Servicing A Postwar Lionel F3! A 2363 F3!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Here we are going through the steps I normally go through in brining an old Postwar Lionel engine back to life. The engine we are working on is a 2363 IL Central. We take a look at cleaning and servicing the motors, E unit, and trucks.
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Just a terrific tutorial for dummies like me.....many thanks and Merry Christmas Ron
This video help get my dad’s old Erie also running again! The eraser trick works!
You are like a grown-up with that Lionel kid can-do attitude!
Awesome video. I have a 2367 wabash I’m planning on restoring soon! This video will help.
Thanks Coby!! Can’t say enough good things about the paint from Hennings! Really pleased with it.
looking forward to getting ahold of my dads train, will use this information to clean and refresh the components. Thank you.
I agree you can't be afraid and yes some parts will get broken and even lost sometimes but that is how you learn to do it and get better at it
Very helpful!
Loved the vid! You have a wonderful voice. You sound like Micheal Smerconish from CNN! Keep enjoying those Lionels!
I like your video and some knowledge as well. I just replaced wiring on my 8305 Milwaukee road. And works like a bad kid in a candy store
You have a really logical, but friendly manner of presentation. Easy to follow and not demeaning to new comers to the hobby.
Thank you Brian! Great to hear. Glad you are enjoying the videos! Happy railroading
Excellent video!! You take your time and show everything step by step and it makes it alot easier for beginners.. Very nice job Zak Thank you!!
Thanks Eric!!
I know this is an old video but I just wanted to say that I agree with what you said about just jump in and figure it out. If one has any mechanical knowledge these things are pretty much a breeze for the most part to work on.
Back when I started working on them there was no internet, manuals were terribly expensive, and a pocket camera with capabilities to communicate with other people was unheard of! It is so much easier now then it was then to find information and parts then it ever was, especially for someone like me who lives in an area that there are no hobby shops or train shows for hundreds of miles.
I was told by a renowned restorer that good old 30 weight oil was what he uses and that’s pretty much what Lionel used back in the day so anything else is pretty much overkill.
Anyway the only thing I could add to your video is in my opinion as a paint and body man by trade, Armor All, furniture polish, anything with silicone has absolutely no business on paint. Use waxes or polishes instead and really and truly from where most of these things don’t get handled all that often, once a lifetime of application is really enough unless you store them outside lol.
Zach Victor from New Jersey you're absolutely right when the lube looks good leave it alone I agree LOL
A tap of break free spray will turn old concrete hard grease back into nice grease instantly. I have to do that to old pinball machines that are frozen solid.
Great devotion to the hobby, it's heartening to see the care you give these beauties, really interesting to see,
all the best.Terry.
Thank you Terry!! Appreciate it! Stay safe and well. Happy railroading!
Just picked up a junk 2020 that someone else tried to repair, and oh boy did they do a number on it. I'm in the process of re-winding all of the coils on the motor, as the field coil was loosened by the prior owner and was turned to copper spaghetti. E-Unit is totaled, no point in trying to fix it, so I'm replacing it with a quick circuit that replaces both the E-Unit and the bell/whistle signal detector. I'm using the spare parts and some aluminum casting magic to make an O-27 compatible semiscale Southern Pacific 4449.
Sounds like a fun project! Always gotta love someone else’s handy work! A few of them have amazed me that they were able to still run after taking the shells off and seeing what’s been done to them.
Really enjoying your channel
Thank you William! Great to hear!
Joe don’t be nervous it’s easy to do. Lol. Zach those 2363 are beautiful!!!! I’ve heard them refer to the horizontal engines as growlers they have a distinctive sound to them them. I find more satisfaction pulling the horizontals apart. Soldering is a science just take your time once again Zack awesome video.
Thank you! I too enjoy working on the horizontal motors a little more than the verticals as well. They seem to be a tiny bit easier. Plus they used screws for everything (including the trucks). Not a big fan of the press fit pieces without screws on these units.
Thanks Zack - very informative and really useful video. Will be having a look inside one of my 'oldies' now - and following your tips.
