If Chekov had been here, he would have explained that this truck had been owned by a little old junk dealer in Leningrad, used by him and his son to run a salvage business.
Tom Paris, knowing everything about this truck: Antique vehicles are a hobby of mine. Katherine Janeway, knows horse manure from sight/smell: Manure is a hobby of mine.
This aired in 1995. "Flying cars in the 21st century" was long a thing of science/speculative fiction-"The Jetsons", anyone? An IBM commercial featuring Avery Brooks briefly pokes fun at that one.
It's been in space for centuries (and in the vacuum of space) but has gas in the tank, air in its tires, oil in its crankshaft and the lead/acid battery not only has water in it (batteries at that time were not sealed and we regularly had to put water in thme) but it still has a charge! Ford made an amazing truck.
And the gas and the water that he specifically mentions, none of those frozen lines burst from being frozen or from the vacuum of space. I'm sure there's still air in the tires too !
Man this scene still makes me laugh when Tom starts up that old car and the resultant backfire scares everyone causing them to duck and Tuvok to pull out his phaser.
Typically when a shot is fired and there’s an explosion the shot didn’t come from the sight of the explosion. If a bulkhead exploded in a shower of sparks because of phaser fire you don’t return fire on the poor bulkhead!
@@andycooper6085 true but LOGIC would dictate that the 20th century truck was turned on, followed by the loud bang, so it came from the truck. Instead he is like "its coming from ABOVE me?" His mental health issues are showing, he cant even LOGIC properly.
When Tom is looking for the key, anyone else have a flash of young John Connor reaching up into the visor and dangling the key. "Are we learning yet?" :)
AM not being one of the frequency bands they monitor for. Yeah, no need to keep an ear out for pre-warp civilizations as you're exploring your way home.
I had the same thought, and wouldnt Starfleet have all ships constantly recording all Terran radio frequencies automatically for historical preservation reasons anyway? Depending on distance from earth you could watch Live broadcasts of the Moon Landings, Johnny Carson, ww2 Radio Broadcasts, everything Humanity has ever transmitted. o.o
I don't know why, but I love when sci-fi shows talk about Earth things like relics or like you'd need a degree to know what something it. Only for us to see it and go "Oh yeah, it's this thing"
I remember reading a WH40k Horus Heresy book, where the protagonist visits a museum on earth. There he finds a small vehicle called a "Titan Rover". In his mind Titans are some giant godlike warmachines, so he is confused and looks for a hardpoint to mount a weapon on it.
Go into a Cracker Barrel and count the things hanging from the rafters that you understand. We're talking about a hundred years of advancement and most people would have fingers left to spare.
I always wondered why they didn't pick up food supplies on that planet. There were 3 thriving human cities in a modern state of development. The people on that planet should have sent Janeway and company off with enough coffee and steaks to keep them off of Neelix's lousy cooking for quite some time.
Because it would have made to much sense. I also found it funny they didn't turn foods into powder or have other ways of long term storage in a confined space.
flashkraft the funniest thing is now not even a century later, many people don’t understand a manual choke or a manual starter. Some people don’t even get what a manual transmission is. It’s as sad as it is funny, though.
Not exactly. I doubt the engineering knowledge of this old car and starships of the 24th century have any overlap. This is closer to a modern robot engineer being bewildered by a 17th century automaton, which seems relatively less strange.
I think the in universe explanation would be that the third world war destroyed many artefacts and records from the 20th century and earlier, so lead to a loss of historical knowledge. It's the same how we have a decent knowledge of the world back to the middle ages to the point where many developments from that time are either still in use (even if significantly updated over time) or can be re-created, yet we have the dark ages where we really don't know much. In a way a lot of sci-fi has our present day society as the "dark ages" of the future. Another issue is the point where technology evolves to become unrecognisable from what came before. An object with a wheel at each corner has been a standard mode of transport for centuries, put seats in and it's for carrying people, a flat area and it's for carrying goods. To a society that's grown up with vehicles that hover or fly, the concept of wheeled vehicles would be as alien as a computer being something with wheels and gears would be to us.
@@FortoFight I'm an electrical engineer. Trust me, we're baffled by tubes at this point. Thinking of that, it's POSSIBLE the tubes could have still functioning with it being in a vacuum, but the battery sure wouldn't have, and the engine wouldn't have started. Tubes got replaced by transistors not just because transistors were better (and they absolutely are!) but also because they are easier to work with. I had a course in college 30 years ago where we did the mathematics of tubes, and it's far more complicated than transistors. All that stuff is gone now, since barely anything is analog which is interesting because when I was in college, digital audio and video was still new. The speed of computers today are topping out, but it doesn't matter, because we have really fast computers today. I didn't think we'd be at this point in my lifetime but now a $25 device can do real time decoding of video in high definition. I can send you a film that has high enough quality to be shown on film screen that fits on a $20 SD card. If you're not old enough, you can't appreciate the raw power we have today. I can literally do nuclear bomb simulation on a $100 phone. It makes a super computer from the 1990's look like a primitive device, and those were liquid cooled. Today, it consumes less than 5 watts.
i remember the truck being blue instead of red.. i seen the whole series through a few times... so many episodes over 7 years, voyager is alot to take in... it was necessary for Tom Paris to start the truck in order to get that SOS beacon from the nearby planet. so it was necessary to pollute the cargo bay with them exhaust fumes.. .. basically after this they go to the planet where the other 1937 abductees are held. and they find Amelia Airheart the famous pilot that went missing one day. and no one knows where she went. she was abducted by aliens according to this.
It's apparently a device for traversing planetary surfaces at subwarp speeds. The circular appendages on the sides are called 'wheels,' which are caused to rotate by an internal power source. Adhesion between wheels and planetary surface causes the device to be propelled at velocities approaching .00001 % light speed.
me too, it was after Roddenberry died but still based on his designs. Another show that I love despite its flaws is Andromeda. Also based on notes by Roddenberry found after his death.
