Hey folks! Included in the post below is the complete list of upgrades made to the deck, as well as my additional upgrade suggestions for your convenience. Also, be sure to let me know in the comments in you agree / disagree with my upgrade suggestions, if there are any inclusions you thing I missed, and what commanders from Modern Horizons 3 you' like to see me build in the future! ----------------------- Eldrazi ----------------------- Mutated Cultist >>> Herald of Kozilek Ulamog's Nullifier >>> It That Heralds the End Inversion Behemoth >>> Sowing Mycospawn Drowner of Hope >>> Conduit of Ruin Skittering Invasion >>> Nulldrifter Elder Deep-Fiend >>> Breaker of Creation Titans' Vanguard >>> Pathrazer of Ulamog Sifter of Skulls >>> Flayer of Loyalties Bismuth Mindrender >>> Kozilek, the Great Distortion ----------------------- Core - Ramp ----------------------- Ruins of Oran-Rief >>> Path of Annihilation Ugin's Insight >>> From Beyond Kozilek's Return >>> Kozilek's Unsealing Ancient Stirrings >>> Thran Dynamo Vile Redeemer >>> Thought Vessel Suffer the Past >>> Chromatic Lantern ----------------------- Core - Draw ----------------------- Temple of Silence >>> Up the Beanstalk ----------------------- Sidegrades ----------------------- Flayer of Loyalties, >>> Skittering Cicada Azlask, the Swelling Scourge, >>> Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter Eldrazi Displacer >>> Vedalken Orrery ----------------------- Additional Upgrades ----------------------- From Beyond >>> Echoes of Eternity Azlask, the Swelling Scourge >>> It That Betrays Morophon, the Boundless >>> Void Winnower Pathrazer of Ulamog >>> Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Ulamog's Dreadsire >>> Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Angelic Aberration >>> Emrakul, the World Anew Ash Barrens >>> Eye of Ugin
The only reason why I'm not getting this deck or build is because I already have two five color commander decks in dragons lead by the Ur-dragon itself and allies lead by general Tazri herself and I have a cololess Eldrazi deck and so also I feel buying this deck would defeat the purpose and uniqueness of having an actually colorless deck but that doesn't mean I didn't grab the new colorless Eldrazi to add to my current colorless Eldrazi and yes numerous people have recommended that I do buy this deck for improvements and each time I've said I already have what I want and am happy with what I have.
You totally forgot Ulamog, the defiler here LOL as he also obliterates our budgets and fits perfectly here as well as he obliterates half of our opponents libraries literally just upon being cast and gets +1/+1 counters on him equal to the highest CMC card in exile and then gets annilator X where X is the number of +1/+1 counters on him and did I forget to mention he has ward sacrifice two permanents and you get all of this on a pretty big 7/7 body for 10 CMC meaning not only can he be played here but absolutely anywhere. Ulamog, the defiler more like the obliterator as that is literally what he does with his mere presence and yes I do play him in my Eldrazi deck sue me for being stupid powerful
10:01 You are absolutely right about Bismuth Mindrender being overall worthless and useless in this deck but we all know the perfect commander for it hands down bar none: Felix, five boots as it does have a combat trigger for us to outright exploit and that Felix will definitely double up on and is yet another free theft effect for us to take advantage of. On a seperate but related note I find it ironic how many free theft effects exist in Dimir and how Gonti, canny aquisitor neither supports them or is supported by them as Felix doubles up most to all of them making Gonti by comparison come off as worthless or useless unfortunately not saying it's bad just Felix is so much better.
We'll see if he can beat out Coram, the Undertaker on the polls (Azlask is currently in 2nd place) for the 1st build after the precon upgrades, but even if he isn't, we may see him again in future polls so stay tuned!
What would i replace for ulamog the defiler, i was opening playbooster with the boys and my buddy pulled him and blessed me with him along with all the eldrazi synergys
Great video again dude! Skittering cicada is an absolute gem... nothing like like a 3 mana creature becoming a 22/22 Trample after casting a Titan and Copying the affect. UNDERRATED!
