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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
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In our last video before we release into Early Access we examine what to expect out of the launch of BATC. We examine common issues, our decisions around LLMs and the launching feature set included with the program.
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Website: www.beyondatc.net
Intro: (0:00)
Data Source Decisions: (1:24)
Is BeyondATC AI?: (7:32)
Open Ended Questions Example: (15:15)
Exponential Possibility Problem: (17:35)
Features at Launch: (20:50)
Outro: (21:32)
And of COURSE we're watching this.. we are just as excited about BeyondATC as everyone else is. These are two very different solutions, very different price-points, and a very different list of pros and cons. We wish BeyondATC ALL the success in the world!!!
Nice to see developers supporting each other.
That is a lovely comment and I wish you every success with your product too.
🤝👏👍 I wish both products much success.
Saw the pfp and pulled out the camera for worldstar😆 as a SI user I'm happy for both one for reliability, and one for the variations that can come with AI to get a little closer to real world applications. As a soon to be student pilot im hoping to use these programs to get better familiarized with the terminology and not memorizing but able to know what I want and what atc wants and how to respond, and I think these applications couldn't have come at a better time for me personally, thank you both for your determination and passion!
ATC teams unite!! Thanks for stopping by yall!
"same to you buddy!" I lost it. This is so exciting!!!
Was not expecting the amount of sass it replied with. 😂
I was LMAO too at that moment. Priceless and surprising too because it is a kind of AI stuff. But I understand that is because the devs were expecting a call like that. I like it and it is for sure a call I will do too myself when I'll fly with BATC for the first time 🤣
@@laurentsamson8927 I tried BATC out on a flight yesterday after they released it, and the controllers definitely have some human-like responses if you don't follow protocol. It's great
Don't get your panties in a bind
I love how transparent the devs are in this project. It's brilliantly done and I can't wait for this to be fully done
Are you a fan boy
@@Zakk900 why wouldn’t I be? They’re great people and they have done a great job on this
@@DCDesigns34 Zakk still suffers from being called a fanboy all the time, that he now throws it whenever he can.
As a consumer and simmer, we want honesty from developers about their products. For me, you have done exactly that. I've not done Vatsim and it's a confidence thing. Beyond ATC will help me out massively in coming to grips with correct procedures and phraseology. So, with that said a huge well done for producing BeyondATC. And i really do look forward to using it on many of my flights...👍 over & out.
Every discord push from BeyondATC gives me instant shock XD
I see the ping in the group of servers, my heart speeds up, I see its on BeyondATC server, it gets faster, its in announcements, I begin to enter the early stages of a heart attack
The fact that you all have been so upfront with us consumers about every step of the process of making this program deserves HUGE kudos.
Kudos? What a dork
This is exactly how an update to the public should be done. Clear info on what is done, what is still in progress, what is to be expected of the product, etc. Not hiding behind a couple of pics that don't really tell us anything.... (you know who you are). I'm looking forward to using this. Thanks so much for all the work on it! Now I'm hungry for donuts again. :D
As a software engineer myself, I do understand 100% what you have to deal with here. You took the correct decision not trying to decipher bad data. If your product is popular, source data will get corrected over time, which will benefit everyone for a greater future for the sim and other plugins.
Nobody's getting paid to Bata test this pal.
Dude, I'm really impressed how you and the team listen to the users. The major example of this was the pricing model. You announced it, the users had A LOT to say about it and you pivoted accordingly. In this day and age that is impressive. I do find it sad that the MS ATC is so suckful that it requires an addon to fix, but you have done the job mightily.
Thank you for the upfront transparency and telling us clearly what we should and shouldn’t expect. It’s an admirable trait and shows the humbleness of you and your dev team. I’m really routing for your success. Great work!
I rolled at 17:12 😂😂
Dork
@@Zakk900 yeah and? Lol
Total respect for all the developers of this great tool and others for MSFS. As a team member of BlueBird Simulations building the 757, a programmer and developer in my own right too, I know the amount of work, effort, resilience and patience that it takes to build some of these addons. I have watched BeyondATC grow over the last year or so and have thoroughly enjoyed the development and openness in your business model. As a simmer that does not have the time to take part in VATSIM because of my other commitments, BeyondATC is going to be a first day purchase for me. I wish you guys all the best and echo the sentiments of positivity and keeping it fun. Cheers.
