the Ranchero got wet from rain.
Never won anything except alot of fun and a love for anything with 2 wheels and an engine
@@stephengreene1856 yep you were there too I see I still love it, follow Moto GP and I'm building a 1963 Honda road racer in my bedroom here in Hawaii and I'm 82 years young.
Always loved Kawasaki since the 2 stroke triple days.
I’ve still got my 1984 Kawasaki GPz 550 with 28,000 miles on it, when I bought it in 2014 it only had 13,000 original miles 😉
Kawasaki are one of the GOAT manufacturers and its sad they don't get enough of a mention by channels like MCN... they are absolutely bang on with their decision... frankly I jus can't enjoy watching motogp.. it's hard to relate unless you are a motorcycle racer yourself but F1 is much more tangible to long term dedicated fans with the added technical and strategic complexity which is fascinating.... so by committing to a series which directly translates to bikes I can ride on the road Kawasaki have made an excellent choice!
Apart from the obvious plagiarism, it would have been nice to at least acknowledge where you got some of this from
Oof
If you can’t beat the best, rip them off 🫢
Great insight into the reasons from their absence from the top tier of motorcycle racing. 👍🏿
agreed
Can’t believe i saw you here Doc
Aprilia just 2 days after posting this video:
*”…and I took that personally”*
LOL
Is that a : Last Dance reference ?
You summed it up well. I love motor bikes and motor bike racing and always wondered why Kawasaki doesn't feature in Moto GP anymore. We usually don't get enough information on the behind the scenes dynamics of all this, so kudos to you buddy. I am subscribed and have clicked the notification button. I would love it if you could also embark on a feature describing the technical features of MotoGP bikes, setting them up for race day, tyre choices, chassis make up, and all that. I will ask more questions as we go along. Cheers.
Kawasaki’s withdrawal and long-term absence from MotoGP have more to do with MotoGP’s management than they do with money.
Some fans may be new to the sport so they have no recollection of what happened 15 years ago. In 2007 MotoGp switched to 800cc and 21L fuel capacity. It sent shockwaves through the paddock as the perennial front runners of MotoGP badly miscalculated the impact of the new formula. Honda, Yamaha and Michelin were reeling. Ducati, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Bridgestone were surging.
Unfortunately, the new state of affairs in MotoGP upset a majority of the GPC and its sponsors who, at the time, were deeply invested in the Honda vs Yamaha (Rossi) dynamic. For the 2008 season, Rossi received Bridgestone tires, and Stoner began complaining bitterly that Bridgestone were no longer supplying the same tires available during the 2007 season. For 2009, MotoGP moved to a Bridgestone spec tire.
None of these developments were in Kawasaki’s favor. They had invested large sums of money to develop for the 800cc formula, and attract solid riders, but the fruits of their labor were washed away by a torrent of rules changes.
Kawasaki were sacrificed by Dorna for TV money. They knew it, and they withdrew in disgust. The specific events of the past are far more important than non-specific marketing objectives like brand prestige.
As a huge Kawasaki fan, I would've still prefer for them to compete on MotoGP even if they don't win, I just want to see them competing with their Japanese cousins. Be that as it may, it seems like Kawasaki is heading towards a different path since they're spending huge amount of resources on electrification, hybrid tech and more recently, hydrogen ICE. I'm still gonna stick with them though.
Kawasaki is in WSBk and is the king there
@@deathtomorons9388 yup, but its more like they got Saviour in the name of jonathan rae. Where were they before 2015?
You forgot to mention that Tom sykes #66 took kawasaki to their first title and narrowly missed out on a second consecutive title for which loris baz failed to adhere to team orders handing the win to sylvan guintoli on the aprilia.
The size of the companies and more so the race departments are a big part also.
Suzuki for example won the motogp title with Joan mir but have been absent in wsbk and their efforts in BSB have failed to produce any real substantial fruit.
Same said for aprilia too. Their journey to success has been very challenging.
Like you say money is a factor but also where the company sees their biggest opportunity for success
and narrowly missed out to Max Biaggi as well - at Magny Cours
by 1/2 a point
Wrong. Scott Russell took Kawasaki's first WSB championship in 1993.
