Ex 20yr ATC training & commercial pilots licence holder (retired). Some technical runway incursions as aircraft crossed the holding points before clearance was given and probably vacated a couple of times before the clearance was even read back. *Sometimes a controller will talk slow if they are stalling for time but want to get a clearance/instruction out. Some 'line up behind' would be useful. Needs ICAO 'caution vortex wake' for those departures (for UK timings for departures and distances (speed control for distances) for arrivals). But guess what... SUPER AMAZING WORK!!! REALLY IMPRESSIVE!
Thanks for the feedback. As stated at the opener - we know allllll the problems. We just wanted to share our progress. Think of it as watching a painter finish their painting - they know the sky hasn't been painted yet. They just haven't had a chance to paint it :)
Former Flight Service Specialist from Canada and Private and Glider License holder here. I was going to state the same about the aircraft moving before the clearance. Small detail but brings a lot to immersion. And good to know the @beyondatc team knows about the issue.
Doubt we’ll see it this year. Maybe toward the ass end of 2024 when MSFS 2024 comes out. Giving what im seeing in their discord server it’s a long process.
@@mr.futurestrader2115well they did have to completely restart from scratch. So that’s a misleading timeline, but I’d say they’re going to get it done this year
It looks really good!! I really want to practice my Radio work without having to use Vatsim as they do not cover the airfields I fly in and out of!! So it would be really nice once this does. Do you know if this will cover all airfields? For example, I remember an airfield in the UK called Dunkeswell, although it has a Radio IRL it doesn't have it in MSFS, it's just Exeter instead, so it's inaccurate. Thanks. @mr.futurestrader2115
Wow Captain, this is going to be absolutely amazing when it's all done, hell it already is now! Can't wait to see arriving and departing traffic working at the same time, that's when the backups really start to happen. Seems like arrival traffic spacing/sequencing will be the next great challenge especially during the push times at major hubs. Keep up the great work, we all appreciate it very much. This will be a game changer like no other.
Yes, it looks very promising. Can't wait to hear all the traffic of inbound flights being told to contact ground and all aircraft reaching the hold point to contact tower for departure.
Watching this gave me goosebumps. You guys are killing it! This might end up interfering with my flying… I’ll be too busy just plane spotting and admiring your work. Keep it up!!!👍🏼
Great work! Keep it up. I noticed there is no "Super" designation for the A380 or "Heavy" on some of the call signs. I'm sure you guys will get to it :-)
Truly admirable! My only critic will be to at least give the option to slow down the whole process. I feel like sometimes they’re too fast. I mean for example the time to do the flight controls checks etc.
Agree, hoping there is an option to slow down the push and start sequence. There has never been an AI addon that does this process in a realistic way that simulates something close to the time it takes planes to complete these procedures.
@@athr_blu Yeah, this is amazing work and I think it would be a mistake to get bogged down, with quickly diminishing returns in getting every detail correct, especially at this stage. (Though I’d note this is exactly the job a traffic injector is supposed to do; just a very low priority one.)
Well, speedbird and all.other traffic really did not pushback to the taxiway like they should have. They all.pushback to the first line, which would run them right into the tails of all other parked aircraft. I am sure they will get that worked out.
@@athr_blu yet they have "per engine start up sequence" which is a much lower priority detail to planes not colliding... your comment makes no sense at all.
Amazing. I think something that could be added is the "heavy" and "super" categories. Also, if tower could give wake turbulance warnings/ spacing thatd be even better
I'm trying to imagine, when each milestone in the development is reached, all of your team crowding round a monitor and watching. If it is amazing for us to see, you must love it!
I can't help but wonder, how high the bar will be, when the product is finished! 😳 What you show in this video, is already way way WAAAAAY beyond 'next level'! 👍👍👍👍 Thanks, for keeping us (the ones who are (im)patiently waiting ☺ ) informed on such a VERY regular basis. 🥰🥰🥰
I dont fly enough anymore to use BeyondATC but im going to buy it just to have it the few times i do fly and to support the awesome work you guys have put into this. It definitely feels like youre all trying to get this right and not just sell a product. Really excited for this one
NICELY DONE!!! I can't wait for the AI's!!! Sure gonna miss the MP lol. They don't waste anytime! BATC got to get the planes on the move! ATC be like, let's go, let's go! We ain't got all day!
