Yep you say it right, if you need to be perfect it is not the right ball....the Semtex material looks like cheapo stuff. You always need to be perfect with this material. The hk22 addition might improve it though, instead of becoming industrial waste😁
It took me forever to learn that sometimes it IS the ball. Sometimes it's just the wrong shape for the lanes or the way you are throwing it that day. It is a hard concept to get because sometimes you throw it great with the wrong ball and it strikes and then you fight to throw the that same shot again. Mentally, I just don't always remember that lesson. I guess that is where practice really pays off. I try to throw everything I bring to league in the practice period just to know what is working but I still make the wrong choices. How about a Pure Envy compared to the Extreme Envy?
Exactlyyyyy. I throw most of the balls I bring in practice also. The hard weeks are when every single ball strikes and looks good 😬🫣 then I get confused haha I believe I'm getting a Pure Envy to review/compare with Brianna soon, so hopefully she also has an extreme envy since I don't. Also update on your previous suggestion: we have a Budget Ball comparison coming soon!
Good viedo. I have the low flare. I like it. Better on sport patterns. Then I do on house shots. In fairness though. If a bowling ball thrown by me, and a snail had a race. The snail would probably win.😃 Also I don't think the center I bowl my house leauge in believes in oil.🙄 Not really a good sign when I'm actually bowling better in my sport shot leauage. Even if it is a different center.
Based on what I tried at the end of the video, that would make the most sense to me! The lower differential with the stronger coverstock didn't like when I tried to open my angles and circle it more.
Nice video. To me it looks like you should only use the low flare if the regular one is over reacting on the backend. I do see Joe they could work good together though
I love your TH-cam handle 😄🦂 how fitting! Yes, for sure. I used the LF balls (ex: envy tour) a lot on medium, flat patterns. I would say the original scorpion would be right in the middle. I really liked that ball when I had it a few years ago and used it a lot. It would be smoother than the Strike and cleaner through the fronts + quicker response than the Low Flare.
I love the 9" of total flare I get out of the scorpion low flare. The ball is a beast. I'll use it on anything. Lofting gutters or playing up 2. But I ordered a strike to compliment the low flare when the miss room isn't quite there.
I am so curious to see this comparison because all the videos I saw with the Scorpion Strike remind me of the Scorpion Sting. The Scorpion LF is such a low DIF I never would have thought to compare it to the Strike.
It was a suggestion in a comment otherwise I'm not sure I would have compared them either. Although, now that I have, I think they both have spots in my bag!
@@bowlwithVALue Have you considered comparing the Strike to the Sting? I love my Scorpion Sting. Right now I use the Scorpion Hybrid and the Sting and the LF and it makes a great 3 ball arsenal. I start with the LF then go to the Hybrid and for game 3 I move way left into the Sting. I think the Sting and the new Strike would be very similar but with the HK22 additive it would be interesting to see what differences there are between the 2 balls.
I would love to except I didnt drill it 2 years ago and it's "retired" now so I likely won't be able to get it directly from Brunswick... I think you're on the right track with the HK22 vs not. I'd guess that the Strike would be just a touch more responsive, like when I compared the old Radical Conspiracy to the new one with HK22.
Very good video. It makes me really want to try the scorpion strike now, but I'm also interested in the new super cuda powercore. The core numbers are pretty close in 14 pounds. I wonder if surface adjustments could be made to either ball to get a very similar reaction to the other
Great points! They could be similar for sure. I haven't thrown the super cuda powercore yet... Is your question referring to these 2 scorpions or the Strike vs super cuda powercore ?
Could you explain “low flare” a bit more? My understanding is that since the flare rings are so close to each other, that means there’s less ball touching the lane and therefore less hook. But if a low flare ball has four flare rings and a high performance ball has four flare rings that are spaced farther apart, wouldn’t both balls have the same amount of surface touching the lane?