@@fyorbane correct but we were talking about the modern "Johnny rea" era
@@justinday7600 Your statement said 'took Kawasaki to their first title'. There was no mention of any era.
I own a 2016 ZX10R and absolutely love this bike. Can't get enough of riding it. it took me a good minute to get used to the power and handling having come off a 2001 CBR600F4i I lost in an accident but once I did manage to get used to it... what a ride! I still love the CBR1000 model and the Yamaha R1, both being considered to be added to my future plans... money pending. anyway, just thought to share a little. The Kawasaki ZX10R is a monster. I love it.
All the litre bikes are brilliant
Let's mention Tom Sykes he was at the forefront of the kawasaki's totally dominant
A poor sportsman and a cry baby..
People ride a Kawasaki's because they're a riot, not for how they do in MotoGP or any other race.
I guess it depends on how, as a consumer, one feels about the brand and what it means to you if they're successful in MotoGP or WSB. I look back at my purchases and most have not been driven by a brand's race results, but it hasn't hurt either. As far as MotoGP goes, I view it as the pinnacle of engineering prowess, where to a degree the engineers are given their greatest license to show their stuff. Saying that, Kawasaki has done great in WSB so there's no shame in that.
getting my first “bike” next saturday an Aprilia SR 50 30 kmh for my scooter licsense im taking the driving exam today in an hour gonna be so good to not go cycling everywhere anymore
Congratulations! I hope you passed your exam. Do yourself a favor and avoid listening to music while riding. Avoid distractions in general. Ride safe!
Unfortunately money dictates everything bro. For sure Kawasaki could be successful in Moto Gp as we’ve all saw how they’ve dominated WSBK over the last 6/7 years so there’s no reason they couldn’t be successful in Moto Gp but like you’ve said it just all comes down to investing time and money.
It will took long time to catch up...
I think you are wrong. Look at Suzuki. How long it took to get the title. And it was because other failed, not couse they were so good. Look at Ducati how long with no title. Aprilia, first victory, after how many years?
@@dubravkojanusic6996 I never said they’d be title winners over night but imo Kawasaki could 💯 be successful with time and investment
@@dubravkojanusic6996 duc should fire gigi...gigi wasting money and research years after years and have no titels...gigi is no longer good enough to make any significant change in that engine... 2021 was his peak Engineering Skills... Now audi should seek for someone with more knowledge and ducati can't win with all italian team..they should look outside as like honda have spanish,,japanese and italina mixed team,so is hamaha..but ducati needs this. Their bike this year is a joke compare to gp21....gp22 is a joke with only goes downgrade 😓😓😓
@@adamstratford6740 👍
I've been on alot of bikes and man you talking about a bike that holds a curve it's more fun than a roller coaster
I have been disappointed in MotoGP since the move to four strokes.
I feel the hay days of GP were wild Two Stroke racing with almost anyone could and did there hand at building up a custom built motor and bike.
Now it's only a few manufacturers and millions of dollars, it's lost that grass roots racing
And WSB is no different
MotoGP is more aligned to F1
Moto Gp would do well to implement more cost saving measures. The racing wouldn't change. Keep in mind there are lap records which haven't been topped for years
Because this never ending cost saving issue really restricted the Factory teams to spend everything to their project. Plus, with less sophisticated & cheaper Magnetti Marelli ECU that made the competition exciting it also made the bike slower especially in race pace. Just look at the Austin record of Marc made in 2014. It has only beaten last time out by Martin who didn't even managed to dip into the 21's.
Factory teams have been looking for other areas to improve thier bikes like the banned front ride height device. Unlike in the past when those manufacturers got those expensive prototyoe ECU that was only preferable to their Gp bikes. Where they put most of their money to develop it. No doubt, DORNA had to dissolve it.
the engineering would change if you cut cost
@@trevorjoneill707 Exactly, Honda, Yamaha & I guess Ducati are know to spend more or less €130 m back then especially with they have got to dev't manufacturer EcU. As the year goes DORNA have managed to cut the cost down as possible to attract other manufacturers & teams. It was good though but Im certain it affected the dev't. It became slower although the good thing is it became exciting as even customer teams can even beat the Factories now. It losses the invincibility of the Factory teams.
I've always strictly riden Kawasaki with me only stepping out once to own an SV650. There's just something about the green monsters that gets my blood pumping, they're so beautiful and I love to hear them scream.
