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come on dude the $11 an hour IT expert is not a position in the United States it's in the Philippines or India or some thing You also said "if you're that hard up to get experience" the required experience for the job is a minimum of five years… A.k.a. it's not a position to get experience you already have to have experience
Curious, did you report these ads to any labor board? These are also used to scam people to steal identity etc. These are so crazy, I would be afraid to meet them!
I've seen quite a few personal ads like this as well. They're looking for a woman gorgeous and sexy and young enough or a man smart and successful and tall enough for their standards, who's dumb enough to settle for the little the ad writer has to offer. They don't begin to describe why anyone so desirable would want to be with them: the ad is entirely and obliviously about their own demands.
@@mctransportation9831 True, but the degree to which HR concentrates on one side or the other of that equation is what makes a company crappy or not. Some places focus so exclusively on cutting payroll that they seem to nearly forget realistic qualifications altogether. Others like to keep wages low but are willing to go up for a really well-qualified candidate, so they don't publish insanely low offers to begin with.
It can also be “desperate enough” as well. A growing population, shrinking job market is a recipe for abuse and exploitation. The working class already lost a lot its power in this Capitalist pyramid economy.
I'm actually tempted to apply to one of these unpaid remote jobs, pretend work is being done, but do nothing and when the deadline comes, just say "you get what you payed for".
@@g2whatbrodie283 You expect proper english at that price point? :D Edit: I would probably add a _lot_ more spelling mistakes to the reply, just in hope of getting the "who tf signed off on hiring that!!" discussion rolling :) Though also not from my normal email adress :D
It's amazing that even with the labor shortage, companies are still pulling the same BS - micromanaging, low pay, insane interviewing processes (personality tests, drug tests, multiple interviews for shitty pay).
EXACTLY! I have 12yrs of nursing experience. Interviewed for a nursing home. Was personally attacked and spoken to like trash. All bcuz of my work history. If a nursing home is crap I put notice and leave. Guess according to them I should stay at bad jobs. She barked that they only hire ELITE nurses who never quit. Google reviews are deplorable and they’re begging on indeed for every single shift/position 💅🏼
Literally turned down a job because the stupid process and they baited me in the end with a lower position. Such an insult. Found a job that interviewed me and sent me an offer letter in a couple days. No bullshit. Love my job now. Oh another I asked for the salary range and they have refused to tell me. But told me to meet with them so I can discuss it further with them. Lol 🤣
I'll Never forget this one job that tried to recruit me right out of college that clearly takes advantage of the young and inexperienced. When I showed up for the in person interview, found out it was Monday- Saturday from 11am-7pm (Impossible to hold down a second job with those hours) 100% commission with target pay at a whopping $49k (2016 Dollars). I explained to them that I made more as a Bartender working 4-5 nights/ week. Then, the "director" who was extremely cold and abrupt asked me on the spot if I want the job, and I combated him about how benefits we're never even discussed and he retorted "You're 22, aren't you still under your parents health insurance"? I left immediately after that.
@@duneeaaasha I live in NY. Bartenders here can make $60-$100k and I don’t even live in the City. I probably cleared $55-60k my last year of college, while bartending.
@@duneeaaasha Also, for context, I ended up leaving the restaurant industry to work in sales anyway. Most sales positions have a base salary and make way more than $49k. I would never work that hard and grind to make that little on 100% commission w no benefits. The job I took instead of this offered $48k base (guaranteed) w benefits and I was promoted with a 20% raise within 8 months.
Productivity tracking is the devil. I need to get up and move around, go to the bathroom, take a personal call, etc. periodically. I do these things at my current job (both when I’m on site or working remote) and no one cares. I’ve had employers who have micromanaged my time (one while I was pregnant) and I left them in the dust. I’m a grown up, as long as I get my work done and do it well, sit down and leave me be.
That's my management strategy. I don't have the time or desire to micro manage my staff. I expect my staff to get things done without me having to monitor everything. I definitely make sure great training exists for the given positions, but then it's yours to do. Meet your deadlines with high quality, you're rarely gonna have me checking on you. I hire for people that don't need to be micromanaged or hand held all the time ( and some need or want it).
Yeah, I'd tell them to get lost. Give me a concrete metric I need to meet. If I meet it and took 5 bathroom breaks an hour, I don't want to hear anything about it.
Thats the one few good things about American culture is that we don't like authority or obedience. In Japan if the boss says jump, the employee will jump
My 15 year old nephew was getting yelled at on his third day of his very first job. I’m glad he understood that wasn’t acceptable and walked out! He’s been fine at his second job for months now. They don’t abuse him there.
I hope you are proud of him. He recognized that that was an abusive job and was mature enough to be able to walk out of it and not accept it. Some teens stay there believing this is a normal part of the job. When it is not normal.
Just recently quit one of my first official jobs. My employer was rude, disrespectful and made jokes and statements about cutting other employee salaries in front of other employees. We also was forced to go to a company dinner event and the food wasn't cooked to their liking so they literally started berating the staff their and the boss himself made jokes loudly about wanting to go to McDonalds along with staff following in it. I was so embarassed and felt so bad for the woman who had to deal with them and simmer them down, there was a lot of people there at the time, but it's so disrespectful. I eventually quit a month or so afterwards they were never extremely bad towards me, but still enough that I didn't wanna stay that long.
General rule: Never apply to a “professional” job posting that has more than one typo. Some of these sound a read like an overseas scam designed to procure personal data from unsuspecting and desperate people.
One of the job offers to avoid is the one where you are promised high earnings working from home. All you need to do is buy a kit for say $50 to get you making their product which you then submit to them. But they will always reject it as substandard. They've got your money.
@@lopoa126 Um no it says more about the culture of online jobs. This is a worldwide issue of predation on online job postings. Especially if you consider it's a very new issue that previous generations nowhere on the planet could have feasibly been prepped for.
@@lopoa126 Actually, it says more about shitheads taking advantage of a labor force that's been exposed to working remotely in the past year or so. A lot of job postings during the COVID shutdown were remote positions, so it doesn't seem weird to see remote positions still being offered.
This happened a few years back. Someone I know got his Graphic Arts college degree. He was looking for his first position in this field after college. He applied at a local newspaper who had an opening for a graphic artist. He went through the interview and job applicants were given the assignment to create an ad and they would use that as a part of the selection process. His assignment was to create an ad for a specific car. He was notified that the position was filled by another applicant. He put in a lot of work and was disappointed. When the next issue of the newspaper came out he saw his ad. It was a large and prominent ad. There was no compensation and he felt taken advantage of. He was not expecting the ad to be used unless he was hired. Sad.
I don't know much about the legal side with unpaid work, but if the employer is profiting from a person's work then they need to be compensated. This seems like he could take the employer to court over this.
When I started doing contract work, after years of experience, I was asked something similar. I just told them I'd provide something generic, but if they wanted my help on their projects they needed to hire me. None of those companies were serious about hiring anyone, they just wanted fresh ideas to steal.
@@justhereforagoodtime88And THAT'S not expensive. (BIG eyeroll) Really tired of everyone yelling SUE over every shitty thing anyone has done to them. Lawyers are expensive. Small claims court could be an option. But that's time consuming, and this guy would lose.
Also, be aware and alert for companies that offer a “sign on bonus”. They are huge red flags. Those companies do not give all of the money upfront, they split the entire bonus in obnoxious installments over a huge length of time to insure that you “keep working”. Therefore, it’s not a bonus at all, but an exaggerated “pay increase”.
I actually did receive a $10K sign on bonus upfront at the first hospital I worked at right out of nursing school. However, I would have to pay it back if I left my employer within 36 months of being hired. I stayed 39 months, then got a higher paying position in another state in Pediatrics.
After several rounds of interviews. I was offered a job. They said it is salary and mandatory 50 hours a week. It was at least $20k below industry standard pay. They asked if 50 hours a week was a problem. I said yes. I was told I could work 40 hours but not to tell anyone else. Then they told me they have a hard time getting people to accept their jobs. I said “Well you under pay and expect more hours.” I declined the job.
HI, yes that is another new "trick of the trade", some employers are doing the " do what you need to do to finish the job " which translates to do the hours it takes free. So currently the working day will vary from 8 to 10 hours a few hectic days is 12 hour days or work at home after dinner for a few hours
Jobs that pay salary are NOT legally supposed to track hours. That is why it is a salary. They can only give you a general range of how the workload looks. It is also carefully regulated to avoid people using salary as a way to avoid paying overtime. Certain jobs can't be salaried positions.
The funny part is that you probably declined a job just because of the social reason that they said other people were declining it. Low IQ people are so funny with the way they work lol. If they said everybody wants to work there you’d probably happily accept 😂
@@charlesg7926 if the company themself who’s best interest is to glamorize their business and workplace to gain new hires, says that that the position is subpar why would anyone want to work there afterwards? That’s a very questionable thing to hear especially if it’s coming from the employer themselves, because it goes AGAINST their bias. Of course if the company said it’s a great workplace that’s not as a credible statement because it is working in their bias.
Musicians and artists have been complaining about this for years. People want to get free performances or art work from them, in exchange for "exposure". Exposure doesn't pay bills and has shown up on many death certificates.
Bloggers and journalists, as well. Writing 1500+ word articles for a more established blogger, or any type of article for an established paper, but nothing but "exposure" to show for it... And that's assuming they even publish it.
@@justinblair9661 the situation that you mention is a common theme in Ernest Hemingway's "A Moveable Feast", stories from his time in Paris, while working as a freelance journalist and writer.
@@justinblair9661 no, sorry i must've typed that on accident lol . But I did leave a public comment to the video and I had a question, can you help answer when you see it
I interviewed at a fairly big brand gym for a personal trainer position. I come highly qualified with over 10 years experience. They offerd me $12.50 per hour... I actually laughed at the interviewer and let them know how insulting that was and how displeased I was for them wasting my time. This stuff is everywhere.
In my profession, it's like pulling teeth to get an interviewer to reveal what their willing to pay. You go through the interview, and they ask your salary expectation, hoping that you undersell yourself. If you ask for what you actually want, they typically ghost you, not wanting to negotiate at all. You've basically wasted both your time and the interviewer's time on a "non-starter" salary issue. This is however, not always the case, as in a few jobs in the past they either negotiated openly, or offered me more than what I asked. That's the sign of a good employer.
If you really have 10 years of experience, then you can make way more money working on your own. When I was 18 years old w/ no experience, I posted craigslist ads for personal training, and people paid me $50 per session to drive to them and train them. I could easily make $200 in 5 to 6 hours (including driving times).
Worked at a golf course where the owner told employees at a meeting that "it is a privilege to work here". He also mentioned to the golf course maintenance staff that its better job than most because "where else can you get a free workout and a tan?" I had to bite my lip to prevent myself from bursting into a laughing fit, and he was dead serious! The owner also thinks he knows what customers want. I checked business reviews on google and they are mostly negative lol.
Kohls department store was pretty bad. They duped me into thinking I was coming for an interview only to show up to a room filled with at least 8 other applicants… It was a “group interview” but they didn’t disclose that to me, and it was only one of a series of interviews, tests, and screenings for a crappy part time low paying job. These people need to get over themselves. Smh People should also be aware of phrases like “competitive pay” and “excellent benefits” usually this means neither is being offered
Wonder if one can just have notepad up and write gibberish to spoof the surveillance program. As an IT worker, I would uninstall that s**t or find away to change group policy.
@@Delimon007 yeah I do know this, which is a good thing I haven’t told you which companies I worked for. Not difficult for me to “borrow” AD permission groups from my higher ups or managing whatever firewall/av server I have access to.
These type of companies are more interested in monitoring their employees rather than focusing on the business and improving their products and services
Exactly. I want to know who is monitoring the productivity of the "productivity coaches." This all sounds like someone fell for what a consulting firm pitched.
too big to fail lol but yes the worse the jobs get, the more they become like slaveowners, and part-time/remote is ideal for me. 13:45 the virtue signalling is ridiculous, first 500 company for equal pay lol every job I work women supervisors.
if they spent half the frigging money they spend spying on and bullying employees on product/service r & d or increase employee remuneration they'd be better off altogether. Murrican mgmt is dead from the neck up. they deserve to fail.
Monitoring their employees probably IS the business. Squeeze the workers dry of productivity and then replace them with next years batch of lemon limes.
It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Act like your employees are stupid children, and your employees will eventually have so little respect for you that they'll happily relax on company time. A respectful employer can get even the laziest person to try harder.
I heard of a guy that kept getting in trouble for "lack of productivity" because the employee monitoring system wasn't seeing very much mouse movement from him. The thing is is that he was one of the most productive employees but just didn't use the mouse much, instead using faster methods like keyboard shortcuts and Vim. Of course the management doesn't care, they just see that he's clicking the mouse less than everyone else therefore he's doing less work.
That would be fantastic! If I got a review like that, I'd install an app to click the mouse constantly whenever I'm not at my desk. I'd be employee of the month every month.
I one time interviewed for a legal internship. I had a bachelor's degree in Engineering and I was a second year law student already, and they asked me if I had an MBA. It was a low paid internship and they wanted a lawyer with an MBA and an Engineering degree.
