I kinda missed when the boys are just either playing or doing something mudane and goes from 0 to 100 real quick like them fighting aliens or monsters or pissing off celebrities or getting caught in there other crazy Bs.
I don't think it is considered bad by the majority (sure, there's always gonna be those people). I just think it is considered a little bit dropped from quality
Played fractured but whole, beat it and nearly 100 percented it in three days. I think it was too good to put down or it sucked. I don't even know anymore.
For the past 20 seasons or so Simpsons have just been: something happens at start, random thing happens 5 minutes in and abandonds the beginning, another random thing happens and then drama at the end.
Things I liked about the special were: The sole focus wasn’t Randy Actually focused on the kids Mr Garrison isn’t president anymore and Mr. Hat came back The news reporter freaking out on Tom
Same, also mufesto returning I really liked; I thought he was really funny and I’ve missed him and some of the other early season characters with cameos
The pandemic special wasn’t the best but it definitely highlighted how a lot of people felt about the pandemic the vaccination special also wasn’t the best but the main plot about the boys trying to revive their friendship but then splitting up was pretty relatable
Well one of the behind the scenes things theyve done show Trey and Matt pacing around the table spouting off the usual south park genius dribble while the others watch, and Ive always thought thats what it looks like every year and the others are just there to make sure it gets written down haha
the writing staff is mostly them two + a couple of people. I think Chatman (the guy that made Xavier Renegade Angel and more recently The Shivering Truth) is still on their team, and Bill Hader was famously part of their writing staff for some seasons too. Not sure who is currently part of the writing 'room' this time thi,
@@jashinftw kenny hotz from kenny vs Spenny used to be a writer but he said he was mainly treys coffee boy and that no one actually got any things in but trey and Matt, and that maybe 1 or 2 jokes would slip in.
I think that kenny being treated like a kid (probobly unintentionally) was because the boys may have realized that their friendship is what's actaully making kenny have a somewhat decent life, considering that his parents are abusuive and he's in poverty, so without the boys kenny would be miserable
@@ilyanwevers7093 Remember when his infinite lives were just a quirk you accepted, even if it seriously meant no escape from the bad as well as from the good?
South Park was better when: Cartman was the main villain, when Kyle was the self righteous smart one, when Stan was the leader and went on a righteous rampage and his character wasn't just the sake of being relatable, when Kenny was a perverted prick with Cartman, when Butters was naive and gullible.
@@cupio-stardust yeah true butters isnt really innocent anymore. i'd say kenny is a better character in good cause he saved da world like 3 or 4 times and sacrificed himself a shit ton of times
At season 1-4 family guy was amazing season 5-9 it was decent season 10-15 it was meh then from season 16 to the current season 19 it’s pretty garbage with a lack of storyline and jokes
It might be going downhill, but even at its current lowest point, it’s still really good. And if it goes back up, it’s gonna be even better than before! It’d be awesome if the creators saw this video!
Talking about going down hill and going back up, I hope rick and morty gets better again, all jokes aside it is a pretty funny show but the last season is so bad, it is incredibly boring and I remeber not liking anyone or almost no one in it either.
@@tilburg8683 yeah man same. i feel like they’re too focused on being the intellectual 4th wall breaking thing everyone wants it to be instead of just being great. the last 5 episodes were pretty good thi
For me it’s B Tier at the moment. Still better than later seasons of Simpsons and Family Guy, which is impressive on its own, but doesn’t hold up as well. For me, it feels like the creators aren’t having as much fun as they did, at least with the main cast
I want a mix of serial and irrelevant episodes. Like the one of the old seasons when Cartman kept looking for ways to make a million dollars or something like that lol
The serialization was so forced at the beginning, it was basically just a normal episode and then all of a sudden every so often it would focus on something from the previous episode like "HEY, REMEMBER THIS? THIS HAPPENED BEFORE!"
Downfall from 20-23, I barely enjoyed watching the 2 specials, and South Park starting dipping in quality around Season 14 or 15 but it wasn't very noticeable unless you binge the series
The fact that we lost Mr hanky, illiterately having ManBearPig actually becoming real and killing fucking Satan, like how are you going to kill off one of the best characters from the fucking movie. Like it actually cheesed me out that they actually killed him off and explained the logic to how
The whole part with Garrison being toned deaf and thinking people had a problem with him being gay felt a lot like a Kevin Spacey joke. Which I really like, like you said it felt more like they were playing off of topics instead of being reactionary
Completely agree! And I think that even if the newer seasons aren’t as good to some people (I personally like them), it still feels like Matt and Trey are passionate about it, unlike the Family Guy team.
There's an interview where Seth MacFarlane says that he hasn't written for family Guy in over 10 years so yeah he's pretty much just talent on family Guy and American Dad
South Parks problem is that it’s humor became too centered around parodying reality. Same problem with Family Guy and the Simpsons. If you notice other animated shows that were well received (Regular Show/Rick&Morty etc etc) all of those don’t need to rely on parody based humor. Even Bojack Horseman parodies reality but still finds a way to be unique from being JUST a parody.
Mike Morro of Course, but atleast they’d take a break once and while and shake it up with something new. Now they feel they NEED to ground every joke in reality. They did not focus this hard on parodying in the first 6 or 7 seasons. They didn’t give af about making a whole season about an election lmao a bunch of other elections went by and they didn’t care
@@BabyKobeeee They parodied elections before it wasn't a season long arc but they did parody them like when Obama first got elected. They also parodied reality a lot in the first couple seasons.
South Park is always at its best when it's about being kids growing up in a crappy town. That's probably why the best thing to come out of the show in a decade was the two games. Also BASEketball is one of the best drunk watches ever.
''serialization killed South Park'' for people who liked stories about the 4 boys, but personally i think the PC Principal era and both specials were very good, Band In China and Board Girls are amazing too, it seems just like, for many fans like you, if the episode does not focus on the 4 boys then it's bad.