I have both medium diff and low flare in my arsenals. Low flare just means less hook, while medium diff/medium flare has more of hook. The lower the differential the closer together the track flare rings (flare separation). The higher the differential the further apart the track flare rings. It’s not how many rings the balls have but how the rings are spaced out. The quantity of rings on the other hand means how many rotations you impart on the ball. Bigger space between the rings means the ball travels and covers more boards from right to left as it hooks in. So, it’s kind of ideal for players who hook the lane a lot and stand far left, making the inverted C shape. For straighter players, down and in type of guy, the low flare balls travel less boards from right to left, keeping the ball straighter, more like a hockey stick shape. I use low flare when my first ball starts hooking so much after transition so I am able to stay right, or about the same spot.
As we've chatted before love the LF, it could be very versatile. I suggest 3.0 or similar to help break down the pattern then once the 3.0 goes early switch over to the LF for the rest of the night. Probably straighter at first then as it gets drier get left and watch it hook.
I had a Web Tour Hybrid and it was a low flare ball. I traded it for a Storm Proton Physics. With my low RPM I need all the help I can get creating shape. I experienced the same thing you did with the "Low Flare"
@@surfboardshack3327 Depending on who I am bowling with/against either a Jackyl Mythic or the Pirahna PowerCor and I usually end the night with the Hammer NU
Yep you say it right, if you need to be perfect it is not the right ball....the Semtex material looks like cheapo stuff. You always need to be perfect with this material. The hk22 addition might improve it though, instead of becoming industrial waste😁
Hahah I don't know anything about Semtex....interesting!
Would like to see a comparison with the Hammer Effect and Vaporize Zone.
Coming next week :)
It took me forever to learn that sometimes it IS the ball. Sometimes it's just the wrong shape for the lanes or the way you are throwing it that day. It is a hard concept to get because sometimes you throw it great with the wrong ball and it strikes and then you fight to throw the that same shot again. Mentally, I just don't always remember that lesson. I guess that is where practice really pays off. I try to throw everything I bring to league in the practice period just to know what is working but I still make the wrong choices.
How about a Pure Envy compared to the Extreme Envy?
Exactlyyyyy. I throw most of the balls I bring in practice also. The hard weeks are when every single ball strikes and looks good 😬🫣 then I get confused haha
I believe I'm getting a Pure Envy to review/compare with Brianna soon, so hopefully she also has an extreme envy since I don't. Also update on your previous suggestion: we have a Budget Ball comparison coming soon!
Good viedo. I have the low flare. I like it. Better on sport patterns. Then I do on house shots.
In fairness though. If a bowling ball thrown by me, and a snail had a race. The snail would probably win.😃 Also I don't think the center I bowl my house leauge in believes in oil.🙄 Not really a good sign when I'm actually bowling better in my sport shot leauage. Even if it is a different center.
Valerie’ so this means that I need to change my line to a tighter line ?
Compared to my hazmat @ 2000 I need tighten the line a bit
Based on what I tried at the end of the video, that would make the most sense to me! The lower differential with the stronger coverstock didn't like when I tried to open my angles and circle it more.
Nice video. To me it looks like you should only use the low flare if the regular one is over reacting on the backend. I do see Joe they could work good together though
Yes, that's exactly it!
So would the low flare be better on a short(er) pattern? And how do you think these compare to the original Scorpion?
I love your TH-cam handle 😄🦂 how fitting!
Yes, for sure. I used the LF balls (ex: envy tour) a lot on medium, flat patterns.
I would say the original scorpion would be right in the middle. I really liked that ball when I had it a few years ago and used it a lot. It would be smoother than the Strike and cleaner through the fronts + quicker response than the Low Flare.
I love the 9" of total flare I get out of the scorpion low flare. The ball is a beast. I'll use it on anything. Lofting gutters or playing up 2. But I ordered a strike to compliment the low flare when the miss room isn't quite there.
That's amazing!! It really is a beast. and I think the Strike will compliment it well!
I am so curious to see this comparison because all the videos I saw with the Scorpion Strike remind me of the Scorpion Sting. The Scorpion LF is such a low DIF I never would have thought to compare it to the Strike.
