Hey folks! Below is the complete list of upgrades as well as the recommended Sidegraded and Further Upgrades recommended in the build. Also, let me know in the comments if you agreed with my recommendations, what other cards you would recommend yourselves, and what other commanders from the Lord of the Rings set you want to see me cover in the future! ---------------------- Creatures ---------------------- Gimli of the Glittering Caves >>> Adeline, Resplendent Cathar Grey Host Reinforcements >>> Faramir, Prince of Ithilien Flamerush Rider >>> Thraben Doomsayer Selfless Squire >>> Cemetery Protector Humble Defector >>> Coppercoat Vanguard Harsh Mentor >>> Thalia's Lieutenant Archivist of Gondor >>> Mirror Entity Village Bell-Ringer >>> Adriana, Captain of the Guard Marshal’s Anthem >>> Holga, Relentless Rager Taunt from the Rampart >>> Keeper of Keys Frontier Warmonger >>> Odric, Master Tactician Dearly Departed >>> Archetype of Imagination Zealous Conscripts >>> Éowyn, Fearless Knight Palace Jailer >>> Cathar Commando Fealty to the Realm >>> Devout Chaplain Evolving Wilds >>> Knight of the White Orchid Terramorphic Expanse >>> Keeper of the Accord Unbreakable Formation >>> Boromir, Warden of the Tower ---------------------- Instants ---------------------- Banishing Light >>> Chaos Warp Lost to Legend >>> Generous Gift ---------------------- Sorceries ---------------------- Earthquake >>> Raise the Palisade ---------------------- Enchantments ---------------------- Increasing Devotion >>> Outlaws' Merriment ---------------------- Artifacts ---------------------- Call for Aid >>> Azorius Signet Sunset Revelry >>> Boros Signet Crown of Gondor >>> Izzet Signet Commander’s Sphere >>> Fellwar Stone Heirloom Blade >>> Horn of Gondor ---------------------- Lands ---------------------- Wind-Scarred Crag >>> Unclaimed Territory Tranquil Cove >>> Castle Ardenvale Field of Ruin >>> Demolition Field ---------------------- Sidegrades ---------------------- Keeper of the Accord >>> Blade Historian Fiend Hunter >>> Mass Appeal Holga, Relentless Rager >>> Mother of Runes ---------------------- Further Upgrades ---------------------- Fiend Hunter >>> Loran of the Third Path Visions of Glory >>> Cathars' Crusade Court of Ire >>> Kindred Discovery Adriana, Captain of the Guard >>> Coat of Arms Denethor, Stone Seer >>> Esper Sentinel Odric, Master Tactician >>> Rick, Steadfast Leader Keeper of Keys >>> Sun Quan, Lord of Wu
I was able to buy about 20 or so of these upgrades from my local card shop, and that same evening I went 3-0 against my usual friend group. I was able to close out one of the games with Archetype of Imagination and I closed out another game with Mirror Entity. Extremely solid upgrade. Thanks!
I loved how you introduced Eowyn and her character. It really makes me wish they had put in a card of Merry to play along with her for when she killed the witch king
The focus on triggering Eowyn the turn she comes down is something I think the precon really missed. Been really lame playing her on turn 5 with no payoff and just passing. Great job again!
I appreciate the detailed rationale you include for each addition/removal! I already have a Neyali tokens and a Kyler humans deck so I already have most of your suggested cards, I’ll have to give these changes a try! The only major omission I saw was Call the Coppercoats, my favorite instant-speed Human token maker!
Highly highly recommend herald of hoofbeats from the knights tribal deck. 99 cent card and it’s a human that provides evasion for all your tokens and eowyn. also for that card advantage, I would also recommend Neyali, sun’s vanguard, we’re making so many tokens, give ‘em double strike AND cast stuff off the top of your library ! Anyways that’s my two cents, other than that, great video! :)
A pet card I like that fits perfectly in this deck is Scheming Fence. It's a 2 drop human that turns off the activated abilities of a nonland permanent and steals it for itself. At worst it can shut off your opponents Sol Ring. At best imagine stealing a Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker!
Guys this is one of my best Decks in my playgroup! Kindred Discovery, Shared Animosity and Greymond are the best cards! They glue the Humans pretty good together and give you a huge edge over your opponents. My Favourite Deck and i am glad i built it. :)
Love the video and upgrades. It aligns with the same upgrades as the command zone. Which gives optionality and more rigor to the deck. Love the content!