Its been a brilliant journey since the initial announcement! Well done and looking forward to more to come. Lets go!
cant wait even in early access. It's going to evolve thx to your devotion, commitment and the community will also help i'm deeply confident 😉
You guys are such a humble and respectful company. Than you for listening to us, it really feels awesome in a world full of dishonest companies. Keep up the good work ❤
Thanks Cap, hands down for your unreseverd commitment to deliver an exceptional product along with an excellent customer experience so far. It's crystal clear that the Flight Sim Community is highly excited to embark on this journey with you. Congrats to BATC Team, well done. Cheers from Melbourne Australia.
Thank you for being so upfront about what to expect. I’m excited for the release!
Outstanding. 3 flights and no issues except for my doing. Just came from discord. Holy Cow! You guys may have bitten off more than you can chew. Alot going on over there. Quite frankly, the basic voices sound great. Haven't even flown with premium yet. Great product guys.
Thank you for the monumental effort that has gone into this, I'm damn sure it was never easy but hopefully now while frustrating moments may still happen it is much more enjoyable for you to work on.
I will be an early access buyer as although some parts I want will not be present in early access like traffic control, I believe it's also important to show you and the team some support, and I am more than willing to put my money where my mouth is while you continue to develop it. Thank you again and all the very best with the release!
I bought BATC last night and can't wait to get into it! I am very excited about what you guys are doing and fully support all of your efforts. I see great potential in this software and I know you guys have amazing things coming. I first saw BATC in Houston last year at the Flight Sim Expo and was amazed at what it could do. I have been anxiously waiting for you guys to release this, as most flight simmers were, and now its here. Keep up the great work guys, you're doing a fantastic job!!
First off, Cap : Transparency is a HUGE factor to me, when it comes to how I feel about things / people. I'm just one out of MANY, who is extremely excited about getting my hands on this. 😃
Right now, I'm using SayIntentions, and honestly (and speaking of transparency), I love it!!! It's a GREAT product!! And to be clear : I'm NOT writing this, because Brian (I presume - but I could be wrong ofcourse) has commented on this video. 😂 And hey, it also has its bugs. That's part of the game, right? 😉
Maybe I'll prefer SayIntentions - and maybe I'll prefer BeyondATC. Some people prefer tea - and some people prefer coffee.
Point is, it's always great with competition. It keeps us, as humans, on our toes. And we, the end consumers, have a choice. 👍 But I actually don't get, why it always HAS to be about "losers vs. winners". 🙄 Again, huge respect from my end, for putting a lot of work and effort in each of your individual products. 🥰
Very exciting! Congratulations to the BeyondATC team!
Very much appreciate your honesty and expectation setting. This will allow us all to be professional about our discussion, feedback and bug reporting. Thanks and Really looking forward to the release.
Day one purchase. Love your work and looking forward to this like no other addon this year!
To solve the incomplete airport information, you should give us the ability to input information about the airport, like for example, if we know the airport is missing information, we can fill it in manually, export A/FDs or flight diagrams. If you're really need security, you can give us this ability, and then have beyondatc (your team) approve it. And if it gets approved you can make that information available for everyone!
Seeing how this is an offline service, I wouldn't think it would affect any players.
Any of the ATC products out there have issues with bad data, so it's going to happen. I have been using SI and so far, it has worked great except for one flight. The advantage of AI is that you can request a change or tell them they are wrong, and they will correct. I don't think this is possible with a scripted program like this, but again, it really doesn't happen that often.
MSFS World Hub should be coming soon, which will allow for community sourced updates to airports within the simulator. If enough people contribute, that might fix the issue entirely! 😄
Well the moment I saw that you guys have got ATC working for GA, you sold me. Appreciate it’s only IFR for now, but that’s more than I currently have so I’ll happily take that.
So so pleased that GA wasn’t left out like it has been so so many times before. Thankyou
One purchase incoming the moment you go live.
You guys are simply amazing. Thank you very much for that beautiful, AFFORDABLE, piece or art.
This video is so important to create an understanding of what challenges you are facing. I must say Im impressed how your "linear" model is able to handle requests, emergencies etc. That was my biggest concern. I think a video on the challenges to integrate AI traffic would be a good next video after a launch video.