It was a suggestion in a comment otherwise I'm not sure I would have compared them either. Although, now that I have, I think they both have spots in my bag!
@@bowlwithVALue Have you considered comparing the Strike to the Sting? I love my Scorpion Sting. Right now I use the Scorpion Hybrid and the Sting and the LF and it makes a great 3 ball arsenal.
I start with the LF then go to the Hybrid and for game 3 I move way left into the Sting.
I think the Sting and the new Strike would be very similar but with the HK22 additive it would be interesting to see what differences there are between the 2 balls.
I would love to except I didnt drill it 2 years ago and it's "retired" now so I likely won't be able to get it directly from Brunswick... I think you're on the right track with the HK22 vs not. I'd guess that the Strike would be just a touch more responsive, like when I compared the old Radical Conspiracy to the new one with HK22.
Very good video. It makes me really want to try the scorpion strike now, but I'm also interested in the new super cuda powercore. The core numbers are pretty close in 14 pounds. I wonder if surface adjustments could be made to either ball to get a very similar reaction to the other
Great points! They could be similar for sure. I haven't thrown the super cuda powercore yet...
Is your question referring to these 2 scorpions or the Strike vs super cuda powercore ?
@@bowlwithVALue I was just wondering how similar they would be at the same surface. I would like to see you try the Super Cuda
I'm honestly not sure since I haven't thrown the Super Cuda (yet)....I'll see if I can get my hands on one!
Could you explain “low flare” a bit more? My understanding is that since the flare rings are so close to each other, that means there’s less ball touching the lane and therefore less hook. But if a low flare ball has four flare rings and a high performance ball has four flare rings that are spaced farther apart, wouldn’t both balls have the same amount of surface touching the lane?
Flare less is less of the ball touching the lane which is lower hook potential.
I have both medium diff and low flare in my arsenals. Low flare just means less hook, while medium diff/medium flare has more of hook. The lower the differential the closer together the track flare rings (flare separation). The higher the differential the further apart the track flare rings.
It’s not how many rings the balls have but how the rings are spaced out. The quantity of rings on the other hand means how many rotations you impart on the ball.
Bigger space between the rings means the ball travels and covers more boards from right to left as it hooks in. So, it’s kind of ideal for players who hook the lane a lot and stand far left, making the inverted C shape.
For straighter players, down and in type of guy, the low flare balls travel less boards from right to left, keeping the ball straighter, more like a hockey stick shape.
I use low flare when my first ball starts hooking so much after transition so I am able to stay right, or about the same spot.
I literally could not have explained it better myself. Thank you @roughrosa and @TrevorPrinceMusic!!
@bowlwithVALue you're welcome 😁. I had to have it explained to me too. And I'm a simpleton so that's how it was explained to me
Makes perfect sense and that's exactly how I understand it!
Thanks for compare both. I do have Scorpion Strike and did practice. I found the best spot to start and which arrow to cross.
🙌 great news!
@bowlwithVALue now bad news for myself cuz my thumb is hurting
oh no!
As we've chatted before love the LF, it could be very versatile. I suggest 3.0 or similar to help break down the pattern then once the 3.0 goes early switch over to the LF for the rest of the night. Probably straighter at first then as it gets drier get left and watch it hook.
Yesss, love this suggestion! I would likely do the same -- wouldn't start with the LF, but def have it as an option when the lanes breakdown.
I had a Web Tour Hybrid and it was a low flare ball. I traded it for a Storm Proton Physics. With my low RPM I need all the help I can get creating shape. I experienced the same thing you did with the "Low Flare"
What is your ball down from the proton?
@@surfboardshack3327 Depending on who I am bowling with/against either a Jackyl Mythic or the Pirahna PowerCor and I usually end the night with the Hammer NU
That makes a lot of sense! I've used the LF balls (envy tour) more on medium, flatter patterns vs house shots.
Great video. Love the pro tips!
Thanks so much!