@@BraveSirPaul Skittering cicadas ability triggers on cast… ulalek copies the titan spell, and then copies all triggered abilities on the stack. It gets +10 from Ulamog (for eg) when you cast it. Then you can pay the 2C because it is an Eldrazi spell and then copy all triggered abilities so Skittering cicada gets another +10 +10
Nulldrifter: I am pretty sure, that evoke is a copyable characteristic. So evoking Nulldrifter and copy the spell let you still sacrifice both. it's the same reason why copies of kicked spells also count as kicked.
Upon further investigation you are indeed correct! It appears I was confusing myself with ETB copy effects rather than copy effects that occur on the stack - as ETB ones like Reflections of Littjara would bypass evoke but effects that copy on the stack like Ulalek would not. Sorry for the flub there, though I would still say its a good include despite that if only for the flexibility of it letting us play it for 3, 5, 7, and 9 mana for draw intially or draw & evasive annihilator bodies later.
@@GrazzetMTG 706.10 To copy a spell, activated ability, or triggered ability means to put a copy of it onto the stack; a copy of a spell isn’t cast and a copy of an activated ability isn’t activated. A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs. (See rule 601, “Casting Spells.”) (...). if we follow the ruling, doesnt that mean it also checks if it was evoked and u dont get anything from it. Not the carddraw since it doesnt copy the cast trigger nor the nulldrifter itself if it was evoked?
Ulalek does NOT double the ETB triggers cause creatures enter the battlefield AFTER they have resolved and thus are no longer on the stack. Just sayin.
You are technically correct - though the end result ends up being the same - as any Eldrazi that we copy are going to end up entering the battlefield twice after Ulalek's ability resolves (Once when the original ETB's and once when the copy ETB's), resulting in us getting 2 ETB triggers anyway.
@@GrazzetMTGI've said it before and I'll say it again the only drawback Eldrazi have is they're absurdly freaking expensive as otherwise there really nothing wrong with them as we don't bash the opposing players for having counter strategies for Eldrazi as they are that powerful as most Eldrazi especially in the higher rarities demand immediate answers and can be dealt with but must be dealt with immediately or there is a chance you'll lose the following turn and this is also directly why at play tables as powerful and awesome as Eldrazi are why most if not all of the other players will gang up on the Eldrazi player as a properly built deck can and will dominate all of the other players if given any amount of time for set up this is also why they're now infamously called the not so fun or hated tribe as well.
I love the upgrade guide for this deck. Since I went over and above to upgrade the last Eldrazi deck that came out, the titans will be bouncing between the two of them . Thanks again Grazzet!!!
I’m pretty sure the nulldrifer with still go away, unless arena is wrong on arena the copy of nulldrifter is still evoked and both die, although still very good
Loving the upgrades & breakdowns given! One thing just, Emrakul the World Anew isn't a good target for Ulalek's copying effect, since she makes you sacrifice all creatures you control when she leaves the battlefield, so copying her causes you to ultimately lose your board when you have to resolve the Legend rule
Fantastic video, i have added in all of these upgrades and they work great! I am also adding in a Strionic Resonator to double on triggers, what would you suggest i take out for this?
$180 at my LGS but a couple trade ins and I got it for free with a couple packs and I pulled a foiled Grist. Decent win. Going to give these additions a try 👍
First of all: even though I am a noob (I’ve only been playing MTG again for a few months), I think your Pre Con upgrades are really some of the best! Nonetheless, I have two questions that maybe you or your community can answer: Did you consider "Forerunner of Slaughter"? And if so, what excluded it? The deck definitely takes its time to unfold its potential....and even when it does, you immediately become the target of every opponent because of the mass of 10/10s. Therefore, I find FoS absolutely helpful here, as it only costs 2 mana, is easy to copy, and can give all our Eldrazi haste. So it makes our Eldrazi to instant threats. Doesn't that make it almost "indispensable"? Due to the price drop, I'm considering adding Urza's Binding + Labyrinth into the deck. Is it worth it? And if so, which cards should I take out for it? Does anyone have a tip for a little noob? Thx!
Would love to see your take on Arna Kennerüd, Skycaptain! I’m building her as a living weapon/for mirrodin board flood deck with a sub theme of voltron in mind. Really love this new commander and your brews so a combination of the two would be awesome!
