well you have to blame the tech youtubers and all the other idiots, making videos about my life as a coder, waking up and drinking latte and saying how you can earn 250k just by writing a few lines of code. These influeners have completely destroyed the tech industry by saturating it with people who are only in it for the money and lifestyle. Now people who are passionate about coding and in it for the right reasons are being destroyed by all these imposters who really have no interest in coding but only want the money. Even when the market recovers, the tech industry will never ever be the same again. The tech industry will never ever pay the salaries we saw before because they will now have ai, and millions of swe applying for the same position. Thank the tech youtubers for destroying the tech industry that was supposed to be for a chosen few and now completly everyone wants to be a swe. Tech as we know it is finished.
@@jackblack1801 I think these videos has pretty much started out as a deliberate psy-op by tech industry giants. Like these people pretty much have no reason to do these videos for money unless they secretly work for HR. Additionally, I think that a lot of "everyone can code" stuff was also about "pull yourself by your bootstraps" propaganda to avoid government addressing job losses due to automation. I always found the organic "just learn to code bro" types in online communities annoying because they clearly didn't understand the concept of supply and demand. Like they just felt entitled to money because they were in tech and never considered what will happen when the industry will be flooded by people who follow their advice. Like they thought that they are being paid purely because of merit, not because of scarcity. Thing about people who aren't passionate and at least somewhat talented is that they never actually get to phase of actually looking for a coding job. They usually burn out during the studying phase. Like that stuff always existed with the "I play computer games and I know how to configure a computer so I'm going to be a computer scientist" crowd that usually doesn't pass the first year. It's simply that now there's a ton of people who are just adequate. Who were passionate and talented enough to grind their skills for 1000s of hours but aren't anything special. Generally, I really dislike most of people who make money on saturating job markets like work youtubers and even people who run training. They make sure that talent and very hard gets devalued. It's even worse with art youtubers who are basically making money on telling hundreds of thousands of naive young people that they can also become online artists.
It’s not just tech, it’s everywhere. The economy is not great. It’s on a national level in every sector aside from healthcare where there are shortages.
I don't know how people with families and financial commitments are staying sane navigating the current jobs market. I don't have kids or bills, so getting laid off wasn't a major blow to me. I did find work again with great health benefits, but it's not my preferred line of work.
@harrypotter7854 newsflash-EVERYWHERE treats you like shit. I've been a pharmacist since 1995 and I've literally NEVER been out of work more than a couple of weeks during that time. After listening to this nonsense, I now have a newfound appreciation for my career....
i literally applied for 800 job posts but always sees the message-Unfortunately, we will not be moving forward with your application, but we appreciate your time and interest!!
How long are you spending on each application? Spamming the same resume to every open position is not going to get you responses. Selecting the positions you’d actually be a good fit for and taking the time to adjust your resume accordingly is a far better approach.
@@mrgaudy1954 people lead senior people with +20 years of experience for top premium brands like spotify cant get a job after 100 applications. More than half of the job ads are ghost. Nothing makes sense anymore. You can tweak whatever nobody gives a shit. They dont hire you for "standing out". Standing out only helps you to get interviews. They hire based on if they like you.
@@PoojaDutt yet there are people all over TH-cam and reddit stating that the job market for software was worse in 2008..... People keep ignoring the fact that cs and swe become over-hyped, causing everyone to decide they want to be a software engineer, and the tech influencers do have some part in this as well
You should still apply anyway. Usually the people putting together those descriptions are people on the recruiting team that have no idea what they're talking about. Hell, lie if you have to.
as a retired disabled support help, I would say that the best job right now is to work from home for an investment manager who will hire you to do records. I make over 210k annually.
I got layoff since 2023/01. I applied more then 700 application , and only had 4 interviews. The anxiety of job searching is very very tough... I even tried to commit suicide twice. Luckily my mom stopped me... Just a month ago I finally got a job. I was very fortunate to get selected (The HR told me that they got more than a thousand applications but only 79 made it to the final interview and only selected 28...) It was very very very tough so I truly understood. So here is my advice: 1. Keep studying: We need to put down something we can't control. The only thing we can control is to keep studying 2. Don't over-study: I only study 5 new interview questions, 1 leetcode, 1-hour side project, and 1 chapter of any book per day. You don't want to push yourself so hard, chill a bit. 3. Ignore any negative feedback: People will keep telling you to give up, your parents, your loved one, your friend, etc......Don't listen to them! Keep trying, you just need one lucky time! 4. You can do it: If I can do it, so as you! Never give up!
From 700 only 79 and even tailored to 28 so its 1:25 ratio, 1 in 25. You really need to take the interview process seriously guys, I mean not to much seriously. Also @alex0917ifo thanks your mother twice every day.
@@lolabus7132 It means only spending 1 hour on your project to improve your skills. And read 1 chapter of any book. I am currently reading Atomic Habit by James Clear
This market is 2008 again but we're told the economy is great (it's not). Companies don't do layoffs when things are going well they're holding cash reserves.
Yeah but be optimistic. If we go through a 2008 scenario again, the job boom after the crash is sorted out will be insane. There were so many jobs created during the last recovery and now with AI, I feel like the next one will be even greater. Stay the course and never give up!
I've had 7 interviews (phone, zoom, in-person) in 3 months. The interviews go well, the hiring manager and others on the panel give body language that it's going well too, like big smiles to my answers. One lady on the panel would nod and wink sometimes, especially when I knew my answer were good. "great answer", "it's so good that you mentioned that", "yes, that really aligns with what we do here". Yet I still get rejected : /
Nursing - Philippines Tech - India Manufacturing - China Less-than-minimum-wage "blue collar" jobs domestically - Illegal immigrants Everything else - AI makes finding full-time employment with benefits in a traditional "office job" increasingly difficult for those who are even qualified for the limited remaining positions.
Hope isn't putting food on my table. I'm going to be out of a place to live soon and I can't afford to eat. I'm ready to clock out of life realistically it's just not worth it anymore.
The US Postal Service is hiring. call work at the mall because you get free Wi-Fi and music and it’s very chill. If you wanna make more money just work more hours, but the environment is very relaxing and there’s air conditioning if you work in the indoor mall.
I graduated in May of 2023 and I still haven't found employment within my field. Things are rough, but I must keep trying and hope for the best. Much luck to all of you out there we will make it.
Lol i read that wrong, thought you said if you had no college degree that guaranteed job security rather than the correct not a single college degree guarantees job security.
from Kenya here. Between 2016-2022 there was a real boom here. software opportunities everywhere. At one time in 2020 I got 3 trials, all at software businesses. Toward the end of 2022 I think the software bubble burst. Here the State is still convincing young kids to get into coding but I personally think the software bubble has burst. In 2023 after looking for a contract for 4 months without luck, I decided to go into motorcycle repair. Basically my journey finds me in a totally different career after about 9 years in the ICT game
Yes mate. Mechanical/Engineering work is frustrating, dirty and sometimes dangerous, and not many people want to do it. But you'll rarely be out of work!
