These 6 Awful Hiring Practices To End, ASAP!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- These 6 Awful Hiring Practices To End, as soon as possible. If you've looked for a job recently, you've probably encountered some of these aggravating hiring practices. They do not consider the candidate's experience and are a waste of time for everyone. What's on your list?
0:00 - intro
1:18 - fake jobs
3:24 - Behavior-based interview questions
4:37 - Job application Assessments
5:49 - One-way interviews
6:50 - Interview assignments
8:47 - Ghosting
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Company HR/execs: Why can't we attain and retain quality employees?
Almost every employee: Stop treating us like shit!
And the others : You still don't know? Well, that's why...
Turns out if you ask them, they might tell you if they trust you!!!!!
Definitely agree.
"STOP THE F***ERY!" needs to become a meme.
@cjanquart because we are simply a number and not a person. The moment you set a foot wrong, they fire you. No loyalty from them so they can't expect loyalty from us.
They're not out of touch. They simply don't care.
THIS.
giving an assignment on a real problem should be illegal. A company is just getting free labor at that point.
I have a friend who is a talented graphic designer. I've warned her of employers who want her to do an assignment for them. Her portfolio should suffice.
That's a tough one. I absolutely agree, it's stealing. Of course the challenge is proving that's what they did and then what they owe you. Unfortunately, labor laws are stacked against you in these cases. I use technical interview questions because of the nature of work. Each takes a couple minutes, they are part of the interview, the are hypothetical or based on a past issue, not a current issue we are trying to solve. A well formed question should tell you what you need without being long and complicated.
@@willj1598 It is absolutely fine, if they offer a reasonable payment for it. Which the black-sheep of course won't. So always respond with a polite price quote.
Tesla did that to me!
@@juliekostas7322 That sounds right, he's a crackpot. He wants everyone to work as hard as him but no interest in sharing his paycheck
I once interviewed with a popular online therapy company. On the initial phone call, the recruiter told me that all candidates had to complete an assessment. The assessment is average 10 hours. I was very straight-forward with him and said that was a very big ask of someone to give 10 hours of their time to an interview, especially when there is no guarantee of getting the job. I told him I was not going to do that, and thank you for your time. Probably the most insane thing I've encountered in an interview.
Good for you. It's not worth it and you would have been ghosted.
Had this happen too. Was told the assessment would happen over the course of at least a week. I asked if it would be paid -- the recruiter laughed (literally) and said no (naturally). I said "thank you and please withdraw my application. Good day."
@@KythForsa That is exactly what you should do. If you are a pro, you should expect to be payed for investing hours on a project. Just say "no problem, my hourly rate is $200, I'll gladly do it". But of course one is too perplexed the first time to have such a snappy reply prepared. 😁
I wouldn't even spend 10 minutes on some BS assessment 😅
Sounds ds like they wanted free labor
I get ghosted so often that I'm starting to think the twist is that I'm a ghost.
😂😂😂😂😂
Like in that movie Ghost Dad
Same! 💯😅
I read dead people😂
Same
I hate when they already have the candidate selected in advanced. Usually a friend or the bosses' friend, yet they go thru the process of interviewing lots of people with the attached cost just to comply with company policies.
Nah, it's just to cover their arses from potential government fines.
Yup. I was passed over for a job. I was better qualified and a female in a male dominated field. They wanted to hire the guy. Three months after the interview they added a training class that was mandatory that was not available. The guy had taken it already. You can’t make this stuff up.
This also happens a lot when there are internal candidates, and they are required to post the job opening. You go into the interview not knowing you have no chance against the internal candidate and basically you are interviewing just for the sake of interviewing.
@@StevenWagner-lq2cy agreed. In fact I have been asked to interview internally so that it satisfies the box check - even though I don’t want that job
At my former workplace jobs that would be filled by internal candidates would only be visible to people already employed by the company through an expanded job listing page that was only available to those logged in to the company system. Why can't other companies follow that model?
If i am required to do anything like answering personal questions or any kind of personality tests then i dont want that position.
Interview Assignments are basically a scam where the company wants you to do a job for free for them.
I was asked to take a personality test that asked questions about things I would only discuss with a therapist.
Yeah I'm a teacher and I wouldn't ever accept an interview that asked me to do a demo lesson. Would you ask a surgeon to do a demo operation? I did my demo lessons in my training, and I have the certificate to prove it. Employers seem to forget that probation exists. Hire me, then observe a lesson in the first month. Don't like what you see, I'll leave. I had a friend who had to do a demo lesson (first job) to a bunch of adults pretending to be kids. Sounded excruciating.
