MAKITA 18V Cut Out Saw XDS01Z
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The Makita 18V Cordless Cut‑Out Saw is innovative and allows for a common frustrating cutting application on the job site to be done faster, cleaner and easier.
It very quickly, cleanly, and with no dust. The depth adjustment of this tool is key and does an excellent of at preventing nicking wires behind the wall. When you think of saving yourself from repairing wires, this tool just paid for itself. Highly recommended. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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I'm just a regular homeowner with a ton of drywall work that I had to do on my 6000 sqft home, and this tool was the most used tool in my arsenal. Thank you for the video. The cuts are perfect using the v-notch on the plate. I saved a ton of money because I resued 85% of my boards since they were glued on, and I couldn't have done this with any other tool I've seen. It's also extremely useful when doing repairs since you can cut a perfect size piece for the hole. I don't have a vacuum attached, but the tool holds a ton of dust, some does leak out when moving the tool, so if you need dustless, get the Makita Backpack, I assume that fits the suction, because I couldn't find a hose that fit. I'm sure I could have found an attachment, but it wasn't easy to find. I love this tool, thanks for posting!
This is such a great channel. It answers so many of my questions. I’ve found drywall work to be intimidating. I did not know this tool existed. As a bonus, Makita is my tool platform.
i did a job where we had to cut out the hallway ceilings in three 20 floor apartments they where ten about meters long each. this thing would of been the holy grail of tools if we had one. definitely keeping this tool in mind
I have one and it makes the finest cut finish you could ever see and I think better than a factory cut absolutely precise and effective and when you hook a vacuum up to it virtually dust free I love this tool I'm Amazed by it I have cut out drywall with a knife and saw in the past and this tool is just perfect and precise
In commercial applications we use a kett saw. It is also a dustless tool but it retails for 500 dollars and it's corded. It could be considered safer because it is more of a plunge saw than a multitool.
This is perfect for remodeling/maintenance work where dust is not only unwanted but absolutely forbidden, such as occupied hospitals and nursing homes.
Now you’re making me get into cordless makita line. Time to loan 15 year Mortgage. Makita here i come 👊👊
Love to see companies being innovative.
Robert, I always learn something when watching your excellent reviews. Keep it up.
Thanks man, what did you pick up this time?
First of all, that this thing exists. Second that it is virtually dustless (a big deal when doing remodel work), and third that there are some downsides - not tool-less, blades are priced very high, and no case. All very good to know points before purchasing. Thanks!
Im trying to convince my old school dad to use these awesome power tools. These tools look like God to me lol. I've been stuck using handtools old school way. Smh. Change is coming!!! Great video
It’s good to use technology new and old, I grew up building house with hammer and nail- but the he first time I used a framing gun was a great day ...
I've seen one other tool review from you and frankly, I think these are some of the best. I'm so excited about this cut out saw from Makita. The pros, if you're unbiased, and I see honest reviews, and some tools that you don't like, I'll save some $$ The cons. As a tool junky, I'm always looking for great tools that make my job easier, safer, and more efficient. so if there is something great out there, well, you're gonna make me poor. I'm also a big Milwaukee fan and agree with Robert Maki. I would love to see Milwaukee compete with a better mouse trap
I got myself a Dremel Saw-Max DSM20 for these cut-out jobs, it is not a pro-tool, it is corded and does not have good dust collection compared to the Makita (but you can connect a vac). But it is a lot cheaper than the Makita so may be a good alternative for some people/jobs, it is really fast compared to using a multitool. The depth of cut is tool-less on the Dremel.
Thanks Rob
For your response 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I like the way you use your laser on the wall , I've just bought the new bosch green laser and it's good to see different uses other then just levelling
I actually have used my laser for more stuff like that than I have for leveling stuff. Lol
Craig H which level is that? The laser?
Craig H I have the DeWalt 12v 3 axis green laser. It was $500. I even use it when I eat lunch.
Fancy but still easier and more accurate to draw a level line since you can't see the laser next to the blade.
chalk line and cut. Takes mere minutes and costs way less
That is quite a niche tool, and appears to have been released in Europe first, (based on the metric measurements) but it looks to be very functional. Possibly not the best executed due to the lack of case and lack of hose adapters etc. Great and honest review!
