@@finniemac3334 that McLaren is lighter than the porsche, it may not have significantly more power, but it should still have been alot faster especially in a roll that is if indeed the power is 644BHP.
The engine in our cars have a bit more boost lag than the 911Turbo S. From a dig the 911's response is instant, plus the AWD leaps. From a roll, once the turbos are spooled up, it'd be a much more interesting race. Also, keep in mind the track they're on is VERY short - less than a 1/4 mile from start to the finish line, so initial response is everything on this channel to win races.
The car is lowered on an aftermarket suspension. It was bouncing like all hell. Also, MP4-12Cs have tons of suspension issues in general, such as accumulators. Fortunately, my 570S doesn't have most of these problems. Also fun fact, OEM springs for the 570S are made by Eibach.
@@rage12345678 ah ok, thanks 😊. Eibach springs? Nice! I had those on my 97 cobra's back in my younger days. Originally I purchased them to lower the car for a better looking stance but it completely transformed how it handled. It was worth the money.
@@rage12345678 ah ok, thanks 😊. Eibach springs? Nice! I had those on my 97 cobra's back in my younger days. Originally I purchased them to lower the car for a better looking stance but it completely transformed how it handled. It was worth the money.
It literally hurt my soul watching the more powerful, lighter McLaren get man handled by the more than capable Porsche. 😥 My soul feels like the McLaren's. Crushed! Great runs though!
616 crank is probably around 525hp to the wheels which is only a 75hp+ tune. Seeing that a Turbo S does low 10s all day, peak high 9s and a 12C does low 11s all day, peak high 10s, going to need a lot more than 75 hp to make up that difference
Porsches are beast from a dig, but McLarens are beast from a roll! This is going to be interesting considering the McLaren is considerably lighter and not much horsepower difference!
@@Dewan_N_Only yeah I know, but this wasn't a truly high performance version of the McLaren like the 911 Turbo is! I've seen the 720 McLaren walk past a Porsche 911 Turbo in other videos! Not many cars can match a 911 turbo 0 to 60!
@@mattyoz0 true, but the Porsche has all-wheel drive and almost nothing beats that car to 60 mph! My only point was, this really wasn't a fair race with this particular McLaren
I had forgotten performance #s for the MP4-12C but per MT and R&T, they ran low 11s at 130+mph. Mags run on a prepared surface though. I never saw a MP4-12C run at the strip so can't say if mag times were realistic or repeatable. Street launch like this figure a stock MP4-12C should run mid 11s at 127-130, but def not as consistently as the Turbo S which legit runs low 10s at 135+. The MP4-12C in the video is tuned and looks to be on a 295+ D/R or high perf summer tire so I'm confused how it got spanked. The Macca owner is in the comments- did you personally see it dyno 600WHP or have other MP4-12C owners dyno'd 600WHP with this tune done? Also, it's possible the Turbo S was tuned and owner ain't sayin. Which would explain things a bit. Either way, cool video, nice to see exotic cars Sam!
Whoever tuned that 12C either doesn't know what they're doing, or flat out lied. Stock 12Cs constantly run in the mid to high 10s on street tires at the track. I ran a flat 11.01 second 1/4 mile at 132MPH (video on my channel) not using launch control, I personally didn't want to destroy the clutch because the track was crazy sticky, so just rolled out of the gate. With launch control that's an easy 10.7, or 10.8. The fastest stock 12C ran a 10.3 down in FL, better elevation. I know the Porsche has way better tech than a 10 year old 12C, not to mention AWD, but I've seen tuned 12Cs destroy many cars, specially from a roll. Something in this video doesn't add up. The 12C is nearly 500 pounds lighter than a 2022 911 Turbo S Convertible at least according to Google.
I love it when 9 1 1's humble supercars...plus they're available in jelly beans colors like the supercars, have high price tags if you've gotta have THAT passing match but the one thing about 9 1 1's is they don't see the dealership like that McLaren and are TRUE daily drivers, a set of Blizzaks and your out and about in the snow❗️❗️
@@vondeezl2961 I guess this is the age old debate but since the 911 has evolved from 1964, a car you can CLEARLY see its roots, that wasn't a supercar and either is the 9 1 1...IMHO. To me, a supercar is a mid-engined, "look at me" styled, no practicality car...the 9 1 1 is one of those. Yeah it's got the perf and can be spec'd to cost insane 💸 but it's no supercar...IMHO and it's why I love them so much👍👍
@@klasseact6663 Semantics for so many!! The super car moniker is usually reserved for cars with above and beyond performance (regardless of manufacturer) the Turbo S definitely falls into THAT category!! Now, the moniker "Exotic" is usually reserved for the McLarens,Lambos, Ferraris, Bugattis, etc. of mid engine, in your face body lines!! Your NOT Superman because you LOOK "Super" you MUST BE SUPER!! MY two cents or three!!
