Some of our FP members have provided us with a couple workarounds for some of these and we wanted to address the certificate expiry. This does help protect against malware, but it shouldn't expire. You can use a registry edit to disable online search if you're comfortable doing so. You can still make offline accounts by removing your internet connection after you reach the account creation page, go back and open that page again, then once it's created reconnect your internet. Another alternative is to type in only one letter when asked for your email and password, apparently the setup will prompt you that something went wrong and you'll then be able to make an offline account.
It drives me absolutely insane that Window's start menu search uses web results. If I WANTED to search the web, I would've opened a browser. I hate this feature with a passion in windows 10.
It's like two different sections of the company working against each other. TRY EDGE YOU MAY LIKE IT! NO DONT LISTEN TO THEM, USE THE NEW SEARCH BAR WITH BING RESULTS!
You know what was great? Vista had the option to show you your local files, and then web results if you wanted! I don't know why Microsoft insists on making every version worse than the last.
Microsh*t is satan worshipper. So they always insist and persuade their crappy ideas and their products, apps upon us. Forcing edge browser, hard to make our desired apps default, are not acceptable and it's not fair. Governments should cripple MS for forcing childish things upon us. I hope third party like stardock will give us their software for patching w11, and we will get reg hacks to position taskbar and context menu on the internet for upcoming years. MS showed their satanic face in Windows 10 already, which is, if you associate media files from inside your favorite media player then that media player won't become default, but on Windows 7 it worked perfectly. Same goes for all file types.
My main issue is the lack of customization. You can barely customize the start menu, can't change the start menu, can't remove the recommended section, can't move the taskbar, can't resize taskbar icons and the new ricght click menu is horrible. I've been using W11 for a few months now since the early dev channel days and literally nothing has changed or improved since then. The sad thing is that all of that can be fixed instantly with third party software like start11, but that really shouldn't even be required and that all of it worked perfectly fine in W10.
My suspicion is that Microsoft prioritises Web results on Search to give them extra hits for Microsoft Bing. They don't want to give you the option to change the priority because it could slightly reduce Bing's market share. It's for the benefit of Microsoft, not the user.
Same reason Chrome starts becoming unusable with more than 20-30 tabs and their browsing history is garbage: they want you to google the same stuff again and again.
@@JanLe82 am not defending google in any way, but my guy, who tf needs 30 tabs? Even my sister can't open this many when she is working, and sure, there are browsers with better efficiency with their tabs, but those are 30 tabs, wtf. And when it comes to googling, isn't it up to you what you need to search up? The browsing history exists so you can backtrack and check the website you visited again.
Idk why they even want or need to push bing so much. Feel like they'd be better suited to improving products in the market they are already the leader in, rather than trying the impossible task of stealing enough of a portion of googles thunder to even matter with the search engine.
The thing I hate most about Windows 11; is that it exists after Microsoft promised Windows 10 would be the last iteration. They said that it being "modular" they could indefinitely continue to upgrade and improve it as time went on, to support the latest advancements. In doing it this way, Windows 10 would be the last and only OS you would have to buy. ...and yet here we are.
I didn't buy that one bit when I heard the announcement. I did dream that it would be possible, but I figured that there would be 1 or even 2 decades before they announced Win 11. When they made that announcement, my mind interpret that we're not seeing the next version for a very long time.
@Tom's Stuff intentions aren't what make something new. Unless it is composed of a majority of new parts, it is just the same old thing with a few new parts tacked onto it. Put it this way, you buy a 1969 camaro. You put a new transmission in it, rebuild the engine, and upgrade the suspension and tires. Is it now a "new" car? Or is it just the same old car but with some new parts? You certainly can't call it a 2021 camaro, which is actually a new car. A car that shares zero parts with the 1969 camaro.
It's even worse with their corporate tools. 365 is a total mess with you having to go to half a dozen different sites to do things, some of them not discoverable. At least, I found out about them through "How do I accomplish X" searching. Everything changes all the time, like on a near daily or weekly basis, and every interface constantly has "new" and "old" versions, with the "old" one being what was the "new" interface a few months ago. Even their in-house documentation is constantly out of date, referencing things that have been moved or removed since the document was written. Anything with a date stamp more than a few months ago is unreliable.
The problem with the world today is most people being hired in at these companies don't understand 'user friendly' or 'QOL features'. They seem to be going for the Apple mindset of "less is more" which, when done correctly, can be a good thing. The people working on this want something shiny and flashy, not practical. Where I work, we have kiosks for placing online orders in the store. I recently found out that the touch screen is not a touch screen at all. Instead it has a built in mic that "listens" for a tap to register an input. This explains why it's easier to type with the cap of a pen than it is with your finger.
Mate. Windows 3.1 was user-friendly.. Amiga 600 had more user-friendly software.. This update is crap.. I have 12 family members computers that aren't happy with the Windows 11 update.. Those lucky to have their Windows 10 backup. Fixed. Those without backup, back to Windows 10 and start anew.. lost bucket load of stuff.. hint? Backup your computer regularly... not to cloud, actual external drive..
The most annoying thing for me is how the Internet, Wifi, and Battery Icons are now one button, which opens up a menu with way more options than you needed. It would be better if each icon had their own individual function instead.
@A Campbell I didn't revert back to Windows 10, I just got the startallback11 program, which not only gives back win10 UI, but eliminates internet search results from the search function, which I'm happy about. I'd say with some tweaking, win11 is perfectly usable, though i miss not having to do any of that at all with win10.
There was never a major need to create a new OS design (11), each windows 8.1 or 10 'major update' was always a new OS revamp. They could have concentrated on fixing security issues, adding more customisation to keep users happy, and reducing the amount of bloated features many won't use that do little but kill off third party competition
I see positive thing here that Linus started talking about minuses of software. He showed what's wrong with Linux, now what's wrong with Windows. Channel is big enough that software developers could pay attention to this. This may lead to producing better and more refined software (either its made by companies, either it's open source). These types of videos I really like :)
I don't think you know how product development at such a company works - It's most likely not that they don't know, but it's more of a resources and priority thing
@@mr2octavio Nope, designers, project managers, QA (if they had any), people who write TH-cam comments with crayolas like me :). Seriously the design language of windows 11 does not come from a developer and if you think it does you’re a fool. Extra nested context menus, removing/hiding a lot of power user features. Reworking the UI to this scale. It’s a very clearly design driven decision.
One of the biggest pains for me is having to open the settings for the volume mixer, it used to be so easy to access it. Why did they need to complicate it.
Is creating a shortcut for it not a viable workaround in Win 11? I don't have 11, so I'm not sure what is or is not an option, but just thinking what might be a solution that would create a more pleasant experience, if you're stuck with 11.
@@Nabiyah1 the problem is that the volume mixer is way more convoluted than it used to be. It's a whole page in the PC settings instead of being just a small window, how it always was in windows 7, 8 and 10. It might be a small thing for some people, but this personally really bothers me It is inthe shortcut but it opens up the settings instead of the small windows how it was in prevoius windows versions
@@petarmatovic7861 I can deal with the occasional bug, i know those arent features of windows 11 and will be ironed out. But this mixer stuff is just a clunky attempt at a completely unnecessary redesign. I use the mixer quite a lot, that's why I care. One click away doesn't justify awful design and execution
When Windows 8/8.1 were out, I kept using Windows 7 thanks to it's solid stability and high performance in games. I think I'm going to do the same thing with Windows 11. Windows 10 is staying on my PC for a few years, especially since I have an AMD CPU.
I had a copy of Windows 7 Enterprise Trial running with a scheduled task to abort the 2h trial shutdown mechanism well in the 8.1 years. Seriously, 7 was such a great OS.
Honestly, it ain't working half bad on AMD CPUs, I have 3600XT and it seems to be working pretty good. There are some problems but it's good for the most part
Removal of folder thumbnail previews for images and videos was a deal breaker for me. And despite a fix being released to easily change the default browser, setting defaults for picture viewers, video players, etc is still a pain. Oh and let's not forget that MS got so obsessed over requiring a MS account to set up Windows 11 home that they forgot the possible scenario of a computer having no network adapters (or missing network adapter drivers). In that case, it's just a dead end at the connect screen as there are no networks to choose and you can't click next (there is a workaround).
@@AquaLady153 In the "Let's connect you to a network" screen, press Shift+F10 to launch cmd; Type the following command: OOBE\BYPASSNRO After successful execution, the system will restart and restart the OOBE session box, when you reach the "Let's connect you to a network" screen, click "I don't have Internet", continue to click "limited setup", accept the license agreement and continue to create a local user account. If you've previously given it an internet connection you will need to restart the install from the beginning.
My nitpick: You can't make the taskbar smaller. It's stuck at the default size, and while you can use regedit to make it appear smaller, doing so breaks it and causes it to act as if it's larger than normal, defeating the purpose of the smaller taskbar.
Not a nitpick. It's a BIG issue. The taskbar height is HUGE especially if you're on a laptop. I thought the notch on the MBP was bad but jesus just a big fat bar of unusable space.
I can't remember exactly how I did it, but I lowered the icon size and the taskbar got smaller. It's still bigger than I like, but smaller than default. I also went from the default 150% scaling to 125%, and that seemed to help as well.
One of the changes that never really made sense to me, even in it's beta stages, is that one can no longer DRAG AND DROP files into the taskbar to pin them or even drop them into a program running. And I was suprised to notice that it made into the final version.
You can drop them on apps? How? I only ever get it to pin (I don't even get what pinning is good for) but just dropping a text file on sublime in the taskbar to open it? nope
@@chaosmagican you can try it with Chrome in windows 10, but hovering over chrome usually brings up the windows yeah? Well you can't do that with another app dragging over it, whereas you could before. Really annoying when you want to drag JPG's or something.
@@ICCUWANSIUT Hmm I just realized that you can hold shift while dragging to change from a "pin to" to a "open with" (on Windows 10). I needed this information like 5 years ago :D Maybe some alteration key works on 11? shift, alt, ctrl, something?
Bro, I just want to drag my media from my desktop into my editing software on my taskbar. Before, I could just drag the file onto "over" the software icon on the taskbar when I had the software open, and the software window would just maximize on it's own and I could just drop my media into the software. Now, I have to put my software in windowed mode, remember where exactly I had my file on my desktop so that I can drag my software out of bounds just enough to where I can see the file and drag it into the software window. Sometimes I don't even remember the exact place I have my file on my desktop, I have to drag my software around in windowed mode all over my screen, hunting for my file. Or I'll just outright minimize everything, find my file, put it on the edge of my desktop so I can then open my software again, put it in windowed mode and drag it to the side, exposing my file icon just enough so I can drag it. W T F!???????
This is why I am sticking to Windows 10 for the first few months. I remember I was in elementary school when Windows 10 came out, and my teacher didn't update the school computers for a couple years until after its release because, "New operating systems always have bugs". She knew hardly anything about technology, but what she said then is still true today.
Early adopters are beta testers. Windows 10 has like another 5 years. So unless win 11 becomes necessary for me. Like needing if for specific software, i dont see my self upgrading for a long time
The latest you will have to move to Win11 is June 2023, but you would have to be on the latest version of Win10 or they force update you straight to 11.
You need to do another one of these, especially after they've been hacked through remote login which they did not take seriously, forcing the elimination of hdds even performance ones meant for gaming, and requiring secure boot so that you can never use Linux on the computer that you own, not them. Also might address being forced to create a Microsoft account. When you do it, I hope you address some of these issues instead of the nitty-gritty.
My issue is with the taskbar icons, they removed the “never combine” option, so now it’s much harder to multitask. It’s like playing hide and seek trying to find the window I had just used.
@@Haloruler64 Ηere we go again. I did something similar when Window 8 came out. I didn't expect I will need again a similar utility to make my life easier.
The biggest problem I'm experiencing with current applications, it over-simplicity. I want to have more control over my stuff, not less. If companies like MS are concerned about less tech savvy users (which would be more reasonable decade ago), they could make two profiles: user friendly and advanced. Guessing what user MIGHT need, is not the way to go, and unfortunately that problem goes with more applications, not only Windows 11.
In my workplace, all my peers blame this on apple. I can sense that windows is just 3 editions away from getting rid of file explorer and introducing their version of "finder"
@@xaleksas One thing I do not like about the Dolphin File Explorer is that there is no "root" (admin) privilege option at all. I understand that this might be problematic for Non-Tech-savvy, but for Power-User this should be at least optional
I don't think you'll ever get the widespread usage feedback from "beta". You get some stuff from enthusiasts and early adopters, but that skews the data quite a bit towards non-typical usage. Windows 11 works well enough to be in production. The car still runs even if the cup holder is missing and the wipers are on backwards.
@@DuyNguyen-yx2vd That's why you have beta testing staff that find and report these bugs so they can be fixed before the release! Oh, right: Microsoft fired their entire beta testing department in 2016, right when they started the "Microsoft Insider" program and also started pushing forced updates early to a small random group of users and waiting a few weeks for complaints & bug reports before rolling it out to everyone! Unacceptable! I must say that I hate this term, but if you fancy *paying* a multi-billion dollar company your money so you can bugtest their software for them, I can't help but say you're a smoothbrain if I've ever seen one!
My first gripes going from W10 to W11(22H2): - Start menu: grouping tiles in W10 was a good thing, as it was a good thing that we cloud resize the area, in W11 it is unorganized and limited in space -- getting to the right app takes longer - Desktop toolbar: the menu worked well as an alternative to the start menu (organizing the links in directories so that they would appear as a tree-view), now the latter is worse and the former is missing! - Storage pool: why doesn't it report the SN of the disks as it did in W10? It is an essential part of making sure I am removing the one drive I intend to remove. Supposedly it should report it in the disk properties, but a) it doesn't show the information (is it a bug? the label is there, but the field is empty! or is it just my PC?), b) it should have this information in the disk list view!
Windows Vista solved the corner grabbing issue in an interesting way: with transparent borders. The borders were large enough you could grab them, but being transparent they didn't look "heavy". This was a deliberate design choice. It was an artistic solution to a practical problem.
I'm not quite sure what Linus is talking about, I have no problem at all mousing over corners to get the resize arrows. Then again, I don't run at 4K+ where pixel perfect precision is a difficult thing to achieve.
@@Mr.Morden But if they ask you to make a Microsoft account or to pay extra for the Pro version, to not be able to open links in the default Web Browser unless it's Edge so they can spy on you... that's embarassing even for Microsoft. To me Windows 11 feels more like a begar and overspied Windows 10. Such few features for so much extra hardware requirements. Why would it need 4GB of RAM when Win10 only needs 2?
You can actually bypass the MS account sign in. You just need to fail a sign in, I usually just put "a" in the account name and password fields to clear it. It redirects you to creating a local account right after.
@@cheddar07 Yeah, I had to do this for the full install process for Win10 on my 2011 iMac, because it would brick itself if it tried to get drivers automatically. I did the whole install with ethernet disconnected and refused to give it the WiFi password, then used group policy editor to bar it from getting its own drivers AND had to download drivers via another computer to bring them over via USB stick before it would finally give up and just use the drivers I supplied.