I’m team green. I’ll follow it anywhere. I own 9 including 2 H2’s for a reason
Thank you for sharing that!
Since the seventies with Kork Ballington in the team run by my ex father in law Kawasaki lost the plot. They never really committed to the 500 class and when the four stroke era came in they failed to jump on board. Odd but perhaps they haven't been commercial enough to raise a suitable budget.
Always been a kwak fan remember kork on 350... i think ...but remember barry ditchburn and mick grant on the green meanies....
Ballington won 2 x 250 and 2 x 350 titles on Kawasaki.
@@GreenStarTech Yes he was a true double double world champion and all under the team management of my ex father in law.
@@borjastick Don't forget Tony Mang.
Great informative video! You have a new follower 👍 I especially like how you mentioned the coming electric technology as being a factor. I’ll be the first to admit, I know it’s coming, and honestly, I cringe when I think of if. I understand the level of performance they are getting out of EV’s and maybe I’ll change my opinion when I have a chance to ride one. To me however, there’s little excitement and way less emotion tied in with EV’s. I struggled to watch MotoE when I had it - It’s cool, but it just doesn’t carry the same level of excitement and emotion. When I think of electric vehicles becoming the norm, I’m reminded of the old Rush song, Red Barchetta - a song about a time when engines are outlawed. In my version, you just need to replace the Barchetta in the barn with an old dusty GSXR or R1. I guess I’ll be the old dude with the classic bikes..
Id mess with hybrid or hydrogen but NO full E bike. I need some sounds and more importantly gears!
Jonny Rea is a great rider and that team have had their stuff together and have for years. No other rider has been able to do much with that brand.
How can KTM afford MotoGP? Is Red Bull really throwing that much money at them?
in short, yes... red bull is very very very rich company whose owner is a petrol head.. not to mention that both red bull and ktm are austrians
And also a small factory like Aprilia have aford to stay on MotoGp
bro, you failed to mention the rider that ended the losing streak in wsbk. Tom Sykes ended it in 2013!! He was World Champion on the Zed-X10 R!! Johnny Rea won all those titles on Sykes championship winning bike!
Kawasaki Ninja ZX-RR Screamer .. wow that sound!!
I have the same riding suit as you got hanging there as well as my Arai RX7 GP. Dani Pedrosa edition.
give Tom Sykes some credit man... he gave Kawasaki their first modern era title way before Rae was wearing green
Do not forget Scott Russell.
Fascinating. Thank you.
I do not agree,
I wish to see BMW and KAWA on the grid...
Getting in to points and and gettings a short distance from the front runner is somethings amazing...
0.5 seconds in MotoGP is the difference from first to 20 now....How is that undervalued ?
Aprilia has been amazing, even before winning.
I had Aprilias before, not because of the bad results in MotoGP, because they stay true to the type of motorcycle they want to build.
Nothing beats a Aprilia Tuono V4... Simply an amazing bike.
there is a lot of talk in Germany that BMW is coming back to Moto GP
@@trevorjoneill707 I wish. I am not a BMW Motorcycle fan except for the XR 1000. But it would be nice to have another factory...
8 Ducatis on the grid is a little to much..
@@lukescrapwalker agree
Very interesting.Cheers pal.
No opinion on Kawasaki and MotoGP but I do have one about this channel. It’s excellent. So informative and well done. This edition is one of the clearest, cleanest explanations I have ever seen on TH-cam about ANYTHING! Kudos, man!
One of my life's biggest question has been answered
I hope im the first comment n I love your videos bro❤️❤️❤️
You win 🏆
I remember when BMW,was racing in World Superbike-years back!
Thank you, very good content.
Kawasaki is trying to get back in MotoGP with the zx10rr. But MotoGP will not allow it. they want Kawasaki to make a complete new prototype bike. Apparently motogp's afraid to allow a regular street bike to compete it made look bad for the rest if they start winning.
And motogp will banned H2 engine. Because they are too fast
Educational content great I'm all ears.
Kawasaki is a great motorcycle factory, but, I really don't miss them in MotoGP racing...