Totally relatable. I've applied to so many jobs, tailored my resumes, and updated my linkedin and still nothing. It can be very exhausting and discouraging, and it is especially difficult for those who don't have the connections. To cope with this, if you have any hobbies or a passion for something, DO IT. If you are able to get money off of any kind of job, even better. But I suggest to focus on yourself, learn something new, and do what you enjoy for the meantime no matter the circumstances. I genuinely believe we are all capable of doing great things with the right mindset and creating some value of our own. Best of luck!
Honestly at this point the best way to get a job at a tech company is to start competing with it. Seriously. Start working on an app that does ONE thing better than facebook. Keep working on those types of apps and either: 1. They will start making money and you won't need a job, or 2. A company will hire you to do what you did with your app for them. Like real shit, it's either that or retail/warehouse right now. Build like a demon. Know leetcode fundamentals but make building the priority.
I have been applying for the past 8 months for an entry level job, I have applied over 400 companies and barely got any interviews, I just have 1 year of experience in Software Engineering, I'm just hoping that one day an HR mails me back with "Hi, we are going to move forward with your profile....." rather than "Thank you for applying, unfortunately we are not going to move forward......". Anybody watching this comment who is stuck like me, hopefully you get the job as well❤
Honestly companies are not hiring enough people even when they need. There is a scarcity of good senior mentors in the market for junior-mid level developers and companies are not ready to spend money to train and mentor. Senior developers are being overworked and are still pressured that they are not up to the mark.
Why hire someone if they can't produce right away? Work never stops and budgets need to be met. So you work 60-70 hours a week. I know I did. Profiles, not in-depth resumes were being used to get people in the job. A job they only ever read a book for. Drove me nuts.
I'm a senior dev (8+ years of working experience) and i can't even get an interview right now. Every job announcement on linkedin gets to 100 plus candidates in minutes from when it get posted.
I learned JavaScript last year. Then Python. Then react. I didn’t apply to any tech jobs. I got a job as an assistant manager for an airport parking company. Noticed some of the apps were trash or completely missing, so now I’m actually building an app for them. I’m also have my own project I’m working on that will hopefully become a company. At the end of the day, you have all of these coders fighting to be an employee chasing high salaries, when this is a skill that you can use to create your own.
FR, all these videos are like watching painters crying that no one is hiring them to paint, and when you ask to see their portfolio, they stare blankly at you. You're a "developer?" Cool, develop something. No? OK, you're not a developer.
a lot of developers already have very well sophisticated projects that should be WELL OVER the line for entry level. doesnt mean you need to turn it into a full business. that takes a lot of resources (time, mental health, money) that may not be worth it in the end.
I honestly thought I was the only one. I'm not a software engineer, I'm a journalist (with both a BA and MA) with over a decade of professional experience. Applied to tons of jobs in the last four years. I did get an interview or two, but ultimately I always get "we've moved on with other applicants" 'IF' I even get a reply at all
From Melbourne AU. I relocated to Melbourne from Hong Kong. Has been finding a job for almost 9 months... I totally got 2x interviews and 6-8 times in second interview but finally no luck... you know.. it is so tired to keep finding a job and preparing an interview, especially I'm not a native english speaker, it is a big challenge for me. In last week, I completed a second interview for the IT role at hosptial. Hope to get this job finally...
I’ve done 100+ job applications pal, not Computer Expert line of work, but you you know what I am saying, I had enough after 100+ applications, 💀🔫 I think this girl applied for 70+ applications, but making it out she applied for 700+, that’s 🐂 💩, it would take about 5 years to make 700+ job applications, I know… because I’ve been there, mass lay offs in software development only started in Jan 2024, how can you make 700+ applications in six months But sure enough it must feel like 700+
A lot of these people are just spamming the same resume to every position available without taking the time to focus on the positions they’d actually be a good fit for and adjusting their resume accordingly.
@@mrgaudy1954 No My Friend, I think situation more difficult than that, people know what they are made of, that’s what I have been told all this life, you got to target blah blah blah, I have grow sick of this shit man, this is a different situation, I know what it is like to chase bullshit jobs for years upon years, and can only imagine how it must hurt for folk in 💻 Dev sector, because it was high paid, Its bad enough getting sacked for any crappy job, but a high paying job, to having to live on baked beans and toast 💀🔫
Bud the girl didn’t do 700+ applicatons, she will have done about 70+, she’s exaggerating, she can’t have apply for 700+ since January 2024, she is bullshiting; 70+ probably, it would take about 5 years to appliy for 700+ applications I went off my nut after 100+ at the best of times
I been had this problem 7 years ago when I was fresh out of high school. I applied to a bunch of jobs and struggled to get interviews. These were non tech jobs and it was still tough. Even if the job was doing something simple like mopping floors. Back then people thought I was crazy and not working hard enough filling out enough 100's of applications. The landlord doesn't care if you're having to fill out 1000's of job applications. They want their money for rent for the month.
I was unemployed in January '22, and like many here, sent out countless applications (including to employment agencies). Finally that August (7 months later), i worked at a Fedex warehouse for a month (to get some $$ come in). Then i was hired to work as an amazon delivery driver for another month. Then i was hired by one of the employment agencies to complete two short term assignments (one in Nov, a second one beginning the following January). Then i was finally hired for a new full time position in March '23 as a GIS analyst. So i was between full time positions for over a year, and I took several low paying jobs that were in higher demand just so i wouldnt drain all my savings. I imagine some/many here are doing the same, but i hope this is helpful and I wish everyone success.
Networking with people who learned how to stand out or got the job is the most important thing. It is extremely hard to try to figure out the job market alone.
Have you considered talking to the dev team? Even just scheduling some "coffee breaks", and asking about what you could work on? You already have your foot in the door, maybe start with testing?
@@juanmacias5922 ah, so certain individuals who knows my skill, have approached me with odd jobs, that the dev section will not do. And I have done a few projects that are running in production now.
year 1971- ibm advertised for 5 jobs - you had to take a test - lasted about 2 hours - questions all math - got the job - sent to ibm school to learn hardware/software mostly fortran - became a field service engineer - 1980 - plants and refineries started automated - got a job installing and programming factory automation - worked in several plants till i became a department head along the way i taught myself excel-access database and how to program cad software - always be looking for the next big thing and never stop trying ;-)
The IT Market is very rough too. Requirements going up and wages going down. "You will own nothing and be happy" - Seems like we're headed towards that reality.
