Fisker Ocean Hyper Extreme Edition One review - Needs software updates but otherwise a decent EV.
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- One TH-camr labelled the Fisker Ocean as “The worst car they’ve ever reviewed”. Is it really that bad?
Well it’s not all perfect for sure, but actually nearly all its downsides are software related so could actually be fixed and updated to sort them out. The car itself I think is actually rather good. this family size electric vehicle drives nicely, has a huge battery, some interesting features and nice design details.
It’s a big shame they seem to have released it before the software is really completed, tested and ironed out. It means all early reviews are often negative and no doubt this is ultimately part of Fiskers downfall. A shame, could be a good car. I just hope they get funding and finish the job!
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187 mile range at 52% isn't too shabby. Really fancied a Fisker. Hope they pull through.
About average considering the size.
Not really though… the battery pack is massive. The motors must be really inefficient
113 kw battery, it had better have a decent range.
They just died 🪦🪦
Great review! I received my Fisker ocean ultra last month and absolutely love driving it every day!
oof talk about making bad life decisions.
Someone actually bought one? 🤨
@user-jq4sp6hv9k sticker says $60,556, I paid $31,056. Car rides tits….
@@laloajuria4678 here it is late July, 2400 miles later and the car is the balls! Back and forth to the beach and Saratoga Springs NY and drives like a spaceship!
I wish this review came out months ago. Love my Ultra
As you mentioned, a great buy for an established ICE maker. Platform developed and ready to go with a new badge! I like the look and the quality looks good. Software can be fixed
I think it makes sense for any automaker that hasn't made any serious investment into EV tech yet, maybe Mazda or Toyota who are just making a superficial effort currently or perhaps a niche manufacturer, like Ferrari maybe, who needs an EV model to bring down their fleet average C02 and prepare for the eventual ICE ban.
Toyota. But they would have to accept that hydrogen has been a complete mistake - and that would probably require replacing the CEO and rest of the board.
@@SteveLoughran a good point on the CEO, given his apparent anti EV stance I doubt he'd allow such a deal to go through
“I think it has great potential”. That’s not what I want to hear when I’m trying to consider spending a substantial amount of money on a new car!
I bought it mid (extreme)July for 25,000$. It had 1500 miles & the 2.1 update. I have had zero issues with it. The infotainment is a little laggy but I love the car. By far the beat vehicles I have had.
One of the best reviews I've seen of this car.
For me it needed a HUD but apart from that it's a car I really like the look and design of.
What a shame the company is struggling and when you dig into the reasons so avoidable.. very sad.
Spare a thought for the early adoptors who paid full price..!!.
Gorgeous car with some really cool features. 🍺
There were 20+ 24 plate Fisker Oceans going through BCA last week . 10 miles, yes , 10 miles , Vat Qualifying , £16k after VAT 😮 . A new Fisker for £16k. Ultras were £26k inc vat
I personally really like this car. If I was looking for a brand-new car, I would seriously consider this. I wish them all the best.
Fisker One was £60,880 in UK. And Porsche Macan 4 EV starts at £69,800.
I will pay £10-15k more for a Porsche any time, as you get a far better car in many ways!
I sat in Fisker One and agree with Richard, there is no wow feeling. I must admit the design is beautiful.
@@harmony3138 the most expensive Fisker was £60,000. Starting price £36,000
@@MobilAvenue_
As I said paying premium of £10-15k for a premium car is worth it.
Fisker is anything but premium and has multiple issues, and not just software.
Ride and handling, the feel and precision of the steering wheel, nimbleness in corners, NVH control (noise and vibration levels), interior and exterior quality are all pieces that make up a good car. And Porsche has it all.
@@harmony3138 but most Porsches are driven by utter twats
Just don't buy yet cauee the prices are plummeting. Maybe they might go back up.
Beautiful car. They'll survive. I'm positive. Waiting to buy an Extreme soon.
While I do think MKBHD was willfully negative about this vehicle (almost as though he had an agenda?), he did have some valid points. This seems a more balanced review, but as others have pointed out, they are in a very precarious position financially. While I do like the styling and it's very much it's own thing, I think it's a very brave buyer who gets one.
Why would he be willfully negative? All his complaints were quite clearly showcased in his initial video.