@@klasseact6663 👍 As I have already eluded to previously, I'm a Stang guy, (to the bone marrow) But I was always a car guy FIRST!! I can appreciate almost ALL cars, foreign or domestic. Not really feeling this EV revolution, but I can appreciate some aspects of IT! But WE are All allowed to have preferences right? 😉
You're definitely not going to get it done with a MP4!! You'll need a 720s or better!! Also, I think the only thing that was tuned on the MP4, was the radio!😆 The Turbo S is NO JOKE!! I'm a Stang guy, and I can concede THAT!!
Surely the 992 Turbo S is fast... But if you look at numbers from 100-200km/h in both cars the mp4/12c is 0.1 sec faster stock… Maybe something wrong with that car if it is tuned. What do you think?
i knew the mclaren had no chance.. the turbo Porsche will be very hard to beat. at 3:37 im pretty sure something broke there.. and i heard it again at 4:48 mclaren's build quality is very questionable . it looks very bouncy and there was some crazy sound
@@joshuapounds7646 IIRC the 992 turbo s still haven't matched the best 1/4mile time of the 720S, even on public roads and let's not talk about rolling races, the 720S absolutely destroyed the Porsche there. So in a nutshell, between the two cars, the Porsche is the quicker car (only in a 1/4mile), the 720S is the faster car.
I have a properly tuned 12c in Ontario, if you'd like to recreate this video, message me and we can see if it was the car or if the porsche really is that fast!
Well, the Porche totally redlighted on the first start. But even so, there is no possible way those two cars are making supposedly about equal power and the Mclaren is over 600 pounds lighter but the Porche smoked it like that. Someone is lying.
I mean stock 12c is about 610hp..so an extra 30 more ponies with that little torque isn’t going to be enough with the GOAT of launches or roll races (911 turbo S)
I’ve watched enough CarWow to know two things .
1) Porsche 911 Turbo S doesn’t lose
2) Tuned cars never work the way they’re supposed to .
have you watch 911 Turbo S vs 765LT already?? 😂😂
@@rianrahmanto8069 the 765lt was dyno’d at 770whp by dragtimes and 780whp by Hennessey. That’s stock to the wheels, that’s insane and very underrated
@@PapiAndrey typical mclaren, always understats their car 😂
I can assure you my tuned car works exactly the way it’s supposed to lol
@@benguini. expectations can be subjective
So impressed with what Porsche has been doing. My goodness it's such a beast!!
Plus do full headers and exhaust with stage 1 tune on the porsche and it will unlock another 150-200hp on wheels 😀
Nah the tuners lied to him.
Do you know how fast the new 911 is that’s an outdated mclaren from 2012 and it was pretty close from a roll
@@finniemac3334 that McLaren is lighter than the porsche, it may not have significantly more power, but it should still have been alot faster especially in a roll that is if indeed the power is 644BHP.
@@finniemac3334 mclaren has the "same power" as the porsche but considerably lighter. It should've pulled the porsche. Something isn't right.
@@Theredeemedchild2 my uncle has a Brand new turbo S it dyno over 700 whp
The engine in our cars have a bit more boost lag than the 911Turbo S. From a dig the 911's response is instant, plus the AWD leaps. From a roll, once the turbos are spooled up, it'd be a much more interesting race. Also, keep in mind the track they're on is VERY short - less than a 1/4 mile from start to the finish line, so initial response is everything on this channel to win races.
I love the races between everyday attainable cars, but every once in a while seeing two super cars race is amazing!
Sam, ❤ all your videos. But I think this is the first time that I had goosebumps watching this. Wow, that Turbo S was incredible. Great timepiece btw.
Porsche Turbo S's have always been insane!
The violent launch in that Porsche 🤯. Who needs a theme park or Disney world, just buy a Porsche
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
I legit thought I clicked on a Car Wow video , only to see Sam . This channel is getting better all the time .