I refuse to do these assessment tests. They are aggravating and a waste of time.
Another pet peeve is when they ask for you to list EACH job and then download your resume 🤦♀️
Yeah anytime I get hit with that, I don't even bother.
The issue with the listing of jobs then downloading resume is a real problem because there's this web service (forget what it's called) that's ubiquitously used by companies for application processes and there is an option when setting up the application process to require users to "list their job history" and most employers toggle that option ON while also leaving the default of requesting their resume to be attached...
So in short, that issue is EVERYWHERE
Listing out all my past jobs on an online application? When they say you must fill in all that by hand, and not to write "see resume"-- guess what I do!
I replied to this in another thread. Serious, send them an invoice with a 2 hours min of what you bill. Then say, where is the link. I will commence after payment.
The interview question that has always irritated me is the classic "where do you see yourself in 5 years"? My response subconsciously "F**k if I know
That one is not unfair, if it is a permanent position at entry level. They want to know what your ambitions are and see if it matches the reasonable possibilities. Under the right circumstances I would see this as a positive sign even.
Hopefully still alive.
"In your position when you get promoted to [insert higher title here]".
Had one employer laugh at me when I said that, so I fired back, "If you're just looking for automatons to perform one monotonous task, that's fine...just say so. I didn't spend time in high school and college to be a cog in a machine. I don't have the qualification to be a CEO or CFO but I know that I can perform [name of open position here]."
They didn't like it, so we thanked each other for our time.
That’s a catch 22. Say you want to move up in your career, they gonna think you are a job hopper and not committed to the role. Say you want to stay in a contributor role like this one, they gonna think you lack motivation in your career.
"Sitting on the other side of this desk asking somebody the same question"
It isn't just awful and morally questionable that companies do a lot of these things, it's incredibly short-sighted. When they actually need candidates, they've already burned a bunch of really good ones. If they get a bad reputation and don't get good applications as a result, someone in HR or the C-Suite will inevitably cry that "pEoplE JuSt dON't wAnT tO wOrK ANymoRe!"
"We want to work. We just don't want to work for YOU!"
It's not just fake jobs, it's FRAUDULENT jobs! I have been through this a number of times now, the latest of which was advertised as a Receptionist & Office Assistant. It turned out to be a Dispatcher / Scheduler, which would truly have paid at least $5+ per hour more. MANY jobs like this!
Adding to this: Entry level jobs having more than 3 rounds of interviews
I'd almost say any job. 3 rounds is more than sufficient even for a CEO position - how many more people are there to decide on it, which could not fit in the first 3 rounds? You just cannot expect a person in good standing with his current employer to take a full week holiday spread out over 4 or more days just for the interview process. This turns into a sucker test at some point.
Yes, I saw that often in the 2000s. Any hourly rate job or any non mgr, salary job should not have more than 2 in person interviews. I had 1 security, hotels vacation site have 6, six job interviews. For a hourly post.
Walmart.
If you have an in person interview, then out of courtesy, the company owes you at least a rejection call. I can understand if you just submit an application they don't respond or even just send an email. However when you take the time to go to an interview, they owe you the respect.
Uline did that with me. I had an in person interview for a warehouse janitor position and I got a email, a few days later, stating they hired a former high school janitor as he had more experience. I appreciated that.
Im not sure about the call. I got a call once and it was just bull. It put me on the spot to react about a rejection essentially. What the HM said was very cruel and did not acknowledge the time I put into the month-long interview process. I would have preferred a carefully worded email or a more tactful call from HR.
Im 40. Honestly I don't even have a desire to improve anymore. This bs has gone way too far. If some fresh college grad thinks "They can make it" Though 5+ rounds of interviews for slightly above min wage, be my guest. I'm fucking done.
Just about 41 here. I hear you. This whole video just makes me really hope I stay with my current company until retirement.
I agree! I am 42 and age discrimination tends to begin at the age of 40. Better off starting your own business. That is what I will be doing.
@@TheIntelligent1 I hope you get it going, man. Im not really the type for starting a business. Its a huge investment and the only thing I REALLY know is retro video games. Haha An extremely niche market and I don't think my profits would match my rent on the store and home. lol
@@CT-yc4gd It will happen soon enough.
