It is impressive how you are able to work a day job, do these saw builds, film and publish them every week. We can really see your passion for the things you do in your videos. Nice work Tinman!
Spot-on Tinman ... more AIR = more TORQUE ... Some of the strongest saws I’ve ever run were flow-ported with stock squish and had no machine work, they also last long time. This is not to say machining/widening ports isn’t effective but it’s FAR from the only way to build a saw and can be overkill for an everyday worksaw
Wow, that really is a nice looking cylinder. Can't wait to hear it run. I could see a man making a lot of firewood with that saw, and loving every minute of it!!
I appreciate you explaining all of this to us in a way we can understand. Most people that I talk to about porting sound like lawyers, they start foaming at the mouth and I can’t grasp it. Sooo excited to hear this bad boy fire! Keep up the great work tinman! 🤙🏼
The intake opens and closes at the same degree as do all the other ports. The different readings are probably from the wheel not being perfectly centered or from it wobbling a tiny bit. Keep up the good work, always enjoy watching your videos.
Wooooohoooooooo yeah Tinman. So glad that Titanikel cylinder is cooperating with the porting. Great video on the timing wheel and numbers. Love it brother. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
I appreciate the guidance and words of encouragement… I have been incrementally grinding away at the cylinder on my old 372, just figuring out where I like it.
I would for sure appreciate some vids on a hot rod saw build with extreme numbers and tips and tricks and tweaks all over it! I want to see how a screamer would be taken to birth as much as I LOVE what that man is doing with this channel, takin me and other fellas to know and love these machines
Beautiful work Tinman! Late night in my shop, just got done waking up 2 mcculloch's from a 5 year slumber for a friend and his dad! Both a mac 3216 and a pm 610 put away dirty and with gas in them🤮 hope to tune tomorrow. Thanks again for all the time and effort you put into getting us great content!!
Thanks for some tips. Squeeze some more power out of my old 660. Had her long time 4 top ends. I have never done the transfers only port and polish intake
Hay Mr T great job on these vids i'm working on a 272 myself jus wondering is there any benifit cleaning up the port windows on the piston like removing casing lines or enlarging them
You inspired me to do a muffler mod on my Husqvarana 261. It had a very small front outlet, less than 3/8" with a small fish gill on the plate over it. It's a hollow can and there's a small side outlet, too. I opened up the front hole to just over 3/4" diameter and added another fish gill above the stock one. It gained about 700 rpm at full throttle and a higher idle before I adjusted the carb. It's definitely louder but has better throttle response.
I’m loving the shelves in the back with all the saws. I need something like that in my shed for mine. Granted I only have two at the moment but got to think about future saws I’ll buy😉Love your content 👍😎
Seth i remember when I first got a chainsaw. My buddy said yea thats ok for now but you will need another.. i was like really? I cant see it myself... Well now i have 16 or something. And i love them all!!!
Good job ol dog . Love the videos keep them rolling . I’d love to see you do a big homelite on the channel , what ever happened to that 925 or whatever you were building?
Once again awesome video. My 268se has the tillotson HS234B carb as well, I was wondering how it rated as far as volume out put. It would be a great video to see you modifying the muffler and the carb rebuild. So interested in this build cause I have a 268se and my dad has 268xp. Timing wheel is on order... Mahalo Tinman 🤙
First off, thanks for posting so many informative videos! I am mechanically inclined but very new to 2 cycle engines. QUESTION - Did you print your degree wheel or did you buy it? Where did you get it? I am intrigued by your explanation of 2 cycle theory… again, THANKS, Dan Ayo
Tinman. OK one Tinner to another (33 years) and a fellow porter (only do personal, family and a few close friends). I have heard there are a lot of issues with porting the Titanikel cylinders (from the usual forums and a few others that port) and that had me leaning towards the Nikasil cylinder on my current 288 build. How much of an issue is it to grind around on the Titanikels compared to the Nikasil cylinders? are you using diamond or stone to remove the Titanikel first before trying to bur out the rest to keep it from chipping away? Once I finish my 288 build I plan to start on my 372 thumper to see how I like it compared to my ported 372OE 50mm builds.
