James O'Brien's simple question to caller defending Israel's tactics in Gaza | LBC
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- James O'Brien probes caller Stuart over the 'legitimacy' of Israel's bombing of Gaza after he cited civilian casualties as 'collateral damage', while also questioning whether the Israelis would be pursuing the same tactics if Hamas were hiding in Israel.
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"Because they would care less about Palestinians' lives than they would about Israeli lives." That's it. Thank you. You've just described OUT LOUD the very thing all Israeli supporters know but won't say. The hypocrisy and the arrogance are truly remarkable.
First of all mate the phrase should be they couldn’t care less not could care less. That makes no grammatical sense. Get back to your books.
@@Mikados_Advark12 Actually you are wrong. You are conflating two different phrases. The OP is talking about a hypothetical situation in which the Israeli government care less about one thing than another. So for example I care about animals but I care less about them than humans. It doesn't mean I couldn't care less about animals. Reread the quote he used again with this in mind.
I don't think it's hypocrisy in the context of a war to say you care more about the lives of your own side than you do about the enemy. I don't think that's the gotcha you think it is.
@@Mikados_Advark12"could care less" is an idiom.
To think that Israel should care more about Palestinians than they do about their own civilians is insanity.
Especially when Hamas is eagerly using their own citizens as human shields.
When you call 3000 children deaths as collateral damage then you need to have a think about yourself. Well done James.
Of course narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths always think about themselves.. 💯💯😂😂
They wouldn't need to use the same tactics if they were in Israel. If that were the case then they could launch ground operations and capture certain targets, its the same reason they dont fire rockets into the west bank, it serves no purpose when your army already has control over the area.
Israel voluntarily left Gaza and pulled its troops out, it didn't have any soldiers in there until now. Of course they would use missiles over sending their troops in, who wouldn't?
He prefaced the comment with 'that horrible phrase'. Whether you like it or not, throughout the history of modern warfare civilian deaths have always been high. Now Hamas could advance in formations to meet the Israeli military head on, but they won't, which endangers the lives of civilians.
My logic tells me the following: if Hamas were hiding in Israeli hospitals, firing rockets at Tel Aviv non-stop, while the Israeli hospital staff and patients refused to evacuate after being warned, then yes - IDF would be forced to eventually strike that hospital. Am I wrong? How?
Shorter @@patmustard1511: _"I refuse to answer the question. Wanna hear me talk about something else???"_ 💩
"they haven't bombed a hospital."....
they've bombed 22 hospitals since the 2000s, they've ordered 26 hospitals to evacuate, "accidentally" targeting Aljazeera's HQ (the video shows literally no other building was targeted, if that isn't intentional than take my eyes out.
Hamas have fired between 500 and 2000 mortars per year in Israel according to the UN who verified this. If this was done in any other country on earth you'd flatten the area.
@@Steve-zc8yn "you'd flatten the area" not everybody is as carefree about the mass death of innocent people as you, mate. stop projecting.
@@Steve-zc8ynhow many bombs did the US drop in Afghanistan? Should we then flatten the US? of course not
@@Steve-zc8yn Now say the same things about Ukraine.
@@tezismith8795 * leapfrogs the deaths caused by shelling for 30 years and the fact they voted for Hamas who's policy was to wipe Israel off the map*. Sidestep that one first and just blame the Jews. I suppose it requires less thinking. 🏅
The very idea that Hamas skydived into Israel and the Israeli intelligence never knew anything about it is quite frankly unbelievable
My brother it's like this... it is physically IMPOSSIBLE to breach the Israeli borders without the IDF's knowledge. I served in the operation Iraqi 'freedom' and the shock & awe campaign in the middle east from 2004 to 2008 and myself personally for almost eleven months of my time overseas, I occupied a base outside of gaza on the Israeli side of the pond for reasons beyond my pay grade and rank & I personally witnessed the way Israel handles the Palestinians so let me unequivocally be clear... The FACTs are as follows. Israel has one of the best border security systems on the face of the earth and defense forces ready in a moments notice. That is undeniable and certain. Fact number two is that they (IDF) treated the Palestinians (as I observed) as a modern equivalent of the way the LAPD as well as many other law enforcement agencies treat minorities here stateside. Well then we must ask ourselves.. with all the racism in America, how did we go about acknowledging the mistreatment of African Americans, Hispanics etcetera.. and then apply those requirements to the way IDF treats and handles the Palestinians? That is the million dollar question my friend
Yes, Israel tell us they knew nothing about the 7th yet once the bombing of Gaza started they are assuring us that their operatives within Gaza are giving them accurate information on the fly on even moving targets! Bit fishy!!
Well Netanyahu funds them there is that
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The problem is not Hamas. The problem is who created Hamas. Israel created Hamas through oppression, persecution, occupation of lands, and financing Hamas, of course
They did knew. The government of Egypt warned them something was going to happen. Thats why Israeli newspapers are slaughtering the goverment and mainly bibi
@@spaceforce-girlforcejjwest2048surveillance technology has advanced by leaps and bounds since 2001 though
Palestinians being murdered is called "collateral damage," but when Israelis are murdered it is terrorism, which is rightfully true. The double standards blow my mind.
It's a sick world we live in
Ok so Instead of going down this rabbit hole let me ask you this isreal says defeating hamas is the mission . Ok. So once isreal defeats hamas then what? Honestly what is your thoughts on the rebuilding?