Everyone in their 40's has realized what a scam working for companies is and will always be. We care more about stability and spending time with our families than trying to make someone else rich. Hopefully you've saved/invested up to this point.
Don't ever do the assignment. No Free Work. If the company is not respectful of you and your time at the application process, it will only get worse from there.
I did that once, only due to ignorance and needing a job!! Let’s not forget, times are tough and who is going to say no to that 2nd or 3rd interview, but are required to do XY&Z
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I did once. It was under an hour. Never again.
I did it twice! Never got the job both times. It was a total waste of time and a headache. They say that they just want to see how you think but in my experience, they are after something specific and want to mine for ideas. If it were only between me and one other candidate, that makes sense. But in my experience, they also usually have MANY other applicants doing the same thing. They are mining.
When I get those one way interviews I pull my application from being considered. Not wasting my time on speaking to no one.
The whole interview/job hunt process is a joke now. Most of the initial HR screening calls are a joke since they don't even understand what the role is, so you end up with the worst "what are you 3 top soft skills" and "describe one of your flaws" questions. Whats worse is that interview skills don't usually have anything to do with the actual role you're applying for. Do you want me to give you good honest work or learn how to feed you BS?
Ghosting: I've learned if you haven't heard anything from them in a week, you're not being hired. If they wanted you, they would have made it a priority.
Yes. I had a behavior questionnaire that took me 4 hours to complete. All the while, the recruiter said I’m the #1 candidate. They ended up reposting the job and I got ghosted. 🤦♀️
Can you report a company to the FCC or the Buerau of Better Business for fake job postings?
If someone claims to have a job but then state they don't have openings, that's technically fraud.
I would report it
Why is this even a thing? It should be a crime!
Writing to your state or federal congresscritter might be effective. Insist on a creating a law prohibiting fake job postings, or at least severely restricting them, allowing a small margin for practical realities (someone is hired, may take a day or two to actually take down the posting) and define legit ways to advertise evergreen high-turnover positions and allowing companies to bypass legally required job postings when they already have a specific person in mind.
I applied for a management position at Taco Bell and got ghosted. I came in for an interview, and it went really well. They invited me to come back next week for a second interview where they took a copy of my driver's license and social security card, and I never heard back from them. I have a feeling that companies who do that are just trying to gather as much personal information as they can and sell it on the black market.
Oh no!
Agree. The "shred" box at a dental office where the extremely wealthy older people came ... was not as secure as I think the customers would have insisted upon. Literally zero reason for us to print the paperwork either - the hygienist all had computers to look up the records.
I haven't looked for a while, but I wouldn't hand over the ss or any ID without a start date. They don't need it until they add me to the payroll.
Yupe!! Just BS!!
@@ENFPerspectivesyeah one receptionist at the dentist told me that I don't have to put in my social security number and I shouldn't just to be safe.
Dishonorable mention: the "stress test" interview. This is when the interviewer acts rude to you and use this to excuse their bad behavior. This just screams abusive employer that will gaslight and bully you constantly.
Fuc%k all that
Yes, tricks, scams, nonsense. I would leave, walk the %&=÷ out. I'm 53 & do licensed security, armed work. I'm also a veteran. 80-90% of private security firms in Florida are awful. No mgmt or they are arrogant jerks who treat staff like dirt. Florida FDACS.gov regulations are in the security field too. Owners, officers can be cited, 📂 or fined, lose licenses.
I agree. That is not an excuse to act rude to you. That is a red flag for abusive company who will continue to act rude after they hire you.
I interviewed for a reserve officer position with a small police department that doesn't have the best reputation and one of the interviewers (three person panel) was the 'bad cop' and gave me a situational question where my FTO wanted me to issue a citation to a black man driving a luxury car. Ask him what the infraction was that warranted a citation and he said "I don't give a shit, just write him up for something." Told him I'm not going to do it...followed with "I'm your FTO and I can end your career." I countered with ::taps chest:: "You realize why we wear these things, right?" (referring to body cams). Dude got so red he looked like his head was going to explode like that scene from "Scanners".
Yeah!! F*** that BS from employers!!
There was a new company starting in our town and they were hiring. Everyone would be getting in on the ground floor and therefore have seniority. They made applicants take several test that lasted just over 2 weeks. Everyone who passed they informed us we were "HIRED" and to show up to meet the "OWNER" who was flying down from his business up north. We met and were assured they "were NOT bringing employees from up north to fill the positions". So, the few applicants who had other jobs put in their 2 weeks notice or quit their other jobs. Whe. We showed up to start working, and they said they changed their minds and filled positions with employees from up north. The maintenance man who put in two weeks' notice was livid. As well as everyone else. They lied to us and wasted our time for several weeks.