Alchemist's Refuge and Progenitor's Icon are good ways to get flash enablers into the deck that can hide within the manabase until called upon. Void Grafter is another option for a flash Eldrazi with a desirable effect, since having your giant spaghetti monsters get smoked by Swords to Plowshares or Reality Shift is no fun. For an absolutely mean and unfun addition, Spreading Plague will decimate your opponents' boards if they try to add to them while leaving your completely unaffected. Ugin, the Spirit Dragon is my vote for a big money include because one sided exile based board wipes are pretty sweet.
Really excited for omo; hope your considering adding clara oswald from the doctor who set in the deck, she can work as a budget roaming throne of sorts since all creatures with a counter is a doctor card
That is a very good suggestion! At this point my build as a lot more passive& activated abilities rather than triggered ones (outside of Omo of course and a few landfall triggers) so it may not be the best include in my version of the deck, but I can see it as a 2nd, much cheaper, Roaming Throne for a build more focused around triggered effects.
@GrazzetMTG makes sense; the landfall package in the main deck was really disappointing honestly. And the creatures mostly lack luster. It won't be hard to make a much cooler version of the deck
Thanks for another awesome upgrade! Also enjoyed seeing your changed opinion about cutting all small eldrazi and just put mostly big hitting titans, from the reaction video! It's nice to see Eldrazi doing something a bit different than just smash face. Appreciate all your work, have a good one 🎉🎉
Hi! I pulled Rise of the Eldrazi from the promo pack in a commander masters precon! What would you take out for rise of the Eldrazi? If anything? Thank you for another great video ❤
I would recommend swapping it with Imprisoned in the Moon - which is still a decent piece of removal but not as Good as Rise of the Eldrazi. Its going to raise the builds curve sure, but we have the ramp to get there and its pretty backbreaking when it resolve. Hope that helps and glad to hear you enjoyed the build!
not too shabby of a upgrade for the eldrazi deck definitely was looking forward to this one (i will actually say this you did way better than what the command zone upgrades were) oh coarse by default i can go the over budget path because all the cards in that area i already have except for the 3.0 eldrazi titans even though not cut from the main budget part why do people keep cutting Eldrazi displacer? thats likea remarkable and is used despite of not working with cast triggers i've got a few other possible inclusion if people want to for other budget options: Forerunner of slaughter or Eldrazi Linebreaker Calamity of the Titans Barrage Tyrant all three Tron lands Void Grafter Catacomb Shifter Rescue effects (for repeatable budget options is Blood clock or Umbilicus) (it lets you do cast triggers again and also lets you copy those with ulalek again.) mana maze Sanctum of Ugin Kozilek's command Expensive zone Spreading Plague Darksteel Monolith Zhulodok, Void Gorger (and to note you can copy both cascade triggers with Ulalek, and you could chain reaction into more eldrazis copying the cascades again, and again....AND AGAIN!) Roaming throne (echoes of eternity is better but this is basically another double the triggers for inplay eldrazi) Ugin's Binding Urza's Workshop (Only if your running all the tron lands) oh for honorable mentions is Brood monitor and Spawn gang commander, (if you have Echoes of Eternity or Roaming throne out while Ulalek is in play you get infinite scions/spawns with either, plus eldrazi displacer works with brood monitor)
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Very good Grazzet! I really liked your line of choices here, like many of your other upgrades, it works very well. I'm excited for the Omo deck upgrade!!!!
Glad to hear you liked this build and that your hyped for the Omo deck, which I'm currently working on to try and take advantage of her creature type manipulation a bit more (which the precon appears to have mostly ignored)!
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@@GrazzetMTG that is great! I'll be waiting!
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@@GrazzetMTG I saw some domain cards, which seemed very interesting to me for this deck.
Echos of eternity allows for you to go infinite very quickly provided you're willing to sacrifice your tokens to tap ulalek, evil deck if you ramp fast enough ong
I pulled many of the Eldrazi from this deck in my prerelease packs and prizes, including the commander and 2 of 3 of the titans. Definitely going to build this for a reasonable price. Definitely not worth what it’s going for.
Was waiting for this precon, but made the mistake of not having money to preorder it and now it has the commander masters problem of being ~100$ or ~500$ if you want the collector edition. Still a good video though
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I did my own upgrades before this went out. I played 2 games... My friends got salty and said "why would you play this deck 5 times in a row?" Time to improve it and lose them as friends.
the current price on cardmarket of this deck is just beyond stupid. I bought it in. a local store for almost half its price. its ridiculous how nasty the price is online. font be fooled people!