Admirable work! It still needs a bit of fine tuning but you said that already, and anyway this video shows that you are at a very, VERY good point already. It almost seems to listen to a real ATC chatter 🙂
That is, just, wow. Love it! only one thing I got to say is some planes started moving before the calls but other then that the voices are so awsome and it sounds great! Cant wait to have that.
Yeah this is a known issue - the comm logic and the comm voices are two different systems. We just have to make one wait for the other, it's easy to do, just something I hadn't finished with yet. Thanks for the feedback!
This is ground breaking!!!! Truly another great mile stone in flight simulation!!! I can't comprehend what it must take to get to this point in development!!! Will I have to invest in a new computer for this?????? I only hope that you will be able get rid of the "dreaded go around" syndrome!!! Please say you will give us GA traffic!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you can do all of this you will deserve any amount of money you ask for!!!! Lol you will make $$MILLIONS$$!!!! Please sim genie take all my 401k!!!!!!!❤👍👍👍❤
Just stunning, compared to previous ATC attempts this is literally game changing. It’s coming on better than I could possibly hope for. Still waiting for GA comms mind you. 😉😉😉. That for me would be the ultimate. Can’t wait to install this
Wow! Guys you are doing an amazing job developing what is going to be the best ATC addon to MSFS ever, it will knock all the others out of the park! Roll on release day.
You are to be commended for taking on what appears to me to be an impossible task, given the vagaries of Asobo updates, the myriad possibilities or pilot and ATC errors, the rapid changes occurring in tech and AI ... not to mention the carnivorous nature of some simmers who will be on you like wolves on an injured elk if some simple error creeps in. Good luck to you all.
This is what every sim pilot has been waiting for, myself included! We all know this isn't the completely polished version. And the fact that it isn't and it's THIS good....I cant wait to see the released product!!! The only critique I have is that some of the voices sound.....aggresive? I don't know if that's the way to explain it. I know from experience at work that ATCs, and most pilots, generally sound a bit more calm than what I'm hearing from the sim. There's a lot of instruction that comes off as your Dad telling you to do something for the 3rd time. I don't know if I'm the only one hearing this or not. Honestly though, it's a nitpicky critique because everything else is just so mindblowing!! Excellent work guys!
Love the addon! One small suggestion for takeoffs: Tower should tell the departing aircraft to "Contact Departure" after they are clear of the airport.
Absolutely amazing. Thanks to the FSR3 frame generation mod for nVidia cards I'm finally able to use AI with great performance, but the AI communication and handling of the aircraft is really showing it's ugly parts with one female voice for all parties during a two hour flight without any variety and passenger planes flying on treetop level ... but this will change everything, amazing! And the performance will be even better too?! Love the natural hesitations and "uhms" and "ahs" and the regional accents. Makes it feel real to the max!
Cool stuff, only I seen some things that are not realistic. 1. The aircraft are not allowed to move through any hold short lines until cleared and read back. Even when ATC clears you, until you fully read back, you can't cross it. So basically if ATC starts to clear you through and your nose gear crossed that hold short line without you reading back until the last word - it's an excursion. 2 Also in US, when they clear you for takeoff, they don't say anything like "RNAV to..." That is already ack-ed in the IFR clearance. They only say wind and cleared for takeoff, or if its vectored departure they add heading to that.. 3. When aircraft are calling for taxi they don't say anything like " request taxi to runway 28L", it's up to ATC what runway they will give. Initial ground call would be something like: San Francisco ground, Southwest 456 at ....(where) with A (weather info), ready taxi for departure. 3. At big airports like that Ground doesn't handle pushbacks. Ground only handles moving areas, pushback and ramp are handled by Ramp Control and or Metering frequencies.
Looking great so far. A few niggles I noticed (you may be working on these of course): 1) United 737 started very far back from the stand and the A380 went through it. 2) Sometimes the planes started doing things (like crossing a runway or taking off) a little bit before they had clearance. 3) The movement of the planes is a bit "toy like" at the moment. Hopefully you can smooth it out and make them seem a bit more "heavy". 4) It would be nice to see some do rolling take-offs and not always stop on the runway. 5) Obviously it would be nice to see arrivals, but I'm sure that's coming next.