Here's my gripe to add to the list: changing your sound mixing used to be a tiny, easy window in the bottom right. Now it opens up the full settings menu!
You forgot to mention that Win11 is doing even more data gathering (aka. Telemetry) and Win11 now requires you to to have TPM and Bit-locker enabled allowing Microsoft to ransomware you by encrypting your computer via a windows update or a certificate failure if they don't like what they saw when snooping on your PC via telemetry or do something they dislike with the Microsoft Account you are required to use to log into windows with.
Every good software has telemetry. I don't get why people are freaking out over it so much. Developers need some telemetry to know how users are using their apps, which features are popular and which aren't, what versions people are using etc.
Windows 7 telemetry sent to microsoft is literally why W8 lacked a start button
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I suppose Windows is the perfect gaming OS then. Promises a lot, but releases before the bugs are worked out and isn't really fit for use until a year or two after release.
tbh this isnt knews. the rule has always been: wait until after sp1. i know they dont use that update scheme anymore, but i guess maybe after feature update 1 ? im gonna stay on w10 for a while.
As a developer, I cannot believe how all these small issues and design flaws make it through quality control and into such a major release - how they even leave the developer’s PC. I mean, Microsoft really has talented people and surely some of the best developers out there, but how can something like this happen?
Their management, their QA team is way smaller than it used to be, they lay off bunch of QA team back around Windows 8.1, before Windows 10 which seems to explain why the buggies of Windows 10 when it release. They also really rushing this for holiday season while this new Windows 11 UX is still fairly new, maybe 6 months or less, at least it was like 3 months for Insiders to test new Windows 11 UI and features, very short.
There interested in only making money and they don't care how they go about to get it including releasing a much up hype OS only for it to have so many bugs.
Probably my biggest annoyance is that you can no longer set system tray icons to 'Display All'. If you want them all displayed, you have to check each one individually, and then go back into the menu every time there's a new one and toggle it on.
@@ktkace ms being shit nowadays? where have you been the last 25 years? I mean Windows 98 - first edition, Win Me, Vista, 8.0 and oll other Windows' which became good after years of patching (98SE,XP,7,10). (Excluding 3.x as they were just an UI above DOS)
Windows 10 is going to be similar to how I upgraded when I had Windows 7 for me. Meaning that I'll skip Windows 11 till a Windows 12 comes out just like I skipped Windows 8 when I had Windows 7. They'd have to seriously redo many of their design choices for me to even consider it.
It would be nice to have the ability to just swap between versions in the sense of design. Like you can have all the advanced features of windows 11, but if you want you can swap to the layout of windows 7, or xp, or 10 or 8 etc
For me. The most annoying issue I have experience is "small taskbar" was removed. Before upgrading, everyone was stating that ability to move it to the sides or to the top was removed but no mention of other features. For me, I dont like the thick taskbar that windows 7 added and in 8, they added the option for "small taskbar" which shinks it down to slightly bigger then xp/vista height which is great .... But windows 11 says I must have my taskbar thick. Hate the look
I support this, i really like the option to make your taskbar smaller so that you can fit more things on your main screen and not be bothered by a big sized taskbar
Microsh*t is satan worshipper. So they always insist and persuade their crappy ideas and their products, apps upon us. Forcing edge browser, hard to make our desired apps default, are not acceptable and it's not fair. Governments should cripple MS for forcing childish things upon us. I hope third party like stardock will give us their software for patching w11, and we will get reg hacks to position taskbar and context menu on the internet for upcoming years. MS showed their satanic face in Windows 10 already, which is, if you associate media files from inside your favorite media player then that media player won't become default, but on Windows 7 it worked perfectly. Same goes for all file types.
The dev team is out of touch. They are adding features and 'improving' (depending on whom you ask) the aesthetics. But no one seems to be asking the simple question - Is it easier this way, or harder? The same thing is affecting MS Office too. Things that took 2 or 3 keystrokes back in 2003, are now taking 4 or 5 keystrokes in 2021. Why? We expect new features and upgrades, but the core heavy-use items should always be easiest to find and use. Agreed fully with the other complaints. Not rushing to Windows 11.
Microsoft needs to follow the idea if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Windows 11 is currently a disaster. Windows 10 probably can last for another 10 years. To be fair I have no idea what Windows 11 added, beside security updates, that makes upgrading worth it. We'll probably have to wait 1-2 years before Windows 11 is stable.
MS is following the google/android path and making everything apple-esque. Everything needs to have a big panel with big icons and settings page with 300 more buttons to look at.
@@coolwin7710 Windows 12 will be lit though!! I always feel a bit conflicted - Should we avoid it until they fix most of the bugs, or should we get in early and file our own complaints in hopes that they listen?
When in a full-screen game, Explorer often crashes every 10 seconds or so. It's extremely annoying, especially considering half the time it minimizes the game window.
Microsh*t is satan worshipper. So they always insist and persuade their crappy ideas and their products, apps upon us. Forcing edge browser, hard to make our desired apps default, are not acceptable and it's not fair. Governments should cripple MS for forcing childish things upon us. I hope third party like stardock will give us their software for patching w11, and we will get reg hacks to position taskbar and context menu on the internet for upcoming years. MS showed their satanic face in Windows 10 already, which is, if you associate media files from inside your favorite media player then that media player won't become default, but on Windows 7 it worked perfectly. Same goes for all file types.
Here's an update on the problems brought up in the video as of December 2023 (correct me if I'm wrong on some of this stuff): Certificate expiry bug - Fix released during and after the video was published Local account creation - Same now as when the video was published. Driver downgrading - Still apparently an issue (can't recreate this myself however). File Explorer crashing - Microsoft is apparently (slowly) working to fix the file explorer crashing/performance issues, but it is still a problem. Weather display on the taskbar - Same now as when the video was published. Taskbar right-click menu - Only change to the right-click menu was the reimplementation of the option to bring up the Task Manager, no other additions to the taskbar right-click menu besides that occurred. Taskbar clock display on multiple monitors - Reimplemented via an update since the video was published. Gaming issues - Can't verify if any of the gaming issues brought up in the video still occur myself, but I assume at least most of the issues brought up in the video are fixed by now. Window scaling issues - Can't verify if this still happens (don't have a multi-monitor setup) Update Assistant issues - Presumably fixed at this point. Taskbar overflow icons - I can't recreate the issue where you can't right-click on overflow icons in the taskbar as demonstrated in the video myself, so it must've been fixed at some point(?). UI: - Windows are still hard to resize (no changes since the video was published). - No real changes to the right-click menu on the desktop since the video was published. - Start menu is still functionally the same since the video was published (it did have some minor changes, but doesn't address the core problems mentioned in the video) - Search is functionally the same as when the video was published.
Windows 11 introduces a lot of cool features, like the additional window tiling options, and then makes weird design choices. I'd prefer Windows 10 start menu tiles to a separate widgets panel, or at least allow it on desktop a la Rainmeter. What's this design trend for complete minimalism and hiding every single option beneath a billion menus requiring a billion clicks?
@@Xsses Oh oh, ChromeOS! Or do you mean one of the many linux flavors that uses centered icons in the dock? this idea that "everyones copying apple" is hilarious to me. It's called a design trend, and its because the design is popular.
@@MGosling94 I wonder what OS are you using, lol And btw, Apple is doing that since 2001. You would have to wait 10 years for Chrome OS to do that and many years for Linux DEs to do that. They started the trend, which basically means that everyone is copying them.
@@Xsses Or, surprise, its a trend because its a good design choice for most people. "I bet you like windows 11" is a pretty terrible rebuttal. Stop worrying about people copying apple. We learn from the success of others, that's art and any other industry. Applies to UX design as well.
The people designing every option to be hidden beneath a billion menus requiring a billion clicks is probably the same people designing car dashboards with no physical buttons.
The worst feature they removed is the ability to drag files onto the taskbar, which used to un-minimize the program so you could drag the file into the program.
Going from Mac to windows - this is mind boggling to me, also not having a recent paths/folders list handy drives me insane, I’m so sick of having to copy/paste every path I need!
They didn’t add it back entirely, it only works for pinnable items, eg you can’t pin a folder without jumping through hoops (make a desktop shortcut, add explorer to the path, drag to taskbar) and you can’t pin a file - it just opens the folder with the file instead of running it.
1letter is 8 bits. Why not don't use letter instead? Which takes 8 bits/letter. Or better great idea is write your code in c, cpp and convert it into liter code by a software which is 1letter = 1bit. Then, put into hardware. That's seems a great idea.
Here's the 1 year update (with 22H2): 1. Fixed it with day one patch one year ago. 2. They made it even worse: even if you're running the pro version, you are "forced" to connect to the internet and to sign in to a Microsoft account (unless you press Shift+F10 and type OOBE\BYPASSNRO) 3. This depends with the OEMs actually. If it's a new Windows 11 device, you'll have no problems. Otherwise, especially if your brand doesn't update your drivers anymore, Windows Update will still install the older, Windows 10 drivers. 4. They fixed it months ago, thankfully, but the only feature missing is to disable the "hover to open" option. 4.5. Fixed it with this month's preview update, adding "Task Manager" to the taskbar context menu. Also, the other options were useless aside from task manager. As for the clock on multiple monitors, they added it months ago. 5. Problem fixed, but not entirely if you didn't install the AMD chipset drivers (don't depend on Windows Update) 6. Unfortunately that problem is not fixed, and maybe Windows 10 has that too. 7. These errors should be fixed in less than a year. Didn't try it yet as I'm always clean-installing Windows at least once every year. 8. Thankfully it works now. Didn't try it during a game yet. 9. (seven eight nine) 10. They somehow made it easier to grab from the corner, but your mileage may vary. 10.5. Unfortunately it still exists. Maybe because not all the options are implemented from the legacy context menu, but the desktop one already has all of them since day one. Strange. 11. The start menu now can have more pinned apps or recommendations, and now you can create forders, but still, you can't remove the recommended tab entirely and it's still far from the customizable Windows 10 start menu. As for searching, now it feels consistent switching from it. 11.5. That web search, which of course, it forces you to use Edge and Bing no matter what browser or search engine you're using by default, can be disabled with a registry key or with a tweaking program, but even if you don't do this, it's still better than Windows 10. TLDR, thanks to these fixes, it should be this month the actual release (RTM) of Windows 11 instead of rushing it because Intel wants to beat AMD in every single possible way, but now, combined with the absurd system requirements aimed for security, Windows 11 will be less popular than Windows 10, at least before its end of support in 2025.
I can add another annoyance: If you enable hide taskbar, your sytem tray might not load on boot. To get it back, you either have to disable and reenable hide taskbar or restart the explorer. Also, some windows lag terribly when being dragged accross the desktop.
Glad I'm not the only one having that taskbar issue. Actually had to go back to windows 10 to verify a broken GPU and I'm finding it much friendlier. And I don't think it's comfortability with the OS that's causing that, since windows 11 was pretty simple for me. Just too many bad decisions, I feel.
Almost by accident, I found another method of getting the systray to show up again. Change your multi-monitor config by pressing Win+P, then change it back. I think that the systray not loading is somehow connected to the problem Linus described when using multiple monitors.
It still amazes me how probably the largest most influential tech company of all time can spend SO LONG on every OS they release, and still manage to have a laundry list of problems with it EVERY....SINGLE....TIME.
It's a reflection on how huge operating system code is. And while a software engineer can test the shit out of the various pieces, the real test of any software is when it goes out into the world.,
If you're comparing Windows to Mac or Linux here, it's not quite fair. Windows is compatible with 100x the hardware. It's much easier to code an OS when you know exactly what hardware to expect like Mac. And Linux is notoriously bad for hardware compatibility.
@@kaldo_kaldo That statement is patently false. MacOS does definitely have the benefit of a low amount of hardware support, but the hardware support for Linux completely dwarfs what Windows has. This is because Linux is open source, so anyone can contribute drivers for their incredibly niche or random old device into the kernel. In terms of official drivers included in the main-line kernel, Linux generally gets support for new hardware just a little later than Windows, but it has a much more vast support for many older hardware configurations and uncommon hardware. Windows definitely has faster hardware support, but usually involves you downloading drivers that may or may not still be hosted online, whereas Linux has hardware support for nearly everything built into the kernel itself.
@@aviroblox6624 I guess a more accurate statement is that Windows supports anything you have unless you're a tech hoarder while it's a complete crapshoot as to if the linux distro you're using will support your peripheral from 5 years ago. Yeah it's fully capable of doing so because it's open source, but that doesn't mean it does. And if it does on your distro that doesn't mean it's working on another distro. Linux is great for supporting some thing bought by 5 people 30 years ago - Windows isn't going to support that.
In terms of technology, Microsoft isn't influential. They haven't invented any of the major tech we use. Microsoft's only succeeded because IBM didn't ask for ownership of MS-DOS. P.S. The rounded corners of the windows on my Mac work well 😀😉
I finally tried it when I bought my first system that could actually run it (I use my PCs for a long time). I haven't really used it much because right away I found something that will NEVER stop to annoy me, is driving me to distraction: One can't deactivate the grouping of items in the taskbar. It is a small thing compared to what you brought up in the video, but it just annoys me so much that I will never use win11 until they fix it. Also, my system sometimes doesn't shut down, it goes to a weird sleep mode, that still drains battery, instead. And so I regularly return to a laptop with empty battery.
As someone frequently moving large data folder to folder, the stability of Explorer in the modern day is unacceptable. Blows my mind that the base structure of an operating system can break so frequently.
Not to mention that people have asked for tabs in Explorer forever. It's absurd that we still have to use 3rd party programs to get tabs. Also i hate that Explorer does not show folder sizes in a column. I have to hover over each folder to see their size.
@@superstar64 Well, uh... No. Vista may have had a very rocky launch but it ALSO had a good excuse of shipping with a FUCKTON of new features and much more native support for newer hardware. Vista was painful, but it needed to happen. Windows 11 on the other hand... ? Like, even IF it didn't have all these issues, why the fuck should I or anyone switch to it? HDR? Support for the newer and (very debatedly) better hybrid Intel chips? That's literally all I can think of. Everything else Windows 11 offers is either a bugfix of 10 or... Yeah, actually that's about it. Fucking bugfixes that we should have gotten in 10 but Microsoft didn't give a fuck. And while we're talking about all this, WHY IS IT THAT WE STILL CAN'T TURN OFF AUTOMATIC UPDATES? Fuck off, Microsoft.
Does no one else find that, "dragging some file from one window and hovering over a minimized application at the taskbar to unminimize it and release the file in that app" being missing, one of the worst things in Win 11?
