@@punisher00109 Interesting, I didn't knew that. I believe it's always best to optimize your natural hormone levels first with a form of weight training, proper nutrition and enough sleep. Using gels or getting injections for the rest of your life is no joke.
@Tyson MMA my situation is complex, very complex. if you still feel good than yes of course. pretty sure my problem is genetic, my androgen receptors do not process testosterone correctly. there still isn't enough research on this. no doctor would even touch me, had to find a specialist, but it cured all of my symptoms. willing to take the risk.
34 and just started TRT two months ago. Ive lost 25lbs, bike 8miles a day, my depression is almost completely gone, I’m in control of my anxiety, feel more motivated . I probably needed it when I was in my 20s but my doctors just gave me anti anxiety or anti depressants.
@@swisstrader I spoke to my primary care doctor. I told her about all my symptoms and if I could get a blood test to check my levels. Sure enough T was low. I’m still losing weight, but the muscle I have put on since this post has been significant. Just ask your doctor to test your levels, that’s step 1. Good luck!
@@swisstrader If you try and go through your primary care doctor, they will only treat you if you are below the recommended levels however, if you go to a anti aging clinic they will treat your symptoms of low t even if its not "clinically low". Not hard to get unless you're naturally high and or, have really bad health issues (I.E. prostate, thyroid, etc.)
When I was doing TRT the biggest benefit for me was mental clarity. It's those damn hormones again! Low testosterone makes you lethargic and depressed.
@@patrickparson9628 Uhm, "Healthy women have just as much testosterone as healthy men" is completely wrong. You can't just say stuff like that. (I'll let you google it yourself as you should have before typing it)
@@patrickparson9628 That's not true at all. A healthy woman doesn't even have half of the testosterone of a healthy man. Hell, even a woman with relatively high testosterone won't have as much as a man with lower levels of T. Testosterone is produced in men by the testicles. Women produce testosterone, but NOWHERE NEAR at the levels that a man with semi-functional balls do. If women had the same levels, they would have facial hair, bone density, and muscle mass at the same levels as men. They would also cease to menstruate and loss their fertility. Whereas high testosterone make men more fertile.
34 here and on TRT, 100 test cyp, once a week. For years I’ve battled depression and anxiety. I hit the gym 5-6 times a week and ate a very clean diet but with test levels at 250…it just wasn’t enough. Best decision I’ve ever made! I’ve been able to quit my depression and anxiety drugs! Today I was able to hit the gym hard, and took my kids out to the park to play the entire day! Finally feel like I can be the dad that my kids needs and a husband that is FULLY functional. It’s a game changer! Get your levels tested!
I’m right around that same number, and 39. Literally talked to my doc today, seeing the other doc Tuesday. So excited, can’t wait!!! Looking forward to the energy and not being a maniac over the littlest thing lol
I'm 43. My total came back at 286. I workout (heavy kettlebell and BJJ) 4 to 5 days a week. Eat, sleep, stress management... I always feel like I'm playing catch up. I'm at the point where I either need to start a theraputic level of trt or reduce my activity.
@@TDR85 I think no matter what you do, your still gonna feel like shit imo. I’m at 252, regardless if I have enough sleep, working my ass off or sitting on the beach on holiday, I still feel lazy as hell. From everything I’ve seen or read, every dude has said the energy and mental clarity is really noticeable. Im absolutely going that route. I want that number at minimal at 1k, nothing below if possible.
@@patrickjames661 do you really think every man takes some miracle pills? You are online and you are listening to a small circle of influencers who in turn listen to each other. But majority of men live without it and feel fine. But what do I know
@@octobeastX for sure I totally understand that... I think it is a fair point to bring up when talking about dominating your buddies in a fitness challenge though. I'm positive Bert and Ari and Tom know about the TRT ( and dont care) but it is fair to acknowledge the advantage it does provide.
Aardvark 52 I think he isn't taking too much, he's too much of a health freak to over do it. Joe's to type of nigga that takes his shit to a lab once a month to get it analyzed and milk his prostate regularly, for health reasons.
I mean its really not that great to see because most people are idiots without the resources he has and he is encouraging them to do things that can be hurtful.
jon doe not legit and joe is not that healthy man. Dude never went on one cleanse which is a big part about health. Joes shit probably stinks like rotten eggs
There's nothing wrong with it at all. But he can't brag about his fitness being better than everyone else's. But honestly he's human. I would brag about it to and everyone here who loves themselves enough would as well. LOL.
I’m 25 and suffered with low T my whole life so I decided on TRT and my life is SOOO SOOO much better. I’m more happy I’m more confident it’s fuckin awesome.
This will probably become more mainstream in a few years. It looks like, stigma apart, that it could be something quite positive for many men hitting their 40-50s
Thats the age that I would only consider doing it (barring severe mental health issues). I feel as if I should be able ti naturally keep my levels high/at normal rates in my 30s
@@kleshayer3751 Rock is obviously taking high amounts the bodybuilders do while Kevin Hart is naturall but I bet he will be on it when he starts to decline he has good genes.
Ugh. This is eye opening. I have always been against steroids and PED’s but I’ve struggled with depression and ADHD for my whole life. I’m 55 and on meds. Maybe this is the route I need to take. Gonna check it out! Thanks Fellahs. 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
I just started this therapy. I was depressed, full of anxiety, lack of energy. I'm on my 4th week. I'm sleeping, almost no anxiety. I'm still waiting for the energy to pop. I did what Joe explained. I got off alcohol, sugar, limited my diet. I'm not going to lie. Alcohol was a struggle but I'm 3 weeks in no drinking.
@@commentscopyrightattorney5543 . Still sleeping well, no anxiety (got off of zolof). I'm limiting my alcohol intake and sugar as well. My energy is back but not teenager like stuff but get this ... my sex drive is through the roof!
@@thebammer4832 I'm almost hitting 30 and i have been tired af for the past 5yrs, I've been on several ssri's which never did spit and I did check my levels twice and the range was 220-230 within a gap of 7 months. I'm terribly anxious, moody, lack of initiative, no longer desire women. Tell me honestly do you think I should go for this?
@@PawnshopmikeATL Plenty of people I sold to when I worked at a gas station sound like diaz. And they smell bad without knowing it. Plenty of people quit, so it's up to you
TRT has been a major life saver for me for years I dealt with depression and anxiety and not one anti depressant was able to help me get back to normal but TRT has been a lifesaver and it should be offered to more patients as long as they have been checked regularly and are not trying to abuse it…. People who have depression or anxiety don’t have to struggle anymore but still some Dr’s are not willing to take the opportunity and add to the quality of life and benefits to their patients.. this has to change!!!
@@shaun8353 watch your blood pressure, also your nuts will shrink, also your blood will thicken and your risk of heart attacks and strokes increase a lot.
If your not on TRT and you absolutely need it, I’m here to tell you, go see a doctor, get your levels tested. I’ve been on TRT for year and it’s the best life decision I ever made. I’m 36 and feel like I’m 18.
@@screamofitness Lower testosterone in younger adults is becoming more common. It's because the chemicals in plastic affect hormone levels. Obviously plastic is everywhere. Most food comes packaged in plastic. Medicines, vitamins, soaps, shampoos, etc. Even if you actually avoid plastics you will still get them in your system. Your good hormones will be lower than they should be. TRT will raise those hormones to healthy levels. I asked my doctor about TRT when I was about 32. The doctor says to wait until I was 40, and then insurance will cover it. I'm 39 and looking forward to it next year.
@@JB-1138 wow it's hard for me to relate I am 33 and I do just about everything I can to manage stress, sleep enough eat healthy and take any vitamin or supplement that is Natural that i can take and i have been able to maintain good healthy Testosterone levels.
cory ddp $15-$20 per 200mg of test cyp on the street, once a week won’t break the bank, but the blood tests an co-pays add up, so if you wanna do it the right way it’s gonna add up.
You can get 9 months supply of testosterone cyp for less than $100 from a pharmacy. On the street, it would cost less than half that. The growth hormone is really expensive, though.
TRT changed my life. I was 109 pounds at 33. I'm 35 and 161 and happy. Deca changed my life too. I wish I did it sooner. It was all because of a 2 min conversation with my doctor. We were talking about getting therapy to help me with life and in conversation I said "It's like the testosterone was beaten and screamed/yelled out of me when I was a child" .... Turns out there is something called "Cortisol" in my blood that kept me in survival mode.
Powerlifter, weight lifter, 315lbs, 6'2". ED issues requested a testerone blood test. Blood test completed. Met doc(female). Asked doc what my T level was, was told that was unimportant but need to discuss what was found. I had a 7.6 A1c level diagnosed type 2 diabetic, high cholesterol, fatty liver disease, high blood pressure. I was depressed, lethargic, ED issues. Started popping crazy meds, weight didn't decrease, depression set in. Started regiment of TRT, 4 months in dropped A1c from 7.6 to 6.1. Doc asked what I was doing, said diet excercise. No mention of TRT. Blood tests are all positive, reversal of fatty liver, blood pressure normal numbers. Crazy
*BOOM* My doc isn't going to prescribe that to me *lol* I've looked at different websites too. So much info and simply *NO ONE* will tell you what to take or what website. I find it all hilarious. Makes me think that no one is really even taking it because NO ONE will tell you what website and how much to take. ha!
I had my first TRT appointment last month and first blood test last week, and everything Joe is saying is true. The medical advisor kept asking me about sleep, weed and booze. He said don’t bother with TRT if I smoke weed because marijuana devastates Testosterone in men.