@@adisharr I know for a fact that if a star trek show that's exactly like TNG was made today. You fanboys would call it lame. I really believe nostalgia is a factor in your criticisms. Star trek Picard was pretty stupid. Looking back at it. The whole plot was really dumb and there were plot holes and continuity errors. Discovery tries it's best to remain within storyline. I like it a lot.
Voyager I believe does have a projectile weapon specifically designed against the Borg. Can't really adapt to projectile weapons like they can with energy weapons.
@@jimtalor7971 Yes when I first had seen this decades ago I had laughed so loud about this moments after my mother came up asking me what was going up.
An outstanding episode in the series, and my favorite scene in the episode. Especially when everyone including Tuvok freaks out when the truck backfires.
Funny you mention that, I was reading yesterday that Star Man passed close to Mars recently, and also that the vehicle has likely degraded significantly and in a couple hundred years all that will likely be left is the metal frame. This truck didn't seem to have that problem, depite being over 80 years earlier of a model.
@@michaelsmith4904 Well, it is made of steel rather than carbon fibre. Though the tyres and seats should have degraded. Not to mention there shouldn't be any gas, oil or water left in it. The wiring should be shot to to outgassing of volatiles from the insulators.
Time also exists in space just as it does on planets so what you meant to say was "all the fluids would eventually freeze and the paint would eventually bleach". Time in action.
@@krashd 1 year later, algorithm'ed.... but that's lacquer paint, it would have crazed and flaked off, but since "space", it would be a primered (perhaps bare metal) truck surrounded by a cloud of little red flecks. Yes, they'd still be red as I'm almost certain the pigment would be cadmium red with no oxygen or CO2 around to react to it.
The Depression was a "double dip" recession, with the second dip happening in 1938, so 1937 was relatively "good" in terms of the numbers sold. Unfortunately, a fire at the Ford museum destroyed most of the production records, so it may be impossible to know exactly how many were built
This would be like a bunch of us trying to figure out some mid 1800s steam engine. We have a basic idea of what it is supposed to do, but we'd be pretty much groping in the dark trying to make it run.
There would probably be a very niche hobby of running old internal combustion engine cars, like some people still run steam locomotives today. But you're right, the average person wouldn't have a clue how to run it. Hell, most 21st century drivers wouldn't be able to start that truck.
Another problem with SETI; even if you pick up a signal from an alien intelligence, the distances are so vast that they are likely to be dead before you pick it up and you will be dead before their descendants pick up your response.
There are only so many frequencies that are practical for interstellar communication, and the part where they pick up in AMC eight nomad shipping shop apparently missed is just ridiculous! Any ship as advanced as voyager should be able to simultaneously monitor all he’s at the same time and recognize patterns no matter what Form they take.
That's along the lines of something I've been wondering for a while - it's a fact that our planet broadcasts a LOT of EM radiation - radio stations, tv stations, etc. We (as a planet) have only been doing this for the last 100 or so years. Not only that, but at some point in our future, someone might realize that if there were a malevolent alien race out there, they could use those signals to find planets to conquer, and it might be smarter to find a way to NOT draw attention to ourselves - i.e. stop broadcasting our location to the universe. In my opinion, that might give a very small window (a few hundred years) in order to detect a civilization. If they're less technically advanced than us now, they'd not be broadcasting anything. And if they're more advanced, they might be deliberately not broadcasting anything.
So, are the 24th Century explorers familiar enough with the sound of ballistic small-arms fire to mistake the truck's tailpipe for it and react accoringly?
It was so funny when he " clapped / rubbed " his hands after opening the engine hood. It didn't seem that he knew the reason people would do this. ... to clean thier hands from dirt / debris LOL
That one was forced. seriously. he describes it like he doesn't understand what the concept of a key is any longer. Like he suddenly lost the understanding of the _concept_ of a key. It is a fun/wholesome episode don't get me wrong, it is a little forced tho because it has to move the plot. So it's better to pass over some of the more hardcore sciencecy stuff to just enjoy the episode. XD. Also "The era _before_ voice command" OH REALLY WHAT TIPPED YOU OFF?
This scene in itself was charming, but the frequency with which they kept running into stuff from their side of the Galaxy when they were supposed to be makeing a B line back to frendly territory turned the premise into a farce.
"This isn't one of the standard frequencies we monitor. Messages on this channel only travel at the speed of light--too slow for interstellar communications." --Kim explains why Aliens never picked up Earth signals.
I like the fact that they found a truck in space, but all the gasoline would have boiled off, the cylinders would have seized, and the manure would have been dessicated.
They should've brought the truck back in future episodes and used it. Tom and Harry putting around on planets just looking for shit would've been sweet.
Can we all take a moment to appreciate that absolute chance defying odds that 70 thousand light years away from earth they come across a vehicle from Earth. I mean OK so for some reason a vehicle was transported far away into Space.. The fact that it happened to be right in their path as they're heading home is just.. well. literally quintillions to 1 when you think about how vast Space is
The gasoline would've expired in like 1940, the radiator would've cracked in half from the water freezing in the vacuum of space, and the Alfalfa, manure and mud would've mostly drifted away from the truck. At best joining the stream of rust they found in space.
I wonder why they didn't just send everyone home earlier, midway into season 7 for example. It would have been far more fun to see them adapt back to life at home.
@@drmayeda1930 If you watch enough Star Trek, you'll find 310 mark 215 is a very commonly scripted heading, whether it's the course to set or a Warbird declocking or etc lol
@David Roberts The water was the most volatile liquid. If it had been exposed to a vacuum for more than a few minutes, most of it would have evaporated, and the rest would have been frozen by evaporative cooling. It had to have been dropped in that location just minutes (or better yet, seconds) before Voyager picked it up. It's been a long time, so I don't remember the context of this scene, but I'm fairly certain that it was supposed to have been floating around in space a lot longer than that.