I've always just alt tabbed whilst dragging so I don't find it that annoying but there's a couple of times I'm just working with mouse only and it is an absolute pain!
you can still somewhat use that feature... just click drag the file, press alt+tab, release tab, move the app over to the window where you want to move it (file location) and then just drop it there :)
For power users it's super annoying, they have literally removed features that already existed on Windows 10 and took the apple approach of make it look good with none of the features you need
Yeah but at least the apple features all work and the menus make more sense 😂 And i'm not a fan of apple. Never thought i would say such a thing in my life, but ms fcked up hard.
What features are you missing? I haven't spotted any features I can't use now. And making it look good has been a crucial oversight since the beginning of W10, hardly a thing to complain about being probably the most important thing ms have been slacking on for 6 years.
And the worst part is, it doesn't even look good. It looks decent but it should have been a minor overhaul option for Win10. No reason to call it a new OS and force all the other bullshit down people's throat without even hiring a basic UX designer to tell them that their ideas are absolutely idiotic.
2:59 When File Explorer crashes it also gets rid of the whole taskbar including the start menu, it is literally big part of the UI. I know this because manually I restart the program sometimes.
I learned a LONG TIME AGO, even as far back as Windows 98, to NOT upgrade to a new OS in Windows until a year had passed and the majority of the bugs were worked out!
My rule wasn’t a time period to wait to upgrade. I wait for the first Service Pack. The first service pack usually fixes what was broken and things people complained about most when the OS was released.
There seems to be way too many issues for me to go with windows 11. Looks like I'm sticking with windows 10 for the foreseeable future until all of these things are fixed.
Yup, there was a time when new tech was exciting. Now everything seems to launch in beta/release candidate. Alder Lake, Windows 11, 4K 120 Hz TVs not having VRR support despite advertising it, iOS updates, new iPhones etc. Companies know this and this is why pre-orders are becoming increasingly common. In 2021 and beyond, no piece of tech is worth buying at launch. Wait for first impressions, initial reviews, final reviews and Review: 3 months later. Then decide whether or not to purchase something once a large number of bugs have been patched/have become public knowledge.
for what its worth, i been on windows 11 and its just fine. windows 11 seems to have this negative hype, like people expect it to be bad, and when one random person has a bug, people make it sound like everyone gets it.
One of the most mind-boggling omissions was removing photo album previews from the folder icons. Going from Win10 to Win11 wasn't as off-putting as the switch from Win7 to Win8.0, but there are so many little idiosyncratic quirks that I'm disappointed it shipped with my new laptop. Dual-booting with Ubuntu (or OpenSuse depending on the machine) and using Windows only when compatibility dictates remains the most accommodating experience, at least for my needs.
Oh yeah that bugged me so much. It's such a little detail but it makes navigation easier and is generally more pleasing to look at over a sea of blank, identical-looking folders. I still find it fairly easy to use for what I want, but there's enough irritating quirks which don't need to be there (forcing certain apps onto my taskbar every time I restart, even after uninstalling them, is another personal "favourite").
If I can't figure out how to revert the new laptop to Windows 10, I honestly might just return it. The first two things I tried to do was customize the size of the taskbar, set chrome as the default browser, use "open in file location" and get rid of the rounded edges. After finding out I can no longer do every single thing I've tried to do, I'm just defeated. I have been trying to figure out how to revert all day. What was supposed to be an awesome new PC experience has become an 8 hr aggravating troubleshoot, and I'm just fed up with it.
After installing the windows 11 that I thought was free and "great", every thing imaginable started happening from sound to graphics to laptop not starting to game freezing for 3-5 seconds mid gaming. Great! Really Great! I deserve this. Its entirely my mistake.
I also kinda prefer the way windows 10 looked. It overall had a cleaner more advanced look. Windows 11 feels dumbed down and a bit catered towards children now it's less minimalistic in design which Is not a good thing when we're talking about user interface.
I installed Win10 2019. Took me like a year to get used to the new none aero look. And now it's time to go back to rounded corners?!? I think I'll wait until 2023 or 24 before I feel forced to switch again.
Microsoft is really consistent, every second release is just plagued with issues. This release looks like some of the steam Unity early access survival/crafting games.
Imagine having such steep requirements for getting a job at Microsoft, yet they can manage to pull such amateur moves like these - consistently at that. I think their steep job requirements is actually just to hold a form of bragging right. I know this happens in many big corpos, like some of them enjoy boasting with the amount of ph.d employees they have, and thus will require a ph.d even for basic positions such as their receptionists (basically meaning the actual qualification for the job of receptionist is valued second to the educational level of the applicant). Wouldn't surprise me if MS was no different, that they value bragging rights over actual expertise in many fields. That "working at Microsoft" has become the selling point and the main goal of the company, not just to make professional competitive products.
How did they even manage to fuck this up? I thought they just restyled Windows 10 and did some optimizations, how could this result in myriads of missing and broken features & functionality?! 🧐
Nah, Windows 10 was broken too. They broke WDM for half of the product's lifespan and WDM is the Windows Desktop Manager, aka, Windows. This was why people with multiple monitors kept having random issues all the time. Windows 11 finally fixed it, which is why theyre billing all that Multimonitor support everywhere, theyre basically bragging they finally fixed that pesky bug that was plaguing them for several years, and decided to roll it into a new OS instead of giving everyone the update. Theres also the shit they kept doing with the Bluetooth and USB stack that caused a bunch of devices to stop working and require driver updates, or whenever Microsoft would totally break HDR support from update to update
@@SAVarXX Man Windows 10 is still broken. Don't give me no BS, its broken. That's why 11 is coming, because they can't excuse it anymore, it's been 11 years they got no excuse. 11 is just MS resetting the "We fked up, sorry let us fix it in these updates" clock.
this is one of those probably incoming features. when win11 first came on the beta channel when you right clicked on the sound icon and clicked volume mixer it use to take you to the settings page you see when you opened setting normally and you had to go system>sound>volume mixer in the settings but a couple updates later you could directly open the volume mixer in settings. it's just like one of those features
Microsoft should have never gotten rid of their dedicated QA department, outsourcing your testing to a bunch of Insiders (Windows Early Access Edition) is a fucking joke.
@@bored78612 How should they be held accountable for that? It’s their product and as long as it’s in the law and their EULA they can do whatever they please
windows 7 for history's sake was my favorite windows so far. loved the simplicity what gamers really only need for maximum cpu and gpu speed even ram usage
XP is still my absolute favorite windows. I like Windows 10 it’s probably in second place. Vista made me want to throw up. I just don’t see the need to get 11 as it seems like a worse 10. Maybe 12 will be the ticket
For those who wondering how to skip the account login during the windows 11 initial setup, hit shift F10 (for cmd) and type taskmgr to open up task manager. Under Process Tab, look for Network Flow, stop the operation. It will skip the Microsoft account and instead goes to local account page.
Actually if you fresh install or buy branded notebook its still ask for it even if you did not wish connect the wifi. In windows 11 you cant skip the wifi page (before user page). So you have to do this method.
No one talks about the removal of "dragging any file to taskbar icon to copy it in that app". In all previous windows dragging a file to a minimized taskbar icon would unminimize the app and we could drop the file in the app. This extremely useful feature is gone and made me return back to win10.
Spot on that should have been part of this video but as you said everyone is ignoring that feature.... It's like the tech reviewers are in on something we are not been made aware of yet
@@damvcoool Tech reviewers are mostly used to multi monitor setup. They don't need to minimize things. They just open different apps in different monitor and drag things across monitor. At least that's the only logical reason I could come up with.
I see similar trends all over the Microsoft portfolio. For example if you compare One Note 2016 to One Note for Win 10, many useful features have been removed. I'm sure, it's not the developers but the pos who are pulling the strings here, and somehow seem to think reducing features makes a product more modern or equals simplicity, which it does not.
@@ahamuffin4747 it probably has more to do with selling another product than looking simple and modern. One Note for Win10 does not have everything, if you want them buy office 365..
For Windows, you always have to wait for the first equivalent of "service pack" patches before actually installing it. Oh and Microsoft can take its Tablet-centric design and stick it.
As someone using it on a Surface Tablet (something made by Microsoft ffs) I can confirm it is not tablet-friendly at all. It has become so much harder to use via touchscreen than Windows 10 was. I'm very very disappointed with this supposedly tablet-centric design.
@@tyrannicpuppy they literally have no idea what to do with the UI. Even Windows 10 sucked without the very precise stylus. I swear, they're taking elements of mobile just to make it look familiar and then keeping older desktop conventions completely arbitrarily. I don't get it at all. What are they even trying to do anymore? Can't they have a keyboard and mouse interface and a tablet mode? I am using a mouse and am setting up my PC. Just let me open all the settings at once while I check things across multiple Windows. Just don't take it away from me.
@@Jtzkb I personally think that the Windows 7 start menu and Explorer menu bar and Control panel, with everything else from Win10 (snapping, screen division, multiple desktops, ... etc) is the best combination. Win2000 was good, but the start menu wasn't good enough.
@@ShiroKage009 Its the same shit there tired almost 10 years ago with Windows 8 putting a clearly for a Touche screen designed interface as the standard for a Desktop despite the fact that no ones likes it. My only guess is that there at Microsoft thing that touch controls will eventually become so omni present like Window's own GUI became during the Command line based MSDOS era and there for pushes for it not understanding that Touche screens are for a number of reasons not a improvement or a quality of live enchantment for Desktop use unlike the GUI causing it to never catch on the way there want it to.
I have zero interest upgrading to 11 for the next couple of years, unless something remarkable comes from it. I think many people forget it took MS atleast a year or two until Win10 was worthy. I used Win7 until they decided to bin the OS so all the issues were ironed out, which made the transition pleasant.
Day 1 for me Windows 10 was better than any OS Microsoft, or any other developer for that matter, has ever released. While I don't like some of the stability issues with Explorer in Windows 11, all the rest of the complaints I've found are pretty petty and pointless. Like seriously, the size of the taskbar and Windows Search? To be fair Windows search has NEVER worked and honestly it is an entirely pointless feature.
@@armyofninjas9055 I built my pc in 2017 and windows 10 was terribly sluggish (UI felt like molassas sometimes) and had some weird bugs until around 2 years after it was released.
The removal of taskbar labels is by far the biggest mistake of Windows 11. It makes managing multiple instances of the same app almost impossible, because you have to hunt and peck via alt+tab or win+tab rather than just looking at your taskbar. Absolutely unforgivable.
And I could swear its done this way because "hovering" over something wouldn't work on a touch device which this was clearly designed to be for (which also explained the lack of folders in the Start menu and the always double high taskbar)
This mixed with (I don't know if you guys have had this) sometimes if you click on a window it will not bring it to the front makes it SUCH a pain if you are quickly trying to change something on a secondary monitor whilst a full screen application is running
You may know that corporations often run out of truly innovative ideas and then fall back to "Make-Work" projects. Windows 10 is perfectly fine and so was Windows 7 but we have truly entered an era of moving icons and functions around while changing color palettes..... and that's all. No innovation, no great new functions, and definately not easier to use. Look, I am engineer and I have a workflow where I get to know where everything is and get into a sweet flow but Microsoft seems to want to sabotage mine and everone elses work in innovation by moving our mice around for us. Microsoft, go stand in the corner and think about what you are doing!
I just love the constant searching for the options that were so easily accessible on Windows 10, it's like a carny ride of fun trying to figure out where the new settings are hidden....
Now compare that to Windows 7 where it took me one second to check my WiFi password on my laptop, now I have to Google it everytime and find hidden settings within settings. I think they like it when we suffer
Ever since I think Windows 8, settings have been an absolute shitshow. They seem to be split between two different styles and it’s terribly difficult to find what you actually need.
I work in IT and so far I'm telling all my customers not to upgrade to Windows 11. My advice is wait a couple of years and see what happens, it could get replaced very quickly like Windows 8.0 and 8.1 did. Right now Windows 10 end of support is set for Oct 2025 but I'm willing to bet that will get extended just like Windows 7 did. Newer is not always better!
@jo e yeah people act like its a major security and integrity issue. I have some issues that were mentioned in the video but no hard-lock bugs that would make the OS a writeoff. These are issues that MS should have fixed beforehand, but it wont take them years to catch up to a stable and useful release for anyone (exept low-mid end hardware unfortunately)
My favorite was the promise before launch that windows 11 would remember the placement of open windows when plugging in a laptop to another monitor. This definitely does not happen. Just moving the open program from an additional monitor back to a laptop skews it so bad it often takes me minutes to reduce the window down to a size just where I can find it on the laptop again. It also fails to show icons in the taskbar on the additional monitor that's connected to the laptop, it just shows these failed spaces.
This was literally the main selling point of windows 11 for me. I hate the flickering and folder and app re-sizing and re-positioning with passion. Why the f*** can't they just make a power user option where we can lock the displays virtually? So that stupid idiot Windows wouldn't have to guess which display is the primary when one wakes up before another, and rearrange all the s*** everywhere. Windows could just BELIEVE that yes - the displays still exist until my masterful user tells me they don't. Turn it on at ones own risk. Optimally ofc it could detect whether the display is powered off,sleeping or unplugged completely, but I know that's asking way too much.
Can't believe not being able to move the taskbar to any side and any monitor did not make it onto this list. And multi monitor upgrades was supposedly a priority for 11.
Clearly you're just like the washed up old dope it's in beta quit comparing something in beta to a full release even if it's made by the same people nobody is making you change OS that's why I unsubscribed his content has fallen into the typical complain with the community content when it's way better then before just some small qol features aren't there which you can't be surprised since it's in beta and not meant for any people who need it to work perfectly or who need such a small useless feature
@@k4g675That's some smoothbrain logic. If all the missing features were so useless no one would be complaining now would they? And if nobody was addressing these things during the beta how do you expect ms to fix them in the final release?
@@megapro125 Guess that this Killer4Ghost is an absolute casual user, who only starts some of his programs and thus never experiences how great and useful the customization can be on windows 10 & 7 🙄 People that only uses the their pcs for some gaming and open a webbrowser, will never understand the complains.
I can't believe you didn't mention the removal of "Never combine taskbar buttons." I refuse to use Windows 11 until it's added back. It's a productivity nightmare.
I don't know what Microsoft was thinking when they removed so many useful productivity-focused features (like making the taskbar smaller, not combining taskbar elements, being able to show taskbar labels, being able to relocate the taskbar to top/sides etc). Just, ugh. Looks so great and I would love to use W11 for its many other useful features, but stupid issues like these is going to keep me from upgrading for now.
Video says 2 years old. I was recently coerced into taking Windows 11. I HATE IT. So many stupid, unwanted, unnecessary changes. It has made it harder to do my job, which was already hard enough.
Thank you for saying what I've been feeling since I installed Windows 11. I spent way too much time tweaking Windows 11 UI to make it more functional until I eventually re-installed Windows 10.
It took me 1 hour fighting new Windows until I realized they made it for phones. One button mice - my dreams come true - whatever I press Windows sees it as left button click on taskbar.