Hekdifndh tbsifbem? Duwndoe!!! Mysterious reaction aside, amazing vid as always! Next up is... Everything Everywhere All At Once! Nneeaatt!! Day 1014 of waiting for the face reveal... ever played Flesh and Blood?
Glad you enjoyed it and your continued support (cryptic or otherwise) is always appreciated! I have not had the chance to play Flesh and Blood myself, but have looked into it briefly - it seems interesting but, from what I understand, it has a pretty severe "chase" issue with their sets (like serialized cards from MTG but somehow ever rarer). Then again, I could be working with outdated info, since it has been a few years.
Hey folks! Included in the post below is the complete list of upgrades made to the deck, as well as my additional upgrade suggestions for your convenience. Also, be sure to let me know in the comments in you agree / disagree with my upgrade suggestions, if there are any inclusions you thing I missed, and what commanders from Modern Horizons 3 you' like to see me build in the future!
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Eldrazi
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Mutated Cultist >>> Herald of Kozilek
Ulamog's Nullifier >>> It That Heralds the End
Inversion Behemoth >>> Sowing Mycospawn
Drowner of Hope >>> Conduit of Ruin
Skittering Invasion >>> Nulldrifter
Elder Deep-Fiend >>> Breaker of Creation
Titans' Vanguard >>> Pathrazer of Ulamog
Sifter of Skulls >>> Flayer of Loyalties
Bismuth Mindrender >>> Kozilek, the Great Distortion
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Core - Ramp
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Ruins of Oran-Rief >>> Path of Annihilation
Ugin's Insight >>> From Beyond
Kozilek's Return >>> Kozilek's Unsealing
Ancient Stirrings >>> Thran Dynamo
Vile Redeemer >>> Thought Vessel
Suffer the Past >>> Chromatic Lantern
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Core - Draw
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Temple of Silence >>> Up the Beanstalk
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Sidegrades
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Flayer of Loyalties, >>> Skittering Cicada
Azlask, the Swelling Scourge, >>> Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter
Eldrazi Displacer >>> Vedalken Orrery
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Additional Upgrades
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From Beyond >>> Echoes of Eternity
Azlask, the Swelling Scourge >>> It That Betrays
Morophon, the Boundless >>> Void Winnower
Pathrazer of Ulamog >>> Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Ulamog's Dreadsire >>> Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Angelic Aberration >>> Emrakul, the World Anew
Ash Barrens >>> Eye of Ugin
The only reason why I'm not getting this deck or build is because I already have two five color commander decks in dragons lead by the Ur-dragon itself and allies lead by general Tazri herself and I have a cololess Eldrazi deck and so also I feel buying this deck would defeat the purpose and uniqueness of having an actually colorless deck but that doesn't mean I didn't grab the new colorless Eldrazi to add to my current colorless Eldrazi and yes numerous people have recommended that I do buy this deck for improvements and each time I've said I already have what I want and am happy with what I have.
You totally forgot Ulamog, the defiler here LOL as he also obliterates our budgets and fits perfectly here as well as he obliterates half of our opponents libraries literally just upon being cast and gets +1/+1 counters on him equal to the highest CMC card in exile and then gets annilator X where X is the number of +1/+1 counters on him and did I forget to mention he has ward sacrifice two permanents and you get all of this on a pretty big 7/7 body for 10 CMC meaning not only can he be played here but absolutely anywhere. Ulamog, the defiler more like the obliterator as that is literally what he does with his mere presence and yes I do play him in my Eldrazi deck sue me for being stupid powerful
10:01 You are absolutely right about Bismuth Mindrender being overall worthless and useless in this deck but we all know the perfect commander for it hands down bar none: Felix, five boots as it does have a combat trigger for us to outright exploit and that Felix will definitely double up on and is yet another free theft effect for us to take advantage of. On a seperate but related note I find it ironic how many free theft effects exist in Dimir and how Gonti, canny aquisitor neither supports them or is supported by them as Felix doubles up most to all of them making Gonti by comparison come off as worthless or useless unfortunately not saying it's bad just Felix is so much better.
Awesome additions! Would love to see an azlask focused upgrade guide for going wide with tokens 🔥
We'll see if he can beat out Coram, the Undertaker on the polls (Azlask is currently in 2nd place) for the 1st build after the precon upgrades, but even if he isn't, we may see him again in future polls so stay tuned!
