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I haven't been watching videos on this channel for very long, but to answer Daniel's question:
I think it's really admirable that you don't show your switches, because that's based on your values. It's your channel, and it's your life, so it's your decision. On the other hand, I've been watching DissociaDID's channel for a while now, and I think it's also admirable that they do show their switches, because it reflects their values. It's their channel, and its their life, so it's their decision. You guys also make those choices for similar reasons: Because you don't want DID/OSDD systems to be seen as weird or 'magical.' I think at the end of the day, both groups of representation are amazing, because they show other DID/OSDD systems that however they feel about their switches is valid. All systems are different, and each alter within each system is different, so it's great to have as many different types of representation as possible.
Yes we also don’t really switch in front of others. It’s kind of a respect as well as a safety thing. Everyone on the outside expects Ben. They don’t know the others. Thought the others deserve their chance to live their lives. We agreed that it’s best that the world sees Ben and he/we live the best life by presenting like him in public. I’m not sure that that makes us “fake” or if that’s unfair to the group. Maybe we are just scared. But for now we express ourselves in the headspace and when the body is alone
i find it interesting to see the differences systems make in what they find acceptable to share, mostly because it has to be a groupe decision ^^
I was gonna leave a comment saying a similar thing but you've just put it far more eloquently than I would have. I totally agree!
I was trying to find a way to say this yesterday
I don't understand why people are so fascinated by switching (it's reassuring to know that systems switch differently so it re-enforces that every system is valid even ours)
Honestly we kind of felt a little concerned (knowing The Entropy System have always said they would never show their switches on camera as they don't even feel comfortable switching in front of everyone in their immediate lives)
Thought maybe they had been pressures into showing, so felt genuine relief to know they hadn't been forced/pressured, i know they get asked alot but they like any other System aren't there to put on a display its about them not what people want
Thank you for putting my thoughts into words we couldn't
TheDukSystem
Katie Koonce 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
“dont lie did you skipped to the point where we switched” me just sitting here watching the entire video honestly forgetting about the switching on camera part lol
Same! I was actually kind of annoyed with the time stamp at the beginning and pointing out the dissociation because it isn't their style and wasn't what I was here for. I was just genuinely interested in the topic of the video.
Congratulations, you passed the test lol
Same lol
Same lmao. I have 2 friends who I often have educated discussions about DID and media. I clicked on this because I was like ooo i can show this to them, genuinely not caring about the switch
Same here!
Good ol' bait and *SWITCH*
Please let this become the top comment 🤣
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Tessa Huchinson
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Hearing Wyn's and Daniel's voice having a conversation was so interesting because, as someone who has watched your channel for a long time, I could really hear the difference in a way I haven't before
As someone with DID, that is how it sounds
Point? Made. Very well done. Also as a gay man (w/o DID), the comparison to being tired of only ever seeing coming out stories in the media hit hard.
I love how you guys did this. It was actually a very good representation of what "switching" looks like. That visual explanation of the person fronting being distressed somehow and someone from the headspace essentially saying "Hey, I'll step in and take over from here for you." and then seeing someone new come into the frame. Sure it's a camera trick, but it seems like such a good visualization for what switching and DID is. Two separate people. One leaves, and another comes in. I don't know if you intended it like that or not, but I think it's really effective for explaining switching/DID in general to someone who may not have a lot of information on the subject.
my thought exactly!!
but DID isn’t two separate people, it’s essentially a fractured personality. It’s still you, just you doing things you don’t remember and exhibiting parts of your personality that only come out in that dissociative state. you don’t get to say “hey Buddy please tag in cause I can’t cope” you dissociate, black out, wake up and have no idea what you’ve done. That is DID. Not the shit you see in movies.
@@fibonaccisequins4637 yes but also no, with time those parts develop into having different traits and such. The parts interact with eachother and the world differently, its not like dissociating and slipping into a headspace, it really is a different part of the mind with a completely separate identity. I for one definitely can and do communicate with my alters to ask, "hey can you do this thing?" or, "I'm overwhelmed, someone else please front," etc.
When Daniel said did you skip, I said quietly to myself “I didn’t tho” lol
It doesn't matter how serious the topic; every time your cat passes by, I audibly go ,"Caaaat." I love you all! And cat!
When Wyn switched to daniel I actually laughed out loud. seeing him walk in from out of frame made my day, thanks y'all
It was a great prank. I was worried when Wyn's discussion was about how capable and control they were, it seemed like her whole point would be undermined if she worked herself into an unwilling switch in the middle of making that point. But when it turned out to be a stunt, it ended up bolstering her argument instead. Very well done.
I've recently been diagnosed with DID. My own mother doesnt like being involved in my life due to it. She has closed off because she thinks I am delusional and crazy. My dad is more understanding. I'm afraid to tell my friends because I dont want to be judged or bombarded with questions about my switches. I respect you guys doing what you do. It's so comforting to know you are working hard to destigmatize this mental disorder. And so inspiring to others. Keep it up. We love you guys!
If they're curious about switches and you're not comfortable answering, maybe you could direct them to DissociaDID's channel. They've done several videos on switching and how to respond to switches.
Our parents refuse to acknowledge our DID, but our friends have been fantastic. We definitely lost a few because of it but for the one's who did stay, it was entirely worth it. We've been able to grow closer to them and feel more comfortable with ourselves.
Try maybe showing them this channel maybe. I got a better idea about what DID actually is from this, and the switch here is a pretty good illustration that helped me understand.
