the TRUTH about building an A-frame cabin!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video, we talk about our initial plans to build an A-frame and why we are no longer building one. We absolutely love A-frames, but it seems like a lot of people are building them right now. Do you agree?
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Do you guys like A-frames? We certainly do!
Im obsessed with them, yurts, cob building, and anything fun
apparently it depends on the area and local code. if you have to deal with lots of snow, it's a problem. if zero snow like in Florida, the math is different
@@dansouza1623 What you mean a problem? A-frame are made for areas with lots of snow.
A frame and gambrel roof are both mostly efficient lowest lumber cost buildings but only if built traditionally as a beam structure rather than stick structure. Stick is fine for a smaller build..but when you have really long spans of structural material it's much harder with stick construction. Larger structure would need to be steel to avoid engineering costs of wooden beams. The huge lumber of the past is all gone.
You guys designed the A-frame house so beautifully
So... Don't build a giant impractical A frame if you want to turn a profit on Air BNB. Got it.
lol, it was 1300 sqft...
Woah…the old rook has stirred..
A-Frames are usually smaller than traditional homes averaging 800-1500 square feet. Which cuts down on cost. But typically A frames in 2023 cost 100-200 per square foot. My house is estimated cost of $350,000 total for a 3br 2bath a frame home.
@@ColeMilesThedid you build it out of gold plated wood?
@@JacobyLacoby 300 per square foot for natural materials 1500 square feet total we are talking 28ft pitch legally only 3 feet under needing a red light on it. Etc....
I built a 1400+ square foot A-frame last year in North Washington State we too get cold and snow...it was much cheaper to build than my original thought of a logcabin...by combining the roof and walls this saves money yet you do lose living space...I love mine its quaint and rustic yet modern.. I could care less how my A-frame stacks up against any other A-frame on any social media, though...Best Wishes!
How much did it cost you?
Yeah, how much was the overall cost in the end?
@@ryanr.8077 17.3% less expensive
I’m looking to build one in west NC near Asheville. Any chance I could pick your brain about your build?
@@dsgant1616
All of you would need to crunch the numbers yourself. It would not be the same in different states.
I'm pretty sure the reason you don't like a frames is because you weren't going to build it yourself, A frames were made to be constructed by amateurs, kind-of like an Ikea house. They're super easy to build because the walls and roof are the same thing, so you can basically make 50 degree angles with the rafters and lift them into place.
have you built one?
@@NorthofNowhere. No, I'm an architectural student
@@NorthofNowhere.
Was that meant to sound pissy, or did i read it wrong?
@@NorthofNowhere. hahaha great reply.
I can't imagine 'standing out on social media' being a criteria for the type of home I choose.
we're building this for a rental. If we're talking personal residence, I agree and could care less.
what is the hierarchy of best air bnb designs?@@NorthofNowhere.
@@NorthofNowhere.lol. You said in your video that stand out on social media. FFS.
The cost was so high because of building a DIY cabin you were looking at an A frame McMansion. NO comparison
our design certainly was a major piece of it. We wanted something unique and different from other a-frames, which came at a cost. With the said, if you want the modern a-frame look with things like the metal standing seem roof, gable window wall and the roof structure to meet minimum insulation r-values (depending on where you live) , it adds up quick with a-frames.
The quality of this Video is so immaculate that when I saw you only had 1.6k subs I was shocked. Love this content. keep making more videos.
thanks so much! We will!
also surprised and also subbed
When Social media dictates you're life lol
Two years from now: Someone will make a video about how they are not going to build a tower design because it's tough to stand out from all the other tower designs. We're building round.
could happen!
I'm still gonna build an A frame
do it! to be clear, we love a-frames. We were just having trouble staying within our budget with the construction industry and climate here in northern michigan.
I was also thinking to build an A-frame (from a kit). But, mathematically, it's not a good idea.
The materials do cost more. Heating and cooling aren't fabulous either.
The same A-frame kit supplier offers container-like home kits much cheaper for the same dwelling area.
Not to mention a container-like home is the easiest to build and as a bonus, you can relocate it if you want.
Heating and cooling is also risk free for container homes.
I love the A-frame look, but I can build a container home by myself (1 person).