I’m smoke weed occasionally so I didn’t think it would effect me but I smoked and tried to get some abs I couldn’t I’m like this defeats the purpose !!! 🤦🏿♂️
young boxing hey this is a little off topic, but I figured I’d ask. I’m assuming you’re from the uk based on how you talk and I have always wondered what rate means. Like “they don’t rate you”
It’s a heart rate competition though so technically he has to do way more exercise to get his heart rate up so it’s not like the competition is horribly unbalanced
@@hellohello-jj2lf Been on it for 10 years...I'm 48. Feel great, lean, retaining muscle, good libido.It's becoming normal for any active guy who cares about health/quality of life over 40. Guys openly talk about it at my gym. No shame... declining T with age is a fact of life, TRT solves that problem. Just keep up with regular bloodwork to make sure everything on point.
TRT is not all unicorns and rainbows. Testosterone therapy has various risks, including: 1) Worsening sleep apnea - a potentially serious sleep disorder in which breathing repeatedly stops and starts. 2) Causing acne or other skin reactions. 3) Stimulating noncancerous growth of the prostate (benign prostatic hyperplasia) and growth of existing prostate cancer. 4) Enlarging breasts. 5) Limiting sperm production or causing testicles to shrink. 6) Stimulating too much red blood cell production, which contributes to the increased risk of forming a blood clot. A clot could break loose, travel through your bloodstream and lodge in your lungs, blocking blood flow (pulmonary embolism). 7) Hair loss
You need medical advice in order to be in it and also while on it You have go get your blood work done pretty much every 90 days to 180 days and adjust has necessary plus you have to be a good candidate to be on TRT, when everything is fine it’s a no brainer… it is unicorns and rainbows But I suggest on medical professional advice and monitor
To put this into further perspective the age gap between Joe Rogan and Joey Diaz is only 5 yrs... But its like Joe is talking to a friends dad in the vid
Well also to be fair, informed, consistent & honest.....Joey Diaz since he was an urban grade school kid was fkin his body up HARD. He was lookinglike a rough 65 till around 2005. Then he looked 81 with terminal illnesses for 15 years. It is what it is. He's been getting ALOT better for a couple years now so here's hoping he'll only continue on the path he's on especially now that he has a kid of his own.
It’s called replament for a reason , trt brings you back to what a normal standard should be not at a insane steroid level. Dealing with unknown anxiety because of low T , trt has made my life 💯 better , in great shape and making more money than I ever have . I’m with Rogan!
@@himboslice_ You can't get on it unless your levels are low at least from most doctors. I assumed people just did it because they had low Testosterone. People on TRT dont some to respond much better in the gym than guys with normal levels from what I have seen though. Now juice is a whole different story.
@@heuvelke1065 Thats great if that’s true but this is just your assumption unless you have bloodwork done on every Man you know or somehow know what’s going on with them internally. Most men hide or ignore their weaknesses vs embrace them and find ways to overcome them. All the best
@@himboslice_ most Drs. Don’t know what they are doing , they jump into it because of money so you get cookie cutter protocols. It’s important to do your research independently and consult with a good Dr that knows their stuff.
Shit sure helped me, for some reason my production got knocked out after Iraq. Was emotional and depressed, constantly felt like dogshit. Then I asked my doc to check my test levels and boom sure that was the problem. Doc started me on TRT and i've felt better ever since.
@Origin It doesnt work like that at all. I know people on TRT and they dont look any younger lol. Dont act like it's something its not. It's false advertising to people who don't know any better. People on cycle of steroids like far older than their age if anything, not that TRT does that, but it def doesnt make you look younger anyway. You might feel younger if your levels were low before though.
@@billj4525 You're also wrong bud, i know of many cases in which TRT combined with MANY other pre-requisites, parallele factors/variables, et al.....has 60s men in our respective socities look, feel & sorta be like if they're in their 40s now.
I actually suffered from depression for many years. I started counseling and she recommended me to get my levels checked. I was tested and my testosterone was low. I started shots and my depression went way
I am 56 and i'm on testosterone replacement therapy.For those who think it is dangerous and unhealthy your clueless,Having low testosterone can have terrible health effects along with low testosterone is high estrogen which can and will cause a whole lot of issues.I go through a doctor and i get blood work every 6 to 10 weeks.
Unfortunately my insurance didn't cover it so I had to go thru a very good clinic and I pay 340 every 10 weeks for my testosterone hcg and arimidex its not that bad.I was probably better off any because a reg doctor isn't to verse on trt most think being at 200 to 300 ngl is ok.These primary doctors are a joke.
Just turned 50 and I started on testosterone about 9 months ago. Blood work showed levels were practically non-existent on my own and I was feeling it. Hard time waking up and getting through the days. I work out 5 days a week. It became a struggle to get up and go and there were no gains at that point. This has made a huge difference. I sleep better, feel better, have a more clear and positive outlook, and I have energy to get up and hit the gym and look better now than I did 5 years ago. I would absolutely recommend it to anyone over 40 for sure.
Just got mine tested and mine was 78 I feel absolutely horrible all the time fall asleep every time I sit down started the cream 3 weeks ago I'm hoping to start feeling better soon
@@BAR-ct7ti of course you do! There is no way you can just cheat your way into something. It simply doesn’t work that way. For example street drugs make you feel great for a while and you can even lose ton of weight. But we all know what happens once you get into withdrawal phase
@@chriseaton7887 How are you now?? I'm 41 and tested at 188 in 2021 and last week tested at 88. Started on the gel this morning myself. I don't care about looks, I just want to feel better like I used to! I literally struggled to get through each day at work, then would go home & struggle to stay awake. Just felt sluggish all of the time, felt depressed, and just had such a bad outlook on everything.
I'm 56, and just got tested. Mine is down to 230. It's no wonder why I feel like shit. I can't wait to get my cream prescription. The doc also ordered desiccated thyroid as well.
I think a lot of successful men have used testosterone and it’s a big reason they’re where they are. The rock is a good example. I think it not just helps the body but the mind, and helps with confidence. I’ve seen a lot of dudes on testosterone that seem to have a mental edge.
Yeah, but he's on a dangerous level of steroids at his size. What your saying is dangerous mentioning the Rock. When people cycle hormones at high doses like that it ruins them instead of improves them. I mean look at all the bodybuilders that have died recently, its nuts, and the stuff very obviously kills and a lot of the times at young age. I think in low doses like TRT their could be some truth to what you said, but The Rock is not a good example.
Drs in Canada don't think twice about prescribing hormones to teenage girls to keep them from getting pregnant yet for a man to get TRT from your Dr is damn near impossible
@@commentscopyrightattorney5543 i’d say 100 too 250mg a week sus 250, but if you wanna get jacked 500mg to 1ml a week of sus, but you gonna be fighting estrogen at that level 250 mg a week you should be fine withou side effects, and will give you a good amount of T in the body
@@aliabdelaziz7585 Also the misconception you need steroids to be jacked. Their are naturals more jacked than dudes on steroids all over the place, although its rare, but with good genes compared to a juicer with bad genes it happens all the time.
Haha, I love how that guy laughs! Makes me laugh myself! Started TRT 3-4 months ago, and feel much better now. Still have a long way to go, but its going in the right direction. No more raving depression and steady fat gain, and total loss of energy and motivation.
He's on on TRT man, that barely bring his levels above natural men. It doesnt matter though because not even guys on tons and tons of juice can recover from that properly. Who said he was recovering? No one could recover from that. Ask guys on heavy juice and they will tell u the same thing. You have to keep in mind this was competition so natural or not you do what you have to do to win if you want to win badly. It depends what you do during the workouts too though.
I'm using accupuncture to raise my T levels. It works really well. I dont put the needles in my feet though. I put them in my glute or quad. And theyre attached to a syringe full of Test.
The stigma thing is real, I am on trt at the age of 29 and I felt bad or less man. Now that my levels are normal I am unstoppable, this message should be said more often.
I just started it today at 28 y/o, but I've been in the process of diagnosis for 3 years (NHS is slow). I'm looking forward to seeing how it affects me, on 140mg per week.
I don't have problems with guys in their 50s taking TRT and being open about it. But I do have problems with celebs and athletes who say their 1 yr body transformations was due to eating only chicken breasts and working with a Trainer.
Anyone with depression at any age should always get bloodwork done first. Check test/hormones and vitamin levels and start with diet and exercise. Then after 3 months check again and add meds/testosterone if needed. Hormones save lives! 🍻
As a guy who took a headshot which wrecked his endocrine system, depo T has been needed by my body since high school. Thanks for the objective info for the masses.
Joe is absolutely right, I'm on TRT for the last 7 months and I feel so good, when I stopped it, I felt like 70-80 years old man, joint pain, constantly tired, zero energy, high blood pressure, zero sex drive. But before you start, do all tests first 👌
@@krayziejerry my blood pressure went down on TRT ,my cholesterol is normal but it all depends what you eat , testosterone can increase bad cholesterol ,but I'm taking very low doses of test which is 0.3 (90mg of test) every 10 days
Brk please help I'm 27 and my total test came back at 390, my uncle which is 55 had 520 total test higher higher me and I sleep good no drugs work out 5 times a week
Just started TRT today. I'm 29 about to be 30 and my levels were 499. Not super low, but back about 5 years ago they were at 987. I was in amazing shape and could burn fat like no other. It's been taking me 3 days to recover from workouts when I used to go 2 on 1 off. Weight gain and sleepless nights. Hoping for the best! Only trying to get my levels back up to that 1000 mark.
I'm on week 4, remind me here in a bit and I'll update. So far feel pretty good, higher energy and better mood. Most trt benefits take 3-12 months to really kick in.