Love the “switch on camera”. Very funny while making an important point :0) Also, I totally get what you mean by the representation you want. I’m dead tired of disabled rep just being inspiration porn or someone learning to deal with their disability. The second is important, Sure, but we have normal lives too!
Being a singlet, I am interested in DID because getting to know DID actually exists radically changed the way I think about consciousness and personality, its origin, how it develops, how it is changeable or not, etc. We could say I am more interested in the philosophical aspect of DID than anything else. For me your channel is perfect because it rather grasps that aspect of the disorder.
@Rita L: Yess there is this “brain in the vat” scenario in Phil classes that I used to think of as sci-fi stuff only. But knowing about DID and how for alters inner and outer worlds are both as vividly perceived now that doesn’t seem all too farfetched.
It also shows how much gender and sexuality and identity in general is socially constructed. As entities of varied species, genders, sexual orientation and other aspects of identity can exist in one body.
I'm honestly thrilled that systems like you AND systems like DissociaDID (who routinely switches on camera) exist. Because I agree with everything you've said, but I also think that it can be really validating for people with DID or OSDD to see someone else switching and have a space where that's normalized. It's just so freakin' frustrating that these two things are pretty much mutually exclusive. This, I believe, is the best compromise - let both representations exist, and exist in the hands of systems who take their representation seriously.
Anyway, well done, really creative idea and I loved watching it. You really found a way to make this message pack a punch. Also, I know you've said before that those videos are tough to make, but I love hearing you discuss media representation of DID - they're some of my absolute favourite videos. I'm grateful that you put in all those hours of watching all that crap LOL
Edit: I just want to say how awesome it is to scroll through the comments and see so many people saying 'you're not obligated to do something you're not comfortable with'.
In one of our first videos we switch. I was starting to feel guilty about leaving it in so thank you for saying this.
I am really confused about me and my identity at this point and have been questioning whether or not I may have osdd or did for a long time, so seeing switches can definitely help me make sense of some of my experiences, but I also fully understand why people may not want to show them and I completely respect that.
@@actualchangeling8365 Agreed. I don't need to see switches, but it HAS helped me immensely to see someone dissociating heavily. I realized that they look exactly the way I sometimes do and I can absolutely identify with what that experience is like. Actually seeing it has helped me realize how bad my dissociation is at times, and cut myself some slack. So I can absolutely understand why seeing a switch may be really validating to people who experience the same thing.
@@kaia8167 yeah, exactly that. i have never seen someone like me before, so learning about dissociation has really helped me a lot
i was going to comment on the video but i saw that you worded it much better :D nice
that was a clever way to showcase switching on camera! we're glad you didn't sacrifice your comfort to make it happen ♥
I watched the whole thing and didn't skip. There's been enough examples of switching to satisfy curiosity. Now it's about learning about your daily lives. So yes. I would say it's been desensationalized
I honestly did not jump ahead, I watched from the beginning like I always do. I totally support people showing only the parts of their life that they are comfortable showing.
“What have we done to desensationalize DID?” Is that even a question? Before finding your guys’ channel a few years ago, I thought DID was a form of schizo or just made up and that people with DID were just confused and unstable (thanks Split). AlexMaxHan’s video was the first time I actually saw of someone with DID talking about what they experienced so I started digging a bit further and found your guys’ channel. It was such an amazing resource not only for the science and reason behind the disorder, but also a personal view into someone’s life with the disorder. You guys are doing amazing work in the world, keep it up!
Hi there! To both you, and anyone reading the comment! Though I do not believe you intentionally came off this way, given how loving and supportive you are of DID, it still comes off (to a degree) that you believe Schizophrenia may fall into that "other" category. The "scary/ cr*zy/fake" category. Lord knows Split did a number on all of us. So if you or anyone wants some clarification on Schizophrenia, I can offer some insight, as I am Schizophrenic! I could offer some understanding :)
Just repeating what everyone has said at this point, but please don’t feel and obligation to show anything you are not comfortable with. I know y’all have said before that this is something you are not comfortable with, so I hope that if you are going this that your comfort level has changed. Stay safe!
As someone with a PhD in the metaphysics of mental health, I care very much about learning about DID. I don't think I ever found it sensational, but I always found it interesting. Your channel and others have helped me learn so much more than my initial research did. To answer your question, I do think you've done an excellent job of showing that you all are normal individuals sharing one body.
My first interraction with DID and more specificaly this channel is with a suggestion after I watched a review of the series Sense8 (which, according to wyn, has many common points with how she sees how DID works)
Like many, I vaguely knew about DID through the media depictions without knowingh what was true and what was pure fantasy. And, to be honest, as I binged many videos of various DID centered channels, I never looked at it with a purely "entertainment seeking" eye, but rather a way to educate myself about unknown and/or stigmatised topics.
Too many see youtube as a purely entertainment focused plateform. I see it more like a wonderfull enlightment tool with so many educational and creative contents of all kind from cooking to mental health, from cinema to engineering...
metaphysical DID? are you sure you want to do that?
When I was younger I always loved magic (I still do) and when talking about DID (or multiple personality disorder as I knew it then) or the concept of it I honestly thought it was completely fictional.
This came from my pop culture understanding of Jeckll and Hyde. I liked the thought that a person could have multiple personalitys and perspectives on life from one well body. As well as the drama that came with the idea. The plot potential etc etc.
Then later in life I studied Jekll and Hyde in school. It was very different and not at all what I thought it was. Its like DID with an inverted colour palette. Instead of multiple people sharing one body, it was one person with multiple different bodys (or forms). And since we were analysing it this was the first time I ever started thinking of that trope. I looked it up and low and behold: something like this was a real thing.