@@jameskuyper the seals and whatnot in the engine and radiator would have stopped most of the leakage. The radiator cap is supposed to be the weakest link in that system, and some of those caps are supposed to hold in 16 PSI. 14 PSI is Earth normal, so the water doesn't boil. It might freeze, but not for a couple of days. The vacuum of space may be cold, but it is a vacuum, the best insulator currently known to man.
@@filthyanimal874 Some science fiction is WAY better than others, just like anything else. Compare Voyager to The Expanse, or even to TNG. There is no contest.
@@Starbat88 All the good writers were over at DS9. The premise of Voyager was sound IMO, the writing and making it episodic in format is what killed it.
@@aaronbays4 Indeed. So many missed opportunities. Even keeping Amelia Earhart around as a regular character after this episode, while somewhat silly, would have given some extra character to the show, would have opened new story possibilities, and would have shown a commitment to allowing the show to change and progress. But no, she's just a one-shot character of no consequence, like so many others.... -_-;
They had an episode where two of the main characters turned into lizards because they went too fast and that truck starting is still the most unrealistic thing that happened this show.
Wolfman Jack was born in 1938,even then,radio waves from his broadcasts starting in the 50's to the 80's would've dissipated long before leaving the alpha quadrant.
I always admired, respected and down right loved Captain Kathryn Janeway. Without even realizing it she was my ideal example of a Strong Woman of integrity and conviction. Her gender never mattered to me. It was always her character.
As much as I've always enjoyed Voyager, I've always had MAJOR issues with this episode, "The 37's". A truck frifting out in space for 400+ years with both water in the radiator, gas in the tank & a charged battery ? The water in the radiaator & the electrolyte in the battery cells would have boiled off immediately in the vacuum of space, (thereby killing the battery), the gas would have vaporized soon after due to the standard fuel tank vent, (or would have gone from gas, to turpentine, to a shellac-like substance in both the tank, the fuel pump & the carburetor). There is no plausible way that this old Ford would have, or could have, been started. And that's not even taking the massive damage from both solar & stellar debris & micro-meteors, (intact window glass & not one dent or any holes), and all of the loose manure in the truck bed into consideration. This is is screaming for all of us to suspend our disbelief & accept something that literally just COULD NOT HAPPEN.
Because television is an entertainment source. Superman can't fly and neither can The Flying Nun. Samantha is not a real witch and Mr. T was really a wrestler. And NOBODY really loved Raymond.
Really? What's next? You mean Get Smart wasn't really about spies??! Hogan wasn't really a Hero? Moonlighting wasn't about sex??! I'll bet you don't go to a lot of parties, do you?
"Ancient distress signal"--I've often thought that Trek and other science fiction stories often use the word "ancient." Morse code goes back to around 1837 and this episode would be set around 2372--535 years later. B'Elanna calling the signal ancient is roughly the equivalent of our calling Christopher Columbus an ancient explorer.
The pace of change of technology has increased dramatically over time, and if that continues, the difference between now and 2372 will be about the same as the difference between 2372 BC and today. Analog radio using Morse code would be ancient to them as communication via knotted cords are to us. They might even view the days before humans left Earth orbit the way we view the days before humans left Africa.
But morse code still exsisted in TOS. In one of the novels, checkov used it to try and send a message banging on the wall of a turbolift. They called it spacer's code.
It's such a tiny, off-hand remark: They don't monitor radio frequencies for anything useful because it's too slow for interstellar communications. No one who's saying something they'd be concerned about is using radio waves.
Using enough holodeck time to know things about the truck and how it's supposed to work, but not enough to know exactly where the key is from the very start. At least he's trusting the available sims to be fairly correct. (If I tried to run a real locomotive after playing some steam engine sim, I'd likely blow myself up.)
It's a 1937 Ford, it has doors which pickup trucks prior didn't have from the factory, the Morse code picked up was an SOS although transmitted too slow to be a person transmitting it
If Chekov had been here, he would have explained that this truck had been owned by a little old junk dealer in Leningrad, used by him and his son to run a salvage business.
Now some one needs to do a mashup of the tos theme and sanford and son. Similar key structures.
Well, it was a Russian invention, Keptin.
Yeltsin and Son, of course!
An american truck from a Russian factory? Doubtful. It could be based on a russian design.
@@drmayeda1930 former Lend-Lease truck maybe? Some 400,000 jeeps and trucks were delivered to the Soviet Union during WW2.
Tom Paris ladies and gentlemen. Pilot, mechanic, medic, commando, historian, and engineer, a true Renaissance man.
Don't forget captain proton
@@septimiusthedestroyer7394 Mirror Universe Captain Proton would be Captain Antiproton.
AND he hooked up (and settled down) with a fine half-Klingon, half-human broad.
Makes kim looks like a real dull guy.
Also was a Fish and had kids with Janeway.
Tom Paris, knowing everything about this truck: Antique vehicles are a hobby of mine.
Katherine Janeway, knows horse manure from sight/smell: Manure is a hobby of mine.
Like Kirk, Janeway's another farm kid. Only she's from Indiana
She's also an expert in complete and total horseshit.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons Anybody who is forced to eat Neelix's cooking is an expert in horseshit.
Well, tbh, all actors are experts in manure. Paid posers, pretending to be something they're not. Think about it.
@@tonyk8592 Relax, tune down the "snark factor" a bit, it's TV. It is 100% MAKE BELIVE!!! Just watch the frigin' show!!!
"Is this an early hover car?"
"You're about a century too early"
So apparently hover cars are a thing by 2036
Tesla have a dream
Flying cars are a thing now. Uber was developing them in New Zealand in conjunction with Hyundai.