@@GrazzetMTG Sounds good! Coram is another one I'd like to see so win win for me
What would i replace for ulamog the defiler, i was opening playbooster with the boys and my buddy pulled him and blessed me with him along with all the eldrazi synergys
Great video again dude! Skittering cicada is an absolute gem... nothing like like a 3 mana creature becoming a 22/22 Trample after casting a Titan and Copying the affect. UNDERRATED!
Does that work - is the copy "cast"?
@@BraveSirPaul Skittering cicadas ability triggers on cast… ulalek copies the titan spell, and then copies all triggered abilities on the stack.
It gets +10 from Ulamog (for eg) when you cast it. Then you can pay the 2C because it is an Eldrazi spell and then copy all triggered abilities so Skittering cicada gets another +10 +10
@@BraveSirPaul The copy isn’t ‘cast’ but the On-cast ability is copied with Ulaleks ability.
So the originals Cast trigger happens an additional time.
Thanks for the clarification everyone - its these nuances that I have trouble with in the game
I pulled an Ugin's Binding and wanted to see what I should cut for it?
Thoughts on Null Elemental Blast for this deck.
Nulldrifter: I am pretty sure, that evoke is a copyable characteristic. So evoking Nulldrifter and copy the spell let you still sacrifice both.
it's the same reason why copies of kicked spells also count as kicked.
Upon further investigation you are indeed correct! It appears I was confusing myself with ETB copy effects rather than copy effects that occur on the stack - as ETB ones like Reflections of Littjara would bypass evoke but effects that copy on the stack like Ulalek would not.
Sorry for the flub there, though I would still say its a good include despite that if only for the flexibility of it letting us play it for 3, 5, 7, and 9 mana for draw intially or draw & evasive annihilator bodies later.
Youre right its a great include anyways. I will put it in my Ulalek deck aswell. Your upgrade ideas are very useful as always. Thank you :)
@@GrazzetMTG 706.10 To copy a spell, activated ability, or triggered ability means to put a copy of it onto the stack; a copy of a spell isn’t cast and a copy of an activated ability isn’t activated. A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs. (See rule 601, “Casting Spells.”) (...). if we follow the ruling, doesnt that mean it also checks if it was evoked and u dont get anything from it. Not the carddraw since it doesnt copy the cast trigger nor the nulldrifter itself if it was evoked?
Ulalek does NOT double the ETB triggers cause creatures enter the battlefield AFTER they have resolved and thus are no longer on the stack. Just sayin.
You are technically correct - though the end result ends up being the same - as any Eldrazi that we copy are going to end up entering the battlefield twice after Ulalek's ability resolves (Once when the original ETB's and once when the copy ETB's), resulting in us getting 2 ETB triggers anyway.
I can see so many crazy builds for this deck I'm going to upgrade it to the Moon and back
If it wasn’t for the price, and the set advertised as a MODERN SET, I’d actually get this commander precon. Cosmic horrors are cool!
They sure are, which is why the price has been hiked up so high....
@@GrazzetMTGI've said it before and I'll say it again the only drawback Eldrazi have is they're absurdly freaking expensive as otherwise there really nothing wrong with them as we don't bash the opposing players for having counter strategies for Eldrazi as they are that powerful as most Eldrazi especially in the higher rarities demand immediate answers and can be dealt with but must be dealt with immediately or there is a chance you'll lose the following turn and this is also directly why at play tables as powerful and awesome as Eldrazi are why most if not all of the other players will gang up on the Eldrazi player as a properly built deck can and will dominate all of the other players if given any amount of time for set up this is also why they're now infamously called the not so fun or hated tribe as well.
I love the upgrade guide for this deck. Since I went over and above to upgrade the last Eldrazi deck that came out, the titans will be bouncing between the two of them . Thanks again Grazzet!!!
First Ulalek upgrade that I do agree !! Really powerful and sinergic stuff
Once you see the elephant in Ulalek it kinda makes it less scary.
I’m pretty sure the nulldrifer with still go away, unless arena is wrong on arena the copy of nulldrifter is still evoked and both die, although still very good
Holy balls. I've got the Judge Promo of Eye of Ugin. The BASE print is $70+???!!!