You really need to look at Fisker. They are broke and no one will buy them out as the have nothing to sell.
Fisker is toast.
Loads of new buyers trying to sell them to get some money back.
Im about to chuck another £5k into fisker stock after this review 💷🌊🇺🇸💪
Your mistake.
@@matthewspry4217 went well then? Now shares less than 0.5 cent ?
If one can figure way to secured basic safety and future software support, say for next 3 years, huge bargain given recent price cuts! Almost 40% off last announced
Richard, you forgot the mention the under seats storage. It’s in stead of glove compartment basically.
Fisker has just filed for bankruptcy, thoughts and prayers to anyone who bought one of these, I tried to warn you.
Yep, while the actual vehicle is a lot of car for the money as a new car, they're effectively worthless once a single problem happens. Companies won't accept them as trade ins, webuyanycar offers £150 for them, and I'm fairly sure insurance is an issue
These were high on my list when i saw the concepts and the initial test cars.. shame about the software. Henrik, just partner with Google and get them to do it..... rest of the car seems really good!
What do insurance companies think of this car?
Honestly though, is there any chance you'd get this car vs its competitors at this price?
Really do hope it makes it - hopefully some big manufacturer will buy them for a quick way in to BEV
Being a university student in Hawaii who has to commute to work by bus, California mode sounds like it would fit right in here and be a nice addition on the way to and from work and school
Thanks for the review Richard, Someone got a bargain here. I like this car from what I see in your review.
Hi Richard, do you mind me asking what the headlights were like at night? I know you said they weren't adaptive or matrix but do they do a good job? and are you expecting to get any more model One's into stock?
Two new versions of software have been cleared and are about to released. This could include adaptive cruise control
Is the software as bad as the ID3 when that was released?
Nowhere near but the hate this car got was injust
Should I buy one for my son first car as they are extremely cheap in my area at the local dealership they have these and brand new it's 60% mark down and under 30 thousand??? I do not want him driving my lucid sapphire or should I buy him a Hyundai ionic n
Son's first car? Buy him a focus. Let him earn his way into a nice car
@@danpaul4975 I ended up getting him a used supra .
@danpaul4975 I ended up buying him a used 2021 supra ? And my kids are working and saving money to buy a home so I made a deal with both my kids that I would help them with everyday needs as long as they put away 80 % of their wages away and my wife checks it monthly, a car is a need so they can get to work and school .
Life story wasn't necessary
@danpaul4975 sorry
very nice looking car- hope someone saves it ,specs sound good too
Well said Rich,cheers guys 👍
This is the car I wanted to buy. BUT that was 3 years ago when the prototype was announced. Great features.
Why didn’t they get google operating software rather than design their own. He does design not building and software. He outsourced building and would have been smarter doing the same with software.
It’s a brilliant car, a crying shame they’ve stopped making it. It should be rescued by someone like Landrover as you suggested, they badly need an electric car just like this. Let’s hope someone saves the Fisker Ocean.
Huge potential but right from the beginning I simply could not understand how Fisker could do these cars for the relatively low purchase prices asked. Nicely styled, HUGE batteries and full of kit and made by a 3rd party company (who contrary to popular belief do not have a stellar reputation for building cars,). So should have been pretty expensive. Fisker has a terrible reputation for making a success of his car companies and I know it is difficult, but he seems like a dreamer, and not a business man. And so I think it proves with this car. A very very competitive EV market year on year. The market will have no time for EVs with dodgy software and no back up support.
Sold 44 in the UK in May,not many but out sold Alpine, Maserati,ineos and Ds!🤣👍
now bankrupt - AGAIN
Good positive balanced review, it seems like a bargain if you are willing to take a risk. It would be a real shame if Fisker did not continue with Ocean production. I hope they find a partner soon. Software V2.1 is being pushed out now which has been getting great reviews, a lot of the niggles have been fixed. Hopefully V3-V4 with ADAS systems will follow soon.
Are you still getting software updates ?
With such a huge frontal area not having any storage is just bad design/packaging.
I hope they get all the bugs fixed and make it through their financial crisis. I wouldn’t mind having one. The looks are great.
Have you actually read up on what has happened to Fisker?
I do hope Fisker manage to keep going. It is tough against all the lies and propaganda and trying to let more people know about it being mis information.
