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- Raven in my opinion is one of the greatest, lesser utilized characters in the DC universe. She is a character that deserves to be more than the Teen Titan we always see her to be and that seems to have been the common feeling towards her character amongst the comments. Raven needs the Justice League treatment!
Comment below any other unpopular opinions you may have on Raven!
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Yes to everything, I’d just let Beast Boy join Justice League dark too, especially now that his connection to the Red is becoming more prevalent in his stories.
Swamp thing, Beast Boy, Mera, one of the hawks kinda interesting set up for a storyline for Justice League Dark. Grundy or a revived character could represent the grey/rot.
for me its a big YES for a Zatanna + Raven combo (and we can even see the interections they could have had about their father and how it work very differently, one hate her father
and the other miss hers), I coultd totaly see her on the justice league dark team or the classic league (well I think Zatanna would hve the magic role first but why not) also a black label for each of the 2 would be asome.
2:20 to quote Star Lord,
“Of course I have issues, THAT’S MY FRICKIN FATHER!
I actually really like your hot take. It almost gives me Symbiote Spider-Man vibes. Maybe this new force allows Raven to tap into her full power and emotion without the risk of unleashing trigon? And after being so emotionally repressed for so long, letting it all out feels really good to her, so good that once she’s finished the mission that she needed the power up for she can’t bring herself to take it off and all of her pent-up rage and aggression begins to have serious negative consequences. I don’t no if Raven has a rule against killing, but she’s generally the hero that doesn’t do that, but maybe now she’s getting to the point where she would consider killing even a lonely mugger and the Titans or the Justice league have to pull her back to the light.
Elseworld shit is sometimes better then canon shit.
Honestly zatanna would be the perfect mentor/mother figure for raven. Why hasn’t DC done this before?! Hell give us an animated show of something like that in a similar way to the Harley Quinn show and maybe have Tara strong voice her again as an added bonus.
I agree with Raven having her "Dark Phoenix" arc. A few days ago, I was researching about the Amalgam Universe, and I thought it would be a neat idea to fuse Raven with Jean Gray due to their power set and The Phoenix.
As I was watching this video, I remembered a myth (not sure about the mythology it originated from, sorry) about crows being originally rainbow-colored, but by bringing fire to Earth, their feathers were covered in soot, making them completely black, although the rainbow feathers could still be observed if looked closely. Maybe they could use this myth as inspiration for this arc, perhaps even linking Raven to the Emotional Spectrum due to her being an empath (and becoming white at her most powerful moments).
Oh that's Native Indian mythology! That's a really cool idea!
Most of all I agree with the take about restoring the empath part of her character. Personally I wouldn't want her on the justice league but a spot on the justice league dark team is something i always thought of. My ideal line up would include both the big names and some more obscure picks which would consist of Constantine, Zatanna, Raven, Andrew Bennet, Azrael and last spot either The Spectre if they can depower him to a good level or Etrigan. If you ever do a video on your JLD line up it'd be cool if you gave your quick analysis on this type of line up. Because I feel that these team books are a good way to give spotlight to the characters who have been absent from the readers eyes for some time.
Also the Zatanna/Raven team up with them being mentor and apprentice is a really cool one.
Zatanna's sidekick, her cousin Zachary Zatara would probably be cool with Raven. Also I agree with Zatanna being a main Justice Leaguer she should be a member of the main 7.
Definitely thought of this depends of his age tho he could be brought into the tiants
@@jugghardy He was a member of the Titans. He was mentioned as being a member in Teen Titans 2003. Also, he was a member of Raven's Nightforce in Raven: Daughter of Darkness.
I really loved the Damian and Djinn relationship In the comics. Djinn also had a similar powerset.
Having zatanna and Raven mentor mento role perfect
Raven deserves to be on the Justice League Dark, or maybe give the Nightforce\Shadowpact more respect. Starfire should be on a space-themed DC superhero team.
Definitely star needs sum more recognition and Raven being on that team peak
@@jugghardy There are plenty of cool Titans that deserve more recognition. Mal Duncan has been Guardian, Herald, and Vox.