Thanks Zack for the refresher on keeping the units in tip top running condition, very good commentary & tips to know. Looking forward for your next vid, I’ve been playing catch up on the older ones. Stay safe Zack. 😎👍👍👍🛤🚂
Thanks Jeff!! Glad you are enjoying the videos! Stay safe as well! Take care.
THANKS SO MUCH!!! I think I'm ready to try. Have never soldered anything, but my son has. I will let you know how it goes!! STAY SAFE AND WELL!!!
No problem Joe! Hope this helps! Wish you luck! The soldering isn’t too hard. Doesn’t have to be perfect! As long as it’s a nice solid connection you should be good. I look forward to hearing how it went!
Great walkthrough of the Lionel Pullmor motor. Nice to see general maintenance on your channel.
Great tips on servicing. Especially like the one on putting the shell away from the work area and washing your hands before reinstalling. I had a similar problem just cleaning the wheels on rolling stock. You need to keep your hands clean or the body will get ruined. I have watched several of you videos but now I have to subscribe. I didn't find any faults in your repairs.
Thanks Nathan! Yea I’ve made that mistake as well! With rolling stock too! It’s easy to forget, and next thing you know, DOH! Glad you are enjoying the videos! Happy railroading
Good video. You may do this. I take a brass wire wheel to the pickup rollers and wheels. Works great removing and cleaning. Also lightly lube axles.
Q-tips are great for cleaning crud out of brush holders. I use a bit of denatured alcohol. Great tip on keeping shell away from work area! Denatured alcohol will kill a shells finish.
I was lucky and had a friend show me how to maintain/repair these marvels of engineering.
Brass wheel and dremel.
Hi Zack, great video it will help me get my postwar 2353 Santa Fe engine moving again. Around Christmas I took it apart found the wheels were very hard to turn. Cleaned the wheels off with alcohol and q - tip oiled the wheels and gears. It ran for a while and then locked up. I guess I need to clean the motor and put some oil in it. But I think it might be the old grease in the gear box. Thank you for all your information because I will take it apart again and hopefully this time with success. Love all your videos and appreciate all that you do for the model train hobby. Wish I knew how to do TH-cam so I can show my layout being built. It’s 28 x 4 and goes into 16x 13.3 then another 35 ft plus the other side is 38 ft x 8 ft. I’m 71 and trying my best to get it all done. My locomotive’s are all Lionel and rolling stock. I had a layout at my Dad’s house it was a lot smaller. He pasted away the layout came apart and now I’m building a new Hi Rail set up in memory of my Dad. He also worked for the Lackawanna Railroad, Erie Lackawanna, Conrail , and last NJ Transit when he retired. Also most of my family worked for the Railroad also. It’s hard here in NC because there is no model train store’s except Lionel’s retail Store in Concord NC it’s the closest. Happy Railroading .
A very informative video presentation. I think beginners would benefit a great deal from the video.
Thanks Glenn!
AND MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄ZACK . DID YOU GET A NEW ENGINE FROM SANTA ? LOL . PO
Great video Zach. Honestly, you have a interesting channel. I love it. Amazing work. Thanks, Al
Thank you Al!! Great to hear! I try to keep it somewhat interesting. Great to see many others interested in the same stuff. Take care
Another great video, thank so much!
Thanks Chris!
Another awesome video my man! i added it to my playlist of awesome train videos on my channel for other people to see.
Thank you!! I appreciate it!
Da Bunk! Nice engine chief.
I was having similar problems with my grandpa’s Lackawanna FM Trainmaster that i inherited after he passed. I took it all apart and found a few solder joints broken and it overall just needed a good cleaning and she was back in business. The main thing like you said is maintenance. If you maintain those engines, or any engine for that matter, they can run for an extremely long time.
Heya imma new subscriber and i wanted to say how friendly you are in your videos. You layout looks absolutely amazing. Keep up the amazing content!