Thanks
Hey Rob, Love your videos. Picked up this tool and wanted to connect it to my CT SYS. Looked all over fot the best way and the lease amount of connections. I purchased at Home Depot the 2-1/2 in. Power Tool Adaptor Accessory for RIDGID Wet/Dry Vacs (Part No VT1407) The smallest section of the accessory fits nicely inside the Makita dust port. Cut the accessory at the third step down. The CT SYS vac will fit nicely inside where I cut. Very simple and cheap. No tape needed.
JD Improvement love it thx for the tip
Thank you very much for the tip
I have a job coming up in a high end retail store where I have to make 5 cutouts in the ceiling. I use Ridgid tools but I'll buy this one. I love that backpack vacuum also.
I have this tools is great for dustless cut out applications, cuts fast and straight and very lite weight
What’s the blade life? I’m tempted and already on this platform
Thanks
@@djfglobal3377 is good just try not to hit screws or metal.
@@djfglobal3377 if you're cutting with the stud, use a magnet to find the screws and remove them, then cut. It will mike sure your won't bounce and damage your cut line and also help the longevity of the blades
Would you say this would be a good tool for 1/4" cabinet back cutouts? I'm always looking for a way to get easy cutouts for electrical and plumbing.
Cool new tool. Great job Rob.
John - you ready to join the team yet??
You guys are the best.
I'll have to get one when festool makes it
Really nice review
now this a beautiful tool👍
Why can't any one make a freaking standard size male and female dust port its 2019....
Because there is no "Standard" That is why we have groups in most industries -(to create standards). Evidently the power tool world doesn't want one. Each manufacturer gets to gouge customers for their special size hose/port adapter. These jerks don't want to give up that glorius 1000% margin they enjoy on being the only one to make a special fitting to fit this port on this sander. This wont happen until we customers demand it ,basically
They do all you need is some duck tape
It would be good if it could be bevelled to cut on a 45 as we cut a lot like that. Looks good though and great review.
Awesome tool I’m in my way to get it
Informative channel you have here. I've had my eye on the Makita drywall saw for an upcoming project, so thanks for the review. It was as I expected with Makita quality and innovation.
I would have liked to hear you mention what happened to those $13 saw blades when you hit that first drywall screw? How many can you smack before the blade is toast?
Also, great point about packaging. Enough with the bare tool only nonsense Makita.
Nice,really like makita gear, seems good for drywall. Just drywall ?
"WHen you think about saving from repairing wires, this tool just paid for itself"
Then I clicked buy on amazon.... and there goes $200
This it's a great tool, can anyone tell me if they have this tool in other brands such as ridgid or Milwaukee
Maxkil not yet
I own this tool, let me tell you why I regret buying it. 1) if you don't use a vac on it, you cant see what you're cutting, and the v notch doesn't line up with the blade, not sure why. 2) you can't cut all the way down to floor or ceiling, or flush against tile or baseboard and such which is very often what needs to be done. 3) I typically like to cut up the center of a stud, to use as a nailer, but it's very dangerous to do with this because you don't want to hit a screw and wreck the expensive blade. So you have to cut nailers. So this tool is basically making your job harder honestly. It's a silly gimmick tool. Sure it makes the cut dust free, but theres going to be dust when you pull that sheet of drywall off, most likely. There's most likely going to be dust made somewhere. You'll need a vac anyway. It sounded good on paper, but it wasn't worth it in the real world.
you still have it? id buy it off you lmao. idk if it was me id mark out the nails w a magnet and remove on your nailers if thats the issue you have
Yo la acabo de comprar. En el manual dice que se puede usar con hoja de cutter también. Ya la voy a probar para ver qué tal sale el corte y así te sale más barato
@@landonmaurer2453 exactly. Can easily find the screws or nails with a magnet, pull em, and cut.
Just like any tool you need to learn it's limitations and how to work around them.
@@timjd7964 that's the ten percent rule.... gotta be ten percent smarter than the tool.
Great stuff Rob. How does the tool react when running a cut up the stud line and hitting screws or nails? Will the tool hammer the fastener and jump out of the cut line?
Scott H it does a bit, sometimes it rides around jt, sometimes it jumps a bit
hey Rob. does makita have plans to release a diamond blade for the cutout tool so to use it on plaster walls?
Gret question Jeff, I'll ask. I will say that I used the existing blade on a plaster wall and it cut fine and was still sharp after the project, when we shop tested it. Hitting a screw may be another matter and a place where the diamond blade would faire well.