Documented? Then sue that company.
Class action lawsuit. You gave 2 weeks notice under false pretense. These companies have to learn. Make them pay.
We need a list that job seekers can list these fake or ghost jobs
I have been unemployed for about two months now. During this time I had a potential employer give me an assignment that took about a week to complete. We had a follow up interview where I assumed we would spend the bulk of the interview discussing this and the only mention of it was when they told me thank you for doing the project and then they moved on. At the end of the process they were considering me for the position but they lowballed me on the salary (after telling me the salary I asked for was acceptable in the first interview) and it was less than a living wage. Needless to say I didn’t accept that job.
Anddddd spoiler, that was the plan.
Perhaps you should file a claim with the department of labor for unpaid work. They had you do work you were not compensated for.
They had no intention of hiring you. They have to report they cant find qualified candidates so they can hire your H1B counterpart for pennies on the dollar. It's a scam.
When I was ghosted, I immediatey withdrew my application and ceased any contact with that employer. It is very unprofessional. At this point, if you don't get an offer within a few days after interviews, consider it a done deal.
It can take a week or two to get a job offer after the interviews. That happened at my last company.
@@pinklobelia2389 That is true in some cases. However, most employers do not care and are all about wasting time. I believe that the hiring manager already has their pick in mind.
This isn't true at all. A lot of times you can be a backup choice and they are going to offer you the job if their first choice ends up declining or not passing a background check or not having good references. That stuff takes a long time to figure out.
@@themartdog In some cases, yes. Regardless, there should be transparency. Not being upfront but expecting the applicant to be 100% is not ok. No one wants their time to be wasted.
I once had a job offer about ten minutes after an interview. I thought the interview went fine, maybe not great but good enough. Thanked them for their time. Decided to stop off at a Starbucks nearby before heading home and while standing in line for my over-sugared macchiato, my cell phone rang with a verbal job offer. I took it right there on the spot and had a great several months working with top-notch engineers on a new product. So that's the opposite end of ghosting. I'd say if nothing happens by the same day next week, it goes in the low-priority prospects folder.
I went for a job interview last week for a janitor position at a warehouse, and literally one of the questions was, "On a scale from 1-10, how lucky would you say you are?" I was like, huh? 😕
The correct answer is 10 - because I got this job.
What a stupid question
Who was the hiring manager? Anton Chigurh??
“What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss..?”
😂
I probably would have said "if I do not get this job my luck would be a 10" 😂😂😂😂
I've run into the 'free work' interview project before. I'm a graphic artist and you'd just be amazed at how much free art and design employers will try to extort out of you under pretense of a job application.
If they want to see what my work looks like, that's what a portfolio is for. You want me to design something for you, then pay me for it...
pipelining.. job gets reposted 3 times in 3 months
I refuse to do one-way interviews with a video recording. And if the job requires behavioral questions and tests I will not do it. These are my clues that a company is not good for me and a waste of time.
I've encountered all of these while job hunting and instantly turn down any job that engages in these practices. If I have to jump through a bunch of hoops just to speak to a human, it says a lot about their company culture (it sucks).
Getting tired of all of it. Fake job ads. Asking you to do tasks in interviews. Wanting 3-5 years on entry-level jobs because they want to pay entry-level money. Plus all the other bs.
Spot on, I was misled once and spent 2 days developing a complex Excel model for a prospective employer who just stole my solution and never heard from them again.
Should have sued them...
That’s where you add in a password
I once applied to a software company where I had to do a substantially challenging coding exercise. It took me around 6-7 hours, and then they just said "your work was great, but we closed the position". Hey, if you know your position's about to be closed, don't freakin send 7-hour challenges to candidates who are just starting out the process!
I really, really wonder... who are these people that come up with these ridiculous hiring processes? This is getting out of hand.
I had a casual interview for a job recently and they wanted me to complete some kind of personality/behavioral assessment afterwards which would take around 20 minutes of my time. They wanted this done before proceeding to the next step, a more formal interview with a panel of execs and managers. Felt like homework so I blew it off. Guess I kinda ghosted them. My bad...😊
One way interviews and the assignments are a no go for me. I don't care if its the most amazing or paying job, you want me to do either of them its a hard no.