I agree Justice League standard roster could use a dedicated magic user
I would like a hot takes to Metamorpho, he is a very underrated character, lucky he is having some popularity being casted on the Superman movie and also being part of the Terrifics.
Unpopular Opinion of my own: I don't like her with beast boy. I've never liked this pairing, something about it just feels...off. I get the raven and damian one, but I don't like that pairing either. I'm a big believer that relationships should have a fair amount of compatibility and I don't really get that with Rachel and Garfield. I know it's been in the comics, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'd much rather have her be with someone who, at least, walks in similar circles that she does/has been through similar experiences.
I always liked the idea of Raven Being John Constantine sidekick / mentor!!! lol damn i really like damirae!!!
can you make a video about ''Beast Boy Unpopular Opinions/Hot Takes'' like raven he's mainly just reduced to being in the titans, he's honestly less popular and more underrated than raven because where as she has gotten some solo comics Beast Boy has only gotten one in his entire existence and he deserves his own series or movie that explores his connection to the red and he should be like nightwing where he has his own city, villains and supporting cast and i think that he should also move on raven and this is coming from someone who loves BBRAE and really i think it'd be really interesting if he'd get paired up with cassandra cain and while cassandra and raven are quite simular i think that cass really needs someone like beast boy in her life and their dynamic could be so fun and interesting, he should also lead the titans since we have seen what kind of a leader he is and can be.
She's easily in my top 10 favourite DC characters ever. I personally think, in the grand scheme of things, she is not used enough. Here you have this powerful magic user, arguably the most powerful Teen Titans member, and yet I see very little of her being used. Maybe Raven as the leader of the Teen Titans or Justice League Dark would suit her well.
There also needs to be better writing in her stories. The Teen Titans cartoon captured this very well with an entire season dedicated to her arc. Episodes that all portrayed a sense of fear, anger, obsession, release, belonging. Raven could become so much more yet what she is currently just isn't it in the comics.
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My unpopular opinion is Raven shouldn't be with Beast Boy or Damian or anyone really. I just wish she'd be single again. I don't really like BBRae or DamiRae and to me it feels like Raven's writing suffers every time she's paired up with a guy. I think she should just be her own woman the way she used to be in older comics. Also, bring back her long black hair, it looks so much better than purple.
Hellfire Manipulation? I didn't know about that one. Makes sense though because, you know, demon. Also didn't know about the electrokinesis.
"I think the two characters [Raven and Zatanna] would simply get along together in the first place." Didn't Raven help create the Teen Titans at least in part because Zatanna made sure the league didn't accept her?
Regarding your "Phoenix" storyline idea, why does it even have to be a separate power and not her own inner demons becoming a bit stronger for whatever reason?
Next do hot takes on Grail the Godkiller, daughter of Darkseid
The Damian/Beast Boy thing for me is who is writing, want universe is it set in, how to they write all the characters.
Can we get Midnighter/the authority
What are some good Justice League Dark comics to read? I always wanted to read them.
Outside of the DCAMU films Damien is way too young for Raven! She’s a young woman & he’s what a tween right now?
I think Raven was done perfectly in the Teen Titans cartoon and we don't need any more. She had her arc and her relationship. Idk what else interesting they could do with her. So often I just see the same stuff done again but worse with characters, and I don't want that happening to her. I liked her a lot in the show... she's probably my 2nd favorite (Terra really stole my heart quickly)... but like, what else can be done?
Mentioning other relationships... depending on her age, I could see more or less a fling with Constantine working in an alternate really where the age gap isn't so massive. Not that I think John has any moral objections 😒 But with how much everyone else hates Batman X Batgirl hooking up, even though there's an interview from Bruce Timm where the ENTIRE POINT, right down to the sound in the scene is to indicate it's a mistake... you know, like people make... I don't think Constantine should get with someone half his age. I was really bothered by the implied relationship between Deathstroke and Terra in the Judas Contract movie... but also I kinda think that's a good thing since it shows how bad Deathstroke can be? But that just kinda goes back to how I think that was done so much better in the cartoon. Where that implied relationship with a literal teenager, a MINOR I believe... wasn't necessary. (Idk maybe she was actually 18/19 in The Judas Contract and it just gave me the extra ick because of the cartoon where she was like 15-16?)