This. Or that they have removed the seconds from the clock. Like, what did they do to them? 😕 I will never go to Windows 11, I'm learning how to use linux instead
Yep, this. The amount of Googling I've done trying to figure out where they have hidden it in disbelieve that they had actually removed it. Why oh why would I want to wait for windows to show up when hovering over things rather than clicking them directly, or let the taskbar be a big blank space when I could have useful labels.. Yeah there's third party ways to return the taskbar to basically windows 10's taskbar. But messing with the explorer process on an operating system this new is begging to run into trouble. (Point in case: My gf ran into issues because she did install something to move the taskbar to the right side of the screen, one windows update later and the computer starts up with just a black screen instead of the desktop). So dear microsoft, can we please have drag and drop, window titles and an option to not combine buttons back? Like we had in Windows 10? Oh and make the taskbar draggable to any side? Ya know.. like we already had in the 'old' Windows. Removing features is always a bad idea.
There's something with the copy/cut/paste system that causes Explorer to crash, primarily when using the right-click menu instead of CTRL+ keys. I've noticed this a LOT on file renames.
@@killertruth186 Yes, from 95 to XP missed out 98 and ME, unless you had already jumped across to 2K (not that I cared - I went from NT3.1 on the fully 32 ->64 bit route) then from 7 to 10 missed 8 and 8.1 (which was a way of not calling it Win9). With rapidly improving game compatibility (thankyou steam), I'll probably go to Linux before Win11, and keep my personal metadata to myself. As long as M$ is collecting and selling that metadata, the user is the product, the data purchaser is the client, and the OS is entirely suitable to be removed by any truly adequate antivirus software.
I agree with the prioritization, I would like to be able to have it (local mostly) even the search (online) is so obnoxious, as well the bug you've mentioned still opens up a separate window for search rather than maintaining (search screen mitigation) that's why we have browsers (also, perhaps the main reason why they are looking at this as a workaround for Windows Help.) There were somethings even during saving (autosave) which wants you to use their (Cloud) by default, often not necessary, but, which, also creates dependency on their Software and Network. I downloaded their Microsoft Office (not 365) within 5 days it had an ad on my desktop to try 365, weird right?
I’m still with window 10, doesn’t seem worth upgrading until all these types of bugs are fixed or improved. Also I prefer the windows 10 design as I’m not using a tablet so would like the more details without going through endless viewing tabs
honestly I had 0 bugs till now, and it's been a month. Everything still works, including games and I didn't even do a fresh install, but rather chose the option where it keeps my files. I'm actually really happy with it, although not much has changed actually apart from some cool features. But then again it depends on your usecase
@@SweatyFeetGirl what ? noooo you are supposed to be mad and complain... i am on 11 and same here, rock solid, got none of these bugs. i think like 90% of people here never even tried 11 and just believe the negativity
The amount of times I have seen boomers copy paste this comment makes it extremely cringe. Nobody's beta-testing for you, they're using it before you, as am I. And I haven't had any problems from the last two months.
I absolutely hate how difficult it is to create a new folder in the right click menu - rename, too. Now it requires an extra click to make it happen. Guess they are forcing me to get better with shortcuts? On the positive side - it handles multiple user accounts a ton better. In Windows 10, the task bar would often freeze if I was logged into two accounts at once. All of this seems to be resolved with Windows 11.
In every multi-user version of Windows since XP, I never once experienced the Taskbar locking-up when two accounts were logged-in at once. Something was wrong with your specific install.
@Tr4sh Oxide you can get around it, just wait for the next OS to release. I remember when vista released my dad stuck with XP until 7 came out. I also did the same thing when windows 8 came out, I stayed with 7 until 10 dropped.
I was glad to see that the inability to right click the taskbar to bring up task manager was mentioned, although I quickly got used to right clicking the start menu button instead, since that does still give you the option to summon task manager. The other thing that drives me nuts about Windows 11 is that the calendar / clock button on the taskbar now no longer shows you the events on your calendar. It shows a calendar, but there's no indication of when your events are. That was such as useful little feature to be able to get an overview of your schedule without launching the full app, and now it's gone.
I’m amazed as well that they reduced the number of options when right clicking the vast space on the taskbar. And I’m glad I’m not the only one who did that to get to task manager. Pity none of this works for the 10-20% of times my Win11 boots without a taskbar or start menu!
Using Windows + W you can open up Widgets and in there you can add the To-Do Widget to add things you need to do, also pressing Windows + X shows you a list of things (one of those being Task Manager)
@@jace888au You can open Task Manager fairly easily if you press the Windows Key and X (Windows + X) which gives you a list of things including Task Manager
Here's a little something that was omitted from the video. The most compelling features for the use of an MS account to login to windows has always been sync between devices. Whether it was settings, personalization, or even the task view, it was incredibly useful... Keyword here being _was_. This feature got removed in Windows 11 for... some strange reason.
In my limited testing with Windows 11 the only thing that really annoyed me was the inability to move the taskbar. I've always enjoyed having the taskbar at the top any time I found myself on Windows. Before anyone mentions 3rd party tools or even the registry value that can be changed, I am well aware of those. Problem is not all the flyout menus show up in the proper place, so it just gives you an extremely inconsistent experience.
Not even that but you can't move the hidden icons to another taskbar on another screen nor the time, so when you play games you cant see the time or your temps
True i have Always used It on top. They should separate the new dock with the task bar. So you can put One on top and the latter at Botton like many os guis like Mac or Gnome
I was contemplating doing the update, but after watching this, I'm gonna stick with Windows 10 for the foreseeable future.. Besides, wasn't Windows 10 supposed to be the last OS? and wasn't it supposed to be modular so it could be supported for years to come? And while I haven't had any real complaints with 10, nothing will ever top how awesome 7 was for me!
@@twistedtempo200 more like 6yrs And Win10 was supposed to be it, the last OS so you wouldn't have to keep upgrading swapping OS Windows 10 was supposed to just improve and be the ultimate OS
@@whyioughta178 after it updated you had 10 days to go back...it even lets you know in Windows update. Just say you don't use your computer much or for everything except playing games
I've been daily driving Windows 11 for work (SysAdmin) and the most noticeable problem for me is that OneDrive causes explorer to lag massively. The weird thing is if you press F11 to get into full screen mode, the lag disappears. It's like some rendering bug or something.
You must not work in a secure business. The IT at my work (healthcare data) would NEVER adopt an unfinished/untested OS. Huge potential for security nightmares.
Years ago when I used Windows, it was exciting to see it improve with updates and new iterations of the OS because updates mostly fixed bugs and added features. Now though I dread every update because it seems like it gets worse without fail. When you update, you always wonder: "Ok, so what features are they removing this time?" or "I wonder what settings it's going to reset to default again". Rarely do they add something new that is better than something it replaced or even something people wanted.
Man, I believe I have experienced 90% of these bugs up to this point. Thanks LTT for publishing this! I really hope Microsoft fixes these bugs asap. It's such a painful experience on a daily basis.
I encountered all of the ones listed in this video. Still, I like Windows 11, and the weather icon is now on the taskbar since the last update. Wow, product placement in every single chapter!
Some of our FP members have provided us with a couple workarounds for some of these and we wanted to address the certificate expiry. This does help protect against malware, but it shouldn't expire.
You can use a registry edit to disable online search if you're comfortable doing so.
You can still make offline accounts by removing your internet connection after you reach the account creation page, go back and open that page again, then once it's created reconnect your internet.
Another alternative is to type in only one letter when asked for your email and password, apparently the setup will prompt you that something went wrong and you'll then be able to make an offline account.
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What do i say this early? Free pc?
Or uninstall windows and install linux
still not worth upgrading to windows 11 if you have to follow workarounds
Linus why are you so enthusiastic at the beginning
It drives me absolutely insane that Window's start menu search uses web results. If I WANTED to search the web, I would've opened a browser. I hate this feature with a passion in windows 10.
Especially with them trying to break third party programs that work around this
It's like two different sections of the company working against each other.
TRY EDGE YOU MAY LIKE IT!
NO DONT LISTEN TO THEM, USE THE NEW SEARCH BAR WITH BING RESULTS!
You know what was great? Vista had the option to show you your local files, and then web results if you wanted! I don't know why Microsoft insists on making every version worse than the last.
Microsh*t is satan worshipper. So they always insist and persuade their crappy ideas and their products, apps upon us. Forcing edge browser, hard to make our desired apps default, are not acceptable and it's not fair. Governments should cripple MS for forcing childish things upon us. I hope third party like stardock will give us their software for patching w11, and we will get reg hacks to position taskbar and context menu on the internet for upcoming years. MS showed their satanic face in Windows 10 already, which is, if you associate media files from inside your favorite media player then that media player won't become default, but on Windows 7 it worked perfectly. Same goes for all file types.
I just use a firewall and block that and then it won't search or do anything like that
I remember when I was excited to see new versions of Windows, now I'm just terrified how much more buggy it will be
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Windows peaked with windows 7
Yes because new Windows versions werent buggy before. Cough Vista cough me
My main issue is the lack of customization.
You can barely customize the start menu, can't change the start menu, can't remove the recommended section, can't move the taskbar, can't resize taskbar icons and the new ricght click menu is horrible.
I've been using W11 for a few months now since the early dev channel days and literally nothing has changed or improved since then.
The sad thing is that all of that can be fixed instantly with third party software like start11, but that really shouldn't even be required and that all of it worked perfectly fine in W10.
Exactly that’s why I’m not touching Win11 for a long time
They took away the never combine option that gives you text descriptions and it ruins my workflow. Everything takes soooo much more time.
Exactly why I moved to Linux years ago and never looked back. :)
@@terminalvelocity4858 It's not free of it's own issues let's be honest.
That’s why I’m using Linux!
My suspicion is that Microsoft prioritises Web results on Search to give them extra hits for Microsoft Bing. They don't want to give you the option to change the priority because it could slightly reduce Bing's market share. It's for the benefit of Microsoft, not the user.
This. Underrated comment.
Same reason Chrome starts becoming unusable with more than 20-30 tabs and their browsing history is garbage: they want you to google the same stuff again and again.
@@JanLe82 am not defending google in any way, but my guy, who tf needs 30 tabs? Even my sister can't open this many when she is working, and sure, there are browsers with better efficiency with their tabs, but those are 30 tabs, wtf. And when it comes to googling, isn't it up to you what you need to search up? The browsing history exists so you can backtrack and check the website you visited again.
Yeah, Bing has replaced Cortana as the most annoying unwanted feature of the Windowsverse. Almost as bad as "Bixby" on Android.
Idk why they even want or need to push bing so much.
Feel like they'd be better suited to improving products in the market they are already the leader in, rather than trying the impossible task of stealing enough of a portion of googles thunder to even matter with the search engine.
The thing I hate most about Windows 11; is that it exists after Microsoft promised Windows 10 would be the last iteration.
They said that it being "modular" they could indefinitely continue to upgrade and improve it as time went on, to support the latest advancements.
In doing it this way, Windows 10 would be the last and only OS you would have to buy.
...and yet here we are.
Amen brother!
Technically windows 11 is just an "upgrade" to windows 10.
It's not an entirely new operating system.
I didn't buy that one bit when I heard the announcement. I did dream that it would be possible, but I figured that there would be 1 or even 2 decades before they announced Win 11. When they made that announcement, my mind interpret that we're not seeing the next version for a very long time.
@Tom's Stuff intentions aren't what make something new. Unless it is composed of a majority of new parts, it is just the same old thing with a few new parts tacked onto it.
Put it this way, you buy a 1969 camaro. You put a new transmission in it, rebuild the engine, and upgrade the suspension and tires. Is it now a "new" car? Or is it just the same old car but with some new parts?
You certainly can't call it a 2021 camaro, which is actually a new car. A car that shares zero parts with the 1969 camaro.
@Tom's Stuff yep that we have to get used come on people this isn’t new we been down this road before with all the windows
So many new additions feel like anti-QOL features. Microsoft seems to hire people with odd definitions of 'user friendly'.
Its about the LOOK of it being user friendly not accually being user friendly
It's even worse with their corporate tools. 365 is a total mess with you having to go to half a dozen different sites to do things, some of them not discoverable. At least, I found out about them through "How do I accomplish X" searching. Everything changes all the time, like on a near daily or weekly basis, and every interface constantly has "new" and "old" versions, with the "old" one being what was the "new" interface a few months ago. Even their in-house documentation is constantly out of date, referencing things that have been moved or removed since the document was written. Anything with a date stamp more than a few months ago is unreliable.
The problem with the world today is most people being hired in at these companies don't understand 'user friendly' or 'QOL features'. They seem to be going for the Apple mindset of "less is more" which, when done correctly, can be a good thing. The people working on this want something shiny and flashy, not practical.
Where I work, we have kiosks for placing online orders in the store. I recently found out that the touch screen is not a touch screen at all. Instead it has a built in mic that "listens" for a tap to register an input. This explains why it's easier to type with the cap of a pen than it is with your finger.
Mate. Windows 3.1 was user-friendly..
Amiga 600 had more user-friendly software..
This update is crap..
I have 12 family members computers that aren't happy with the Windows 11 update..
Those lucky to have their Windows 10 backup. Fixed. Those without backup, back to Windows 10 and start anew.. lost bucket load of stuff.. hint? Backup your computer regularly... not to cloud, actual external drive..
@@cujoedaman its probably a resistive touch-screen
The most annoying thing for me is how the Internet, Wifi, and Battery Icons are now one button, which opens up a menu with way more options than you needed. It would be better if each icon had their own individual function instead.
"Lazy tech era" I mean no more creative like Windows 98 or Windows 7.
@A Campbell I didn't revert back to Windows 10, I just got the startallback11 program, which not only gives back win10 UI, but eliminates internet search results from the search function, which I'm happy about. I'd say with some tweaking, win11 is perfectly usable, though i miss not having to do any of that at all with win10.
@@ceasormayhem101 replying here so ill remember to install that savior program u mentioned
i think its cool😃
windows 11 keeps ruining the copy and paste
There was never a major need to create a new OS design (11), each windows 8.1 or 10 'major update' was always a new OS revamp. They could have concentrated on fixing security issues, adding more customisation to keep users happy, and reducing the amount of bloated features many won't use that do little but kill off third party competition
This 100%.
Believe it or not, at one point, Microsoft said that windows 10 would be their last OS
@@hebrux I remember that. So whence W11 came from then?
@@hemidas Probably from Marketing, not Tech.
@@hebruxIt did last about 10 years though. Far longer than previous versions.
I see positive thing here that Linus started talking about minuses of software. He showed what's wrong with Linux, now what's wrong with Windows. Channel is big enough that software developers could pay attention to this. This may lead to producing better and more refined software (either its made by companies, either it's open source). These types of videos I really like :)
If windows is as painful as Linux that's really saying something lol. (I say this as a Linux and windows user)
Believe me, Software devs had no input on any windows 11 features…
I don't think you know how product development at such a company works - It's most likely not that they don't know, but it's more of a resources and priority thing
@@liamkearn well, who does then? A 5 year old crayola eater?