Great stuff! It would be another great immersion to implement the proper wake turbulence spacings. Perfect for allowing AI to cross some arrivals after a Heavy or Super departs.
Congratulations and good luck for the rest of the development. I hope it is development limitations and/or bugs but I noticed some abnormalities I would like to highlight here. First, there are no separations between aircrafts at departure which is very unrealistic to see a Medium taking off 30 seconds behind a Super. Second, I saw many times AI aircrafts starting to roll before the ATC instructions were given (they started to roll at the begining of the message without waiting for the instruction to be fully given).
The question everybody wants the answer to: have you approached Kennedy Steve to license his voice yet?! 😁 Tower to 2nd United: you started your t/o roll too early, I have a number for you to call! 2nd United to Tower: and you didn't call out wake turbulence, you trying to get us killed? 😆
Amazing progress! I know this is a nitpick and there are more important things to work on, but at SFO (and other airports as well) you don't get the cleareance for push at on ground frequency (depending on parking spot.) Instead you get it on a Ramp frequency. In the case of terminal 1, it's 127.575. You contact ground at the predetermined reporting spot (e.g. San Francisco Ground, Speedbird XXX, Spot 1, ready to taxi). Obviously this is going to be too hard to implement at all airpots, but perhaps some sort of crowd sourced way to chhange the airport layouts/frequencies would eventually make it accurate for the world would be nice.
Wow, this is impressive - still, the voices need a lot of tuning in terms of effects, intonation, and speed. Amazing though, hopes are up that this will be another game changer.
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Truly admirable effort, and some good humor along the way too. Kudos guys, really looking forward to it.
Ex 20yr ATC training & commercial pilots licence holder (retired).
Some technical runway incursions as aircraft crossed the holding points before clearance was given and probably vacated a couple of times before the clearance was even read back.
*Sometimes a controller will talk slow if they are stalling for time but want to get a clearance/instruction out.
Some 'line up behind' would be useful.
Needs ICAO 'caution vortex wake' for those departures (for UK timings for departures and distances (speed control for distances) for arrivals).
But guess what... SUPER AMAZING WORK!!!
REALLY IMPRESSIVE!
Thanks for the feedback. As stated at the opener - we know allllll the problems. We just wanted to share our progress. Think of it as watching a painter finish their painting - they know the sky hasn't been painted yet. They just haven't had a chance to paint it :)
Former Flight Service Specialist from Canada and Private and Glider License holder here. I was going to state the same about the aircraft moving before the clearance. Small detail but brings a lot to immersion. And good to know the @beyondatc team knows about the issue.
I've never been this excited about an AI ATC addon for any simulator. lol. I hope it's coming soon!!!!
Doubt we’ll see it this year. Maybe toward the ass end of 2024 when MSFS 2024 comes out. Giving what im seeing in their discord server it’s a long process.
@@mr.futurestrader2115well they did have to completely restart from scratch. So that’s a misleading timeline, but I’d say they’re going to get it done this year
I guess it will we released on Q4 this year
It looks really good!! I really want to practice my Radio work without having to use Vatsim as they do not cover the airfields I fly in and out of!! So it would be really nice once this does. Do you know if this will cover all airfields? For example, I remember an airfield in the UK called Dunkeswell, although it has a Radio IRL it doesn't have it in MSFS, it's just Exeter instead, so it's inaccurate. Thanks. @mr.futurestrader2115
Good Job Guys, BeyondATC is coming very well. 99,99% of Flight Simmers will be buying this :)
I can't put into words how awesome this is. Great work guys!!
Looking forward to your planes as well to go with this! 2024 is going to be awesome year for flight simming!
they r taking too long to drop the game not good for business
Lovely, haven’t been this excited about a add on in so long.
Wow Captain, this is going to be absolutely amazing when it's all done, hell it already is now! Can't wait to see arriving and departing traffic working at the same time, that's when the backups really start to happen. Seems like arrival traffic spacing/sequencing will be the next great challenge especially during the push times at major hubs. Keep up the great work, we all appreciate it very much. This will be a game changer like no other.
Yes, it looks very promising. Can't wait to hear all the traffic of inbound flights being told to contact ground and all aircraft reaching the hold point to contact tower for departure.