@@thatoneguymatt987 I've always really liked A Million Little Fibers though... I enjoyed every episode of South Park, the only part I didn't like much and wanted to stop not long after it started was Cartman's and Heidi's relationship, that always annoyed me for some reason. everything else though? I've had fun, it's South Park and I still love it. It's different from its roots but it still holds most of the charm.
To be honest, I wasn’t expecting much from this special, but I was pleasantly surprised by how good it was. I found it very funny, and they seemed to be coming back to their roots. Also, thank god it was about the kids and not Randy
He’s gotta rank all of the South Park episodes lmao Edit: Holy shit 1.1K thanks! Another edit lmao: Dang this is the first my comment got popular thanks everyone appreciate it!
Hell yeah. But not sure if he'll get in trouble for it tho, the TH-cam safety soldiers usually just strike and delete most stuff, surprised the Simpsons stuff is still up.(its great and I hope it stays up, but knowing TH-cam is the worst platform ever you never know).
While I did grow tired of the serialization, I do still enjoy South Park. The Pandemic and Vaccination Specials have been pretty cathartic, and it seems they are trying to go back to the old style of storytelling. The Vaccination Special isn't even centred on Randy, for once.
The funny thing is even with South Park at its lowest with the Tregrity Farms stuff, it was still far funnier and better written than most other adult animated comedies airing the same time. When the bar’s set so high even the low points are quality
Its fucking BORING. This is south park, you either need to be really fucking good, or really fucking AWFUL, or else you just get a depressing slog. It's like playing golf with a pond in the middle. If you put a lot of force, that's good, the ball goes over. Don't go that hard? That's fine, you didn't hit the pond. Either way, you HAVE to commit, or else you get a soggy, buzzkilling mess.
My main issues with how the serialization era were Randy was flanderized in the same way as Homer Simpson Lack of character development for side characters that were known for years (the girls) Their over reliance of current topic events to guide their story Lack of the kids in general
South Park was always one of those shows that even when I felt like one season or episodes was tapering off. It could come back in an instant to being good. I’ll never write this show off completely, unlike Simpsons or Family Guy.
I do understand your concerns with modern South Park. I started watching at 12 years old and I loved it ever since. However, ever since they started using Randy for every episode, that’s when the show started to be a lot boring for me. Randy is a great and funny character but making him the main focus of the show just doesn’t seem to work. I’m really glad that in the vaccination special, they were able to focus more on the boys. I’m still pretty bummed that the boys aren’t together. I hope they can do something with the boys being separated in the next episode instead of sweeping it under the rug like most shows do.
2:08 The Scoots was pretty cool too; felt a lot like the older episodes with the whole "seemingly inoffensive event blowing way out of proportion and causing chaos" plotline
@Anthony Robinson South park has always been controversial, and people have been wanting it to be off the air since season 1. The #cancelsouthpark ads were making fun of it.
@@guyfauks2576 pretty much. When it first premiered, conservatives hated it because it was a raunchy, crude, vulgar T.V show that revolved around kids swearing. It was highly controversial for a long time. It stopped being so around the 2010's, but picked up again in the 2020's with now liberals hating it.
I used to be a huge south park fan but I completely fell off when they started with the election stuff. I've never been politically minded so a ton of jokes feel like they just flew over my head and it was really depressing
Same. Seasons 3-11 were the peak, and by 2012 my interest in it just started fading gradually. Even the creators admitted they were in the burnout stage when they made the "You're Getting Old" episodes, so this is to be expected.
LS Mark, you're 100% correct. South Park was a pretty good show, but overtime, it can be a little predictable at times. I think we can all agree that it needs to end at some point.
I come around 3 years in the future, and I’m happy to report South Park is thriving again, in fact in 2023 there was more Google searches for the show than any other point in its history
Before watching this video gotta say this, Trey and Matt were basically saying the old format was burning them out and a serialisation was the only way and doing it on a current topic was they could keep making episodes. By that, serialisation keeps it alive so the video title is a little bit spurious. It's production cycle demands the show being structured as such.
Serialization may of been what Trey and Matt needed to keep working on the show but the show itself became a diseased corpse because of it. In a decade no one is going to remember South Park as being a serialized masterpiece they are just going to remember that one time the funny man said "Fuck China". It's not even the serialization that's the core issue. It's how they chose to serialize the season with only a few social/political issues in mind. Everything has to be built around the "Fuck China" season rather than the story using "Fuck China" as a hook to connect character dramas. You can replace that with whatever hot button topic you wish. When character interactions are built on the plot rather than the plot built on character interactions... it doesn't make for great comedy.
You got something wrong: season 18 was when they first experimented with serialization (in small elements) and it was a success, so *season 19* became the first serialzied season, and it too was a huge success. Season 20 was one long plotline, but season 19 was also full on serialized as well, just not to the same extent.
I liked it for a bit in the serialization but I haven't watched any since its mainly become the randy show and I don't find him funny anymore. I haven't watched any of the last part of the the last season because it sucks. This kind of hurts to see it suck so much because I grew up with this! I wasn't allowed to watch it but my mom worked nights when it started and I waited until she left and watched because I thought it was hilarious. This show for me is like how most people grew up watching the Simpsons. My friends and I never talked about the Simpsons as kids and I never discovered it until college. South Park was my love. I freaking hate randy I hate tegridy farms and I hate that they don't even do a real Halloween show or any like that and South Park Halloween and Christmas episodes were my love.
You’re literally reading my mind, I also thought the show stops really being good after season 19 and also find Put It Down to be one rare exception of a good episode beyond that point. Even my brother only prefers to look back at seasons 4 to 19. That time just felt the most when Matt and Trey knew what they were doing.
I think Matt and Trey just really stretched themselves too thin over the past several years. They had the sequel to their highly successful game theybwere writing, they had the serialized seasons that had an overarching narrative, and then had to come up with new topics to cover on top of all that. If anything then having less going on and getting a break since they really only had to write two long episodes instead of ten.