@@mr2octavio Nope, designers, project managers, QA (if they had any), people who write TH-cam comments with crayolas like me :).
Seriously the design language of windows 11 does not come from a developer and if you think it does you’re a fool. Extra nested context menus, removing/hiding a lot of power user features. Reworking the UI to this scale. It’s a very clearly design driven decision.
One of the biggest pains for me is having to open the settings for the volume mixer, it used to be so easy to access it. Why did they need to complicate it.
Is creating a shortcut for it not a viable workaround in Win 11? I don't have 11, so I'm not sure what is or is not an option, but just thinking what might be a solution that would create a more pleasant experience, if you're stuck with 11.
@@Nabiyah1 the problem is that the volume mixer is way more convoluted than it used to be. It's a whole page in the PC settings instead of being just a small window, how it always was in windows 7, 8 and 10. It might be a small thing for some people, but this personally really bothers me
It is inthe shortcut but it opens up the settings instead of the small windows how it was in prevoius windows versions
gosh if thats your biggest pain then you really have it easy. its still a click away.
@@petarmatovic7861 I can deal with the occasional bug, i know those arent features of windows 11 and will be ironed out. But this mixer stuff is just a clunky attempt at a completely unnecessary redesign. I use the mixer quite a lot, that's why I care.
One click away doesn't justify awful design and execution
@@Teivy I'll try looking around. I seriously doubt it though
When Windows 8/8.1 were out, I kept using Windows 7 thanks to it's solid stability and high performance in games. I think I'm going to do the same thing with Windows 11. Windows 10 is staying on my PC for a few years, especially since I have an AMD CPU.
Same here, Windows 11 (atleast its current build) is not going on my ryzen powered pc
I used 8.1 for a long time and found it more stable than 7. I won't be switching to 11 until they fix the ryzen issues though
I had a copy of Windows 7 Enterprise Trial running with a scheduled task to abort the 2h trial shutdown mechanism well in the 8.1 years. Seriously, 7 was such a great OS.
Honestly, it ain't working half bad on AMD CPUs, I have 3600XT and it seems to be working pretty good. There are some problems but it's good for the most part
_"This year we put a twelve on the box."_
I'm predicting that Win 11 will be like vista/8 ect. Every other one is a miss, so i'll wait for Win 12
Removal of folder thumbnail previews for images and videos was a deal breaker for me. And despite a fix being released to easily change the default browser, setting defaults for picture viewers, video players, etc is still a pain.
Oh and let's not forget that MS got so obsessed over requiring a MS account to set up Windows 11 home that they forgot the possible scenario of a computer having no network adapters (or missing network adapter drivers). In that case, it's just a dead end at the connect screen as there are no networks to choose and you can't click next (there is a workaround).
so true
im going through this now. whats the workaround?
@@AquaLady153 In the "Let's connect you to a network" screen, press Shift+F10 to launch cmd;
Type the following command: OOBE\BYPASSNRO
After successful execution, the system will restart and restart the OOBE session box, when you reach the "Let's connect you to a network" screen, click "I don't have Internet", continue to click "limited setup", accept the license agreement and continue to create a local user account.
If you've previously given it an internet connection you will need to restart the install from the beginning.
My nitpick: You can't make the taskbar smaller. It's stuck at the default size, and while you can use regedit to make it appear smaller, doing so breaks it and causes it to act as if it's larger than normal, defeating the purpose of the smaller taskbar.
Yeah and the default size is HUGE
people should stop referring to legitimate complaints as "nitpicks" that makes it sound like it's not an issue that needs fixing.
@@windhelmguard5295 This! Reducing usable screen space, especially for "static" elements like a task bar... pretty big UI/UX issue.
Not a nitpick. It's a BIG issue. The taskbar height is HUGE especially if you're on a laptop. I thought the notch on the MBP was bad but jesus just a big fat bar of unusable space.
I can't remember exactly how I did it, but I lowered the icon size and the taskbar got smaller. It's still bigger than I like, but smaller than default. I also went from the default 150% scaling to 125%, and that seemed to help as well.
One of the changes that never really made sense to me, even in it's beta stages, is that one can no longer DRAG AND DROP files into the taskbar to pin them or even drop them into a program running. And I was suprised to notice that it made into the final version.
You can drop them on apps? How? I only ever get it to pin (I don't even get what pinning is good for) but just dropping a text file on sublime in the taskbar to open it? nope
@@chaosmagican you can try it with Chrome in windows 10, but hovering over chrome usually brings up the windows yeah? Well you can't do that with another app dragging over it, whereas you could before. Really annoying when you want to drag JPG's or something.
@@ICCUWANSIUT Hmm I just realized that you can hold shift while dragging to change from a "pin to" to a "open with" (on Windows 10). I needed this information like 5 years ago :D Maybe some alteration key works on 11? shift, alt, ctrl, something?
@@ICCUWANSIUT It really pisses me off that I cant drag my photos since literally that's what I've always used and it's really convenient.
Bro, I just want to drag my media from my desktop into my editing software on my taskbar. Before, I could just drag the file onto "over" the software icon on the taskbar when I had the software open, and the software window would just maximize on it's own and I could just drop my media into the software. Now, I have to put my software in windowed mode, remember where exactly I had my file on my desktop so that I can drag my software out of bounds just enough to where I can see the file and drag it into the software window. Sometimes I don't even remember the exact place I have my file on my desktop, I have to drag my software around in windowed mode all over my screen, hunting for my file. Or I'll just outright minimize everything, find my file, put it on the edge of my desktop so I can then open my software again, put it in windowed mode and drag it to the side, exposing my file icon just enough so I can drag it. W T F!???????
This is why I am sticking to Windows 10 for the first few months. I remember I was in elementary school when Windows 10 came out, and my teacher didn't update the school computers for a couple years until after its release because, "New operating systems always have bugs". She knew hardly anything about technology, but what she said then is still true today.
She learned with Windows 98, and 2000, and Me, and XP, and Vista...
Early adopters are beta testers. Windows 10 has like another 5 years. So unless win 11 becomes necessary for me. Like needing if for specific software, i dont see my self upgrading for a long time
I remember XP to Vista lmao
@@bloodofthelamb13 me too, damn I feel old now
The latest you will have to move to Win11 is June 2023, but you would have to be on the latest version of Win10 or they force update you straight to 11.
You need to do another one of these, especially after they've been hacked through remote login which they did not take seriously, forcing the elimination of hdds even performance ones meant for gaming, and requiring secure boot so that you can never use Linux on the computer that you own, not them. Also might address being forced to create a Microsoft account. When you do it, I hope you address some of these issues instead of the nitty-gritty.
My issue is with the taskbar icons, they removed the “never combine” option, so now it’s much harder to multitask. It’s like playing hide and seek trying to find the window I had just used.
Does Alt-Tab not work? (I've never used W11 I genuinely don't know.)
Honestly, this is the biggest thing keeping me from updating.
Agree, this is my biggest and really only issue. But it's huge. Anthony suggested StartAllBack to fix this I believe?
@@Haloruler64 Ηere we go again. I did something similar when Window 8 came out. I didn't expect I will need again a similar utility to make my life easier.
This so much
The biggest problem I'm experiencing with current applications, it over-simplicity. I want to have more control over my stuff, not less.
If companies like MS are concerned about less tech savvy users (which would be more reasonable decade ago), they could make two profiles: user friendly and advanced.
Guessing what user MIGHT need, is not the way to go, and unfortunately that problem goes with more applications, not only Windows 11.
In my workplace, all my peers blame this on apple.
I can sense that windows is just 3 editions away from getting rid of file explorer and introducing their version of "finder"
The problem with that is that everyone think they are super tech-savy when they really aren't.
100% agree. I think all operating systems should have this User Friendly and Advanced mode, like Android, Windows, Linux, etc.
@@xaleksas One thing I do not like about the Dolphin File Explorer is that there is no "root" (admin) privilege option at all. I understand that this might be problematic for Non-Tech-savvy, but for Power-User this should be at least optional
Thuking thuk off
I'm surprised that with these kind of bugs Windows 11 is actually released. I think it should still be in beta.
The gameindustry taught them, that it's ok to call early access a full release 🤣
I don't think you'll ever get the widespread usage feedback from "beta". You get some stuff from enthusiasts and early adopters, but that skews the data quite a bit towards non-typical usage. Windows 11 works well enough to be in production. The car still runs even if the cup holder is missing and the wipers are on backwards.
@@DuyNguyen-yx2vd That's why you have beta testing staff that find and report these bugs so they can be fixed before the release!
Oh, right: Microsoft fired their entire beta testing department in 2016, right when they started the "Microsoft Insider" program and also started pushing forced updates early to a small random group of users and waiting a few weeks for complaints & bug reports before rolling it out to everyone!
Unacceptable!
I must say that I hate this term, but if you fancy *paying* a multi-billion dollar company your money so you can bugtest their software for them, I can't help but say you're a smoothbrain if I've ever seen one!
What's at all surprising about a new windows build being buggy? Did you forget.... everything.... already?
It is you are the beta testers
My first gripes going from W10 to W11(22H2):
- Start menu: grouping tiles in W10 was a good thing, as it was a good thing that we cloud resize the area, in W11 it is unorganized and limited in space -- getting to the right app takes longer
- Desktop toolbar: the menu worked well as an alternative to the start menu (organizing the links in directories so that they would appear as a tree-view), now the latter is worse and the former is missing!
- Storage pool: why doesn't it report the SN of the disks as it did in W10? It is an essential part of making sure I am removing the one drive I intend to remove. Supposedly it should report it in the disk properties, but a) it doesn't show the information (is it a bug? the label is there, but the field is empty! or is it just my PC?), b) it should have this information in the disk list view!
Windows Vista solved the corner grabbing issue in an interesting way: with transparent borders.
The borders were large enough you could grab them, but being transparent they didn't look "heavy".
This was a deliberate design choice. It was an artistic solution to a practical problem.
I'm not quite sure what Linus is talking about, I have no problem at all mousing over corners to get the resize arrows. Then again, I don't run at 4K+ where pixel perfect precision is a difficult thing to achieve.
I'm fairly certain it's illegal to use "Vista" , "Solved" & "Issue" In the same sentence............shit I can hear sirens.....
@@SqueakyBe lmao yeah, Vista was a trainwreck for other reasons
@@Mr.Morden I see. I won't be trying 11 any time soon, so I just took his word for it
@@Mr.Morden But if they ask you to make a Microsoft account or to pay extra for the Pro version, to not be able to open links in the default Web Browser unless it's Edge so they can spy on you... that's embarassing even for Microsoft.
To me Windows 11 feels more like a begar and overspied Windows 10. Such few features for so much extra hardware requirements. Why would it need 4GB of RAM when Win10 only needs 2?
You can actually bypass the MS account sign in. You just need to fail a sign in, I usually just put "a" in the account name and password fields to clear it. It redirects you to creating a local account right after.
Really?
Wow lol
I'm happy it's still included, but them shoving an online account down my throat as well as edge pisses me off so damn much
easier just disconnect from the internet. If there is no internet, you cant sign in. That is what I did.
You can actually disconnect from the internet to bypass the sign in. It works anytime.
@@cheddar07 Yeah, I had to do this for the full install process for Win10 on my 2011 iMac, because it would brick itself if it tried to get drivers automatically. I did the whole install with ethernet disconnected and refused to give it the WiFi password, then used group policy editor to bar it from getting its own drivers AND had to download drivers via another computer to bring them over via USB stick before it would finally give up and just use the drivers I supplied.
Here's my gripe to add to the list: changing your sound mixing used to be a tiny, easy window in the bottom right. Now it opens up the full settings menu!
I'd also like the sound mixer back, but i do prefer all those system icons as a group even if it is an extra click.
a useless one at that u have to go through 3 menus to get to any of the non useless settings
Yeah, fuck that stupid shit. Give me my tiny but intuitive mixer back!
And even in this full screen app, the slider aren't at the same length some times.
volume standard hot keys should become a thing.
You forgot to mention that Win11 is doing even more data gathering (aka. Telemetry) and Win11 now requires you to to have TPM and Bit-locker enabled allowing Microsoft to ransomware you by encrypting your computer via a windows update or a certificate failure if they don't like what they saw when snooping on your PC via telemetry or do something they dislike with the Microsoft Account you are required to use to log into windows with.
Every good software has telemetry. I don't get why people are freaking out over it so much. Developers need some telemetry to know how users are using their apps, which features are popular and which aren't, what versions people are using etc.
Windows 7 telemetry sent to microsoft is literally why W8 lacked a start button
I suppose Windows is the perfect gaming OS then. Promises a lot, but releases before the bugs are worked out and isn't really fit for use until a year or two after release.
Windows 10 is STILL unfit for use.
Isn't all software like this. My most recent is Android 12 on my pixel, it's full of bugs.
@@randymarshole linux is unironically better, and even with it's problems at least it's free and doesnt support the great satan that is microshaft.
@@adamofblastworks1517 lmao fax too many bs that we didnt need to use.
tbh this isnt knews. the rule has always been: wait until after sp1. i know they dont use that update scheme anymore, but i guess maybe after feature update 1 ? im gonna stay on w10 for a while.
As a developer, I cannot believe how all these small issues and design flaws make it through quality control and into such a major release - how they even leave the developer’s PC.
I mean, Microsoft really has talented people and surely some of the best developers out there, but how can something like this happen?
Windows has no QC anymore since 2014. Insiders are the QC along with virtual machines
Their management, their QA team is way smaller than it used to be, they lay off bunch of QA team back around Windows 8.1, before Windows 10 which seems to explain why the buggies of Windows 10 when it release. They also really rushing this for holiday season while this new Windows 11 UX is still fairly new, maybe 6 months or less, at least it was like 3 months for Insiders to test new Windows 11 UI and features, very short.
There interested in only making money and they don't care how they go about to get it including releasing a much up hype OS only for it to have so many bugs.
What they put out is the proof of their capabilities. If they release shit then they are shit.
Why don't you ask my good friend Windows 10?
"If it ain't broken, try to fix it, fail miserably."
- Microsoft, 2021
+ “break other important things”
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Microsoft since 2012 basically
More like "If it ain't broken, break it so you have something to fix"
Probably my biggest annoyance is that you can no longer set system tray icons to 'Display All'. If you want them all displayed, you have to check each one individually, and then go back into the menu every time there's a new one and toggle it on.
Fun fact: Auto HDR will come to Windows 10. It's currently only available in builds accessible after joining the insider program.
that doesn't sound fun if it's as broken as it is in 11 :(
Then what's the point in 11? We'll probably all stick to 10
Where's the fun in that fact?
@@btarg1 Until Windows 10 no longer have security updates.
yeah.... i'm sticking to 10 for now. no thanks microsoft.
This is why I, as a software developer, always wait one year to use software.
When Microsoft Word launched, it had over 100,000 known issues.
With ms being shit nowadays, I'd say 2 or 3 years.
Yeah, and a lot of them stay with newer releases.