Testosterone: If you've never done it, you must. It is not extreme. It will not make you high or change your life. But it changes your mood, your confidence, your sex drive. You cannot know until you try it what that feels like, to never feel doubt.
I've been on TRT for over a year, and I'm 48. I'm under doctor supervision, and I can say it's made a _huge_ difference. Sex drive is up, I've lost weight and gained muscle without even working out. I feel much better overall, and the depression and anxiety that I've suffered from for years, has almost disappeared. If you're a man over 40, you should get your levels tested, I wish I had done it sooner. The benefits could, and probably will be life altering.
Starting testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is a lifelong commitment. If you have low testosterone, it is often due to being stuck in the sympathetic mode of your autonomic nervous system. This constant fight-or-flight state prepares your body to respond to threats, reducing the need for testosterone. To naturally boost your testosterone, it's essential to shift your nervous system into the parasympathetic mode, which allows your endocrine system to release healing hormones like testosterone. Breathwork is a powerful tool to achieve this reset. Join me on my channel and try this short, 5-minute daily breathwork exercise.
As anti-aging technology grows the discussion of it for aging athletes is going to grow as well. The millennials may be the last generation to accept declining with age as a standard.
TRT is not really an anti-ageing therapy in any strict sense. Things like test levels and NAD+ levels decline with age for a reason.. most likely to avoid things like caner and over-stressing things like the cardio-vascular system. Having high range test all your life and in later years probably speeds up the ageing process.. even if it feels like it's doing the opposite for a while
@@lolcano2346 never thought of it that way and it makes alot of sense. I am 46 and thinking of taking TRT for increased energy. It may speed up aging but i believe if you diet, excercise and sleep well and just take good care of your body it could keep you younger with increased energy. Balance is key.
@@jpm408 Of course balance is key. Having low testosterone may result in age related issues progressing as well. Exactly how much for a given person is the question. People who seem to be higher in androgen levels seem to benefit in some ways but lose out in others One over-arching theme that David Sinclair always comes back to is that performance and longevity are mutually exclusive things in biology. You optimize one at the expense of the other Makes sense, in a general sense- performance equals ramped up cellular activity/replication (growth) and an increased metabolism where as longevity typically values a slower metabolism and an extended cell life cycle (slower rate of cell turn over in tissues). This is due to the fact that a cell can only divide so many times in a tissue before it becomes terminal Perhaps this is why athletes appear to age badly and athletes jacked up on steroids seem to do even worse David Sinclair on the other-hand looks very young for his age but he's obviously about as athletic as a wet noodle His entire lifestyle is based around eating as little as possible and only pushing his body as far as is necessary to avoid a sedentary lifestyle being a problem His 80 something year old dad is apparently fitter and stronger than him lol
@@jpm408 Oh and if you end up jumping on TRT, feel free to drop back in here and let me know how it's going haha I'm 29 and already feeling like I could use me a bit of TRT :)
@@jpm408 also worth considering that people have been reporting reversal of age related declines in hormone production with NMN. Many woman have claimed to have reversed their menopause entirely back into menstruation with the stuff. Of course this would be rather amazing if true If there actually is something to these claims then it would seem reasonable to suppose that NMN could possibly do the same for andropause (age related decline in testosterone in males) If true then perhaps this might give you a better option for addressing your test levels than TRT. At the very least you might not have to rely so heavily on TRT I bring this up because TRT is a life time commitment once you're on it if I'm not mistaken. Seems like fixing your bodys natural hormone production would be the way to go if it's actually a viable option Seems like a good general rule full stop, fixing your bodies natural production of a thing is probably always going to be better than simply introducing that thing to the body artificially Having said that, taking NMN seems no different to taking TRT in that regard haha Food for thought anyway Hope it all goes well what ever you end up doing :)
I have been feeling so terrible lately. (Couple years now) finally got blood work done and my testosterone levels were 184. 😭 Stress has been killing me like a mfr. I’m 25yrs old. Might get onto trt. I use to workout, now I have no energy to do anything in life really.
I did trt twice for 6 ish months, it messed up my cholesterol levels and gave me heart problems. Being off of it, and still being physically active, I feel alot better. I had to raise my endurance and be smarter about my training, but now I feel great. It's not for everyone, but doing enough exercise regularly and eating a decent diet is all you really need. I recently did blood tests, and my natural test levels had increased from just being more active.
@willg37 I was dealing with symptoms of fatigue, depression and the like. I got my test checked out and it was low, below average, I think 250. I got on it and it raised my t to about 550-600. But the side effects for me were bad after an while, and got off of it. I work a psychical job, so having energy after work was a bit of an issue. But, now I just push through it, make myself be active after work, and I enjoy it now.
@@fleshhammer656 We live in a society wherein most people have a fast food mentality. Most want it quick and instant. Exercising consistently, eating very healthy and supplementing certain nutrients in a semi random, but semi consistent way, losing fat (but not too much), meditating and learning other ways to deal with stress and anger, and sleeping better consistently, will in combo help most men to naturally regain higher levels of T. (maybe also avoiding plastic use and some other things?). But that is hard to do when you area already low T. I'm in my mid 40's and definitely feeling lower T. I don't want to go on TRT because it is expensive (especially if you don't have insurance), potentially health affecting in a negative sense (if you're not dosed right etc), and most importantly--if you're not taking other things, it shuts down your natural production. I've decided to try kiss peptin for a little while to see if it helps. It avoids a lot of the potential negative side effects, and is much, much lower cost. I can buy 5 mg for around 50 dollars, and at my weight, that will last me almost 8 months (at twice a week injections, which I plan to start at, and increase to 3 if only needed). But I don't plan to take it that long anyways. I just want to try it for the next few months during the winter/early spring, as I tend to have higher T and feel better from mid spring to early fall period (some of that is likely greater sun exposure and being more active). I could stand to lose 30lbs or so. I feel like once I lose that weight, while exercising more consistently and getting better sleep, a lot of lower T issues of lower energy/motivation will correct itself more naturally, and I won't need to be on anything long term. I really don't want to be dependent on something outside of myself. I have the diet part down already. I eat really healthy consistently. I have the stress management mostly down. Just need to work on the exercise and better sleep more.
My testosterone was low 200s and now I’m over 900, I don’t workout, much I’ve kept most of the muscle size, and I have tons of energy, my sex drive is like I’m taking viagra every day. I feel overall really amazing compared to before. It’s somewhat harder to gain fat. I recommend it to those who want to feel like they’re 18 again.
OPIATES including methadone and suboxone can destroy test. Been clean 7 years and my levels are extremely low. Trt changed my life, got me off other meds and sober af.
I've never understood why there is so much stigma around TRT. Why is it controversial for someone with low T to get therapeutic doses to get into the normal range without being labeled a cheater or a roid head? Either you take T or suffer from severe depression and mental/physical ailments or feel like a normal healthy man. I don't understand why it's banned in sports either if the levels are in the normal range. It's like telling someone with cerebral palsy they can't get corrective surgery or they're a cheater.
It makes a huge difference. I was ridiculously sick. I lost 9 kilos over 2 weeks. My father in law saw me and I was told he cried half of the way home at how weak and sick I looked. Over the past 10 days I have been on the mend and using 120mg. Andriol testocaps daily, and the difference is astounding. I am still weak and thin compared to what I was pre sickness. However, I am looking more like the healthy me every day. I am 60.
@@ZenCenterUpaya Thanks for the concern. I am 100%. Only drag is I cannot augment my body with the testosterone. As I have returned to the US and we are not allowed to do what we want with our bodies. We have to get a doctor's prescription. Madness.. As I am fit, they say "no need." I wish all the best for you and yours.
@@chrisweidner4768 bro, just go to a different doctor or look for an online TRT clinic. It shouldnt be that hard to find someone who will prescribe it to you.
@@ZenCenterUpayaI’m 65 and doing great. Back in the USA and taking care of my dad. It’s disappointing because the VA won’t let me take anything. Saying my natural level is fine/ sigh. This is a frustration living in the USA. We don’t have access to things that are available globally to enhance the quality of life. Wishing you the best.
But yet no one responded to you in two years, you could be dead now for all we know lol - Why is that NO ONE simply tells others what website to go too and how much to take? That's why I believe many of these comments are bull crap or Ai. lol
Some disadvantages of taking external testosterone, that needs to be mentioned also: 1. Shuts off and possibly destroys the signal-function in the brain, that is used to control and adjust the test levels produced by the testicles naturally. Making you dependent on external testosterone...mostly a concearn if you don't have a medical reason(testosterone levels within normal ranges for your particular age and life style) , before jumping on trt. 2. You have to worry about always having access to testosteren for the rest of life. Situations like virus epidemics/nature catastrophies/wars and other un-planned events could make it very stressful to keep supplies incoming. 3. Aside from regular injections of test, you also have to get blodtests done in a planned periodic manner. Increased blood thickness/psa values etc. needs to get checked, when on testosterone. 4. Speeds up certain aging processes and organs... your body ages quicker with increased hormone levels....the dose will determine by how much. You can't have the best of everything! ;-)
Ya there’s cancer and heart risks as well. However it’s kind of pros and cons, if it improves quality of life and you monitor maybe it’s worth it. Get your sleep right, take vitamin d as if it were TRY religiously, lift weight, clean up diet, and learn to meditate from buddhists. Also your test (on average) is lowest at 35 and stays that way. That’s why 35 onwards most men slowly blobify.