Lies? What lies?
It's already bankrupt and Henrik already made his hundreds of millions for the second time. The production line has already been mothballed
@@Emaratilfy Serious, when you are watching an EV channel?? The news that keeps telling us EV's burst into flames and need new batteries every few years. That you can't do long trips,they cause potholes there are no EV chargers etc. Plenty more.
@@Jaw0lf Are you serious? The Ocean's problem is that it's a half-cooked car.
@@Emaratilfy The car itself is apparently good, but let down by quirky software. We need them to survive to fix this. Wether that is under new ownership , but the concept is fine.More choice for consumers is always a great thing.
You won't find California Mode on UK cars. It's called Baltic Mode. 😂
actually a nice looking EV
My understanding is that if the rear doggie windows don't go down, it'll need to have a Fisker tech out to update the SW.
Real issue was Mrs Fisker's micro management!
She also made too many technical component decisions based on cost, against the advice of engineering team. That may come to bite in the future.
Shame it had potential.
I am surprised anyone is buying knowing how likely this will be uninsurable / unmaintainable / unsupportable. Its like burning cash.
Too many major issues from Remote to Phantom drain and not mentioning last ever software will be 2.1. Intellectual Property belong the finance companies who bailed it out when it last ran out money.
Richard I also think its unethical to sell the car as the company is going through bankruptcy.
Some company has to save this car, good mileage and look good, problem is if someone does the price would double .
they went bankrupt already though so is it still worth getting an ocean without any parts, warranty or software? you say the lidar does not at yet also which is not good.... i know they are cheaper if you can find one, but is it worth taking the risk?
dont think fisker inc can be saved , badly managed along with other poor decisions , but think a bigger company might take the car up a level , ( if a deal with the asset holders of the company will do a firesale exit) by putting their stamp on it by rebranding ,rebadging and more importantly offer current fisker owners new and a more intelligent or different software but probably at a high price , they may warranty the new software for 1 year, but 0 warranty on all other fisker parts internal or external . Cant remember if the Austrian factory holds ownership rights of the Oceons platform ?. Also is the battery pack fiskers or did it have the warrantee backing of battery producer ?
financial difficulty is an understatement! 🤣🤣😂😂
This company is going into receivership. I believe one was written off because a door was damaged and couldn't be replaced. So is it really worth buying?
Do not buy until July. Then make your decision. Be patient, don’t get caught in a financial pit like I did.
@user-jq4sp6hv9kJust checking my calendar.... Yep.... That's when July is 👍
why? whats the story, why wait?
@user-jq4sp6hv9kYea i know that they filled for chapter 11 Bankruptcy, that was the genius of Henrik, but “buy in july” makes no sense 😂
Why July?
If I had £28k knocking around, I’d take the risk. So much car for the money!
Aston Martin vantage … proceeds to show a DB9
The trouble Rich is that Fisker are on the verge of going under again, as you say, so who is going to do the software problems?
That's the question. No one will. For me this car would only be useful running the promised software 4.0 with all the ADAS features. Like this, it's just a very expensive and heavy paperweight...
There are more practical issues than software and promised features, how do you replace the windshield,if a small stone ruins it. What if you break your key, where will you find a replacement? Aliexpress?
According to TopGear, version 3.0 and 4.0 has already been developed, and is currently going through testing.
@@user-cofee the vast majority of parts won't be made by Fisker they'll be outsourced, the few bits that are (body panels, trim pieces and the like) will be easy enough for a good manufacturer to duplicate.
Software is far more concerning, especially in an EV -as an example imagine if the CCS standard gets some kind of update that means all manufacturers have to release an update so you can continue charging - with a Fisker there would be noone to do that and you'd lose the ability to rapid charge.
Software is so critical to EVs that owning one that has no ongoing support is a ticking timebomb.
You'd hope Fisker would arrange for another company to take over the software should they go under but it's a big gamble if you are buying one and even if that does happen you'll likely have to pay to get updates.
@@JetsetDruid there are 10000 oceans in the world. There is no critical mass for any 3rd party to jump in. By comparison, Hyunda makes 200000 konas.... per year.
Any 3rd party parts will have Ferrari prices.