This aired in 1995. "Flying cars in the 21st century" was long a thing of science/speculative fiction-"The Jetsons", anyone? An IBM commercial featuring Avery Brooks briefly pokes fun at that one.
“About”
We already have flying cars. They either suck or lack flight clearance. Also ready to have to get both a driver's license and flight license?
It's been in space for centuries (and in the vacuum of space) but has gas in the tank, air in its tires, oil in its crankshaft and the lead/acid battery not only has water in it (batteries at that time were not sealed and we regularly had to put water in thme) but it still has a charge! Ford made an amazing truck.
Okay, I did glance at the comments. I didn't look far enough down. I missed "water in the radiator".
Ya, space is minus 455 degrees. That antifreeze really held up well.
If it still runs, it's a good truck!
Don't knock it!
all the technology in the universe and were driving around in a 1936 ford pos.
so they kept the ford truck int he cargo bay for the next 7 years? XD
So this is the episode where Torres couldn't identify shit with a tricorder
SFDebris’ favourite character study of Torres.
In a subsequent episode, she scans a deep dark depression in the floor at length, confused, and Mr Parris later identifies it as her ass.
They need Tuvok to find shit!
Janeway really knows her shit.
@@david2869 but He ain't found shit!
Magic battery that can remain charged at -270C !
Not if you got it from AAA. 🤣
After 400 years. Good thing that metal didn't pick up cosmic radiation from being out in space.
1937 car batteries were better and more stout than today's battery.
They just don't make them like they used to...😜
And the gas and the water that he specifically mentions, none of those frozen lines burst from being frozen or from the vacuum of space. I'm sure there's still air in the tires too !
Man this scene still makes me laugh when Tom starts up that old car and the resultant backfire scares everyone causing them to duck and Tuvok to pull out his phaser.
Given their weapons make phaser noises, why would they associate backfiring with an attack?
@@_Mentat probably thinks that it's an explosion or something.
The tailpipe backfires so Tuvok aims his phaser at the ceiling. Guess he's showing signs of his Vulcan senility already.
Sudden noise but no idea where from... so he aims at an air vent?
Typically when a shot is fired and there’s an explosion the shot didn’t come from the sight of the explosion.
If a bulkhead exploded in a shower of sparks because of phaser fire you don’t return fire on the poor bulkhead!
Lol that was great!
@@andycooper6085 true but LOGIC would dictate that the 20th century truck was turned on, followed by the loud bang, so it came from the truck. Instead he is like "its coming from ABOVE me?" His mental health issues are showing, he cant even LOGIC properly.
Maybe he simply panicked?
When Tom is looking for the key, anyone else have a flash of young John Connor reaching up into the visor and dangling the key. "Are we learning yet?" :)
I was expecting Harry to do just that!
Yes as well as Worf shooting through the viewscreen.
I also thought of the Independence Day scene when Will Smith's girlfriend found a set of keys in the truck. Same thing as John Connor did
Yes! Exactly what I was thinking!
The keys were already in the ignition?
Lucky the radio didn’t start playing the beastie boys
Bungle2000000000 bahaha
No sleep till Brooklyn would have been funny as hell
I would have expected the radio to play Quincy Jones, "The Streetbeater".
Sabotage?
1:11
AM not being one of the frequency bands they monitor for. Yeah, no need to keep an ear out for pre-warp civilizations as you're exploring your way home.
Prime Directive. Pre-warp civilisations are to be ignored as much as possible
@@corjonbett Not ignored, just not interfered with; a fine distinction. Besides, who actually follows that damn rule, anyways?
@@derekstein6193 It's more of a Prime Suggestion, really.
They don't really have the tech to really investigate pre warp civilizations so it's best to ignore them.
I had the same thought, and wouldnt Starfleet have all ships constantly recording all Terran radio frequencies automatically for historical preservation reasons anyway? Depending on distance from earth you could watch Live broadcasts of the Moon Landings, Johnny Carson, ww2 Radio Broadcasts, everything Humanity has ever transmitted. o.o
The things future people would be amazed at.
"It's an early 21st century "smart phone" with touch screen input."
"Hold up. They touched the screen??"
“That’s like a baby’s toy.”
24th century People still touch screens.
This thread 😆
Theres an episode of The Orville with that as its exact premise. Also Tim Russ (Tuvok) has a cameo in that episode
@@breakdanceinghobo that was a good episode
I don't know why, but I love when sci-fi shows talk about Earth things like relics or like you'd need a degree to know what something it. Only for us to see it and go "Oh yeah, it's this thing"
I remember reading a WH40k Horus Heresy book, where the protagonist visits a museum on earth. There he finds a small vehicle called a "Titan Rover". In his mind Titans are some giant godlike warmachines, so he is confused and looks for a hardpoint to mount a weapon on it.
Go into a Cracker Barrel and count the things hanging from the rafters that you understand.
We're talking about a hundred years of advancement and most people would have fingers left to spare.
It turns over after 400 years? Damn, that's a good truck!
And no road salt in space.
@@Mike_Costello Must be a Die Hard battery as well
Funny, every Ford my family had died under 50,000 miles. Guess Space preserved it....
@@BOBXFILES2374a Don't drive new ones. I had a 1957 Ford that ran great for YEARS. It was my Grandpa's originally.
@@BOBXFILES2374a Dad's '77 still runs.
Even black Vulcans know what a drive by is. Yall see the way tuvok reacted lol
ahahaaha
Tuvok was obviously from the streets.
@@dracula1980 yeah he was. Straight outta the Forge
RIDING DIRTY
i spit out my water when i read this.
I always wondered why they didn't pick up food supplies on that planet. There were 3 thriving human cities in a modern state of development. The people on that planet should have sent Janeway and company off with enough coffee and steaks to keep them off of Neelix's lousy cooking for quite some time.