Wow cool. I just know from experience both regular recip and multi tool blades burn up pretty quick in plaster. Unless our Canadian plaster is freakishly more durable
If its anything like you - I'd go with the freakishly part ~ jk
Lol
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz and where can I buy the blades would be another question for them please. I purchased mine 4 months ago through HD online. When it came in the included blade was no where to be found! HD put me in touch with Makita and four months later it’s still not here! Not happy at the moment!!! Evidently Makita’s customer service has gotten much worse!!!!! Another good reason this unit should come in a Hard case!
What if I hit a screw or nail will the blade brake ?
I just bought one of these as I do nearly all repair and remodel. I'm constantly opening a small piece of wall to move a fixture or get access to something. It is HANDS DOWN!!! worth everything I paid for it. It is 99.9% effective at dust collection. If fact I make more dust pulling out the sheetrock after cutting it than the tool does cutting the accesses panel. The blades are indeed expensive, but in reality, how many are you going to need to buy? The amount of time saved is worth way more than the cost of one blade. As he says, the only issues I have are the mm markings for blade depth, time to adjust the blade, and the challenge of connecting it to dust collection (non standard diameter). After solving the dust collection attachment with a rockler universal kit, the rest is just peanuts. Once you try it, you'll wish you had one for all those other jobs you already did. A GREAT tool!
Did you find an adapter for attaching a vacuum to it? I run 1 1/4” hoses or have the cen-tec with all sorts of accessories and none of them fit the makita port on this.
@@EveryDayCivilianBlog I use a fein multi step down soft adapter which I can then shove the festool vac into the inside of. The friction holds it pretty well.
Would this work on older Plaster walls that have a wood/metal lathe in/behind them? Or will it just kill the blade? I see there is a separate wood/drywall blade offered....and no mention of metal.
cpt awesome yes for the plaster
Can you cut in a circle pattern (to install a round ceiling speaker) ?
Same question here...I install Atmos and this tool looks interesting. How well does it cut circles?
don't drop it, the base bends easily an will never be right, then the clear guard won't stay in place. however I love it, and use it every day.
cool tool! what happens to the blade when you hit drywall screws? is it bi-metal?
Gary Caruso yes bi- metal
Cool tool !! How about finding blades for it ?
How does it handle drywall screws when you hit them?
this
Yes 0 the blade is flexible and it seems to go on either side of it. Ive had a few directs hits, when I heard contact I adjusted the tool trajectory - no issues to blade
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz good to know. Thanks! Just concerned about those high blade costs.
Great review Rob. You do a very thorough job. Because of this I’m conflicted. I’m not in the Makita line. I saw this tool awhile ago and considered it. I like that backpack vac as well. Tired of lugging around the vac corded to a wall. But, by the time I get the tool, two batteries and blades. I think I’ll still stick with my multi tool. Unless Makita does a corded version or DeWalt makes a version of this in the 20v line.
Any tool that you are going to use in multiple positions, along with vacuum hose attached , might as well be "corded" ! I will wait for that option , along with the blade prices dropping 50% !!
Hey Rob couple questions. Tool seems amazing. Did you cut through lathe and plaster with the wood blade then? Or is the drywall blade durable enough to cut through lathe? If it's wood blade, the wall i'm taking apart is 5/8" (think that's pretty typical for lathe, so how do you finish the cut? Lastly, is this a patented design by Makita or do you see other manufacturers coming out with similar tools in the near future? Cheers man, a tool that could make fast easy and dust free cuts in lathe and plaster is worth its weight in gold!
Steven Smith it'll cut 5/8 plaster no problem.... not sure on how long this blade will last, I did hit a few screws and it seemed to flex around them
how about lathe? And plaster dulls anything non carbide almost instantly, it's like sandblasting - are the teeth carbide?
Do you see other manufactures making this particular blade and knocking the price down
Additionally mine was made in Japan not in China and I think the quality is spot on
Is the orbital action different than that of a jigsaw? It seems like the teeth on the bottom of the blade would be useless if they were the same.
Is there anything other than the dust collection that makes this better than a jig saw?
William Butler not really sure, i'm figuring those teeth help the plunge cut
1/4" Short stroke. Jigsaw has like 1" or more.
festool add on a Makita video ha!
If you hit a screw in the wall, is the blade immediately toast? That could add up.
no, not at all - it held up to at least 1/2 dozen or more strikes
You should said how deep to set the blades when you are going to cut 1/2 inch drywall Or the difference sides
Only thing it needs is a extension pole so you can cut 8-10' ceilings from the ground. That would be bada$$
good luck with cutting a straight line while steering it from the ground lmao
This is going to work. “Feel like a kid in a candy store”, someone might say.