The color of that Porsche is awesome
12c sounds very good!
Awesome race!! Love the 911💥
Porsche absolutely WRECKS 🔥
That McLaren looked like it was ready to shake apart. Thought it would at least take a W in the roll
Seriously! Pretty rough ride.
Wow! You aren’t playing around now. Those are two really quick cars. Great video!
No surprise on the dig. The Turbo S hangs with the Model S Plaid till 60 or so then the Plaid walks away but that Turbo launches 🚀 like a monster!
That 12c so nice n da 911 in my favorite color great race ‼️
May not be the most exotic but those Porsche's HANDLE THEY BUSINESS!!!
Man this McLaren sounds 🎵🔥🔥🔥😮and if you listen to it with headphones you lose your ears 😂
Greetings and blessings 🙌❤️
Were there some pots and pans in the McLaren? Still quick.
Even though I am a Porsche fan boy, I love this body McLaren!
What was that noise coming from the McClaren? It sounded like metal clinking together.
The car is lowered on an aftermarket suspension. It was bouncing like all hell. Also, MP4-12Cs have tons of suspension issues in general, such as accumulators. Fortunately, my 570S doesn't have most of these problems. Also fun fact, OEM springs for the 570S are made by Eibach.
@@rage12345678 ah ok, thanks 😊. Eibach springs? Nice! I had those on my 97 cobra's back in my younger days. Originally I purchased them to lower the car for a better looking stance but it completely transformed how it handled. It was worth the money.
@@rage12345678 ah ok, thanks 😊. Eibach springs? Nice! I had those on my 97 cobra's back in my younger days. Originally I purchased them to lower the car for a better looking stance but it completely transformed how it handled. It was worth the money.
Porsche always delivers
McLaren owner: I said tune not de-tune!! 🧐😳
.....and that 911 TurboS was a vert? Oh lord. What a missle. Nice to see the McLaren hang at higher speeds.
Awesome races Sam! Thank you for keeping us all entertained! Now please bring us some sleeper car vs super cars 💪
Really I’m starting love your channel
The camera quality super good
Why does it sound like there’s pots and pans in the McLaren
It literally hurt my soul watching the more powerful, lighter McLaren get man handled by the more than capable Porsche. 😥
My soul feels like the McLaren's. Crushed!
Great runs though!
How are you crushed? Who thought a much older, rwd and barely having the same hp McLaren would beat the 911 from the dig......
Actually, I expected more horsepower from the McLaren when you said it was tuned.
Yeah... because an MP4-C already makes 616hp. So why a tune for the same horsepower? Better daily driving?
616 crank is probably around 525hp to the wheels which is only a 75hp+ tune. Seeing that a Turbo S does low 10s all day, peak high 9s and a 12C does low 11s all day, peak high 10s, going to need a lot more than 75 hp to make up that difference
You're all correct. I didn't think about it clearly. Thanks.
Great video Sam...my Dream car 911 Turbo S 🤤🤤😍😍😍😍👌🏽👌🏽
Hahaah when porche driver said “smoke show” I busted out laughing
Please race McLaren MP4-12C vs Acura NSX Type S 🔥🔥🔥
New sub! Liked 🙏☺️👍👍✌️
Porsches are beast from a dig, but McLarens are beast from a roll! This is going to be interesting considering the McLaren is considerably lighter and not much horsepower difference!
Got smacked in the roll as well haha
@@Dewan_N_Only yeah I know, but this wasn't a truly high performance version of the McLaren like the 911 Turbo is! I've seen the 720 McLaren walk past a Porsche 911 Turbo in other videos! Not many cars can match a 911 turbo 0 to 60!
@@jamescox1806 yeah because a 720 has over 700hp. Btw this is the slower convertible turbo s.
@@mattyoz0 true, but the Porsche has all-wheel drive and almost nothing beats that car to 60 mph! My only point was, this really wasn't a fair race with this particular McLaren
@@mattyoz0, did you hear the rattles that it made every now and then? What was that?
Porsche are the drag kings
That Porsche good lord !! 😫😫
The funny thing is, the 911 Turbo Coupe is Faster!
AWD owns dig races on the street.
Legit weapon.