I bought an A-frame on a lake for cheap because the guy was leaving the state. I found it was impractical with lack of floor space. I tore it down to the floor and cut the rafters to make studs. The leftover length of the rafters made the span for the new 2nd floor joists. I didn’t have to buy much to make a new roof for the loft and sheet the loft. I sold it and tripled my money.
I'm a builder in Northern Michigan. We're over in Alpena and do not see a lot of A-frames. There are a few and I've always been intrigued by them and have also considered a build out for a short term rental. Another cost efficient method I am considering is a mountain style (shed roof). Its interesting to see how different styles come and go and how people tend to gravitate back to the old school simple methods!
I really, really tried to get your purpose for this video. What im left with is that its not cost affective. I think maybe your area of the country, supply issues and higher builder costs of Northern states are more the issue. Not all Northern states. In Southern Appalachia we build A-frames that are Very cost efficient wich are very affordable. I know in Maine through my builder friends that it's way more efficient and affordable to go with A-frames than traditional which are alot more complicated to build and it gets pretty cold in Maine. So to anyone thinking of an A-frame dont get scared off because of someone else's experience do your own research, just sayin.
Thank you for sharing the complete and detailed A-frame cabin construction process from design to completed construction.
thanks for watching!
This is very good video..the editing is amazing...I remember when yall were first starting out. Levi Kelly is dominating this airbnb tour space, but I remember at that time you and a few others were just starting out. Cheers to much more success in this industry and youtube (I am a small youtuber on another channel).
thank you so much for the support! big fan of levi!
Very useful video, thank you
This video was extremely helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I love A Frames; as a matter of fact I'm looking bc I want a tiny home. Thank you for sharing!
we love them too. Good luck on your tiny home!
Look up deek diedrickson. I built a tiny a frame for a couple thousand dollars based on his plans. That wasn’t with salvaging materials other than a bit of siding- talking a real steel door with double locks, sliding screened windows, laminate flooring, solar powered interior lights, etc
TRUTH is what got me because you were sincere about not only the actual home but your overall content strategy around that..
I'm glad I found this. I'm also in Michigan and have been tossing around an A frame construction like yours (just not elevated). Sounds like it isn't as cheap as I thought it would be
@northofnowhere thanks a lot for sharing all this information. Can I ask if you considered to use sandwich panel for the roof ?
I almost did it too… concept was A-Frame as a mid-western Teepee on rural land in Cherokee influenced NE, OK.
Quick question about your lumber package prices. Did you get the AFrame quote when we were still in covid? I know lumber has dropped pretty low this year and I’d be curious what that lumber pack quote would be now on your AFrame.
it was after COVID, but still kind of on the tail end of it. I can't remember what lumber was at then, but most of the cost was driven up by the engineered lumber, not your 2X stuff.
Great job on your video and very good points as well. Maybe because I'm not from a social media generation, but for me I have zero thought of standing out or not. An A-Frame can do well with spray foam insulation, foundation with insulation and in floor heating/HVAC provided by geo-thermal. Geo-thermal BTW even works exceptionally well even in Northern Mi where I also live (Cheboygan). Spray foam and geo-thermal are both items that make you cry once but pay huge dividends in the long run. My older home (but well insulated) has a 15 year old geo-thermal system and my biggest electric bill in the coldest winter months has never exceeded $240. I'm also a big user of electric in general.
totally understand and if you're not building an a-frame for a business purpose like we were, I'm all for them. We'd still love to build one someday. Agreed on the spray and in-floor comment. Initial price is hard to swallow, but long-term efficiency makes it worth it. We are doing that on the smaller cabin build we just started.
@@NorthofNowhere. I cvompletely get where you're coming from and likely making the best decision for what your goals are.
which software are you using for design?
My parents and I built my a-frame in the Canadian Rockies. My dad has built 6 houses previously and this was by far the most complicated build. Had a known how complicated it was I would have chosen another design. We couldn't even get anyone to come spray it so it required very deep wells for a lot of insulation. But when I was looking to stay in an Airbnb to see if I would like an A-frame, there was not one anywhere near me. I would have to fly out to the coast of Canada or to the states. There are a couple of smaller ones being built in the area, which I assume are for Airbnb, and there is another large one that is private. It was way more expensive and way more work but I do have to say I adore it
this was exactly our experience too. Everything online tells you that an A-frame is the easiest and cheapest construction method, but depending on your building code and climate, it can be the exact opposite. A lot of builders aren't used to building them so they end up charging a higher price per sqft, or the local building department makes you over-engineer it, adding cost. I do think there is a way to do it still, but you have to be intentional and efficient in your design.