Been very keen for your take on the upgrades for this. Thanks!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Loving the upgrades & breakdowns given! One thing just, Emrakul the World Anew isn't a good target for Ulalek's copying effect, since she makes you sacrifice all creatures you control when she leaves the battlefield, so copying her causes you to ultimately lose your board when you have to resolve the Legend rule
That's true.
Love theses builds, definitely staying posted for the Omo deck and see your direction on how you run it
Managed to get the collector version of the deck for 160! Great video!
flayer of loyalties just became flayer of wallets
love your upgrades. straight to the point and great options. thanks man
My pleasure and happy to hear that you enjoy them!
Fantastic video, i have added in all of these upgrades and they work great! I am also adding in a Strionic Resonator to double on triggers, what would you suggest i take out for this?
$180 at my LGS but a couple trade ins and I got it for free with a couple packs and I pulled a foiled Grist. Decent win. Going to give these additions a try 👍
First of all: even though I am a noob (I’ve only been playing MTG again for a few months), I think your Pre Con upgrades are really some of the best! Nonetheless, I have two questions that maybe you or your community can answer:
Did you consider "Forerunner of Slaughter"? And if so, what excluded it? The deck definitely takes its time to unfold its potential....and even when it does, you immediately become the target of every opponent because of the mass of 10/10s. Therefore, I find FoS absolutely helpful here, as it only costs 2 mana, is easy to copy, and can give all our Eldrazi haste. So it makes our Eldrazi to instant threats. Doesn't that make it almost "indispensable"?
Due to the price drop, I'm considering adding Urza's Binding + Labyrinth into the deck. Is it worth it? And if so, which cards should I take out for it? Does anyone have a tip for a little noob?
Thx!
Don’t think I need to upgrade the precon right now because it’s insane as is, but these all make sense
Would love to see your take on Arna Kennerüd, Skycaptain! I’m building her as a living weapon/for mirrodin board flood deck with a sub theme of voltron in mind. Really love this new commander and your brews so a combination of the two would be awesome!
I'll see what I can do about getting her on a future poll!
Alchemist's Refuge and Progenitor's Icon are good ways to get flash enablers into the deck that can hide within the manabase until called upon. Void Grafter is another option for a flash Eldrazi with a desirable effect, since having your giant spaghetti monsters get smoked by Swords to Plowshares or Reality Shift is no fun. For an absolutely mean and unfun addition, Spreading Plague will decimate your opponents' boards if they try to add to them while leaving your completely unaffected. Ugin, the Spirit Dragon is my vote for a big money include because one sided exile based board wipes are pretty sweet.
Hi graz love the suggestions. But very sure the evoked nulldrifter property will carry over to the copy and will be sacced as well
Really excited for omo; hope your considering adding clara oswald from the doctor who set in the deck, she can work as a budget roaming throne of sorts since all creatures with a counter is a doctor card
That is a very good suggestion! At this point my build as a lot more passive& activated abilities rather than triggered ones (outside of Omo of course and a few landfall triggers) so it may not be the best include in my version of the deck, but I can see it as a 2nd, much cheaper, Roaming Throne for a build more focused around triggered effects.
@GrazzetMTG makes sense; the landfall package in the main deck was really disappointing honestly. And the creatures mostly lack luster. It won't be hard to make a much cooler version of the deck
Thanks for another awesome upgrade! Also enjoyed seeing your changed opinion about cutting all small eldrazi and just put mostly big hitting titans, from the reaction video! It's nice to see Eldrazi doing something a bit different than just smash face. Appreciate all your work, have a good one 🎉🎉
Hi! I pulled Rise of the Eldrazi from the promo pack in a commander masters precon! What would you take out for rise of the Eldrazi? If anything?
Thank you for another great video ❤
I would recommend swapping it with Imprisoned in the Moon - which is still a decent piece of removal but not as Good as Rise of the Eldrazi. Its going to raise the builds curve sure, but we have the ramp to get there and its pretty backbreaking when it resolve.
Hope that helps and glad to hear you enjoyed the build!