You sit are a brave man. Good luck
I've seen a few for sale for around £27k (ex press by the looks of it as all have LJ numberplates), wonder if I should risk buying one. Has to be a long range one though!
Awesome review!
LOOK AT THIS WHITE TESLA IN THE BACK LOOKING SO SAD LOL > GO FISKER
MODEL Y screams I'm middle aged and given up on life 😂😂
Look at that a bar shaped Tesla behind! :) Fisker is a puma! so cool!
Looks like a bmw iX and i3 had a baby from the rear view.
Approx 7,000 Award winning Ocean Suv EVs on the roads globally with zero Recalls. FSRN..Up 72 % week and 51 % month. Now 27 global dealerships and rapidly growing. Near $ 500 million in Ocean revenue. Thumbs Up video/ comments. Thanks.
And they have withdrawn roadside assistance and dropped the UK price by £15,000 BUT with a condition stating
“Buyers must expect a permanent loss of the enforceability of claims for material defects and warranty claims”, the company warns. “By concluding a vehicle purchase contract after April 5, 2024, the buyer of a Fisker Ocean declares that he has been informed accordingly and nevertheless wishes to purchase a Fisker Ocean in view of the risk described.”
Why would anyone buy one now?
Cheers guys
Slap a range rover badge on it and you'd never know it wasnt
Similar depreciation too 😂
Needs to be almost free. company gone bust. Parts availability is going to be interesting
What are insurance quotes like?
When there is no supply of body parts/glass/lights then a minor prang is going to write these off.
If you want a real laugh try wbac....
MKVBVBVMDMK is a brain washed apple fan boy (don't listen to him). Fisker is an amazing car. Did someone say Solar regeneration ?
MKBHD should stick to reviewing iPads.
That is my old car. I loved it but I think you missed a few more issues that I could tell you about!!
It already looks like a BMW, they should buy it and just rebadge it.
Are you saying part of the software problems is with the indicators?
The sad thing is that the anti EV mob will run and run with this if/when it fails
Why would you buy a car from a company going out of business. There is about a 1% chance it'll survive any more than 3 more years, where are you going to get parts from, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
People have been saying they’ve been going out of business for the last few years 😂
People said the same about Tesla too
How much per.comment?
At right pricw, people buy crap as well. These are selling as we speak, so people are finding value
Still in biz for now
Software would be a far bigger concern than parts, the majority of the parts are likely made by third parties who can continue to supply even if Fisker go under, the parts that are made by Fisker can probably be patterned and duplicated by third party manufacturers.
Software on the other hand is likely to be in house and closed source (meaning there is no way of anyone continuing to release bug fixes / improvements)
RIP. FISKER
This is perhaps the best looking ev there is in a maret ful of ugly space ships
I hope Fisker Ocean gets an investor like Lucid to keep it afloat while the company grows and software matures.
“Buyers must expect a permanent loss of the enforceability of claims for material defects and warranty claims”, the company warns. “By concluding a vehicle purchase contract after April 5, 2024, the buyer of a Fisker Ocean declares that he has been informed accordingly and nevertheless wishes to purchase a Fisker Ocean in view of the risk described.”
Not ending well as of 18/07/2024…..😢
software issues - oh just like VW then...
Evening guys
Evening.
And when you want to buy one, youll check to see how many of the 500 launces you have left to use. 😆 🤣
It baffles me how many people are so concerned about the launch counter.
If you do one launch a week, it will take you 10 years to get to maximum launches.
And you really didn't need it. Fun mode is plenty fast, and Hyper mode is brutally fast.😊
Actually, per Fisker, they will examine the drivetrain to make sure it's sound and reset it. 564 hp with 514 lb-ft of instant torque is a lot....
Exactly.
What's the point. The company is going out of business and you can't get any parts for any kind of repair.
Why would ANYONE even look at a Fisker when it's second-hand value (on we buy ANY car) is £0... As even they won't buy it!
Other than zero warranty, bankrupt company, dreadful software... Its got so much going for it..!!
Why would you even think about a Chapter 11 car?
No service, no parts, no warranty and on the top the cars was sold for 1/2 price due the investor in milking the company. An insurance company in the US totaled a car due a dent in the front door -
I was going to buy one. But no dealer near me. Then i seen the bad reviews video.