I graduated during the pandemic and have been on rocky ground ever since. As soon as I finish college, the job market gets screwed up. It is hard on the self esteem.. especially when my friends seem they’re able to find something
I was furloughed when the pandemic started. My employer directed everyone to file for unemployment. I found another job that paid more within three weeks of being laid off. I worked all through the pandemic when most of the economy was shut down. The employer that furloughed me still wants me to come back. Most other people opted to stay home and collect the extra $600.00 in unemployment benefits. Employers I have dealt with find it impressive that I worked through the pandemic, and chose not to stay at home.
My neighbor works for a nursing home. She said there were layoffs because so many patients died of covid, there are a lot of unoccupied beds...that haven't been repopulated. Of course that's just one place/nursing category. I would think nursing would be the easiest job hiring wise...might have to move to a less lucrative/in-demand area.
I went for an JDE ERP developer job. My manager told me the reason she hired me was bc i was young and that majority of the ERP Developers are near to retirement (5 years or so). Also, market yourself (and actually learn it) as someone that understands Accounting. why? Software is only based off of business demands.
I think everyone needs a reality check. AI is only just getting started. You need to AI proof your career. For those who can its time to go into trades , HVAC, Nursing, Electrician, carpentry and other service industries. It's time to learn a backup hands on skills that AI cant replace . Better still, start your own business.
Don’t mean this as an insult, you’re kind of right but you also need a bit of a reality check. Degrees are a massive investment. Most people can’t just be like “Oh darn this field I went to school for four years for (and possibly have even more years of school/work experience in) and invested tens of thousands of dollars into isn’t working, time to become a Plumber!” The individual should do what they can yes of course, but at least for AI displacement, depending on how rapid it is, that’s something that needs to be solved systemically.
@@ytrqwee What's the purpose of a degree if you can't feed your family? I only posted those as examples. This young generation has really gotten so lazy. They can't even use basic tools. I hear some saying they quit their jobs to be 'content creators'. Is that a realistic career path? You invest tens of thousands of dollars just to work for one employer that uses you as he or she likes and can terminate your employment for any frivolous reason. Doesn't make sense to me.
@@eechaze12 I am actually thinking about this. I am not from engineering background but I am a career transition, trying to make a career change into tech. Currently I am unemployed. I don't want to go back to my previous industry. I browse through job portals almost daily & I see how terrible the situation is. I am thinking to learn trade. I lack in direction on how to go about it.
Problem is there are too many young people all wanting the softy job in front of a computer . The IT/software industry is saturated heavily because so many choose the same fields . Get out a hammer and nail and slap a house together you lazy pricks.
Why would ANYONE pick a career where you have to apply to literally "2000 jobs" to MAYBE get an interview, let alone a job?!?! Really, what is the attraction? Especially when all of these jobs are supposedly in such "high demand" when obviously they are not.
Because I can only pick a career based on what I majored. I couldn't even find a job related to my major, how could I get a job in another field without any experience?
Nurse here. I quit here and there because how management and patients can treat you. Also takes a long while to get hired for another position because hospitals and other similar settings are just not wanting to hire due to shortages. It goes both ways. And it’s a lose lose situation.
I agree with other posters that sometimes location can make a difference. However, Forbes has done a few articles on ghost jobs. According to the Ludwig Institute, it is also possible that the true unemployment rate is 24.3%. A resume rewrite to pass the ATS system is also helpful. The main suggestion is that you may have to build something--app, website, ecommerce store, etc. (For software engineering, Verizon is offering apprenticeships in some cities in VA, NJ, and TX.)
Yes, just read article on the ghost jobs. So many fake job postings. Tech is a huge field where employers keep applicant files in their catalogue for when they sooner than later actually need to hire due to high turnover rate yada yada. Not cool that the ads don’t match genuine desires for hires
i have a BSc, and MD, 20+ years in the industry and a successful software company. i like to have a work outside my own business and it has taken me 7000+ applications over 1.5 years to land a job. i'm lucky that my business provides me steady income. i imagine it's incredibly hard out there without a fall-back or other income to keep going.
At this point i get anxiety when theres a message from indeed or my gmail, its usually always with unfortunately, we have decided to move forward.... i still applied to over 30 jobs the other day so you know fingers crossed, just keep going guys what else is there to do?
I applied to over 1200 jobs and I got only 4 calls from the HR ,and only in 1 job, I had 3 interviews and got rejected in the last round with only 4 candidates. Its all on luck but some people will still judge you. I would suggest to do certifications if possible, it will add value in your resume , Also tailor your resume with all the keywords written in the job description.
What's your response to "don't spray and pray"? In other words, show pride in your job application even if it means applying to fewer opportunities. That means having samples that showcase your skills on Github and TH-cam videos on how to use/deploy your repo items. It also means a cover letter. My main challenge is that I moved over 100 miles away from any major city to cut expenses and weather the downturn. I'm still trying to figure out how to manage that.
Yeah, I've been adopting the more realistic approach - applying only to jobs that I feel I'm a realistic fit for, because let's be honest - people who are using AI apps to apply "everywhere" are contributing to the problem as to why jobs have 500 applicants within the first hour it becomes available..
Don't spray and pray is easier said then done. When you are unemployed and burning through your saving it's kinda hard not just apply to any position posted.
Location can be a HUGE factor! One advantage that an untethered person can have is being willing to relocate. Keep your apartment empty and your dufflebag packed, be ready to chase jobs
@@loser9336 I know, its a lot of shit, also talk about doing voluntary work, supposed to look good on the CV/Resumé Bullshited it on a CV and made no difference, when you are in the shit you are in the shit, if anything if you do voluntarily work what it says in reality is that you are someone that cannot get paid work
I'm graduating this month and been applying since last month. 179 applications, no interviews. Ones that have replied back are all rejections. Tho i'm one month in job search process, signs so far aren't something to be hopeful of, sadly preparing myself for the long haul and drought of applying with no end product
@@roderickferrer8405 yes thanks! I have a call setup for tomorrow to get it reviewed by professional..already edited it three times to make it crisp and cut down extra spaces, looking forward for some more insights
@@juanmacias5922 no i have already done two internships with total 16 months experience. One was at an agtech where i worked within Salesforce industry andmy second coop was at a govt. corporate which was more programming heavy(Java-Gosu) and we also collaborated with Deloitte team for the project there, so I do have that exposure, alongside with multiple hackathons and my personal projects.
People need to look at what occupations are in DEMAND before going to school. Then you want have this problem when you graduate. I've never heard of people who went to school for nursing, plumbing, or welding say that they were unemployed after graduation. You can't major in your hobby anymore, you have to be realistic.
@@Hellmiauz And they are driving down wages. It's a legitimate grievance. Countries that aren't controlled by international capitalism and Zionism actually take measures to protect their people from this.
@@realnapster1522 Not true. Companies like IBM Global Services bring cheap labor into the US and companies job on it as it's low cost contract vs having employees to pay for. I know as I worked for IBM.
I know this may sound shallow....but if you came from another country like for say, India, why dont you look for jobs there? They may have something....but then again, jobs there do lie....its a reason why scams are very high...