Keep it up guys! You are amazing
Thank you for the thorough explanation. And fingers crossed for the release ! No hesitation here, to day one purchase
Hi, I just purchased it yesterday. From bottom of my heart Thank you lads. Incredible job. I flew in to JFK and got clearance for RW04L. I asked for RW04R and didn't work. I guess my phraseology was not correct. Or it's the same problem you were talking about in the end of this video. Anyway Thank you again. I was waiting for this since 2005 when I started with FS2002 haha😅. Only 19 years😂
J’attends la sortie de BeyondATC avec impatience. Merci pour avoir créer ce programme.
Happy release! Take my money, no questions!
Thank you for being so clear.
One of the best in your product is your transparency and explanation! Thank you, and please take my money soon :D
Immediate purchase soon as it's out, keep up the good work! I like your approach, seems like a proper "fit for purpose" application of AI, without going overkill with LLM models and such
What an awesome community flight simulation has become. And it is getting even better day by day!
I have been simming since the '80s that used floppy disks. I feel blessed to be able to experience this next-generation technology. I feel just as excited today as I did back then.
Exactly and Amen!
Thank you guys! I agree - Exciting times!!
Beyond ATC? More like beyond amazing! Can't wait! ☺️
looks fab - love the transparency here.
Really looking forward to release!!!
The amount of effort put into the product, managing expectations and corrections when receiving feedback from the community is insane. I'll be stoked for you guys if you keep your promises!
Ohh man I would love to use BeyondATC. You do such an amazing job! This is perfect to learn even before Vatsim.
Thanks for the info, looking forward to getting my hands on it.
I bought today the early access version. Yes, I had some bugs, but after seeing your video here, I understand why. Thank you very much for this work and I am looking forward to the next updates. This program really helps to learn the ATC in a special way. I am excited to see how it will work with Traffic AI. The premium sounds are amazing (just be surprised how fast the points going down by using the premium voices :)). You maked an amazing job guys 👍👍
First day purchase for me, can't wait for launch date.
You guys are awesome! Im buying on day 1 !
Thank you! This was a great presentation, and I appreciate your forthrightness. This is the beginning of a good relationship! 🙃😉
HAHAHA! " I hate you - same to you buddy" :D
I will buy asap and Squak 7600 if I have to from time to time.
Thanks so much for your transparacy. Very much apriciated. Can´t wait to get my hands om this.
I am really looking forward to this... I always avoid early access programs but with this, I'm excited to be along for the journey👍
will definitely be buying when its released , will be really good to have proper ATC instructions and be properly vectored into the Airport
top notch. some big studios could learn a thing or two form you guys.
I really enjoyed the voice recognition, it seems to work really good
Nice! Extra kudos for the Monty Python reference. 👍
Great information and great video. Can't wait to use it in my flights. SInce I do some career add-ons that take me to grass runways and such I expect I'll hit a lot more of those airports without data than many, but you'd not have ATC there anyway. As a tech guys myself I love kicking the tires so will love to see what happens and it when I do get to a good spot in my flight can I get partial ATC etc. To me the issues were obvious, but again it's because like other IT geeks that commented below, I understand the complexity more than someone without that background, but I think you are saving yourself a lot of headaches try to apologize for the unsolveable. I'd don't like a lot of videos on YT, but this one certainly deserved a big thumbs up.
So excited for the launch, it's an amazing time to be a flight simmer!
This sounds like it will be fun and Helpful.
This is oucking awesome!
Well done. You're coming at the "Early Access" as God intended, upfront and clear about what your product isn't (as opposed to blowing the balloon). Transparency to the community / userbase is massively underestimated these days - and that kills massive amount of ambitious and fantastic projects. Just keep it up beyond that initial release.
Just used it for the first time and love it !
ill like your comment
I love the fact that it send the I hate u “back at ya buddy” thats freakin awesome can’t wait to have it
Looking forward to it!
Great guys what you can achieve, thanks in advance...
This is so exciting!
This is just amazing, I am so looking forward to this. All of this AND Monty Python references, I love it!
Just awesome as a student pilot really looking forward to VFR implimemtation it will be a massive help in real life.
I will definitely be keeping an eye on this. I am a student pilot and have been out of the game a while, so I am trying to get my VFR callouts back up to snuff before gping back. Looking forward to that eventually! Good stuff.