@@ktkace ms being shit nowadays? where have you been the last 25 years? I mean Windows 98 - first edition, Win Me, Vista, 8.0 and oll other Windows' which became good after years of patching (98SE,XP,7,10). (Excluding 3.x as they were just an UI above DOS)
What was the importance of mentioning you're a software developer? Lmao. Non software developers do the same thing too.
i don't need to be an software engineer to know it's better to wait an extra year.. 😏
Windows 10 is going to be similar to how I upgraded when I had Windows 7 for me. Meaning that I'll skip Windows 11 till a Windows 12 comes out just like I skipped Windows 8 when I had Windows 7. They'd have to seriously redo many of their design choices for me to even consider it.
Yeah, I think version skipping has been a good idea for quite a while.
XP? Yes.
Vista? No.
7? Yes.
8? Hell no.
10? Yes.
windows 8.1 wasn't bad to be honest. I used that for about 8 years. Very stable OS.
@@BodomsScythe its weird how i accidentally miss the bad versions everytime
@Mister Lau There’s always that one guy
They just need to stop supporting the OS and then you'll have to consider it lol
It would be nice to have the ability to just swap between versions in the sense of design. Like you can have all the advanced features of windows 11, but if you want you can swap to the layout of windows 7, or xp, or 10 or 8 etc
You can do this by picking which flavour of Linux you use.
@@endezeichengrimm Ah yes, I was raised with linux so that brings some nostalgia, supertux was top tier lol
Problem is there's still a lot of inherent bloat to Windows 10 and 11, unless you're using LTSC.
That would be cool.
@@endezeichengrimm the problem with Linux is that it's too complex for your avarge user most people don't know how to code
For me. The most annoying issue I have experience is "small taskbar" was removed.
Before upgrading, everyone was stating that ability to move it to the sides or to the top was removed but no mention of other features.
For me, I dont like the thick taskbar that windows 7 added and in 8, they added the option for "small taskbar" which shinks it down to slightly bigger then xp/vista height which is great .... But windows 11 says I must have my taskbar thick. Hate the look
Small taskbar was also available in windows 7 too not just in 8. And now they removed it too in windows 11
The taskbar is my biggest complaint about window’s 11.
I support this, i really like the option to make your taskbar smaller so that you can fit more things on your main screen and not be bothered by a big sized taskbar
Microsh*t is satan worshipper. So they always insist and persuade their crappy ideas and their products, apps upon us. Forcing edge browser, hard to make our desired apps default, are not acceptable and it's not fair. Governments should cripple MS for forcing childish things upon us. I hope third party like stardock will give us their software for patching w11, and we will get reg hacks to position taskbar and context menu on the internet for upcoming years. MS showed their satanic face in Windows 10 already, which is, if you associate media files from inside your favorite media player then that media player won't become default, but on Windows 7 it worked perfectly. Same goes for all file types.
Yeah, the most thing I hate in W11 is the thick taskbar. It's really bad.
The dev team is out of touch. They are adding features and 'improving' (depending on whom you ask) the aesthetics. But no one seems to be asking the simple question - Is it easier this way, or harder? The same thing is affecting MS Office too. Things that took 2 or 3 keystrokes back in 2003, are now taking 4 or 5 keystrokes in 2021. Why? We expect new features and upgrades, but the core heavy-use items should always be easiest to find and use.
Agreed fully with the other complaints. Not rushing to Windows 11.
Microsoft needs to follow the idea if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Windows 11 is currently a disaster. Windows 10 probably can last for another 10 years. To be fair I have no idea what Windows 11 added, beside security updates, that makes upgrading worth it. We'll probably have to wait 1-2 years before Windows 11 is stable.
MS is following the google/android path and making everything apple-esque. Everything needs to have a big panel with big icons and settings page with 300 more buttons to look at.
@@coolwin7710 Windows 12 will be lit though!! I always feel a bit conflicted - Should we avoid it until they fix most of the bugs, or should we get in early and file our own complaints in hopes that they listen?
I LOATH THE NEWER OFFICE 365! I still use Libre Office or Open Office.
Devs have nothing to do with it, it's their really bad interaction design (IX/UI/UX) team...
When in a full-screen game, Explorer often crashes every 10 seconds or so. It's extremely annoying, especially considering half the time it minimizes the game window.
Glad I never had issues like that
Microsh*t is satan worshipper. So they always insist and persuade their crappy ideas and their products, apps upon us. Forcing edge browser, hard to make our desired apps default, are not acceptable and it's not fair. Governments should cripple MS for forcing childish things upon us. I hope third party like stardock will give us their software for patching w11, and we will get reg hacks to position taskbar and context menu on the internet for upcoming years. MS showed their satanic face in Windows 10 already, which is, if you associate media files from inside your favorite media player then that media player won't become default, but on Windows 7 it worked perfectly. Same goes for all file types.
Here's an update on the problems brought up in the video as of December 2023 (correct me if I'm wrong on some of this stuff):
Certificate expiry bug - Fix released during and after the video was published
Local account creation - Same now as when the video was published.
Driver downgrading - Still apparently an issue (can't recreate this myself however).
File Explorer crashing - Microsoft is apparently (slowly) working to fix the file explorer crashing/performance issues, but it is still a problem.
Weather display on the taskbar - Same now as when the video was published.
Taskbar right-click menu - Only change to the right-click menu was the reimplementation of the option to bring up the Task Manager, no other additions to the taskbar right-click menu besides that occurred.
Taskbar clock display on multiple monitors - Reimplemented via an update since the video was published.
Gaming issues - Can't verify if any of the gaming issues brought up in the video still occur myself, but I assume at least most of the issues brought up in the video are fixed by now.
Window scaling issues - Can't verify if this still happens (don't have a multi-monitor setup)
Update Assistant issues - Presumably fixed at this point.
Taskbar overflow icons - I can't recreate the issue where you can't right-click on overflow icons in the taskbar as demonstrated in the video myself, so it must've been fixed at some point(?).
UI:
- Windows are still hard to resize (no changes since the video was published).
- No real changes to the right-click menu on the desktop since the video was published.
- Start menu is still functionally the same since the video was published (it did have some minor changes, but doesn't address the core problems mentioned in the video)
- Search is functionally the same as when the video was published.
Windows 11 introduces a lot of cool features, like the additional window tiling options, and then makes weird design choices. I'd prefer Windows 10 start menu tiles to a separate widgets panel, or at least allow it on desktop a la Rainmeter. What's this design trend for complete minimalism and hiding every single option beneath a billion menus requiring a billion clicks?
They tried to be more Apple. (Let's think, who always had taskbar icons in the middle?)
@@Xsses Oh oh, ChromeOS! Or do you mean one of the many linux flavors that uses centered icons in the dock?
this idea that "everyones copying apple" is hilarious to me. It's called a design trend, and its because the design is popular.
@@MGosling94 I wonder what OS are you using, lol
And btw, Apple is doing that since 2001. You would have to wait 10 years for Chrome OS to do that and many years for Linux DEs to do that. They started the trend, which basically means that everyone is copying them.
@@Xsses Or, surprise, its a trend because its a good design choice for most people.
"I bet you like windows 11" is a pretty terrible rebuttal. Stop worrying about people copying apple. We learn from the success of others, that's art and any other industry. Applies to UX design as well.
The people designing every option to be hidden beneath a billion menus requiring a billion clicks is probably the same people designing car dashboards with no physical buttons.
The worst feature they removed is the ability to drag files onto the taskbar, which used to un-minimize the program so you could drag the file into the program.
My job makes this feature absolutely irreplaceable and if my company updates to 11, I'm going to go insane.
They added it back
@@crawlzzz They added it back so you don't have to worry anymore.
Going from Mac to windows - this is mind boggling to me, also not having a recent paths/folders list handy drives me insane, I’m so sick of having to copy/paste every path I need!
They didn’t add it back entirely, it only works for pinnable items, eg you can’t pin a folder without jumping through hoops (make a desktop shortcut, add explorer to the path, drag to taskbar) and you can’t pin a file - it just opens the folder with the file instead of running it.
Imaging an alternate universe where microsoft listened to consumers and this was "11 things we LOVE about windows 11."
1. My machine doesn't support it
Evil Linus be like
1letter is 8 bits. Why not don't use letter instead? Which takes 8 bits/letter.
Or better great idea is write your code in c, cpp and convert it into liter code by a software which is 1letter = 1bit. Then, put into hardware. That's seems a great idea.
First Microsoft has made windows open source
you are in wrong channel, mr linus always talk trash about Microsoft =)))
Here's the 1 year update (with 22H2):
1. Fixed it with day one patch one year ago.
2. They made it even worse: even if you're running the pro version, you are "forced" to connect to the internet and to sign in to a Microsoft account (unless you press Shift+F10 and type OOBE\BYPASSNRO)
3. This depends with the OEMs actually. If it's a new Windows 11 device, you'll have no problems. Otherwise, especially if your brand doesn't update your drivers anymore, Windows Update will still install the older, Windows 10 drivers.
4. They fixed it months ago, thankfully, but the only feature missing is to disable the "hover to open" option.
4.5. Fixed it with this month's preview update, adding "Task Manager" to the taskbar context menu. Also, the other options were useless aside from task manager. As for the clock on multiple monitors, they added it months ago.
5. Problem fixed, but not entirely if you didn't install the AMD chipset drivers (don't depend on Windows Update)
6. Unfortunately that problem is not fixed, and maybe Windows 10 has that too.
7. These errors should be fixed in less than a year. Didn't try it yet as I'm always clean-installing Windows at least once every year.
8. Thankfully it works now. Didn't try it during a game yet.
9. (seven eight nine)
10. They somehow made it easier to grab from the corner, but your mileage may vary.
10.5. Unfortunately it still exists. Maybe because not all the options are implemented from the legacy context menu, but the desktop one already has all of them since day one. Strange.
11. The start menu now can have more pinned apps or recommendations, and now you can create forders, but still, you can't remove the recommended tab entirely and it's still far from the customizable Windows 10 start menu. As for searching, now it feels consistent switching from it.
11.5. That web search, which of course, it forces you to use Edge and Bing no matter what browser or search engine you're using by default, can be disabled with a registry key or with a tweaking program, but even if you don't do this, it's still better than Windows 10.
TLDR, thanks to these fixes, it should be this month the actual release (RTM) of Windows 11 instead of rushing it because Intel wants to beat AMD in every single possible way, but now, combined with the absurd system requirements aimed for security, Windows 11 will be less popular than Windows 10, at least before its end of support in 2025.
I can add another annoyance: If you enable hide taskbar, your sytem tray might not load on boot. To get it back, you either have to disable and reenable hide taskbar or restart the explorer.
Also, some windows lag terribly when being dragged accross the desktop.
Glad I'm not the only one having that taskbar issue.
Actually had to go back to windows 10 to verify a broken GPU and I'm finding it much friendlier. And I don't think it's comfortability with the OS that's causing that, since windows 11 was pretty simple for me. Just too many bad decisions, I feel.
At boot the Taskbar delays for 30 seconds to show up. its becoming annoying and Start menu hanging up. So went back to windows 10.
Almost by accident, I found another method of getting the systray to show up again. Change your multi-monitor config by pressing Win+P, then change it back. I think that the systray not loading is somehow connected to the problem Linus described when using multiple monitors.
It still amazes me how probably the largest most influential tech company of all time can spend SO LONG on every OS they release, and still manage to have a laundry list of problems with it EVERY....SINGLE....TIME.
It's a reflection on how huge operating system code is. And while a software engineer can test the shit out of the various pieces, the real test of any software is when it goes out into the world.,
If you're comparing Windows to Mac or Linux here, it's not quite fair. Windows is compatible with 100x the hardware. It's much easier to code an OS when you know exactly what hardware to expect like Mac. And Linux is notoriously bad for hardware compatibility.
@@kaldo_kaldo That statement is patently false. MacOS does definitely have the benefit of a low amount of hardware support, but the hardware support for Linux completely dwarfs what Windows has. This is because Linux is open source, so anyone can contribute drivers for their incredibly niche or random old device into the kernel. In terms of official drivers included in the main-line kernel, Linux generally gets support for new hardware just a little later than Windows, but it has a much more vast support for many older hardware configurations and uncommon hardware.
Windows definitely has faster hardware support, but usually involves you downloading drivers that may or may not still be hosted online, whereas Linux has hardware support for nearly everything built into the kernel itself.
@@aviroblox6624 I guess a more accurate statement is that Windows supports anything you have unless you're a tech hoarder while it's a complete crapshoot as to if the linux distro you're using will support your peripheral from 5 years ago.
Yeah it's fully capable of doing so because it's open source, but that doesn't mean it does. And if it does on your distro that doesn't mean it's working on another distro.
Linux is great for supporting some thing bought by 5 people 30 years ago - Windows isn't going to support that.
In terms of technology, Microsoft isn't influential. They haven't invented any of the major tech we use. Microsoft's only succeeded because IBM didn't ask for ownership of MS-DOS. P.S. The rounded corners of the windows on my Mac work well 😀😉
I finally tried it when I bought my first system that could actually run it (I use my PCs for a long time). I haven't really used it much because right away I found something that will NEVER stop to annoy me, is driving me to distraction: One can't deactivate the grouping of items in the taskbar. It is a small thing compared to what you brought up in the video, but it just annoys me so much that I will never use win11 until they fix it.
Also, my system sometimes doesn't shut down, it goes to a weird sleep mode, that still drains battery, instead. And so I regularly return to a laptop with empty battery.
As someone frequently moving large data folder to folder, the stability of Explorer in the modern day is unacceptable. Blows my mind that the base structure of an operating system can break so frequently.
Not to mention that people have asked for tabs in Explorer forever. It's absurd that we still have to use 3rd party programs to get tabs. Also i hate that Explorer does not show folder sizes in a column. I have to hover over each folder to see their size.
@@Raivo_K Dunno about windows 11. But in Windows 10, you had to go into a menu to show that column.
Check your SSD for corruption issues, I have not had an issue for 12 years of using the file explorer.
Let's be fair, the core of the OS is another rehash of Windows Vista.
@@superstar64 Well, uh... No. Vista may have had a very rocky launch but it ALSO had a good excuse of shipping with a FUCKTON of new features and much more native support for newer hardware. Vista was painful, but it needed to happen. Windows 11 on the other hand... ? Like, even IF it didn't have all these issues, why the fuck should I or anyone switch to it? HDR? Support for the newer and (very debatedly) better hybrid Intel chips? That's literally all I can think of. Everything else Windows 11 offers is either a bugfix of 10 or... Yeah, actually that's about it. Fucking bugfixes that we should have gotten in 10 but Microsoft didn't give a fuck.
And while we're talking about all this, WHY IS IT THAT WE STILL CAN'T TURN OFF AUTOMATIC UPDATES? Fuck off, Microsoft.
Does no one else find that, "dragging some file from one window and hovering over a minimized application at the taskbar to unminimize it and release the file in that app" being missing, one of the worst things in Win 11?