@@tinmanssaws Thanks, maybe I'll give the 288 a shot at one, heck it's only money right. I already have a nikasil for the thumper but I need to get another kit for it.
Tim man. Just bought another Hyway kit. This one’s for a Stihl 036 pro. What numbers would you recommend? Got the pop up going to do bearings and seals and a slight exhaust mod dual port. Looking to run a 24/25 inch 3/8 full comp in hard wood. Getting old trying to run a light weight saw. Did 4 huskies in the last month. Good stuff
@@trick76deep70 so I ended up at a squish of .021. Worked out with just a base gasket delete. I dropped my exhaust from 102 ATDC to 100. Exhaust Blow down was 130/30degrees Intake I dropped to 78 duration 156. I widened the lower transfers and directed the flow to the intake side. The uppers where level so I just tapered them to the intake. The exhaust port I widened to 65% of the piston Diameter. Rounded the edges to prevent rings from hanging. This saw was about a year ago I’d guess. Tree monkey has a video explaining exhaust port width using the piston diameter. Dyno Joe has mandrels that he sells that allow you to cut the squish band without a lathe (by hand). I have another P&C from meteor I’m going to replace the Hyway one with. This build turned out good. Without a dyno I can’t tell you for certain. I fell one load of white oak veneer running a 24/25 inch bar full comp semi chisel. The saw had no problems keeping up in the back cut. I’m 60 and try to run the lightest saw I can. My next build will be with meteor and I’ll deck the cylinder and cut the squish. I’ll try and stay close to those numbers. The shaping of the transfers toward the intake side helped. The widened exhaust port regained the slight bit of torque I lost by dropping the exhaust roof. It was a good compromise as I gained usable RPMs. Hope this helps you
Thank you for all that info!! I’m a few years behind you in age but definitely understand the appreciation for the lighter saws. The 60 cc saws are my preferred size. I have the 362, 034, 034 super and 036 pro. The 034 has the 036 meteor p&c and with a bgd I ended up with around 22 thousands squish. Saw runs really strong but I did have chipping of the plating when I ported it, so I used the diamond coated bits to minimize that. Did you have issues with the hyway cylinder playing? Funny you mentioned dyno joes mandrel, already have those with various sizes (worth the cost). Have you advanced the timing? Been wanting to try that but the saws run well the way they are IMO. I’m running a 20” sugihara lite bar currently which is perfect for the hardwood we have here.
@@trick76deep70 I did not advance the timing. I have been on 200 and 201TCs Also on that 036 I dual ported the exhaust and cut out the internal baffle and pulled the screen. There’s no piston pass (free porting so I’m not worried about it sucking in from the exhaust side. The new Hyway cylinders are platted in Japan. Ryan and Wolf creek saw shop said the ones he sells now are the improved Japanese ones. I have had problems with the plating on the older Hyway cylinders. The new ones the chamfering looks much better on. I’ve been trying to minimize the amount of moving port height by decking etc. tonsil shaping the intake seems to help. Also I’ve been scalloping the intake port. May be over kill but I really think it helps. I have pushed intake timing on the 60cc saws and for me intake beyond 80/160 total resulted in gas blowing back through the carb and really poor idling. I’ve been staying between 75-78 on intakes. Just did a MS880 it was running lean the intake stock was 70/140. The 75/150 intake fattened it up ( pulled the limiter tabs too). Went from 1/2 out on the high to 1 fill out so that’s substantial IMO
@@trick76deep70 the internal exhaust baffle on the MS880s is crazy restrictive. There’s 1HP right there. Cut it out and dual port it at 90% of the exhaust port area
It is impressive how you are able to work a day job, do these saw builds, film and publish them every week. We can really see your passion for the things you do in your videos. Nice work Tinman!