I worked at a place that wanted me to be an EXPERIENCED HR Director and a Senior Accountant. I was hired as the accountant, but they added HR after....then two additional lead roles. No training. Oh, wait....the person that helped me with their accounting policies was my predecessor they knew was a problem. Required a LOT of OT. NO comp time, no $$$, nothing except constantly critical.
I know quite a few engineering firms that want you to have a Masters for an entry level position. I also know people that have started working in the third world just to work in their field.
This happened to me: I was offered the position of CTO (Chief Technical Officer) to build the startup's product from scratch. But wait! No salary. Okay... equity? The founder offered me 1%. Totally blew my mind.
my wife was offered a job at a Chinese food restaurant... they said she had to work 2 weeks with no pay for training. she of course declined, that shit was a joke.
I’m thinking that’ll be the wave of the future given current government policies that refuse to enforce immigration laws. We will all be fighting for a job soon enough and expected to take low pay or no pay for training.
After two interviews with one company, they told me they will be setting up an additional 8 (eight) rounds. I declined to pursue the job. This is abusive behaviour and needs to stop. If a company cannot make their minds about a candidate after 3-4 interviews, they should outsource that work to someone who can do the job.
This is likely a psychological trick. If you do so much to get the job it makes you believe it is really important to you to get the job. In this position you loose all leverage in contract negotiations.
The only bigger waste of time than being micromanaged by a "productivity coach" is being a "productivity coach". Also, yes, in New York City "unpaid internships" are illegal.
I've been at the same job for 14 years with an Associate's degree and am not currently looking elsewhere, however I do look at what types of opportunities other companies are offering just to have an general idea. I'm amazed at the amount of hoops some of these companies want you to jump through JUST TO APPLY! I could read the instructions to put together a whole dresser and a bookshelf from IKEA and have it all done by the time I finish reading the job description. All I can do is laugh when I see places offering $15-$19 an hour and they're requiring a Bachelor's degree plus 5 years experience. That's just so adorable.
I saw a job listed in a programming language requiring 5 yrs experience with it. It was less than 2 yrs old at the time. Also they offered half of what the norm was.
A job posting said that the job required no experience. I showed up to the interview and they proceeded to tell me that the job DID require experience but that they were willing to hire me for a significantly lower wage and a different position. I noped out of there because that was their awful way of getting people to actually come in
I’m a nurse and a hiring bonus can be a red flag to me. If there are several healthcare facilities in one area and only 1-2 are offering a hiring bonus; avoid that place like the plague!
I was offered a 20k sign on bonus at a hospital in rural ny. They flew me in for the interview. I declined. Hospital, and town were less than ideal to say the least.
@@StellaPlayss I'm a traveling MT. $3000/wk for 3 months I can do. I know the place is going to be a hot mess but it's temporary and excellent compensation for my inevitable frustration.
yup. my last job included a hiring bonus....a year later, they laid me off (and 30+ others) because of covid....before covid even reached us, and a month later they got a PPP loan somehow. I was pissed at first, but now I'm grateful I'm no longer with them.
During the recession in the 90’s, I took on a part-time seasonal temporary data entry job (2nd job to supplement my income). We had to enter credit card payments for Citibank. It was in the summer and 90 degrees and up at that time. The building was huge and air conditioner was extremely cold. They provided “free coffee “, the air was blowing through vents down our backs and it was freezing in there. So naturally I was drinking the coffee to “warm up” , and caused me abc other to go to the bathroom multiple times (between freezing temperatures & coffee). I had to bring a sweater in the middle of the summer to this job. What made it worse is the bathroom was far away from our work space, at least 15 minutes one way to the bathroom! So the supervisor asked to speak to me about my multiple trips to the bathroom. I told her that they need to turn the air conditioner down, frigid temperatures causing everyone to make extra trips to the bathroom. She told me I had to cut down the bathroom trips. I told her it wasn’t intentional, that I came there to work not be in the bathroom so much. Even brought a sweater in the middle of the summer to maintain my body temperature. I asked did she want I doctors note since they wouldn’t turn down the air conditioner. She told me that she didn’t want a doctors note and they would monitor my bathroom trips. I called the temp agency and told them I quit that job assignment. Not my real job wasn’t going to accept their abusive inhumane treatment. This is why people are quitting across the country, these employers don’t know how to treat employees!
This is part of the reason I left my job a couple weeks ago. They keep the building freezing cold (making sure to keep productivity up?) so I'd wear my winter coat in the office while the outside temperature was 90+ degrees. They had very strict schedule adherence rules as well, so even taking a 5 minute bathroom break outside of the set schedule could result in a written warning. If people are at risk of losing their jobs for meeting their own basic human needs, something really needs to be addressed with these businesses.
@@tkell31 How so. If it’s freezing cold and you need to warm up to prevent getting sick then why is it a ridiculous excuse to go to the bathroom. It’s not the employees fault if the bathroom is 15 minutes away which ends up causing 30 minute bathroom breaks. It’s the employers who are unnecessarily not accommodating their employees. It’s not difficult to install an new bathroom that is closer or to increase the temperature to something more comfortable.
FedEx had a driver job. Had to have excellent credit. You had to buy the van owner operator style. Problem is it has to be painted with their logo. Problem is, unlike 18 wheel owner operators, the resale market for your van is thin. You are responsible for fuel and maintenance on this van. I declined. I don’t want to pay for their van.
@@johniii8147 oh yeah, because people totally don't go online and tell lies. And totally get life advice from TH-cam comments. You must be new to the internet.
Also avoid the "volunteer" job trap. This is the one where people suggest while you are looking for a paying job to get out there and take a volunteer position. What happens is they work you full hours with no pay, no benefits, high demand, keep you so busy you can't actually look for a real job. They are more than happy to keep using your free labor with no possibility of getting hired ever. You may actually train others who they hire.
I was applying to a position at a venture capital firm where one of their application questions, before any guarantee of interview, was for me to identify a company that would be a good acquisition for their portfolio and explain why. I responded with "I have an opportunity in mind that I would be glad to share my perspectives on during an interview." Needless to say, I never reached the interview stage but avoided doing free work or give them any leads coming from my IP.
I would told them ….” , I got a book of them, which I actually follow , but I keep my notes on my black book at home , and locked up. “. And watch their reaction.
I'm a basic electronics assembler/soldering tech. Almost ALL these jobs are sourced via temp agencies. For a while I assumed I was disposable and "just a temp" but then I realized that if I hated a particular workplace, I could simply call my agency and be re-assigned somewhere else, until I found a fun team with good vibes. I've gone temp-to hire three times, at great jobs lasting over a decade. ALWAYS claim your power!
I was self employed for 20 years, coronavirus shut me down so I took a job with an established company. Everything I was told about every aspect of the job was a complete lie, I gave it a year I really like some of my co workers, but there was a reason I worked for myself for 20 years. After the holidays I will be self employed again and never go back, I gave it a shot and feel bad for people stuck in crappy jobs.
@@ThomasBomber I’m going to build my own rental properties I was hired as project manager for a fairly large cabinet supplier but they are liars, I should have read the Glassdoor reviews. I’m in south east North Carolina and this is the last piece of undeveloped real estate on the east coast. I’ve been in the home building business for 30 years
When you need a paycheck to survive, there will always be job postings like this, because it's an inherently unequal arrangement. When you say you gotta be pretty desperate to apply for these jobs, well yeah, that's exactly what happens. This perpetuates the antiquated notion that it doesn't matter how shitty a job is, you should still be "grateful" for the job.
@@wmason1961Hardly. They drain you enough that you don’t have the stamina to keep working on your dream job. Getting yelled at and micromanaged for stupid things only takes away from any energy you might have had in the evening. Decent jobs are great placeholders.
When I left my last IT job, I checked back on them and saw their job ad. They increased their requirements and I longer qualify for my old position. I held the place together (nearly single-handedly) for 7 years. The kicker: just before I left, we upgraded all the systems and the job got immensely easier than the bulk of the time when I worked there.
Back in 2020 I had a phone interview with a Dialysis company for a tech position, went well. Couple of months later an in person interview that went even better, then nothing.......totally ghosted(no thanks but no thanks/sorry we went with another person, no contact whatsoever and trying to contact them was an exercise in futility). A few days ago I get an email from said company stating that my Resume matched what they are looking for( i.e. want to play a game again). I emailed the recruiter to politely inform them that #1 Thanks but no thanks, I am not interested in being ghosted again. #2 My time is to important to be wasted by such an unprofessional/rude employer. I can only imagine how they treat the workers they have.
They may have a bunch of resumes. They hire someone as a casual, sack them so don't have to pay benefits, pick up another resume and do the same. Some employers are ars..es
They often hide the pay with the usual "We offer a Competitive Salary". It's really annoying because if you don't know what the salary is how do you know it's going to be worth your while applying for the job or not and the companies then wonder why nobody is applying for the job posted.
I don't even bother applying for those jobs. There are plenty of legit jobs out there. Reasonable employers tell you pay, days of work, hours, location etc
I have half the mind to create a bot to submit cover letters to all these posts that are under $15/hr and tell them that McDonnalds pays higher wages then they do lol.
And repeat the submission every 2-3 hours with different names of sender , just to fill up their e-mail postbox. This would be a good and socially useful punishment for such hoax employers .
16:25 THIS. When employers expect employees to be as invested as the owners of the company that is absolutely ridiculous. Unless you are giving out profit sharing or equity stake in your company, there is zero reason for any employee to be held to that expectation.
Some people need to hear things like this more. Because so many people don't know where to draw the line. Givers need boundaries, because takers have none.
I saw a job advert for an IT company that said the person applying must undertake 3 months of unpaid training before being considered. Then, if they "passed" the training, then the employee would have to pay back the money for that training over 24 months through instalments directly from their wage! Who tf would take that!!!
So America doesn't have minimum requirements to bring somebody on a H1-B visa? When I was looking at a job in the UK I noticed they had a list including the minimum wage you must be making to be allowed to come. In the end I found it too much effort with brexit etc though; but it's a good system to ensure employers can't abuse the systems to underpay people.
@@dodopson3211 correct. America has no high bar of entry for H1B visas... I've been in tech since the 90s and when I think about the number of jobs that were offshored or outsourced it smacks me as criminal. I know of a major pharma company here locally that the requirement to be a ful time and not temp or contractor in their it department means you had to have come in on an h1b.. it literally is people from India running their entire IT department.
For the "Second Round," I've heard that it's a way for companies to get free work. They say your project was okay and they'll call you later. They never call and later, you see your work being used in their business. Glad you're exposing these fools. I thought it was just me and my bad luck that I ran into such people.
Never ever do homework interviews. Any company that requires you to do homework interviews, you should immediately run out the door. Because its exactly how you described it, they will have people do a homework interview, because the other incompetent people in the company can't figure it out. And once you do figure it out, you will be ghosted by the company and they got free work and solution. This is why you should NEVER do homework interviews for anyone.
I have an invoice template for this very situation; $120/hr ($100/hr pre-pandemic); 10hr minimum. The few times a company agreed to contract me, I got the work done in under 6hrs. Taxes tore my ass up tho.
I recently applied at a large chain pet store. Had to take a 15 minute "work DNA profile" assessment. Questions like (strongly disagree to strongly agree) "I feel making friends at work is important". I answered every question with "neutral". Apparently, that's the right answer because they sent me a report showing I was in the most preferred range in all areas of work behavior. They still didn't offer me an interview. I wonder why? 🤔
In college we had someone come to talk to us that said answering neutral was good in these scenarios because it shows them that you don't feel strongly about things which makes you easier to change to that companies way of thinking.
I applied for an online customer service job and when I read the fine print after I was offered the job, it said if you leave the company before six months of employment you would have to pay for the training. I called them up an declined the offer. Training costs are the responsibility of the company, not employee.
You missed my favorite. Years ago, when I was looking to relocate, I would run across these small items in the help wanted section looking for software professionals with at least 5 years of experience in the field along with expertise in two or three other professional disciplines. The best part was that they were offering at or below entry level for just one. If I had had the time, I might have responded just to see what kind of people these were. Now that I am retired, I may make responding to these a hobby. There is no better feeling than to interview for a job that you neither want nor need. I know this from experience but that is another story.
I did a internet search for an acronym once. I started being bombarded for offers for training in that acronym (I'm not saying because that would reveal the employer). I put a filter on my email to weed them out. One email squeaked through and it was a job opportunity, so I called for fun, got an interview and got the job. Good pay, doing something new for me in my field (electrical controls) and good pay. It was kinda 'experimental' in nature, modifying machines for environmental requirements. Did a couple modifications, did some work on the company's infrastructure, not hard work, and not much of it really. The regulations got relaxed, it became apparent to me that they didn't know what to do with me, I didn't really need the job, so I offered to quit. They called a big meeting, Owner/CEO, HR manager, my boss (VP of electric branch), etc . Wound up giving me a $4 an hour raise, told me to go home, put in 40 hours a week and they'll give me a call if they need me. 4 months or so, the day before all the COVID shutdowns, they laid me off. I wound up making more $ on UI and all than I was making while "working"! "Money for nothing"
Its actually WORSE than indentured servitude or even slavery. Indentured servants and slaves have to be fed, housed, clothed, and provided with medical care by their masters. These companies don't even do that. A lot of the reason companies have unpaid internships is that they often hire former interns as real paid employees and the unpaid internship serves as a filter to weed out applicants from poor and even middle class backgrounds, since only rich kids can afford to work for free. Its a way of keeping jobs reserved for the few; no matter how educated or qualified you are, they don't want you if you are not one of them.