I havn't had too much of a problem getting interviews since I was laid off May 31, 2023. However its slowed down abit in the last 2 months. I just applied to the company the laid me off and they got back to me a week later. The hiring manager was "very interested" in me. This a different hiring manager for a different team. Its just kind of annoying how picky these hiring managers are. Like I wasn't a perfect fit when I got the job in the first place, but now I fit pretty much exactly the stack, and the responsibilities.. Im just a perfect fit, but I couldnt get the other 12 jobs ive interviewed for in the last 12 months.
@@IVvOOvVI Im going to have to leave my dream home ive been working so hard to get. all these years wanting to be here, now gone. I have lost too much of my savings, im pretty much where I started when I got my last job. Im likely going to need to sleep on a friends house at 37 years old. Ive been trying to get to afford a place thats 2 bedrooms in my city but I cant sustain it if I cant get a job soon.
The only way for a sustainable future workd where eveyone can lead a decent life and have access to basic resources is by reducing the global population. With increasing automation and AI we see more job losses in the future. Most of service jobs will become obsolete .
To everybody saying “I sent 700 applications in a month” those sound like really rushed, sloppy applications. Take your time and shape your resume to the positions you would actually be a good fit for.
Don't give up. In 2022 I had 40+ interviews for 200+ applications. and finally 4+ offers. but ya it took about 2-2.5 months. I know the 2024 market is alot tougher and more saturated. I would specify my skillset to the job I want and focus on specific, tailored jobs rather than generic applications. Also specialize within the industry . I worked in three vastly different industries in 3 years but only because "general" skills were much more in demand in 2021-2023. But moving forward I see due to saturation, extreme niche, specialization to a specific industry vertical in ANY part of the tech industry or general industry is extremely necessary as employers can internally hire and promote candidates and have less incentive to hire someone qualified from the outside but may not know the internal industry lingo/jargon that while not directly relevant to the job skills needed is requisite in becoming a SME (subject matter expert) on the software product from tech or business/product side.
I have 6 months of experience as a IT support/ SEO & HTML programmer I wasnt doing much coding, but basic IT tasks with some html help development and Csv documents writing for a company alongside some basic admin tasks. Im currently in my second year as computer science student and I havent sent any applications yet since i need to write my resume but do you think is it possible to get a job with this experience as a junior? The issue is that if I graduate i dont want to have this problem of "trying to get a SWE job with no experience,but every entry level job asks for experience"
@@G2rtTr Try to find internships , earlier the better. As a college student I would try to find internships the earlier the better or do an unpaid internship or project if you can't get a paid internship. Try to have something tangible by your senior year. Normally I would advocate to not work freshman and sophomore year but now the earlier the better since the best students/schools have multiple jobs on their resume by the time they graduate. Having an internship after freshman, sophomore, and junior year of college is worth it at this point since the world is super competitive now. It is far more competitive different in 2008 and 2014 when I graduate from undergrad/grad.
@@G2rtTr try to get a PAID internship. every summer after sophomore year of college. I wish I had internships in college but I didn't take the chances.
The problem with software engineering is millions of people are graduating for garbage programs with no real skills. If you aren't graduating from Stanford or Berkeley, your CV just looks like noise. Also the barrier to entry is nil. If you can't point to an app you made, you're basically lying. Being a software engineer without a portfolio of work you can show is working right now is like being a chef, being asked to show a picture of your work, and saying "I haven't really like, had ingredients."
I got laid off end of Jan, I am in the UX/UI field and I have never seen it this bad. I also go laid off during the first wave in 2021 but managed to get a new job in 3 months. This time I have even made it to a hand full of final rounds to only be given the feedback "It was just that the other person had more experience." let alone I already have over the years asked for. What does this indicate? It means people who would typically take higher position are struggling and applying to lower levels causing mid levels to get pushed down/out and this trickles down. I don't blame them, we just want a job to put food on the table at this point but it is incredibly difficult.
I think something important, specially for those who are starting now, is to ALWAYS try to improve your coding skills and build a solid portfolio that you can show. That really helped me a lot when I got my first jobs, I didn't have the experience but I had something I could show
yes, I applied to over 100 jobs and cannot get one with my two degrees I get zero calls and zero interviews and it has been that way since I graduated in 2013. Why because I don't have any IT experience and I do not know anybody in the IT field who can get me a job.ITT-TECH was the biggest mistake of my fucking life. At least am student loan debt-free. I was thinking about taking out grants for a local college and getting another degree an associate's again but in Computer-Science. But I don't know am undecided right now.
Well, while degree is required at some places and situations, It does not stops you from getting the job in IT of you got skills. But the market is bad right now as she said in the video
I'm in IT. 4 years ago while I applied, almost every job would call me back. I think I applied to a total of 6 places, and heard back from 5 and had interviews. Went with the place that offered remote work and most money. I was recently laid off. I have much more experience than then, and I'm in the triple digits of applications. I had only 1 interview. If this continues people will start to riot.
Just an idea - do interim. Develop contacts, get a feel for the place, show them discretely what you can do. If no go, next. Your circle of contacts WILL develop. Unless you live n town of 700 people.
No we are not overpopulated. It's just the tertiary/service sector that is overabudant in supply vs demand. Primary and secondary sector are literaly starving for people, epsecially the primary sector.
I never found anything in social work. So I settled for teaching not the best I am in school to work in the healthcare field. After applying to financial aid I keep on getting denied. 🤦🏾♀️ it’s frustrating as hell.
Eventually most of these jobs will be done thru a big data center sever. Once A.I. takes over we won’t need people on a computer. Just people who can fix them and build them. Next gen of AI will do everthing . Lots of jobs will be lost.
I left my previous job to become a software developer but I don't know about anything about it. So, I learned and developed my skills in programming languages Unfortunately, I cannot find a job because most of the companies needs only IT experienced person but i am new to it. After so many rejections i found a job and selected for the Python developement intern and later for a full time job
Dude , I even started learning Python. Can you share what you’ve learned so far?And also, could you let me know if Python is a good choice? I asked around, and some people suggested going with Java instead.
@@The_Closedbook______ Java is also a good choice. I was interested in learning python for web development jobs.So far I learnt some frontend lang like HTML CSS JS react and backend lang like Python. Frameworks-Django,Flask Databases like MySQL and mongodb.
@@The_Closedbook______ Java and Kotlin are useful for mobile application development. For browser based development - javascript. Python is considered useful for data analysis and data science etc...
@@The_Closedbook______ java will get you opportunities at companies in old companies like JP Morgan or any big businesses. Which they will always need. If you opt to stick with python learn Django/Flask/FastAPI one of these and build an API. Then learn how to connect full stack applications with Javascript. And add more skills and more till you can build and deploy a full stack application using a tech stack. I own a newsletter where I share you links to opportunities and better chances of getting seen from the hiring processes. Say the word and I'll send it to you.