Maybe come Black Friday month at Home Depot, they’ll put it in a kit with accessories and drop the price.
As far as the metric system, I’m starting to see it more and more here in the US. I think we’re all going to have to get used to the idea. Maybe now when I go visit my cousins in Mexico we’ll understand each other a little better, when we’re at the table talking.
No chance Home Depot does the same black Friday deals with makita every year it seems
I wish Milwaukee had one like this
Research proves innovative leader is consistently Makita . Everything is better in motor and switch life, battery recharge time and “1st in the field innovation “ Spend 3 decades using power tools and you’ll agree , regardless of the color , lol !
How about cut round holes? saying 500mm diameter hole in the ceiling. Thanks
Cheng Xu yes. shouldn't be a problem
Great tool but I wonder why they didn't make the blade as a regular t shank blade so it could be used in any jig saw.
If they did that then they would not be able to sell you a 200 tool
because you would brake $30 blade on first touch with ordinary jigsaw. Ordinary jigsaw moves blade up and down. this tool moves it forward and up in circular motion.
how does the blade handle drywall nails?
not good, just use a magnet and remove the nails first
can the makita drywall blade be used with a jig saw?
nosaj03 no
Blade cost is ridiculous.
M Cuddy its new- similar to multitools when they were new
Needs to be refined. If it could function and a jig saw and beef up that guide then it be much butter.
I wish they would make it in mains power corded.
Parts and features not included that should be! $320 Cdn!
Extra blade, vac hose adapter, onboard blade storage, storage case.
I also find the angle of the handle to be quite odd.
I don’t know why they didn’t make it similar to a jigsaw?
Any Issue hitting nails in the studs ???
murrmann7234 happens but the lasts a long
time
Thank you for the review but why would one get this tool when the Makita XOC01Z Cut-Out tool is already available and probably a more versatile tool than this saw? Does having one negate the need for having the other?
20K Under Sea I don't have a cut out tool but I'm guessing it does not have dust collection
You're correct in your guess that it does not have dust collection. It's just very versatile in terms of routing around studs and outlets (like the Roto-Zip but limited to drywall) without any damage to the surface or the tool. Please consider reviewing the cut-out tool as I'm sure there are people who will appreciate it since there's really no serious review out there.
20K Under Sea ill look at it, I recently reviewed the Hilti and liked it
does this cut plaster and lathe nicely?
Yes
Dude! Whats up with that vac backpack?
Michael McDonald was testing it out- works great
what's the best vac to use with this, the Milwaukee m18 backpack?
Charles F Makita has a backpack vac that works off same platform
@@ConcordCarpenter do you prefer that? I've got both platforms, but I'm going pretty hard on M18 right now. So I've no problem buying that backpack if it works, I've been looking at it for a year. Getting tired of lugging big shopvacs. And the little m18 box shop vac is excellent, but the backpack bit looks very appealing.
Charles F I like the canister on the Milwaukee better
@@ConcordCarpenter thanks, ordered one. And ordered the Makita. Be interesting to see how it works on lath and plaster. I'm doing a whole house rehab off M18 now, no juice yet. So far hasn't been an issue, but I just had to order a transfer pump so my plumber can do his drain test.
Seems like a great tool, but the ergonomics are kindsa weird. I think they could have done a better job than just adding on to a drill handle/grip. The handle and trigger just seems awkward for how you would expect to use this. Should have been more like a jig saw or even router style. Seems like they just pulled stuff out the scrap bin for this one. Sure it still works great, but could definitely improve the ergonomics
Would you say to stick with one tool brand, or get the best stuff from all sorts? I see you've got loads of different brands 👍🏽
redstihl definitely try stick with one brand unless you want different chargers and batteries to lug around
I try to stick with 1-2 brands
I have like 4 brands.... Dewalt multi tool beats milwaukees.
Milwaukee drywall gun beats Dewalt. Milwaukee 1/2" drill beats Dewalt.
Ryobi has a Weed whip that is lighter and cheaper than the others and it's perfect for the wife.
Bought a worx cordless pressure washer for cleaning drywall tools on site.
Does it handle pasta boards from the 50’s?
jdamurph yes
Can it cut a foam insulation?
Programistyczna Samodzielność dont think so
If it had imperial measurements marked on it, it would only go backwards!
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz and where can I buy the blades would be another question for them please. I purchased mine 4 months ago through HD online. When it came in the included blade was no where to be found! HD put me in touch with Makita and four months later it’s still not here! Not happy at the moment!!! Evidently Makita’s customer service has gotten much worse!!!!! Another good reason this unit should come in a Hard case!