I personally love South Park’s serialization! Season 20 wasn’t my favorite, but I like that they switched things up to keep the show fresh. I love the serialization on a smaller scale, like Seasons 21-23. I can see why people aren’t a fan of it, though. At least the last two specials have been pretty great (in my opinion) :)
I REALLY hated Randy in You're Getting Old and the moment he moved to/opened up Tegridy Farms, that hatred grew even stronger. He openly admits how unhappy he was in the aforementioned episode and once he decided to become a farmer, it feels like he wants to make his family feel just as miserable. But the worst thing about him is how (in the SHOW'S continuity, at least) HE was the one who started the COVID Pandemic. HE shut the planet down, drove so many people out of business and killed so many lives. So, I'm sorry to all the Randy fans...but you've bet on the wrong horse here
One of South Park’s greatest strengths, especially with the later series is something neither Family Guy now The Simpsons have, the ability to make stories based around other people (yeah; the other shows do the odd episode but the main characters are still heavily involved) which is perfect for them when they are having trouble writing, the standard may not be as high but it still delivers no matter whether the four boys are involved or not. It’s become a show about the town rather than just Stan, Kyle, Cartman and Kenny.
The random kid with Clyde and Timmy is David. He got introduced as a new kid during the Yelp episode and has occasionally appeared in the background since.
I feel like South Park is going to end soon, they killed satan, mr Hankey’s gone, and the friends broke up, it all just feels like a build up to a big finale
I was watching a South Park clip on TH-cam, and I saw a comment which really struck a tune with me. It said "I miss when the boys actually acted like kids".
I actually really enjoyed the serialized seasons (prior to Tegridy Farms)! When they were airing on TV for the first time, I remember being so excited to see what happened next, since the episodes ended on a cliffhanger. I will agree that once Randy became the main character/the character the show focused on, it became a lot more "lifeless" (that's the best way I can describe it), and I felt like, yeah, okay, this is happening, and it's South Park, so it's kinda fun while also being topical, but the spirit wasn't there. And the most recent episode- the Vaccination Special- actually felt more like a send-off to the series than a new beginning to me. Matt Stone and Trey Parker have mentioned feeling burnt out by the show before, so I saw it as, "the four boys are no longer hanging out, and since South Park was born from them and their friendship, them not being friends anymore means the series is over, which is probably what Stone and Parker want". Including all these side characters from prior seasons to the end of the special kind of solidifies that feeling of it being the last episode, in my opinion. HOWEVER, I will definitely continue to watch the series if it goes on past this! You're right about it being interesting to see where the show will go from here. TL;DR I liked most of the serialized episodes, I did not like Randy-focused episodes much, and I feel like the vaccination special is an ending more than a new beginning- but if new South Park episodes come out I would definitely look forward to them! P.S.- If you want to make more South Park videos, go for it! You did a great job with this one and I would definitely like to see more. :) Edit: Fixed repetitive use of "look forward".
god me too. the episode is one of my favorites, which is especially remarkable for a recent season episode, but I just really wish they do more of it. that's why put it down is my favorite episode of new south park, a big part of it is focused on tweek and Craig which I love and I'm so glad they did. and not fucking randy.
Honestly I don't agree. I feel like the Serialization helped bring South Park out of a rut. Yeah season 20 was kind of just a 3 hour movie that has a plot that falls apart in the latter half, but from seasons 21 onward I really enjoyed it. South Park is this whole world of characters and if they want to focus more on characters that are mostly ignored then I'd say that's a good thing, even if the exaction is not all that good, because it means that Matt and Trey are at least trying new things after working on this show for 20 years.
Some part of me think the reason for the shift in serialisation and character drama was because they wanted to have what Rick and Morty or similar shows have but they can't replicate it because this show is from a different time and it's not easy being transtioning to mostly self-contained comedy show to having a storyline is not easy.
At first it was funny but then they kept on doing it over and over again and it slowly became redundant even though I still love randy as a character I don’t think he can career the show for a spacial let alone a season
At some point, it would interesting to see Matt and Trey's original plan for the Hillary-wins story arc, but we probably never will, at least not in fully-realized episodes
Seasons 1-17 relied on current events, but they were also written in ways that would make them timeless. With season 18+ at this rate, i can't imagine future audiences enjoyingthe series that much.
As an OG who fell off around S19, my problem was never the serialization. I think that all mostly worked. It had more to do with the pressure you mention that Matt & Trey felt to always tackle current events & politics (after Team America). Specifically the expectation to represent or attack "both sides". The edge just kind of dulled and the material got...hackneyed. The show's slow lurch rightward in general, sort of laying the groundwork for this eternal cancel culture grievance with the PC Principal, all the trans panicky stuff, etc...not what I signed up for. Echoes of Dave Chapelle ngl. And I hear their Trump stuff is all pretty routine Orange Man Bad. Both sides achieved, yay. But I'll always remember the better days fondly, and I'm open to revisiting it eventually.
What'd you think of the South Park Vaccination Special 🤔
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i didnt watch it
Idk I don't watch this show
I kinda missed when the boys are just either playing or doing something mudane and goes from 0 to 100 real quick like them fighting aliens or monsters or pissing off celebrities or getting caught in there other crazy Bs.
Like the original Pandemic two part special with the giant killer guinea-pigs. That was the golden age of this show
@@garythefishable or when they got japanese weapons and played that they where anime heroes
Honestly season 4 5 6 and 7 were the golden era of south park
the episode where they played cops and robbers was the first thing that came to my mind XD
@@Ricoxemani also 8
if it took until season 20 for the show to be considered bad, thats still pretty funkin impressive
I don't think it is considered bad by the majority (sure, there's always gonna be those people). I just think it is considered a little bit dropped from quality
season 20 was meh and depressing
Not even bad just decent
Except the show is still great.
I think the peak was seasons 4-8. There were a lot of classics from that five season stretch.
where south park really shined in the last years was the 2 video games
Didnt matt and tray say they want to make more games?
I think it’s mainly because it lets the story be character driven, which is much better than the show’s format
Played fractured but whole, beat it and nearly 100 percented it in three days. I think it was too good to put down or it sucked. I don't even know anymore.