After obtaining a Business Degree, it took me over a year to find an entry-level position in a large company because I only had average grades. The graduates with Distinction and High Distinction get the best jobs from the top companies - similar to the movie The Firm. That was 27 years ago! There's a lot of smart Software Engineers in India, China and Turkey at half the price of USA graduates. If you wanna work from home, the Tech firms will hire cheaply from overseas.
I have a solution.. consider going into a different industry! Being a plumber or an electrician. You have to understand that that market runs on the law of supply and demand… not based on which uni degree is hard or easy
Yes! HVAC also is in demand and as the climate get hotter, AC work will probably be more in demand. Plus you can work for yourself! My wife quit her job after 25 years and started her own company. Don't be a slave to a Google or IBM.
@@latenightenjoyer The problem is you think your old when your not. Plumbing is a 2 year program and youll be glad when ur finished. There was a woman who went to school at the age of 38 to be a Lawyer. Ppl were like wtf your gonna be a lawyer at 45? she was like "Yeah I'll be 45 and a lawyer, instead of just being 45" Go into Trades. Do a search on indeed for which area has more opportunity. Pick one with high demand. Or even decent demand. Trust.
I did a master's in statistics as an international student in the USA. As soon as my degree program was completed I got a job in the USA with H-1B visa sponsorship ( cap exception ). My salary is nowhere near a " tech guy " but I have a job and a pathway to permanent residency in the USA. The "Tech" field is very much saturated that is my belief, but there are still lot of opportunities in the "traditional engineering" fields, life, and physical sciences.
@@pratiksrivastav Pretty much all large companies are multi-national. The issue here is the company hiring people on H-1B visas when there are qualified citizens or Green Card holders to work in the US for a US job.
Ive been in the workforce for over 40 years and I doubt I have filled out more than 50 job apps in my entire life. How is 750-2000+ apps even possible?!?!
@@Harsha-D311 why would she lie about it? And my friend is a software engineer too, so she helped her to prep the interviews…but still, no interview was offered. It is very tough for new grad CS to land a job that’s what I’m saying.
I have got an same problem in Business Analyst/ Data Analyst jobs search. Overall more than 14 years of Snr.SWE and Business Analyst experiences but I didn't get an interview in the U.S. And I am Graduated with Analytics in STEM major.
I knew it will end up like this when the whole "just learn to code bro" trend started.
But it only requires you to be the best in your domain, It did not ruin your chances as much as someone might thing.
@yusufansari9971 Except that by definition we can't all be the best in our domain.
@@fuzonzord9301 I know that I am, dont you 😄 just kidding, nice counter though.
well you have to blame the tech youtubers and all the other idiots, making videos about my life as a coder, waking up and drinking latte and saying how you can earn 250k just by writing a few lines of code.
These influeners have completely destroyed the tech industry by saturating it with people who are only in it for the money and lifestyle.
Now people who are passionate about coding and in it for the right reasons are being destroyed by all these imposters who really have no interest in coding but only want the money.
Even when the market recovers, the tech industry will never ever be the same again.
The tech industry will never ever pay the salaries we saw before because they will now have ai, and millions of swe applying for the same position.
Thank the tech youtubers for destroying the tech industry that was supposed to be for a chosen few and now completly everyone wants to be a swe.
Tech as we know it is finished.
@@jackblack1801 I think these videos has pretty much started out as a deliberate psy-op by tech industry giants. Like these people pretty much have no reason to do these videos for money unless they secretly work for HR.
Additionally, I think that a lot of "everyone can code" stuff was also about "pull yourself by your bootstraps" propaganda to avoid government addressing job losses due to automation.
I always found the organic "just learn to code bro" types in online communities annoying because they clearly didn't understand the concept of supply and demand. Like they just felt entitled to money because they were in tech and never considered what will happen when the industry will be flooded by people who follow their advice. Like they thought that they are being paid purely because of merit, not because of scarcity.
Thing about people who aren't passionate and at least somewhat talented is that they never actually get to phase of actually looking for a coding job. They usually burn out during the studying phase. Like that stuff always existed with the "I play computer games and I know how to configure a computer so I'm going to be a computer scientist" crowd that usually doesn't pass the first year.
It's simply that now there's a ton of people who are just adequate.
Who were passionate and talented enough to grind their skills for 1000s of hours but aren't anything special.
Generally, I really dislike most of people who make money on saturating job markets like work youtubers and even people who run training. They make sure that talent and very hard gets devalued.
It's even worse with art youtubers who are basically making money on telling hundreds of thousands of naive young people that they can also become online artists.
It’s not just tech, it’s everywhere. The economy is not great. It’s on a national level in every sector aside from healthcare where there are shortages.
yea , i was looking at comments im in Networking, but its not just any specific role in tech. Its the entire economy.
Yeah but in health care they treat you like shit thas why nurses are leaving n there is shortage for a reason
@@harrypotter7854
Medicine and Engineering; development of robotics, drones and weapons
I don't know how people with families and financial commitments are staying sane navigating the current jobs market. I don't have kids or bills, so getting laid off wasn't a major blow to me. I did find work again with great health benefits, but it's not my preferred line of work.
@harrypotter7854 newsflash-EVERYWHERE treats you like shit.
I've been a pharmacist since 1995 and I've literally NEVER been out of work more than a couple of weeks during that time.
After listening to this nonsense, I now have a newfound appreciation for my career....
i literally applied for 800 job posts but always sees the message-Unfortunately, we will not be moving forward with your application, but we appreciate your time and interest!!
I have a huge amount of skepticism for anyone that applied for 100+ posts and not had an offer. Clearly the issue here is you.
@@dallysinghson5569I agree. Do the opposite of what everyone else is doing.
@@dallysinghson5569 clearly you haven't tried to apply for a job
How long are you spending on each application? Spamming the same resume to every open position is not going to get you responses. Selecting the positions you’d actually be a good fit for and taking the time to adjust your resume accordingly is a far better approach.
@@mrgaudy1954 people lead senior people with +20 years of experience for top premium brands like spotify cant get a job after 100 applications.
More than half of the job ads are ghost.
Nothing makes sense anymore.
You can tweak whatever nobody gives a shit. They dont hire you for "standing out". Standing out only helps you to get interviews. They hire based on if they like you.
After earning two college degrees and accumulating college debt, I still feel inadequate for an entry-level position. YAY MEEEE :(
Wow! What college degrees do you have?
Reality cruelest dream
@@lionedheartprobably art and English
Lmaoo i dropped outta college Lucky i dont have college debt atleast.
I've been a developer for 35 years, I've never had so few (near zero, really) responses to applications.
Wow, so this is worst market you’ve seen in 35 years? 😣
@@PoojaDutt One of the worst job markets I have ever seen. But by thinking outside the box you can still get one.