Thank you so much! All the best to you !!
not too shabby of a upgrade for the eldrazi deck definitely was looking forward to this one (i will actually say this you did way better than what the command zone upgrades were)
oh coarse by default i can go the over budget path because all the cards in that area i already have except for the 3.0 eldrazi titans
even though not cut from the main budget part why do people keep cutting Eldrazi displacer? thats likea remarkable and is used despite of not working with cast triggers
i've got a few other possible inclusion if people want to
for other budget options:
Forerunner of slaughter or Eldrazi Linebreaker
Calamity of the Titans
Barrage Tyrant
all three Tron lands
Void Grafter
Catacomb Shifter
Rescue effects (for repeatable budget options is Blood clock or Umbilicus) (it lets you do cast triggers again and also lets you copy those with ulalek again.)
mana maze
Sanctum of Ugin
Kozilek's command
Expensive zone
Spreading Plague
Darksteel Monolith
Zhulodok, Void Gorger (and to note you can copy both cascade triggers with Ulalek, and you could chain reaction into more eldrazis copying the cascades again, and again....AND AGAIN!)
Roaming throne (echoes of eternity is better but this is basically another double the triggers for inplay eldrazi)
Ugin's Binding
Urza's Workshop (Only if your running all the tron lands)
oh for honorable mentions is Brood monitor and Spawn gang commander, (if you have Echoes of Eternity or Roaming throne out while Ulalek is in play you get infinite scions/spawns with either, plus eldrazi displacer works with brood monitor)
Very good Grazzet!
I really liked your line of choices here, like many of your other upgrades, it works very well.
I'm excited for the Omo deck upgrade!!!!
Glad to hear you liked this build and that your hyped for the Omo deck, which I'm currently working on to try and take advantage of her creature type manipulation a bit more (which the precon appears to have mostly ignored)!
@@GrazzetMTG that is great! I'll be waiting!
@@GrazzetMTG I saw some domain cards, which seemed very interesting to me for this deck.
Echos of eternity allows for you to go infinite very quickly provided you're willing to sacrifice your tokens to tap ulalek, evil deck if you ramp fast enough ong
But what about Zhulodok?
Would be pretty cool if you can make a deck with shilgengar, sire of famine.
I pulled many of the Eldrazi from this deck in my prerelease packs and prizes, including the commander and 2 of 3 of the titans. Definitely going to build this for a reasonable price. Definitely not worth what it’s going for.
I mean, if you got lucky on your pulls then go for it!
Great video! I feel i need an unlimited value upgrade video tho haha
Great upgrade could you put all the new Titans in ??
To think that I ordered the deck after the spoiler of Ulalek, spending only $100 and not knowing anything else. I REGRET NOTHING!!!!!!
Dude keep crushing the content - your voice makes this 🔥
Will do and thank you for the positive feedback!
Was waiting for this precon, but made the mistake of not having money to preorder it and now it has the commander masters problem of being ~100$ or ~500$ if you want the collector edition.
Still a good video though
I have beeeen waiting for this one🥹
Beeeeeen
Hooooooope it was worth the wait!
For Aslak... Slap all other Experience counters creatures inside the deck, you will thank me later xD
Good upgrades, the AI voice was almost unbearable, but glad I stayed for the info
Wooooo IT’S TIME!!! 🎉
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Guess I’ll just be eating chicken, spinach, and pasta this week. 😅
Must be nice... *looks at instant ramen and ketchup packets while holding the precon*
@@GrazzetMTG you meanie !! 😂😂
It's just an ancient horror from beyond the cosmos. How bad can it be?
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We live homies!!
I did my own upgrades before this went out. I played 2 games... My friends got salty and said "why would you play this deck 5 times in a row?"
Time to improve it and lose them as friends.
Spoken like a true Eldrazi Player!
the current price on cardmarket of this deck is just beyond stupid. I bought it in. a local store for almost half its price. its ridiculous how nasty the price is online. font be fooled people!
Hekdifndh tbsifbem? Duwndoe!!!
Mysterious reaction aside, amazing vid as always!
Next up is... Everything Everywhere All At Once! Nneeaatt!!
Day 1014 of waiting for the face reveal... ever played Flesh and Blood?
Glad you enjoyed it and your continued support (cryptic or otherwise) is always appreciated!
I have not had the chance to play Flesh and Blood myself, but have looked into it briefly - it seems interesting but, from what I understand, it has a pretty severe "chase" issue with their sets (like serialized cards from MTG but somehow ever rarer). Then again, I could be working with outdated info, since it has been a few years.
I agree not worth buying.