Stick of Truth and Fractured But Whole really take all the great moments we've seen in the series and recontextualize it so well with the kids
True
Even when South Park isn’t doing to well, It’s still enjoyable to watch
Can’t say the same thing about The Simpsons or Family Guy
Yah, I grew up loving all three but South Park is the only one I stay up to date on. The writers at Family Guy and the Simpsons have given up imo
For the past 20 seasons or so Simpsons have just been: something happens at start, random thing happens 5 minutes in and abandonds the beginning, another random thing happens and then drama at the end.
The same formula that morden Family guy is using as well
@Adam Hang The Simpsons is a dead grave filled with unfunny jokes and unoriginal plots.
why cant the simpsons finally end and futurama return :(.
Things I liked about the special were:
The sole focus wasn’t Randy
Actually focused on the kids
Mr Garrison isn’t president anymore and Mr. Hat came back
The news reporter freaking out on Tom
Same, also mufesto returning I really liked; I thought he was really funny and I’ve missed him and some of the other early season characters with cameos
Lots of old characters returned
i missed the old Mr Garrison a lot just a old bored man with his annoying students ohhh good days
I'm sad I love Randy and President Garrison
@@racool911 me too but the classic is 100x better than president garrison
The pandemic special wasn’t the best but it definitely highlighted how a lot of people felt about the pandemic the vaccination special also wasn’t the best but the main plot about the boys trying to revive their friendship but then splitting up was pretty relatable
Nice profile pic! Fellow Tool fan?
@@DakotaofRaptors yup
Bruh, you shouldn’t spoil it like that
@@CreamyKami lol he spoils in the vid
@@CreamyKami it’s spoiled in the video, plus you can watch it for free on their website
They aren't the sole writers. Trey writes all the scripts but there's a writing staff.
Yeah, and I've heard being part of that writing staff is more or less humoring Trey while everyone eats pizza
Well one of the behind the scenes things theyve done show Trey and Matt pacing around the table spouting off the usual south park genius dribble while the others watch, and Ive always thought thats what it looks like every year and the others are just there to make sure it gets written down haha
the writing staff is mostly them two + a couple of people. I think Chatman (the guy that made Xavier Renegade Angel and more recently The Shivering Truth) is still on their team, and Bill Hader was famously part of their writing staff for some seasons too. Not sure who is currently part of the writing 'room' this time thi,
Anyone with a bojack pic gets a like from me
@@jashinftw kenny hotz from kenny vs Spenny used to be a writer but he said he was mainly treys coffee boy and that no one actually got any things in but trey and Matt, and that maybe 1 or 2 jokes would slip in.
I think that kenny being treated like a kid (probobly unintentionally) was because the boys may have realized that their friendship is what's actaully making kenny have a somewhat decent life, considering that his parents are abusuive and he's in poverty, so without the boys kenny would be miserable
The saddest thing is that he cant die so he will live forever
@@ilyanwevers7093 Maybe he can die of old age or when his mum dies, so there's no-one to give birth to him.
That's not alluded to or hinted at at all. They just wanted Kenny to be a baby.
@@ilyanwevers7093 Remember when his infinite lives were just a quirk you accepted, even if it seriously meant no escape from the bad as well as from the good?
@@mamodokod They probably don't HAVE to hint at it.
South Park was better when:
Cartman was the main villain, when Kyle was the self righteous smart one, when Stan was the leader and went on a righteous rampage and his character wasn't just the sake of being relatable, when Kenny was a perverted prick with Cartman, when Butters was naive and gullible.
True, but they were gonna have to move past that formula eventually
IK lol i loved it when it was like this
None of that has changed lol
Butters has gotten less and less innocent over the seasons, probably cause of Cartman.
@@cupio-stardust yeah true butters isnt really innocent anymore. i'd say kenny is a better character in good cause he saved da world like 3 or 4 times and sacrificed himself a shit ton of times
I can’t imagine a South Park without the 4 iconic characters as friends.
No way they keep the change
A season at most
They'll keep it for a while, but I don't think you need to make the audience believe otherwise to make use of this split between the characters.
Post-Covid Special:
@@madisnzz Season 25:
South Park isn’t as good as it was before, but it still is way better than current Simpsons and Family Guy.
Exactly
Saying it’s better then current simpsons isn’t saying much
Yep.
Not saying much but yeah
At season 1-4 family guy was amazing season 5-9 it was decent season 10-15 it was meh then from season 16 to the current season 19 it’s pretty garbage with a lack of storyline and jokes
It might be going downhill, but even at its current lowest point, it’s still really good. And if it goes back up, it’s gonna be even better than before! It’d be awesome if the creators saw this video!
Now isn't the lowest point imo
I think around season 19, 20 or 21 was around it's lowest point
Talking about going down hill and going back up, I hope rick and morty gets better again, all jokes aside it is a pretty funny show but the last season is so bad, it is incredibly boring and I remeber not liking anyone or almost no one in it either.
@@tilburg8683 yeah man same. i feel like they’re too focused on being the intellectual 4th wall breaking thing everyone wants it to be instead of just being great. the last 5 episodes were pretty good thi
@@tilburg8683 same here
Modern South Park: Not perfect, but still stable. It went from S-Tier to upper A-Tier.
For me it’s B Tier at the moment. Still better than later seasons of Simpsons and Family Guy, which is impressive on its own, but doesn’t hold up as well. For me, it feels like the creators aren’t having as much fun as they did, at least with the main cast
@Prayingmantis 211 if South Park is ever at C tier, then Family Guy is D and Simpsons is F, cause wow have they been showing their age.
@@UltimateGamerCC
Family Guy and Simpsons are both sitting comfortably in F tier.
@@pluto3194 nah, Family Guy still has some funny moments, meanwhile Simpsons is dull on top of dull.
@@exileforever2508 I can respect that. B-Tier is still passing
I want a mix of serial and irrelevant episodes. Like the one of the old seasons when Cartman kept looking for ways to make a million dollars or something like that lol
Same bro. I'm wishing for them to take that route.