Thanks again for this awesome update video. I really like the way u explain stuff =) They are easy to understand even for a noob player like me. Thanks a lot sir =) Love ffrom Germany
In the future, can you also create a deck list with only the upgrades? And maybe the deck needs more protection. - Giant's Amulet - Swiftfoot Boots Neyali, Sun's Vanguard would also be a good addition.
Solid upgrade. For these combat-focused builds, you might mention Sword of the Animist or Sword of Hearth and Home, especially with the UB box-topper printings they just had that should be bringing down their prices a little.
Ok I have to drop by and leave a comment. I wasn’t interested in this one, I only wanted Food one to play/upgrade and the Mordor one to strip it for cards. But man…after watching this, I got myself one just 2 days ago and I’m about to order the upgrades! Love the work you’ve done here! Especially how you’ve incorporated alternative commander and his subtheme as a draw engine that will make the game more fun and engaging at more casual tables. Not my cup of tea honestly, but I see and appreciate the great work you do! P.S. In your opinion, which is the best human tribal commander? Eowyn has a fair shot as she’s a token producer with card advantage stapled onto her and she opens up 2 additional colours for us. Though blue feels weird for me here; it’s an afterthought. It makes for a few generically good cards, but very few old human tribal classics are blue. On the other hand, we only got some decent tribal support and commanders for humans in GW and WB recently, so I’m not sure how much of an actual miss the blue is here. P.P.S. I still eatch your every video and you’re still my favourite MtG EDH content creator. It’s especially nice bc your videos usually come out at the night between Saturday and Sunday for me, and I’m usually on-call then. So whenever I get up in the middle of the night for work, after I’m done I’m always like “Well, since I’m up, let’s see if Grazzet’s new video is out!”
@@GrazzetMTG i top it even more. I think you make the best Upgrades and Decklists. Also your videos are very good and detailed and explain every cut and replacement very good.
Love these upgrade vids, have used them plenty in the past - but for these LotR decks, I'm tempted to keep them together as a sort of battle box and only upgrade from the main set to keep the flavor and aesthetic. Any shot at you doing a few short videos on flavor-specific upgrades?
Glad you enjoy the builds! Sadly, there are no plans to do a more "in flavor" build for these, but honesty - for Food and Fellowship // Riders of Rohan at least - you can probably run them out of the box as is or with only a handful of changes from the Main LotR set and they would still be pretty good. Not as good as a fully tuned up build, but pretty still pretty solid and you do get style points - so there is that!
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Neyali, Suns' Vanguard would be a fine addition as another human that can turn all our tokens into double strikers and generate card advantage through her pseudo-impulse draw, and Myrel, Shield of Argive can also find a home here as another tribe member who prevents our opponents from casting spells and/or preventing abilities from being activated on our turn to help keep our board state intact while getting us some non-tribal token to help screen attacks for us as our humans crack in.
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Hey folks! Below is the complete list of upgrades as well as the recommended Sidegraded and Further Upgrades recommended in the build. Also, let me know in the comments if you agreed with my recommendations, what other cards you would recommend yourselves, and what other commanders from the Lord of the Rings set you want to see me cover in the future!