Agreed
Absolutely
I've always just alt tabbed whilst dragging so I don't find it that annoying but there's a couple of times I'm just working with mouse only and it is an absolute pain!
you can still somewhat use that feature... just click drag the file, press alt+tab, release tab, move the app over to the window where you want to move it (file location) and then just drop it there :)
@@parasar1980 and now do this with only one hand...
God damit microshit. Why did they remove such a simple feature.
For power users it's super annoying, they have literally removed features that already existed on Windows 10 and took the apple approach of make it look good with none of the features you need
Yeah but at least the apple features all work and the menus make more sense 😂 And i'm not a fan of apple. Never thought i would say such a thing in my life, but ms fcked up hard.
At least apple has a much more streamlined approach.
It's like they want us to use a Linux shell just to do anything now
What features are you missing? I haven't spotted any features I can't use now. And making it look good has been a crucial oversight since the beginning of W10, hardly a thing to complain about being probably the most important thing ms have been slacking on for 6 years.
And the worst part is, it doesn't even look good. It looks decent but it should have been a minor overhaul option for Win10. No reason to call it a new OS and force all the other bullshit down people's throat without even hiring a basic UX designer to tell them that their ideas are absolutely idiotic.
2:59 When File Explorer crashes it also gets rid of the whole taskbar including the start menu, it is literally big part of the UI. I know this because manually I restart the program sometimes.
I learned a LONG TIME AGO, even as far back as Windows 98, to NOT upgrade to a new OS in Windows until a year had passed and the majority of the bugs were worked out!
I actually had waited for more than 1 year before updating to Windows 11 this week and it is still so buggy that now I need to uninstall the update
@@nguyenhongphucnguyen6997 Ive still held off, probably wont do it until they give an expiration on the free upgrade from 10.
I keep both versions in separate partitions😁
My rule wasn’t a time period to wait to upgrade. I wait for the first Service Pack. The first service pack usually fixes what was broken and things people complained about most when the OS was released.
At least one year, then manually purge all the garbage, get all the third-party patches and disable auto-updates
There seems to be way too many issues for me to go with windows 11. Looks like I'm sticking with windows 10 for the foreseeable future until all of these things are fixed.
*laughs in non eligible cpu support for W11*
Yup, there was a time when new tech was exciting. Now everything seems to launch in beta/release candidate. Alder Lake, Windows 11, 4K 120 Hz TVs not having VRR support despite advertising it, iOS updates, new iPhones etc. Companies know this and this is why pre-orders are becoming increasingly common.
In 2021 and beyond, no piece of tech is worth buying at launch. Wait for first impressions, initial reviews, final reviews and Review: 3 months later. Then decide whether or not to purchase something once a large number of bugs have been patched/have become public knowledge.
Yeah same. I'm sticking with W10 too
for what its worth, i been on windows 11 and its just fine. windows 11 seems to have this negative hype, like people expect it to be bad, and when one random person has a bug, people make it sound like everyone gets it.
One of the most mind-boggling omissions was removing photo album previews from the folder icons. Going from Win10 to Win11 wasn't as off-putting as the switch from Win7 to Win8.0, but there are so many little idiosyncratic quirks that I'm disappointed it shipped with my new laptop. Dual-booting with Ubuntu (or OpenSuse depending on the machine) and using Windows only when compatibility dictates remains the most accommodating experience, at least for my needs.
Oh yeah that bugged me so much. It's such a little detail but it makes navigation easier and is generally more pleasing to look at over a sea of blank, identical-looking folders. I still find it fairly easy to use for what I want, but there's enough irritating quirks which don't need to be there (forcing certain apps onto my taskbar every time I restart, even after uninstalling them, is another personal "favourite").
If I can't figure out how to revert the new laptop to Windows 10, I honestly might just return it. The first two things I tried to do was customize the size of the taskbar, set chrome as the default browser, use "open in file location" and get rid of the rounded edges. After finding out I can no longer do every single thing I've tried to do, I'm just defeated. I have been trying to figure out how to revert all day. What was supposed to be an awesome new PC experience has become an 8 hr aggravating troubleshoot, and I'm just fed up with it.
Idiosyncratic? Well, that's one new word to my vocabulary
Lifetime windows and android user here. Windows 11 made me switch to Mac. And I had a Dell xps from last year.
After installing the windows 11 that I thought was free and "great", every thing imaginable started happening from sound to graphics to laptop not starting to game freezing for 3-5 seconds mid gaming. Great! Really Great! I deserve this. Its entirely my mistake.
go back if its not been 10 days
You can still go back to windows 10 even if it’s been 10 days. It’s it the recovery option .
I switched back to windows 10 ..
@@griqs too late now :(
@@2eath rip. We'll struggle together. Unfortunately it comes pre installed on my laptop
I also kinda prefer the way windows 10 looked. It overall had a cleaner more advanced look. Windows 11 feels dumbed down and a bit catered towards children now it's less minimalistic in design which Is not a good thing when we're talking about user interface.
@Digby Dooright totally agree
aesthetics are the only thing i prefer about win11 to win10. dont like the os but i have to admit it looks pretty smooth
Win 11 is cleaner. Win10 more advance look.
I installed Win10 2019. Took me like a year to get used to the new none aero look. And now it's time to go back to rounded corners?!? I think I'll wait until 2023 or 24 before I feel forced to switch again.
I hated the windows 10 aesthetic. It was way too geometrical
Microsoft is really consistent, every second release is just plagued with issues. This release looks like some of the steam Unity early access survival/crafting games.
Imagine having such steep requirements for getting a job at Microsoft, yet they can manage to pull such amateur moves like these - consistently at that. I think their steep job requirements is actually just to hold a form of bragging right. I know this happens in many big corpos, like some of them enjoy boasting with the amount of ph.d employees they have, and thus will require a ph.d even for basic positions such as their receptionists (basically meaning the actual qualification for the job of receptionist is valued second to the educational level of the applicant).
Wouldn't surprise me if MS was no different, that they value bragging rights over actual expertise in many fields. That "working at Microsoft" has become the selling point and the main goal of the company, not just to make professional competitive products.
How did they even manage to fuck this up?
I thought they just restyled Windows 10 and did some optimizations, how could this result in myriads of missing and broken features & functionality?! 🧐
you did not know? it's Windows Vista 11 :) same great experience, but YOU become the product. Does not sell it well does it lol
Nah, Windows 10 was broken too. They broke WDM for half of the product's lifespan and WDM is the Windows Desktop Manager, aka, Windows. This was why people with multiple monitors kept having random issues all the time. Windows 11 finally fixed it, which is why theyre billing all that Multimonitor support everywhere, theyre basically bragging they finally fixed that pesky bug that was plaguing them for several years, and decided to roll it into a new OS instead of giving everyone the update. Theres also the shit they kept doing with the Bluetooth and USB stack that caused a bunch of devices to stop working and require driver updates, or whenever Microsoft would totally break HDR support from update to update
@@SAVarXX Man Windows 10 is still broken. Don't give me no BS, its broken. That's why 11 is coming, because they can't excuse it anymore, it's been 11 years they got no excuse. 11 is just MS resetting the "We fked up, sorry let us fix it in these updates" clock.
I think its worth noting how many of these things are actually fixed in versions of windows 11 today
You missed another annoying thing. You can't drag and drop file to opened program in taskbar. (for example to upload file via chrome)
And all folders are now Always Grouped :(
Yess it is fucking annoying especially you are editing
File Drag and Drop is coming for the taskbar.
this is one of those probably incoming features. when win11 first came on the beta channel when you right clicked on the sound icon and clicked volume mixer it use to take you to the settings page you see when you opened setting normally and you had to go system>sound>volume mixer in the settings but a couple updates later you could directly open the volume mixer in settings. it's just like one of those features
@@kaneki1056 @Megane Senpai
Glad to hear that. I really need it.
Microsoft should have never gotten rid of their dedicated QA department, outsourcing your testing to a bunch of Insiders (Windows Early Access Edition) is a fucking joke.
Microsoft should have stuck with XP
Seriously, I don't get how they are not held accoutnable for that. F**k Satya Nadella. He killed Windows tbh.
@@oliverbywaters8893 There are still people with enough rose tint to think XP is still good?
It's very bad in many, many ways.
@@bored78612 How should they be held accountable for that? It’s their product and as long as it’s in the law and their EULA they can do whatever they please
That increased profit, people who MS is accountable to (shareholders) are pleased.
windows 7 for history's sake was my favorite windows so far. loved the simplicity what gamers really only need for maximum cpu and gpu speed even ram usage
Historically every other version of windows is bad. Xp = good, vista = bad, 7 = good, 8 = bad, 10 = good, 11 = bad.
XP is still my absolute favorite windows. I like Windows 10 it’s probably in second place. Vista made me want to throw up. I just don’t see the need to get 11 as it seems like a worse 10. Maybe 12 will be the ticket
@@ObamaPhoneProMax5G Windows 98 was good
@@lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266 Yes. And ME was bad that came after it.
7 is God
3:33 It still does it is in another spot, just right click on the start icon from your taskbar
For those who wondering how to skip the account login during the windows 11 initial setup, hit shift F10 (for cmd) and type taskmgr to open up task manager.
Under Process Tab, look for Network Flow, stop the operation. It will skip the Microsoft account and instead goes to local account page.
MVP. That’s going to save me a lot of hassle in my job, where on-site upgrades on people’s farms often means limited internet connections.
Just don't be connected to your network on initial setup then you'll get option for local account
Actually if you fresh install or buy branded notebook its still ask for it even if you did not wish connect the wifi. In windows 11 you cant skip the wifi page (before user page). So you have to do this method.
No one talks about the removal of "dragging any file to taskbar icon to copy it in that app". In all previous windows dragging a file to a minimized taskbar icon would unminimize the app and we could drop the file in the app. This extremely useful feature is gone and made me return back to win10.
Spot on that should have been part of this video but as you said everyone is ignoring that feature.... It's like the tech reviewers are in on something we are not been made aware of yet
@@damvcoool Tech reviewers are mostly used to multi monitor setup. They don't need to minimize things. They just open different apps in different monitor and drag things across monitor.
At least that's the only logical reason I could come up with.
@@olotocolo bing search...
I see similar trends all over the Microsoft portfolio. For example if you compare One Note 2016 to One Note for Win 10, many useful features have been removed. I'm sure, it's not the developers but the pos who are pulling the strings here, and somehow seem to think reducing features makes a product more modern or equals simplicity, which it does not.
@@ahamuffin4747 it probably has more to do with selling another product than looking simple and modern. One Note for Win10 does not have everything, if you want them buy office 365..
"If it ain't fixed... break it worse!" - microsoft motto
You can't fixed fucked, but you can fixed it 'till it's fucked!
bethesda and EA
@@TheCapitalWanderer "Let me take you back to 1995..."
like trying to hit a nail into a glass window and skipping the frame all together
I heard from somewhere that Microsoft employees focus more on making new features rather than fixing old bugs
A year later and most of these issues have been fixed, I think Microsoft flat out ignored Feedback Hub and went straight to Linus Tech Tips
For Windows, you always have to wait for the first equivalent of "service pack" patches before actually installing it.
Oh and Microsoft can take its Tablet-centric design and stick it.
As someone using it on a Surface Tablet (something made by Microsoft ffs) I can confirm it is not tablet-friendly at all. It has become so much harder to use via touchscreen than Windows 10 was. I'm very very disappointed with this supposedly tablet-centric design.
@@tyrannicpuppy they literally have no idea what to do with the UI. Even Windows 10 sucked without the very precise stylus.
I swear, they're taking elements of mobile just to make it look familiar and then keeping older desktop conventions completely arbitrarily. I don't get it at all. What are they even trying to do anymore? Can't they have a keyboard and mouse interface and a tablet mode? I am using a mouse and am setting up my PC. Just let me open all the settings at once while I check things across multiple Windows. Just don't take it away from me.
@@Jtzkb I personally think that the Windows 7 start menu and Explorer menu bar and Control panel, with everything else from Win10 (snapping, screen division, multiple desktops, ... etc) is the best combination. Win2000 was good, but the start menu wasn't good enough.
@@ShiroKage009 what did 7 not have window snapping? I can swear it did!
@@ShiroKage009 Its the same shit there tired almost 10 years ago with Windows 8 putting a clearly for a Touche screen designed interface as the standard for a Desktop despite the fact that no ones likes it.
My only guess is that there at Microsoft thing that touch controls will eventually become so omni present like Window's own GUI became during the Command line based MSDOS era and there for pushes for it not understanding that Touche screens are for a number of reasons not a improvement or a quality of live enchantment for Desktop use unlike the GUI causing it to never catch on the way there want it to.
I have zero interest upgrading to 11 for the next couple of years, unless something remarkable comes from it. I think many people forget it took MS atleast a year or two until Win10 was worthy. I used Win7 until they decided to bin the OS so all the issues were ironed out, which made the transition pleasant.
For me, Windows 10 took about 4 years to "get there."
And thats why im upgrading to windows xp
Day 1 for me Windows 10 was better than any OS Microsoft, or any other developer for that matter, has ever released. While I don't like some of the stability issues with Explorer in Windows 11, all the rest of the complaints I've found are pretty petty and pointless. Like seriously, the size of the taskbar and Windows Search? To be fair Windows search has NEVER worked and honestly it is an entirely pointless feature.
@@armyofninjas9055 I built my pc in 2017 and windows 10 was terribly sluggish (UI felt like molassas sometimes) and had some weird bugs until around 2 years after it was released.
keep in mind most win 11 videos are super megative to get views. i been just fine on 11
The removal of taskbar labels is by far the biggest mistake of Windows 11. It makes managing multiple instances of the same app almost impossible, because you have to hunt and peck via alt+tab or win+tab rather than just looking at your taskbar. Absolutely unforgivable.
That combined with the removal of "Never combine" taskbar buttons is why I will not switch to Windows 11.
And I could swear its done this way because "hovering" over something wouldn't work on a touch device which this was clearly designed to be for (which also explained the lack of folders in the Start menu and the always double high taskbar)
@@SDMasterYoda Same. If I am ever forced off 10, looks like I will be jumping to Linux.
This mixed with (I don't know if you guys have had this) sometimes if you click on a window it will not bring it to the front makes it SUCH a pain if you are quickly trying to change something on a secondary monitor whilst a full screen application is running
@@SDMasterYoda Thats the one I want back the most. I went through regedit to fix right click at least.
Tip for the account one. If you type in s at the mail and s at the password it reports and error and then let’s you create a local account
You may know that corporations often run out of truly innovative ideas and then fall back to "Make-Work" projects. Windows 10 is perfectly fine and so was Windows 7 but we have truly entered an era of moving icons and functions around while changing color palettes..... and that's all. No innovation, no great new functions, and definately not easier to use. Look, I am engineer and I have a workflow where I get to know where everything is and get into a sweet flow but Microsoft seems to want to sabotage mine and everone elses work in innovation by moving our mice around for us. Microsoft, go stand in the corner and think about what you are doing!