Season 6 was kinda like that with the running plot of Kenny’s death, but the episodes still being able to watched on their own
The stuff about the "BroShip" ending in the show really hit close in my gut lol.
I actually thought they would break up the “BroShip”. However the boys are so co-dependent
The serialization was so forced at the beginning, it was basically just a normal episode and then all of a sudden every so often it would focus on something from the previous episode like "HEY, REMEMBER THIS? THIS HAPPENED BEFORE!"
Yeah I fucking hated that it was so hamfisted
At first I thought the Washington Redskins and Gluten Free Ebola were supposed to be a two parter, then I realized what was happening
that episode where they were stuck on the bus was just painful to watch
I'm still not inviting you to casa bonita.
Poor butters, it must’ve been lonely in that bomb shelter
@@monasocks2072 yeah, felt bad for him the entire episode
If you leave me now
You'll take away the biggest part of me
Ooh-ooh, no, baby please don't go
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It's Butters, you feel bad for him in every episode lmao
Casa bonita, casa bonita ❤️
what's even more surprising is that the downfall only lasted for 3 seasons
I liked 21-23
Downfall from 20-23, I barely enjoyed watching the 2 specials, and South Park starting dipping in quality around Season 14 or 15 but it wasn't very noticeable unless you binge the series
@@thatoneguymatt987 thats what i always say aswell, my favourite season is probally 7 or 8, both those seasons are gold
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The fact that we lost Mr hanky, illiterately having ManBearPig actually becoming real and killing fucking Satan, like how are you going to kill off one of the best characters from the fucking movie. Like it actually cheesed me out that they actually killed him off and explained the logic to how
Characters from hell and heaven don't die, they resurrect infinitely.
The whole part with Garrison being toned deaf and thinking people had a problem with him being gay felt a lot like a Kevin Spacey joke. Which I really like, like you said it felt more like they were playing off of topics instead of being reactionary
"Seth Mcfunny man Farlen"
How to trigger Mr. Enter:
@@expansionpackdeluxe636 lol
A show being good for 19 seasons is a SERIOUS flex though
True lasted Simpsons 9
And family guy,well...
Completely agree! And I think that even if the newer seasons aren’t as good to some people (I personally like them), it still feels like Matt and Trey are passionate about it, unlike the Family Guy team.
@@tabifiedler6944 true, I really liked the dead kids episode I thought it was a really funny Randy episode honestly
@@lamondlense dead kids is HILARIOUS. I also love Mexican Joker as a Randy episode.
Tbh I didn't find season 17 or 18 very enjoyable (Season 19 was great tho).
There's an interview where Seth MacFarlane says that he hasn't written for family Guy in over 10 years so yeah he's pretty much just talent on family Guy and American Dad
So maybe Seth is what kept family guy good
@@chickennoodlegamer915 Family guy good? When? How?
@@mattmoves5920 I think the first few seasons had some good parts but after its just a train wreck
@@mattmoves5920 watch seasons 1-3 you’d be surprised
@TurkeyToast Yeah remember the AMAZING episode that played a 4min Conway Twitty song twice? Truly superb writing.
What a lot of people don’t know about Family Guy is that Seth McFarland wanted it to end after season 5 but Fox wouldn’t let him do that.
For being on the air for over 20 years now it has handled seasonal rot way better than any other show.
South Parks problem is that it’s humor became too centered around parodying reality. Same problem with Family Guy and the Simpsons. If you notice other animated shows that were well received (Regular Show/Rick&Morty etc etc) all of those don’t need to rely on parody based humor. Even Bojack Horseman parodies reality but still finds a way to be unique from being JUST a parody.
The simpsons grew stale, and Family Guy relies on shock more than South Park at this point.
South Park has always parodied reality though that's the joke most of the time
Mike Morro of Course, but atleast they’d take a break once and while and shake it up with something new. Now they feel they NEED to ground every joke in reality. They did not focus this hard on parodying in the first 6 or 7 seasons. They didn’t give af about making a whole season about an election lmao a bunch of other elections went by and they didn’t care
@@BabyKobeeee
They parodied elections before it wasn't a season long arc but they did parody them like when Obama first got elected. They also parodied reality a lot in the first couple seasons.
@@BabyKobeeee, what about vote or die?
South Park is always at its best when it's about being kids growing up in a crappy town. That's probably why the best thing to come out of the show in a decade was the two games.
Also BASEketball is one of the best drunk watches ever.
cmon those games are ass
@@StinkManX the games were great fym
South Park was ahead of it’s time
Kyles mom is the first Karen
Weeeellllll
Karens always existed we just called them different things. E. G. in the 80s we called them Sharons, and in the 90s we called them Beckys.
@@Metalc KYLES MOM IS A B---
@@UnknownPerson-wc7wf itch
Remember death and the movie . The movie is a more complex version of death.
''serialization killed South Park'' for people who liked stories about the 4 boys, but personally i think the PC Principal era and both specials were very good, Band In China and Board Girls are amazing too, it seems just like, for many fans like you, if the episode does not focus on the 4 boys then it's bad.
Yes.
I only actually enjoyed Put it Down and Band in China, the rest of the episodes since seasons 20 feel like A Million Little Fibers
This dude voted for HRC.
@@thatoneguymatt987 I've always really liked A Million Little Fibers though...
I enjoyed every episode of South Park, the only part I didn't like much and wanted to stop not long after it started was Cartman's and Heidi's relationship, that always annoyed me for some reason. everything else though? I've had fun, it's South Park and I still love it. It's different from its roots but it still holds most of the charm.
I love the stupid and irrealistic shit humor... Not PC humor...
To be honest, I wasn’t expecting much from this special, but I was pleasantly surprised by how good it was. I found it very funny, and they seemed to be coming back to their roots. Also, thank god it was about the kids and not Randy
The creators of this seem so much more genuine than everyone else in the industry.
Yup
They are really smart
Absolutely!