Then one day I began working on a fanfiction about someone with DID. But I had seldom written the first word of the story before I realised: I knew Jack sqatt about the actual disorder. So I looked it up and fell into a rabbit hole.
Somewhere along the line I discovered your videos. It really gave me a whole new perspective on not just the disorder but the trope of "evil bad guy alter".
I still love magic and I still love the concept of an "evil side" but I do understand how... damaging representing DID like that can be. I understand DID alot more in a real and down to earth sense. And I'm very thankful for your videos that explain and show your experience with it. Its helped me better understand how to write a more accurate character that has DID.
I am a bit sad tho. One of my favourite tropes in fiction turned out to not only be rooted in reality but also rooted in horrible stereotypes and fear of the abnormal.
I want to write stories like that because I like the trope. But I don't want to spread misinformation about DID.
I need to start finding a way to seporate the disorder from the trope but I'm not sure that's possible. Because I wouldn't be surprised if the whole "possession of body by another entity" thing was probably directed inspired by DID and some other related disorders like schizophrenia or something. Where's the line? How far can I go? I could try and make it distinctly clear that it is not DID but then what about-
Yknow what? I've got extremely off topic. Back to the point. Thank you for helping me to understand DID from a more personal perspective. I am very grateful that I know what I know.
OMG YES
I FEEL YOU
Some people do think that people with DID are possessed and that is an issue, but there is definitely a difference. You could do a possession thing, but it would end up being very different from DID in order to not be harmful.
I kinda worked backwords from the way you did. I was working with a kind of parasite possession which in most cases does not resemble DID at all, but I have a child that has had a parasote since birth and I realized that I had the opportunity to do some DID represe tation there despite it not being DID at all, which is something I will be clear on. The parasite will be friendly, so it isn't the bad vs good trope that you like, it's going to represent other struggles of a person with DID, but without the trauma, which I figured was probably a good thing so the audience is less likely to be triggered by the content. So just get creative and be respectful. Have one that is very clearly not DID that follows the trope you enjoy and have one that is closer to actual DID and isn't a villain. That will further highlight the difference between the 2 especially coming from the same creator.
Im trying to do a story about a guy who has an alter because of a certain trauma he tried to deal with in his past. But said alter is more serious and a bit rude, but not evil. He's just aside that exists to deal with some serious situations of high stress. But i could get some things wrong though.
I'm looing for more videos about DID to avoid getting into problematic territory, but i would like toy you whaty you think about it
@@ThatOneLadyOverHere we wrote like a page's worth of a story for a creative writing class when we were 11 about something similar: a parasite that can telepathically communicate with the host.
Maybe it was based off of Stargate or animorphs, but it would have been nice to have known about this disorder a little earlier in our life.
I think you guys have definitely succeeded. Like it's not "boring" persay, it's more like your videos are normal updates just like any other TH-camr I enjoy watching. You do educational stuff but you also do fun stuff and it's all really well balanced.
Tbh, I used to love United states of Tara , three faces of eve, etc. But through your channel I've learned so much and view them differently now, not like sources of information but as just normal entertainment?
I know I'm talking a lot sorry but I think you guys have done a fantastic job making this disorder seem as normal and as capable as any other, like depression or anxiety.
I have to agree with everyone else. While it would be interesting to see a switch, it is not necessary. Your boundaries and privacy mean so much more than youtube. No one would be upset if you decided not to show it. I understand that it is an extremely personal thing and could make you feel vulnerable. There are other channels that show this type of thing so you don't have to if you don't want. We all want you to feel safe and protected. Ya'll have really helped me understand systems and neurodiverse people in general so thank you. Stay safe!
Edit: now that I have actually seen the video. The editing was really cool and it was interesting to see a bit of inner communication. Having representation is so important and I hope in the future there will be much more positive and normalizing representation for DID. This was a really cool video!
As someone without DID, this channel definitely de-sensationalizes the disorder, and always provides valuable learning material no matter the topic of the video! 💕❤️ Keep it up, and stay safe!
Entropy System once again being the classiest of class, simultaneously making a point while addressing sensationalism WITHOUT mention of the latest drama in the media. This statement is much, much bigger. This was such a bold move as well and while I understand why you felt like you needed to do it, please keep in mind that you have been working so hard to educate as well as provide coping mechanisms not just for people with DID but also for people who have other issues like anxiety, depression, etc. (I can only speak to ones that I know effect me since your videos have helped me) and that is HUGE. We love you guys. Thank you.
Kelly Ann worded this far better than we could 😃 100% agree. Love to you guys x
For what it’s worth, I didn’t jump ahead! I totally understand and agree with you!
We love you all. Please keep yourself safe. We need you more than the representation.
I have found DID videos that show switches to be very educational and have helped me understand my own mental health. I have never considered viewing someone's switches to be sensational entertainment. I am very grateful that I've gotten to see how others switch, and I believe it can be very helpful for people who don't have DID to see it, to show how real-life switching is not like it's portrayed in media. The more normalized switching is made, the less "taboo, strange or scary" people will think it is. The more people see that those who switch are regular people just like them, and not murderers or people to fear, the sooner the stigma can dissipate. Of course you don't have to share switching videos. You have the power to choose what you share, so only share what you're comfortable with.
no one has ever done that! no one has *ever* done that in the history of DID videos!
just had to meme that, sorry. l don't know if this was really the first time this was done.
edit: jokes aside, this was amazing. blew my mind. creative and elegantly executed. good job! keep on the good work, we love you!