A Servicenow developer with 5 years of experience would make 100k+. My guess it's an ad to say they looked for a US based candidate and nobody applied so they can either bring in an H-1B or overseas candidate.
Exactly. The Security company, Securitas does that in their IT department all the time, additionally, the IT VP at Securitas has a foreign employment service company that he personally makes money on every new foreign employee.
@@YoniLiron yes , but I guess they wanted the candidate to spend many additional hours typing himself endless reports , being also burdened by the work of a typical secretary.
I declined an offer about three months ago in large part due to a lot of the advice I've seen on this channel about red flags and interview prep. Yesterday, I started a fully remote job that pays $20,000 more than the previous offer. It took me three months longer, but I didn't have to sign a non-compete to work a below-market, entry-level job! Thanks for all of the great content!
Good for you. The ability to keep looking is valuable. Too many people grab the first offer because they have no savings or other income to pay bills while they look for the right position.
I laughed at my last employer. They want to pay me 14.00/hr to work security two hours away from me. Refused to compensate the commute with milage pay, and then called me lazy. I stood up, laughed, and wished them luck.
I had something with a company that interviewed for me for a position in Deerfield, about half an hour away. They hired me and I gave my two weeks notice. Then the next day they asked if I'd rather work in Round Lake, over two hours away. They called back several times saying "wouldn't you rather work in Round Lake?". Then the day before I was to start, they told me I needed to sign the "onboarding paperwork" which included a non-compete provision that I can't quit and go to work for another company doing the same type of work for two years or incur a penalty, and a provision that I can be transferred to another site at the employer's whim and if I refused I could be fired with cause and the two years would be starting when I left, along with non-disparagement clauses and other provisions. I know the first thing they would have done when I started was move me to Round Lake since they kept asking if I'd go there after they hired me for Deefield. The fact that they waited until after I had quit my previous job and was due to start to spring these clauses on me when they should have been part of the hiring really pissed me off. I refused and they said I couldn't start unless I signed the contract. Don't work for Baxter.
Arguably what’s worse than requiring too much experience, is requiring too little. I was offered a charge nurse job 6 months into my first nursing job. It’s becoming more and more common for nurses to have very little experience in high ranking positions because people with experience keep quitting. In healthcare, that’s potentially deadly.
Amen! I was a charge nurse 6 months out of school and I was the most senior on my shift! And most medical units are staffed primarily by nurses of less than 5 years experience because they overwork the nurses so bad that they either go to another specialty area or get additional education to become an NP, a PA, or an instructor. Retired now due to disability.
Based on your videos, I've declined a few offers because of "red flags." I've had mangers no call no show for a final interviews, directors having no idea who comp plans would work, and have been asked for give an hour presentation about a problem the business is facing.
I’ve had the same. From very high end level roles and salaries. I do not do work on presentations for free. I might do a 5 minute recap on info you’ve given me or a limited practicum, but not more. My thing is that I will kindly or jokingly say that-and employers hate being called out on what they’re doing! But I won’t enable. But yes, so many employers who do things he mentions in the video, and they all need to be made accountable. Or at least for yourself, avoid them!
I had given 6 rounds in a company, 2 long projects and wasted my 5 months and in the 6th and final round they had 10 completely new comers in the company with no idea of my presentation, some of them said they had bad internet and said they didn't understand my presentation coz of the internet. I offered to repeat the presentation but they said they said sorry they didn't have time and then rejected me and it was a fortune 500 company 🤷
These job postings are absolutely predatory and they're preying on desperate job seekers. As someone who recently left a position that was paying higher than average due to a very toxic boss and poor work enviroment it's important not to settle for bad employers of any type.
2 things I noticed about most of the job postings when I was looking for work: First, there were postings that had a lot of words but didn't actually tell you anything about the job. Telling me they had no idea how to write a job posting. Second, there were postings that basically said they were going to work you to death, but not pay crap for it. Bottom line, most job postings are a joke.
When someone hits you with "We're in a right-to-work state, this means we can fire you at any time, for any reason, or no reason at all. Do you understand this ?" 3 times during the first 15 minutes of the interview ... it does not bode well. Never did hear back from this one. I'm also quite fond of the many Entry-Level positions which require 3-4-5 years experience in a number of technologies. Oh, we require at least 3 years in Perl 5.8.x ... your 9 years experience in 5.6.x don't count.
I tried to tell people this when I first got a job after moving to OK (a right to work state). I was shocked at finding out that that's what the state is. And employees were shocked when I explained that to them and they didn't seem to like the fact that they were tricked and deceived into voting that 'right to work' policy into place. Too many people are fooled by the name & don't bother to find out what it really means!!
And then you have the case of Jimmy John's sub shops, who not long ago, made non-compete agreements part of the hiring documents for low wage workers. They wanted it both ways, and now have the nerve to say "no one wants to work anymore".
I am a mechanic and I see all jobs doing this also. They want you to know everything about every brand and do it all for 22 an hour. Yeah, no! I made that years ago, I'm not regressing in pay with the same output, no way. Any other job is typically lower than 15, and they never respond back. It is truly sickening what is going on in the market. A good one is the worker opportunity act credit. They won't hire you unless you qualify them for the 6000- 9000 dollar a year credit! How can a normal person compete with that?
@@johnwilliamson2393 I was offered $13 an hour as an experienced transportation dispatcher last week. I told that hiring manager that minus taxes wouldn’t pay my rent and walked out.
You know what i think would be a super helpful video? An interview demo! Get somebody to do a mock interview with and put a lot of what you've taught us this past year or so into practice for us to see.
I think a video of an interview would be nice. I feel like he would produce a good mock interview. I've tried looking some up and they the quality is so bad I can't get past it to pick up the good tips. And for someone with severe social anxiety watching examples helps more than just reading or listening for picking up tips.
As a small business (remodeling company), I agree these companies aren’t offering enough pay for the market. *On the other hand* , inflation- due to Biden- has devalued the dollar & made it hard to offer the pay workers need, while still maintaining profit
So in conclusion, what I’m doing is just doing all the admin/office work myself, and I just subcontract out to crews to complete the remodeling work and I hire a maid (subcontract, per job basis) to clean the office occasionally. Can’t afford employees right now
Also I didn’t think #3 (the one with requirements) was THAT bad, if you’re a good candidate and confident you’ll get the job it’s not that big of a deal
I remember that I applied for a job repairing sound equipment. The interviewer said that I would not only use my own vehicle but I would not be compensated for fuel and mileage. The interviewer was shocked and became angry when I turned down his “generous” offer.
There is this one company that offers a "Dell Driving Position" for $13/hour (although the last incarnation seems to have raised it to $15), 6-month temp job, bring your own car, drive 500 miles a week. They claim you do get mileage, but then you see the offer is 3 cents a mile, so $15 for the gas to drive 500 miles. I was spending $20/week on gas when I had to drive 15 miles to work, which 15*2*15=150 miles/week. I've been getting offers for this job for the last 10 years. Apparently they have offices in Naperville and Schaumburg, IL.
I had a colleague that I thought about bringing on as a subcontractor who expected me to reimburse his cell & auto expenses for local travel & work (this was for a predominantly remote IT consulting project, not sales, etc)....the nerve of that guy...we havent spoken since...
I have found you by accident and 60 years too late! I am now almost 80 and I wish that we had had such fantastically useful, insightful advice as yours. Although the wording was different back then, the basics are the same. There have always been crappy employers and, looking back, I have met a lot of them. I think your work should be compulsory reading/ course work in all secondary schools. (UK schools age 11 to 18). With a well educated work force the age of the rubbish employers could be cut short. Thank you, from all present and future employees.
As a nurse, what I’ve encountered are job posting that look good, you apply and realize it’s actually a healthcare recruitment company and the job they bait you in with doesn’t exist. What also happens often is that the recruiters don’t reveal the name of the hospital or facility until you get far into the interview process because of how badly reviewed they are, or how ridiculously high the turnover is.
Your comment about the start-up company was bang on. I was approached by two start-up companies, both offering $50k less than the market. They required a PhD degree and lots of experience on doing experiments and product development. They also demanded me to do work outside of this role like marketing and admin. Basically, they wanted a person that could do 3 jobs but would pay crap. I had enough self-respect to say no. Less than two years later, both companies no longer exist.
I applied for a job where the initial application took me about an hour. They assigned me the first vetting task which took me about six hours to complete. Then they assigned me the second vetting task which took me 3-4 hours to complete. I did not get an interview.
Ah, a review of the stupidity I was subjected to while looking for a job about a year ago. What a clown world we're living in now. Great video, thanks.
I remember seeing a job post online during the credit crunch period that made annoyed. The post was very demanding, requiring a huge number of skills with so many bullet points. Along with all the bad spelling and grammar, the last part said “You must have good written and verbal English.” Laughable 😂
The job posts I find crazy are the ones where they post 'Entry Level' jobs. I read the description and discover they are looking for a candidate with 2-3 years experience in an area or ideally you will have this, its ridiculous! Those job posts in the video cracked me up
I knew someone who worked for Teavana, and they operate on a similar "productivity management" model across all of their corporate-owned franchises... which is part of why I don't shop there any more. If sales dipped below expectations in any given hour, someone at corporate would call the franchise and give the employees a hard time, recommending all kinds of sleazy, devious, and predatory tactics to improve numbers. And with the store in the Midwest, the corporate callers based in warmer climates had zero sympathy for revenue disruptions due to snowstorms, so when the weather was bad, they were getting called almost every hour that they were open.
I'm on LinkedIn, and the other day a recruiter reached out to me for a 1 month contract with no guarantees, I was like who in the hell is going to jump through hoops for a 1 month contract?!
I'm a Recruiter and I just hired someone for a 13 week contact no guarantee they will hire perm and it took 1 month to get her onboarded and we made her pay for her TB test. I was shocked she didn't tell me to go f myself. Cause I know I would have. She finally starts tomorrow and it's only $14.50/hr. I hope after all of the that she gets offered perm and give her a raise. Also this bull crap no one wants to work is just that bull crap. People just want a livable wage is that really unreasonable?
That "Contract" job at the end, they probably meant that they were going to 1099 the person as well, which shifts the company's tax and FICA responsibilities to the employee, which would leave them with the equivalent of a $7/hr. job.
"We prefer you to intern, unpaid, for two years before we consider you.". Best one is the HR supervisor posted all positions in the company for hiring. ALL POSITIONS. When I asked they replied "Oh we just wanted to see if there was an interest in the career field.". Both instances were the same company.
Imagine going to bathroom and getting a call from your "productivity coach" while you are still on the can. "Yes sir. I am going to the bathroom sir. Right now, yes. I am just finishing up right now. Wiping my ass right now sir. Yes, I will be back in front of my computer in 10.5 seconds. Goodbye." No thank you. I think micro-managing doesn't go far enough in describing that kind of behavior.
I've heard a lot of issues with the "Do a presentation on this specific issue" job interviews. They've already decided to hire from inside but want ideas from better qualified people for the promoted drone to implement.
They only get away with it when we accept the job offers!! Yes! I have been saying that for the past couple months. I just recently went from a low quality employer to a high quality employer, and everything you’re saying is spot on
I turned down a job (an offer to keep the job) from the new owners of a company I'd been working for as the main IT tech, because they wanted me to drive a company van with tracking devices...plus some other stupid things they did. I knew every client's system, and when I left they had awful trouble keeping the clients happy. I'd been one guy and did it well; they had a team.
Re: the project one, I am a copywriter and when I was interviewing for my current job, I was given an assignment and told to track my time and submit an invoice at an hourly rate close to the pay of the position. In other words, if you make people work as part of the hiring process, pay them.
The one for the second round project (4th project) sounds like they want several "candidates" to give the company some good ideas for free. I bet none were hired and the company took the free work and ran with it.
Excellent point! One time a posting online stated they were UPS hiring for the holidays. I called & they pretended to have a hiring manager call me back. The "so called UPS recruiter" asked me for my address, birthdate, phone and social security. I stopped at the birthdate & social because this was a huge RED FLAG of identity theft. I told the recruiter, "I am happy to provide this information over a secure server on UPS but not on the phone.
I once went for an interview for a law firm who wanted each potential employee to spend a day working for them for nothing - that way they got a week's free work. I also worked once in a temp job where I did data inputting. They told me I needed to do twice as much as I was actually doing, which would have been impossible.
Many years ago I was approached by a job recruiter for a company. I won’t name them as they didn’t seem like a terrible employer, but here’s a red flag I remember. The interview started by telling me about the salary, which was extremely high. They then started talking about the total compensation of the job outside the pay. The point that I realized this job wasn’t for me was when they started talking about travel expenses. Now this would be a great job for someone who is single but not me. The job required someone to travel for 9 months out of the year all over the globe. Their biggest contracts were with companies in the Middle East and South America but they also did business in Egypt and Europe. I would be trained to be a subject matter expert and would be required to teach and to diagnose problems. Now for the money and the fact that all my travel expenses would be paid in full, plus the discretionary allowance, it hurt to turn down that job. But I realized after that day that if an employer starts talking money there is something wrong with the job.