The creators are just one of many jews in the industry. Theyre not any different, and the recent episodes show that blatantly.
@@justanotherguyful no one asked for your opinion, 卍
He’s gotta rank all of the South Park episodes lmao
Edit: Holy shit 1.1K thanks!
Another edit lmao: Dang this is the first my comment got popular thanks everyone appreciate it!
Mark would be a madman
@@VPKL he did the Simpsons this would be a walk in the park
@@OhtheHughmanity maybe on three hours this time
Oft
Hell yeah.
But not sure if he'll get in trouble for it tho, the TH-cam safety soldiers usually just strike and delete most stuff, surprised the Simpsons stuff is still up.(its great and I hope it stays up, but knowing TH-cam is the worst platform ever you never know).
South Park getting a serialization is like an editorial cartoon turned into a comic book.
Why heck are you commenting on every video ever made?
A minority of comic strips actually are serials.
Garfield
Yeah, this is sad
The new south park is not bad but l prefer old one.
11:08 Some random kid? That's David from season 19's "You're not Yelping"!
It actually isn’t
South park is still the goat though. The serialization stuff wasnt that bad either. For some people maybe, but not everyone feels that way.
While I did grow tired of the serialization, I do still enjoy South Park. The Pandemic and Vaccination Specials have been pretty cathartic, and it seems they are trying to go back to the old style of storytelling. The Vaccination Special isn't even centred on Randy, for once.
It's sad that people got so sick of Randy after season 23... When in the past everyone was always really happy to see a new Randy centric episode.
Why do people hate randy so much?
South Park has gone down hill recently but its still really good
yes i agree
Yeah at least they tried something new and different, it would be boring if they just did it get sane thing for 2 decades with no change.
@@beefycat9513 Its still better Than modern Simpson and modern family guy
@@mindlessyoutubeuser6435 Yeah I agree. As the original comment said, it's still pretty solid, just not what it used to be.
@@mindlessyoutubeuser6435 i agree but modern Simpsons sometimes has powerful épisodes
I'll admit , whenever I marathon south park I always make it a priority to skip season 20 .
How do you comment on every video I watch?
@@finnsullivan *what about me*
@@brobroman425 i dont know, what about you?
@@finnsullivan I'm in every reply section
Same
The funny thing is even with South Park at its lowest with the Tregrity Farms stuff, it was still far funnier and better written than most other adult animated comedies airing the same time. When the bar’s set so high even the low points are quality
Seriously why do people hate tegridy farms so much?
Its fucking BORING. This is south park, you either need to be really fucking good, or really fucking AWFUL, or else you just get a depressing slog.
It's like playing golf with a pond in the middle. If you put a lot of force, that's good, the ball goes over. Don't go that hard? That's fine, you didn't hit the pond. Either way, you HAVE to commit, or else you get a soggy, buzzkilling mess.
My main issues with how the serialization era were
Randy was flanderized in the same way as Homer Simpson
Lack of character development for side characters that were known for years (the girls)
Their over reliance of current topic events to guide their story
Lack of the kids in general
I misread it as sterilization and was quite confused.
All episodes of South Park are cleaned with soap and water
New York Times lookin ass
@@doog8365 That's just coincidence
@@tomb.524 Okay Los Angeles Times then NERD!!
@@doog8365 Just a Death Note fan who didn't knew what to take as a pfp, so I guess you are right with the nerd part.
South Park became less special since the TH-cam era, where everyone can produce a parody of current events.
Yeah, since about 2011 there has been a noticeable drop in quality that was really amplified in Season 20
South park's still better than like 98% of those parodies though
South Park was always one of those shows that even when I felt like one season or episodes was tapering off. It could come back in an instant to being good. I’ll never write this show off completely, unlike Simpsons or Family Guy.
Remember how sp responded to bin laden with a bug's bunny act? That was gold, they aren't bottling that lighting twice with this one...
I do understand your concerns with modern South Park. I started watching at 12 years old and I loved it ever since. However, ever since they started using Randy for every episode, that’s when the show started to be a lot boring for me. Randy is a great and funny character but making him the main focus of the show just doesn’t seem to work. I’m really glad that in the vaccination special, they were able to focus more on the boys. I’m still pretty bummed that the boys aren’t together. I hope they can do something with the boys being separated in the next episode instead of sweeping it under the rug like most shows do.
I agree I also started at 12
@@strawburst9726 I am 12
Started watching this at 18 and loved season 20
It doesn't help that Randy became a terrible character as far back as around Creme Fraiche.
2:08 The Scoots was pretty cool too; felt a lot like the older episodes with the whole "seemingly inoffensive event blowing way out of proportion and causing chaos" plotline
in my opinion hummels & heroin is a recent classic
Scoots is decent
I can name a few I liked
Hummels and Heroin
Doubling Down
Mexican Joker
Band In China
Board Girls
Holiday Special
Talking about hating the show they literally had a season called End South Park or something close to it... Big lol
#cancelsouthpark
@Anthony Robinson #cancelsouthpark was an advertising campaign that they ran a couple seasons back.
@Anthony Robinson South park has always been controversial, and people have been wanting it to be off the air since season 1. The #cancelsouthpark ads were making fun of it.
@@phabiorules so controversial even 60 year olds farts think its funny
@@guyfauks2576 pretty much. When it first premiered, conservatives hated it because it was a raunchy, crude, vulgar T.V show that revolved around kids swearing. It was highly controversial for a long time. It stopped being so around the 2010's, but picked up again in the 2020's with now liberals hating it.
I used to be a huge south park fan but I completely fell off when they started with the election stuff. I've never been politically minded so a ton of jokes feel like they just flew over my head and it was really depressing
Now it isn't very political tbh, still a bit political but not like season 19-21.
They had a divorce episode between sharon and randy where they basically broke the fourth wall and said how burnt out they were.
FINALLY THE 2nd SOUTH PARK MARK MADE
The prophesy has come true!
Me, who's never watched a single episode of south park in my life: Interesting.
U wat!?