In Maine it’s actually a pretty common house style, there’s probably 10 within 15 mins from my place and more if you go north
This was awesome. You’ve nailed the story telling, and that makes total sense. Thanks for sharing this was really great advice.
always appreciate the support and kindness Benny!
There are a couple large old A frames in my neighborhood. They stand out in from the craftsman style and Tudors that were popular in the area at the time.
they certainly stand out!
I live in tropical country without snow and logs and Wood are pretty cheap here. Is building A shape house like this will cost more efficient than building a traditional concrete house?
I live in tropical country as well.. I'm considering build the second floor out of wood because it's cheaper, probably.. but what about the insulation since the location is directly in equator and it's very hot here..
Interesting video! Have some property under contract near Jackson hole and was wanting to build an A frame for air bnb as well but may look into other options. Thanks!
Love Jackson Hole! Was just there last year hiking in the Tetons. I'm pro A-frame if you can find a contractor to build one affordably and if they're aren't 100 other A-frames in your area already. There are a bunch near us and being built which was a big factor in our decision. Keep us posted if you start building!
One of my friends lived in a yurt there in Jackson. The area is/was called yurt-ville , it had on site laundry, bathrooms and showers. I don't know if it still exists because at the time around 2005-10 the property was owned by a woman in her 90s. All the yurt ville residents were not sure if she have to sell her land to the national park yurt ville sits on
. Property owning is very strange in Jackson, you can own the home but not the land it sits on its a lease . Even stranger if you want and qualify to buy a home there under market value you are placed on a waiting list , my friend was on the waiting list for 9yrs. The program is designed for the residents of Jackson that are fireman, police, teachers nurses and any PT therapist ( my friend is a PT ) all those salaries are too low to buy a regular home, TH condo ect in Jackson. It was program developed by town of Jackson. Without this program these people w these occupations would have to live min 3hrs++ away to afford it to commute to Jackson to work.
that is so interesting. I remember looking at real estate price while we were there and it was shocking to see some of the prices for 1000 sqft condos. Makes total sense why they created that program, but kind of a bummer when it comes to people like you trying to build!
Great points, l am obsessed with A Frames and it does appear to be a global trend, this type of home has become the architectural zeitgeist. A collective longing for the ambience, the fireplace, the soaring ceilings, the windows, the environment.
Absolutely phenomenal video ! I am about to build a home in the mountains and was looking at an A-Frame.
This has made me seriously re think that idea! Also, I cannot find anyone who can build one so there is also that…….
good builders are hard to come by these days! best of luck and hope you can start on something soon!
So basically you hired and hired and hired to have something completely impractical designed and built and then wondered why it was too expensive. They're not meant to be gigantic buildings.. they're meant to be small and potentially built by 1 man. This is just predatory real estate.
it was 1200 sqft.
Spheres, cuboids and cylinders are the shapes with the smallest area vs volume.
Prisms and pyramids do not fit the bill.
A cylinder ( a tower) would be one of the best solutions, but who the heck can build a cylinder?
Next best choice is a "cuboid" tower.
We had one drawn up and put builder is charging $240/sqft. It’ll be in northern NM. It’s 1000sqft and lumber quote was $115k! I think that’s steep and will shop around.
5:36 - That style of adding onto an A-frame makes a lot of sense. It also makes it stand out among other typical designs. The addition is a great place to put the bathroom and utilities, and doesn't have to cost a ton.
*One thing to consider:*
Some _VERY_ profitable rentals were built on the cheap with bare-bones amenities - as the *location* is more important to the guests than the comforts of a modern house. Many people who rent these places simply want a quaint "rustic" getaway in nature, and will spend most of their time outdoors, not the house itself. Thus the outdoor amenities - like a porch with furniture, a fire pit, hot tub, etc. - are perhaps more important than a pristine modern interior.
The value in an a frame is simplicity and low cost if you keep it simple… and do it yourself. Hiring someone else, well, it’s going to be pricey.