I'm sure they did. I still feel screwed out of not seeing the three cities.
Only people had been transported to that planet, not cows nor coffee plants.
Great episode!
Because it would have made to much sense. I also found it funny they didn't turn foods into powder or have other ways of long term storage in a confined space.
I think you underestimate just how much coffee Janeway drinks.
If the distress signal was sent via AM radio from far enough away to justify going there at Warp 6, then they're a very much too late to do any good.
Quickdraw with that phaser, Tuvok.
Lol ha ha
This would be like a bunch of people from modern times bewildered by a chariot.
flashkraft the funniest thing is now not even a century later, many people don’t understand a manual choke or a manual starter. Some people don’t even get what a manual transmission is. It’s as sad as it is funny, though.
Not exactly. I doubt the engineering knowledge of this old car and starships of the 24th century have any overlap. This is closer to a modern robot engineer being bewildered by a 17th century automaton, which seems relatively less strange.
I think the in universe explanation would be that the third world war destroyed many artefacts and records from the 20th century and earlier, so lead to a loss of historical knowledge. It's the same how we have a decent knowledge of the world back to the middle ages to the point where many developments from that time are either still in use (even if significantly updated over time) or can be re-created, yet we have the dark ages where we really don't know much. In a way a lot of sci-fi has our present day society as the "dark ages" of the future. Another issue is the point where technology evolves to become unrecognisable from what came before. An object with a wheel at each corner has been a standard mode of transport for centuries, put seats in and it's for carrying people, a flat area and it's for carrying goods. To a society that's grown up with vehicles that hover or fly, the concept of wheeled vehicles would be as alien as a computer being something with wheels and gears would be to us.
not really, there are plenty of people alive today that don't know how to ride a horse, that is a bettter example
@@FortoFight I'm an electrical engineer. Trust me, we're baffled by tubes at this point. Thinking of that, it's POSSIBLE the tubes could have still functioning with it being in a vacuum, but the battery sure wouldn't have, and the engine wouldn't have started.
Tubes got replaced by transistors not just because transistors were better (and they absolutely are!) but also because they are easier to work with. I had a course in college 30 years ago where we did the mathematics of tubes, and it's far more complicated than transistors. All that stuff is gone now, since barely anything is analog which is interesting because when I was in college, digital audio and video was still new.
The speed of computers today are topping out, but it doesn't matter, because we have really fast computers today. I didn't think we'd be at this point in my lifetime but now a $25 device can do real time decoding of video in high definition. I can send you a film that has high enough quality to be shown on film screen that fits on a $20 SD card.
If you're not old enough, you can't appreciate the raw power we have today. I can literally do nuclear bomb simulation on a $100 phone. It makes a super computer from the 1990's look like a primitive device, and those were liquid cooled. Today, it consumes less than 5 watts.
Damn it now I want to watch the rest of the episode LOL
It was a great one. Season 2
Me too me too I want to watch the rest of it
@@andycooper6085 - it was bizarre; the truck started. As if!
i remember the truck being blue instead of red.. i seen the whole series through a few times... so many episodes over 7 years, voyager is alot to take in... it was necessary for Tom Paris to start the truck in order to get that SOS beacon from the nearby planet. so it was necessary to pollute the cargo bay with them exhaust fumes.. .. basically after this they go to the planet where the other 1937 abductees are held. and they find Amelia Airheart the famous pilot that went missing one day. and no one knows where she went. she was abducted by aliens according to this.
ikr?
Love how Tuvok pulled out his phaser.
And the totally annoyed expression on his face as he put it back in the holster.
It's apparently a device for traversing planetary surfaces at subwarp speeds. The circular appendages on the sides are called 'wheels,' which are caused to rotate by an internal power source. Adhesion between wheels and planetary surface causes the device to be propelled at velocities approaching .00001 % light speed.
And no need to search for those pesky dilithium chyistals
0.00001% is still 6700mph...try adding a few more 0s lol
Thank you, Mister Tuvok!
No seat belt restraints are detected. Evidently no need for inertial dampers.
"What's that?"
"Its an early amplitude modulation receiver. I'm an expert on these old devices. They used to call it an 'IPod.'"
Tuvok's like "We ain't found shit!"
The first time I found out that was really him, my jaw hit the floor.
Be hilarious as part of a gag reel in the voyager show if he said that.
Despite the flaws I LOVED Voyager!
It was a hell of a lot better than Discovery
me too, it was after Roddenberry died but still based on his designs. Another show that I love despite its flaws is Andromeda. Also based on notes by Roddenberry found after his death.
@@KC325
Discovery is amazing. People hate on it for stupid reasons
@@ishmaelm1932 Discovery is Star Trek like Battlestar Galactica is Star Trek.
@@adisharr
I know for a fact that if a star trek show that's exactly like TNG was made today. You fanboys would call it lame. I really believe nostalgia is a factor in your criticisms.
Star trek Picard was pretty stupid. Looking back at it. The whole plot was really dumb and there were plot holes and continuity errors. Discovery tries it's best to remain within storyline. I like it a lot.
I love that they all freak out at the truck backfiring like it's a gun even though they live in a post gun era where there is only energy weapons😂
Voyager I believe does have a projectile weapon specifically designed against the Borg. Can't really adapt to projectile weapons like they can with energy weapons.
They really took some liberties with the truck. I’d expect the engine block to be cracked, water frozen, glass cracked, tires blown.
Nah, the farmer was using good antifreeze, protects to -458 degrees.
It can still run with a cracked block, might explain the plume.
Hell of a battery, mine won't crank after a few months in storage.
Could be a recent temporal anomaly. You know, last week instead of five centuries ago.
Would have been bleached white with the UV too bad enough having red paint on earth after a few years
This scene was as wonderfull as the one in STAR TREK TOS ( A PIECE OF THE ACTION ) when Kirk and Spock tried to figure how to start a car.