I've been a web developer for 15 years and I've encountered a lot of red flags, hassles, or wastes of time. A few examples are coding tests (especially ones that take 1+ hour, much less 6+ hours) which seem to come up often, but certainly not all the time; having to apply for the job after being submitted by a recruiter, especially if I have to fill out every field manually despite having a resume with all that information; and having to modify my resume for the position in a ridiculous way (having to add my 'JSON experience' as the 'hiring manager' requires a lot of it - and trying to explain to them it's an inherent part of JavaScript and that's like detailing my keyboard experience with Word... If they don't know that, then I don't want to work for them.)
I was asked to do a coding test once for a research position that required a doctorate in science. Maybe they should have asked me to take part in a spelling bee while they were at it.
If I see positions like this I just don’t apply. If they don’t understand what they need from a candidate - they don’t understand how much his time is actually gonna worth
1. The company that was looking for an agile coach really really needs an agile coach based on the job advert. 2. I LOLed at the $11/hr for the software developer ad. I graduated 1.5yrs ago with a college diploma (effectively Canadian for Associate's Degree). Before I finished school I had a job lined up for about triple that and that's on the low side for a new grad (they have a very cool niche specialty and generous annual increases), a software dev with 5yrs experience is going to expect between 6-15 times what that job is offering.
Yeah I recently saw a software dev job ad for something like $12-13/hr... I was like PLEASE no one apply to that. I am studying programming and that just made my heart drop. Seriously wtf.
@@YTStoleMyUsername there are a lot of folks out there that don't understand how expensive programmers are. Rate varies quite a bit based on location, but $12/hr is not a realistic rate anywhere. Even as a student, my summer/coop jobs paid double that.
If that can be made remote someone will be extremely happy outside of the us. That is a high pay job on some places like my country, maybe the average for a java senior dev
Had a position where the contract said they could modify the pay without notice for any reason, massive red flag, always read contracts and never sign anything with this clause no matter how good it seems.
I just happened across this video because I was talking to my SO about the job I just started. They didn't tell me it was a contract until AFTER I had accepted the job, now that I am 1 week into training, it's been terrible. I've learned next to nothing, the class was 95 people in 3 different types of worker roles. So they didn't isolate my group until Friday, which THEN they began talking about our job role. They also assigned us cases from employees that were recently fired, they mentioned how 80% of the people hired for this job "Don't make it", threatened to lock us out of the Zoom Room if we turn our cameras off for longer than 5 minutes or didn't have it directly facing our faces, threatened to report misunderstandings and questions to higher ups and more. Needless to say, I will be leaving tomorrow. I respect myself too much to be treated this way and with almost no training. They expect us all to be ready this Wednesday yet I can't tell you how to navigate their systems yet. The rude instructor isn't a good trainer at all.
Just recently quit one of my first official jobs. My employer was rude, disrespectful and made jokes and statements about cutting other employee salaries in front of other employees. We also was forced to go to a company dinner event and the food wasn't cooked to their liking so they literally started berating the staff their and the boss himself made jokes loudly about wanting to go to McDonalds along with staff following in it. I was so embarassed and felt so bad for the woman who had to deal with them and simmer them down, there was a lot of people there at the time, but it's so disrespectful. I eventually quit a month or so afterwards they were never extremely bad towards me, but still enough that I didn't wanna stay that long.
OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS!! You just validated all the times I have shaken my head in disbelief at some of the trashy habits these wannabe-employers have. I can only assume they have no idea how to hire and keep hiring the wrong people when they list out all those infantile instructions to follow just to apply. I have a friend who worked for one of those companies that had a tracking program on her computer. Absolutely horrid. A former manager was flown out of state to get a psychological assessment for a middle-management position... I mean, who is running this circus? I have shut down applications in the middle of filling stuff out when it just got to be too ridiculous.
Remember that Seinfeld episode where the boss fires Kramer and Kramer says "well I don't even really work here" Boss says "that's what makes this even more difficult". lol.
You ought to do a similar collection not of ads, but of stories from people who got hired for jobs that didn't exist. I had a friend who knew his stuff inside out, upside down, and backwards, and still had to jump through all kinds of hoops and multiple interviews before finally getting a decent offer from a big IT firm he was happy to accept. He was just finishing breakfast & getting ready to leave for his FIRST day at the new job when the phone rang -- it was the company's HR department telling him that they had just received notice they did not win the contract that they had specifically hired him for in order to meet the minimum requirements to be able to bid on... so he had no job, thanks for your interest, goodbye. Of course it was the first he'd heard anything about that particular aspect of the job offer.
Been looking for work for 5 yrs. I have a job, just want a better one, but these are the kinds of things I run into constantly. My mother just keeps telling me "everyone is hiring", but these are horrible jobs. I won't even apply if it isn't better than what I have already. I'm not crazy, thank you
Their is a huge difference between the quantity of companies hiring and a quality job. I know so many people who are qualified but can’t get hire because of too old over qualified too expensive etc. Companies want to hire but don’t want to pay above minimum wage or just over minimum. Plus for entry level jobs: applicants are required to have 3/5 years experience and Bachelors / Masters degrees. It’s not worth moving to be a worse position
I just saw an event production position with a laundry list of responsibilities and then in CAPS they wrote that you were expected to be available 24/7…for $30k. Buddy, I wouldn’t even do it for 6 figures let alone for minimum wage. This was in LA 😂
I was a part of the pre-interview assessment test. After the test, I got the interview. But then I realize this. The employer tried to get free work from 3rd recruiter and the candidates. They had a business problem that they try to find solutions. The assessment test and the interview are the tools for them to get solutions.
Got all the way to the final interview before they told me it was commission only. I firebombed the interview at that point. And as it was a joint interview everyone else they wanted to hire got to see me calling the employers liars. I doubt they took the job after that.
I recall doing a data entry job that printed labels from the computer. The supervisor would get a read out on every employee that showed the exact time a label was printed. The supervisor would go through your entire readout over the 8 hours and add up all the minutes in between printing labels. Then she would bring you into the office to tell you and you would have to tell her why there were time gaps between labels.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff how do you feel about employers who have 4 page job posts? I see this a lot in my role in the nonprofit realm. I laugh because many times it’s that they want 1 person to do 3 people’s roles. Sometimes they just are lost on how to post, and that’s something to read between lines on.
I was a prime candidate for a job for a contractor that did help desk support for a major company. I was about to take the job, and while talking to the recruiter, I mentioned that I would need to be off a partial day for my son's high school graduation, which was a couple of weeks away on a weekend. They could not guarantee that I could be off that day but said I would get fired if I missed a day because it was "mandatory training". I declined the job at that point. I have a fantastic work ethic and I rarely miss work, but there was no way I was going to miss my son's graduation, that I notified them about during the hiring process. To me that was a huge red flag that they would be a very unforgiving employer. In hindsight, I probably would have lost my job because my grandmother passed shortly after that. My new employer for the job I ended up with was very considerate and had no problem with me taking a day off for a funeral, and I continued to work there for another five years.
I was so happy to see the legal admin posting! So many of those postings have dumb requirements. I think it’s the law firm culture. They want to be sure the person they are hiring has no self worth so they can treat them poorly and know they’ll get away with it. The law firm caste system is real but at least is starting to change.
Ah the productivity coach :) Had that once and made sure it backfired hard towards them ;) When working a dreadfull callcenter job I had regular meetings with internal auditors. It always went the same. I didn't follow their holy script (because it didn't cover half the problems and was always outdated) and had my phone on 'busy' to long after a call. - About the script they told me to provide feedback, which I usually did untill I found out they didn't do anything with it - About busy I told them I won't hold up expensive hourly executives so I could finish registering my call properly (30 seconds is not enough for complicated issues which require escalation). Then one day they told me I came back from lunch 15 minutes too early on average for about half a year. I grinned and promised them I'll be compliant on this account. The next (and last) 6 months I made sure to compensate those 15 minutes for the past 6 months as well so they 'wouldn't have to pay all that overtime'. So every smoke break, lunch or whatever I took my sweet time doing it :)
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come on dude the $11 an hour IT expert is not a position in the United States it's in the Philippines or India or some thing
You also said "if you're that hard up to get experience" the required experience for the job is a minimum of five years… A.k.a. it's not a position to get experience you already have to have experience
Are many of these “jobs” based in a large, Asian country?
Curious, did you report these ads to any labor board?
These are also used to scam people to steal identity etc.
These are so crazy, I would be afraid to meet them!
"This is a temporarily non-paid position."
Well then, I'm a permanently non-interested person.
Bravo!
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Well that's why office supplies mysteriously disappear
Many job postings go like this: Looking for someone smart enough to do this job but dumb enough to work for the pay we offer.
Great point
I've seen quite a few personal ads like this as well. They're looking for a woman gorgeous and sexy and young enough or a man smart and successful and tall enough for their standards, who's dumb enough to settle for the little the ad writer has to offer. They don't begin to describe why anyone so desirable would want to be with them: the ad is entirely and obliviously about their own demands.
HRs job is to find the most qualified applicants willing to work for the least amount of money.
@@mctransportation9831 True, but the degree to which HR concentrates on one side or the other of that equation is what makes a company crappy or not. Some places focus so exclusively on cutting payroll that they seem to nearly forget realistic qualifications altogether. Others like to keep wages low but are willing to go up for a really well-qualified candidate, so they don't publish insanely low offers to begin with.
It can also be “desperate enough” as well.
A growing population, shrinking job market is a recipe for abuse and exploitation.
The working class already lost a lot its power in this Capitalist pyramid economy.
I'm actually tempted to apply to one of these unpaid remote jobs, pretend work is being done, but do nothing and when the deadline comes, just say "you get what you payed for".
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It’s PAID. Not payed. Payed is a word associated with a maritime context.
@@g2whatbrodie283 You expect proper english at that price point? :D
Edit: I would probably add a _lot_ more spelling mistakes to the reply, just in hope of getting the "who tf signed off on hiring that!!" discussion rolling :) Though also not from my normal email adress :D
@@g2whatbrodie283 nerd.
@@plapperkfr2045 😂That irritated me, too, but your answer is solid gold.
It's amazing that even with the labor shortage, companies are still pulling the same BS - micromanaging, low pay, insane interviewing processes (personality tests, drug tests, multiple interviews for shitty pay).
EXACTLY! I have 12yrs of nursing experience. Interviewed for a nursing home. Was personally attacked and spoken to like trash. All bcuz of my work history. If a nursing home is crap I put notice and leave. Guess according to them I should stay at bad jobs. She barked that they only hire ELITE nurses who never quit. Google reviews are deplorable and they’re begging on indeed for every single shift/position 💅🏼
Currently my situation! 😆😆😆😅😆😅 the dumb hoops and loops they make you go through, to pay below minimum wage
And then they complain nobody wants to work? Nobody wants to get ripped off. 😂
@Armos Velney They won't even pay enough to live on.
Literally turned down a job because the stupid process and they baited me in the end with a lower position. Such an insult.
Found a job that interviewed me and sent me an offer letter in a couple days. No bullshit. Love my job now.
Oh another I asked for the salary range and they have refused to tell me. But told me to meet with them so I can discuss it further with them. Lol 🤣
I'll Never forget this one job that tried to recruit me right out of college that clearly takes advantage of the young and inexperienced. When I showed up for the in person interview, found out it was Monday- Saturday from 11am-7pm (Impossible to hold down a second job with those hours) 100% commission with target pay at a whopping $49k (2016 Dollars). I explained to them that I made more as a Bartender working 4-5 nights/ week. Then, the "director" who was extremely cold and abrupt asked me on the spot if I want the job, and I combated him about how benefits we're never even discussed and he retorted "You're 22, aren't you still under your parents health insurance"? I left immediately after that.
Where do you live? $49k sounds like a lot of money, especially in 2016. And you were making more as a bartender? How 😭
@@duneeaaasha I live in NY. Bartenders here can make $60-$100k and I don’t even live in the City. I probably cleared $55-60k my last year of college, while bartending.
@@duneeaaasha Also, for context, I ended up leaving the restaurant industry to work in sales anyway. Most sales positions have a base salary and make way more than $49k. I would never work that hard and grind to make that little on 100% commission w no benefits. The job I took instead of this offered $48k base (guaranteed) w benefits and I was promoted with a 20% raise within 8 months.
That 49k is if and only if you meet all sales targets...it was 100 percent commission based. Thats awful@@duneeaaasha
sounds like one of those Vector marketing companies
Productivity tracking is the devil. I need to get up and move around, go to the bathroom, take a personal call, etc. periodically. I do these things at my current job (both when I’m on site or working remote) and no one cares. I’ve had employers who have micromanaged my time (one while I was pregnant) and I left them in the dust. I’m a grown up, as long as I get my work done and do it well, sit down and leave me be.
That's my management strategy. I don't have the time or desire to micro manage my staff. I expect my staff to get things done without me having to monitor everything. I definitely make sure great training exists for the given positions, but then it's yours to do. Meet your deadlines with high quality, you're rarely gonna have me checking on you. I hire for people that don't need to be micromanaged or hand held all the time ( and some need or want it).