Reminds me of dating apps. Men also get little to no responses from women. I see a pattern happening. Artificial Scarcity...
@@PoojaDutt yet there are people all over TH-cam and reddit stating that the job market for software was worse in 2008..... People keep ignoring the fact that cs and swe become over-hyped, causing everyone to decide they want to be a software engineer, and the tech influencers do have some part in this as well
@@SoulOctaviuswomen are the employers, you’re one of many candidates who might get lucky
But employers are asking at least 3yrs of experience for Junior positions.
This, this right here.
I think we should start to take seriously trade jobs cause they seriously need people. I can't accept to be broke as a software developer
true!!!
this is not okay! junior positions should be easier to get
You should still apply anyway. Usually the people putting together those descriptions are people on the recruiting team that have no idea what they're talking about. Hell, lie if you have to.
as a retired disabled support help, I would say that the best job right now is to work from home for an investment manager who will hire you to do records. I make over 210k annually.
wow, i have been looking for a job like this for a while now
please, more info on this.. some of my friends have been talking about this , and working for an investment firm remotely from home is my thing!!!
As someone currently employed in this role, I can confirm that being a Financial Records Specialist is the best job ever.
210k yearly wow , please how do i apply also ???
Could you tell me how to apply for this? I really need a job like this.
I got layoff since 2023/01. I applied more then 700 application , and only had 4 interviews. The anxiety of job searching is very very tough... I even tried to commit suicide twice. Luckily my mom stopped me...
Just a month ago I finally got a job. I was very fortunate to get selected (The HR told me that they got more than a thousand applications but only 79 made it to the final interview and only selected 28...)
It was very very very tough so I truly understood. So here is my advice:
1. Keep studying: We need to put down something we can't control. The only thing we can control is to keep studying
2. Don't over-study: I only study 5 new interview questions, 1 leetcode, 1-hour side project, and 1 chapter of any book per day. You don't want to push yourself so hard, chill a bit.
3. Ignore any negative feedback: People will keep telling you to give up, your parents, your loved one, your friend, etc......Don't listen to them! Keep trying, you just need one lucky time!
4. You can do it: If I can do it, so as you! Never give up!
Legend, great job! I'm happy you're still around. :)
what does it mean 1-hour side project, and 1 chapter of any book per ?
From 700 only 79 and even tailored to 28 so its 1:25 ratio, 1 in 25. You really need to take the interview process seriously guys, I mean not to much seriously. Also @alex0917ifo thanks your mother twice every day.
@@lolabus7132 It means only spending 1 hour on your project to improve your skills. And read 1 chapter of any book. I am currently reading Atomic Habit by James Clear
@@lolabus7132 he's just saying to stay consistent, varied in what you are learning, and progressing, while not over doing it, per day.
This market is 2008 again but we're told the economy is great (it's not). Companies don't do layoffs when things are going well they're holding cash reserves.
It's going to be even worse. Unemployment rising little by little. Federal statistic bureau says over 4% next year and keep rising till 2034
And funny enough the rich get richer, including the banks, some of them reporting insane profits.
Yeah but be optimistic. If we go through a 2008 scenario again, the job boom after the crash is sorted out will be insane. There were so many jobs created during the last recovery and now with AI, I feel like the next one will be even greater. Stay the course and never give up!
Only dems and liberals think this economy is great. Everyone else has known it’s shit .
@@kazakman7772lol 2034?!😂 what
Older generations basically conditioned us to get into STEM based fields and now that we’re in STEM based fields they don’t wanna hire us😭
Cry me a river. When it was good in tech you guys were raking in all the cash.
@@RajDeelish fym “you guys” ?😂
@@RajDeelishWhen it was good in tech we weren't even in college. So I'm not sure what you are talking about.
@@centipedekid9824 I think they assumed we were Silicon Valley millennials who joined the work-force when the tech giants were getting big😂
@@RajDeelish delusional
I've had 7 interviews (phone, zoom, in-person) in 3 months. The interviews go well, the hiring manager and others on the panel give body language that it's going well too, like big smiles to my answers. One lady on the panel would nod and wink sometimes, especially when I knew my answer were good. "great answer", "it's so good that you mentioned that", "yes, that really aligns with what we do here".
Yet I still get rejected : /
Be careful. They might think youre an experienced BSitter. Its good to show youre bit nervous during the interview. It always works for me.
They were just being "professional" during the interview.
experience the same - lots of happy signals during interview then nothing; often just ghosted.
Almost all American Tech jobs have been outsourced to india, that is why the American citizen cannot find a tech job, even entry level
very true. All of the tech jobs are going to India whereas Americans are left to flip burgers.
why is it foreigners taking our jobs
@@Donuts0.0 Outsourcing to foreign labor; Insourcing to illegal immigrants.
Nursing - Philippines
Tech - India
Manufacturing - China
Less-than-minimum-wage "blue collar" jobs domestically - Illegal immigrants
Everything else - AI makes finding full-time employment with benefits in a traditional "office job" increasingly difficult for those who are even qualified for the limited remaining positions.
Blud i am indian. Its not very great for tech here either
Hope isn't putting food on my table. I'm going to be out of a place to live soon and I can't afford to eat. I'm ready to clock out of life realistically it's just not worth it anymore.
Just take minial jobs cs is not worth it for humans with souls
The US Postal Service is hiring. call work at the mall because you get free Wi-Fi and music and it’s very chill. If you wanna make more money just work more hours, but the environment is very relaxing and there’s air conditioning if you work in the indoor mall.
@@IVvOOvVI yeah right! he just need to get a regular job
just get a regular job! there are plenty of good jobs out there that can help you to live and pay the place you live in, and go grocery shopping.
try
busking?
I graduated in May of 2023 and I still haven't found employment within my field. Things are rough, but I must keep trying and hope for the best. Much luck to all of you out there we will make it.
Same as you I have to work a shitty casino job for the time being..
what are you doing for work in the meantime
@@CC-br9qg hes hitting the coca cola.
Just admit you wasted your time in a school no one has heard of. You could have apprenticed to be an electrician instead.
@@aluisious Most people can’t afford brand name schools
No college degree guarantees job security in this era
regular jobs are still open
It still puts you ahead of those without a degree, that is the important part.
Lol i read that wrong, thought you said if you had no college degree that guaranteed job security rather than the correct not a single college degree guarantees job security.
@@Canadian-Boi-not really
Law, Doctors, Nursing, and Engineering degrees all guarantee jobs
Nothing provided “security” not even business owners
from Kenya here. Between 2016-2022 there was a real boom here. software opportunities everywhere. At one time in 2020 I got 3 trials, all at software businesses. Toward the end of 2022 I think the software bubble burst. Here the State is still convincing young kids to get into coding but I personally think the software bubble has burst. In 2023 after looking for a contract for 4 months without luck, I decided to go into motorcycle repair. Basically my journey finds me in a totally different career after about 9 years in the ICT game
Yes mate. Mechanical/Engineering work is frustrating, dirty and sometimes dangerous, and not many people want to do it. But you'll rarely be out of work!