Actually both are dying because of hamas who are not letting civilians out of northern gaza because hamas wants human shields for their bunkers where they hide
Israel has been doing state sponsored terrorism to Palestinians for 30 years. It seems more people realize this than I thought, but the anti-Semitism has got to stop.
I've heard plenty of socialist worker sign holders say it the other way round.
The caller literally admitted that Israelis lives are more important than Palestinians 🤦♀️
israeli lives are more important to the Israeli government. I doubt that Palestinian lives matter to Hamas more than their own.
@@michaelwilkinson2928 stop trying to twist it, we can al see right through you. palestinians lives are NOT worth less than israeli lives. to think they are is the position of a sick individual who has lost their humanity.
All lives are Equal and Precious. It's not just the Self Proclaimed Chosen Ones. What a pathetic thing to even Think. In Jewish People's eyes We are All Goyim
@@michaelwilkinson2928 They are not actually. The Israelis used the Hannibal directive when it comes to hostages. They'd rather a dead hostage, then an alive terrorist. It was officially revoked but judging by how they are conducting this war, it looks like it's still in effect. There are reports of many Israeli civillians being shot by the IDF when being 'rescued' from Hamas. And they've certainly killed many with their indiscriminate bombing of Gaza.
And that is perpetuated by the politicians and other islamophobes
This interview is simply amazing. No room for hypocrisy or ignoring the law.
What law?? Who's law? The UN?? 😂
@@ironandzincinternational law. Dope
Since when has Hamas follow international law?
@@Make_Boxing_Great_Again Israel surelly doesnt follow international law since 1947.
@@Make_Boxing_Great_AgainSince when have you condemned the war crimes that Israel is responsible for.
I loved how you apologized for "distracting" him as opposed to accusing him of deflection, that alone creates another argument. Then you point out his hypocracy. "You have to take their word for it."
The government is using their family's deaths as an excuse to get revenge. Of the people experiencing the grief say this is getting bad, means they are doing it for more than just the victims.
GB News 😎
For every forgiving family member of a victim, there are quite a few who just want vengeance. Why is one person's view more important than the others?
The answer is it's not, what you see is only what suits the agenda. I'm not for bombing civilians, but I'm also not for making weak arguments. Just because you can dig up a handful of people who say something doesn't mean it should be accepted. There are no group protests of victims' families, just interviews of individuals that are put on the spot.
So just because they get a few people to say enough has been done doesn't mean "they're doing it for more than just the victims" anymore than if a victim said they wanted more vengeance and then Israel said, "they're doing it just solely for the victims".
If Hamas was operating in Israel they would simply be arrested. More than half of Gaza supports Hamas though. If police simply walked into Gaza and tried to arrest Hamas leaders none of them would be let leave alive. You can try to twist it into "revenge" but there is evidence to the contrary. Dozens of videos of anti tank rocket launchers and AKs being fired from hospitals. Dozens of photos of tunnel entrances built 5m from hospitals. Dozens of photos of rocket launch sites 30m from hospitals. Intercepted Hamas radio conversations saying they looted hospitals and UN resupplies for fuel for the war effort. The Gazan people have willingly let themselves become hostages and will do so again and again even after Hamas is gone. All this war has done is legitimized using civilians as human shields in future wars.
Hamas also set up road blocks to keep civilians from leaving Gaza City. I don't think anyone even disputes that anymore.
Many of the families of the victims from 9/11 were against the war in Iraq and yet their deaths were used as justification.
There we go hit the nail on the head when the caller said “Israeli lives are more important” - that’s how the world pro israel/western media think - he didn’t even hide it disgusting
I believe he meant that Israeli lives are more important for the Israeli government. Which, in my opinion makes sense. I live in Canada and Canadian lives are more important than other nationality's lives for the government. The opposite would be quite stunning.
Not most of the people in the EU including GBUK all Life Matters
@@CodeLife_12right but in these western nations, governments are taking sides which is making their people take sides. We want our governments to stay neutral and only offer political intermediation or aid if they want to. When these governments take sides that is what makes these debates among their own people. Technically west should be only concerned about their civilians, issue in the Middle East is not relevant to their tax payers
The whole point is Palestinians started this. And they expected and wanted this. If I push Mike Tyson and he knocks me out in retaliation. Who should I blame? Mike Tyson or myself? If Ukraine has attacked Russia no one would be supporting the now.
@@georgewarner5496 it’s a cold hearted statement to make when he knows how many Palestinians were killed
The caller perfectly shows true symptoms of cognitive dissonance
Not at all.
@@MrJohnybirchall you are probably suffering from it too..
@@Blackthought your right
It is plain and simple : to Israel some lives matter, some don't. It is hypocresy.
@@thecheshirecat999 Israel , usa and the jews especially the zionest are hypocrites.
"Israel isn't deliberately killing people with these bombs!"
Ah, yes. The "Israel is dumb" defense.
They are deliberately targeting hamas terrorists, wherever they are. Often they hide behind the people they have kept hostage for 16 years in order to save their a*ses along with the intention to use the deaths as victimisation propaganda to gain international sympathy, and then civilians get baked in the process. Hamas has got all of their blood in their hands.
I was going to like but left it at 69 likes XD (BTW I agree with you)
@@asifnoaman8978it's safe to add your "like" now that it's higher than that lol
israeli survivors have testified publicly, that the idf fired at israeli civilians during the events from 7.-10. October. Were they dumb, wreckless or acting in accordance with the Hannibal Directive.