Right, I will NEVER work for an employer who wants to control my every move.
@@johniii8147 That sounds good, as long as your "deadlnes" are reasonable !
Yeah, I'd tell them to get lost. Give me a concrete metric I need to meet. If I meet it and took 5 bathroom breaks an hour, I don't want to hear anything about it.
Thats the one few good things about American culture is that we don't like authority or obedience. In Japan if the boss says jump, the employee will jump
My 15 year old nephew was getting yelled at on his third day of his very first job. I’m glad he understood that wasn’t acceptable and walked out! He’s been fine at his second job for months now. They don’t abuse him there.
What job was it?
@@handsomesquidward5160 I'l guess something in retail
Very good, even kids deserve better than this!
I hope you are proud of him. He recognized that that was an abusive job and was mature enough to be able to walk out of it and not accept it. Some teens stay there believing this is a normal part of the job. When it is not normal.
Just recently quit one of my first official jobs. My employer was rude, disrespectful and made jokes and statements about cutting other employee salaries in front of other employees. We also was forced to go to a company dinner event and the food wasn't cooked to their liking so they literally started berating the staff their and the boss himself made jokes loudly about wanting to go to McDonalds along with staff following in it. I was so embarassed and felt so bad for the woman who had to deal with them and simmer them down, there was a lot of people there at the time, but it's so disrespectful. I eventually quit a month or so afterwards they were never extremely bad towards me, but still enough that I didn't wanna stay that long.
General rule: Never apply to a “professional” job posting that has more than one typo.
Some of these sound a read like an overseas scam designed to procure personal data from unsuspecting and desperate people.
One of the job offers to avoid is the one where you are promised high earnings working from home. All you need to do is buy a kit for say $50 to get you making their product which you then submit to them. But they will always reject it as substandard. They've got your money.
It really says more about the American education system...
@@lopoa126 Um no it says more about the culture of online jobs. This is a worldwide issue of predation on online job postings. Especially if you consider it's a very new issue that previous generations nowhere on the planet could have feasibly been prepped for.
@@lopoa126 Actually, it says more about shitheads taking advantage of a labor force that's been exposed to working remotely in the past year or so. A lot of job postings during the COVID shutdown were remote positions, so it doesn't seem weird to see remote positions still being offered.
Your comment had a typo
This happened a few years back. Someone I know got his Graphic Arts college degree. He was looking for his first position in this field after college. He applied at a local newspaper who had an opening for a graphic artist. He went through the interview and job applicants were given the assignment to create an ad and they would use that as a part of the selection process. His assignment was to create an ad for a specific car. He was notified that the position was filled by another applicant. He put in a lot of work and was disappointed. When the next issue of the newspaper came out he saw his ad. It was a large and prominent ad. There was no compensation and he felt taken advantage of. He was not expecting the ad to be used unless he was hired. Sad.
Apparently this is becoming common practice for programmers and engineers.
I don't know much about the legal side with unpaid work, but if the employer is profiting from a person's work then they need to be compensated. This seems like he could take the employer to court over this.
This is why, as a designer, I never do this unless it’s a paid assignment. It is a waste of my time.
When I started doing contract work, after years of experience, I was asked something similar. I just told them I'd provide something generic, but if they wanted my help on their projects they needed to hire me. None of those companies were serious about hiring anyone, they just wanted fresh ideas to steal.
@@justhereforagoodtime88And THAT'S not expensive. (BIG eyeroll)
Really tired of everyone yelling SUE over every shitty thing anyone has done to them.
Lawyers are expensive. Small claims court could be an option. But that's time consuming, and this guy would lose.
Also, be aware and alert for companies that offer a “sign on bonus”. They are huge red flags. Those companies do not give all of the money upfront, they split the entire bonus in obnoxious installments over a huge length of time to insure that you “keep working”. Therefore, it’s not a bonus at all, but an exaggerated “pay increase”.
Assuming they even pay it in the first place.
Even reputable employers don't pay it at once since those hired abused when they did. Sonhospitals offer the sign on over 4 months.
Remote jobs based overseas can get away with evading labor laws.
I actually did receive a $10K sign on bonus upfront at the first hospital I worked at right out of nursing school. However, I would have to pay it back if I left my employer within 36 months of being hired. I stayed 39 months, then got a higher paying position in another state in Pediatrics.
The sign on bonus is a joke. Do you think they calculate that into your annual raise?
After several rounds of interviews. I was offered a job. They said it is salary and mandatory 50 hours a week. It was at least $20k below industry standard pay. They asked if 50 hours a week was a problem. I said yes. I was told I could work 40 hours but not to tell anyone else. Then they told me they have a hard time getting people to accept their jobs. I said “Well you under pay and expect more hours.” I declined the job.
HI, yes that is another new "trick of the trade", some employers are doing the " do what you need to do to finish the job " which translates to do the hours it takes free.
So currently the working day will vary from 8 to 10 hours a few hectic days is 12 hour days or work at home after dinner for a few hours
Jobs that pay salary are NOT legally supposed to track hours. That is why it is a salary. They can only give you a general range of how the workload looks. It is also carefully regulated to avoid people using salary as a way to avoid paying overtime. Certain jobs can't be salaried positions.
The funny part is that you probably declined a job just because of the social reason that they said other people were declining it. Low IQ people are so funny with the way they work lol. If they said everybody wants to work there you’d probably happily accept 😂
@@charlesg7926 if the company themself who’s best interest is to glamorize their business and workplace to gain new hires, says that that the position is subpar why would anyone want to work there afterwards? That’s a very questionable thing to hear especially if it’s coming from the employer themselves, because it goes AGAINST their bias. Of course if the company said it’s a great workplace that’s not as a credible statement because it is working in their bias.
@@lillgill156 you don’t sound like a very trusting person, sadly. How much do you make a year?
Musicians and artists have been complaining about this for years. People want to get free performances or art work from them, in exchange for "exposure". Exposure doesn't pay bills and has shown up on many death certificates.
Bloggers and journalists, as well. Writing 1500+ word articles for a more established blogger, or any type of article for an established paper, but nothing but "exposure" to show for it... And that's assuming they even publish it.
@@justinblair9661 the situation that you mention is a common theme in Ernest Hemingway's "A Moveable Feast", stories from his time in Paris, while working as a freelance journalist and writer.
@@ashleydoyle9820 I don't understand what you're saying. My hope is that it's relevant to this conversation.
@@justinblair9661 no, sorry i must've typed that on accident lol . But I did leave a public comment to the video and I had a question, can you help answer when you see it
Yesssss
I interviewed at a fairly big brand gym for a personal trainer position. I come highly qualified with over 10 years experience.
They offerd me $12.50 per hour...
I actually laughed at the interviewer and let them know how insulting that was and how displeased I was for them wasting my time.
This stuff is everywhere.
Thats a yikes from me, dawg
In my profession, it's like pulling teeth to get an interviewer to reveal what their willing to pay. You go through the interview, and they ask your salary expectation, hoping that you undersell yourself. If you ask for what you actually want, they typically ghost you, not wanting to negotiate at all. You've basically wasted both your time and the interviewer's time on a "non-starter" salary issue. This is however, not always the case, as in a few jobs in the past they either negotiated openly, or offered me more than what I asked. That's the sign of a good employer.
$12.50 when you have a decade of experience?! Good lord.
I would’ve laughed at their faces too if that was me 🤣
If you really have 10 years of experience, then you can make way more money working on your own. When I was 18 years old w/ no experience, I posted craigslist ads for personal training, and people paid me $50 per session to drive to them and train them. I could easily make $200 in 5 to 6 hours (including driving times).
Worked at a golf course where the owner told employees at a meeting that "it is a privilege to work here". He also mentioned to the golf course maintenance staff that its better job than most because "where else can you get a free workout and a tan?" I had to bite my lip to prevent myself from bursting into a laughing fit, and he was dead serious! The owner also thinks he knows what customers want. I checked business reviews on google and they are mostly negative lol.
Kohls department store was pretty bad. They duped me into thinking I was coming for an interview only to show up to a room filled with at least 8 other applicants… It was a “group interview” but they didn’t disclose that to me, and it was only one of a series of interviews, tests, and screenings for a crappy part time low paying job. These people need to get over themselves. Smh
People should also be aware of phrases like “competitive pay” and “excellent benefits” usually this means neither is being offered
Worked on the sales floor for this company for about a year. Was glad to leave, all I'm gonna say.
Productivity keystroke tracking. That's a hard pass for me dog.
Wonder if one can just have notepad up and write gibberish to spoof the surveillance program.
As an IT worker, I would uninstall that s**t or find away to change group policy.
@@AdmiralBison
You need privileges to do that and generally that would lead to immediate termination. You should know that already. . .
@@Delimon007 yeah I do know this, which is a good thing I haven’t told you which companies I worked for.
Not difficult for me to “borrow” AD permission groups from my higher ups or managing whatever firewall/av server I have access to.
what do you mean, who wouldn't want the Stasi in their living room monitoring literally every single button press?
(Obvious sarcasm here)
I'd get an actual dog to go wild on the keyboard while I take some much-needed break if that's the case. Micromanaging to that level is insane!
These type of companies are more interested in monitoring their employees rather than focusing on the business and improving their products and services
Exactly. I want to know who is monitoring the productivity of the "productivity coaches." This all sounds like someone fell for what a consulting firm pitched.
too big to fail lol but yes the worse the jobs get, the more they become like slaveowners, and part-time/remote is ideal for me. 13:45 the virtue signalling is ridiculous, first 500 company for equal pay lol every job I work women supervisors.
if they spent half the frigging money they spend spying on and bullying employees on product/service r & d or increase employee remuneration they'd be better off altogether. Murrican mgmt is dead from the neck up. they deserve to fail.
Monitoring their employees probably IS the business.
Squeeze the workers dry of productivity and then replace them with next years batch of lemon limes.
It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Act like your employees are stupid children, and your employees will eventually have so little respect for you that they'll happily relax on company time. A respectful employer can get even the laziest person to try harder.
I heard of a guy that kept getting in trouble for "lack of productivity" because the employee monitoring system wasn't seeing very much mouse movement from him. The thing is is that he was one of the most productive employees but just didn't use the mouse much, instead using faster methods like keyboard shortcuts and Vim.
Of course the management doesn't care, they just see that he's clicking the mouse less than everyone else therefore he's doing less work.
Employers are often stupid when it comes to IT.
@@TheMazinoz 😂
That would be fantastic! If I got a review like that, I'd install an app to click the mouse constantly whenever I'm not at my desk. I'd be employee of the month every month.
It's what happens when an IT related company has supervisors that probably the only thing they know about computers is how to check the email.
I'd just play a game and reroute a copy of the mouse inputs to the software.
I one time interviewed for a legal internship. I had a bachelor's degree in Engineering and I was a second year law student already, and they asked me if I had an MBA. It was a low paid internship and they wanted a lawyer with an MBA and an Engineering degree.
I worked at a place that wanted me to be an EXPERIENCED HR Director and a Senior Accountant. I was hired as the accountant, but they added HR after....then two additional lead roles. No training. Oh, wait....the person that helped me with their accounting policies was my predecessor they knew was a problem.
Required a LOT of OT. NO comp time, no $$$, nothing except constantly critical.
I know quite a few engineering firms that want you to have a Masters for an entry level position. I also know people that have started working in the third world just to work in their field.
I still remember the job posting that wanted 5 years experience in a coding language that was only 2 years old at the time of the posting.
That's just hilarious 😂. They want an MBA and a engineering guy and a lawyer might as well just call god himself for that job.
This happened to me:
I was offered the position of CTO (Chief Technical Officer) to build the startup's product from scratch. But wait! No salary. Okay... equity? The founder offered me 1%. Totally blew my mind.
my wife was offered a job at a Chinese food restaurant... they said she had to work 2 weeks with no pay for training. she of course declined, that shit was a joke.
Isn't that illegal? They should be reported
Please report them, that's illegal.
I’m thinking that’ll be the wave of the future given current government policies that refuse to enforce immigration laws. We will all be fighting for a job soon enough and expected to take low pay or no pay for training.
In the restaurant industry, they use to it "staging" as if a chef could try-out for his position on the busiest nights. For free. It's illegal now
Training, by law, must be compensated just like work.
After two interviews with one company, they told me they will be setting up an additional 8 (eight) rounds. I declined to pursue the job. This is abusive behaviour and needs to stop. If a company cannot make their minds about a candidate after 3-4 interviews, they should outsource that work to someone who can do the job.
This is likely a psychological trick. If you do so much to get the job it makes you believe it is really important to you to get the job. In this position you loose all leverage in contract negotiations.
Agreed. Thats insane!
A lot of companies will sell their "hiring data" to other companies. Just like Facebook selling data.
Sounds a way to get free labor
EIGHT? Wtf?
The only bigger waste of time than being micromanaged by a "productivity coach" is being a "productivity coach".
Also, yes, in New York City "unpaid internships" are illegal.
And still rampant
In India we've paid internships alright, as in WE pay the companies for interning there. 😅
I wish I knew that in University. The college didn't even warn us either!! It's illegal?!?!