Thanks for your your videos and sharing your talents and train , that's how we learn by doing , some time l will walk a way , and come back later , keep it fun , l like lemon pledge for the shells 😎 Doug 🚂🚂🚂
Absolutely! Gotta learn to crawl before we can walk. I’ve had to walk away from a couple, and visit them at a later time. But it’s always a blast working on em. I’ve heard of the lemon pledge before elsewhere too! May have to look into it. I do really like this turtle wax stuff, but it’s become a pain to find lately. Always good to have a back up in your arsenal. Take care
Hey, got my oil and lube the other day. Been going crazy the last few days. So I haven't tried to service.... BUT not crazy enough not to buy a MTH 20-3047-1 NIAGRA.....HOLY COW an engine I've always wanted!!!! Hope all is well! STAY SAFE AND WELL!!!
Congrats on the Niagra!! Was just looking at one the other day as well! I’ve got my sights on 2 engines at the moment. Just need to pick one! LOL Take care
@@CountryBunkersTrains Looking forward to finding out which one you choose.......Probably BOTH :):):)
I have a NYC . 2354 . The motor bad on it & the gear are eating up .& Grind up again on a new gears on both of them & I need two new motor Buford Ga. Sold me a lemon 🍋 What is model motor number that you got on 2363 .That look like would fit my NYC . Help .!!
What is the model number on this motor .
Awesome Video! I want to post one of these as well with Pre / Post. I did just post my layout update 1 :) , Hope all is well!
Thank you! I’ll have to take a peek at your video!
@@CountryBunkersTrains thanks so much! I recently inherited a large quantity of trains and the unboxing will be posted soon
Hey Zach, great video, just wished you had covered horn problems.
Thanks John! Unfortunately I am no expert on the horns (not that I am an expert on any of it)... Have quite a few that need to be fixed. Never get lucky with them.
That is ok. I paid a guy here in San Antonio $90 to fix my the horn on my FM grey body and roof Lackawana and it worked about 5 times and quit. Parts are very hard to find and expensive to repair horns on those old diesels.
Always love Postwar f 3's. They are all awesome. Do you have any FM Units? I'm currently looking at a 2331 Blue & Yellow FM. If it all comes together, I might be able to swing this deal. And you are right Zack. Once you start collection Postwar it gets into the blood. My story is simple. My dad left me a 2343 ABA (with the passenger cars) along with a 622 and plenty of 6464 box cars. Then years later, my Aunt gave me a 2243, AB and assorted rolling stock . I still have them all. About 5 years ago my oldest son came running up the stairs with my 2343 in his hands., Apparently, he found my stash! He asked me if we could see if it runs. I agreed. I set the track up. Too my surprise, it did run. Not very well, but it ran. I found a Lionel Service Center in my area. I brought the 2343 to : LeBlanc Train & Hobby Center. He fixed my engine for a great price. Then, I gave him all my 2500 series Passenger cars for servicing. He has tons of original parts. Name plates, doors, wires, rollers, etc.. He fixed it all. Ever since that day, I'm hooked. Every chance I get I increase my Postwar collection. Great to see you highlighting these beauties on your channel. Keep up the good work.
Thanks,
Charlie
Great to hear Charlie! That’s an awesome story. Hope your son is still enjoying them with you! A Virginian FM would be awesome! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you! I have a Lackawanna FM without the maroon roof, a pretty standard one. It is a great runner though! Thank you for watching!
Nice layout what size is your layout
Thank you! The “main” layout is 8x8 with a 1x4 extension in the back and a 4x5 “L” extension on the front. The “2nd” layout is 4x19 long with a 4x7 “L” on the side.
@@CountryBunkersTrains thankyou
Does your f3 motors have trouble pulling weight? I just cleaned mine and my f3 still can barely pull a few cars
Only time I’ve really had them “struggle” is when one motor isn’t working, and one truck/wheel set is trying to do all the work. Have noticed a couple surging while traveling the tracks due to dirty e unit contacts or fingers. Might be a cause?
@@CountryBunkersTrains hmm, I’m not sure why mine has so much trouble
Do you still have the 2020? Would you sell it?
Guess not....
Hey Buddy
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