Sources:
Yasmin Porat
Danielle Rachiel
Max Blumenthal, The Grayzone
According to Hamas numbers, Israel has demolished upwards of 200,000 apartments in Gaza, while there are 10,000 dead (also Hamas numbers). This means that for each housing unit destroyed, there was a 5% chance for a single person to die. In "The world's biggest open air prison", where you could easily expect each apartment to house at least 4 people. Considering these numbers, do you still think a case can be made that Israel is *Deliberately* killing people with these bombs?
That question was really on point. The caller didn’t see that coming.
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
What if HAMAS were hiding in Israel or London or New York? We all know that Israel's response would be completely different. This simple question highlights the Israeli attitude to the worth of Palestinian life.
👌👌👌 Brilliant
the war has started since 7 Oct😂,
& we have seen that Hamas come from Palestine ,
not from US UK or Russia $ China
use your brain😅
@@Jimsonz Do you understand a hypothetical question Jim?
@@Jimsonzyou are truly foolish if you actually think this started Oct 2023!
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@@JimsonzOn October 7th? Ahahaha 😅
1. Israeli survivors said Israel killed their own citizens by shooting tank shells at homes.
2. Apache pilots admitted shooting cars with Israelis in it applying "Hannibal Directive"
3. Netanyahu literally quoted Amalekites to Israelis entering Gaza on sky news!
4. Israeli tanks recorded shooting civilian vehicles in Gaza point blank!!
You literally have to lie on purpose to deny all this.
Lies
Spot on and it was all Planned The Evil Leaders of Hamas Work for Israel and the evil 1s who control the UK and their Pals The Evidence would make Sherlock Holmes Lol There is so much of it However Sadly No Real Journalist is willing to put their Heads on the chopping Block and Say IT
@@Shaun-dr1mg is that you too Stuart?
It's crazy how no one see the honest news and just hear the lies given to them. They ignore the hostages released testimonies and all the witnesses testimonies saying indicating that is Israeli Army was the reason why most civilians were dead on the 7th of October The Burning it was done by the Israelis
all the listed FACTS are easily verifiable with a quick google search, but please keep telling us black is white@@Shaun-dr1mg
You can call something an accident the first time. The 3000th time, you're definitely doing it on purpose. Nobody who drives on the sidewalk can get away with the defense of "I wasn't trying to run over pedestrians. It just happened," or, even worse, "I was only trying to hit the bad pedestrians. The others were just in the way."
Israel: "We're dealing with human animals. There's no such thing as an innocent civilian in Gaza. We're going to turn it into a city of tents."
Caller: "There's no evidence they're doing this on purpose."
Did he use the word 'restraint'?! 7000 people died in three weeks, over 3000 of which are children. Every attempt at calling for a cease fire has been vetoed by the Americans and UK. And this man has the audacity to say restraint has been exercised? What shades of disgusting do you have to be to this cruel?
😂😂😂 That shade 9f disgusting is off the spectrum it is a veryyyyyyyyy dark hue indeed
Source.... Some TH-cam comment.
So these numbers are from Hamas. So. They are terrorists. But even half means Isreal risks becoming Hamas to destroy Hamas. Terrible. All of it. Maybe we should just stay out of it.
There’s so much gaslighting going on.
According to groups under the governance of a terrorist regime who fail to say how many of those supposed casualties are Hamas fighters 🙄
Thank you for holding him accountable till the end, if more journalists were as just and humain like you, the world would have been a much better place for all of us 🙏
Dude I agree... But Hamas leader just said openly they'll attack again and again until Isreal doesn't exist... Why the fck people can't understand what Hamas is? Yes, Isreal is wrong in this but there's no other option..
Isreal is wrong but people saying Isreal is wrong including me needs to fckn say how to remove Hamas or end Hamas because I have been supporting Palestinian but after yesterday video, I get why Isreal is doing this even when they are losing face internationally....
People needs to wake up..
Why are Arab countries crying for Palestinian but won't allow them inside... Well Palestinian are criminal in nature as Egypt official just said recently..
Palestinian entering Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan etc have all tried to overthrow the govt and control the country that gave them home..😂
Hamas official video is in fox news and all Indian news channel.... West doesn't want to show it...
Yes so true
He is the problem. If more journalists help Hamas to account & placed the blame there, where it belongs, the world wouldn't be on a position where terrorists are given credibility.
The evidence is right in front of your face: "journalists" accept any BS Hamas puts out, but disbelieve & demand more & more evidence for Israel's claims... despite Israel being the victim defending themselves from an ELECTED government's terror attack.
He’s right on this but mostly a narcissistic fool ! I think it’s a deliberate plan by the paid for media to give you crumbs !
This really sounded like two guys arguing different points and then trying to walk around back to another "but you did say" "you agree that" and then more "no, I never said that." It sounded like the host really wanted to pin something on the guy that was just calling in and trying to make him sound like he is for violence
Hats off to James, he continues to be true to his job as a reporter and unbiased presenter. The world needs more like you James.
Unbiased??
Unbiased???? Presumably you've never heard of James O'Brien before as he is precisely the opposite of unbiased.
@marzipanmonkey so with your theory anybody who has an opinion on anything can't be unbiased?
@@101amybabyHe always searches for the truth... You just may not like the truth he finds 😂😂😂
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
James O’Brien thank you very much to you, another human who sites with the truth! 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Great job Brien for bringing out the hypocrisy and the racism out of the caller
They wouldn't need to use the same tactics if they were in Israel. If that were the case then they could launch ground operations and capture certain targets, its the same reason they dont fire rockets into the west bank, it serves no purpose when your army already has control over the area.