I've never been in any competitive sports, but always enjoyed nutrition, clean living, and keeping up on good nutrition. I am really focused and aware of hormone levels and balance. I'm gonna be 58 years old in April; many say I look 10 years younger. I can't really remember how great I felt when I was in my 20s, but sometimes, do to my lack of nutritional knowledge and overtraining at the time, I had some pretty low and unenergetic times. If I remember correctly, I actually feel better now than I did in my 20s. That could be owed to the fact that I am very health conscious and know a hell of a lot about nutrition and exercise. I'm not a huge guy, but look great for a person who only uses nutrition, sleep, stress management, and exercise with proper recuperation between work outs. I gauge my hormone levels on sex drive and morning wood. Things that I have noticed in age: Sex drive can change drastically from week to week due to sleep and/or stress levels. When I was younger, it didn't matter. When I went through a devastating life issue, I lost all sex drive for two or three months; that would never happen if I was 20 yrs old. I have to eat properly to keep my sex drive up. Raw vegetables and "root" type plants are a requirement for higher hormones; not so at 20 yrs old. I am a firm believer in keeping things natural. I have always maintained my physique. In the last 3 years I have been working out and trying to gain muscle. Although I have always gained very slowly, no matter what age, I am able to gain about 1 lb to 2lb per year lately which is added to lagging areas. I owe this to a very strict diet. In short, I like to do what I can while I am able to do it naturally. When I stop being able to naturally enjoy the pleasures of sex, and I start feeling the effects of a low hormonal level, at that time I would definitely look at TRT. I feel that putting it off for as long as possible is the better way to go. I just feel that there is so much you can do with your lifestyle to keep your hormone levels high and balanced. I fukng love these podcasts. You have some great guests that have awesome information.
I had my testosterone levels taken 4 years ago and they were low. I had them done yesterday at 60 years old and my testosterone levels are up 8 points and are at the top end of the mid range and I don't take steroids. 🏋️♂️💪🖕
Jo is straight up telling the truth. I am not on TRT but have been in the past. And the amount of energy was astronomical, not to mention my body looked so much better.
It's not all that matters, if it's in your system... Guys are thinking they're getting jacked and more manly when in reality these dummies are making themselves sterile. Falling right into the opposition's hands like slush . I saw this 17 year old at the gym today that was juiced, and I thought to myself why ?
Theres a world of difference between testosterone replacement therapy and enhancement. The dosage you take on replacement slightly impairs your fertility as a worst case scenario. You can even completely negate that side effect by using a small dosage of hgh, like 1-2 IUs daily. And yes, even with that rather low replacement dose, youre definatly getting more jacked. And more "manly". The mental effect alone makes a huge difference if you've been on the lower end of the spectrum or had a significant regress due to an accident or a trauma. And the physical effect is just as impressive. Youre still fuckin tired after your job, workout or whatever youre doing. But you can feel your body leaning up against it and counteracting the physical toll. What felt like delaying a loss previously starts to feel like its a game you can win.
Makes me wonder, why don't they check free test levels at depressed men before prescribing antidepressants?
Virt Real stigma. You also cant come off trt without permanent suppression
@@punisher00109 Yeah, that seems to be the case. Aids like Clomid don't seem to work, according to doctors.
@@the_notorious_bas Clomid works temporarily. Once you come off, your T gradually goes back to how it was prior to Clomid therapy
@@punisher00109 Interesting, I didn't knew that. I believe it's always best to optimize your natural hormone levels first with a form of weight training, proper nutrition and enough sleep. Using gels or getting injections for the rest of your life is no joke.
Less money for them to make
When Joey Diaz laughs, I can see his mucus covered lungs fluttering like a spider's web in the wind.
Haha that's a beautiful image.
Holy fuck... thats an underrated comment right there.
Hahaha
Great analogy
I will remember this comment for the rest of my life 😂
Wtf that voice sound like optimus prime returned to earth
So cool...
lol
Lmao
😂😂😂😂
Sounds like a chain smoker
I’m 34 been on trt 6 months. Off depression and anxiety meds and in the best shape of my life and i was a college athlete.
Can I talk to you about TRT personally?
It is the god chemical isn’t it?
my man, just started at 31. 45 days in, never felt better in my life.
Dawood Musa just do it
@Tyson MMA my situation is complex, very complex. if you still feel good than yes of course. pretty sure my problem is genetic, my androgen receptors do not process testosterone correctly. there still isn't enough research on this. no doctor would even touch me, had to find a specialist, but it cured all of my symptoms. willing to take the risk.
34 and just started TRT two months ago. Ive lost 25lbs, bike 8miles a day, my depression is almost completely gone, I’m in control of my anxiety, feel more motivated . I probably needed it when I was in my 20s but my doctors just gave me anti anxiety or anti depressants.
I needed it when I was 26 my test levels were below 280.. I just started trt at 28
Do you mind me asking how you got started, meaning what type of Dr did you see? Thanks
@@swisstrader I spoke to my primary care doctor. I told her about all my symptoms and if I could get a blood test to check my levels. Sure enough T was low. I’m still losing weight, but the muscle I have put on since this post has been significant. Just ask your doctor to test your levels, that’s step 1. Good luck!
@@konradzach4326 how’s it been helping so far?
@@swisstrader If you try and go through your primary care doctor, they will only treat you if you are below the recommended levels however, if you go to a anti aging clinic they will treat your symptoms of low t even if its not "clinically low". Not hard to get unless you're naturally high and or, have really bad health issues (I.E. prostate, thyroid, etc.)
When I was doing TRT the biggest benefit for me was mental clarity. It's those damn hormones again! Low testosterone makes you lethargic and depressed.
why did you stop
@@ACE7O2 it's a fast way to bald
@@patrickparson9628 Uhm, "Healthy women have just as much testosterone as healthy men" is completely wrong. You can't just say stuff like that. (I'll let you google it yourself as you should have before typing it)
@@patrickparson9628 100% bullshit
@@patrickparson9628 That's not true at all. A healthy woman doesn't even have half of the testosterone of a healthy man.
Hell, even a woman with relatively high testosterone won't have as much as a man with lower levels of T.
Testosterone is produced in men by the testicles. Women produce testosterone, but NOWHERE NEAR at the levels that a man with semi-functional balls do.
If women had the same levels, they would have facial hair, bone density, and muscle mass at the same levels as men. They would also cease to menstruate and loss their fertility. Whereas high testosterone make men more fertile.
"I got it from my balls"
- Cris Cyborg
Scott Pratt boom!
Lol, NOICE.
Jahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah
LEGEND!!! LMFAO
🤣🤣💀🤣🤣
34 here and on TRT, 100 test cyp, once a week.
For years I’ve battled depression and anxiety. I hit the gym 5-6 times a week and ate a very clean diet but with test levels at 250…it just wasn’t enough.
Best decision I’ve ever made!
I’ve been able to quit my depression and anxiety drugs!
Today I was able to hit the gym hard, and took my kids out to the park to play the entire day! Finally feel like I can be the dad that my kids needs and a husband that is FULLY functional.
It’s a game changer! Get your levels tested!
I’m right around that same number, and 39. Literally talked to my doc today, seeing the other doc Tuesday. So excited, can’t wait!!! Looking forward to the energy and not being a maniac over the littlest thing lol
I'm 43. My total came back at 286. I workout (heavy kettlebell and BJJ) 4 to 5 days a week. Eat, sleep, stress management... I always feel like I'm playing catch up. I'm at the point where I either need to start a theraputic level of trt or reduce my activity.
@@TDR85 I think no matter what you do, your still gonna feel like shit imo. I’m at 252, regardless if I have enough sleep, working my ass off or sitting on the beach on holiday, I still feel lazy as hell. From everything I’ve seen or read, every dude has said the energy and mental clarity is really noticeable. Im absolutely going that route. I want that number at minimal at 1k, nothing below if possible.
@@patrickjames661 You're right. I'm not willing to give up parts of my life if I don't have to. Let's get it done!
@@patrickjames661 do you really think every man takes some miracle pills? You are online and you are listening to a small circle of influencers who in turn listen to each other. But majority of men live without it and feel fine. But what do I know
his voice is so deep most of the sound came from my subwoofer
LMAOO
Nah he is just optimus prime
Joey Diaz and Barry White must be related. Lmao.
Lmao this cracked me up 😂
Respect to Joey for calling Joe out on using steroids in a fitness competition.
That takes balls nice calls out
Joe has always been open about it tho. He's not claiming natural
@@octobeastX for sure I totally understand that... I think it is a fair point to bring up when talking about dominating your buddies in a fitness challenge though. I'm positive Bert and Ari and Tom know about the TRT ( and dont care) but it is fair to acknowledge the advantage it does provide.
@@Jack_all to be fair, Joe doesn't need it at ALL to beat the other guys.
Also, they are just as free as Joe to get their old man testosterone.
TRT just brings you up to normal, not Mr. Olympia level gear
Glad he’s so open about it, actually good to see
He’s open but in complete denial that taking that much Testosterone is somehow not unhealthy
Aardvark 52 I think he isn't taking too much, he's too much of a health freak to over do it. Joe's to type of nigga that takes his shit to a lab once a month to get it analyzed and milk his prostate regularly, for health reasons.
I mean its really not that great to see because most people are idiots without the resources he has and he is encouraging them to do things that can be hurtful.
Andrew he said only after you've exhausted all options, such as changing diet, exercising and with a supervision of a doctor. That's legit advice
jon doe not legit and joe is not that healthy man. Dude never went on one cleanse which is a big part about health. Joes shit probably stinks like rotten eggs
I'm doing TRT right now and I assure it's a night and day difference. I feel amazing and energized. I encourage all dudes to get there levels check
how do i get on trt?