I made it through round 4 of an interview, they wanted me to do an assignment that would take a week's worth of full time work to do. If I made it through that I would then go onto round 5 and possibly round 6. When the interviewer told me that there was an assignment and what it entailed I told him thank you but no. If they haven't figured out if I am a fit for the position after 1 initial interview, 2 panel interviews and a one on one with the owner with a total of 6 hours, then I wasn't interested in going any further. He got mad and berated me for being a poor worker and that I am throwing away a good career. I told him I am glad I got to see the company for what it is and then disconnected the meeting. Boy, did I get a scathing email after 5 min later.
Lol that guy was so mad he couldn't sell your data or your work as his.
yup - bait and switch. I see LOTS of that.
Bait and switch is popular right now.
Lengthy internet forms with lots of bs.
Last time I encountered it I called the manager directly, and sent him my CV directly. He came back to me and said that he was very interested but that I had to fill the forms. However... If it is a real job everything is negotiable. I got my interview.
interviewing external applicants that they have no intent on hiring/considering when an internal hire is 90-100% likely going to happen. another thing that has happened to me several times is they are calling me in for an interview for a different shift/position from the one i applied for . my best example is an audit job i applied for at a warehouse. i show up to interview and they changed the parameters they were looking for. the recruiter sent me to that interview because i had no forklift training under my belt but the position listed said nothing about being able to or requiring the driving of a forklift. i got blind sided with that at the very end of the interview. take a wild guess if i got the job or not?
Self videos are absurd! People are not auditioning for a Broadway play. Companies are also discriminating against applicants for not fitting into their 'culture' which is ageism.
I to,d one recruiter that one way video interviews were discriminatory and she disagreed.
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The nonsense of "pre screening" questions aggravates me. It is either an interview or it isn't! None of this bs of 30 questions that can only be to exclude the candidate.
One-way interviews are the worst. I did one of these with Edward Jones. It was the most absolutely awkward and difficult interview I've ever done. Was given 2-3 minutes to answer random situational questions that time out on you while you're being recorded. Very bad experience.
If any potential employer requires this type of interview, move on!
Procter and Gamble is a catastrophe when it comes to assesments.
It is a gamble to get a job at P&G, I guess?
My job interview experience ranged from being asked behavioral/situational questions that really got me stumped and to job interviews where I was told that I was "good to go." I've also had interviews where they told me at the end of it that they have other candidates to interview and they'll get back to you where I was potentially ghosted and when I call them 3 weeks later to follow up they told me "we went with a different candidate."
So, long are the days when you used to get a job simply by coming off the street when you see a now hiring sign in the window where you ask them for a job and then they almost immediately put you to work. Nowadays, the hiring process is a very lengthy background check where they practically want to make sure you never made a mistake in your life.
For the past year or 2, my poignant question has been if they have such a high turnover rate as staff is being treated poorly and not giving fair enough pay then WHY are they still in business, somehow too big to fail?
Government money and contracts. Guaranteed money.
After 4 job interviews that went really well, I was told about a 1h test. I was so bummed, but gave it a try. I left after 15 mins, it was literally a series of math problem, for a job that pays average wages. No thanks, goodbye. I told them and I quote "testing me on my math skills is not the way to go" (it was a BD job and I came with a track rwcord and portfolio)
Mann, those on way interviews are horrible. They can easily discriminate against people.
Exactly.
I has been falling victim for the first one and it is really annoying when a company claims to be hiring but noone actually get that position.
That happened to me twice
Applied for an internal role only to be told they aren't filling the position. If I was an outside candidate I would be super pissed. But I already have a job so no biggie.
Another horrible thing in the application process is jobs that insist on asking if you have ever been terminated from employment before. I was terminated 20 years ago from a job due to low quality people no fault of my own at this point I don't even put it on application. Why do I have to talk about something that happened? 20 years ago?
Thats a sign the company doesn't know how to interview. I've been though an interview like this.
You don’t.
Don't tell them everything. My resume only goes back 4 years ago. The rest of the stuff is history.
Unemployed people will be willing to jump through the hoops. My advice is get a gig or part-time job until you find a position worth applying for.
They got time. So its ok
If you live in a US state with decent unemployment, use that $$$ if you can. Chose a good fit & work that will support you. Or get skills, trades to find a higher paying post. Seasonal or resort places, with lodge 🏠 meals are +. The US government has short term jobs too.