That’s a fantastic episode
@@DanielSan1776 Indeed. Probably my favorite TOS episode.
" You are an excellent starship captain but your driving...." Something along those lines,been a while.
@@jimtalor7971 Yes when I first had seen this decades ago I had laughed so loud about this moments after my mother came up asking me what was going up.
"I believe there was something called a clutch."
An outstanding episode in the series, and my favorite scene in the episode. Especially when everyone including Tuvok freaks out when the truck backfires.
Engine backfired. It was hilarious the way the rest of the crew flinched at that.
I am impressed a 1936 Ford even has a radio for interstellar communication.
Voyager gets alot of grief, but they did this modern reaction to an old pickup pretty good.
James T. Kirk preceded Tom Paris in having a fondness for antiques.
wasn't his thing guns, though? not cars?
But by the time it got to Paris time the stuff was even older and more of an antique. Nearly 90 years older.
A shout out should be made for Picard and his love of archeology here, this would have been been right up his alley as well.
Captain, you are an excellent starship commander but as a taxi driver, you leave much to be desired
@@marlettohemmingsen2828 No, that was Sulu that collected firearms.
ROFL, little jumpy aren't we Tuvok?! 😂😂😂
Quite jumpy for a 200-year-old Vulcan.
@@styremcstyre lol
elon musk sent it up when he was 8, for a science project
Funny you mention that, I was reading yesterday that Star Man passed close to Mars recently, and also that the vehicle has likely degraded significantly and in a couple hundred years all that will likely be left is the metal frame. This truck didn't seem to have that problem, depite being over 80 years earlier of a model.
To the Delta Quadrant?
Just a century earlier Kirk and Spock rode a " Fivver" on the episode " A piece of the action". The gangster episode on TOS.
@@michaelsmith4904 They really _don't_ make 'em like they used to!
@@michaelsmith4904 Well, it is made of steel rather than carbon fibre. Though the tyres and seats should have degraded. Not to mention there shouldn't be any gas, oil or water left in it. The wiring should be shot to to outgassing of volatiles from the insulators.
"What is this human emotion you call... key?"
Yeah...all the fluids would have freeze-dried and the paint subliminated and bleached. It was found floating in deep space.
Yeah, the Tesla roadster that went into space is probably going to deteriorate
It would also have been highly radioactive from all the cosmic ray bombardment.
Time also exists in space just as it does on planets so what you meant to say was "all the fluids would eventually freeze and the paint would eventually bleach". Time in action.
@@krashd 1 year later, algorithm'ed.... but that's lacquer paint, it would have crazed and flaked off, but since "space", it would be a primered (perhaps bare metal) truck surrounded by a cloud of little red flecks. Yes, they'd still be red as I'm almost certain the pigment would be cadmium red with no oxygen or CO2 around to react to it.
So, let me get this straight. In 1937, during the Great Depression, a farmer had a pickup truck about a year old.
You’re right. All pickup trucks built in 1937 were placed in storage until farmers could afford them.
The Depression was a "double dip" recession, with the second dip happening in 1938, so 1937 was relatively "good" in terms of the numbers sold. Unfortunately, a fire at the Ford museum destroyed most of the production records, so it may be impossible to know exactly how many were built
They had to be sold to someone. Wasn't like all currency of any kind evaporated and nobody anywhere could purchase anything
@@stev3548 no president Roosevelt only threatened to do so to get the banks open
Considering that pickup was less than $500 brand new, and the fact that farmers gonna farm, it doesn't seem so outlandish.
1. Parris: this was before voice activation. 2. Tuvocks reaction to the back firing.
They certainly don't make TV programs like they used to! Love it.
This would be like a bunch of us trying to figure out some mid 1800s steam engine. We have a basic idea of what it is supposed to do, but we'd be pretty much groping in the dark trying to make it run.
There would probably be a very niche hobby of running old internal combustion engine cars, like some people still run steam locomotives today. But you're right, the average person wouldn't have a clue how to run it. Hell, most 21st century drivers wouldn't be able to start that truck.
Floating in space but the radiator is full of water... LOL!
And the seams weren't split
In Star Wars they'd say, "It's A Trap!"
Tuvok thought he was back in Vulcan hood lol!
I'll tell ya why that truck's in good shape. The owner had the sense to get that Tru Coat! Darn tootin' that's what made the difference.
See, they install that TruCoat at the factory...
This brings up a problem with SETI - what if aliens are trying to communicate with us, but we're not listening to the right frequency?
Maybe that's the problem I have with women, what if If women are listening to a different frequency? Or I'm talking to them on a wrong frequency?
Another problem with SETI; even if you pick up a signal from an alien intelligence, the distances are so vast that they are likely to be dead before you pick it up and you will be dead before their descendants pick up your response.
Zarabada That’s not a problem, that’s a simple fact of life in the universe. The point isn’t to have casual chats with aliens.
There are only so many frequencies that are practical for interstellar communication, and the part where they pick up in AMC eight nomad shipping shop apparently missed is just ridiculous! Any ship as advanced as voyager should be able to simultaneously monitor all he’s at the same time and recognize patterns no matter what Form they take.
That's along the lines of something I've been wondering for a while - it's a fact that our planet broadcasts a LOT of EM radiation - radio stations, tv stations, etc. We (as a planet) have only been doing this for the last 100 or so years. Not only that, but at some point in our future, someone might realize that if there were a malevolent alien race out there, they could use those signals to find planets to conquer, and it might be smarter to find a way to NOT draw attention to ourselves - i.e. stop broadcasting our location to the universe. In my opinion, that might give a very small window (a few hundred years) in order to detect a civilization. If they're less technically advanced than us now, they'd not be broadcasting anything. And if they're more advanced, they might be deliberately not broadcasting anything.