Thanks that means a lot you saying that. I really enjoy youtubing.
Well said!
@@tinmanssaws the man is right tinman you are good ae this gig
Spot-on Tinman ... more AIR = more TORQUE ... Some of the strongest saws I’ve ever run were flow-ported with stock squish and had no machine work, they also last long time. This is not to say machining/widening ports isn’t effective but it’s FAR from the only way to build a saw and can be overkill for an everyday worksaw
Wow, that really is a nice looking cylinder. Can't wait to hear it run. I could see a man making a lot of firewood with that saw, and loving every minute of it!!
I appreciate you explaining all of this to us in a way we can understand. Most people that I talk to about porting sound like lawyers, they start foaming at the mouth and I can’t grasp it. Sooo excited to hear this bad boy fire! Keep up the great work tinman! 🤙🏼
Great video! Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Been following your channel from the beginning! Almost ready to do my own teardown and port job.
The intake opens and closes at the same degree as do all the other ports. The different readings are probably from the wheel not being perfectly centered or from it wobbling a tiny bit. Keep up the good work, always enjoy watching your videos.
Hot dang, broski! I thought I heard somewhere that those titanickle cylinders couldn't be ground! Thats some outstanding work I see here!
Thanks alot for getting close up on the timing wheel. Great to have the same perspective helps to follow the system 👍
Wooooohoooooooo yeah Tinman. So glad that Titanikel cylinder is cooperating with the porting. Great video on the timing wheel and numbers. Love it brother. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
Yo Tazzy!!
I appreciate the guidance and words of encouragement… I have been incrementally grinding away at the cylinder on my old 372, just figuring out where I like it.
I would for sure appreciate some vids on a hot rod saw build with extreme numbers and tips and tricks and tweaks all over it!
I want to see how a screamer would be taken to birth as much as I LOVE what that man is doing with this channel, takin me and other fellas to know and love these machines
You are so inspiring!
I really like your way of thinking.
And my portwork is based om your videos 👍👍
Beautiful work Tinman! Late night in my shop, just got done waking up 2 mcculloch's from a 5 year slumber for a friend and his dad! Both a mac 3216 and a pm 610 put away dirty and with gas in them🤮 hope to tune tomorrow. Thanks again for all the time and effort you put into getting us great content!!
Morning buddy, old gas is the worst to deal with!! Good job
I like the work saw setup
This build rocks
Glad to see your channel growing. This build is awesome.
Keep up the good work tinman .Peace and love from Scotland
Man that is going to be wicked !!!! Great job as always :)
Thanks for some tips. Squeeze some more power out of my old 660. Had her long time 4 top ends. I have never done the transfers only port and polish intake
You make good power Tinman. I’d love to win that saw and use it in British Columbia
Hay Mr T great job on these vids i'm working on a 272 myself jus wondering is there any benifit cleaning up the port windows on the piston like removing casing lines or enlarging them
I've learned a ton from watching your videos. Got 056 super I wanna dig into. Great content man.
Really nice video can’t wait to see it running
You inspired me to do a muffler mod on my Husqvarana 261. It had a very small front outlet, less than 3/8" with a small fish gill on the plate over it. It's a hollow can and there's a small side outlet, too. I opened up the front hole to just over 3/4" diameter and added another fish gill above the stock one. It gained about 700 rpm at full throttle and a higher idle before I adjusted the carb. It's definitely louder but has better throttle response.
Does it run c00ler
@@cormacbailey775 I think it does.
Buddy nice work there. Can't wait to see whom gets this saw, its becoming a nice saw. Have a good one, and safe one too
Mornin Rodney
@@tinmanssaws good morning sir
I do like the way you present ever thing. 🤙🤔
Love your videos been watching long time but my first post thanks
I’m loving the shelves in the back with all the saws. I need something like that in my shed for mine. Granted I only have two at the moment but got to think about future saws I’ll buy😉Love your content 👍😎
Seth i remember when I first got a chainsaw. My buddy said yea thats ok for now but you will need another.. i was like really? I cant see it myself... Well now i have 16 or something. And i love them all!!!