@@DavidLLambertmobile lol, you don't get unemployment if you're white
I prepared a presentation for an interview, burned an entire vacation day because they couldn’t keep the interview to before lunch or after lunch to find out that the hiring manager completely forgot what degree I had.
What a complete waste of my time. 🤦🏽♀️
Experienced all (except for the one-way interview) of those shitty practices throughout my career as a teacher.
Those assessment tests are the worst. Anytime I was presented with an assessment test, I abandoned the application. Another pet peeve is when during an interview being hit with those tell me about a time question's.
Employers have every opportunity to assess a candidates ability to meet the requirements of role they are seeking to fill. They have the resume, background checks, multiple interviews with or without company SMEs to join the process, they have Glider assessments, etc. For any company that can't effectively obtain what they need from these, the chances are their hiring processes are either over-engineered or are grossly ego-centric, or both.
I agree. I do not agree with making people do cases unless they have zero experience in that field. That was only a thing relatively recently and I dont think it helps people to really decide who to hire. The resume and background checks are more reliable. Having a track record is the best indicator!
Odd job requirements, training, or education. 6 3/4 years of technical training on obscure software and 5 3/16 years on something unrelated. Often this job posting is tailor made for a particular person known only to the hiring manager. Everyone else need not apply because we only made it public to make it appear legit.
Yep! They might as well say internal candidates only!
After the screening interview, a major US hotel chain asked me to complete what was basically an IQ test. I then got through two more interviews only to be ghosted for a month. After chasing for the third time they eventually said they didn’t like any candidate and would re advertise the role but with a different job description.
I think that companies simply reposting is one of the keys to understanding why the best qualified candidate didn't get the job and the job gets reposted. Unlike in, say, sports, where you simply need to be the best among a field of competitors, with employers they simply repost the job if their best candidate doesn't meet the job requirements.
If a company asks me to do a non technical or skills assessment over 20 minutes, I always reject the job. Even when I was a desperate college student. I knew I’d get filtered out by them, so I knew not to waste my time.
I ask them "what will my compensation be for this presentation, as that seems excessive for an interview process to work for free?" They'll either show they just want free labor and reject you instantly or show they might actually be serious about hiring you.
My threshold is an hour, but same thing with me, "no work for you!" especially if it looks like it could be part of an ongoing R&D effort figuring out how to add a feature into some product or service. Brain-teaser puzzles, I also skip since I'm not looking for a job solving brain teaser puzzles.
I once applied to a place that, in their online application after the usual resume/experience entry, had a *one-hundred-question* personality assessment! I don't even remember if I ditched it after 20-30 questions or just started entering 5s for everything thereafter. But in either case, I won't be applying there again.
From being on the other end, I can't stand personality assessments and think they have no place in hiring. At best they don't give a bit of useful info about a candidate any more than a zodiac sign. At worst they're a cover for discrimination based on a nebulous "personality fit" because the test gave some magic number that was too low or high.
Great point about "zodiac." I always read the Myers-Briggs categories as astrological signs. You can recognize yourself in each and everyone of them.
@@lizzi437 Yeah, I found M-B interesting and somewhat useful, but not relevant to careers or job hunting. We all are one way in the morning, another way in the afternoon, different under pressure than on a lazy sunday afternoon, and maybe are more energized and on our toes when out of our comfort zone. MB is just a more modern astrology.
@@DrunkenUFOPilotMyers Briggs is not useful to anyone considering the fact that it wasn’t based on any actual logic reason or evidence.
Employers, especially like shown here, are there own worst enemies. Avoid companies that pull this stuff!
True. But I know some do take those jobs because of the financial pressure. Hope they get a better job afterward. :(
@@dontdosm2 Still too many do and you cannot blame them, if they are desperate. If these companies had zero success they would've stopped long ago. Sadly.
Ghosting is the worst and most painful practice in my opinion :(
Don't invest your emotions and expectations in a job which is still not yours in the first place, that'll make it less "painful" to you.
@@ajonetto Its something I can’t control. Especially when I like the role.
Accept that zoom interview appointment or on site interview appointment and then don't show up. Make them waste their time.
I have done that. Since the jobs want to be assholes, so can I?
They will just reject you and move on to the next candidate.
They don't need you.
I'm glad you mentioned the evergreen jobpostings. When I was desperate for work I applied to a number of posts that completely ghosted me, but kept appearing in my indeed mails week after week for months on end.
You forgot multiple interviews for one position. Even when it don't make sense. Executive high level white collar job,2 or 3 interviews make sense. Interviewing for a dishwasher or factory job, 1 is more than enough.