Israel voluntarily left Gaza and pulled its troops out, it didn't have any soldiers in there until now. Of course they would use missiles over sending their troops in, who wouldn't?
@@patmustard1511who wouldn't ? A country who isn't a terrorist country , they wouldn't .
Now you’re just being naive. Every country puts its own citizens lives above those of its enemy.
Israelis will push them out. Not hide them
@@patmustard1511they 100% would cause they did. Hamas was already in Israel and they evacuated and than destroyed police precincts, schools. Medical centers anywhere Hamas was hiding they went after and cleared.
This has been going on for 56 years. Almost every day Palestinians have been killed, beaten, imprisoned and/or evicted from their homes. And we've simply watched it all happen because of our guilt from European crimes from which the Palestinians are innocent. How tragic that Israeli Jews are treating another people exactly like they themselves were treated.
Over 100 years, to be fair. The British made it so.
@@arabcadabra8863 Congrats your both wrong.
*you're
How am I wrong? Please explain.@@1inchPunchBowl
Victims create victims and bullies are often traumatized themselves.
Heres hoping the world can finally get over its special treatment of Izrl. that special treatment has covered some of their nasty behavior for a very long time.
Well done James for asking real questions unlike the biased mainstream media puppets who have no humanity!!! Respect you for speaking out for the truth. Free & Save Palestine 🇵🇸.
James O'brien is effectively part of the mainstream media. LBC is mainstream media. Plenty of other mainstream media talk about the same things. Maybe you just can't stand hearing stuff that doesn't suit your narrative, regardless if it's true or not.
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
@@bradl7554 You are also misguided, for thinking that Hamas got elected in a completly fair and democratic election.
Also, they came to power in 2006, most of the palestinians that are getting killed right now, wasn't even born back then. But hey, Israel is just doing what is nessesary right? 🤯
Thank you James for asking questions that other journalists wouldn't dare to ask and for bringing into light what's really happening to the Palestinians.
Can't bare to watch the main news as they are too biased.
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
The answer to the question that this fellow is struggling with is “Israelis do not see Palestinians lives as being of the same value” …. There it is
Actually its Hamas who dont care about palestinians lives. If they did they would not use them as human shields after murdering civilians.
@@reppix any proof on this matter? do hamas said they hide in hospital? or is it the same as Bush said that wmd in iraq which is baseless accusation?
Why there is a killing on palestanian in west bank which hamas was 100percent not in that area? any justification for killing palestanian civilian?
This stuff is not started on 7 october but rather a much2 longer than that.
Have you seen any of the reporting about how Palestinians live under Israeli occupation? Apartheid state has been mentioned numerous times and it only begins to describe it all.
@@reppixCan Hamas and Israel not both have a disregard for Gazan lives, can they not both be responsible for them, at the same time? This is the point. Israel don't "get off" killing innocents because Hamas are despicable.
@@reppixHave you considered it might be both? Hamas for hiding among civilians, and the Israeli government for dropping hundreds of thousands of lbs of bombs on civilian targets.
When the caller says at the end 'you have to be careful with language' but then goes on to say one life matters more than the other.... scary times. People are coming together regardless of religion in masses because we are human beings first. And to see this happening in 2023, witnessing such a massacre is something that cannot be described in words. Well Done James
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James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
@@bradl7554Israel has been living on borrowed time for 75 years. Always remember that. We know borrowed time is another word for temporary, which means a constant state of flux. Which is a true definition of the Israeli state.
@@makeit-takeit6707 Before the Roman emperor Hadrian named the region Assyria Palestina it was called Judea. Go educate yourself before you tell me Jews only have a 75 year history in the land. There has never not been a Jewish presence in the land of Israel since Jews lost sovereignty after the Roman conquest,
@@bradl7554 Oh, that's right, I forgot.The Jewish people, hither and yon, have a 2000 year old deed to that specific part of the planet. Who knew? Is that what you mean by educating one's self?
I remember an act of terrorism being carried out by some people who hailed from Leeds some years ago. I'm pretty sure that no parts of Leeds were bombed in retaliation.
Leeds??? You will rarely see this happening there. Absolute lies.
Get you’re head checked.
Great job in staying to the question at hand, and not allowing the guest to go away with some sneaky non-answers to not reveal their true self.
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
Arab Peace Initiative (22 % for Palestinians - 78% for Israelis)
Before Hamas came to Gaza, in 2002 the Arab Peace Initiative, was introduced by Saudi Arabia and endorsed by all the Arab countries.
It offers Israel full recognition by the 22 members of the Arab League in exchange for an Israeli withdrawal to its pre-1967 borders, thus allowing the Palestinians to create a viable independent state on what is only 22 percent of historic Palestine land.
The Arab Peace Initiative was supported by large numbers of policy makers throughout the world, with favourable comments made by the leaders of over sixty countries including the American President himself.
Israel Ignored it and carried on building more new settlements in the West Bank.
If Israel accepted the peace initiative, then today wouldn’t be Hamas in GAZA and everyone knows this.
A sad truth, yes.
This was by design. They planned on claiming all the Palestinian lands for Israel the whole time.