“It’s not that it’s unrealistic, it’s that it’s just not all of the story.”
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A WAY TO PUT THIS IDEA INTO WORDS FOR SO LONG, OH MY GOSH THANK YOU!!! ❤️❤️❤️ -Alex
After a lot of misinformation has been shared lately in the media, I'm grateful I got to know you guys before that. I had no idea the disorder even existed until I found the channel and im glad I get to learn about it from a trustworthy source and what's more people who experience living with it every day!
Take care guys and thank you, you are really making a positive impact. 💙💙
and social media from Multiples themself!
This was fantastic! Thank you for helping folks realize that folks with mental health disorders are still folks that can have functioning lives.
I was enjoying watching Leah watching Wyn’s hands move when she was talking. She was wanting some serious pets! ❤️
Hello. To answer Daniel's question, yes you've helped de-sensationalize DID. Through your system's educational content, livestreams with your friends and family (I've only seen Andrew at this point) it absolutely has changed my perception.
I will be honest. The inital curiosity of the switching, multiple headmates and learning the individual people in a system is what brought me at first. I.e. Seeing the difference between all of you. But I stayed because I see people who dealt with trauma, survived it, have grown and thrived! And I'm here to cheer you on in your fight to break the stigma.
Don't change to match other cause everyone here loves you for you. I like to think internet questions as something that comes from preschoolers. They ask the bluntest questions but never have any ill intent. So for those repeat questions, please pay them no mind.
A lot of people are talking about the thumbnail and I'm a weirdly non-visual person, so the reason I clicked on the notification on my phone immediately (rather than watching it later, though I'm pretty dedicated to the DID youtubers I follow, was because the topic was media representation.
Psychology is an interest of mine so I research a lot of mental health facets of information in my spare time. I found DID youtubers by accident while I was exploring information on dissociation in general.
I'm also a creative person who wants to write or craft something in the future that is useful for mental health advocacy and representation across the board. But I'm a very disorganized and non-linear writer so I let the ideas develop naturally and it relies a lot on the information I take in that's that's why I make a point to be regularly tuned in to the happenings of the community and their struggles as well as consuming alternative media like autobiographies and research papers from clinicians.
I came into this unsure as to whether MPD was a categorized disorder, and the TH-cam rabbit hole allowed me to learn that DID/OSDD was/is and that's what opened this all up. Entropy was the second or third TH-cam system that I discovered and I appreciate their approach to informing everyone. Seeing the different ways any system chooses to communicate compared to other systems has been successful and valuable I think in teaching uninformed people that a system is a network of people just like any other people.
“Switching” on camera through movie magic. 💛💛💛
I thought this representation of switching was really cool because it gave me an idea of what it might be like from the inside. No idea if that’s accurate or not but it was interesting AF.
Also really interesting to hear Daniel verbalize some questions I have (like “how does the inner world work, and why?”) because knowing that even you guys have things you don’t know about it makes it more understandable that there are things I can’t wrap my mind around because I have no context.
I saw the movie “The Three Faces of Eve” as a young child and have been fascinated by DID ever since. I don’t know that I particularly sensationalized it (never believed in murderous alters for instance) but there was definitely a lot I didn’t understand before I started watching videos produced by systems, yours included. One huge advantage of user-generated content!
DID/OSDD has been a weird hyperfixation of mine for years (sometimes adhd be like that). My hs freshman year, I did minimal research and wrote a short story about a girl whose alter was ruining her life. I am so, so ashamed of that. I'm a sophomore in college now, and I've been watching you and other systems for about 2 years, as well as made some friends who are in systems. I'm by no means an expert, but I understand Dissociative Disorders a lot better than I did back then, and do my best to correct misinformation without speaking over your voices. So, rest assured, you'd desensationalized it for at least one person.
The fact that you learned that your previous understanding was wrong and not want to combat that same misinformation in others makes me so happy. Thank you for being an ally
@@TheEntropySystem Thank YOU for being the first channel I found, and also for the reply, I love yall.
Hey! I just wanted to let you know you're not alone in having DID as your hyperfixation, I've been fixated on it since I was around 7! I'm not diagnosed with ADHD or autism (my parents never took me to get a screening) but it feels really nice to see that someone else has this sort of hyperfixation too. For a while now I felt like a total jerk for being interested in a disorder that came from things that're irrevocably awful to live through, but knowing someone else is fixated on it like I am (I'm 22 now and I'm still not out of this fixation, help!), it feels good knowing I'm not the only one like this I guess? Your comment really made my day, so thanks for posting it!
Hmmm... that is a very UN-Entropy System thumbnail. Do we sense a not so hidden meaning? To the best of our knowledge, you've avoided doing this type of thing?
look again ;)
Maybe a subtle parody of a certain blonde goblin :D
Yeah I saw the thumbnail and was really confused
The world is crazy and you know it I thought you guys were referencing me for a minute 😂😂😂😂🤣 “certain blonde goblin”
I thought “goblin” was about Acrylic and Aether... they call their followers goblins / gob squad. Maybe just call her a troll instead?
The first DID video I saw was by DissociaDID about her switching on camera, and after that TH-cam recommended your videos. I think DissociaDID is right that laypeople are more likely to click to see a switch, and then they've interacted with DID a little and are more comfy looking more into it. I think you're right too that sensationalizing isn't that great of representation, and I'm glad DissociaDID (seems to) only sensationalizes thumbnails. I've loved getting to know all of you and the members of the DissociaDID system and you really showed me how complete most alters are and how DID is a coping mechanism. I like how you show your system is living a "full life" and I like how DissociaDID casually switches and I'm glad both systems are doing what they're comfortable with. (Also, I don't see this video as @ing DissociaDID. The DID community seems totally loving for each other and it's been great to see.)