I only like Damian and Raven together if they are around the same age or if they are both adults where an age gap wouldn't matter.
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I like the character, but only seen a little of her story. Mainly from watching the Titan's series and like here there. Great power, great back story and I wished they had a spinoff or a few more solo episodes. But..... I really liked her in the Teen Titans cartoon on YTV. I like watching it with my niece and nephew... I may have watched it a bit on my own as well... dont' Judge!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Don’t know if this is unpopular but I really hate how she keeps being aged down in DC (along with some of the other characters). It doesn’t really feel organic with the characters who’ve stayed the same age (eg. Starfire and Nightwing) because both those characters are important in her development. Especially in a dark Phoenix type storyline which I’d love to see.
I think Damien’s Robin is way too young for her. Even if they were the same age in some universe. Just because they have similar backgrounds with parental issues doesn’t necessarily create good character chemistry. It’s quite a stale relationship because they have nothing to really offer each other in terms of beneficial differences or growth.
So I’d rather she be alone or maybe with Beast boy because they could at least challenge each other’s outlooks on life and can help each other grow into better more rounded and mature characters (not just the dark goth girl or the funny guy archetypes). Overall I think comics can be pretty bad at writing relationships. But that’s just my opinion.
She's a young adult rn
It feels like they created the Titans\Teen Titans distinction because so many of the original Titans are no longer teenagers. Like Rose Wilson made a joke back in the Teen Titans 2003 series about how the Teen Titans have too many adult members who cannot be called teens by any stretch of the term. At this rate the Titans should call themselves the Mighty Mortgage-Payers.
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Damians a great character not sure why the hate. I know he can be written regressively by lesser writers who ignore his growth but that doesn't make him a bad character. As for his sometimes relationship woth raven depending on the universe....meh
8:50 I just finished watching all of Teen Titans and Raven and Beast Boy never showed any interest for each other so I don't get the nostalgic part of your reason. It was only Robin x Starfire, Beast Boy x Terra, and Jinx x Kid Flash. Raven and Cyborg never showed interest in anyone.
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I’ve always hated the all white suit
Personally in my opinion the Damian and Raven ship it’s gross like other subscribers said she justice league worthy so why she dating Damian who like 13 and she going date a Robin why not nightwing 😂
Nightwing is already taken. Red Robin or Red Hood maybe?
@@Lordmewtwo151 yeah but no kids and not married so it could work red hood maybe Tim lil young
Okay so… I enjoy Damian ❤Raven and just despise Beast Boy & Raven.
Being a Damirea fan actually lead me down an interesting path. Cause normally when I ship a couple it doesn’t change ever but because of Raven age being manipulated constantly. I now have 2 Raven’s in my head. Younger Raven with Damian on tv stuff and Older comic book Raven.
Older Comic book Raven doesn’t really have a partner in my head quite yet but out of curiosity it lead me to what others thought should be Raven’s romantic partner. I even did a poll… sorta of.
So there’s…
All 4 Robins: Greyson, Todd, Drake & Damian Wayne.
Wally West and… Wallace West(?)
Zachary Zatara
Beast Boy (🤢)
Jericho
Superboy (Kon el)
Tempest (Garth)
Starfire
Orphan: Cassandra Cain
Than there’s my poll’s Top 3 romantic partner (men only)
Green Lantern: Simon Baz
Firestorm
Captain Boomerang Jr. : Owen Mercer (Digger’s Son)
Finally my personal romantic hot takes!😁
Sanderson Hawkins (Sandy)
Manchester Black
Jack Cooper Hawksmoor (King of Cities)
* Cause why not. Raven’s an interesting woman. She should have a man her could match her.😎
🤨interesting for younger Raven cool I guess that could be suffice. But adult Raven nightwing personally and zarctary and the beast boy just
Nostalgia but I had to comment cause I think Damian and Raven gross Damian need girls like his father and syblings but don’t take frm his brother roster
@@jugghardy To each their own. The only reason it doesn’t bother me. Like it does you. Is because I’m so used to Raven being deaged.