Every peaceful resolution was always met with extreme hostility from Israhell, Hamas from the start tried to peacefully negotiate with Isreal and they were faced with immediate seige and blockade on Gaza, the cease fire in 2008 was initiated by Hamas and on Nov 4th of that same year the assassinated the Hamas official spokesperson to Israel ending the cease fire, even though he at the time was trying his best to reach a complete cease fire on both sides. And now they're acting like victims and Hamas is this horrible monster that continues to threaten their existence. Armed resistance is the only way for Palastine to get its freedom no other way is acceptable by Israel.
There is always a solution to everything. Sometimes, a very small minority, do not wish a peaceful outcome. It's very sad but indicative of the human species.
Israel ignored? somehow you've failed to mention a typical Palestinian response -A suicide bomber killed 30 Israelis in Netanya the same day the Initiative was launched. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack and its leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin said that the attack sent "a message to the Arab summit to confirm that the Palestinian people continue to struggle for the land and to defend themselves no matter what measures the enemy takes. Wouldn't be Hamas in gaza you say? yeah right
This was an excellent line of questioning. Well done Mr O'Brien.
It's a ridiculous line of questioning. Under what circumstances could an *elected* terrorist organisation, owning weapons and infrastructure and receiving substantial foreign support establish a base for itself within a domestic hospital? I don't mind discussing hypotheticals but this line of questioning makes no sense
@@sammason2300james is someone who wishes Palestine could just get away with terrorist attacks with no response. Hes read the hamas charter. But still thinks their wishes come from a place of oppression.
@@LarryDavid.blochain Hamas wasn’t formed until 40 years into the invasion and occupation. What’s your excuse for everything that happened in those 4 decades? The millions of Palestinians displaced? The thousands killed, the land that was annexed? If Hamas was the only problem, what’s your justification for everything that happened before Hamas came about? And what response do you expect from people who have been getting killed, displaced and imprisoned for decades by a foreign power?
@@sammason2300The line of questioning make perfect sense, unless a person is acting on a delusional premise… people are not ignorant of the horrific acts of the Israeli government anymore. And the sooner you realise that the better gif you and the others who repeatedly hide behind the word Collateral damage.
@@loulouliciouse You've never met me and I'm not hiding behind anything. What is my "delusional premise" exactly?
Incredible piece of journalism in this interview
Thank you James for bringing a sane logical thought to this whole thing.
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
Well done James one law for the Israelis and one for Palestinians!!!! Disgusting
@@char54078 Would be great if someone could do something about it. How the world lets them literally stand in the UN, tear up the report and then call it anti-semitic is beyond me.
@@Adam-xe5xm US keeps vetoing any attempts to hold them responsible.
@@jackosbourne2529 the ambassador to the UN took the report that concluded they were an apartheid state, literally ripped it up on the podium, called it antisemitic and said it would be resigned to the dustbin of history. These people somehow get more and more shameless everytime they speak.
@@Adam-xe5xmI heard US vetoed at least 26 resolutions.
Yes why if IDF was wearing different uniform working at night shift
How can one be the occupier and claim self defense?
It was the land of Israel thousands of years ago.
@@clairewright332The Israelites found people living their thousands of years ago
@@clairewright332 under your same logic it was someone else land before even Abraham was born for thousands of years so you need another excuse to justify was happening ryt now.
@@clairewright332 So if a bunch of Americans turned up in Berlin and claimed it as their own that would be acceptable? It was the land of their ancestors and just like with Israel only some of them, not even a majority but they share a cultural connection so close enough.
@@saulperez6534 You seem to forget that Gaza is no longer occupied.
The name Israel was the new name given to Jacob in Genesis. Prior to that Abraham was told that his descendants would be many.
Ive seen so many videos in the last month of peoples brains breaking when theyre asked to have the slightest bit of empathy and i dont think ill ever get tired of it. Great video!
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
@@bradl7554 i wouldnt have started beating up someone elses kid and put mine in danger to begin with 🤷♂️
@@alexanderball6326 Nor has Israel. Israel never asked for this war. If someone else beats up your kid and says he'll do it again and again. And the perpetrator hides behind his own kid, it is not your fault if his kid inadvertently gets hurt for being used as a human shield.
@@bradl7554 your mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance are astounding to me
@@alexanderball6326exactly!
Brilliant James!
Atrocities and war crimes are taking place against innocent civilians. This caller knows nothing and has a lot to learn.
How do you suggest that Israel defeat Hamas & rescue the hostages?
@@davidz3879How do you suggest they do it?
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@@ThomasKing19933 the question was to you buddy - very easy to make claims and virtue signal but it turns out you know nothing and have a lot to learn from your response.
@@artnull13It's easy to sit there making childish remarks like you've just done, but you should only talk when you've learnt something about the subject.
James, I often disagree with you. On this occasion, that question you asked Stuart was an arguement destroyer. Bravo!
Absolutely 💯
No way. I often AGREE with him and this time, I found him to be using silly hypotheticals to confuse an unprepared caller who doesn’t have years of experience arguing with people on the radio lol.
@@johnraviella6561 Strongly disagree.
The caller shouldn't come on if he's unprepared.
James was spot on.
@@johnraviella6561 Its the perfect question. It clearly points out the disregard for civilian casualties. At some point it stops becoming collateral damage and you are just killing people intentionally. They've apparently damaged or destroyed 45% of all buildings in Gaza. Now I'm no expert but I dont think Hamas were using nearly half the city as a base. They are carpet bombing the place and any objective person can see it's a war crime but since they have been committing them daily for decades now I guess no one really cares. They might have the worst human rights record in the Middle East and thats a tough list to top.