You should check it out! It’s so good. (Season 5 is my personal favorite).
@@tabifiedler6944 there are like.. 287 episodes of south park. At this point I feel too daunted to even start the series by the episode count
@@user-gp5yz5yz4x that’s fair haha, it does take awhile to get through the whole series (but I think it’s worth it).
It's very mixed imo like sometimes you'll get a hilarious episode and sometimes it's just annoying or boring
Trey is so lucky,he got to be in the prestigious despicable me 3!
I hate how they made Randy the main character of the show. A little Randy goes a long way
The thing that killed South Park for me is that they’ve completely shafted the main boys for mostly Randy, an incredibly annoying and awful character
Randy’s great
Honestly I stopped caring about South Park, not that I hate the show, it's just that my interest in it lessened with time.
Same. Seasons 3-11 were the peak, and by 2012 my interest in it just started fading gradually. Even the creators admitted they were in the burnout stage when they made the "You're Getting Old" episodes, so this is to be expected.
As soon as I see the words Tegridy Farms, I switch over
Why do people hate tegridy farms so much?
I personally liked how they mentioned the Pandemic special during the Vaccination special, it was a neat little touch
LS Mark, you're 100% correct. South Park was a pretty good show, but overtime, it can be a little predictable at times. I think we can all agree that it needs to end at some point.
I come around 3 years in the future, and I’m happy to report South Park is thriving again, in fact in 2023 there was more Google searches for the show than any other point in its history
LS mark and South Park go together like peanut butter and jelly
TIME!
Three comments saying "first".
This is honestly the first time I've seen this in the 2020s
Feels weird to read that
This show might have gone down hill, but it did not fail As much as Family Guy or The Simpsons
An ad for South Park Phone Destroyer came on before this lmao
Funny how South Park turning into cereal killed the show.
In the words of the words of M Bison: *YES, YES*. Describes my feelings when I saw this in my recomended.
Before watching this video gotta say this, Trey and Matt were basically saying the old format was burning them out and a serialisation was the only way and doing it on a current topic was they could keep making episodes. By that, serialisation keeps it alive so the video title is a little bit spurious. It's production cycle demands the show being structured as such.
Serialization may of been what Trey and Matt needed to keep working on the show but the show itself became a diseased corpse because of it. In a decade no one is going to remember South Park as being a serialized masterpiece they are just going to remember that one time the funny man said "Fuck China". It's not even the serialization that's the core issue. It's how they chose to serialize the season with only a few social/political issues in mind. Everything has to be built around the "Fuck China" season rather than the story using "Fuck China" as a hook to connect character dramas. You can replace that with whatever hot button topic you wish. When character interactions are built on the plot rather than the plot built on character interactions... it doesn't make for great comedy.
This show was killed by a serial killer,
*serialization.*
CEREAL-ization
You got something wrong: season 18 was when they first experimented with serialization (in small elements) and it was a success, so *season 19* became the first serialzied season, and it too was a huge success. Season 20 was one long plotline, but season 19 was also full on serialized as well, just not to the same extent.
I thought all the weed stuff was just them reflecting on the insane cannabis boom in the US post-legalization in many states
Serialization didn’t kill South Park.
It just got it sick.
I liked it for a bit in the serialization but I haven't watched any since its mainly become the randy show and I don't find him funny anymore. I haven't watched any of the last part of the the last season because it sucks. This kind of hurts to see it suck so much because I grew up with this! I wasn't allowed to watch it but my mom worked nights when it started and I waited until she left and watched because I thought it was hilarious. This show for me is like how most people grew up watching the Simpsons. My friends and I never talked about the Simpsons as kids and I never discovered it until college. South Park was my love. I freaking hate randy I hate tegridy farms and I hate that they don't even do a real Halloween show or any like that and South Park Halloween and Christmas episodes were my love.
Just watch it? I dunno
Doesn't feel like it'd be that hard
That's how it always go, its better for shows to stop when you want more than for them to exist long enough to turn into garbage.
idk if you watched the vaccination special, but there’s zero tegridy in there. i think they’ve noticed that people are getting tired of it
@@kbscheme 0 tegrity? Come on, one of the episodes is entirely around Randy, and he only talks and acts around that fucking farm
@@beatrizferraz593 he's talking about the new episode
You’re literally reading my mind, I also thought the show stops really being good after season 19 and also find Put It Down to be one rare exception of a good episode beyond that point. Even my brother only prefers to look back at seasons 4 to 19.
That time just felt the most when Matt and Trey knew what they were doing.
I miss the old days before they just started copying what happened in society to an extreme
I think Matt and Trey just really stretched themselves too thin over the past several years. They had the sequel to their highly successful game theybwere writing, they had the serialized seasons that had an overarching narrative, and then had to come up with new topics to cover on top of all that. If anything then having less going on and getting a break since they really only had to write two long episodes instead of ten.
I personally love South Park’s serialization! Season 20 wasn’t my favorite, but I like that they switched things up to keep the show fresh. I love the serialization on a smaller scale, like Seasons 21-23. I can see why people aren’t a fan of it, though. At least the last two specials have been pretty great (in my opinion) :)
I REALLY hated Randy in You're Getting Old and the moment he moved to/opened up Tegridy Farms, that hatred grew even stronger.
He openly admits how unhappy he was in the aforementioned episode and once he decided to become a farmer, it feels like he wants to make his family feel just as miserable. But the worst thing about him is how (in the SHOW'S continuity, at least) HE was the one who started the COVID Pandemic.
HE shut the planet down, drove so many people out of business and killed so many lives. So, I'm sorry to all the Randy fans...but you've bet on the wrong horse here
Angry at fictional character who doesn’t exist
I highly disagree. HOWEVER. 20 is bad.
I agree with u
tbh, Season 20 was hard to follow at times, but I still found it funny.
One of South Park’s greatest strengths, especially with the later series is something neither Family Guy now The Simpsons have, the ability to make stories based around other people (yeah; the other shows do the odd episode but the main characters are still heavily involved) which is perfect for them when they are having trouble writing, the standard may not be as high but it still delivers no matter whether the four boys are involved or not. It’s become a show about the town rather than just Stan, Kyle, Cartman and Kenny.