@@NotoriousSoul Go get tested at your doctor or go to a specialist group like a men's health clinic
@Paul lee I'd like to know too
@Paul lee It's is if you use someone outside of your doctor. They have men's health clinics that charge way too much
Did you loose your hair?
Seriously joe looks good for his age and is in better shape then most 20 yr olds...trt in sports is unfair but if your in your 40s why not??
There's nothing wrong with it at all. But he can't brag about his fitness being better than everyone else's. But honestly he's human. I would brag about it to and everyone here who loves themselves enough would as well. LOL.
Grant Franchey , that what TRT do for you
Grant Franchey says the one that looks like a wet cigarette
fontagra He's not a cripple either so what's your point?
Just throwing this out there but more testosterone=more energy to do anything.
Don’t make that human cigarette laugh ever again
LOL
Hahahaha
Lmaooooo
Hunhhhhunhhhhuuuuurghh
gabriel hunt 🤣🤣🤣
I’m 25 and suffered with low T my whole life so I decided on TRT and my life is SOOO SOOO much better. I’m more happy I’m more confident it’s fuckin awesome.
This will probably become more mainstream in a few years. It looks like, stigma apart, that it could be something quite positive for many men hitting their 40-50s
Thats the age that I would only consider doing it (barring severe mental health issues).
I feel as if I should be able ti naturally keep my levels high/at normal rates in my 30s
Oh we suddenly have a huge spike in prostate cancer
I wish more celebs would admit to it. I'm convinced most older Hollywood guys are on something.
Obviously 😂😂
No shit bruv
@@dyemend how about the rock and Kevin hart
It’s their life, live and let live. It’s too scary a thing for me to even contemplate partaking
@@kleshayer3751 Rock is obviously taking high amounts the bodybuilders do while Kevin Hart is naturall but I bet he will be on it when he starts to decline he has good genes.
Ugh. This is eye opening. I have always been against steroids and PED’s but I’ve struggled with depression and ADHD for my whole life. I’m 55 and on meds. Maybe this is the route I need to take. Gonna check it out! Thanks Fellahs. 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
I just started this therapy. I was depressed, full of anxiety, lack of energy. I'm on my 4th week. I'm sleeping, almost no anxiety. I'm still waiting for the energy to pop. I did what Joe explained. I got off alcohol, sugar, limited my diet. I'm not going to lie. Alcohol was a struggle but I'm 3 weeks in no drinking.
How ya feeling?
well Ofcoarse if you quit all that there will be an improvement.
update please
@@commentscopyrightattorney5543 . Still sleeping well, no anxiety (got off of zolof). I'm limiting my alcohol intake and sugar as well. My energy is back but not teenager like stuff but get this ... my sex drive is through the roof!
@@thebammer4832 I'm almost hitting 30 and i have been tired af for the past 5yrs, I've been on several ssri's which never did spit and I did check my levels twice and the range was 220-230 within a gap of 7 months. I'm terribly anxious, moody, lack of initiative, no longer desire women. Tell me honestly do you think I should go for this?
Dudes laugh is selling me on the idea of QUITTING SMOKING
Do it. Did you yet?
@@B10401 hell no 😞
@@PawnshopmikeATL Plenty of people I sold to when I worked at a gas station sound like diaz. And they smell bad without knowing it. Plenty of people quit, so it's up to you
He had bronchitis as a kid he just smokes weed not cigarettes
@@liamsparlingdoes it even matter lol you're just smoking dried plant matter , it WILL make things worse
TRT has been a major life saver for me for years I dealt with depression and anxiety and not one anti depressant was able to help me get back to normal but TRT has been a lifesaver and it should be offered to more patients as long as they have been checked regularly and are not trying to abuse it…. People who have depression or anxiety don’t have to struggle anymore but still some Dr’s are not willing to take the opportunity and add to the quality of life and benefits to their patients.. this has to change!!!
Good cocaine does the same without destroying your body's own ability to produce testosterone... you're on drugs, my man
Without TRT I feel like crap
depression etc
With it I feel good simple as that!
Aging ain’t fun but I’m pro active lol
Been on 200mg a week for 3 months and still feeling no effects of the testosterone replacement therapy
@@shaun8353 wtf...no effect???...thats bizzare
Nirvana One Try feeling like that at the age of 18 fuck it i’m doing a Test cycle
@@shaun8353 watch your blood pressure, also your nuts will shrink, also your blood will thicken and your risk of heart attacks and strokes increase a lot.
@@estephany119 yep nothing
Today I learned joe is 51 what
1 year ago he was 50
Justin Lowry 2 years ago was 49
@NOBBERT Its the baldness.
azpelayo21 my dads a mechanic and looks about 5 or 6 years older than joe
@@justinlowry8123 2 years ago he was 49
If your not on TRT and you absolutely need it, I’m here to tell you, go see a doctor, get your levels tested. I’ve been on TRT for year and it’s the best life decision I ever made. I’m 36 and feel like I’m 18.
36 needing Trt wow that's young.
@@screamofitness
Lower testosterone in younger adults is becoming more common.
It's because the chemicals in plastic affect hormone levels. Obviously plastic is everywhere. Most food comes packaged in plastic. Medicines, vitamins, soaps, shampoos, etc.
Even if you actually avoid plastics you will still get them in your system.
Your good hormones will be lower than they should be.
TRT will raise those hormones to healthy levels.
I asked my doctor about TRT when I was about 32. The doctor says to wait until I was 40, and then insurance will cover it.
I'm 39 and looking forward to it next year.
@@JB-1138 wow it's hard for me to relate I am 33 and I do just about everything I can to manage stress, sleep enough eat healthy and take any vitamin or supplement that is Natural that i can take and i have been able to maintain good healthy Testosterone levels.
My levels came back at 393 and I’m 24 years old is that bad ?
Do you run AI or hcg?
“I get it from the creatine in my cocaine” - Jon ‘Proper 8 Ball’ Jones.
I'm poor so I guess I better get back to squatting
cory ddp $15-$20 per 200mg of test cyp on the street, once a week won’t break the bank, but the blood tests an co-pays add up, so if you wanna do it the right way it’s gonna add up.
Just get a doctor to hook you up and make your insurance pay for it
Jonathan James good luck finding a doc that doesn’t wanna make constant blood work a condition of the treatment
You can get 9 months supply of testosterone cyp for less than $100 from a pharmacy. On the street, it would cost less than half that. The growth hormone is really expensive, though.
5dd the price is per mg/ml, you can’t say “9 month supply” because everyone takes different amounts
TRT changed my life. I was 109 pounds at 33. I'm 35 and 161 and happy. Deca changed my life too. I wish I did it sooner. It was all because of a 2 min conversation with my doctor. We were talking about getting therapy to help me with life and in conversation I said "It's like the testosterone was beaten and screamed/yelled out of me when I was a child" .... Turns out there is something called "Cortisol" in my blood that kept me in survival mode.
That's a massive difference. Happy for you brother.
Joe Rogan gives his leftover TRT and HGH to Dana White and Matt Serra.
Dana only injects it in his head though
Fucking Hilarious.
Bald trt daddies rise up!!!
Powerlifter, weight lifter, 315lbs, 6'2". ED issues requested a testerone blood test. Blood test completed. Met doc(female). Asked doc what my T level was, was told that was unimportant but need to discuss what was found. I had a 7.6 A1c level diagnosed type 2 diabetic, high cholesterol, fatty liver disease, high blood pressure. I was depressed, lethargic, ED issues. Started popping crazy meds, weight didn't decrease, depression set in. Started regiment of TRT, 4 months in dropped A1c from 7.6 to 6.1. Doc asked what I was doing, said diet excercise. No mention of TRT. Blood tests are all positive, reversal of fatty liver, blood pressure normal numbers.
Crazy
*BOOM* My doc isn't going to prescribe that to me *lol* I've looked at different websites too. So much info and simply *NO ONE* will tell you what to take or what website. I find it all hilarious. Makes me think that no one is really even taking it because NO ONE will tell you what website and how much to take. ha!
I had my first TRT appointment last month and first blood test last week, and everything Joe is saying is true. The medical advisor kept asking me about sleep, weed and booze. He said don’t bother with TRT if I smoke weed because marijuana devastates Testosterone in men.
That’s so crazy bro..
I’m smoke weed occasionally so I didn’t think it would effect me but I smoked and tried to get some abs I couldn’t I’m like this defeats the purpose !!! 🤦🏿♂️
Who did you go to about using trt? Your regular dr?
Well we know that's bullshit cuz Joe Rogan smokes a shit ton of weed and so do other people on trt
Im calling bull shit on the marijuana. I smoked daily for almost 10 years and at the same time i had one of the best natural physics in my city.
Post trtvitor vs trt rogan
Bahahaha gold
Vitor still eats him for lunch
Trt Rogan would kick the shit out of trt vitor
Dipskow Lyle vitor would land a heel kick onto rogans dwarf ass and send him into oblivion. Wtf you talking about 😂
DMT VITOR heel kicks elves and punches holes in the space time continuum
Joe "I exercise and take test and I'm beating my friends who don't exercise in an exercise competition" Rogan.
Scoreboard lol
young boxing hey this is a little off topic, but I figured I’d ask. I’m assuming you’re from the uk based on how you talk and I have always wondered what rate means. Like “they don’t rate you”
It’s a heart rate competition though so technically he has to do way more exercise to get his heart rate up so it’s not like the competition is horribly unbalanced
@@rdn6933 But endurance allows you to keep your heart rate elevated for longer.
mihajlo525 good point for sure
I'm 41 and it makes me feel 20 again
I just started and I'm 41
@@hellohello-jj2lf Been on it for 10 years...I'm 48. Feel great, lean, retaining muscle, good libido.It's becoming normal for any active guy who cares about health/quality of life over 40. Guys openly talk about it at my gym. No shame... declining T with age is a fact of life, TRT solves that problem. Just keep up with regular bloodwork to make sure everything on point.