You didn't mention the situation regarding harold eckl!
huh... I didn't know Kawi doesn't compete. I don't watch any motorsports unfortunately, due to not wanting to pay outrageous prices for those channels. The only MGP influence that took part in my life was when I bought my 2006 600RR. It had been laid down and the fairings were trashed. I had seen the Repsol livery back in my early 20's and I always loved how it looked, so I had a set made for my bike. Still rippin around on it 7 years later. Love that machine.
Interesting Discussion! Why Kawasaki not in Motogp is mostly due to Commercial reason! Probably it a wise decision it's not technical, These days they have most advance Motorcycle with lots of Next gen Technology . But Motogp is definitely a money sipper. Hypothetically if Kawasaki races in Motogp in coming years they would like to finish of in top 3 level at Constructor championship. Otherwise it's not justified the investment and even with that results it's not sure to return the desired ROI. So without that now they are in good spot with WSBK. However like to See Kawasaki on Motogp grid at least to finish within top 10 . But most unlikely to happen. Ride safely.
Kawasaki made arguably one of the best business decisions ever by not going into MotoGP. The bikes in MotoGP have little to no relationship to the sport bikes sold to the public. WSBK is a far more interesting platform for riders/fans like me who can purchase machines which have much of the DNA of the machines racing.
I may be alone here but if motorcycle racing ever goes electric I will stop watching! The smells and sound are 80% of the game.
The decision to opt for the SuperBike series is good, say anyone who is looking for a motorcycle with extreme performance knows that the suberbike series are based on factory motorcycles. I am bothered by the limit of 1000 cm3 power limit because the durability decreases
Can you please make a vid on why MV Agusta aren’t in MotoGP?
No need they can't afford it
Kevin S. #34 helmet is awesome.
Kawasaki have always had a reputation for being bulletproof
and with the ZZR series been fast rocket ships however as it has always been professed more of a hobby for Kawasaki heavy industries high Breds I can sort of tolerate hydrogen better by far
But you can stick electric motorcycle where the sun doesn’t shine
Amen brother 😂 couldn't agree with u more. I can't imagine roaming the streets on a vacuum cleaners myself. if it isn't making noise, it is dead. Batteries are garbage
Excellent information
Motogp is the pinnacle of motorcycle racing for a reason. The competition is the toughest in the world, the machines are the most advanced in he world, and the riders are the best ones in the world. So anything that can't keep up with that criteria doesn't survive.
Just like Honda left the F1 scene during the financial crisis using it as a good excuse since honda was also losing badly in the F1.
As long as Suzuki is in it thats all that matters. Would love if you do a lets play of motogp 22 game.
Motogp isn’t about selling bikes anymore. Maybe Back in the early 500cc days and up through the final wave of American riders before the introduction of MotoGP. The bread and butter of the big Japanese motorcycle manufacturers aren’t sport bikes, it is in scooter sales in the developing countries.
The real benefit of racing is training engineers and team management to transfer over to production work. It also trickles down some technology over to production bikes like electronics and fuel efficiency.
MotoGP doesn't filter down into bikes you can purchase from a dealer. WSBK is bikes you can purchase.
I would like to see that every brand drops the moto gp and only do superbike, supersport and endurance with homologated street bikes and not specially build ones. Maybe they can start with selling again bikes with a race kit like Yamaha did with the TZ250 / 350 and the FZ750 and so on. Or if the y do not want that sell street bikes let other companies make the kits like Yoshimura, Ten Kate and others controlled by the FIM. Racing bikes now is nothing anymore, to expensive, to much B.S. and to many so called officials that want money. Maybe it's time the FIM is thrown out like Dorna and other leeches.
Get the F out. MotoGp is the best motorcycle racing sport on the planet. And motoGp riders are elite.. Wsbk riders can't ride motoGp bikes they fail and the worst of motoGp riders go to Wsbk and win races and titles..
If the companies don't have a problem why are you crying about motoGp? It's getting bigger, bikes like aprillia and KTM are winning.. So you can wish..
@Ste Srad lol I used to support Chelsea when Drogba was around. Never liked ManUtd ..
irrelevant in terms of what bro? That motogp bikes contribute nothing towards production motorcycles?
Motogp is way better and far more exciting then F1.. Each bike is capable of winning, the overtakes are plenty and Every bike has same spec.. It's fun to watch MotoGP.