@@5150powder lol that's awesome 😎
Nice job Tinman. Great content.
Yes! Wanting to see how you build for pull and torque also!
Nothing but big hardwood where I'm at in Pennsylvania
Good job ol dog . Love the videos keep them rolling . I’d love to see you do a big homelite on the channel , what ever happened to that 925 or whatever you were building?
Im starting that very soon.
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Isn’t 99 degrees open 162 total duration?
iv always wondered about dimpling inside of a flow chamber or tube. like a golf ball flies longer same concept as you were saying leave it rough.
Love the content of this kind of videos!!!!
woot! gonna be a real nice saw!
Thank you . getting cooler here also.
Got that same exact muffler for my 61 the other day and I felt it wasn't open enough !
Gonna be soooo smooooth
Once again awesome video. My 268se has the tillotson HS234B carb as well, I was wondering how it rated as far as volume out put. It would be a great video to see you modifying the muffler and the carb rebuild. So interested in this build cause I have a 268se and my dad has 268xp. Timing wheel is on order... Mahalo Tinman 🤙
First off, thanks for posting so many informative videos! I am mechanically inclined but very new to 2 cycle engines.
QUESTION -
Did you print your degree wheel or did you buy it? Where did you get it?
I am intrigued by your explanation of 2 cycle theory…
again, THANKS,
Dan Ayo
Ive printed them and bought them. Any aito parts store usually carrys timing wheels.
I love your work i would love to see one of your saws i denmark.. Iam just starting to port saws i made My johnesered 2050 pull an 18 in. Like a train
Yes u can port it.... no problem👍👍
Tinman love u buddy, I'm missing our whole saw community, it's missing a sharp tooth in its chain here lately(saw community that is)
Looking good. 👍
Polished Xfer ports wi cause the fuel air mix tae condensate and ye wi lose ye fine atomized fuel. Ideally a bead blasted xfer port wi be best.
It’s gonna be a hoss! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Tinman. OK one Tinner to another (33 years) and a fellow porter (only do personal, family and a few close friends). I have heard there are a lot of issues with porting the Titanikel cylinders (from the usual forums and a few others that port) and that had me leaning towards the Nikasil cylinder on my current 288 build. How much of an issue is it to grind around on the Titanikels compared to the Nikasil cylinders? are you using diamond or stone to remove the Titanikel first before trying to bur out the rest to keep it from chipping away?
Once I finish my 288 build I plan to start on my 372 thumper to see how I like it compared to my ported 372OE 50mm builds.
I've ported several of these cylinders now. They grind fine for me.
@@tinmanssaws Thanks, maybe I'll give the 288 a shot at one, heck it's only money right. I already have a nikasil for the thumper but I need to get another kit for it.
Love your honesty man. Did you get Buckin's 850 done? Feel like I missed something.
Did you encounter any difficulties with the cylinder coating? I hear horror stories of chipping and flaking.
Hey bud, do you know if everything is ok with Harvey?
Great info!
🤝🤝🤝
Thanks for sharing 🤘😎 . Just was curious tinman what is your take on case volume? Does it make any difference
You ever mod a 350 to 346 TM?, what were your findings?.
Never done one of those. I dont do much with sub 60cc saws.
Tim man. Just bought another Hyway kit. This one’s for a Stihl 036 pro. What numbers would you recommend? Got the pop up going to do bearings and seals and a slight exhaust mod dual port. Looking to run a 24/25 inch 3/8 full comp in hard wood. Getting old trying to run a light weight saw. Did 4 huskies in the last month. Good stuff
How did it work for you? Doing the same saw right now.