The reality we live in is so crazy. It’s hard to comprehend.
2000 applications and still jobless.
been there, sorry for you
@@amandawilliams8715 thanks I just wish it would “change” or “let up”
@@TitanMoon746 Are you in software engineering? Because thats insane. you shouldve landed a job by now. Unless you are exaggerating
Try startups
Same! Looks like we’re going back to fast food
I’m so frustrated, marketing too is very competitive. It’s giving me depression, I can’t be this unlucky
Totally relatable. I've applied to so many jobs, tailored my resumes, and updated my linkedin and still nothing. It can be very exhausting and discouraging, and it is especially difficult for those who don't have the connections. To cope with this, if you have any hobbies or a passion for something, DO IT. If you are able to get money off of any kind of job, even better. But I suggest to focus on yourself, learn something new, and do what you enjoy for the meantime no matter the circumstances. I genuinely believe we are all capable of doing great things with the right mindset and creating some value of our own. Best of luck!
@@STEM_Rescue you’re right, I need to do something for myself. I do have a job that pays well, but I kinda hate it. Good luck to you
Honestly at this point the best way to get a job at a tech company is to start competing with it. Seriously. Start working on an app that does ONE thing better than facebook. Keep working on those types of apps and either: 1. They will start making money and you won't need a job, or 2. A company will hire you to do what you did with your app for them. Like real shit, it's either that or retail/warehouse right now. Build like a demon. Know leetcode fundamentals but make building the priority.
That's actually the best advice I've heard in a while LMFAO good shit.
Pretty much. To be honest this is good advise.
Maybe the bigger company can purchase it via business broker?
That's more like it. Sick of these AI fearing human nemesis of AI cry baby comments
@@benbowers3613 in my opinion leetcode is the priority. You won’t even get to the interview stage if you fuck up the automated code assessment.
I have been applying for the past 8 months for an entry level job, I have applied over 400 companies and barely got any interviews, I just have 1 year of experience in Software Engineering,
I'm just hoping that one day an HR mails me back with "Hi, we are going to move forward with your profile....." rather than "Thank you for applying, unfortunately we are not going to move forward......".
Anybody watching this comment who is stuck like me, hopefully you get the job as well❤
Applying for jobs was a bad experience back in the 90s. I can’t imagine how bad it is now.
Honestly companies are not hiring enough people even when they need. There is a scarcity of good senior mentors in the market for junior-mid level developers and companies are not ready to spend money to train and mentor. Senior developers are being overworked and are still pressured that they are not up to the mark.
Why hire someone if they can't produce right away? Work never stops and budgets need to be met. So you work 60-70 hours a week. I know I did. Profiles, not in-depth resumes were being used to get people in the job. A job they only ever read a book for. Drove me nuts.
I'm a senior dev (8+ years of working experience) and i can't even get an interview right now. Every job announcement on linkedin gets to 100 plus candidates in minutes from when it get posted.
I bpo sector they're exploitive as fuck
I learned JavaScript last year. Then Python. Then react. I didn’t apply to any tech jobs. I got a job as an assistant manager for an airport parking company. Noticed some of the apps were trash or completely missing, so now I’m actually building an app for them. I’m also have my own project I’m working on that will hopefully become a company.
At the end of the day, you have all of these coders fighting to be an employee chasing high salaries, when this is a skill that you can use to create your own.
FR, all these videos are like watching painters crying that no one is hiring them to paint, and when you ask to see their portfolio, they stare blankly at you.
You're a "developer?" Cool, develop something. No? OK, you're not a developer.
a lot of developers already have very well sophisticated projects that should be WELL OVER the line for entry level. doesnt mean you need to turn it into a full business. that takes a lot of resources (time, mental health, money) that may not be worth it in the end.
Very good! Most tech grad just want a 100K+ job right out of college, so they end up with nothing.
I honestly thought I was the only one. I'm not a software engineer, I'm a journalist (with both a BA and MA) with over a decade of professional experience. Applied to tons of jobs in the last four years. I did get an interview or two, but ultimately I always get "we've moved on with other applicants" 'IF' I even get a reply at all
You are funny. If you hold a MA then it follows logically that you have a BA.
@@myoutuber77 IKR shocker of all shockers
From Melbourne AU. I relocated to Melbourne from Hong Kong. Has been finding a job for almost 9 months... I totally got 2x interviews and 6-8 times in second interview but finally no luck... you know.. it is so tired to keep finding a job and preparing an interview, especially I'm not a native english speaker, it is a big challenge for me.
In last week, I completed a second interview for the IT role at hosptial. Hope to get this job finally...
Good luck 🙏
@@heartchai8654 finally I got a job offer in this monring. Thank you ❤
@@fire284a congratulations! Im also from Melbourne struggling with the same problem but im glad you got the role!
@@fire284a congrats!
@@fire284aThat's great! I'm happy for you!
You guys are strong hey, 700+??? I would've called it a day after 50
I’ve done 100+ job applications pal, not Computer Expert line of work, but you you know what I am saying, I had enough after 100+ applications, 💀🔫
I think this girl applied for 70+ applications, but making it out she applied for 700+, that’s 🐂 💩, it would take about 5 years to make 700+ job applications, I know… because I’ve been there, mass lay offs in software development only started in Jan 2024, how can you make 700+ applications in six months
But sure enough it must feel like 700+
A lot of these people are just spamming the same resume to every position available without taking the time to focus on the positions they’d actually be a good fit for and adjusting their resume accordingly.
@@mrgaudy1954
No My Friend, I think situation more difficult than that, people know what they are made of, that’s what I have been told all this life, you got to target blah blah blah, I have grow sick of this shit man, this is a different situation, I know what it is like to chase bullshit jobs for years upon years, and can only imagine how it must hurt for folk in 💻 Dev sector, because it was high paid,
Its bad enough getting sacked for any crappy job, but a high paying job, to having to live on baked beans and toast 💀🔫
Bud the girl didn’t do 700+ applicatons, she will have done about 70+, she’s exaggerating, she can’t have apply for 700+ since January 2024, she is bullshiting; 70+ probably, it would take about 5 years to appliy for 700+ applications
I went off my nut after 100+ at the best of times
@@Jmbr-eh6xrno 700 plus may be real like if you have been unemployment for a year your full time job is job searching so I kinda think it's real
I been had this problem 7 years ago when I was fresh out of high school. I applied to a bunch of jobs and struggled to get interviews. These were non tech jobs and it was still tough. Even if the job was doing something simple like mopping floors. Back then people thought I was crazy and not working hard enough filling out enough 100's of applications. The landlord doesn't care if you're having to fill out 1000's of job applications. They want their money for rent for the month.