I don't follow wsbk as much.. But i dont understand why you guys Want motoGp to end? Kindly explain to me
@Ste Srad It really depends on the region honestly. MotoGP is FAR more popular compared to WSBK in the South East Asian region for example and WSBK has always been looked at as second rate series. Being "relevant to road counterparts" do nothing if nobody watch it.
I think if I was part of the Kawasaki team I'd be more inclined to concentrate more funding in Evtol making a two and four person one and then a public transit one making the battery range last at least 1000-1500 miles and then Racing them, then every five years come out with four versions of electric motorcycles with one of them being a evtol one! Kawasaki is awesome to ride!
Surely Kawasaki has more money than KTM??
That's why they have more money than KTM 😂
Kawasaki is huge japanese company. They also made jet engine
Bad timeing to watch this as Aprilia win thier first MotoGP... I think a more pressing question is: Why does Suzuki not race in WSB since they have sucess in Endurance racing, USA and compete in other classes such as BSB and make the GSXR1000 sportsbike ?
Actually privateer teams can enter WSB with Suzuki bike, but don't expect any direct factory support. Instead all developments are at the expense of the team itself.
@@wanr5701 Yes but the point of the video and my comment is with regards to Kawasaki and Suzuki factory participation.
@@yakekaj Suzuki's superbike effort in MotoAmerica, BSB, and Endurance racing are done mainly through the effort of their local importers. So whatever development work and costs are borne and supported by those importers and distributors instead of directly from the factory.
In fact the current Pata Yamaha team used to run Suzuki bikes with support from Yoshimura instead of factory when they first enter WSBK. The last Suzuki WSB effort with direct factory support actually being run by Alstare Engineering.
Perhaps, they prefer hands off approach in WSB and let the importers decide on their own should any of them want to graduate to WSB. In short; since the importers sell the bikes, they are the one who should decide where they should race to sell the bike.
Too many Ducatis in MotoGP now, Aprillia and KTM are having their moments, I like seeing all the brands competing
It’s the better bike so satellite teams want the best they can get, just like everyone wanted a Honda
Also, Kawasaki and Suzuki pool their racing research and development, wsbk and motogp.
would they sell more bikes? Maybe they, like BMW sell enough bikes without the expense of MGP.
Bmw trash
WSBK and Moto America super sport races are definitely the most exciting series to watch.
i don't think MotoGP is actually benefiting any of the brands financially.. it does improve the evolution of the street bikes and the tech that goes in them but i don't think MotoGP sells bikes anymore.
motogp has a lot more viewers than WSBK, so winning in MotoGP will make a brand popular
If Suzuki and Kawasaki could collaborate they could both probably both do better is MotoGP.
How about zx10r with dlc spring coating?
Suzuki doesn't need collab. Suzuki already doing great in motogp.
Nice vid👍 I’d like to note the gsxr sales after mir won the motogp, I think this was a modern example of ‘win on Sunday and sell and Monday’. Personally Kawasaki are off my radar when in comes to purchasing a bike, and this is solely because they are not in the MotoGP. Even though I do watch wsbk.
you could never afford a MotoGP Bike.. they are not production bikes.. least Kawasaki runs races in bikes you can buy on Monday for the most part... I like WSBK, MotoAmerica but never watch MotoGP for that reason alone..
@@Justaguyinnc that’s a shame you don’t watch the best of the best, I hope to see Toprak in the gp next year. I race a Suzuki sv 650, far from a GP bike, plus I didn’t know Kawasaki and Suzuki shared research data until a saw this thread. Each to their own, I suppose I’m just a Suzuki fan 👍
@@Justaguyinnc Development made in motoGP bikes eventually migrate into purchasable sport bikes, this is the direct reason we have a modern 4 stroke in the GP. I can’t buy a GP gsxrr now, but something similar may be purchasable in a decade or so.
Looks like the r&d done by Suzuki in the GP is shared with Kawasaki for their development
It comes down to money, kawasaki just didn't have that much money to spend on r&d to become a competitive motogp team, especially during the economic crisis, that's why they decided to concentrate on wsbk, where they doing great, with less money spent for r&d, and whatever they researched for the bike in wsbk can immediately be applied to their commercial bikes.