@@johnraviella6561what would your answer be with all the time you can think about it? What if Hamas is hiding in your home town? Would you think it’s fair that Israeli army apply the same strategy to make your family collateral damage?
I love how he patches onto that one instance of the hospital bombing (which is still in debate) and ignoring the over 30 other strikes on or right near multiple hospitals in southern and northern Gaza.
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
Your debate skills and ability to stay focused are amazing. Thank you. Any life lost is awful.
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
When you don't see one side as human, you have lost your own humanity.
Thank you LBC for asking real questions
That’s not the general stance of all @lbc presenters, most are pro Israel and would have supported this caller…only James O’Brien try to be fair and the far right hates him.
Apart from James being common sensical, he is just being a human being. Thank you James.
I honestly appreciate that caller for saying the quiet parts out LOUD!
Thanks for unmasking the hypocrisy of this caller.
James is the hypocrite. James is arguing that the victims here the Jews their life matter less than the ppl who waged a war against them.
And the West
@@Markiboy3 not to mention James in detached from reality. If Hammas took over Israeli town packed it with terrorists built 100s of underground tunnels storing bombs missiles weapons and terrorists , while bringing 1000s of Gazans which you don’t even know if they are civilians as. They don’t wear uniforms.. would israel evacuate all Israelis out and target from air . Yes . They would. And yes they did when Hammas took over Israeli police station. James us the epitome of hypocrisy.
@@Markiboy3While Israel’s iron dome mds mitigates all the rockets. You forgot that part
Meanwhile Palestinians are still being killed in the West Bank. I’d love to hear your reasoning on the matter
imagine describing innocent Palestinian people as "collateral damage" with a straight face
They’ve been doing it for decades
It always happens in any war. What about Ukrainians? Afghans ? And all the rest .
@@catherinethomas1276 more palestinians have been killed in 2 weeks than were killed in the first year of ukraine war.
@@CidersAndReligiousCrusadesPalestinians didn't do anything thats the thing 😂. Your problem is with hamas but use Palestinians as collateral damage to get to hamas.
@@CidersAndReligiousCrusades imagine committing the war crimes against humanity that Israel has been committing for 75 years, and being morally outraged when the surviving victims fight back.
Oh, wait, you just have to go look in a mirror for that, don't you?
That was a heck of a question!😲
I would like to applaud both the host and the caller here. These are the kinds of discussions we need to be having; grounded in respectfulness and a willingness to listen.
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
The caller thought enough of his opinion to call into a radio show but couldnt answer one simple question. The host's question was so simple yet all there was to ask. Well done!
The caller was very self aware of his evil position that is why he danced around
Except the hosts questioned happened and if he did 2mins of Journalism would realize what happened. Hamas was in Israel.
Israel cleared its civilians and then destroyed anywhere Hamas was.
@@Markiboy3 NSDAP was the elected government of Germany, and started a war on behalf of its citizens, including Jewish ones.
This is how you sound.
@succatash ok... so why can't they clear the civilians out of Gaza too?
@@scottlangley5596 they've tried for 3 weeks. Dropping 5 million pamphlets, texting, calling, calling hospital administrators, calling the red crescent. You hear hospitals say all the time we were told to evacuate 4 times.
Hamas has stopped them. Egypt has stopped refugees from going to safety.
It's done so people like you say ceasefire they are bombing civilians and it allows Hamas to survive and terrorize its own population and Israel's.
If westerners just imagined this was in Africa, Israel could do what it needs to and there would be greater peace in the region. Instead leftists rather keep the region unstable.
Israel can only do so much.
I cannot believe this world has people like this caller. I mean how utterly evil, immoral and unethical can someone get by denying the attrocities and war crimes being commited as we speak, nevermind the attrocities committed over the 75+ years of this occupation. I am ashamed to that people like this exist in the world. What a disgrace.
I think the last three weeks has opened the eyes of many people who were not aware of the immorality and double standards by leaders in the west
This caller is worse than hamas militants! 😂
Either that or your simply ignorant to other people's reasoned opinions 🤷♂️
@@ricardosmythe2548 so you are in support of what is being done?
@@syence_nird do you support WWII veterans and what the allies did?
Literately the best question. And the response says it all.
Man, you got the caller nailed..
Thank you for making this caller look foolish, the man keeps trying to defend double standards, he doesn't have a shred of dignity.
The phrase that the zionists use to describe civilian deaths in Palestine is "mowing the lawn" , the U.S phrase for Iraqi civilian deaths was " bug splat"
Says it all
Except Americans have been doing it at least since 1775.. 💯💯😂😂
Please keep up the great work please you are a legend brother, aboriginal brother from Australia the truth and like this needs to be heard
This is such an excellent question!!!
Bravo.He finally admits it at the end. Isreali lives matter more than Palestinian lives and that’s why won’t adopt the same policy if Hamas was in Israel. And this is what brilliant journalism is folks. Breaks it down til you realize what your actually implying. James , well done.
They won't need to adopt the same policy if this was happening in Israel, because Israelis, at least the ones not being used as human shields, would evacuate to a place of safety, so you'd get less collateral damage.
And 100% of that territory would be Israeli territory, so it would be A LOT safer to go from house to house to clear buildings.
And, of course, there wouldn't be miles and miles of tunnels for Hamas to hide in.
Israeli lives matter to Israelis and why should not they? Somehow people want Israelis to care more about Palestinians who could be hamas in disguise more than their own people. I
Does your life matter more than the afghans hanging with bin Laden ?