Still one of my favorite episodes. I loved it just for the story. What a great idea this one was.
One of my favorite ST:Voyager episodes.
Thank you for posting this. I’d forgotten about it and I actually was moved by the bittersweet craftsmanship.
So, are the 24th Century explorers familiar enough with the sound of ballistic small-arms fire to mistake the truck's tailpipe for it and react accoringly?
Yes its not like the sound of an explosion will terrify anyone who dosent know where its coming from
I loved how Tom geeked out😂 even more when he knew almost everything that was going to happen lol
It was so funny when he " clapped / rubbed " his hands after opening the engine hood.
It didn't seem that he knew the reason people would do this.
... to clean thier hands from dirt / debris
LOL
1:59 I guess no body knew what an internal combustion engine backfire sounded like. It caused everyone to duck, cover and scatter.
This is one of the more absurd episodes of voyager, and that's saying something, but just about my favorite.
I don't know where or what a key is..... but I know exactly where the choke is and how to use it.
That one was forced. seriously. he describes it like he doesn't understand what the concept of a key is any longer. Like he suddenly lost the understanding of the _concept_ of a key.
It is a fun/wholesome episode don't get me wrong, it is a little forced tho because it has to move the plot.
So it's better to pass over some of the more hardcore sciencecy stuff to just enjoy the episode.
XD. Also "The era _before_ voice command"
OH REALLY WHAT TIPPED YOU OFF?
Because obviously everyone leaves the key in the ignition all the time, even when away from the car
24th century problem
@@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275 back then they might have left the keys in the truck.
I love that everyone took defensive positions when it started up
I work for triple AAA...we gotta start making that kinda battery lololol
Jonathan Harkey you work for AAA AAA AAA?
You mean AAA is going to start carrying quality life long batteries from 1937?
Well we have our standard battery for $55.67 or our super deluxe for $100,017.74 exact change only.
Just remember that YOU are the one that is going to have go jump start it if the aliens leave the lights on over night!!🤣
And oil that doesn’t boil in a hard vacuum and water that doesn’t freeze in deep space and shatter the engine block...
Yes Harry. It's a hover car. Hence the giant rubber WHEELS
i remember watching this episode on a christmas night and i laughed a lot with everyone hiding from the engine noise
This scene in itself was charming, but the frequency with which they kept running into stuff from their side of the Galaxy when they were supposed to be makeing a B line back to frendly territory turned the premise into a farce.
the phrase is "beeline".
@@marlettohemmingsen2828
B line, bee line, schmee line... we all knew what they talking about. It's called taking literary license
Elon Musk's Tesla is out there floating around. Waiting for a future series of ST to run into that.
@@tommypetraglia4688 Momeeline.
I mean they are the first federation vessel on the other side of the galaxy. Of course they are gonna explore a little bit on their way home
"This isn't one of the standard frequencies we monitor. Messages on this channel only travel at the speed of light--too slow for interstellar communications."
--Kim explains why Aliens never picked up Earth signals.
Considering Tom's obsession with the past it would have been cool to see that truck again at some point.
I like the fact that they found a truck in space, but all the gasoline would have boiled off, the cylinders would have seized, and the manure would have been dessicated.
Now THAT is what Startrek was originally about to begin with way in the very beginning - COOOOOOL! 🤔
They should've brought the truck back in future episodes and used it. Tom and Harry putting around on planets just looking for shit would've been sweet.
Can we all take a moment to appreciate that absolute chance defying odds that 70 thousand light years away from earth they come across a vehicle from Earth. I mean OK so for some reason a vehicle was transported far away into Space.. The fact that it happened to be right in their path as they're heading home is just.. well. literally quintillions to 1 when you think about how vast Space is
Whats amazing is, it still had the keys in it.
it was Voyager -- shit writing every episode
@@snagletoothscott3729 And viable fuel, rad fluid and crankcase oil let alone a charged battery ! he he
The gasoline would've expired in like 1940, the radiator would've cracked in half from the water freezing in the vacuum of space, and the Alfalfa, manure and mud would've mostly drifted away from the truck. At best joining the stream of rust they found in space.
LMAO Tuvok pulls a phaser 🤣
Anything can happen in the Delta Quadrant lol
I wonder why they didn't just send everyone home earlier, midway into season 7 for example. It would have been far more fun to see them adapt back to life at home.
AM S.O.S signal: OUT OF BEER!
Whenever in doubt, set a course for 310 mark 215
That's where the signal came from. They determined the direction the signal came from
@@drmayeda1930 If you watch enough Star Trek, you'll find 310 mark 215 is a very commonly scripted heading, whether it's the course to set or a Warbird declocking or etc lol
Tuvok, ready to fight... straight outa vulcan... love it.
Most people today couldn't figure out how to start a vehicle that had a choke, clutch, and dedicated starter.
The funny thing is when he says it's before voice command activation, 28 years after this episode aired we're pretty much there.
vacuum of space would have dried up all the fulids long time ago
not to mention the dust on the car.
It's not real you know 😂
But it's pretty cold in space wouldn't all the liquid related stuff have been frozen
@David Roberts The water was the most volatile liquid. If it had been exposed to a vacuum for more than a few minutes, most of it would have evaporated, and the rest would have been frozen by evaporative cooling. It had to have been dropped in that location just minutes (or better yet, seconds) before Voyager picked it up. It's been a long time, so I don't remember the context of this scene, but I'm fairly certain that it was supposed to have been floating around in space a lot longer than that.
@@jameskuyper the seals and whatnot in the engine and radiator would have stopped most of the leakage. The radiator cap is supposed to be the weakest link in that system, and some of those caps are supposed to hold in 16 PSI. 14 PSI is Earth normal, so the water doesn't boil. It might freeze, but not for a couple of days. The vacuum of space may be cold, but it is a vacuum, the best insulator currently known to man.