The sport have been favoring exotic brands like Ducati and Aprilla, it requires engine & electronic packages that are not feasible for Japanese manufacturers to invest R&D's in to apply on their production bikes and appeal to the average middle class market. Unless Japanese manufacturers can some how rebrand themselves to be exotic and appeal to the rich fans.
It's a fair comment, I think it also demonstrates who is serious in the motorcycle world and Ducati whilst premium brand yes but they releasing models on a yearly basis without fail
@@BikesofRye Correct, manufacturers that appeal to those who can afford to be serious will profit more from their fans than the Japanese brands that cannot secure that class of market. For those of us that want to stay as economical as possible, we can't provide as much profitability for them but at least they are making bikes affordable. So in essence, I understand why they can't be competitive with Ducatis and Aprillas in the racing scene and that is okay. The motorcycle racing is not like F1, it does not have as large of a following, where Japanese manufacturers can use quantity over quality to have larger profitability.
Interesting. I do follow world superbike world championship and to certain amount motogp, but such has no influence at all on my choice of bike for the road. I go by bike reviews and experience of various models.
what about Suzuki, why haven't they pushed onward and upward, will we see them in WSBK with Kawasaki as a joint team maybe?
world superbike champ for a many years, did a good job, but moto GP is very expensive to develop with bikes costing up to 1,000,000.00 per unit.
The main problem is people just do not buy motorcycles any more, a lot of the motorcycle dealers around where I live in Australia have gone broke and shut the doors. There is no money in motorcycles. The market has changed.
The motorcycle industry’s boomed over the last two years thanks to Covid, though it was mostly dirt bikes but stil..
They aren’t in the know or they are in the know of the reset changes . Every one loves Kawasaki they think out of the box and like to be just a bit different. Team green
Possibly also for BMW
Sería muy bueno que vuelva por la espectativa, que generaría y es muy buena Marca aparte de Honda que son mis favoritas 🎉👍
Makes sense, 2008 changed the way a lot of people see the world.
H2R the king 👑🏍️
Great upload!
Well explained but I would love team green on the moto gp grid
I think Kawasaki should give it a go again because their bike on world superbike is very competitive!
I'm die hard fans motorcycle especially kawasaki, I'm still loyal to waiting until Kawasaki back to GP once more
Hi, could you make a video on the CRT class that used to race in MotoGP?
I'd like to see Kawasaki back in MotoGP, also Aprillia & Suzuki back in Superbikes.
Lost me at the eco stuff. Kork Ballington on the KR500
They still competed in 2009 as hayate kawasaki
Attack Performance attempted to go to MOTO GP using a crossplane Kawasaki ZX-10RR engine with a prototype frame.
Race on Sunday sell on Monday is less and less a thing these days. We used to watch races to determine who the best brands were. Now most people obsess endlessly over spec sheets like they are engineers. MotoGP is useless when it comes to sales because they are not available. SBK bikes look like their street counterparts and they do give a better representation but still, many of their parts are unavailable. Looking at classes like Stock1000 in MotoAmerica can give us better ideas of who is king of the streets. Personally, I’d like to see Moto2 get away from using spec Triumph engines and opt more for a stock class bike similar to what Stock1000 does.
DENDEN RACING
It is such a pity that Kawasaki did not make the cut in MotoGP I think they would have been a force to recon with if they had continued.
Why would you enter MotoGP? When you do get on the grid (if that is your aim) you will have to supply brand new, up to date bikes for a non factory team also. And their primary business is ship building.
I think it's a great loss to motorcycle racing not to have the mean, green racing machines on the premier grid, letting rip as the hammer around the world's best circuits. Kawasaki as a company is huge and I hope one day soon, a CEO comes along who is also a bike racing nut and once again, Kawasaki joins the premier league of racing where it belongs. They should take a look how Suzuki have returned and are now once again doing so well.
great question , would have been better if you had an answer !
D'oh ! Fox is Entertainment NOT news D'oh ! Sky is same network... I turned off lights on your Channel D'oh ! 💯
Can you make a video on why Suzuki or Aprilia are not racing in world superbike?
Kawi and Suzuki apparently split r&d funds so that's why Suzuki isn't and world Superbike and kawi isn't in motogp
@@nigeldean3726 i know i asked the question before watching the video