Ron H online, but I'll forward this to Makita
I'm gonna cut a jig saw blade see if it works
Does the machine go up and down the same amount as a jig saw or more like a multi tool ?
Viral Clown like a jig saw
I do a lot of upgrades as an electrician in existing buildings and this would be amazing. Shit, I could put the drywall back up myself as save us some money over hiring a drywall install.
JESUS, those blade prices
Can't they just make a blade for their jigsaw that'll do this?
This is about keeping the dust contained.
This tool does more than move up and down, it also moves back to front, as you can see at 1:41. In a jigsaw, the teeth at the bottom of the blade would be useless.
@@isaackvasager9957 Must admit: Never heard of that. But yeah, in that case, it could probably work. You'd have to do a side by side to see if there are any clear benefits to either.
So even with the Makita backpack and u still had to use electrical tape? Wow man. I love this tool but the hose adapter issue is killing my enjoyment. I have a longer 1in hose that I use but when the duck tape slips off mid cut it makes me go crazy. Thought a Makita vac might solve it. Guess not.
thing is, drywall just isn't that hard... (an m12 sawzall with a metal blade does a surprisingly good job, and then there are the 45 other tricks any pro knows). How does it handle wood lath under plaster? Or metal lath under plaster?
I've got Makita already, and I hate my rotozip, so I'd buy this in a heartbeat if I knew it could handle real world stuff in OLD houses
I'd bet it doesn't fair well against stuff like that. You'd probably have to still use the ol sawzall or dremel. BUT i cant say for sure. But for regular drywall cutting, this seems easy, clean and precise
@@toxicgracie3772 I bought it, been pleased for plaster. I hit the lath with a multitool
:) have watched longtime on this one.. but would need get the vaccum backpack then also.. hate when cut drywall overhead and look like hade an meet&greet with pablo escobar ^_^
HogeN1337 I suggest a vacuum, the backpack is optional
ofc.. but like always when useing a vaccum the hoze or cord is few inches to short always ^^
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price? less than 100?
The blades are less than $100 lol ;-)
It's a professional specialty tool in the $200 range.
Common knowledge. Screws and nails are in the middle of the stud. That blade looks like one hit and it will be garbage. I know after making your line run a magnet. I will stay with the rocker plunge saw. Yes, it is corded and with the diamond blade, I have cut so many linear feet of plaster. On one blade.
good tool, but I wish the blades were stronger
Looks almost like a jigsaw
Specialty Tool=Specialty Blade$
No Thanks!
Kreepy Pasta very good comment...
It only makes sense for professionals.
This tool will pay for itself for remodelers, plumbers and anyone who has to open walls up to do work. Clean lines, fast and no mess
Some guys will never get it
These blade are expensive for amateurs but amateurs won't buy this tool itself anyway... In my company when buying in a bundle it's reasonable and noone is emotional about it. Compare it to HILTI and it's becoming cheap .... ^^
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Looks nice but ~$15 per blade?!
It's only money.😂 add it to the bid...
26 bucks for those blades. Man how is it that a few packs of blades cost the same as the bare tool.
Such a rip off. They must make 5000% profit on their genuine makita blades
I have one, the blades are very expensive, and dont last that long. Becomes a very expensive tool.
I still feel it pays for itself in cleanliness and efficiency
That pricey for the blades... crazy...
tunin tunin better now
I just checked, I found the cutter for 120,- but the blades here in Europe cost 35,- Crazy...
anyone else think he looks like robert deniro and joe pesci meshed together? oh yeah F THAT BLADE PRICE..
Why multi tool, this cut out tool and Sawzall blades are so friggen expensive i have no idea.....its stamped steel.....a circular saw blade with carbide teeth is cheaper......just don't get it
Guessing it’s way better at collecting dust than a circular blade
Just fro f a jigsaw blade in half and use a jigsaw save all
Your money
complete over kill... Tools for having tools. Multi-tool does a great job and can use other bit and or adaptors..
Handy Andie | Professional Property Maintenance & Construction Melbourne Victoria I disagree, this is way faster, more accurate and dust free. It's a bit niche but if you remodel then this is a home run
had that taking out a sheet to the jig, not a new machine 😅I will not buy that
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Makes me sad to see you withering away. You were my favorite sexy handyman. Now I need to go and find someone else...Good review though...
Yu T. What do you mean.?
What happens when you hit a nail?