The random kid with Clyde and Timmy is David. He got introduced as a new kid during the Yelp episode and has occasionally appeared in the background since.
I feel like he thinks he's not allowed to make positive videos.
maybe a little, negative journalism always sells more than positivity.
This was pretty positive though... if you actually watch it to the end.
I feel like South Park is going to end soon, they killed satan, mr Hankey’s gone, and the friends broke up, it all just feels like a build up to a big finale
Mr Hat came back, though.
South Park might be one of the rare shows that actually managed to rise out of seasonal rot.
I was watching a South Park clip on TH-cam, and I saw a comment which really struck a tune with me. It said "I miss when the boys actually acted like kids".
I hadn't watched South Park in a long time and saw the pandemic special and hated it so much I turned it off halfway through.
I actually really enjoyed the serialized seasons (prior to Tegridy Farms)! When they were airing on TV for the first time, I remember being so excited to see what happened next, since the episodes ended on a cliffhanger. I will agree that once Randy became the main character/the character the show focused on, it became a lot more "lifeless" (that's the best way I can describe it), and I felt like, yeah, okay, this is happening, and it's South Park, so it's kinda fun while also being topical, but the spirit wasn't there. And the most recent episode- the Vaccination Special- actually felt more like a send-off to the series than a new beginning to me. Matt Stone and Trey Parker have mentioned feeling burnt out by the show before, so I saw it as, "the four boys are no longer hanging out, and since South Park was born from them and their friendship, them not being friends anymore means the series is over, which is probably what Stone and Parker want". Including all these side characters from prior seasons to the end of the special kind of solidifies that feeling of it being the last episode, in my opinion. HOWEVER, I will definitely continue to watch the series if it goes on past this! You're right about it being interesting to see where the show will go from here.
TL;DR I liked most of the serialized episodes, I did not like Randy-focused episodes much, and I feel like the vaccination special is an ending more than a new beginning- but if new South Park episodes come out I would definitely look forward to them!
P.S.- If you want to make more South Park videos, go for it! You did a great job with this one and I would definitely like to see more. :)
Edit: Fixed repetitive use of "look forward".
Couldnt have said it better
I just wanna see more tweek and Craig ngl
god me too. the episode is one of my favorites, which is especially remarkable for a recent season episode, but I just really wish they do more of it. that's why put it down is my favorite episode of new south park, a big part of it is focused on tweek and Craig which I love and I'm so glad they did.
and not fucking randy.
No it’s gross that they’re putting that type of agenda on kids
🤢🤢🤢🤢 no gross
Honestly I don't agree. I feel like the Serialization helped bring South Park out of a rut. Yeah season 20 was kind of just a 3 hour movie that has a plot that falls apart in the latter half, but from seasons 21 onward I really enjoyed it. South Park is this whole world of characters and if they want to focus more on characters that are mostly ignored then I'd say that's a good thing, even if the exaction is not all that good, because it means that Matt and Trey are at least trying new things after working on this show for 20 years.
Matt and Trey are really trying to change the formula to avoid Family Guy levels of seasonal rot
South Park feels so corporate now
Some part of me think the reason for the shift in serialisation and character drama was because they wanted to have what Rick and Morty or similar shows have but they can't replicate it because this show is from a different time and it's not easy being transtioning to mostly self-contained comedy show to having a storyline is not easy.
eh, i still like it the problem is the trends of this generation and how they want to follow a continuity
yeah i don't get why so many shows do that
It's because of streaming, they assume everyone is binge-watching a season all the way through at once.
Good. continuity is good. Early southpark had continuity.
The status quo is god garbage goes stale real quick.
I think south park is k, the later episodes do have a decline tho
I still like South Park even with serialization
Same imo it's still good
yeah I don’t think it’s bad, I just liked it a lot better before
Me too
Tegridy Farms was one of the funniest things they did in South Park, IMO
At first it was funny but then they kept on doing it over and over again and it slowly became redundant even though I still love randy as a character I don’t think he can career the show for a spacial let alone a season
Same but that's probably because i started watching the later seasons
At some point, it would interesting to see Matt and Trey's original plan for the Hillary-wins story arc, but we probably never will, at least not in fully-realized episodes
Finally, Mark made another South Park video. Thanks Mark!
Isnt that random kid in cartman’s new friend the kid from the South Park games?
I’m pretty sure he’s the Mexican kid David from “you’re not yelping”
@@monasocks2072
Yup, he’s the kid whose mother owns a mexican restaurant
Seasons 1-17 relied on current events, but they were also written in ways that would make them timeless. With season 18+ at this rate, i can't imagine future audiences enjoyingthe series that much.
18 and 19 were still good. Everything afterwards meh.
As an OG who fell off around S19, my problem was never the serialization. I think that all mostly worked. It had more to do with the pressure you mention that Matt & Trey felt to always tackle current events & politics (after Team America). Specifically the expectation to represent or attack "both sides". The edge just kind of dulled and the material got...hackneyed. The show's slow lurch rightward in general, sort of laying the groundwork for this eternal cancel culture grievance with the PC Principal, all the trans panicky stuff, etc...not what I signed up for. Echoes of Dave Chapelle ngl. And I hear their Trump stuff is all pretty routine Orange Man Bad. Both sides achieved, yay. But I'll always remember the better days fondly, and I'm open to revisiting it eventually.
"Echoes of Dave Chapelle." Dave can do what Dave wants. It's cool that you don't like him.
@@Thor-Orion aww did a snowflake get offended because someone didn't like Dave Chappelle on the internet? :(
@@20035079 nothing offends me.
Korns Groovy Pirate Ghost Mystery was the perfect south park episode
Wtf no that's the worst episode that I nearly threw up.
@@enthusiastisch1922 nah once they started getting political it was getting actually terrible. lmfao but it’s YOUR opinion