@@trick76deep70 so I ended up at a squish of .021. Worked out with just a base gasket delete.
I dropped my exhaust from 102 ATDC to 100.
Exhaust Blow down was 130/30degrees
Intake I dropped to 78 duration 156.
I widened the lower transfers and directed the flow to the intake side. The uppers where level so I just tapered them to the intake.
The exhaust port I widened to 65% of the piston Diameter. Rounded the edges to prevent rings from hanging.
This saw was about a year ago I’d guess. Tree monkey has a video explaining exhaust port width using the piston diameter.
Dyno Joe has mandrels that he sells that allow you to cut the squish band without a lathe (by hand). I have another P&C from meteor I’m going to replace the Hyway one with. This build turned out good. Without a dyno I can’t tell you for certain. I fell one load of white oak veneer running a 24/25 inch bar full comp semi chisel. The saw had no problems keeping up in the back cut.
I’m 60 and try to run the lightest saw I can. My next build will be with meteor and I’ll deck the cylinder and cut the squish. I’ll try and stay close to those numbers. The shaping of the transfers toward the intake side helped. The widened exhaust port regained the slight bit of torque I lost by dropping the exhaust roof. It was a good compromise as I gained usable RPMs. Hope this helps you
Thank you for all that info!! I’m a few years behind you in age but definitely understand the appreciation for the lighter saws. The 60 cc saws are my preferred size. I have the 362, 034, 034 super and 036 pro. The 034 has the 036 meteor p&c and with a bgd I ended up with around 22 thousands squish. Saw runs really strong but I did have chipping of the plating when I ported it, so I used the diamond coated bits to minimize that. Did you have issues with the hyway cylinder playing?
Funny you mentioned dyno joes mandrel, already have those with various sizes (worth the cost).
Have you advanced the timing? Been wanting to try that but the saws run well the way they are IMO. I’m running a 20” sugihara lite bar currently which is perfect for the hardwood we have here.
@@trick76deep70 I did not advance the timing. I have been on 200 and 201TCs
Also on that 036 I dual ported the exhaust and cut out the internal baffle and pulled the screen. There’s no piston pass (free porting so I’m not worried about it sucking in from the exhaust side.
The new Hyway cylinders are platted in Japan. Ryan and Wolf creek saw shop said the ones he sells now are the improved Japanese ones. I have had problems with the plating on the older Hyway cylinders. The new ones the chamfering looks much better on. I’ve been trying to minimize the amount of moving port height by decking etc. tonsil shaping the intake seems to help. Also I’ve been scalloping the intake port. May be over kill but I really think it helps.
I have pushed intake timing on the 60cc saws and for me intake beyond 80/160 total resulted in gas blowing back through the carb and really poor idling. I’ve been staying between 75-78 on intakes. Just did a MS880 it was running lean the intake stock was 70/140. The 75/150 intake fattened it up ( pulled the limiter tabs too). Went from 1/2 out on the high to 1 fill out so that’s substantial IMO
@@trick76deep70 the internal exhaust baffle on the MS880s is crazy restrictive. There’s 1HP right there. Cut it out and dual port it at 90% of the exhaust port area
You know tinman I completely freak when my guns look like that. The paper towels half to be clean.
Was any correction made from the 68 we all saw and the 72 that was wrote down?
Funny you talk abt doing stuff message questions abt. On one your builds can you show us your set up work on the lathe.
Tinman I think Donny walker fixed one that did that
I wouldn't cut those cylinders at all ,,those no way your gonna be able to champer the port so they won't ring snag or chip the plating
That cylinder may not be ruined
Our is parallax error
With a short blowdown, would you rather have a longer intake duration or a shorter intake duration?
Im going to go medium duration on this one
@@tinmanssaws sounds good. I'll experiment on mine a little🙂
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It’s at 68... not 72??? Check it out again..,
Is a 272 72cc's?
Yep 72cc
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