I think my point is, it's been cool to see the teamwork of individual systems, and also how the community works together to share their own stories and perspectives. Thanks for letting us into your life and encouraging such a positive community. :)
I love that they casually switch on camera. It takes so much of the sensationalism away from the act of switching.
Wyn & Daniel. Thank you. I know how difficult this must of been for all of you. I've witnessed my own child switch many times & it's always jarring. Please know that y'all provided me with hope when I had none; when I was terrified about what the future held for my child. Your video on persecutors gave me the tools I needed to help me understand & bond with my child's persecutor parts. When they recognized they were loved and safe, they were able to become protectors. The transformations were amazing. YOU helped me show my child a path forward that led to healing & thriving. I will ALWAYS be grateful. ❤❤
I felt disgustingly smug when Daniel was dressing down the viewer and I had been watching the whole thing 😊😎😤
To answer Daniel's question: Actually, yes - especially this video was really valuable for that insight. As a single personality who wants to be supportive to the community it is a difficult path between de-sensationalizing DID and being understanding towards more sever trauma responses.
This was so well done 😂💜
I kind of knew that something was up but I didn't expect this...
To me - as a person who doesn't have DID nor any irl contact with the disorder - your content is a great representation of a faszinating disorder. I think the cool and exciting thing about DID actually is not the switches and tropes but what the human brain is able to do to keep us safe.
Keep doing what you're doing. I love your channel 💜
You have helped us feel so NORMAL! We use your saying at the end to help us and others through hard times. Love you!
Lakai 🐾
As a new and settling system, your videos have been a true lifesaver through a lot of confusion and fear. So much love,
The Hope System
Xxx
Hats off! I actually almost didn't click on the video because it says "switch on camera". I was worried that after all that was happening you were to some extent pressured to post something like this! I'm so happy that you made this video! I'm so glad I didn't actually skip through! Honestly hats off! And major respect for everything that you're doing and I hope to see more of your videos in the future!! :)!!
I think that’s interesting because we were just feeling pressure to sensationalize our future videos more because our meet the alters vid with a switch on camera got 4k views while our other vids have around 100-300 views. But everyone actually responded very well to the meet the alters video and no one had any comments on our switch. Everyone ended up asking wonderful questions about our inner world and such... but not a lot of people went on to watch our inner world tour. It’s complicated and I’m not sure I understand it.❤️Alexandra
Me: *Fan-girling over our comment getting pinned
😍😍😍😍 Love you, Entropy! ❤️Alexandra
Absolutely you have made it accessible, real, and normal. Your system’s channel was one of the first we came upon, and it has given so much hope. Peace and love. Thanks for all you do.
As a nonDID/OSDD person, I watch for curiosity and education. My curiosity being me wanting to understand. I have watched a few of the other channels dealing with this and enjoy yours the best because it is educational. And it has helped clear up misunderstandings and beliefs because of media. At least with me! So thank you for sharing!
Alright so I’m just going to share what your channel and all the other wonderful systems have taught me: You showed me what the human mind is able to do to survive and you reached my heart so that I want to go out and help people feel safe, valid and accepted!
S R Yeah! Me too ‼️ It turns out that my wife has DID, but just hadn’t been diagnosed until she mentioned watching TH-cam channels about it and our therapist replied that, “It (was) quite possible, even probable.” That blew me away‼️
Hey Entropy System! I saw this thumbnail, and while I definitely support whatever you want to do, please don't feel like you need to do anything you're not okay with for your fans... Given how vocal you all have been about personally switching on camera, this thumbnail got me kinda worried about you all.
Same!
Respect❣️
I have learned sooo much from YOU, Disassociated, 'multiplicity and me' and 'Team Piñata ' about DID.
A Year ago I didn't know anything about it and now, I owe you so much for the knowledge you have given me. Thank you!
Thank you thank you thank you for showing that systems dont have to show switches to be validated. As an OSDD1A system we HATE when we switch, especially our host. We try our best to take a break and switch in a private space. Thank you for sharing this personal story. -Gal
I think this has to do with the spotlight placed on the "novelty" of having alters/dissociation/memory gaps, etc. The truth is it's not this that really holds anyone down, it's what caused this to happen that does...The trauma and subsequent PTSD. It's just harder to deal with PTSD when your memories are so separated by dissociative barriers/parts of self. I would say that for someone that doesn't have DID, it's like having PTSD while being cut into literal pieces of "self" ... Some pieces are children that are emotionally inequipped to deal with the trauma, and others may be adults at varying levels of knowledge of the trauma and ability to handle that knowledge, and then there are pieces that are better than most people out here at dealing with everything because they've had to in order to survive. I personally think the stigma of not meeting up to some perceived level of "normal function" within society is the real issue anyway though. I mean what does that even mean? And why does it matter if someone can't hold down a job for example? Should that really make them "less than" simply because of that? There are people with no mental illness that have troubles holding down a job their whole lives because they just don't like the corporate model of the "9-5, behind the desk, answering to the man" bull. Anyway, to everyone out there struggling: life is too short to sit around worrying what everyone thinks of you.. Do what you need to in order to survive and be the happiest you can and who cares what anyone else thinks or says. They don't know what it's like to be you. Take care everyone☺️
little pieces of self that are also literaly other, their own people. that have nothing to do with what ever we call a person, self, from birth
@@kaiyodei That's exactly what I said... I just prefer to use terminology that focus more on togetherness/similarities rather than separateness/differences....To each their own. I prefer pieces/parts rather than alters/other people, etc.