Build it yourself, it ll take some time but be super cheap. I want one in Mi in the UP thats what brought me here. What ever you guys do, GL
thank you!
Yo guys I am impressed! Excellent video production quality and editing. You guys have a highly underrated channel. Keep going!
thank you! we appreciate that so much!
Im convinced. I definitely want an a frame.
Interesting information and well presented. I really liked the input on changes to Air B&B that could impact a property if you were renting it or A-B&Bing it. I have been researching building an a-frame because of the snow load problem in Alaska and cutting costs compared to traditional box building. With 1 caveat I found pretty much the direct opposite on costs though. The caveat is that contractors (the average contractor) typically doesn't know what to do with nontraditional building techniques and either doesn't know how to bid it or just ask stupid prices hoping you go away but will build it if you are dumb enough to pay them. I actually had two contractors tell me $400 a square foot is that number for them (in the height of covid). One also told me they treat each floor as the same square footage as the bottom floor even if it's just a loft on each end.
Fascinating! The choice of design and where the construction takes place can absolutely make a big difference in terms of costs, something we experienced firsthand. I'd imagine that Northern Michigan shares similarities with Alaska in the sense that we both face a shortage of builders, leading to minimal competition and inflated estimates being offered in hopes of landing some lucrative projects. When you factor in that a majority of individuals are purchasing homes using cash up here due to some of the most desirable lakefront property in the Midwest, it certainly adds to the challenges. Best of luck with your build!
Great video and thanks for sharing your experience. There are so many variables in this process, such as location. We built our Aframe (3550sqft) in the Midwest and managed to come in at $250-$260 / sqft (~$230 / sqft excluding land cost). We went with a kit from one of the companies you mentioned (~$90K cost for LVL lumber, sheathing, etc.) We got extremely lucky with our contractor who was will commit to a cost+ contract. This gave us much needed flexibility and transparency throughout the build. Also, building a larger cabin helps with cost efficiency as well. Doing this is only pragmatic if there's demand for larger capacity stays in your area.
awesome to hear that you guys were able to build one! Location is definitely a huge factor for us, as well as the lack of builders up here. The fixed costs of building is something we've learned along the way! Is it a personal cabin for you guys are a rental?
Sounds nice but WOW that is one pricey AirBnB to build!
A-frames are simple and cheap to build, as long as you design them on the basis of which materials you have access to.
For instance, back in the 60s-70s, you'd find 24' long dimensionnal lumber, which is not the case anymore. That being said, you'll find 20' long dimensionnal lumber pretty much everywhere. For instance, a 2x10x20 currently sells for less than 30 CAD in Quebec.
Obviously, that would make the cabin a lot smaller than what you were working on, but that explains the price difference.
agreed. I think you have to be very intentional and have a good architect that has experience with a-frames. Ours was engineered to death and caused the material price to sky-rocket.
Just found your channel and have subscribed. Good content. Where will you be building? I notice you wearing a Short’s hat; my wife and I just purchased property in Antrim County to be closer to family. We will be building our home in the near future so will be following your journey to learn what I can.
thank you! we're building in Bellaire, you?
What is the piece of music in the intro?
I happen to be building an A-Frame in the next town over from you. I'm going for one over a basement, so it's effectively a normal house, sunk halfway into the ground. Antrim county is beautiful.
awesome! Which town?
@@NorthofNowhere. Mancelona. I'm also trying to buy the train station, but I have no idea if that's going to pan out.
2020 lumber prices were insane. I’m sure if you quoted it night the price will be way more reasonable. Your point about the saturation of A frames on the market is super valid though! Looking forward to seeing how you guys put a twist on the A-Frame!
thank you! Lumber was definitely more expensive when we quoted that out, but not at the peak. A lot of that cost was the engineered lumber.
If you guys decide to sell the plan, i would get it! Im trying to make one in the Caribbean.
Where?
Great Video! Was also sold on an A-Frame until i saw the perfect tower several months ago. Build a home for the next 50 years and thats a Modern Tower. 👍
you can't go wrong with an a-frame or tower! Both are stunning IMO
How much was the total cost for the tower?
making a video on that soon, but about 20-30% more.
The A frames work very good in the jungle here in peru . How do you manage a rain in a tower design?
we have very sandy soil up here in michigan, so drainage is not usually an issue, and the steel roof keeps it out of the house.