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Creatures
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Gimli of the Glittering Caves >>> Adeline, Resplendent Cathar
Grey Host Reinforcements >>> Faramir, Prince of Ithilien
Flamerush Rider >>> Thraben Doomsayer
Selfless Squire >>> Cemetery Protector
Humble Defector >>> Coppercoat Vanguard
Harsh Mentor >>> Thalia's Lieutenant
Archivist of Gondor >>> Mirror Entity
Village Bell-Ringer >>> Adriana, Captain of the Guard
Marshal’s Anthem >>> Holga, Relentless Rager
Taunt from the Rampart >>> Keeper of Keys
Frontier Warmonger >>> Odric, Master Tactician
Dearly Departed >>> Archetype of Imagination
Zealous Conscripts >>> Éowyn, Fearless Knight
Palace Jailer >>> Cathar Commando
Fealty to the Realm >>> Devout Chaplain
Evolving Wilds >>> Knight of the White Orchid
Terramorphic Expanse >>> Keeper of the Accord
Unbreakable Formation >>> Boromir, Warden of the Tower
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Instants
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Banishing Light >>> Chaos Warp
Lost to Legend >>> Generous Gift
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Sorceries
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Earthquake >>> Raise the Palisade
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Enchantments
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Increasing Devotion >>> Outlaws' Merriment
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Artifacts
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Call for Aid >>> Azorius Signet
Sunset Revelry >>> Boros Signet
Crown of Gondor >>> Izzet Signet
Commander’s Sphere >>> Fellwar Stone
Heirloom Blade >>> Horn of Gondor
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Lands
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Wind-Scarred Crag >>> Unclaimed Territory
Tranquil Cove >>> Castle Ardenvale
Field of Ruin >>> Demolition Field
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Sidegrades
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Keeper of the Accord >>> Blade Historian
Fiend Hunter >>> Mass Appeal
Holga, Relentless Rager >>> Mother of Runes
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Further Upgrades
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Fiend Hunter >>> Loran of the Third Path
Visions of Glory >>> Cathars' Crusade
Court of Ire >>> Kindred Discovery
Adriana, Captain of the Guard >>> Coat of Arms
Denethor, Stone Seer >>> Esper Sentinel
Odric, Master Tactician >>> Rick, Steadfast Leader
Keeper of Keys >>> Sun Quan, Lord of Wu
A little wrong there about Sun Wun but everything else was fantastic!
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I was able to buy about 20 or so of these upgrades from my local card shop, and that same evening I went 3-0 against my usual friend group. I was able to close out one of the games with Archetype of Imagination and I closed out another game with Mirror Entity. Extremely solid upgrade. Thanks!
I loved how you introduced Eowyn and her character. It really makes me wish they had put in a card of Merry to play along with her for when she killed the witch king
Glad you enjoyed it!
The focus on triggering Eowyn the turn she comes down is something I think the precon really missed. Been really lame playing her on turn 5 with no payoff and just passing. Great job again!
Same with Abaddon and Marneus Calgar from the 40k precons. They're really keeping the ceiling low so you have to go out and buy more.
I appreciate the detailed rationale you include for each addition/removal! I already have a Neyali tokens and a Kyler humans deck so I already have most of your suggested cards, I’ll have to give these changes a try! The only major omission I saw was Call the Coppercoats, my favorite instant-speed Human token maker!
I upgraded my deck a few months ago. It's just stomping my table now 💪
Highly highly recommend herald of hoofbeats from the knights tribal deck. 99 cent card and it’s a human that provides evasion for all your tokens and eowyn. also for that card advantage, I would also recommend Neyali, sun’s vanguard, we’re making so many tokens, give ‘em double strike AND cast stuff off the top of your library ! Anyways that’s my two cents, other than that, great video! :)
Subbed. Enjoying watching your vids. Excited for Hosts of mordor vid.
A pet card I like that fits perfectly in this deck is Scheming Fence. It's a 2 drop human that turns off the activated abilities of a nonland permanent and steals it for itself. At worst it can shut off your opponents Sol Ring. At best imagine stealing a Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker!
Awesome video, the upgrades really help the deck perform better and stronger. Thanks for the great upgrade guide!
Glad you enjoyed!
Guys this is one of my best Decks in my playgroup! Kindred Discovery, Shared Animosity and Greymond are the best cards! They glue the Humans pretty good together and give you a huge edge over your opponents. My Favourite Deck and i am glad i built it. :)
Love the video and upgrades. It aligns with the same upgrades as the command zone. Which gives optionality and more rigor to the deck.
Love the content!
Good upgrade. Also one of the better formats for upgrade videos I've seen.
The main deck is a lot of fun, but I just bought the cards to upgrade the deck, and can't wait to try it out.
You are Amazing! Thank you for this upgrade!
Thanks and you're welcome!
Thanks again for this awesome update video.
I really like the way u explain stuff =)
They are easy to understand even for a noob player like me.
Thanks a lot sir =)
Love ffrom Germany
In the future, can you also create a deck list with only the upgrades?
And maybe the deck needs more protection.
- Giant's Amulet
- Swiftfoot Boots
Neyali, Sun's Vanguard would also be a good addition.
if youve found a decklist with just the upgrades please let me know!!