@@cameroncannon3175 I think it was within the last decade
Yes slavery is illegal
I've been at the same job for 14 years with an Associate's degree and am not currently looking elsewhere, however I do look at what types of opportunities other companies are offering just to have an general idea. I'm amazed at the amount of hoops some of these companies want you to jump through JUST TO APPLY! I could read the instructions to put together a whole dresser and a bookshelf from IKEA and have it all done by the time I finish reading the job description. All I can do is laugh when I see places offering $15-$19 an hour and they're requiring a Bachelor's degree plus 5 years experience. That's just so adorable.
Same😂
I saw a job listed in a programming language requiring 5 yrs experience with it. It was less than 2 yrs old at the time.
Also they offered half of what the norm was.
A job posting said that the job required no experience. I showed up to the interview and they proceeded to tell me that the job DID require experience but that they were willing to hire me for a significantly lower wage and a different position. I noped out of there because that was their awful way of getting people to actually come in
I’m a nurse and a hiring bonus can be a red flag to me. If there are several healthcare facilities in one area and only 1-2 are offering a hiring bonus; avoid that place like the plague!
Thanks for the heads up
I was offered a 20k sign on bonus at a hospital in rural ny. They flew me in for the interview. I declined. Hospital, and town were less than ideal to say the least.
Yep. These travel jobs offering $4000 a week for med surg nurses. Noooooo, thanks!
@@StellaPlayss I'm a traveling MT. $3000/wk for 3 months I can do. I know the place is going to be a hot mess but it's temporary and excellent compensation for my inevitable frustration.
yup. my last job included a hiring bonus....a year later, they laid me off (and 30+ others) because of covid....before covid even reached us, and a month later they got a PPP loan somehow. I was pissed at first, but now I'm grateful I'm no longer with them.
During the recession in the 90’s, I took on a part-time seasonal temporary data entry job (2nd job to supplement my income). We had to enter credit card payments for Citibank. It was in the summer and 90 degrees and up at that time. The building was huge and air conditioner was extremely cold. They provided “free coffee “, the air was blowing through vents down our backs and it was freezing in there. So naturally I was drinking the coffee to “warm up” , and caused me abc other to go to the bathroom multiple times (between freezing temperatures & coffee). I had to bring a sweater in the middle of the summer to this job. What made it worse is the bathroom was far away from our work space, at least 15 minutes one way to the bathroom! So the supervisor asked to speak to me about my multiple trips to the bathroom. I told her that they need to turn the air conditioner down, frigid temperatures causing everyone to make extra trips to the bathroom. She told me I had to cut down the bathroom trips. I told her it wasn’t intentional, that I came there to work not be in the bathroom so much. Even brought a sweater in the middle of the summer to maintain my body temperature. I asked did she want I doctors note since they wouldn’t turn down the air conditioner. She told me that she didn’t want a doctors note and they would monitor my bathroom trips. I called the temp agency and told them I quit that job assignment. Not my real job wasn’t going to accept their abusive inhumane treatment. This is why people are quitting across the country, these employers don’t know how to treat employees!
Drinking coffee to warm up might be the most ridiculous excuse for half hour bathroom breaks I've ever read.
This is part of the reason I left my job a couple weeks ago. They keep the building freezing cold (making sure to keep productivity up?) so I'd wear my winter coat in the office while the outside temperature was 90+ degrees. They had very strict schedule adherence rules as well, so even taking a 5 minute bathroom break outside of the set schedule could result in a written warning. If people are at risk of losing their jobs for meeting their own basic human needs, something really needs to be addressed with these businesses.
@@tkell31 How so. If it’s freezing cold and you need to warm up to prevent getting sick then why is it a ridiculous excuse to go to the bathroom. It’s not the employees fault if the bathroom is 15 minutes away which ends up causing 30 minute bathroom breaks. It’s the employers who are unnecessarily not accommodating their employees. It’s not difficult to install an new bathroom that is closer or to increase the temperature to something more comfortable.
Cold temps keep people from falling asleep.
@@jillibeens57 makes me more likely to doze off tbh. Never understood that.
FedEx had a driver job. Had to have excellent credit. You had to buy the van owner operator style. Problem is it has to be painted with their logo. Problem is, unlike 18 wheel owner operators, the resale market for your van is thin. You are responsible for fuel and maintenance on this van. I declined. I don’t want to pay for their van.
Smart. If you're going to run a delivery service you'd hang out your own shingle. :)
That would be FedEx Ground. They employ independent contractors.
@@johnathanstephenson8107 no way. I pride myself in my integrity.
@@johnathanstephenson8107 so you are encouraging a federal Felony charge for insurance fraud. I would not be posting such recommendations online
@@johniii8147 oh yeah, because people totally don't go online and tell lies. And totally get life advice from TH-cam comments.
You must be new to the internet.
Also avoid the "volunteer" job trap. This is the one where people suggest while you are looking for a paying job to get out there and take a volunteer position. What happens is they work you full hours with no pay, no benefits, high demand, keep you so busy you can't actually look for a real job. They are more than happy to keep using your free labor with no possibility of getting hired ever. You may actually train others who they hire.
I was applying to a position at a venture capital firm where one of their application questions, before any guarantee of interview, was for me to identify a company that would be a good acquisition for their portfolio and explain why. I responded with "I have an opportunity in mind that I would be glad to share my perspectives on during an interview." Needless to say, I never reached the interview stage but avoided doing free work or give them any leads coming from my IP.
I would told them ….” , I got a book of them, which I actually follow , but I keep my notes on my black book at home , and locked up. “.
And watch their reaction.
I'm a basic electronics assembler/soldering tech. Almost ALL these jobs are sourced via temp agencies. For a while I assumed I was disposable and "just a temp" but then I realized that if I hated a particular workplace, I could simply call my agency and be re-assigned somewhere else, until I found a fun team with good vibes. I've gone temp-to hire three times, at great jobs lasting over a decade. ALWAYS claim your power!
I was self employed for 20 years, coronavirus shut me down so I took a job with an established company. Everything I was told about every aspect of the job was a complete lie, I gave it a year I really like some of my co workers, but there was a reason I worked for myself for 20 years. After the holidays I will be self employed again and never go back, I gave it a shot and feel bad for people stuck in crappy jobs.
Good for you going back to self employment. May I ask in which field do you work?
@@ThomasBomber I’m going to build my own rental properties I was hired as project manager for a fairly large cabinet supplier but they are liars, I should have read the Glassdoor reviews. I’m in south east North Carolina and this is the last piece of undeveloped real estate on the east coast. I’ve been in the home building business for 30 years
If you lied on your application form they’d call you out. Hypocrites
When you need a paycheck to survive, there will always be job postings like this, because it's an inherently unequal arrangement. When you say you gotta be pretty desperate to apply for these jobs, well yeah, that's exactly what happens. This perpetuates the antiquated notion that it doesn't matter how shitty a job is, you should still be "grateful" for the job.
Shitty jobs can be great placeholders while you search for your dream job.
@@wmason1961Hardly. They drain you enough that you don’t have the stamina to keep working on your dream job. Getting yelled at and micromanaged for stupid things only takes away from any energy you might have had in the evening. Decent jobs are great placeholders.
When I left my last IT job, I checked back on them and saw their job ad. They increased their requirements and I longer qualify for my old position. I held the place together (nearly single-handedly) for 7 years. The kicker: just before I left, we upgraded all the systems and the job got immensely easier than the bulk of the time when I worked there.
Back in 2020 I had a phone interview with a Dialysis company for a tech position, went well. Couple of months later an in person interview that went even better, then nothing.......totally ghosted(no thanks but no thanks/sorry we went with another person, no contact whatsoever and trying to contact them was an exercise in futility). A few days ago I get an email from said company stating that my Resume matched what they are looking for( i.e. want to play a game again). I emailed the recruiter to politely inform them that #1 Thanks but no thanks, I am not interested in being ghosted again. #2 My time is to important to be wasted by such an unprofessional/rude employer. I can only imagine how they treat the workers they have.
Did they reply to this?
They may have a bunch of resumes. They hire someone as a casual, sack them so don't have to pay benefits, pick up another resume and do the same. Some employers are ars..es
A big problem I have with employers is hiding the pay (I’ve already heard all the reasons) and masking sales jobs as “customer service.”
They often hide the pay with the usual "We offer a Competitive Salary". It's really annoying because if you don't know what the salary is how do you know it's going to be worth your while applying for the job or not and the companies then wonder why nobody is applying for the job posted.
Oh!! My biggest pet peeve
@@samanthahardy9903 word
@@samanthahardy9903 The only thing they're doing is competing with each other to see who can pay the least without violating the law.
I don't even bother applying for those jobs. There are plenty of legit jobs out there. Reasonable employers tell you pay, days of work, hours, location etc
I have half the mind to create a bot to submit cover letters to all these posts that are under $15/hr and tell them that McDonnalds pays higher wages then they do lol.
And repeat the submission every 2-3 hours with different names of sender , just to fill up their e-mail postbox. This would be a good and socially useful punishment for such hoax employers .
I think that’s a good idea. These postings are completely laughable
Do it! 🤣
@@denisebaldwin9292 let's just ban the H1B visa program all together.
A ditch digger gets 12 to 15
16:25 THIS. When employers expect employees to be as invested as the owners of the company that is absolutely ridiculous. Unless you are giving out profit sharing or equity stake in your company, there is zero reason for any employee to be held to that expectation.
Some people need to hear things like this more.
Because so many people don't know where to draw the line.
Givers need boundaries, because takers have none.
This. 100% this.
I saw a job advert for an IT company that said the person applying must undertake 3 months of unpaid training before being considered. Then, if they "passed" the training, then the employee would have to pay back the money for that training over 24 months through instalments directly from their wage! Who tf would take that!!!
The $11/hr dev job listing is so that company can bring in someone on an H1-B visa.
"There are not enough skilled workers in the local market"
True !! Can't find anyone here :)
And still have to hire an american anyway to clean up their mess and save their product later
So America doesn't have minimum requirements to bring somebody on a H1-B visa? When I was looking at a job in the UK I noticed they had a list including the minimum wage you must be making to be allowed to come. In the end I found it too much effort with brexit etc though; but it's a good system to ensure employers can't abuse the systems to underpay people.
@@dodopson3211 correct. America has no high bar of entry for H1B visas... I've been in tech since the 90s and when I think about the number of jobs that were offshored or outsourced it smacks me as criminal. I know of a major pharma company here locally that the requirement to be a ful time and not temp or contractor in their it department means you had to have come in on an h1b.. it literally is people from India running their entire IT department.
For the "Second Round," I've heard that it's a way for companies to get free work. They say your project was okay and they'll call you later. They never call and later, you see your work being used in their business. Glad you're exposing these fools. I thought it was just me and my bad luck that I ran into such people.
That's just asking for a security liability
Never ever do homework interviews. Any company that requires you to do homework interviews, you should immediately run out the door.
Because its exactly how you described it, they will have people do a homework interview, because the other incompetent people in the company can't figure it out.
And once you do figure it out, you will be ghosted by the company and they got free work and solution. This is why you should NEVER do homework interviews for anyone.
It's a classic in software jobs
I have an invoice template for this very situation; $120/hr ($100/hr pre-pandemic); 10hr minimum. The few times a company agreed to contract me, I got the work done in under 6hrs. Taxes tore my ass up tho.
Whoah! I never thought of it that way! So devious and kinda genius at the same time. I hope people don't fall for this type of crap.
I recently applied at a large chain pet store. Had to take a 15 minute "work DNA profile" assessment. Questions like (strongly disagree to strongly agree) "I feel making friends at work is important". I answered every question with "neutral". Apparently, that's the right answer because they sent me a report showing I was in the most preferred range in all areas of work behavior. They still didn't offer me an interview. I wonder why? 🤔
It's because you were too indecisive. :-)
@@BronzeDragon133 but I do appreciate the chance to be psychologically profiled, for the honor of catching crickets with a fish net. 🤗
In college we had someone come to talk to us that said answering neutral was good in these scenarios because it shows them that you don't feel strongly about things which makes you easier to change to that companies way of thinking.
Probably because they had no strong feelings one way or another.
same
I applied for an online customer service job and when I read the fine print after I was offered the job, it said if you leave the company before six months of employment you would have to pay for the training. I called them up an declined the offer. Training costs are the responsibility of the company, not employee.
You missed my favorite. Years ago, when I was looking to relocate, I would run across these small items in the help wanted section looking for software professionals with at least 5 years of experience in the field along with expertise in two or three other professional disciplines. The best part was that they were offering at or below entry level for just one. If I had had the time, I might have responded just to see what kind of people these were. Now that I am retired, I may make responding to these a hobby. There is no better feeling than to interview for a job that you neither want nor need. I know this from experience but that is another story.
If you do that, you need to post what happens. Lol
I did a internet search for an acronym once. I started being bombarded for offers for training in that acronym (I'm not saying because that would reveal the employer). I put a filter on my email to weed them out. One email squeaked through and it was a job opportunity, so I called for fun, got an interview and got the job. Good pay, doing something new for me in my field (electrical controls) and good pay. It was kinda 'experimental' in nature, modifying machines for environmental requirements. Did a couple modifications, did some work on the company's infrastructure, not hard work, and not much of it really. The regulations got relaxed, it became apparent to me that they didn't know what to do with me, I didn't really need the job, so I offered to quit.