To the Israeli government, whose job it is to safeguard Israelis, there is a moral obligation to prioritze Israeli lives.
They wouldn't need to use the same tactics if they were in Israel. If that were the case then they could launch ground operations and capture certain targets, its the same reason they dont fire rockets into the west bank, it serves no purpose when your army already has control over the area.
Israel voluntarily left Gaza and pulled its troops out, it didn't have any soldiers in there until now. Of course they would use missiles over sending their troops in, who wouldn't?
I respect James. He's so patient with these idiots who can't accept when their "logic" is proven as cognitive dissonance. It's so hard to have a rational discussion with people like this, as they are so entrenched in their ways and what they've been directed to believe.
Well said
Some people cannot disagre without thinking they are morally superior and the person who disagrees is morally inferior. It is true of course, there are some ideological nut-jobs who cannot be reached with reason because of their entrenched views. Hamas, for example.
Its not entrenched in their ways, its Chosenite arrogance.
@@jamescaley9942Israel created Hamas.
I cannot believe the number of dense people parading about in this society. It is truly shocking.
That's a very sharp question.
Caller: “You’ve got to be careful about language.”
Also caller: 4,000 dead Palestinian children are “collateral damage.”
Amazing what language you can use and get away with depending on who you’re talking about.
yes only others have to careful with language when it suits you, but he didnt want to be held to the same standards, sheer hypocrisy. He was trying to pretend he was open to debate and was reasonable but really it was all just a cover for him trying to convince others of his point of view 🙄
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
@@bradl7554 you mean in the same way that America should spend its money on its own citizens instead of Israelis?
@@mangalamusica Yes, in the same way it should spend its money on its own citizens rather than giving 'humanitarian aid' which Hamas steals from its people to build tunnels - while keeping its people in poverty.
That’s what they do
We always knew that Israel would go completely over the top and utterly disproportionate in their response. Its quite deliberate on their part.
our part since we are funding it
The Zio NeoCon agenda has been a disaster for both the Middle East and the West.
agreed - problem is many people don't really know what others mean when saying disproportionate - so I just like to refer to whether international law is being followed
Hamas fired over 3000 rockets into Israel indiscriminately......what damage would they have done if they had all landed......do terrorists fire rockets hoping they are intercepted?
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Well done james for proving how biased and sick some people are.
yes james is a sick person
LOL, everyone is biased. Of course they are. I dont see any wrong with that. taking sides is a necessity sometimes.
They wouldn't need to use the same tactics if they were in Israel. If that were the case then they could launch ground operations and capture certain targets, its the same reason they dont fire rockets into the west bank, it serves no purpose when your army already has control over the area.
Israel voluntarily left Gaza and pulled its troops out, it didn't have any soldiers in there until now. Of course they would use missiles over sending their troops in, who wouldn't?
@@user-id6hp1ud7f. Not taking sides doesn't mean you're not biased. Neither taking sides implies you are biased
@@patmustard1511voluntarily left Gaza?
Full control over West Bank?
What are they doing there in the first place? It's not there land
You picture them as superman while they are homelander
You are so fair and honest brilliant well done. 🎉
James o brian shut this caller up ! Legend! 🇵🇸
Beautiful debating skills, you made the point perfectly and allowed the gentleman to admit that Israeli’s do not see innocent Palestinian lives as been of equal value to their own.
A government's first priority is to defend its own people. Except if that goverment is Hamas. They are delighted if their own people become martyrs, and do their best to make them so whether or not they choose.
It's just cheap rhetorical manipulation. Obviously no country anywhere in the world at any time is going to be willing to commit large-scale collateral damage of its own citizens-compared with the collateral damage of its wartine enemies. This "debate" is all just cheap rhetorical theatrics and everyone is buying it. All the comments just show people's confirmation bias.
@@lizmarsden4417 so what’s your excuse for the UN report commissioner Pillay cited on aljazeera about just this year 44 Palestinian children who were killed by Israeli forces before 7th October in the West Bank were there is no Hamas presence ?
CREEP
Is this a correct conclusion though? When the British bombed German cities during the second world war is it therefore correct to draw the conclusion that the British obviously did not see innocent German civilian lives as equal value to their own?
Respect for James for trying to give this debate the right perspective
@@Markiboy3half of Palestine wasn't even born when Hamas was elected. So why should all those children die?
Israel helped start and fund Hamas. Without Hamas, Israel cannot invade and take Palestinians land.
people like you got exposed man@@Markiboy3
Yes!!! And I absolutely love how polite he was as well.
That simple question is one of the most cogent analyses of all of this that I have heard. Well done.
Brilliant radio host was able to tease out the callers well hidden prejudice and bias. Superb talent.
Much respect to the host for asking tough questions unlike many other networks.
THANK YOU FOR THIS INTERVIEW
James O'Brien's Knock out punch! Well done James!🔥
Listening to a Liberal MP whose parents are trapped in Gaza, after a family visit, describe how "Where should we go where is safe?" is now replaced by "Where should we go to die?" put tears in my eyes. To not feel for these victims of what is described as a collective punishment does say much about the psychology...or, indeed, psychopathy of that person.
Regardless of what’s been said and discussed, I learnt a lot from James’ composed manner when debating with others. A great example!