"Where is the device that lets you speed or slow the passage of time?"
Lol
If I may say so Captain, this a most interesting episode.
An entertaining but utterly ridiculous episode.
Sums up most of Voyager really. Dumb fun but still dumb. Janeway really made this series
Graveheart what do you expect? It’s science fiction dummy.
@@filthyanimal874 Some science fiction is WAY better than others, just like anything else. Compare Voyager to The Expanse, or even to TNG. There is no contest.
@@Starbat88 All the good writers were over at DS9. The premise of Voyager was sound IMO, the writing and making it episodic in format is what killed it.
@@aaronbays4 Indeed. So many missed opportunities. Even keeping Amelia Earhart around as a regular character after this episode, while somewhat silly, would have given some extra character to the show, would have opened new story possibilities, and would have shown a commitment to allowing the show to change and progress. But no, she's just a one-shot character of no consequence, like so many others.... -_-;
They had an episode where two of the main characters turned into lizards because they went too fast and that truck starting is still the most unrealistic thing that happened this show.
If I'm not mistaken, the title of the episode is Threshold.
One of my favorite episodes!! And I have many when it comes to Voyager...😁😁😁
Great episode I remember it well
The tube radio would take a minute or two to warm up before any sound.
Being a vacuum tube it should not have survived the space environment.
@David Roberts : I'm thinking incorrect David. The key was only on, for maybe 15 seconds at most.
Yea, I know........details, details, details ! 😋😋😋
totally expected to hear Wolfman Jack when he tweaked the tuner
Wolfman Jack was born in 1938,even then,radio waves from his broadcasts starting in the 50's to the 80's would've dissipated long before leaving the alpha quadrant.
@@WarbirdPhoenix ...while neither you or I have visited the alpha quadrant we don't know..let's suspend reality for the sake of a poke at humor
Loved this episode because Tackleberry was in it.
i remember when this episode aired originally and i was glued to it!
I always admired, respected and down right loved Captain Kathryn Janeway.
Without even realizing it she was my ideal example of a Strong Woman of integrity and conviction.
Her gender never mattered to me. It was always her character.
OMG, she was the WORST captain ever
integrity and conviction ?? she broke and obeyed the Prime Directive whenever she felt like it
As much as I've always enjoyed Voyager, I've always had MAJOR issues with this episode, "The 37's". A truck frifting out in space for 400+ years with both water in the radiator, gas in the tank & a charged battery ? The water in the radiaator & the electrolyte in the battery cells would have boiled off immediately in the vacuum of space, (thereby killing the battery), the gas would have vaporized soon after due to the standard fuel tank vent, (or would have gone from gas, to turpentine, to a shellac-like substance in both the tank, the fuel pump & the carburetor). There is no plausible way that this old Ford would have, or could have, been started.
And that's not even taking the massive damage from both solar & stellar debris & micro-meteors, (intact window glass & not one dent or any holes), and all of the loose manure in the truck bed into consideration. This is is screaming for all of us to suspend our disbelief & accept something that literally just COULD NOT HAPPEN.
The liquids would only boil for as long as it would take them to freeze.
Because television is an entertainment source. Superman can't fly and neither can The Flying Nun. Samantha is not a real witch and Mr. T was really a wrestler. And NOBODY really loved Raymond.
You're no fun. Next you'll tell us Santa Claus ain't real.
Must you live so depressingly in the real world?
Really? What's next? You mean Get Smart wasn't really about spies??!
Hogan wasn't really a Hero?
Moonlighting wasn't about sex??!
I'll bet you don't go to a lot of parties, do you?
When they thought they'd be asphyxiated by the exhaust fumes. That's happening Now but we're used to it. 😜
This had to be one of my favorite episodes
Sooo hovercars in 2036. Looking forward to that!
And the hoverboard. They are probably being made by Rockstar. They will get to it after they release GTA VI.
"Ancient distress signal"--I've often thought that Trek and other science fiction stories often use the word "ancient." Morse code goes back to around 1837 and this episode would be set around 2372--535 years later. B'Elanna calling the signal ancient is roughly the equivalent of our calling Christopher Columbus an ancient explorer.
The pace of change of technology has increased dramatically over time, and if that continues, the difference between now and 2372 will be about the same as the difference between 2372 BC and today. Analog radio using Morse code would be ancient to them as communication via knotted cords are to us. They might even view the days before humans left Earth orbit the way we view the days before humans left Africa.
@@brucetucker4847 Fair point. The use and meaning of a word does change over time for reasons such as the one you described.
But morse code still exsisted in TOS. In one of the novels, checkov used it to try and send a message banging on the wall of a turbolift. They called it spacer's code.
Morse code is still in use today.
I might have to watch this episode when I get home from work 😁
It's such a tiny, off-hand remark: They don't monitor radio frequencies for anything useful because it's too slow for interstellar communications. No one who's saying something they'd be concerned about is using radio waves.
Dammit, now I got to watch the episode.
Using enough holodeck time to know things about the truck and how it's supposed to work, but not enough to know exactly where the key is from the very start. At least he's trusting the available sims to be fairly correct. (If I tried to run a real locomotive after playing some steam engine sim, I'd likely blow myself up.)
It's a 1937 Ford, it has doors which pickup trucks prior didn't have from the factory, the Morse code picked up was an SOS although transmitted too slow to be a person transmitting it
Good episode. Another good one ended with Tom's holodeck program, he was working on a classic Camaro.
0:51 "It appears we have found shit."
Excuse me, it's manure. Horse manure. lol 😂
@@styremcstyre Excuse me, it's a reference. a Spaceballs reference. ;)
how tuvok reacted is hilarious
Next, Voyager shoulda come across a world having a renaissance festival LOL!
Coming from a ford family this was the best thing ever 😋😝