Super solid upgrade. You reminded me of a few cards I missed in my build. Thank you.
Thanks for recommending on this video the deck upgrades and changes.
Great vid! I think I'm only missing a few cards from the upgrade, and they aren't even expensive pieces I'm missing.
Solid upgrade. For these combat-focused builds, you might mention Sword of the Animist or Sword of Hearth and Home, especially with the UB box-topper printings they just had that should be bringing down their prices a little.
Selfless squire won me plenty of games tbh
Love your videos, super looking forward to the Host of Mordor video!
Ok I have to drop by and leave a comment.
I wasn’t interested in this one, I only wanted Food one to play/upgrade and the Mordor one to strip it for cards. But man…after watching this, I got myself one just 2 days ago and I’m about to order the upgrades!
Love the work you’ve done here! Especially how you’ve incorporated alternative commander and his subtheme as a draw engine that will make the game more fun and engaging at more casual tables. Not my cup of tea honestly, but I see and appreciate the great work you do!
P.S.
In your opinion, which is the best human tribal commander? Eowyn has a fair shot as she’s a token producer with card advantage stapled onto her and she opens up 2 additional colours for us. Though blue feels weird for me here; it’s an afterthought. It makes for a few generically good cards, but very few old human tribal classics are blue. On the other hand, we only got some decent tribal support and commanders for humans in GW and WB recently, so I’m not sure how much of an actual miss the blue is here.
P.P.S.
I still eatch your every video and you’re still my favourite MtG EDH content creator. It’s especially nice bc your videos usually come out at the night between Saturday and Sunday for me, and I’m usually on-call then. So whenever I get up in the middle of the night for work, after I’m done I’m always like “Well, since I’m up, let’s see if Grazzet’s new video is out!”
I’ve been loving these deck techs! Im hoping you do a deck tech on Shelob, Child of Ungoliant!!
I think it's weird that Eowyn and Rohan in general is Jeskai. They feel more Boros or Naya, the blue just feels off.
Thank you as always!
My pleasure!
Go Humans!!! Great video man ❤❤❤
really good upgrade
Glad you think so!
@@GrazzetMTG i top it even more. I think you make the best Upgrades and Decklists. Also your videos are very good and detailed and explain every cut and replacement very good.
@@Polemion I 2nd that. Love grazzets decktechs!
I've been waiting for this one!
Hope it was worth the wait!
Easy to follow build thx
Happy to hear it and you're welcome!
Thanks again!
Any time!
Ty!!
Love these upgrade vids, have used them plenty in the past - but for these LotR decks, I'm tempted to keep them together as a sort of battle box and only upgrade from the main set to keep the flavor and aesthetic. Any shot at you doing a few short videos on flavor-specific upgrades?
Glad you enjoy the builds!
Sadly, there are no plans to do a more "in flavor" build for these, but honesty - for Food and Fellowship // Riders of Rohan at least - you can probably run them out of the box as is or with only a handful of changes from the Main LotR set and they would still be pretty good. Not as good as a fully tuned up build, but pretty still pretty solid and you do get style points - so there is that!
For this i make my own proxies. Did it with my Tyranid Deck. Its some work but in the end its great to have a tuned deck within the full flavor
can you do the sauron pre con deck upgrade? I think self mill would be good theme with it.
dont agree with taunt from the rampart, that card wins games
I found Professional Face Breakers to be a worthy creature
Excellent as usual
Could Neyali and Myrel fit in this deck?
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
Neyali, Suns' Vanguard would be a fine addition as another human that can turn all our tokens into double strikers and generate card advantage through her pseudo-impulse draw, and Myrel, Shield of Argive can also find a home here as another tribe member who prevents our opponents from casting spells and/or preventing abilities from being activated on our turn to help keep our board state intact while getting us some non-tribal token to help screen attacks for us as our humans crack in.
@@GrazzetMTG thank you so much
I would love to find these decks at 40 but thats not an option anymore
It never was. I did get this one and food and fellowship for $50 though.
Have u got a list of just the addons?
Why no Theoden strength restored?
Because it’s illegal, it involves colours outside the commander
Total 30 cards for upgrade??
Bump
love the content, dont love the voice inflection. talk normal lol
What a shit comment, you sound like a fucking joy to be around.
No, I love his style.