I had forgotten performance #s for the MP4-12C but per MT and R&T, they ran low 11s at 130+mph. Mags run on a prepared surface though. I never saw a MP4-12C run at the strip so can't say if mag times were realistic or repeatable. Street launch like this figure a stock MP4-12C should run mid 11s at 127-130, but def not as consistently as the Turbo S which legit runs low 10s at 135+. The MP4-12C in the video is tuned and looks to be on a 295+ D/R or high perf summer tire so I'm confused how it got spanked. The Macca owner is in the comments- did you personally see it dyno 600WHP or have other MP4-12C owners dyno'd 600WHP with this tune done? Also, it's possible the Turbo S was tuned and owner ain't sayin. Which would explain things a bit. Either way, cool video, nice to see exotic cars Sam!
i wholefully agree
Whoever tuned that 12C either doesn't know what they're doing, or flat out lied. Stock 12Cs constantly run in the mid to high 10s on street tires at the track. I ran a flat 11.01 second 1/4 mile at 132MPH (video on my channel) not using launch control, I personally didn't want to destroy the clutch because the track was crazy sticky, so just rolled out of the gate. With launch control that's an easy 10.7, or 10.8. The fastest stock 12C ran a 10.3 down in FL, better elevation. I know the Porsche has way better tech than a 10 year old 12C, not to mention AWD, but I've seen tuned 12Cs destroy many cars, specially from a roll. Something in this video doesn't add up. The 12C is nearly 500 pounds lighter than a 2022 911 Turbo S Convertible at least according to Google.
Turbo S is absolutely ridiculous off the line
And that s a convertible turbo s the coupe is even faster. Great runs.
Saw that win coming lol
I love it when 9 1 1's humble supercars...plus they're available in jelly beans colors like the supercars, have high price tags if you've gotta have THAT passing match but the one thing about 9 1 1's is they don't see the dealership like that McLaren and are TRUE daily drivers, a set of Blizzaks and your out and about in the snow❗️❗️
My friend, the 911 Turbo S....IS a supercar!! in performance and price!
@@vondeezl2961 I guess this is the age old debate but since the 911 has evolved from 1964, a car you can CLEARLY see its roots, that wasn't a supercar and either is the 9 1 1...IMHO. To me, a supercar is a mid-engined, "look at me" styled, no practicality car...the 9 1 1 is one of those. Yeah it's got the perf and can be spec'd to cost insane 💸 but it's no supercar...IMHO and it's why I love them so much👍👍
@@klasseact6663 Semantics for so many!! The super car moniker is usually reserved for cars with above and beyond performance (regardless of manufacturer) the Turbo S definitely falls into THAT category!! Now, the moniker "Exotic" is usually reserved for the McLarens,Lambos, Ferraris, Bugattis, etc. of mid engine, in your face body lines!! Your NOT Superman because you LOOK "Super" you MUST BE SUPER!! MY two cents or three!!
@@vondeezl2961 it's a great debate and you make air tight points👍👍
@@klasseact6663 👍 As I have already eluded to previously, I'm a Stang guy, (to the bone marrow) But I was always a car guy FIRST!! I can appreciate almost ALL cars, foreign or domestic. Not really feeling this EV revolution, but I can appreciate some aspects of IT! But WE are All allowed to have preferences right? 😉
911 Turbo S for me thanks 😊
911 Turbo S has been the king for a long time. You can even use it as a daily drive and you will have no issues.
Great video!!
That mp4 seems slower than stock.
I believe they don’t know what they’re doing 😅
porsche turbo is a beast with pdk ... best programmed stock transmission !!!
Porche turbo s = ultimate
Wow stepped it up a notch
That low end torque advantage and superior AWD allows that porsche to just gooooo away from the MClaren
Nothing can beat the turbo s in stock form!
A decade apart 😂
I bet that MClaren is on its 4th gearbox
Hello Mr George how much you pay for the tuners? $20? An that’s too much they no good
Viva 911 Turbo S 💪👊
I have nothing to say about the turbo s again, that car is just unreal
The new 911 Turbo S are the kings of the street.....
Whats was the times?
That McClaren sounds like it's falling apart
At the biginning it sounded like it can take down a buggatti but it was a all bark no bite
The 911 Turbo S sounds great and it's an insanely fast car, but I'd take the McLaren purely for the sound!