To be honest this is 100% the best atc I’ve ever seen in a sim! Continue this awesome work! Can’t wait to get it! ❤
Watching this gave me goosebumps. You guys are killing it! This might end up interfering with my flying… I’ll be too busy just plane spotting and admiring your work. Keep it up!!!👍🏼
Great work! Keep it up. I noticed there is no "Super" designation for the A380 or "Heavy" on some of the call signs. I'm sure you guys will get to it :-)
Truly admirable! My only critic will be to at least give the option to slow down the whole process. I feel like sometimes they’re too fast. I mean for example the time to do the flight controls checks etc.
Agree, hoping there is an option to slow down the push and start sequence. There has never been an AI addon that does this process in a realistic way that simulates something close to the time it takes planes to complete these procedures.
These videos just get more and more impressive. TAKE MY MONEY! lol
"Speedbird 2X, I think our wing just hit United 589" Nice editing to avoid that distraction though! :)
It's a traffic injector, no need to go into every minute details I guess. The player will busy preparing for their own flight to notice these things
@@athr_blu Yeah, this is amazing work and I think it would be a mistake to get bogged down, with quickly diminishing returns in getting every detail correct, especially at this stage. (Though I’d note this is exactly the job a traffic injector is supposed to do; just a very low priority one.)
Well, speedbird and all.other traffic really did not pushback to the taxiway like they should have. They all.pushback to the first line, which would run them right into the tails of all other parked aircraft. I am sure they will get that worked out.
@@athr_blu yet they have "per engine start up sequence" which is a much lower priority detail to planes not colliding... your comment makes no sense at all.
Off topic... I don't think anyone's mentioned it, but Captain has a prime voice for narration. It's so soothing.
Totally agree - have thought that myself. Nice voice tone and modulation, a real natural.
Excited and first time on this channel. I read "new video out" ... NO WAY ... Gone
Amazing. I think something that could be added is the "heavy" and "super" categories. Also, if tower could give wake turbulance warnings/ spacing thatd be even better
Work in progress my friend, he said that in the video
I'm trying to imagine, when each milestone in the development is reached, all of your team crowding round a monitor and watching. If it is amazing for us to see, you must love it!
I can't help but wonder, how high the bar will be, when the product is finished! 😳 What you show in this video, is already way way WAAAAAY beyond 'next level'! 👍👍👍👍
Thanks, for keeping us (the ones who are (im)patiently waiting ☺ ) informed on such a VERY regular basis. 🥰🥰🥰
I dont fly enough anymore to use BeyondATC but im going to buy it just to have it the few times i do fly and to support the awesome work you guys have put into this. It definitely feels like youre all trying to get this right and not just sell a product. Really excited for this one
I really am in awe. I can only imagine the complexity of putting this together. Great job, guys!
NICELY DONE!!! I can't wait for the AI's!!! Sure gonna miss the MP lol. They don't waste anytime! BATC got to get the planes on the move! ATC be like, let's go, let's go! We ain't got all day!
Simply amazing! I like it that you frequently share some nice progession videos!
Awesome job so far guys!! this thing is gonna be a game changer for those more realistic flights!
Love the associated accents for the airlines: ie: BA with British accent. Great attention to detail!
Admirable work! It still needs a bit of fine tuning but you said that already, and anyway this video shows that you are at a very, VERY good point already. It almost seems to listen to a real ATC chatter 🙂
I am SO hyped for this, you guys have NO IDEA!
This. Is. NEXT. LEVEL!!! So excited for this :)
Awesome work team! Absolutely can't wait :)
Fantastic work! Looking forward to supporting the project.
This is game changing stuff! Just take my money now if it helps with the development costs of all this. Thank you for bringing this to the sim world
Bravo! This is turning out to be something truly incredible. You and your team's effort clearly shows. Thanks for the sneak peak!
Really looking forward to its release. good job guys.
Can't wait to purchase, just waiting for the plane injection and vfr. Looks so promising excited to practice with the atc.
This looks insanely promising. You can just go ahead and take my money now.
You have no idea how excited I am to get my hands on this!!! NEXT LEVEL to flight sim
Looking phenomenal...can't wait!
I can't wait, I just can't!! This is an amazing piece of work.