Can't wait for this!
very nice as someone who uses fs hud atc I really like your data handle way i cant say how many times the atc tell you a STAR and doesn't show on the plane fmc because of different data. i cant wait to see ai traffic update in the future
Why not to have a choice for Navigraph users and defautl data?
i think if you have navigraph and installed the latest data to the sim, beyond atc will take this as "default msfs" data. otherwiese it would be a 100% no go
@@42LGKI really hope its like that
That's exactly what it is. Whatever you have personally as your data, that's what beyond ATC will use. So if you have an old airac it uses that. Up to date? It uses that.
It looks and sounds like it is worth the wait. My headset is standing by! I am strictly VFR so I will wait for the full release.
Awesome !
Looking forward to it:)
So ready to buy and try!
Appreciate the info. I would like to see a Navigraph option though, I wouldn't want to be held back by default sim data.
It would be cool if when you mouth off to ATC, it gives you a number to call
Oooohhh... Loving how noise changes from a freq to another... hoping to try it soon.
Just brilliant
Honesty and positivity are tremendous attributes that BeyondATC clearly displays. On top of that we have great community support from a competitor SayIntentionsAI. The two developers are fine examples to the industry. It sounds like a release is very close so my excitment is active.
You had me at "same to you, buddy!" 🤣🤣🤣
For me, BeyondATC is more than welcome, and I'm looking forward to using the early access. For those who say this product is nonsense and that VATSIM is the real thing, think again. There are people with disabilities or simply other reasons who prefer this. For myself, as an example, I can tell you that if you, like me, have become partially deaf and have to try to listen to fast speech (and some ATC controllers still make it a sport to speak as fast as possible), it becomes difficult and you quickly feel irritated, especially if you have to ask for a "say again" more than once. So for me, Beyond ATC is really a very welcome solution. A blessing, Thank You.
A lot of developers could learn from this type of videos.
Understood. Can't wait.
I havent been sim flying much in the last year, but I am going to buy this just to support the effort. Hopefully, I will get around to actually using it.
Thanks for sharing this video. I really look forward to BATC but I will wait until it is complete. Without the traffic handling it is no option for me. I will stay with FSHud for the moment which received a big update recently and has really nice traffic handling.
Amazing !!! just bought it yesterday, and it changes all… I Hope traffic injection will come soon… You did a really good job !!! ❤
Impressed by your transparent and open communication. Will BATC support VR with an in game window/panel?
Both SI and BATC seem amazing so this will really be about cost for me. SI, at this time, is a bit too expensive for me but BATC will give me everything I need and at a more manageable price. Thanks for the letting us know what to expect. I can't wait for the early access!
It's a instant buy for me. Has to be better then what I am currently using at a affordable price.
Sounds great. Looking forward to the traffic injection piece. I'm getting tired of seeing the A320s flying through me on final approaches and the constant "Cessna ASXGS go around."
really looking forward to this, Silly question though, whats Oceanic procedure?
Great video, answers a lot of questions. My only real concern is it not working at "certain" airports.
Would be nice if there was a more useful fallback (rather than it refusing to work at all). Appreciate that it would take you away from a RW ATC script (temprarily).
'Same to you buddy' 🤣🤣🤣
Mike over at Overkill Simulations mentioned something funny happened @ 17:12. 😉
I usually fly pretty simple routes with PMDG 737 from major airports to major airports.Just a casual pilot here. Not really looking for extreme detail or precise info,, just an alternative to the default ATC, so I'm really itching to get my hands on this!
Definitely not a day one purchase! (Want to see what everyone’s overall experience is first). That being said… love the enthusiasm!
I am SO happy you’ve stayed away from LLMs. An LLM based solution will have so many cool moments that you could edit into an amazing video. But it will also have a large series of catastrophic failure scenarios.
Very good decision with kick out scenery without complet data.
I need this in my hands so badly😍
Excellent background info on Beyond ATC. When can I sign up?!!
Just a thought for future development. Not trying to Monday morning quarterback. But just like you get the standard voices for the one time price but can pay as you go for premium voices, what if you also have a pay as you go option for open ended questions and "deviations from the rails"?
In my mind, thats the best of both worlds. Fixed price for "the rails", but also the added capabilities for those willing to pay for it for the one in a blue moon theyre looking to do something out of the norm.
Keep doing what you guys are doing! Thanks for all the hard work!
JVO626, Standing by!
I just can’t wait…… looking forward to the big day with my 30 bucks ready!