@@Thomas-fk3cw ok ty
@@Thomas-fk3cw Weak lol!
I feel 20 and I'm almost 40.
And I don't take TRT.
TRT is not all unicorns and rainbows.
Testosterone therapy has various risks, including:
1) Worsening sleep apnea - a potentially serious sleep disorder in which breathing repeatedly stops and starts.
2) Causing acne or other skin reactions.
3) Stimulating noncancerous growth of the prostate (benign prostatic hyperplasia) and growth of existing prostate cancer.
4) Enlarging breasts.
5) Limiting sperm production or causing testicles to shrink.
6) Stimulating too much red blood cell production, which contributes to the increased risk of forming a blood clot. A clot could break loose, travel through your bloodstream and lodge in your lungs, blocking blood flow (pulmonary embolism).
7) Hair loss
You need medical advice in order to be in it and also while on it
You have go get your blood work done pretty much every 90 days to 180 days and adjust has necessary plus you have to be a good candidate to be on TRT, when everything is fine it’s a no brainer… it is unicorns and rainbows
But I suggest on medical professional advice and monitor
What I noticed on trt is I’m happy and got so much confidence
To put this into further perspective the age gap between Joe Rogan and Joey Diaz is only 5 yrs... But its like Joe is talking to a friends dad in the vid
I"m 29 and my levels are in the lower end, im seriously tired af. I wanna try out the trt.
Well also to be fair, informed, consistent & honest.....Joey Diaz since he was an urban grade school kid was fkin his body up HARD. He was lookinglike a rough 65 till around 2005. Then he looked 81 with terminal illnesses for 15 years. It is what it is. He's been getting ALOT better for a couple years now so here's hoping he'll only continue on the path he's on especially now that he has a kid of his own.
Joey has hair tho lol
It’s called replament for a reason , trt brings you back to what a normal standard should be not at a insane steroid level. Dealing with unknown anxiety because of low T , trt has made my life 💯 better , in great shape and making more money than I ever have . I’m with Rogan!
most trt protocols put your free t substantially higher than natural lol, that’s why people do it
@@himboslice_ You can't get on it unless your levels are low at least from most doctors. I assumed people just did it because they had low Testosterone. People on TRT dont some to respond much better in the gym than guys with normal levels from what I have seen though. Now juice is a whole different story.
Funny how most men i know from 20 to 80 do not have your problems and anxiety
@@heuvelke1065 Thats great if that’s true but this is just your assumption unless you have bloodwork done on every Man you know or somehow know what’s going on with them internally.
Most men hide or ignore their weaknesses vs embrace them and find ways to overcome them.
All the best
@@himboslice_ most Drs. Don’t know what they are doing , they jump into it because of money so you get cookie cutter protocols. It’s important to do your research independently and consult with a good Dr that knows their stuff.
Shit sure helped me, for some reason my production got knocked out after Iraq. Was emotional and depressed, constantly felt like dogshit. Then I asked my doc to check my test levels and boom sure that was the problem. Doc started me on TRT and i've felt better ever since.
Sad you went through that shit in Iraq. Makes me wonder if war is ever going to become extinct, we need it.
@@intimpulliber7376 humans existing = war. There is no humans without war and violence.
@@intimpulliber7376 war is the most profitable business ever. It will never stop
As an iraqi I hope you are having a wonderful life now, its not nice being in the middle of a war, it really fucks you up.
How ya feeling now Shawn? Still more energy?
Joe is only 4 years younger than Joey Diaz .....
Babadee Beetchee WOW!! Joey Diaz needs to go get on HRT/TRT lol
Wow that’s insane. Joey D better look in the mirror and make some lifestyle changes or he’s not gonna be around much longer.
It’s not like he gives a fuck he’s been through hell he deserves to eat whatever he wants not like joe rogan can say the same
@Origin It doesnt work like that at all. I know people on TRT and they dont look any younger lol. Dont act like it's something its not. It's false advertising to people who don't know any better. People on cycle of steroids like far older than their age if anything, not that TRT does that, but it def doesnt make you look younger anyway. You might feel younger if your levels were low before though.
@@billj4525 You're also wrong bud, i know of many cases in which TRT combined with MANY other pre-requisites, parallele factors/variables, et al.....has 60s men in our respective socities look, feel & sorta be like if they're in their 40s now.
Women get hormone therapy in menopause so nothing wrong with older men get replenished
That's been shown to have serious side effects in women
@@BP-ke5qs and the effects of non therapy? Sweats depression , no libido ?
Joe " I'll hook you up with a doctor" rogan
Sounds shady
I actually suffered from depression for many years. I started counseling and she recommended me to get my levels checked. I was tested and my testosterone was low. I started shots and my depression went way
How long have you been on TRT?
How you feeling now
Joe needs to get vitor belfort on his podcast and they need to discuss this in details and then have a pie eating contest.
That criminal? No thanks.
The Universe grlants u in time wht u wish lol,.Nice mental painted picture alcott.
TRT can be a life-changing experience for sure! At our TRT telemedicine clinic, we have heard some amazing stories from our patients.
Evolve
I am 56 and i'm on testosterone replacement therapy.For those who think it is dangerous and unhealthy your clueless,Having low testosterone can have terrible health effects along with low testosterone is high estrogen which can and will cause a whole lot of issues.I go through a doctor and i get blood work every 6 to 10 weeks.
Just about to go on TRT due to effects from a pituitary tumour, can’t wait! Reading your comment is helpful, cheers pal 👍
No problem please tell me how you feel when you get on it.
Is TRT expensive?
Unfortunately my insurance didn't cover it so I had to go thru a very good clinic and I pay 340 every 10 weeks for my testosterone hcg and arimidex its not that bad.I was probably better off any because a reg doctor isn't to verse on trt most think being at 200 to 300 ngl is ok.These primary doctors are a joke.
Which doctor do you go through?
Just turned 50 and I started on testosterone about 9 months ago. Blood work showed levels were practically non-existent on my own and I was feeling it. Hard time waking up and getting through the days. I work out 5 days a week. It became a struggle to get up and go and there were no gains at that point. This has made a huge difference. I sleep better, feel better, have a more clear and positive outlook, and I have energy to get up and hit the gym and look better now than I did 5 years ago. I would absolutely recommend it to anyone over 40 for sure.
Once you start, don’t u have to stay on it?
Just got mine tested and mine was 78 I feel absolutely horrible all the time fall asleep every time I sit down started the cream 3 weeks ago I'm hoping to start feeling better soon
@@BAR-ct7ti of course you do! There is no way you can just cheat your way into something. It simply doesn’t work that way. For example street drugs make you feel great for a while and you can even lose ton of weight. But we all know what happens once you get into withdrawal phase
@@chriseaton7887 How are you now?? I'm 41 and tested at 188 in 2021 and last week tested at 88. Started on the gel this morning myself. I don't care about looks, I just want to feel better like I used to! I literally struggled to get through each day at work, then would go home & struggle to stay awake. Just felt sluggish all of the time, felt depressed, and just had such a bad outlook on everything.
I'm 56, and just got tested. Mine is down to 230. It's no wonder why I feel like shit. I can't wait to get my cream prescription. The doc also ordered desiccated thyroid as well.
Thanks for increasing the awareness to the bigger audience about TRT!
I think a lot of successful men have used testosterone and it’s a big reason they’re where they are. The rock is a good example. I think it not just helps the body but the mind, and helps with confidence. I’ve seen a lot of dudes on testosterone that seem to have a mental edge.
Yeah, but he's on a dangerous level of steroids at his size. What your saying is dangerous mentioning the Rock. When people cycle hormones at high doses like that it ruins them instead of improves them. I mean look at all the bodybuilders that have died recently, its nuts, and the stuff very obviously kills and a lot of the times at young age. I think in low doses like TRT their could be some truth to what you said, but The Rock is not a good example.
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Is someone dying? 🤔
Nah it was just a car backing out a gravel driveway.
Drs in Canada don't think twice about prescribing hormones to teenage girls to keep them from getting pregnant yet for a man to get TRT from your Dr is damn near impossible
There's a big difference in TRT and bodybuilder's TRT.
Is there? You don't know Joe's levels. His doctors will give him whatever he wants.
"We gotta get USADA on this one.."
I'm 53 6.0 and weigh 205 with 12% body fat and run 5 miles daily. That's the power of TRT
How many mgs/ week?
@@commentscopyrightattorney5543 i’d say 100 too 250mg a week sus 250, but if you wanna get jacked 500mg to 1ml a week of sus, but you gonna be fighting estrogen at that level
250 mg a week you should be fine withou side effects, and will give you a good amount of T in the body
Wait until your Heart will loose its power
@@redarmy1778 lol sustanon is not trt. Youre on a cycle lol. Huge difference between HRT and abusing low dose PEDs
@@aliabdelaziz7585 Also the misconception you need steroids to be jacked. Their are naturals more jacked than dudes on steroids all over the place, although its rare, but with good genes compared to a juicer with bad genes it happens all the time.
I used to cry everyday so emotionally. So at 36 I started test and I’m walking in sunshine ☀️
How’s is it 1 yr later?
Low T is more than just a quality of life issue. It can actually lead to increased risk of heart disease, stroke, osteoporosis, ED, and depression.
MS No it’s not
Haha, I love how that guy laughs! Makes me laugh myself!