@@AhsetofAtum that is where it gets confusing for me. some say or belive or educate on what they are. "you can't kill an alter because that would be like killing a part of yourself, and you can't kill parts of yourself"(which is a lie because I think I did, maybe that part of me was dwindling anyway so slaughtering a goldie-looks looking "kid" to get rid of the fact i was still playing with rubber toys up to age 17 while friends 2 or 3 years younger than me outgrew me was really hitting me to hard, like those "oh crap yeah, I'm going to die one day" mixed with 'what is wrong with me? why am I this way? why am I lost in my head like a dumb kid way?" been not the same ever sense.
but then it's "no you don't need your own brain to be a person. you can have full consiousness, without a seperate physical brain, but still need a brain to live in, literal people, not a people who think they are people, like storytelling amnesia"
Seriously though, can we take a moment to recognize the outpouring of support from the community before this even aired? This community is AMAZING!!! /feelz
I think the reason people like to see the “sensational” part of it is because we don’t understand it, and we want to know more about it. We can watch a billion other people talk about their normal lives, but we can’t watch that many people tell us about how they experience the world of DID and how interesting it is. I love watching switches and hearing about how romantic and family relationships work between systems and other people and learning about inner worlds and how integrations and splits and all those other things happen and feel because those are the things we, as non DID-having people can’t experience. I love explaining pregnancy and birth and how it feels to people who’ve never been pregnant because I can share a whole world with them that they don’t know. So I guess for me it’s not sensational, it’s more about learning about something I will never be able to personally experience. It’s gaining knowledge on something that is fascinating and wanting to support the people who are so brave to share their lives and experiences with people. Your feelings are totally valid, and I am here to support you! And yes, I’ve learned so much more about DID through your channel! My favorite video was the one where you described Lito’s integration and how it’s like mixing paint. Totally fascinating how it all works!
Yes!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I LOVE THIS! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you for your educational content and sharing your experiences and view points! 🤍🤍🤍
aaa im trans and i totally get the fustration with representaion in media! its like, yes i struggled but that is not my entire life! people live beyond that. I've found trans youtubers really helpful because they can live authentically and functionally even with dysphoria and im sure your channel is doing the same for people with DID! thank you for your videos
i agree with the other comments. i hope this is clickbait because you dont have to what other creators do in order to be seen as valid or to be recognized on youtube.
I would argue that living a functional life with DID or OSSD-1 *is* the "interesting part". Like, coordinating with a bunch of people inside to work together on tasks, creating a whole ass world inside your mind to meet and interact with these people, delegating roles across an inner and outer world, that all sci-fi as shit! Humans are super adaptable and I find that fascinating. It's really cool to see how people adapt and function with a psychology very different from mine, yet still fundamentally human.
Like I would watch the shit out of an uplifting drama/comedy series about an array of interesting character sharing a brain and making it work while exchanging witty banter with other character both on the outer and inner world. That sounds awesome.
This channel is normalizing my own brand new experience. I just got diagnosed. I wasn't ready. I'm still processing. But your videos are helping me keep calm when I really want to freak out about what to do now. Thank you.
(SPOILER ALERT: don't read my comment unless you've watched the video) absolutely fantastic video! I love the "twist"! thank you, Wyn and Daniel!
I don't think I ever had a sensationalized view (I hadn't even heard of Split until months and months after subscribing to several DID channels, and hadn't heard that stereotype.). I was definitely told some things that were wrong. and absolutely honestly, I searched for channels because I wanted to see the reality, and I was proven right very quickly in the things I thought sounded weird when I first heard of the disorder. ohh, and I absolutely did not skip or come for the switching, I watch all your videos and love all your content!
I hope you're all okay ❤
The same day that I took the DES and was diagnosed with DID I watched your "How didn't I know about my DID" video. When you talked about the singing in your head it was instant that I knew that this was really happening and that I was going to be ok.
Your videos are honest and authentic and give us hope for our future.
I mean, switches are cool and all, but the most interesting thing for me is how y'all interact with each other. How your relationship dynamics change. How you grow as people. Switches are cool to see for the first time or two, but at the end of the day I just wanna see cool people dealing with life they have.
I love all these comment, and I second it - please don't do anything you're not 100% comfortable with! I believe whatever this is, it's not going to be exactly what the tbumbnail says, but I still want to say it. Take care guys!
ive been thinking about if there was a bad a** character with DID on a really cool show such as Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. It’d be interesting if one alter was a witch like sabrina, and another alter was just human and how those two alters could work together in Sabrina’s squad that have both witches and humans who all fight and save the day in their own unique ways. It would be a really cool way to represent all the amazing people with DID without sensationalizing it because they could show all the other conditions that come with DID like fatigue and bad head aches from switches. (I hope nobody found this idea/comment offensive or dumb or something- it truly is all from a good place. please feel free to reply if there is something offensive about it)
It's so interesting that you say this! In our system, we used to have two hosts (alters who are out the most) one was "regular human" and one was a witch. Not like Sabrina of course 😅 but witchcraft was a big part of her religion. It was really like having two lives though, one in college with average people, and one with other witchy people we would do magic with. Like a real life DID Sabrina lol. Anyway I appreciate your comment, it made me happy.
why not a witch+ something? or a fictional interject of a "magic girl" witch? representation matters. and seeing how alters can have varying degrees of skill , knowledge and ablity(that may or may not be 100% amnesia related) it can add to the authenticity
The Prismatic Enigma System i’m happy you liked my comment that’s cool!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Entropy System!! Thank you for making this video. We totally agree with you! Everything Wyn and Daniel said is exactly the same thing we believe! Thank you!!!!