I like the honesty throughout the video. I learned a lot. Thanks for making it.
thanks for watching!
There’s pros and cons to every housing style. Depends on what you want. Makes sense why you chose what you did. I would sacrifice living space for an A-frame. But I decided to live in a ranch style house built in 51, rather than a bigger two-three story house that looks like a box with what I consider no character. It comes with some challenges as beating and cooling isn’t as effective. All down to preference.
100%
I appreciate anyone that takes the time of making content that's more than them just goofing around on the camera, with that in mind however I feel like people coming your channel should know that you're not here building this stuff for your own personal use, and I definitely feel like the title of your video is kind of I wouldn't say clickbait but it definitely makes someone who doesn't know what your channel is about go oh no what's wrong with a frames I better click it
Could i get some info on the tower..i am going to build 6 units and would like to get some info if possible.
more info on that coming soon!
Also interested in the tower info. Please let me know.
Totally depends on where you’re building your a frame. If you’re building them as an off grid small cabin like you’re supposed to. They ain’t that bad. Lived in one in Alaska.
location is a major factor.
I think Scandinavian homes are the best fit for the North side of the USA and Canada.
A 1 and 1/2-story home would offer a better dwelling area than A-frame, an ideal slope for solar panels ( 40-55 degrees) and won't break the bank.
Im gonna build one. I have a sawmill and all the trees. Learn by doing. Fuck everybody else.
What about building an "A" Frame in a much warmer climate like in Arizona or New Mexico?
climate is a huge factor. We have snow load requirement and insulation requirements that add cost here in Northern Michigan, so that would help!
We have property on Beaver Island MI. Honestly most of the cost for us is LABOR! doing it ourselves will save a ton of $$. We arent building as big as your images as well so we wont need as much material. hope it goes well for your build.
love Beaver Island! Yes, labor is definitely a large line item too. We strongly considered doing it ourselves, but we live 4 hours away and both work full-time. My guess is that it would take us at least twice as long to build it if we went that route, which is time that it could be rented and cash flowing. Depending on area and financials, the amount saved doing it yourself could be offset from lost income by having it in service sooner, if you're planning on making in a rental. If not, DIY is definitely the way to go.
Whatever you decide on building, make sure you use plenty of nails! Pound them in good now... LOL! Nice video. Thank you.
haha we will! thanks for watching!
Interesting topic and video but we stuck around through a long explanation hoping to see the benefits of the tower!
Now i want an A-frame!
they are cool looking!
Where or from whom did you purchase your tower kit
they are custom plans that we designed and worked with an architect to create
@@NorthofNowhere. Hello, could you tell me what program you use to design your own plans?
Don't see too many A-Frames in mountains around SoCal - ones that do come on the market are snapped up instantly- maybe a day on the market or have a bidding war. So resale isn't a problem.
cheapest house is the one the builder can frame the quickest, and trades can wire/plumb the easiest etc
yeah, unfortunately a lot of framers and subs aren't as used to A-frames as they are other stick builds, in our experience, which ends up adding cost.
You could do a vented roof deck.
I built a 1200 sq ft A Frame in South Texas on Canyon Lake. It is high spec house wrapped in cedar with a standing seam metal roof backed by titanium sheeting to protect against hail which will kill a roof in my area. Not cheap at all as I could have built a normal 3000 sq foot house for the same money. My house is on a slope so I had concrete piers poured on top of huge block footers that go down to the Texas limestone. I spent $60K on the foundation engineering and materials alone (2012). I am a retired engineer who worked in Seattle, Philly and Texas for that famous aerospace company years ago so my house is definitely overbuilt. I also have 2 X 6 outer walls and spray foam as well as composite laminated beams in the floors and my rafters are also spray foamed as well as the underfloor area. I have a wood stove that gets me through the occasional power outage in the winter and the house is all electric and on a aerobic septic system. I maintain a 75 degree temperature year round (I mostly COOL the house with a/c as it is South Texas) and you can feel the temperature drop as you step into it from the plus 100 degree heat most spring/summer/fall days. It is located across the street that fronts the lake, and the edge of my first floor deck is 14 feet above the ground. It is nestled in live oak trees and folks refer to it as the tree house. The view is outstanding and the sunsets are fantastic. And it is the ONLY A frame on my street as Texans prefer more massive style homes. My tiny house stands out in the crowd. Plus being tiny for a Texas house my property taxes are also tiny as you are taxed on square footage and I just have a 2 bedroom 2 bath. A frames are not for everyone but if you do one correctly you will have a house that will stand out from the crowd.