I just love the constant searching for the options that were so easily accessible on Windows 10, it's like a carny ride of fun trying to figure out where the new settings are hidden....
Now compare that to Windows 7 where it took me one second to check my WiFi password on my laptop, now I have to Google it everytime and find hidden settings within settings. I think they like it when we suffer
It's like life hasn't been horrible the past 2 years. Microsoft has found yet another way to make it intolerable 😞
You could check one of the 7 different menus for a whole slew of variations of that option. but there's no guarantee that's the right one
Ever since I think Windows 8, settings have been an absolute shitshow. They seem to be split between two different styles and it’s terribly difficult to find what you actually need.
I work in IT and so far I'm telling all my customers not to upgrade to Windows 11. My advice is wait a couple of years and see what happens, it could get replaced very quickly like Windows 8.0 and 8.1 did. Right now Windows 10 end of support is set for Oct 2025 but I'm willing to bet that will get extended just like Windows 7 did. Newer is not always better!
I really don't think it's as bad as 8.1
exactly
@jo e yeah people act like its a major security and integrity issue. I have some issues that were mentioned in the video but no hard-lock bugs that would make the OS a writeoff. These are issues that MS should have fixed beforehand, but it wont take them years to catch up to a stable and useful release for anyone (exept low-mid end hardware unfortunately)
Windows 7 had 10 years as is normal. Windows 10 will have 10 years just like they clearly stated when it was launched in 2015.
I don’t think it’ll soon get such a huge update like with 8 and 8.1
I have to watch this so I can hate Windows 11 more accurately
Lol
My favorite was the promise before launch that windows 11 would remember the placement of open windows when plugging in a laptop to another monitor. This definitely does not happen. Just moving the open program from an additional monitor back to a laptop skews it so bad it often takes me minutes to reduce the window down to a size just where I can find it on the laptop again. It also fails to show icons in the taskbar on the additional monitor that's connected to the laptop, it just shows these failed spaces.
This was literally the main selling point of windows 11 for me. I hate the flickering and folder and app re-sizing and re-positioning with passion.
Why the f*** can't they just make a power user option where we can lock the displays virtually? So that stupid idiot Windows wouldn't have to guess which display is the primary when one wakes up before another, and rearrange all the s*** everywhere.
Windows could just BELIEVE that yes - the displays still exist until my masterful user tells me they don't. Turn it on at ones own risk. Optimally ofc it could detect whether the display is powered off,sleeping or unplugged completely, but I know that's asking way too much.
Can't believe not being able to move the taskbar to any side and any monitor did not make it onto this list.
And multi monitor upgrades was supposedly a priority for 11.
Clearly you're just like the washed up old dope it's in beta quit comparing something in beta to a full release even if it's made by the same people nobody is making you change OS that's why I unsubscribed his content has fallen into the typical complain with the community content when it's way better then before just some small qol features aren't there which you can't be surprised since it's in beta and not meant for any people who need it to work perfectly or who need such a small useless feature
@@k4g675That's some smoothbrain logic. If all the missing features were so useless no one would be complaining now would they? And if nobody was addressing these things during the beta how do you expect ms to fix them in the final release?
Windows 11 is not in BETA though. It is in its final release
@@k4g675 What are you talking about? This is no longer a beta, this is the full release.
@@megapro125 Guess that this Killer4Ghost is an absolute casual user, who only starts some of his programs and thus never experiences how great and useful the customization can be on windows 10 & 7 🙄 People that only uses the their pcs for some gaming and open a webbrowser, will never understand the complains.
I can't believe you didn't mention the removal of "Never combine taskbar buttons." I refuse to use Windows 11 until it's added back. It's a productivity nightmare.
I don't know what Microsoft was thinking when they removed so many useful productivity-focused features (like making the taskbar smaller, not combining taskbar elements, being able to show taskbar labels, being able to relocate the taskbar to top/sides etc). Just, ugh. Looks so great and I would love to use W11 for its many other useful features, but stupid issues like these is going to keep me from upgrading for now.
I agree, this is THE defining 'feature' that is preventing me from upgrading to Windows 11. I mean, what the hell are microsoft thinking??
Video says 2 years old. I was recently coerced into taking Windows 11.
I HATE IT. So many stupid, unwanted, unnecessary changes. It has made it harder to do my job, which was already hard enough.
Thank you for saying what I've been feeling since I installed Windows 11. I spent way too much time tweaking Windows 11 UI to make it more functional until I eventually re-installed Windows 10.
It took me 1 hour fighting new Windows until I realized they made it for phones. One button mice - my dreams come true - whatever I press Windows sees it as left button click on taskbar.
Macrium software
I took out all the cortana crap and decided 8.1 was the way to go. those start menus piss me off
..if you are gonna re-install why not opt for windows 8 or even 7 ...10 sUCKS ASS ....
@@krishnan-resurrection714 7 is indeed amazing. I never had any issues with 10 though.
Thanks LTT guys, you make me appreciate my GNU/Linux and plasma desktop, EMACS...more than ever. Wish you good luck on your Linux challenge part 2.
My biggest annoyance is the lack of the "never combine" option and text information on the taskbar.
i didnt even know that exiszs
This. Or that they have removed the seconds from the clock. Like, what did they do to them? 😕 I will never go to Windows 11, I'm learning how to use linux instead
what even is that?
Yep, this. The amount of Googling I've done trying to figure out where they have hidden it in disbelieve that they had actually removed it.
Why oh why would I want to wait for windows to show up when hovering over things rather than clicking them directly, or let the taskbar be a big blank space when I could have useful labels..
Yeah there's third party ways to return the taskbar to basically windows 10's taskbar. But messing with the explorer process on an operating system this new is begging to run into trouble. (Point in case: My gf ran into issues because she did install something to move the taskbar to the right side of the screen, one windows update later and the computer starts up with just a black screen instead of the desktop).
So dear microsoft, can we please have drag and drop, window titles and an option to not combine buttons back? Like we had in Windows 10? Oh and make the taskbar draggable to any side? Ya know.. like we already had in the 'old' Windows. Removing features is always a bad idea.
One of top 5 reasons I switched back to windows 10
There's something with the copy/cut/paste system that causes Explorer to crash, primarily when using the right-click menu instead of CTRL+ keys. I've noticed this a LOT on file renames.
Moving paint quickly causes it to have weird artifacts and sometimes the mouse then continues to move on its own - very interesting to try out!
Start of video "Patience Is A Virtue "
Except when dealing with Windows Update
Thanks for beta testing Windows 11. I look forward to using it in a year when it's ready for consumer use.
Think I'll wait for 12 as per tradition
Couldn't have said it better myself
@@NotAGoodUsername360 Was there ever 2 skips in a row?
I'm going to wait for the first "service pack"
@@killertruth186 Yes, from 95 to XP missed out 98 and ME, unless you had already jumped across to 2K (not that I cared - I went from NT3.1 on the fully 32 ->64 bit route) then from 7 to 10 missed 8 and 8.1 (which was a way of not calling it Win9).
With rapidly improving game compatibility (thankyou steam), I'll probably go to Linux before Win11, and keep my personal metadata to myself. As long as M$ is collecting and selling that metadata, the user is the product, the data purchaser is the client, and the OS is entirely suitable to be removed by any truly adequate antivirus software.
I agree with the prioritization, I would like to be able to have it (local mostly) even the search (online) is so obnoxious, as well the bug you've mentioned still opens up a separate window for search rather than maintaining (search screen mitigation) that's why we have browsers (also, perhaps the main reason why they are looking at this as a workaround for Windows Help.) There were somethings even during saving (autosave) which wants you to use their (Cloud) by default, often not necessary, but, which, also creates dependency on their Software and Network. I downloaded their Microsoft Office (not 365) within 5 days it had an ad on my desktop to try 365, weird right?
I’m still with window 10, doesn’t seem worth upgrading until all these types of bugs are fixed or improved. Also I prefer the windows 10 design as I’m not using a tablet so would like the more details without going through endless viewing tabs
It isn't an upgrade if it's worse. The word you're looking for is "update."
honestly I had 0 bugs till now, and it's been a month. Everything still works, including games and I didn't even do a fresh install, but rather chose the option where it keeps my files. I'm actually really happy with it, although not much has changed actually apart from some cool features. But then again it depends on your usecase
@@armyofninjas9055 you mean downgrade
@@gabrielp.179 people complain not much has changed but its literally a free upgrade, what do people expect ???
@@SweatyFeetGirl what ? noooo you are supposed to be mad and complain... i am on 11 and same here, rock solid, got none of these bugs. i think like 90% of people here never even tried 11 and just believe the negativity
Thanks guys for beta testing Windows 11 for me, so it'll be a painless experience for me upgrading in 2023. 👍
The Open Beta starts in 2025, this is still Pre-Alpha Early Access.
The amount of times I have seen boomers copy paste this comment makes it extremely cringe. Nobody's beta-testing for you, they're using it before you, as am I. And I haven't had any problems from the last two months.
2025 you mean?
Thanks for using regular windows with telemetry and spyware so I can use windows AME for free xD
2025*
I absolutely hate how difficult it is to create a new folder in the right click menu - rename, too. Now it requires an extra click to make it happen. Guess they are forcing me to get better with shortcuts? On the positive side - it handles multiple user accounts a ton better. In Windows 10, the task bar would often freeze if I was logged into two accounts at once. All of this seems to be resolved with Windows 11.
In every multi-user version of Windows since XP, I never once experienced the Taskbar locking-up when two accounts were logged-in at once. Something was wrong with your specific install.
THere is a simple regedit thing that can make your right click look like a windows 10 right click. It works perfect
F2 renames files
@@deusexaethera interesting. Yeah, I had to log out of an account before the task bar on the second would work. Could not solve it to save my life.
@@hmr313_ I'm going to have to look that up!
Would you do an update on how things are progressing with Win 11? Is it worth switching now?
@Tr4sh Oxide you can get around it, just wait for the next OS to release. I remember when vista released my dad stuck with XP until 7 came out. I also did the same thing when windows 8 came out, I stayed with 7 until 10 dropped.
I was glad to see that the inability to right click the taskbar to bring up task manager was mentioned, although I quickly got used to right clicking the start menu button instead, since that does still give you the option to summon task manager. The other thing that drives me nuts about Windows 11 is that the calendar / clock button on the taskbar now no longer shows you the events on your calendar. It shows a calendar, but there's no indication of when your events are. That was such as useful little feature to be able to get an overview of your schedule without launching the full app, and now it's gone.
WOW you're a lifesaver. TIL right clicking the start menu!
Thanks!
I am sticking with Windows 10 LTS. Some changes of Windows 11 are like why???
I’m amazed as well that they reduced the number of options when right clicking the vast space on the taskbar. And I’m glad I’m not the only one who did that to get to task manager. Pity none of this works for the 10-20% of times my Win11 boots without a taskbar or start menu!
Using Windows + W you can open up Widgets and in there you can add the To-Do Widget to add things you need to do, also pressing Windows + X shows you a list of things (one of those being Task Manager)
@@jace888au You can open Task Manager fairly easily if you press the Windows Key and X (Windows + X) which gives you a list of things including Task Manager
Here's a little something that was omitted from the video. The most compelling features for the use of an MS account to login to windows has always been sync between devices. Whether it was settings, personalization, or even the task view, it was incredibly useful... Keyword here being _was_. This feature got removed in Windows 11 for... some strange reason.
Wow. I did not know this. I know they removed wallpaper roaming but the other settings too? Damn.
@@Raivo_K nah they didn't, wallpaper yes, a lot of other stuff syncs all the time. And I that's annoying as hell
In my limited testing with Windows 11 the only thing that really annoyed me was the inability to move the taskbar. I've always enjoyed having the taskbar at the top any time I found myself on Windows.
Before anyone mentions 3rd party tools or even the registry value that can be changed, I am well aware of those. Problem is not all the flyout menus show up in the proper place, so it just gives you an extremely inconsistent experience.
Not even that but you can't move the hidden icons to another taskbar on another screen nor the time, so when you play games you cant see the time or your temps
Not to mention we shouldn't have to use 3rd party tools to GET BACK functionality.... in an os..... written by a multi trillion dollar company.
@@hardwire666too Multi Trillion lol
True i have Always used It on top. They should separate the new dock with the task bar. So you can put One on top and the latter at Botton like many os guis like Mac or Gnome
Well, it figures. Microsoft doesn't like it on top. He likes to screw you from below while you do all the work.
6:25 when he was talking about the rounded corners, the corners of the video were rounded, i see you ltt
I was contemplating doing the update, but after watching this, I'm gonna stick with Windows 10 for the foreseeable future.. Besides, wasn't Windows 10 supposed to be the last OS? and wasn't it supposed to be modular so it could be supported for years to come? And while I haven't had any real complaints with 10, nothing will ever top how awesome 7 was for me!
Windows 10 been out for 7 years I’m pretty sure it time for an upgrade
@@twistedtempo200 more like 6yrs
And Win10 was supposed to be it, the last OS so you wouldn't have to keep upgrading swapping OS
Windows 10 was supposed to just improve and be the ultimate OS
I regret having windows 11. I didn’t even know it had updated tell it did and now I can’t go back
New Spyware
@@whyioughta178 after it updated you had 10 days to go back...it even lets you know in Windows update. Just say you don't use your computer much or for everything except playing games
I loved how editors rounded the corners of the video when linus was talking about UI corners.
I'm sure editors are happy that you noticed
I've been daily driving Windows 11 for work (SysAdmin) and the most noticeable problem for me is that OneDrive causes explorer to lag massively. The weird thing is if you press F11 to get into full screen mode, the lag disappears. It's like some rendering bug or something.
You must not work in a secure business. The IT at my work (healthcare data) would NEVER adopt an unfinished/untested OS. Huge potential for security nightmares.
why did they remove the "never combine" thing on the taskbar? ;-;
6:10 The pop-out you're calling the "system tray" is actually the overflow menu. The system tray is on the taskbar.
They just need to ditch the overflow and just show it all always.
@@storm37000 How about no
Years ago when I used Windows, it was exciting to see it improve with updates and new iterations of the OS because updates mostly fixed bugs and added features. Now though I dread every update because it seems like it gets worse without fail. When you update, you always wonder: "Ok, so what features are they removing this time?" or "I wonder what settings it's going to reset to default again". Rarely do they add something new that is better than something it replaced or even something people wanted.
They are only updating ways to exploit your data at this point. They want to turn your desktop into a "one button" iphone at this point.... It's sad.
Man, I believe I have experienced 90% of these bugs up to this point. Thanks LTT for publishing this! I really hope Microsoft fixes these bugs asap. It's such a painful experience on a daily basis.
I encountered all of the ones listed in this video. Still, I like Windows 11, and the weather icon is now on the taskbar since the last update.
Wow, product placement in every single chapter!