YES. Loved the cleverness and creativity to address this issue. It wasn’t attacking or malicious and it was still impactful. So proud of y’all and inspired by you! Keep up the amazing work!
I suspect this will be satire or commentary on recent events. I recall that you said you won't show your switches on this channel.
expect the unexpected :D
Ok, well played. Nice editing cut and demonstration. You found a nice balance between sensational switches and what happens in reality. Thank you for showing the internal dialogue.
some people: skipping to the switch
others: not skipping to the switch
me: backing up bc i just noticed ur cATs in frame aaaaa
i did not skip to the switch, I'm working on writing characters with DID so i wanted to hear the whole video, but i did skip backwards to 1:22 bc i got distracted by cat scartches
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!!!! Well done. Much appreciated!!! Jessi and a host of co-conners and co-fronters : )
You are not a freak show to keep us entertained.
I love the way you represented the switch, Wyn was having trouble expressing herself, and Daniel stepped up to represent the system , and to support Wyn. You are a team, and if that family member can only see that one incident, then as much as you love them, my daughter (age 9) says it best. “Normal is a setting on a dryer. Get over yourself.”
You've certainly demistified DID for me. I watch your channel, along with a couple of others, to have a better understanding of what it is to live with DID. I also want to better understand how to be a good advocate and ally.
9:15 other than that whole sharing a body thing, they seem really cool! Is what I think... I have no idea what normal is, having never been “normal” myself.
I didn't because I have DID. What you are saying is how I feel. I'm new to knowing I have this disorder. It helps to see others who are like us but display and are different from us.
Thank you for making this video!
Thank you! Wonderful video and good information! Yes, I think you have made me realize what your "normal" can look like, and it is no different than anyone else's "normal."
Entropy System, Do take care of yourself, and if you want us to see a side of yourself you haven't before, that's okay, but make sure when you share with us personal things that you are doing it for the right reasons, and that you'll come away feeling good about yourself in the end.
I loved this video. I think it's important to talk about these things and I felt you handled it in a way that's respectful to the choices other systems make.
Spoiler(? is that weird to say?)
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Using your 'transition' idea seems like an interesting way of explaining different 'types' of switching, if that makes sense? Reaction to a trigger, stepping up to help, an 'intentional' switch. Especially coupled with advice for systems on how to manage each or help with safety ideas. Not necessarily something for you guys to do since it seems maybe it would be more personal than you prefer, but an idea for anyone who might be interested. I know I struggle to explain the different ways we switch because it differs a lot and we tend to need different things around each.
My view of DID has totally progressed. In the past I have been hospitalized with others who are struggling with a new diagnosis or seeing other patients with OSDD or DID. I often bring up you guys and your channel to make the point that there isn't anything they can't conquer. Just like multiplicity and me having a kid and a healthy beautiful family. My fellow patients are always impressed that I have specific examples of people who I know have jobs, a family, and live functional lives. It makes it possible to see a tomorrow even if today seems quite bleak and the path there is unknown.
Thanks so much for giving me an answer to when people ask me the hard "what's next" question. A diagnosis doesn't have to feel like a death sentence.
I want to add that yes, Daniel, I did skip to the dissociation. To watch it happen is to understand ourselves better. It appeals to my reasoning mind that all humans are probably somewhere on a spectrum of losing touch with ourselves sometimes. To see it happen is to become more aware of our own trauma and triggers. I don't wish I had DID, but I do see the ability of our minds to cope. So thank you. It's a reminder that I am "normal" just as you are.
Whaaaaat???!!!!😳👀💫💦 this is gona be exciting💣💥...
... we are actually wondering if we want to watch it at all😅🤦🏼♀️
The timing is funny, too, because we are about to tell everyone in our upcoming Video, that we learned from one of our favorit TH-camrs, that it is absolutly not necessary to switch on camera☝🏼😂 (meaning you guys)
We allways thought it's unconfortable for you to show it...👀
But, go for it girls and boys!💪🏼 thanks for your trust🧡
Are you sure she's gonna do it though? 🙄
@@missundies hahaha😅 your right, haven't thought about that...👍🏼
There's a questionmark...🧐☝🏼 hmm🤔
They're so smart, if this is just a teaser😅😂 very fitting...
I don't know if she will be switching, but we can't imagine that she's gonna...🤷🏼♀️ if she does though, it wouldn't bother us too much, but they don't have to show us their switches at all🤷🏼♀️... It's just not there thing... and that's fine!
are we gonna be clickbaited? lol. but seriously, you don’t have to show anything you’re not comfortable with for any reason.
WE WERE
The switch part was supposed to be Daniel's voiceover, I guess, so I wouldn't exactly call that clickbait.
I mean they did switch, just not how we were expecting haha
Leaf [Nightcore & AMV] It was a fake switch, it was clickbait.
I loved the way you did the “switch”. It was very respectful and loving between Wynn and Daniel, and showed the system aspect of it. I also respect that you have set a boundary about switching, and put your system first.