Started TRT 3-4 months ago, and feel much better now. Still have a long way to go, but its going in the right direction. No more raving depression and steady fat gain, and total loss of energy and motivation.
My throat literally starts itching everytime I hear Joey's voice
You can’t tell me TRT barely helped you win sober October. There’s no way you could do 4 hour full body workouts every day and recover fine naturally.
He's on on TRT man, that barely bring his levels above natural men. It doesnt matter though because not even guys on tons and tons of juice can recover from that properly. Who said he was recovering? No one could recover from that. Ask guys on heavy juice and they will tell u the same thing. You have to keep in mind this was competition so natural or not you do what you have to do to win if you want to win badly. It depends what you do during the workouts too though.
I'm using accupuncture to raise my T levels. It works really well. I dont put the needles in my feet though. I put them in my glute or quad. And theyre attached to a syringe full of Test.
The stigma thing is real, I am on trt at the age of 29 and I felt bad or less man. Now that my levels are normal I am unstoppable, this message should be said more often.
I just started it today at 28 y/o, but I've been in the process of diagnosis for 3 years (NHS is slow).
I'm looking forward to seeing how it affects me, on 140mg per week.
How has it made things different for you? I’m just starting to hear about this
@@dueceslade I am having boners all day long, I can think faster (no mental fog), gym workouts are easier now. My confidence is boosted.
C'mon dude, 29? You still a young man. Shouldn't do that
@@tonyiommi2380 I am not on trt by decision... my test was low all the time, changed diet, did exercise... all the things but thry didnt go up.
I don't have problems with guys in their 50s taking TRT and being open about it. But I do have problems with celebs and athletes who say their 1 yr body transformations was due to eating only chicken breasts and working with a Trainer.
Testosterone replacement saved my life
Yup, it works, been on it for a year now 31y old.
@@titoli1 How does it feel compared to not taking it?
mike lee Less brain fog, more energy, more confidence, more muscle.
@@titoli1 Thanks for the quick response, I am turning 33 this yr and thinking about taking it.
@@krayziejerry I'm 31 and been doing it 2 months feel amazing
I started trt for 8 months and it’s been amazing. I feel like I’m in my 20s again. I’m 31
Do you have a social account I can ask you some questions on? I'm 30 and will get on T soon
@@guy.gamboa6359 no. I also like taking crystal meth at the same time to increase focus.
@@Vengeance888 Crystal Meth is kew, but I prefer Crystal Pepsi, nomsayin.
Anyone with depression at any age should always get bloodwork done first. Check test/hormones and vitamin levels and start with diet and exercise. Then after 3 months check again and add meds/testosterone if needed. Hormones save lives! 🍻
As a guy who took a headshot which wrecked his endocrine system, depo T has been needed by my body since high school. Thanks for the objective info for the masses.
That's what the trt does for me, it helps me be a healthy man so that way I keep my masculinity intact
I started 15 weeks ago. Feel great.
it's just the beginning my friend
I was not feeling great at start, had unstable levels and high e2. Now it's stable tho and its great
Are you using HCG or just testosterone
How you feel now?
We glossed right over the HGH 2:30
I went on TRT and my depression went away
He's not joking I went from the couch to playing sports again
Joe is absolutely right, I'm on TRT for the last 7 months and I feel so good, when I stopped it, I felt like 70-80 years old man, joint pain, constantly tired, zero energy, high blood pressure, zero sex drive. But before you start, do all tests first 👌
How old are you?
The trt lowered your blood pressure? What about cholesterol ?
@@krayziejerry I'm 42
@@krayziejerry my blood pressure went down on TRT ,my cholesterol is normal but it all depends what you eat , testosterone can increase bad cholesterol ,but I'm taking very low doses of test which is 0.3 (90mg of test) every 10 days
Brk please help I'm 27 and my total test came back at 390, my uncle which is 55 had 520 total test higher higher me and I sleep good no drugs work out 5 times a week
Just started TRT today. I'm 29 about to be 30 and my levels were 499. Not super low, but back about 5 years ago they were at 987. I was in amazing shape and could burn fat like no other. It's been taking me 3 days to recover from workouts when I used to go 2 on 1 off. Weight gain and sleepless nights. Hoping for the best! Only trying to get my levels back up to that 1000 mark.
update us in a month king
I'm on week 4, remind me here in a bit and I'll update. So far feel pretty good, higher energy and better mood. Most trt benefits take 3-12 months to really kick in.
@@theyodayouseek are there any long term side effects ??
What’s the update? Got me thinking of jumping on it
Dang I need to do see a doctor huh Im about to be 30
Yooo, props for Joey calling Joe out.
Testosterone: If you've never done it, you must. It is not extreme. It will not make you high or change your life. But it changes your mood, your confidence, your sex drive. You cannot know until you try it what that feels like, to never feel doubt.
I'm under 30 and my levels are 220 do you think i should go for it?
I gotta say TRT makes a huge difference!!
10 years on the sauce, I can't wait 20 more years and we juicing boys
I've been on TRT for over a year, and I'm 48. I'm under doctor supervision, and I can say it's made a _huge_ difference. Sex drive is up, I've lost weight and gained muscle without even working out. I feel much better overall, and the depression and anxiety that I've suffered from for years, has almost disappeared. If you're a man over 40, you should get your levels tested, I wish I had done it sooner. The benefits could, and probably will be life altering.
Any suggestions or recommendations? So overwhelmed with all the info online. I just want a simple solution.
@@sirgeoh hey brother... contact marek health or aspire rejuvenation
I've had anxiety and depression for years. My total T came back at 261. I'm hoping TRT helps.
I am 51 and just started my shots through my doctors office. It is already making a big difference in how I feel for the positive.
@@Theaddman Any suggestions on finding the right person to work with? Its so overwhelming with all the options
Starting testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is a lifelong commitment. If you have low testosterone, it is often due to being stuck in the sympathetic mode of your autonomic nervous system. This constant fight-or-flight state prepares your body to respond to threats, reducing the need for testosterone. To naturally boost your testosterone, it's essential to shift your nervous system into the parasympathetic mode, which allows your endocrine system to release healing hormones like testosterone. Breathwork is a powerful tool to achieve this reset. Join me on my channel and try this short, 5-minute daily breathwork exercise.
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As anti-aging technology grows the discussion of it for aging athletes is going to grow as well. The millennials may be the last generation to accept declining with age as a standard.
TRT is not really an anti-ageing therapy in any strict sense. Things like test levels and NAD+ levels decline with age for a reason.. most likely to avoid things like caner and over-stressing things like the cardio-vascular system. Having high range test all your life and in later years probably speeds up the ageing process.. even if it feels like it's doing the opposite for a while
@@lolcano2346 never thought of it that way and it makes alot of sense. I am 46 and thinking of taking TRT for increased energy. It may speed up aging but i believe if you diet, excercise and sleep well and just take good care of your body it could keep you younger with increased energy. Balance is key.
@@jpm408 Of course balance is key. Having low testosterone may result in age related issues progressing as well. Exactly how much for a given person is the question. People who seem to be higher in androgen levels seem to benefit in some ways but lose out in others
One over-arching theme that David Sinclair always comes back to is that performance and longevity are mutually exclusive things in biology. You optimize one at the expense of the other
Makes sense, in a general sense- performance equals ramped up cellular activity/replication (growth) and an increased metabolism where as longevity typically values a slower metabolism and an extended cell life cycle (slower rate of cell turn over in tissues). This is due to the fact that a cell can only divide so many times in a tissue before it becomes terminal
Perhaps this is why athletes appear to age badly and athletes jacked up on steroids seem to do even worse
David Sinclair on the other-hand looks very young for his age but he's obviously about as athletic as a wet noodle
His entire lifestyle is based around eating as little as possible and only pushing his body as far as is necessary to avoid a sedentary lifestyle being a problem
His 80 something year old dad is apparently fitter and stronger than him lol
@@jpm408 Oh and if you end up jumping on TRT, feel free to drop back in here and let me know how it's going haha I'm 29 and already feeling like I could use me a bit of TRT :)
@@jpm408 also worth considering that people have been reporting reversal of age related declines in hormone production with NMN. Many woman have claimed to have reversed their menopause entirely back into menstruation with the stuff. Of course this would be rather amazing if true
If there actually is something to these claims then it would seem reasonable to suppose that NMN could possibly do the same for andropause (age related decline in testosterone in males)
If true then perhaps this might give you a better option for addressing your test levels than TRT. At the very least you might not have to rely so heavily on TRT
I bring this up because TRT is a life time commitment once you're on it if I'm not mistaken.
Seems like fixing your bodys natural hormone production would be the way to go if it's actually a viable option
Seems like a good general rule full stop, fixing your bodies natural production of a thing is probably always going to be better than simply introducing that thing to the body artificially
Having said that, taking NMN seems no different to taking TRT in that regard haha Food for thought anyway
Hope it all goes well what ever you end up doing :)
I have been feeling so terrible lately. (Couple years now) finally got blood work done and my testosterone levels were 184. 😭 Stress has been killing me like a mfr. I’m 25yrs old. Might get onto trt. I use to workout, now I have no energy to do anything in life really.
Did u get on it? How’s is it ?
How do you feel now on TRT? Any updates?
I did trt twice for 6 ish months, it messed up my cholesterol levels and gave me heart problems. Being off of it, and still being physically active, I feel alot better. I had to raise my endurance and be smarter about my training, but now I feel great. It's not for everyone, but doing enough exercise regularly and eating a decent diet is all you really need. I recently did blood tests, and my natural test levels had increased from just being more active.
sounds like you didn't need it. Why did you start taking it to begin with ? To get jacked ?