That is, just, wow. Love it! only one thing I got to say is some planes started moving before the calls but other then that the voices are so awsome and it sounds great! Cant wait to have that.
Yeah this is a known issue - the comm logic and the comm voices are two different systems. We just have to make one wait for the other, it's easy to do, just something I hadn't finished with yet. Thanks for the feedback!
This is ground breaking!!!! Truly another great mile stone in flight simulation!!! I can't comprehend what it must take to get to this point in development!!! Will I have to invest in a new computer for this?????? I only hope that you will be able get rid of the "dreaded go around" syndrome!!! Please say you will give us GA traffic!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you can do all of this you will deserve any amount of money you ask for!!!! Lol you will make $$MILLIONS$$!!!! Please sim genie take all my 401k!!!!!!!❤👍👍👍❤
I can’t wait! Just “beyond” belief!
This is truly amazing. Great work.
What an accomplishment !!! Really looking forward to the finished masterpiece.
Just stunning, compared to previous ATC attempts this is literally game changing. It’s coming on better than I could possibly hope for.
Still waiting for GA comms mind you. 😉😉😉. That for me would be the ultimate.
Can’t wait to install this
Wow! Guys you are doing an amazing job developing what is going to be the best ATC addon to MSFS ever, it will knock all the others out of the park! Roll on release day.
Amazing work guys! I hope this project can will be possible soon.
Amazing stuff! Good luck on the further development.
This is going to make you a lot of money. This is what we want.
This is my most anticipated future release. The demo looks amazing. Can hardly wait.
Looking forward to this, well done BeyondATC
You are to be commended for taking on what appears to me to be an impossible task, given the vagaries of Asobo updates, the myriad possibilities or pilot and ATC errors, the rapid changes occurring in tech and AI ... not to mention the carnivorous nature of some simmers who will be on you like wolves on an injured elk if some simple error creeps in. Good luck to you all.
This is what every sim pilot has been waiting for, myself included! We all know this isn't the completely polished version. And the fact that it isn't and it's THIS good....I cant wait to see the released product!!! The only critique I have is that some of the voices sound.....aggresive? I don't know if that's the way to explain it. I know from experience at work that ATCs, and most pilots, generally sound a bit more calm than what I'm hearing from the sim. There's a lot of instruction that comes off as your Dad telling you to do something for the 3rd time. I don't know if I'm the only one hearing this or not. Honestly though, it's a nitpicky critique because everything else is just so mindblowing!! Excellent work guys!
Very nice - really looking forward to this!
💯💯💯 Great work, waiting patiently!!
this is going in the right direction so far, in my opinion :)
You guys have nailed it. Keep up the great work, you're almost there!
THIS is very cool - looking forward to seeing more!!!! JT
Amazing, can't wait to fly with beyond atc
i'm just blown away every time you release a new video.. amazing work!!
Love the addon! One small suggestion for takeoffs: Tower should tell the departing aircraft to "Contact Departure" after they are clear of the airport.
Not always, depends on the location. Many airports have procedures that you switch to it without instruction.
They do. if you watch the older previews. This is more to showcase the traffic injection.
Great effort folks. Looking forward to the finished product.
Absolutely amazing. Thanks to the FSR3 frame generation mod for nVidia cards I'm finally able to use AI with great performance, but the AI communication and handling of the aircraft is really showing it's ugly parts with one female voice for all parties during a two hour flight without any variety and passenger planes flying on treetop level ... but this will change everything, amazing! And the performance will be even better too?! Love the natural hesitations and "uhms" and "ahs" and the regional accents. Makes it feel real to the max!
wow! this looks like it's almost completed?? Keep up the great work!!
Hope so, can't wait anymore
I think i can say without no doubts, this addon is the next game (sim) changer ! 🔥🔥🔥
Cool stuff, only I seen some things that are not realistic.
1. The aircraft are not allowed to move through any hold short lines until cleared and read back. Even when ATC clears you, until you fully read back, you can't cross it. So basically if ATC starts to clear you through and your nose gear crossed that hold short line without you reading back until the last word - it's an excursion.
2 Also in US, when they clear you for takeoff, they don't say anything like "RNAV to..." That is already ack-ed in the IFR clearance. They only say wind and cleared for takeoff, or if its vectored departure they add heading to that..