Truly incredible
lol
James is misguided because he has made an assumption that Israel owes the same duty of care to Gaza civilians (who are under a different government i.e Hamas elected government) as they do Israeli citizens. This is not the case - in the same way that the US has a higher duty of care to US citizens versus Canadian citizens. Therefore, it is reasonable that Israel would take 2 different approaches when dealing with situations when it's own citizens are in danger versus when non-citizens are in danger. If your kid was in danger, you would treat the situation differently and take different steps than if it was someone else's kid who you do not have the same duty of care/responsibility for.
THANK YOU SO MUCH JAMES FOR ASKING THIS.
James, you are star as always. Thanks for continuing your fair assessment of this terrible situation, and hopefully making these people think about what they are saying. It is frustrating to see how many people cannot see through bigotry, and with closed minds or blinded by propaganda that Israel has produced.
The caller REFUSES to understand the question because he DOES understand it!
That caller got f*****g smoked 😂😂😂
Thank you for holding that caller accountable!
We need this brother on the air in the US, please!
there are some real mad, cold people in this country - well amongst our species. Disturbing.
Proper
I think Netanyahu completely misread the support he thought he would get around the world. Getting a governments support and getting the peoples support are two very different things. I think we all know Netanyahu allowed the attacks to happen and was aware that a sacrifice of his own people was going to be part of it. He needed extra war powers and is desperately trying to get out of his bribery and corruption charges. The UN needs to send in a peacekeeping force to Israel and detain Netanyahu and his war cabinet for transfer to The Hague.
Spoke my mind 💯
My understanding is a majority of the soldiers stationed on the Gaza line were Foreign volunteers from Europe and the US. Maximum international effect by his 'allies' having citizens as casualties appears to be deliberate also.
And what do you think the other side was doing? It was exactly the same thing..
Nobody will talk about the true core of this conflict, which is conflicting superstitious supremacist ideologies...
It is not really about land at all..
The only people who can do anything about him are the Israelis. He is their responsibility.
I don't think he cares, its the political and economical elite that runs things, even in the west the people don't really matter, they get distracted, and He has support from both major parties in a lot of western countries, so how the people vote on this matter doesn't make a change, as both Tories/Labor, Dem/Rep are Israels lap dogs.
You're a great man James 🌹
That is such an excellent question. This guy is quickly turning into one of my favs.
Salute to you, James for exposing the caller (wolf in sheep clothing).
Excellent journalism! Thank you, on behalf of decent people across the entire world
James O'Brien, I salute you sir 👏 👏👏
I truly admire the way James put the question to the caller.
James is such a brilliant tactician when it comes to reasonable debate. He reduces topics to a central point and continues to drive home questions when the other person tries to avoid a direct clear answer
He’s even better than mehdi Hassan when he wasn’t a sellout…James has a much nicer way to set them up to speak out their biased stuff that they hide behind fancy words..u will always see a narc sociopath get enraged when their cover is blown and they get very aggressive almost every time like here
He’s a loathsome toad
James o brien is not smug, doesn’t think he’s smarter than everyone . Absolutely a humble guy who is open to other people’s opinions. Really decent guy.
I’m not being sarcastic, he’s a pillar role model for how men should be
Except by those that get Outed as whatever bigot they are 😂
Honestly in this case, he's not. He just prevents the caller to respond anything else than what he wants
I really appreciate James. Thank you for being impartial, the media is so biased that is why it’s getting everyone so angry. People like James will help cool the anger
He's a sociopath.
@@stuartbritton4811 see how you have 0 likes and the guy above has over 100. Yeah just keep it quiet
@@stuartbritton4811You most be Jewish ✡ and have right to your opinion
@@dutchman2835 many Jewish are not considering Palestinians' life matter less than Israeli's life.
James O'Brien. I genuinely take my hat off to you sir. This is true journalism without bias and it is refreshing to hear. I have no words for the respect you've gained from me. All lives are equal and should be treated as such. Doesn't matter what they're religious background or cultural belonging is. Whether you believe in organised religion or not, these times have been prophecised, a time when leaders would lead unjustly using false pretences and facades. A time when people will flock to those who lie convincingly but shun the truthful. We live in a time of technological advancements and sociatial elevation, yet the more we as humanity progress, the more pain and suffering we unleash upon ourselves.
IF it is known that at least one innocent person will die in a carpet bombing raid, then it IS on purpose!!! Obtuseness should be outlawed!
Ironically the more he beat around the bush, the more he exposed himself.
Its an apartheid and palistinians have been dehumanised for so long and here we are. This is insane that somehow we have also adopted the same rhetoric
Ok thicko.
Nice soundbite
Those Palestinians that have a wonderful life in Israel. Jobs, family, nice homes etc would disagree.
@@lostintranslation1957what a liar! Shame on you.
Thank you, Mr. O'Brien. You are a wonderful human being.
James is a brilliant human being
I'm so happy people like you are here James. So smart.
James is the last of old media i can listen to. i appreciate my truth wasnt a lie.
Agreed! Sadly, it seems that James is the last of a dying breed.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot"
~ Mark Twai
James in recent times has seen the light, and is now speaking the truth. For that I greatly appreciate and applaud him.
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Mark thanks for showing your ignorance, at least we all know now your poor insight into the situation just like the caller.
Now some enlightenment for you.
Simply Google *netanyahu funds hamas*.
Don't bother to reply, unless you understand the truth..
It will only take you 5-10 mins to see a whole other side to this conflict.
@@Markiboy3well Israel people chose war as they elected Bibi so they get that response as well. Oaf
@@Markiboy3About 75% of the Gazan population were either not born, or were too young to vote in 2006, when Hamas won the elections. How can you hold them responsible for that happening?