@willg37 I was dealing with symptoms of fatigue, depression and the like. I got my test checked out and it was low, below average, I think 250. I got on it and it raised my t to about 550-600. But the side effects for me were bad after an while, and got off of it. I work a psychical job, so having energy after work was a bit of an issue. But, now I just push through it, make myself be active after work, and I enjoy it now.
@@fleshhammer656 We live in a society wherein most people have a fast food mentality. Most want it quick and instant.
Exercising consistently, eating very healthy and supplementing certain nutrients in a semi random, but semi consistent way, losing fat (but not too much), meditating and learning other ways to deal with stress and anger, and sleeping better consistently, will in combo help most men to naturally regain higher levels of T. (maybe also avoiding plastic use and some other things?).
But that is hard to do when you area already low T. I'm in my mid 40's and definitely feeling lower T. I don't want to go on TRT because it is expensive (especially if you don't have insurance), potentially health affecting in a negative sense (if you're not dosed right etc), and most importantly--if you're not taking other things, it shuts down your natural production.
I've decided to try kiss peptin for a little while to see if it helps. It avoids a lot of the potential negative side effects, and is much, much lower cost. I can buy 5 mg for around 50 dollars, and at my weight, that will last me almost 8 months (at twice a week injections, which I plan to start at, and increase to 3 if only needed). But I don't plan to take it that long anyways. I just want to try it for the next few months during the winter/early spring, as I tend to have higher T and feel better from mid spring to early fall period (some of that is likely greater sun exposure and being more active).
I could stand to lose 30lbs or so. I feel like once I lose that weight, while exercising more consistently and getting better sleep, a lot of lower T issues of lower energy/motivation will correct itself more naturally, and I won't need to be on anything long term. I really don't want to be dependent on something outside of myself. I have the diet part down already. I eat really healthy consistently. I have the stress management mostly down. Just need to work on the exercise and better sleep more.
I’ve been on trt for over a year, and yes it helps A LOT
AD what were you symptoms, lack of energy? Thanks
My testosterone was low 200s and now I’m over 900, I don’t workout, much I’ve kept most of the muscle size, and I have tons of energy, my sex drive is like I’m taking viagra every day. I feel overall really amazing compared to before. It’s somewhat harder to gain fat. I recommend it to those who want to feel like they’re 18 again.
OPIATES including methadone and suboxone can destroy test. Been clean 7 years and my levels are extremely low. Trt changed my life, got me off other meds and sober af.
If you’re under 30 enough sleep, sun, and red meat goes a longgggggg way
I've never understood why there is so much stigma around TRT. Why is it controversial for someone with low T to get therapeutic doses to get into the normal range without being labeled a cheater or a roid head? Either you take T or suffer from severe depression and mental/physical ailments or feel like a normal healthy man. I don't understand why it's banned in sports either if the levels are in the normal range. It's like telling someone with cerebral palsy they can't get corrective surgery or they're a cheater.
well put... and too much T over doing it causes problems too ive found of late.. i went too high on the dose
Get rid of the sugar, booze and cigarettes, eat better . Of course you going feel better lol 😂
It makes a huge difference. I was ridiculously sick. I lost 9 kilos over 2 weeks. My father in law saw me and I was told he cried half of the way home at how weak and sick I looked. Over the past 10 days I have been on the mend and using 120mg. Andriol testocaps daily, and the difference is astounding. I am still weak and thin compared to what I was pre sickness. However, I am looking more like the healthy me every day. I am 60.
How are you doing now, Chris?
@@ZenCenterUpaya Thanks for the concern. I am 100%. Only drag is I cannot augment my body with the testosterone. As I have returned to the US and we are not allowed to do what we want with our bodies. We have to get a doctor's prescription. Madness.. As I am fit, they say "no need." I wish all the best for you and yours.
@@chrisweidner4768 bro, just go to a different doctor or look for an online TRT clinic. It shouldnt be that hard to find someone who will prescribe it to you.
@@ZenCenterUpayaI’m 65 and doing great. Back in the USA and taking care of my dad. It’s disappointing because the VA won’t let me take anything. Saying my natural level is fine/ sigh. This is a frustration living in the USA. We don’t have access to things that are available globally to enhance the quality of life. Wishing you the best.
Joe's right it changed my life. 55 years feel young again . its a life deal for me.
But yet no one responded to you in two years, you could be dead now for all we know lol - Why is that NO ONE simply tells others what website to go too and how much to take? That's why I believe many of these comments are bull crap or Ai. lol
Joes right I'm 59 and sick of this ,muscle wasting , no sex drive going to try it but I know it's a process.
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Some disadvantages of taking external testosterone, that needs to be mentioned also:
1. Shuts off and possibly destroys the signal-function in the brain, that is used to control and adjust the test levels produced by the testicles naturally. Making you dependent on external testosterone...mostly a concearn if you don't have a medical reason(testosterone levels within normal ranges for your particular age and life style) , before jumping on trt.
2. You have to worry about always having access to testosteren for the rest of life. Situations like virus epidemics/nature catastrophies/wars and other un-planned events could make it very stressful to keep supplies incoming.
3. Aside from regular injections of test, you also have to get blodtests done in a planned periodic manner. Increased blood thickness/psa values etc. needs to get checked, when on testosterone.
4. Speeds up certain aging processes and organs... your body ages quicker with increased hormone levels....the dose will determine by how much. You can't have the best of everything! ;-)
Ya there’s cancer and heart risks as well. However it’s kind of pros and cons, if it improves quality of life and you monitor maybe it’s worth it. Get your sleep right, take vitamin d as if it were TRY religiously, lift weight, clean up diet, and learn to meditate from buddhists. Also your test (on average) is lowest at 35 and stays that way. That’s why 35 onwards most men slowly blobify.
The dose doenst matter that much is more about the length of the period you are on ur test cycle
#1 is why any good endocrinologist will not just do test monotherapy. Adding in HCG will keep natural production going
All this misinformation lmao
Im gonna need a source on #4
I've never been in any competitive sports, but always enjoyed nutrition, clean living, and keeping up on good nutrition. I am really focused and aware of hormone levels and balance. I'm gonna be 58 years old in April; many say I look 10 years younger. I can't really remember how great I felt when I was in my 20s, but sometimes, do to my lack of nutritional knowledge and overtraining at the time, I had some pretty low and unenergetic times. If I remember correctly, I actually feel better now than I did in my 20s. That could be owed to the fact that I am very health conscious and know a hell of a lot about nutrition and exercise. I'm not a huge guy, but look great for a person who only uses nutrition, sleep, stress management, and exercise with proper recuperation between work outs. I gauge my hormone levels on sex drive and morning wood.
Things that I have noticed in age: Sex drive can change drastically from week to week due to sleep and/or stress levels. When I was younger, it didn't matter. When I went through a devastating life issue, I lost all sex drive for two or three months; that would never happen if I was 20 yrs old. I have to eat properly to keep my sex drive up. Raw vegetables and "root" type plants are a requirement for higher hormones; not so at 20 yrs old.
I am a firm believer in keeping things natural. I have always maintained my physique. In the last 3 years I have been working out and trying to gain muscle. Although I have always gained very slowly, no matter what age, I am able to gain about 1 lb to 2lb per year lately which is added to lagging areas. I owe this to a very strict diet.
In short, I like to do what I can while I am able to do it naturally. When I stop being able to naturally enjoy the pleasures of sex, and I start feeling the effects of a low hormonal level, at that time I would definitely look at TRT. I feel that putting it off for as long as possible is the better way to go. I just feel that there is so much you can do with your lifestyle to keep your hormone levels high and balanced.
I fukng love these podcasts. You have some great guests that have awesome information.
Joey’s laugh sounds like a 1920’s Ford model T struggling incredibly hard to start.
FINALLY SOMEONE ADDRESSES THIS!
I had my testosterone levels taken 4 years ago and they were low.
I had them done yesterday at 60 years old and my testosterone levels are up 8 points and are at the top end of the mid range and I don't take steroids. 🏋️♂️💪🖕
John Smith do you take TRT?
@@indiansmokar No, my doctor says I don't need to. I have a healthy lifestyle though.
Hi John Smith, its John Smith 😂😂 Hope your doing good brother! From one legend to another legend, You the man 💪😎
@@Sm17hy1 👍🤜
Joey was a great salesperson for TRT. It's only been 5 years since this aired and TRT usage amongst so many "men" today is off the charts.
Jo is straight up telling the truth. I am not on TRT but have been in the past. And the amount of energy was astronomical, not to mention my body looked so much better.
Why did you stop trt then ?
@@angerisdiscipline3913 yes why did you stop?
How has Joey Diaz never gotten more villan voice acting?
this is why T levels are reflective in mood and weight
It's not all that matters, if it's in your system... Guys are thinking they're getting jacked and more manly when in reality these dummies are making themselves sterile. Falling right into the opposition's hands like slush . I saw this 17 year old at the gym today that was juiced, and I thought to myself why ?
Theres a world of difference between testosterone replacement therapy and enhancement. The dosage you take on replacement slightly impairs your fertility as a worst case scenario. You can even completely negate that side effect by using a small dosage of hgh, like 1-2 IUs daily. And yes, even with that rather low replacement dose, youre definatly getting more jacked. And more "manly". The mental effect alone makes a huge difference if you've been on the lower end of the spectrum or had a significant regress due to an accident or a trauma. And the physical effect is just as impressive. Youre still fuckin tired after your job, workout or whatever youre doing. But you can feel your body leaning up against it and counteracting the physical toll. What felt like delaying a loss previously starts to feel like its a game you can win.