3. When aircraft are calling for taxi they don't say anything like " request taxi to runway 28L", it's up to ATC what runway they will give. Initial ground call would be something like: San Francisco ground, Southwest 456 at ....(where) with A (weather info), ready taxi for departure.
3. At big airports like that Ground doesn't handle pushbacks. Ground only handles moving areas, pushback and ramp are handled by Ramp Control and or Metering frequencies.
Nice improvement on the voices. The background chatter really adds immersion and they just sound a bit more natural overall.
Looks amazing. Bravo
Outstanding work! Can't wait to support your project!
09:00 Holy cow. Its Trudeau (Fred Thompson) from Die Hard 2.
Amazing work really looking forward to it!
Looking great so far. A few niggles I noticed (you may be working on these of course): 1) United 737 started very far back from the stand and the A380 went through it. 2) Sometimes the planes started doing things (like crossing a runway or taking off) a little bit before they had clearance. 3) The movement of the planes is a bit "toy like" at the moment. Hopefully you can smooth it out and make them seem a bit more "heavy". 4) It would be nice to see some do rolling take-offs and not always stop on the runway. 5) Obviously it would be nice to see arrivals, but I'm sure that's coming next.
Dude, it seems you skipped the intro.
This already looks so absurdly good! Can't wait for the release!
Really excellent work to all
It feels like you have the same dream as the rest of us and that is a refreshing thing. Thank you.
This is amazing, great work!
Great stuff! It would be another great immersion to implement the proper wake turbulence spacings. Perfect for allowing AI to cross some arrivals after a Heavy or Super departs.
this looks like its going to be an absolute game changer.
Congratulations and good luck for the rest of the development. I hope it is development limitations and/or bugs but I noticed some abnormalities I would like to highlight here. First, there are no separations between aircrafts at departure which is very unrealistic to see a Medium taking off 30 seconds behind a Super. Second, I saw many times AI aircrafts starting to roll before the ATC instructions were given (they started to roll at the begining of the message without waiting for the instruction to be fully given).
You should see the ksfo traffic in sim right now. Crazy as hell. 😂
Very realistic : you can tell tower is ending their shift soon
The question everybody wants the answer to: have you approached Kennedy Steve to license his voice yet?! 😁
Tower to 2nd United: you started your t/o roll too early, I have a number for you to call!
2nd United to Tower: and you didn't call out wake turbulence, you trying to get us killed? 😆
Kennedy Steve would be hilarious!
Some really great progress here!
Amazing progress! I know this is a nitpick and there are more important things to work on, but at SFO (and other airports as well) you don't get the cleareance for push at on ground frequency (depending on parking spot.)
Instead you get it on a Ramp frequency. In the case of terminal 1, it's 127.575. You contact ground at the predetermined reporting spot (e.g. San Francisco Ground, Speedbird XXX, Spot 1, ready to taxi).
Obviously this is going to be too hard to implement at all airpots, but perhaps some sort of crowd sourced way to chhange the airport layouts/frequencies would eventually make it accurate for the world would be nice.
Check Jeppesen Chart 10-9B for the ramp frequencies and parking spot numbers for KSFO
The developers has alluded exactly to crowd sourced information as a way of improving the local information and exceptions.
Awesome, can‘t wait !!!!!
Looks amazing.
The way my face lit up watching this. So cool!
wow , what a game changer!!
Awesome. Long for the release of this. :)
I could never imagine one day we would fly in that level of realism
Great video...looking forward to release. Would have been good to see a few landings!
Great progress - thanks. Loving those regional accents.
Lets go!
Nice work Captain.
Already the best computer voices I have ever heard
Wow, this is impressive - still, the voices need a lot of tuning in terms of effects, intonation, and speed. Amazing though, hopes are up that this will be another game changer.
I swear that United 2667 Pilot is just JFK.. sounds just like him lol. Awesome job!
Game changer for sure hope this will arrive sooner than later.
Amazing job, can't wait to come out
i really cant wait for this. im going to freeze myself until beyond atc has traffic injection.
really, really impressive
Very nice, loving the progress! Are you planning to have the jetways connected like FSLTL does with their injector?
Maaan, this is going to be 🔥🔥🔥keep up the great work!
Amazing