I'm not looking for a high level executive position, so at the most I'll do two, a phone interview and then a face-to-face interview. That's it.
Wow, I get all of the above. But by far the worst are the "affirmative questions", which are basicly questions about gender, sexuality, physical deficiencies, or skin color. Now, I get companies are thirsty for ESG money, but that's simply ludicrous.
I'm a blk woman and I choose do hot wish to answer. Hire me based on my skills not my color or gender.
Those forms used to be filled out at hire. I've noticed it in the online applications now. It's crazy.
At least some jurisdictions legally require the gathering of this information. But yes, it is both stupid and evil. We know that it for the purpose of discriminating against white men, to make up for the supposed unified conspiracy of white men unfairly discriminating against all other groups, who are of course all biologically identical in their abilities and character.
At least some jurisdictions legally require the gathering of this information. But yes, it is both stupid and evil. We know that it for the purpose of discriminating against white men.
Looks like TH-cam's censorship algorithm didn't like the sentiment that I expressed in my previous comment.
At least some jurisdictions legally require the gathering of this information. But yes, it is both stupid and evil.
Looks like TH-cam's censorship algorithm didn't like the sentiment that I expressed in my previous comments.
I have an idea…..I think Brian should do a live chat where we can ask him straight up questions, experiences, etc, I think that would go a long way!!
I once had a bait-and-switch job interview invitation: I had applied from a permanent position to an intersting job offer. Got invited - just to find out they had invited me for a different job that they thought might suit as well - too bad that this job was a noticable step down from what I had applied for. Super annoying, I wasted a day off for that. Was almost thinking if I should charge them my hourly rate on top of the travel costs...
I’m going through the ghosting thing. I’ll have phone interviews where they give me great feedback, I’ll follow up and don’t hear back
Govt jobs really need to piss off with the self assessment questions.
Ahhh, I guess you did a Fed application?
After taking over 30 timed test I no longer will take any test for a job. Nor will I do a one way interview anymore. The job works both ways. Not one way.
Hello. Much as I agree with everything you've just said, ending these practices as of right now is not feasible. No matter how bad or toxic a company is, it will still have plenty of people applying for jobs.
Do you know why? Employment is scarce these days. The people who told us that there are jobs guaranteed after going to a university and getting a degree lied. Nowadays, we even have people who have PHDs that are either jobless or take jobs that are not rewarding enough. There are more college graduates than jobs available. This is the same reason why people struggle to leave a toxic work environment.
I absolutely hate those one-way interviews ugh
Never again
Had a recent interview where one interviewer started asking me questions probing into my mental state and why I felt the need to be helpful, going into therapist territory. I called him out and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why I didn’t get the offer.
Weirdo
4-5 round interviews. Not talking a phone screen & then 2 interviews. No 4+ extensive interviews.
My pet peeve is my sending them my resume AND THEN “Oh fill out your prior work history and education and all these other things that are on your resume into these boxes here” uh no, that’s why you took my resume, it’s one or the other don’t make me go through the effort of doing a resume for you only to have to tediously copy and paste it into your boxes
A lot of these companies are buying into these “behavioral” tests!! My old employer did it because they wanted you to only have “YES” men!!
Its a real wake up call when you get bait n switched or end up working at a company thats "work hard play hard" a.k.a. we understaff on purpose. Usually im able to avoid understaff kn purpose but sometimes its not obvious.
What about the temp agencies that just throw you anywhere they want you to go without an interview or anything
That was my experience as a temp; fill in for someone in some inane office role while they were on PTO or other leave. After a few days when you finally were able to do the job and knew how to get to/from work, the agency would just assign you somewhere else. Even better were the positions that dangled the "if you do a good job, it's a permanent position" carrot that never materialized.
@@cjanquart Sounds familiar to me when I was doing 3rd party contract work (IT deployments) through a temp agency back 7-8 years ago...the few clients the recruiter connected me with would dangle the carrot on the pole with the old quote "You guys have done a great job, I'm going to see if our budget will allow to bring you on permanently" or like you said with the recruiters make people like me fall for their sales pitch "If you do a good job, we'll release you from our payroll and put you on our client's payroll as a permanent employee"
That's 80% of temp companies.
Modern life getting worse. Workers have little job security and even less humanity is given to us in the hiring process. This won't END WELL!