Wow what a powerful message! I never come by for the sensation, I don't thrive on seeing switches. Wyn is such an engaging storyteller, I wouldn't skip that ❤️
I respect Wyn and her judgment, but I'm worried that this will be a critique of how other DID channels handle their video titles and title cards. 'Clickbait' channels are what drew me into improving my own mental health. And maybe they do more harm than good, but I feel like this is not the time, or the forum, to address it. The community is hurt and being attacked from the outside. We need to support each other on journey we're going through together, present a unified front, and then we can discuss the internal differences of opinion and different ways of walking that path.
So I'm pretty sure I'm wrong and being concerned about nothing. If anyone can make a suggestion to reassure me I would welcome that. Wyn, if you're reading this, please understand my concern is not personal. I trust you. And please, as everyone else is saying, don't do something you're uncomfortable with, or that will not benefit your system, just for us. We need to see you look after yourself first
I would love to hear your opinion now
Hey Miss L, imo I don’t think she criticizes channel who do switch on camera. I think it’s a personal choice for each system. Just like some systems decide to not share anything about their Littles. I think Wyn and Daniel made some valid points in this video, about trying to normalize it. I don’t think they we‘re attacking anybody just giving their own personal opinion on the topic and I do agree, even tho I was drawn in by the idea of the switching and the perceived „weirdness“ of it. Tho i have been well educated by people like Wyn, Team Piniata and DissasosiaDID.
@@sabiner.8395 That's good to know. I look forward to having the time and mental space to watch the video
@@sabiner.8395 excuse me, but it's "Pinata" and "DissociaDID". you're welcome.
Yes, DissociaDID argue the same. Jade once put in a video, she said that they often heard people that 'came for the clickbait and stayed for Nin and got educated'. Also, if you look at for example VLOGs from Piñata and DissociaDID, they do struggle. Just going to the mall can be a hassle for them
And this also deserves their representation. I think it is like every human thing. DID is not equal to DID. And I enjoy Entropy's video style as much as Pinata's. And srsly, the switches are not that exciting, when Nin writes 'X switches' in the title, I am more excited to have a video with several alters than for the actual switch. (it's TH-cam man, one likes the personality of the creator(s). Like, one reason I like DID channels are the personalities of the alters, I just genuinely like them.)
At this point I really hope she doesn’t switch on camera because I have come to respect her system’s choice not to switch on camera.
So you would respect her less if she did switch on camera?
No. I just meant I don’t have a curiosity to see it anymore.
Of course I’ll respect whatever decisions she and her system make.
This video was great because DID should not be sensationalized but instead understood and respected like other mental and physical disorders. I haven't watched many of your videos yet as I was just introduced from DissociaDID and TeamPinata, but I can tell you what I have learned is a lot and I am looking forward to watching your videos to learn even more. Just like other disorders, I feel like DID and OSDD can range in the functionality of the body. Such as holding a job, keeping friends and taking care of themselves. What I found most interesting is that DID is much more common than a lot of people think. I find the DID community to be one full of love and support and that makes me really happy. I wish some of these videos were part of our general education because they are so important. Thank you Entropy System for sharing this video.
You are so amazing, admired, and awesome. I feel honoured to be a part of your life. Thank you for sharing.
I became informed about DID when a woman came on Oprah named Trudy ??? and wrote a book called When Rabbit Howls so many years ago. One of those books you never forget once you read it. Now all these years later I get to watch what an interesting, mysterious, amazing and beautiful way you share and explain that I have only 5 star ratings on all you do. I would think like Daniel when he says "how did I get here and why is my name Daniel?" if I were a DID. Thank you for making me a better and much more understanding and informed person amongst a realm of so many stories each of us carries.
Hello Daniel. I have a friend with DID which means I have 4 friends in one body :D I'm watching you to extend my experience. Thank you for your courage in working against the stigma. Be well, P
That's exactly how I see you, several different but normal and functional people living in the same body and exhibiting great teamwork.
You have no idea how much your practical, down to earth, educational videos have helped me. I am forever grateful.
I do feel like your channel has desensitized my view of DID a lot. Thanks!
I never knew much about DID until running across this channel a few months back. I've learned so much and love learning more and more. Thanks for sharing so much information and all your thoughts about everything.
we definitely get not wanting to switch in front of people. It makes most of us uncomfortable as well, and we try to avoid it when we can.
Thanks for this video. This needs to be talked about. Way too many channels, two in particular, sensationalize and glamorize DID to the point that DID has become "trendy" This does a disservice to the community to the point that it is becoming toxic.
Happy to say I did not skip to the switch. I was interested in what you had to say. Thank you for what you’re doing for your community. I may not be someone with DID but I support you and other who do have it. You have a right to be represented accurately.
your channel was the first encounter I had with DID and I can definitely say there is no stigma or sensationalization here. Thank you guys for being a source for people to find understanding about others. You all are amazing and I love you guys.
Not gonna lie, we LOVE this video. We were really functional throughout a lot of our life and I now get a lot of denial because "we had to struggle with this before right?". No we didn't. And we don't have to keep struggling and we'll get to a point where we won't struggle anymore, at least way not as much as now. And I wanna thank you so much for showing this, for making people realise that constant struggling isn't what makes DID DID. Thank you. ~Tyler
This channel helped me understand DID more. It just helped me reconize that I might be a possible system and bring my possible alter up with my therapist. I believe if I didn't have this resourse things would be so much more difficult so I just want to thank all of you.
He has so much passion. Seen him chill in other videos but his head mates were right about him being emotional. His emotion in regards to this issue empathised how important this is and helped him get his point across honesty and effectively.