2012 mclaren vs 2022 911. How about 2012 mclaren vs 2012 911 turbo
Exactly
That mp4 was shaking the crap out of the driver lol. What a mess lol. While the 911 smoked it’s ass and was smooth like a Bentley
Porsche......the only substitute is itself
Every car will eventually get gapped...I thought the McLaren would have been faster...That 911 Turbo S is no joke!!
From MC LAREN to MCLYING 😂😂😂😂
You're definitely not going to get it done with a MP4!! You'll need a 720s or better!! Also, I think the only thing that was tuned on the MP4, was the radio!😆 The Turbo S is NO JOKE!! I'm a Stang guy, and I can concede THAT!!
You need 765 LT to get the job done lol, I watched carwow the 911 destroyed the 720’s
Throw out that tuner. The Turbo S is crazy fast but a tuned MP4 shouldn’t be left behind like that on a roll.
how does mclaren get such little torque from a twin turbo v8 i don't know
Beautiful cars but that Porsche my goodness.
This is all wrong, the mclaren launch control doesn't involve blipping paddles, it auto shifts in L, you people have no idea how to drive this thing.
also, lol what kind of road is that? are you guys in some third world country?
The tuner only cleared the obd codes and did the oil change in the McLaren and said it's 600 whp lmao 🤣
Am I Deaf? I'm dead serious why does the Mc sound like a 5.2 V10 NA from Audi/Lamborghini when pulling?
I knew that Porsche was going to carry the day, for the other car they just wanted 💰.
making more longer the race line
Surely the 992 Turbo S is fast... But if you look at numbers from 100-200km/h in both cars the mp4/12c is 0.1 sec faster stock… Maybe something wrong with that car if it is tuned. What do you think?
The McLaren was gaptized and to celebrate he was taken to gapplebees lol
Poor tune. I leave 992 Turbo S's on a roll race by about 3 cars length in my 12c.
Wicked race
i knew the mclaren had no chance.. the turbo Porsche will be very hard to beat.
at 3:37 im pretty sure something broke there.. and i heard it again at 4:48
mclaren's build quality is very questionable . it looks very bouncy and there was some crazy sound
Yo wtf did he call it a mclaaaren?
1st time I've seen a car tuned to lose... lololol!
They must have tuned it down 😂
The Mclaren sounded like it had loads of rattles when decelerating.
The owner should have kept his M5. Maybe race the Mclaren against a base 911, it might have a chance.
A better race would have been this Porsche 911 Turbo Turbo against the McLaren 720
It got destroyed 😂😂😂go watch carwow. The 765LT is rather faster than the 911 turbo s
@@joshuapounds7646 ye bec 720 more than 100hp more
@@joshuapounds7646 IIRC the 992 turbo s still haven't matched the best 1/4mile time of the 720S, even on public roads and let's not talk about rolling races, the 720S absolutely destroyed the Porsche there. So in a nutshell, between the two cars, the Porsche is the quicker car (only in a 1/4mile), the 720S is the faster car.
Turbo S never disappoints. The McLaren is a huge disappointment!
I have a properly tuned 12c in Ontario, if you'd like to recreate this video, message me and we can see if it was the car or if the porsche really is that fast!
I think you need Nissan GTR nismo vs Porsche 911
Well, the Porche totally redlighted on the first start. But even so, there is no possible way those two cars are making supposedly about equal power and the Mclaren is over 600 pounds lighter but the Porche smoked it like that. Someone is lying.
Need to race a stock 720
Father of the all rocket cars …. Only 911 turbo S.
Porsches are just amazing. However the mclaren is sexy.
911💥
I mean stock 12c is about 610hp..so an extra 30 more ponies with that little torque isn’t going to be enough with the GOAT of launches or roll races (911 turbo S)
Get the map done... It's now 12 years old.. Let it unleash the ponies 👌
@@s.godbur3589 agree..I’m sure there’s more power you can take out of a 12C
Superchip can extract 81 bhp & 94.. NM
2bhp shy of 700 bhp
@@s.godbur3589 hmmmm…might be on the market for a 12C🤔
Porsche the best
I think you need a GTR vs Porsche911
GTR will never beat Porsche 911 Turbo S
Parecia que o Porsche estava correndo sozinho.
Ele fez barba, cabelo e bigode.
Where the hell is the Elantra 🤷♂️😂😂
Instead of using "Gapplebee's" as a term I think we should just use "He Turbo S,'d him"🤔