I like it, but would make bump-outs on the sides.
the one we designed had a bump-out on one of the sides for two queen bunk beds and a bathroom!
I laughed my head off when I saw the title. I can just about assemble an IKEA flat pack let alone a triangular building. But well done you two. ❤
I just checked Airbnb in Ireland we have not even one A frame😂
I found one single story tiny room in Killarney, what looks like A frame.
sounds like there is an opportunity for one in your area!
I guess I'm not understanding why you need so much "engineered" lumber for "roof support" when the walls are pitched at such steep angles. Yes, you get a lotta snow. But it's not a snow load anywhere near that of a traditional or flat roof.
the insulation values required in the ceiling are high up here due to low temps, but our A-frame was definitely over engineered.
A-frames appeal to certain state of mind. When i sit and smoke a joint, I get self indulgent with the geometry and bake in kimberling triangles and euler points. It is impractical perfection. An amusement on paper. One day I'll build a building meant as a teaching demonstration of geometry, trigonometry, and calculus.
lol, they certainly are gorgeous. We love their geometry too. There's something uniquely stunning about it and it's symmetry.
Interesting, I was just checking airbnb here and I can’t find any aframes. Maybe it’s a Michigan thing? Idk
A-frame are very popular in Michigan, so it definitely depends on your location!
Be careful with hitting the windows to get rid of a mosquito. I broke a windshield one time. I didn't realize that after the car was in 120F all day the windows don't need to much pressure to break.
I'm going to buy land and try to build it myself! No where near the size of this design. Think I have a 22 by 34 ft design with the second floor walls going up for feet. And depending on the cost I'll like to do a full basement
best of luck building! this design was 1300 sqft, so not all that large.
Looking at doing this in south Louisiana.
Nice work on documenting. Your Aframe did appear however to be very large. Maybe too large. Some of the most profitable Airbnbs are the most clever at using space. Also a very interesting very profitable Airbnb is called "The Butterfly" Airbnb built based in Texas. Your new design doesn't have to be a perfect square. You can add some slants to the roof and be just creative enough call attention to itself.
totally agree on adding little accents to make it distinctive from other a-frames. our design was 1300 sqft. I think the rendering makes it seem larger than it was.
It did look larger than 1,300! Still on the larger side. Also would have love to hear more about costs, being I just build a 300sq ft home....and If you look up Onera properties, their units get more than $1000 a night and are smaller than 500sq ft and have no views other than being surrounded by trees.@@NorthofNowhere.
1300sqft is huge for an Aframe cabin, try going half that and using your space more efficiently (coming from a mechanical engineer that has been working with archs/builders for 5 years.) Also went to school in the UP (kewenew) so know snow as well.
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welcome!
My Dad built one for my family when I was a kid. My parents broke up so we never got to live in it. I have land I'm going to build a mini A-frame to see if it is still what I want. I don't care about trends. I haven't seen any new A-frames built here in Australia. Pity about the cost over there and so many popping up.
do it! we still love them, but was more of a business decision for us rather than personal preference. we still want to build one someday
Uhhhh how do I get plans like your tower haha I love that that thing!!!!!
we might make them available one day!
The surface area of the roof is going to contribute to a lot of the cost.
For a 60 sq meters (646 sq fr) - 6 by 10 meters (20 by 33 ft) house ...
The surface area of the roof is
70 degree : 175 sq meters (1,884 sq ft), floor to roof height: 4.46 meters (14.63 ft)
60 degree : 120 sq meters (1,292 sq ft), floor to roof height: 4.05 meters (13.29 ft)
55 degree : 105 sq meters (1,130 sq ft), floor to roof height: 3.80 meters (12.47 ft)
50 degree : 93 sq meters (1,001 sq ft), floor to roof height: 3.54 meters (11.61 ft)
45 degree : 85 sq meters (915 sq ft), floor to roof height: 3.25 meters (10.66 ft)
If you don't like stairs you could go with no upper floors, and e.g. a 55 degree roof.