It could be a great car, but as in all electric cars being software driven. There does not seem to be much support for the ailing company, so future updates will not follow unfortunately, unless they have some sort of turnaround. Shame😢
I've heard comments that should Fisker go bankrupt, Land Rover should buy the rights for the design.
Richard why are you so nice about this car
He's trying to sell his own 😅
May be he just liked it? Nothing wrong with that as long as he says what he actually thinks about it.
Car already sold. I said that in video especially for sceptics like you @user-coffee … so therefor had no influence on if I think good or bad.
And as I said in video it’s actually a good car which drives nicely.
@eganeles Thank you and yes it has to be real
Fisker production is stopped permanently and workers involved in this project were all sent home according to Magnas earning report.
On hold for this year may restart end of 2024
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HUGE NEWS TATA WILL MARKET THE FISKER OCEAN IN INDIA BY FOURTH QAURTER OF 2024 !!!!!!!!
Whilst I dont always agree with MKBHD's car takes, it would be unfair to dismiss his point of view because he's a tech reviewer. More and more tech recently is being released with "features coming soon" (especially with AI products). That is poor for consumers and terrible for people buying cars, as Mr Mobile says, you should never buy something based on future promises.
Even applies to Tesla's but they have a track record of delivering.
NEVER EVER TOUCH A FISKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if they had left the launch for 6 months and modified the software but would not have been in trouble. However they were desperate for some cash coming in and reviews crippled them. The car looks so nice compared to others in the same class but buy this and your car needs fixing they may not be around and it is a computer on wheels.
Aren’t fisker going bust?
Not yet. Hopefully won't.
Good product needs advance tech like lucid motors or german cars. Hope they pull out of bankruptcy start producing cars pre orders.
Richard what's the point of all this rehabbing when the teslas are there, ready and cheap
Strange reviewing a car from a dead company 🤷
They don’t just have ”financial difficulties”
The TH-camr whose expertise are technology related, like smartphones. He has no clue about cars, he needs to stay home and play his video games 😂
Did you see the size of the screen in the car? This is a smartphone on wheels. The unnamed TH-camr is precisely the good expert to review this car.
The Tesla felt EXACTLY like driving an iPad inside a box - with overpriced interior materials.
Oddly, he never truly showed the car in real driving mode - just in the parking lot? That itself is a subpar “car” review.
The handling and feel is great. Software is shit
Otherwise their bloody bankrupt….what the hell
Come on, how can you call this car decent if it has a launch counter?
You realise that a LOT of cars have a ‘launch’ counter, right? This isn’t a new thing and a lot of manufacturers will void the warranty if they know you’ve been launching it. Always read the small print!
It's a boost mode counter, not a launch counter. Per Fisker, they will examine the drivetrain to make sure it's sound and reset it. 564 hp with 514 lb-ft of instant torque is a lot....
Fisker prepares for bankruptcy
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And? You can still say its a good or bad car
Why should I believe a Tesla fan boy ?? I'll believe it only if announced by Fisker.
@@Perseverance21385 because bankruptcy filings are a slow burn until filed. The legal wording, finances and similar take time to come up with. Without a major cash injection Fisker is done. Lucid has a cushion from investors and an SUV that will sell well coming out. Rivian while still bit rocky is looking the best of the rest. Henrik Fisker is a conman
A decent SUV? LOL
The company is on the verge of bankruptcy. Meaning updates to this unfinished concoction, future service, and parts will be impossible.
In the US, Oceans which sold for $60K are now priced at $25K or so just to move remaining inventory. Edmunds has story of a $69K Ocean with 4,220 miles now worth $21K on the used car market.
A person would have to be a complete imbecile to buy one of these things.
Fisker are very funked
0:01 its a bankrupt car...
Software looks like it was made by an intern in about two days. Horrible design and UX. Look at those transition animations between the different screens (or complete look thereof). When he enlarges the nav the bottom third of the screen goes black even though it's in the light theme. Glitchy as hell! And no efficiency readout?! Laughable.
Fisker will not last due to potential bankruptcy
Will it go to bankruptcy recently? Stock price drops a lot from the end of 2023 around $6, just 5 months past, now is around $0.06, it’s unbelievable 😢😢😢