They called a big meeting, Owner/CEO, HR manager, my boss (VP of electric branch), etc . Wound up giving me a $4 an hour raise, told me to go home, put in 40 hours a week and they'll give me a call if they need me. 4 months or so, the day before all the COVID shutdowns, they laid me off. I wound up making more $ on UI and all than I was making while "working"!
"Money for nothing"
"Working without pay" = "We want to reintroduce indentured servitude; just be grateful we chose you so you can have a job".
Its actually WORSE than indentured servitude or even slavery. Indentured servants and slaves have to be fed, housed, clothed, and provided with medical care by their masters. These companies don't even do that. A lot of the reason companies have unpaid internships is that they often hire former interns as real paid employees and the unpaid internship serves as a filter to weed out applicants from poor and even middle class backgrounds, since only rich kids can afford to work for free. Its a way of keeping jobs reserved for the few; no matter how educated or qualified you are, they don't want you if you are not one of them.
A Servicenow developer with 5 years of experience would make 100k+. My guess it's an ad to say they looked for a US based candidate and nobody applied so they can either bring in an H-1B or overseas candidate.
I would bet money that's the plan. Happens a lot more than people think.
First technical skill they listed was MS Word. What kind of CS position would request that ? I would assume any CS graduate can use Word comfortably
@@YoniLiron like saying 'we offer competitive wages-
Exactly. The Security company, Securitas does that in their IT department all the time, additionally, the IT VP at Securitas has a foreign employment service company that he personally makes money on every new foreign employee.
@@YoniLiron yes , but I guess they wanted the candidate to spend many additional hours typing himself endless reports , being also burdened by the work of a typical secretary.
I declined an offer about three months ago in large part due to a lot of the advice I've seen on this channel about red flags and interview prep. Yesterday, I started a fully remote job that pays $20,000 more than the previous offer. It took me three months longer, but I didn't have to sign a non-compete to work a below-market, entry-level job!
Thanks for all of the great content!
Congratulations!
Good for you. The ability to keep looking is valuable. Too many people grab the first offer because they have no savings or other income to pay bills while they look for the right position.
Menards will just have to do without you.
Yes the non-compete clauses are another red flag. They are just a way of keeping someone in a low-paying job that they hate.
@@kristofftaylovoski60 Is that a meme on this channel?
I laughed at my last employer. They want to pay me 14.00/hr to work security two hours away from me. Refused to compensate the commute with milage pay, and then called me lazy. I stood up, laughed, and wished them luck.
I had something with a company that interviewed for me for a position in Deerfield, about half an hour away. They hired me and I gave my two weeks notice. Then the next day they asked if I'd rather work in Round Lake, over two hours away. They called back several times saying "wouldn't you rather work in Round Lake?". Then the day before I was to start, they told me I needed to sign the "onboarding paperwork" which included a non-compete provision that I can't quit and go to work for another company doing the same type of work for two years or incur a penalty, and a provision that I can be transferred to another site at the employer's whim and if I refused I could be fired with cause and the two years would be starting when I left, along with non-disparagement clauses and other provisions.
I know the first thing they would have done when I started was move me to Round Lake since they kept asking if I'd go there after they hired me for Deefield.
The fact that they waited until after I had quit my previous job and was due to start to spring these clauses on me when they should have been part of the hiring really pissed me off. I refused and they said I couldn't start unless I signed the contract. Don't work for Baxter.
Arguably what’s worse than requiring too much experience, is requiring too little. I was offered a charge nurse job 6 months into my first nursing job. It’s becoming more and more common for nurses to have very little experience in high ranking positions because people with experience keep quitting. In healthcare, that’s potentially deadly.
Amen! I was a charge nurse 6 months out of school and I was the most senior on my shift! And most medical units are staffed primarily by nurses of less than 5 years experience because they overwork the nurses so bad that they either go to another specialty area or get additional education to become an NP, a PA, or an instructor. Retired now due to disability.
Based on your videos, I've declined a few offers because of "red flags." I've had mangers no call no show for a final interviews, directors having no idea who comp plans would work, and have been asked for give an hour presentation about a problem the business is facing.
glad to have helped!
I’ve had the same. From very high end level roles and salaries. I do not do work on presentations for free. I might do a 5 minute recap on info you’ve given me or a limited practicum, but not more. My thing is that I will kindly or jokingly say that-and employers hate being called out on what they’re doing! But I won’t enable.
But yes, so many employers who do things he mentions in the video, and they all need to be made accountable. Or at least for yourself, avoid them!
and the end they question.my gap saing i am choosy amd.now i just take whatever job i have
I had given 6 rounds in a company, 2 long projects and wasted my 5 months and in the 6th and final round they had 10 completely new comers in the company with no idea of my presentation, some of them said they had bad internet and said they didn't understand my presentation coz of the internet. I offered to repeat the presentation but they said they said sorry they didn't have time and then rejected me and it was a fortune 500 company 🤷
@@1dhole just get along then
I applied for this job because I'm super passionate about a part time role to pay my cell phone bill.
With hard work and dedication, you will also be able to pay your laundry expenses.
These job postings are absolutely predatory and they're preying on desperate job seekers.
As someone who recently left a position that was paying higher than average due to a very toxic boss and poor work enviroment it's important not to settle for bad employers of any type.
2 things I noticed about most of the job postings when I was looking for work: First, there were postings that had a lot of words but didn't actually tell you anything about the job. Telling me they had no idea how to write a job posting. Second, there were postings that basically said they were going to work you to death, but not pay crap for it. Bottom line, most job postings are a joke.
When someone hits you with "We're in a right-to-work state, this means we can fire you at any time, for any reason, or no reason at all. Do you understand this ?" 3 times during the first 15 minutes of the interview ... it does not bode well. Never did hear back from this one.
I'm also quite fond of the many Entry-Level positions which require 3-4-5 years experience in a number of technologies.
Oh, we require at least 3 years in Perl 5.8.x ... your 9 years experience in 5.6.x don't count.
I tried to tell people this when I first got a job after moving to OK (a right to work state). I was shocked at finding out that that's what the state is. And employees were shocked when I explained that to them and they didn't seem to like the fact that they were tricked and deceived into voting that 'right to work' policy into place. Too many people are fooled by the name & don't bother to find out what it really means!!
And then you have the case of Jimmy John's sub shops, who not long ago, made non-compete agreements part of the hiring documents for low wage workers. They wanted it both ways, and now have the nerve to say "no one wants to work anymore".
Or when you see entry lever HR assistant for $11 to $ 15 per hr but requires 3-5 years experience plus SHRM certification 😳
I was earning this type of money 35 years ago with zero experience!
I am a mechanic and I see all jobs doing this also. They want you to know everything about every brand and do it all for 22 an hour. Yeah, no! I made that years ago, I'm not regressing in pay with the same output, no way. Any other job is typically lower than 15, and they never respond back. It is truly sickening what is going on in the market. A good one is the worker opportunity act credit. They won't hire you unless you qualify them for the 6000- 9000 dollar a year credit! How can a normal person compete with that?
Ah yes, the "entry level" jobs requiring years of prior experience
@@johnwilliamson2393 I was offered $13 an hour as an experienced transportation dispatcher last week. I told that hiring manager that minus taxes wouldn’t pay my rent and walked out.
Just like Adventureland, where Eisenberg's character needed years of experience in a field to get an entry level job.
You know what i think would be a super helpful video? An interview demo! Get somebody to do a mock interview with and put a lot of what you've taught us this past year or so into practice for us to see.
I think mock interviews are a waste of time
I think a video of an interview would be nice. I feel like he would produce a good mock interview. I've tried looking some up and they the quality is so bad I can't get past it to pick up the good tips. And for someone with severe social anxiety watching examples helps more than just reading or listening for picking up tips.
As a small business (remodeling company), I agree these companies aren’t offering enough pay for the market. *On the other hand* , inflation- due to Biden- has devalued the dollar & made it hard to offer the pay workers need, while still maintaining profit
So in conclusion, what I’m doing is just doing all the admin/office work myself, and I just subcontract out to crews to complete the remodeling work and I hire a maid (subcontract, per job basis) to clean the office occasionally. Can’t afford employees right now
Also I didn’t think #3 (the one with requirements) was THAT bad, if you’re a good candidate and confident you’ll get the job it’s not that big of a deal
I remember that I applied for a job repairing sound equipment. The interviewer said that I would not only use my own vehicle but I would not be compensated for fuel and mileage. The interviewer was shocked and became angry when I turned down his “generous” offer.
There is this one company that offers a "Dell Driving Position" for $13/hour (although the last incarnation seems to have raised it to $15), 6-month temp job, bring your own car, drive 500 miles a week. They claim you do get mileage, but then you see the offer is 3 cents a mile, so $15 for the gas to drive 500 miles. I was spending $20/week on gas when I had to drive 15 miles to work, which 15*2*15=150 miles/week.
I've been getting offers for this job for the last 10 years. Apparently they have offices in Naperville and Schaumburg, IL.
I had a colleague that I thought about bringing on as a subcontractor who expected me to reimburse his cell & auto expenses for local travel & work (this was for a predominantly remote IT consulting project, not sales, etc)....the nerve of that guy...we havent spoken since...
@@SlickRCBD Not to mention maintenance, the price to buy the car, etc.
@@SlickRCBD 3 cents per mile? The current IRS mileage rate is 62.5 cents. Not sure how the IRS calculates that, but I'm sure there is a process.
@@SlickRCBD So many IT repair companies pull this shit. Low pay, high mileage, lots of criticism, and no benefits - make you be "self employed" WTF!!
I have found you by accident and 60 years too late! I am now almost 80 and I wish that we had had such fantastically useful, insightful advice as yours. Although the wording was different back then, the basics are the same. There have always been crappy employers and, looking back, I have met a lot of them.
I think your work should be compulsory reading/ course work in all secondary schools. (UK schools age 11 to 18). With a well educated work force the age of the rubbish employers could be cut short. Thank you, from all present and future employees.
As a nurse, what I’ve encountered are job posting that look good, you apply and realize it’s actually a healthcare recruitment company and the job they bait you in with doesn’t exist.
What also happens often is that the recruiters don’t reveal the name of the hospital or facility until you get far into the interview process because of how badly reviewed they are, or how ridiculously high the turnover is.
I’m not looking for a new job but I love your channel 🥰
appreciate it and glad to have ya here!
Your comment about the start-up company was bang on. I was approached by two start-up companies, both offering $50k less than the market. They required a PhD degree and lots of experience on doing experiments and product development. They also demanded me to do work outside of this role like marketing and admin. Basically, they wanted a person that could do 3 jobs but would pay crap. I had enough self-respect to say no. Less than two years later, both companies no longer exist.
3 to 5 hour of screening tests? Sure, once I get your check for $400 for my time I’ll log right in!
People should be compensated for the project work, at minimum.
They will resell the data just like Facebook
I applied for a job where the initial application took me about an hour. They assigned me the first vetting task which took me about six hours to complete. Then they assigned me the second vetting task which took me 3-4 hours to complete. I did not get an interview.
Ah, a review of the stupidity I was subjected to while looking for a job about a year ago. What a clown world we're living in now. Great video, thanks.
I remember seeing a job post online during the credit crunch period that made annoyed. The post was very demanding, requiring a huge number of skills with so many bullet points. Along with all the bad spelling and grammar, the last part said “You must have good written and verbal English.” Laughable 😂
I’ve laughed about that before too
You must have good written and verbal English because apparently they don't have anyone that does.
The job posts I find crazy are the ones where they post 'Entry Level' jobs. I read the description and discover they are looking for a candidate with 2-3 years experience in an area or ideally you will have this, its ridiculous! Those job posts in the video cracked me up
I knew someone who worked for Teavana, and they operate on a similar "productivity management" model across all of their corporate-owned franchises... which is part of why I don't shop there any more. If sales dipped below expectations in any given hour, someone at corporate would call the franchise and give the employees a hard time, recommending all kinds of sleazy, devious, and predatory tactics to improve numbers. And with the store in the Midwest, the corporate callers based in warmer climates had zero sympathy for revenue disruptions due to snowstorms, so when the weather was bad, they were getting called almost every hour that they were open.
If I owned that company I'd transfer that warm weather manager to Chicago for a year and let him experience real winter.
All that stress and pressure for minimum wage. Is it any wonder these type of jobs are crying for workers now?
I guess that’s why they’re so aggressive about soliciting at their store entrances at the mall
@@wiseowl2020 Make them suffer transfer them to.
Minot North Dakota. They'll love it.
Thanks for identifying a sleazy company. I'll make sure to never buy anything from them.
I'm on LinkedIn, and the other day a recruiter reached out to me for a 1 month contract with no guarantees, I was like who in the hell is going to jump through hoops for a 1 month contract?!
You are exactly right!!!!!!