Hey LAL guy, it happened to me. I was hired on as a level 2 cook, i worked about 2 weeks in and they switched me with another guy in the morning. I dont like cooking in the morning but on top of this i was demoted to level 1 cook in addition. They say i have to "speed it up" if I want that level again but I'm thinking this was the plan in the first place.
It was
@@BusArch42 suggestions?
I know the federal government "assessment" takes hours. I am looking at you Housing and Urban Development. It was for some "Program Analyst" position.
4:38 I stopped applying to NYU Langone positions because they require you to fill out a 100 question survey they swear doesn't have "wrong or right" answers when it's obvious they have a data pool collected from those surveys that if you don't meet their cumulative benchmark results, no interview.
ugh!
I know of a large company that gave behavioral questions (on a scale of 1-5 agree or disagree) to over 500 candidates as a part of the recruiting process. They hired only less than 15 people and let them all go after 4 months... and this is a large company with billions in annual revenue... What do employers achieve by doing this?!
I learned a long time ago that when a company says they're always hiring, it's a major red flag.
Advertising a higher salary then telling you a very low one in interview...waste of time.
The ghosting after a few rounds of interviews is expected behavior. For six jobs that I actually got an interview and at least two rounds with, including in person, five ghosted.
Did a one-way interview with Phillip Morris International. The rejection letter began with "Hey! You didn't make it". Senior position by the way...
A company in Italy wanted me to do a "test project" before hiring me. When I asked "are you trying to make me work for free?", they got pretty angry about it and showed me the door. 😃
Non profit and retail are notorious for assessment applications.
Thank you Brian
At Will Employment. I got fired for refusing to record illegal, fraudulent medical records. I am now next to homelessness. Do they care?
I remember during one interview, the HR person noticed that I had served in the military (USAF). He rolled his eyes and mumbled, "Another one of those." By this time, I had enough of his talking down to me during the interview. I stood up and said, "Sir, if it wasn't for the American Military, you would probably be eating sauerkraut with chop sticks." And I left. Some HR people are absolute fools....
A common FL security, armed protection scam is to say- ohhh we need new mgrs, supervisors for ■■■ ... Then when you apply they say ohhh we filled that slot but you can work here ■■■ for less $$$.
I had a "working interview" (once) in a hospital for a...get this...custodian. They would work people for the day, & then decide nobody got hired, thus....free labor for the day. What a fool I was! Oh, & they're still doing it. Also, I took a job out of state (bus driver) in Colorado Springs, from Phoenix. We took up & relocated. After 4 months they made up some lame excuse because I "made a wrong turn" called me"insubordinate" & fired me. We spent several thousand moving there, & it took us a couple years & a couple thousand more to move back to Phoenix. Ya''ll watch out for these "predatory employers", they'll mess up your credit & employment history. I'm still licking my wounds, & trying to fix my credit.
Predictive Index tests are the worst. Companies have key employees that took at PI test, then they think they need to match that key employee’s PI, or they think qualified people are not detail oriented simply because of a PI test. It’s crap and we get crap employees as a result.
There needs to be lawsuits or a class action against companies that give assignments and don’t pay for the labor or intangibles.
Great video. 😊
Great input
Make the Wonderlic illegal.
I can fake a personality test, it's not hard.
Also to add are REQUIRING REFERENCES and nontransparent background checks (all parties - including the applicant - should be aware of the background check not just the company who requested it and the agency who does it).
Just for fun, we should all respond with BS resumes linked to phony email addresses or just create a bunch of these to respond to their emails. If you have a spare phone, let them test you to that number. Flood their inboxes with BS upon more BS and then play hard to get. Play the bait and switch game: answer a few of their emails to lead them on, but make high salary demands and waste their time. Treat them the way you would with a scammer who email you or calls you.
Reminds me of the days we used to black fax people that would send us garbage faxes weekly.
They don't care if you get the job or not.
It is an employer's market at the moment. They hold all the cards.
You need them more than they need you.
I wish companies would stop laying off huge numbers of people, then turning around and going on a hiring spree. I’m looking at you, Tesla.
I'm glad I didn't take that Tesla job, laid off 250 people
>Had an interview last week in a town 45 minutes away. Got cleaned up and dressed up.
>Made it 15mins early to the appointment.
>Was greeted by an office body, who was confused when i said "interview with (lady)... this is (manager's) office at (address)?"
>Body talks to (manager).
The meeting had been canceled, no reason given.
>Emailed (lady) with professional wtf.
>bagel