Lw case ad A sono straordinarie ed economiche, io le adoro
TLDR; don't put your retirement dreams in the hands of AirBnb. (which may or may not even be allowed by the time you finish your cabin in your area)
Don't know what's exactly expensive, it's a timber frame construction,less complicated than standard timber frame house,an 250mm insulation will give you a an ur rating of 0.16-0.18 ,the A frame wall/roof area is basically the same as a one storey houses wall+roof area. Steel sheet roof is cheaper then wooden cladding which is painted and then needs to be repainted every 5 year's.
what software do u use?
to edit video? Premiere Pro.
@@NorthofNowhere. to design the house
I'm wondering if in Louisiana it would be cheaper. No real winter
definitely would be! you don't need nearly the amount on insulation or snow-load requirements.
Nobody said you had to do a roof the same way. There are tons of other alternatives for roofing that can still look nice.
True, but I think a metal roof is the standard for modern looking a-frames. A traditional shingle roof would be half the price, but doesn't look nearly as good IMO.
it's expensive for 4 weathers.. in PH we only have 2 weather so this is the cheapest option..
definitely - all depends on local climate and building code!
I dont understand why you had to have LVL rafters. Why not just 2x10s? Sorry Im commenting as im watching
hmm..good question. I don't think the 2x10's would span as far as we needed, and obviously are more prone to warping and and twisting over time. I don't think our building department would allow it.
I'm in MI (lower peninsula) and planned to built an A frame. This was depressing.
Lower MI is much different than upper MI. More builders and competition leads to better pricing, so that could help! It can be done, but a lot of what you read online is vastly different than what you hear when you start talking to builders.
30 seconds in... I'd like to read that Miss Manners article. At least, I hope that heading is for the advice column and not that someone was mistreating their stepkids like farm animals.
Dishing builders of 50s and 60s like that was just wrong on so many levels! Those people were more skilled and their work often was ten times better than workers of today!
Otherwise thanks for the info! I think the problem is that A Frames are very popular today and for that reason builders tend to give bigger prices as well.
I didn't dish the builders. I simply said building codes and ordinances were not nearly as robust back then, which is true. Agree on the popularity leading to higher cost too!
The point of A frame is not standing out but to have a home resistant to snow loads....
that certainly is a benefit, but I think in more recent years the geometry and eye appeal of them is what has caused a wave of them to be built. You're seeing them in climates that hardly get any snow.
@@NorthofNowhere. Yea fair enough. Being from Europe things are a bit different here. We have building regulations so you couldn't build one where it doesn't fit.
Spray foam is EXPENSIVE lol. Quoted a 30x50 quonset, about 35k for 2.5" closed cell insulation. Fuck THAT lol
Gotta sub to fellow Michiganders.
love to see fellow Michiganders here. Where at in Michigan?
@@NorthofNowhere. Thumb area.
$400 for a metal roof is a steal over here in New York
Per square
oh I'm sure. Michigan is a relatively low cost of living state, so I can only imagine what the cost would be in NY.
A Frames are for short people. And If you can build yourself the tower design is way more efficient way to build. A Frames are easy but the roofing is costly for the net square footage. They go up quick but interior space is limited.
true!
Ah, yoopers. Gotcha.
7:39 - I bet Airbnb did that change because it means more profit for them; the company doesn't want customers to be enticed by lower cost "mom & pop" offerings. They want people to splurge on emotion & luxury.
Sort of like how car manufacturers will advertise their expensive flagship models more in an effort to steer buyers away from their lower profit ones.
definitely agree!
I used to work in Bellaire :-)
where at?
@@NorthofNowhere. I worked at the grocery store. I was a meat manager for Karl Dingman, and Prevo's. I used to live off Del Mason Road in between Bellaire and Mancelona. I miss it. I grew up on the South End of Torch Lake. Those were good days
Build your own. Way cheaper.
we considered it! And that certainly would've helped some, but we live 3.5 hours away from the build site and just wasn't feasible. Plus, it would've taken us much longer to do it ourselves and there's an opportunity cost for that too.
@NorthofNowhere. I understand. We're 8.5 hours from where our property is, and yes, it's definitely taking alot longer than I was expecting. Good luck with you're build. Hope everything works out for you guys.
thank you! you too!