I'm a Recruiter and I just hired someone for a 13 week contact no guarantee they will hire perm and it took 1 month to get her onboarded and we made her pay for her TB test. I was shocked she didn't tell me to go f myself. Cause I know I would have. She finally starts tomorrow and it's only $14.50/hr. I hope after all of the that she gets offered perm and give her a raise. Also this bull crap no one wants to work is just that bull crap. People just want a livable wage is that really unreasonable?
some of us are desperate.. sounds dumb but i literally dont even get to an interview
Contrary to the myth about people not working, folks are desperate and will take ANYTHING!! WHICH IS JUST WHAT THE CAPITALIST WANT
A one month contract position that they spent more than a month applying and interviewing for.
That "Contract" job at the end, they probably meant that they were going to 1099 the person as well, which shifts the company's tax and FICA responsibilities to the employee, which would leave them with the equivalent of a $7/hr. job.
"We prefer you to intern, unpaid, for two years before we consider you.". Best one is the HR supervisor posted all positions in the company for hiring. ALL POSITIONS. When I asked they replied "Oh we just wanted to see if there was an interest in the career field.". Both instances were the same company.
Imagine going to bathroom and getting a call from your "productivity coach" while you are still on the can. "Yes sir. I am going to the bathroom sir. Right now, yes. I am just finishing up right now. Wiping my ass right now sir. Yes, I will be back in front of my computer in 10.5 seconds. Goodbye." No thank you. I think micro-managing doesn't go far enough in describing that kind of behavior.
I had a manager that would wait outside the door and comment on the noises I made while in the bathroom.
I worked for a MAJOR company who if you stood up and stretched for a moment management would ask if you needed more work...
And traditional employers wonder why people want to work for themselves 🤔🤔🤔
@@nicolehall694 oh come on 😆 🤣 😂 😹
@@kolyxix 100% absolutely true
I've heard a lot of issues with the "Do a presentation on this specific issue" job interviews. They've already decided to hire from inside but want ideas from better qualified people for the promoted drone to implement.
This has Joshua fluke energy
And I love it
Exactly what I was thinking lol. All that is missing is naming and shaming
They should collab
Yaaaaayy a fellow Fluke fan!
OMG I was actually looking for channels similar to Josh's and thought the same thing about this one :D
Honestly these guys are a breath of fresh air
They only get away with it when we accept the job offers!! Yes! I have been saying that for the past couple months. I just recently went from a low quality employer to a high quality employer, and everything you’re saying is spot on
I turned down a job (an offer to keep the job) from the new owners of a company I'd been working for as the main IT tech, because they wanted me to drive a company van with tracking devices...plus some other stupid things they did. I knew every client's system, and when I left they had awful trouble keeping the clients happy. I'd been one guy and did it well; they had a team.
Re: the project one, I am a copywriter and when I was interviewing for my current job, I was given an assignment and told to track my time and submit an invoice at an hourly rate close to the pay of the position. In other words, if you make people work as part of the hiring process, pay them.
I think this should be a legal requirement any time companies ask you to do work - even for interviews
The one for the second round project (4th project) sounds like they want several "candidates" to give the company some good ideas for free. I bet none were hired and the company took the free work and ran with it.
"Candidates spend an average of 6 to 8 hours" How did they calculate that? How many candidates have already been fooled?
Hell yeah, that's their business model.
Excellent point! One time a posting online stated they were UPS hiring for the holidays. I called & they pretended to have a hiring manager call me back. The "so called UPS recruiter" asked me for my address, birthdate, phone and social security. I stopped at the birthdate & social because this was a huge RED FLAG of identity theft. I told the recruiter, "I am happy to provide this information over a secure server on UPS but not on the phone.
I once went for an interview for a law firm who wanted each potential employee to spend a day working for them for nothing - that way they got a week's free work. I also worked once in a temp job where I did data inputting. They told me I needed to do twice as much as I was actually doing, which would have been impossible.
Many years ago I was approached by a job recruiter for a company. I won’t name them as they didn’t seem like a terrible employer, but here’s a red flag I remember. The interview started by telling me about the salary, which was extremely high. They then started talking about the total compensation of the job outside the pay. The point that I realized this job wasn’t for me was when they started talking about travel expenses. Now this would be a great job for someone who is single but not me. The job required someone to travel for 9 months out of the year all over the globe. Their biggest contracts were with companies in the Middle East and South America but they also did business in Egypt and Europe. I would be trained to be a subject matter expert and would be required to teach and to diagnose problems. Now for the money and the fact that all my travel expenses would be paid in full, plus the discretionary allowance, it hurt to turn down that job. But I realized after that day that if an employer starts talking money there is something wrong with the job.
I've been a web developer for 15 years and I've encountered a lot of red flags, hassles, or wastes of time. A few examples are coding tests (especially ones that take 1+ hour, much less 6+ hours) which seem to come up often, but certainly not all the time; having to apply for the job after being submitted by a recruiter, especially if I have to fill out every field manually despite having a resume with all that information; and having to modify my resume for the position in a ridiculous way (having to add my 'JSON experience' as the 'hiring manager' requires a lot of it - and trying to explain to them it's an inherent part of JavaScript and that's like detailing my keyboard experience with Word... If they don't know that, then I don't want to work for them.)
I was asked to do a coding test once for a research position that required a doctorate in science.
Maybe they should have asked me to take part in a spelling bee while they were at it.
If I see positions like this I just don’t apply. If they don’t understand what they need from a candidate - they don’t understand how much his time is actually gonna worth
People get hired for their keyboard experience all the time. It's called "typing skills". Just sayin.
This is good stuff, you should do this periodically, clear examples of red flags are always appreciated
1. The company that was looking for an agile coach really really needs an agile coach based on the job advert.
2. I LOLed at the $11/hr for the software developer ad. I graduated 1.5yrs ago with a college diploma (effectively Canadian for Associate's Degree). Before I finished school I had a job lined up for about triple that and that's on the low side for a new grad (they have a very cool niche specialty and generous annual increases), a software dev with 5yrs experience is going to expect between 6-15 times what that job is offering.
$11 an hour? I make $12/hr pushing a broom - A DECADE AGO.
Yeah I recently saw a software dev job ad for something like $12-13/hr... I was like PLEASE no one apply to that. I am studying programming and that just made my heart drop. Seriously wtf.
"Agile Coach"..... this might be the problem with America.... like a job description for "Cultural Influencer" or "Professional Trend Setter"..
@@YTStoleMyUsername there are a lot of folks out there that don't understand how expensive programmers are. Rate varies quite a bit based on location, but $12/hr is not a realistic rate anywhere. Even as a student, my summer/coop jobs paid double that.
If that can be made remote someone will be extremely happy outside of the us.
That is a high pay job on some places like my country, maybe the average for a java senior dev
Had a position where the contract said they could modify the pay without notice for any reason, massive red flag, always read contracts and never sign anything with this clause no matter how good it seems.
ALWAYS avoid any job listings which say 'FAST PACED WORKPLACE!'
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I just happened across this video because I was talking to my SO about the job I just started. They didn't tell me it was a contract until AFTER I had accepted the job, now that I am 1 week into training, it's been terrible. I've learned next to nothing, the class was 95 people in 3 different types of worker roles. So they didn't isolate my group until Friday, which THEN they began talking about our job role. They also assigned us cases from employees that were recently fired, they mentioned how 80% of the people hired for this job "Don't make it", threatened to lock us out of the Zoom Room if we turn our cameras off for longer than 5 minutes or didn't have it directly facing our faces, threatened to report misunderstandings and questions to higher ups and more.
Needless to say, I will be leaving tomorrow. I respect myself too much to be treated this way and with almost no training. They expect us all to be ready this Wednesday yet I can't tell you how to navigate their systems yet. The rude instructor isn't a good trainer at all.
Just recently quit one of my first official jobs. My employer was rude, disrespectful and made jokes and statements about cutting other employee salaries in front of other employees. We also was forced to go to a company dinner event and the food wasn't cooked to their liking so they literally started berating the staff their and the boss himself made jokes loudly about wanting to go to McDonalds along with staff following in it. I was so embarassed and felt so bad for the woman who had to deal with them and simmer them down, there was a lot of people there at the time, but it's so disrespectful. I eventually quit a month or so afterwards they were never extremely bad towards me, but still enough that I didn't wanna stay that long.
OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS!! You just validated all the times I have shaken my head in disbelief at some of the trashy habits these wannabe-employers have. I can only assume they have no idea how to hire and keep hiring the wrong people when they list out all those infantile instructions to follow just to apply. I have a friend who worked for one of those companies that had a tracking program on her computer. Absolutely horrid. A former manager was flown out of state to get a psychological assessment for a middle-management position... I mean, who is running this circus? I have shut down applications in the middle of filling stuff out when it just got to be too ridiculous.
Remember that Seinfeld episode where the boss fires Kramer and Kramer says "well I don't even really work here" Boss says "that's what makes this even more difficult". lol.
You ought to do a similar collection not of ads, but of stories from people who got hired for jobs that didn't exist. I had a friend who knew his stuff inside out, upside down, and backwards, and still had to jump through all kinds of hoops and multiple interviews before finally getting a decent offer from a big IT firm he was happy to accept. He was just finishing breakfast & getting ready to leave for his FIRST day at the new job when the phone rang -- it was the company's HR department telling him that they had just received notice they did not win the contract that they had specifically hired him for in order to meet the minimum requirements to be able to bid on... so he had no job, thanks for your interest, goodbye. Of course it was the first he'd heard anything about that particular aspect of the job offer.
Been looking for work for 5 yrs. I have a job, just want a better one, but these are the kinds of things I run into constantly. My mother just keeps telling me "everyone is hiring", but these are horrible jobs.
I won't even apply if it isn't better than what I have already. I'm not crazy, thank you
Their is a huge difference between the quantity of companies hiring and a quality job. I know so many people who are qualified but can’t get hire because of too old over qualified too expensive etc. Companies want to hire but don’t want to pay above minimum wage or just over minimum. Plus for entry level jobs: applicants are required to have 3/5 years experience and Bachelors / Masters degrees. It’s not worth moving to be a worse position
We need more of these type of videos! Hilarious and insightful!
Appreciate you stopping by!
@@ALifeAfterLayoff I'm so glad someone has addressed these issues. Thanks!
I just saw an event production position with a laundry list of responsibilities and then in CAPS they wrote that you were expected to be available 24/7…for $30k. Buddy, I wouldn’t even do it for 6 figures let alone for minimum wage. This was in LA 😂
I was a part of the pre-interview assessment test. After the test, I got the interview. But then I realize this. The employer tried to get free work from 3rd recruiter and the candidates. They had a business problem that they try to find solutions. The assessment test and the interview are the tools for them to get solutions.
Got all the way to the final interview before they told me it was commission only.
I firebombed the interview at that point. And as it was a joint interview everyone else they wanted to hire got to see me calling the employers liars. I doubt they took the job after that.
I recall doing a data entry job that printed labels from the computer. The supervisor would get a read out on every employee that showed the exact time a label was printed. The supervisor would go through your entire readout over the 8 hours and add up all the minutes in between printing labels. Then she would bring you into the office to tell you and you would have to tell her why there were time gaps between labels.
Yeah, I wouldn't last long there.
So ridiculous. So what are you supposed to say when you’re having a particularly hellish period? Submit a pad count for proof? 🤔
I just saw the video title. I'm already excited lol
This should be a series. Seriously. Thanks a lot and keep it up!
Hope you enjoy it!
@@ALifeAfterLayoff how do you feel about employers who have 4 page job posts? I see this a lot in my role in the nonprofit realm. I laugh because many times it’s that they want 1 person to do 3 people’s roles. Sometimes they just are lost on how to post, and that’s something to read between lines on.
I was a prime candidate for a job for a contractor that did help desk support for a major company. I was about to take the job, and while talking to the recruiter, I mentioned that I would need to be off a partial day for my son's high school graduation, which was a couple of weeks away on a weekend. They could not guarantee that I could be off that day but said I would get fired if I missed a day because it was "mandatory training". I declined the job at that point. I have a fantastic work ethic and I rarely miss work, but there was no way I was going to miss my son's graduation, that I notified them about during the hiring process. To me that was a huge red flag that they would be a very unforgiving employer. In hindsight, I probably would have lost my job because my grandmother passed shortly after that. My new employer for the job I ended up with was very considerate and had no problem with me taking a day off for a funeral, and I continued to work there for another five years.
I was so happy to see the legal admin posting! So many of those postings have dumb requirements. I think it’s the law firm culture. They want to be sure the person they are hiring has no self worth so they can treat them poorly and know they’ll get away with it. The law firm caste system is real but at least is starting to change.
Ah the productivity coach :) Had that once and made sure it backfired hard towards them ;)
When working a dreadfull callcenter job I had regular meetings with internal auditors. It always went the same. I didn't follow their holy script (because it didn't cover half the problems and was always outdated) and had my phone on 'busy' to long after a call.
- About the script they told me to provide feedback, which I usually did untill I found out they didn't do anything with it
- About busy I told them I won't hold up expensive hourly executives so I could finish registering my call properly (30 seconds is not enough for complicated issues which require escalation).
Then one day they told me I came back from lunch 15 minutes too early on average for about half a year. I grinned and promised them I'll be compliant on this account. The next (and last) 6 months I made sure to compensate those 15 minutes for the past 6 months as well so they 'wouldn't have to pay all that overtime'. So every smoke break, lunch or whatever I took my sweet time doing it :)