Well you cant blame the landlord. It's not like the tax collector cares the landlord has not collected his money to pay the property taxes.
Im a master student and can‘t even find a job as a working student
Huh?
Same. Fml
I was unemployed in January '22, and like many here, sent out countless applications (including to employment agencies). Finally that August (7 months later), i worked at a Fedex warehouse for a month (to get some $$ come in). Then i was hired to work as an amazon delivery driver for another month. Then i was hired by one of the employment agencies to complete two short term assignments (one in Nov, a second one beginning the following January). Then i was finally hired for a new full time position in March '23 as a GIS analyst. So i was between full time positions for over a year, and I took several low paying jobs that were in higher demand just so i wouldnt drain all my savings. I imagine some/many here are doing the same, but i hope this is helpful and I wish everyone success.
And then you gotta get past the interview 😅
Which is another hassle
@@jasminedtucker don’t go to the interviews. Those people are just wasting time.
And it seems that this is not only about the tech industry or even the US market, its ALL AROUND the world even when you have experience.
Networking with people who learned how to stand out or got the job is the most important thing. It is extremely hard to try to figure out the job market alone.
I'll be 55 soon, I have an IT job, not dev, but I spent my life doing coding, not sure if I'll ever find a dev job
Have you considered talking to the dev team? Even just scheduling some "coffee breaks", and asking about what you could work on? You already have your foot in the door, maybe start with testing?
@@juanmacias5922 ah, so certain individuals who knows my skill, have approached me with odd jobs, that the dev section will not do.
And I have done a few projects that are running in production now.
@@juanmacias5922 I agree
@@juanmacias5922 exactly, following this path, I'm coding while working at Finance dept. and I'm quite happy with that...
@@juanmacias5922yes, it is a good idea
“It’s the sum of all small opportunities that will eventually give you your big break”. This was very motivational, thank you!
At what point do you say, maybe it's time to move on to something else?
If you have a plan B, just move in to it right away.
year 1971- ibm advertised for 5 jobs - you had to take a test - lasted about 2 hours - questions all math - got the job - sent to ibm school to learn hardware/software mostly fortran - became a field service engineer - 1980 - plants and refineries started automated - got a job installing and programming factory automation - worked in several plants till i became a department head along the way i taught myself excel-access database and how to program cad software - always be looking for the next big thing and never stop trying ;-)
Shut up boomer
The IT Market is very rough too. Requirements going up and wages going down.
"You will own nothing and be happy" - Seems like we're headed towards that reality.
I graduated during the pandemic and have been on rocky ground ever since. As soon as I finish college, the job market gets screwed up. It is hard on the self esteem.. especially when my friends seem they’re able to find something
I was furloughed when the pandemic started. My employer directed everyone to file for unemployment. I found another job that paid more within three weeks of being laid off. I worked all through the pandemic when most of the economy was shut down. The employer that furloughed me still wants me to come back. Most other people opted to stay home and collect the extra $600.00 in unemployment benefits. Employers I have dealt with find it impressive that I worked through the pandemic, and chose not to stay at home.
I am a college student (Pre nursing) no one will hire me. I am also a massage therapist but I want to get out of the field. It’s depressing! 😢
Stay strong darling
How is no one hiring you in nursing …
My neighbor works for a nursing home. She said there were layoffs because so many patients died of covid, there are a lot of unoccupied beds...that haven't been repopulated. Of course that's just one place/nursing category. I would think nursing would be the easiest job hiring wise...might have to move to a less lucrative/in-demand area.
I went for an JDE ERP developer job.
My manager told me the reason she hired me was bc i was young and that majority of the ERP Developers are near to retirement (5 years or so).
Also, market yourself (and actually learn it) as someone that understands Accounting.
why?
Software is only based off of business demands.
I think everyone needs a reality check. AI is only just getting started. You need to AI proof your career. For those who can its time to go into trades , HVAC, Nursing, Electrician, carpentry and other service industries. It's time to learn a backup hands on skills that AI cant replace . Better still, start your own business.
Don’t mean this as an insult, you’re kind of right but you also need a bit of a reality check.
Degrees are a massive investment. Most people can’t just be like “Oh darn this field I went to school for four years for (and possibly have even more years of school/work experience in) and invested tens of thousands of dollars into isn’t working, time to become a Plumber!”
The individual should do what they can yes of course, but at least for AI displacement, depending on how rapid it is, that’s something that needs to be solved systemically.
@@ytrqwee What's the purpose of a degree if you can't feed your family? I only posted those as examples. This young generation has really gotten so lazy. They can't even use basic tools. I hear some saying they quit their jobs to be 'content creators'. Is that a realistic career path? You invest tens of thousands of dollars just to work for one employer that uses you as he or she likes and can terminate your employment for any frivolous reason. Doesn't make sense to me.
@@eechaze12 I am actually thinking about this. I am not from engineering background but I am a career transition, trying to make a career change into tech. Currently I am unemployed. I don't want to go back to my previous industry. I browse through job portals almost daily & I see how terrible the situation is. I am thinking to learn trade. I lack in direction on how to go about it.
Problem is there are too many young people all wanting the softy job in front of a computer . The IT/software industry is saturated heavily because so many choose the same fields . Get out a hammer and nail and slap a house together you lazy pricks.
Why would ANYONE pick a career where you have to apply to literally "2000 jobs" to MAYBE get an interview, let alone a job?!?!
Really, what is the attraction? Especially when all of these jobs are supposedly in such "high demand" when obviously they are not.
Because they were good at it. Is that so fucking hard don’t understand?
@dante6563 just because you're "good at it" doesn't mean you should make a career out of it.
@@patricksears163 not in all cases but in most
Because I can only pick a career based on what I majored. I couldn't even find a job related to my major, how could I get a job in another field without any experience?
Nurse here. I quit here and there because how management and patients can treat you. Also takes a long while to get hired for another position because hospitals and other similar settings are just not wanting to hire due to shortages. It goes both ways. And it’s a lose lose situation.
Stay the fuck away from tech right now if you can
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm so blessed to find a job paying me ten dollars more than my last job . At my last job I did not gotten a raised in 4 years. So happy
What kind of job is it?
At this point it is easier to get a girl from tinder rather than getting interview
I had one interview, went terrible..they seemed to seek a team and not a person. Otherwise I've been ghosted..🎉
I agree with other posters that sometimes location can make a difference. However, Forbes has done a few articles on ghost jobs. According to the Ludwig Institute, it is also possible that the true unemployment rate is 24.3%. A resume rewrite to pass the ATS system is also helpful. The main suggestion is that you may have to build something--app, website, ecommerce store, etc. (For software engineering, Verizon is offering apprenticeships in some cities in VA, NJ, and TX.)
Yes, just read article on the ghost jobs. So many fake job postings. Tech is a huge field where employers keep applicant files in their catalogue for when they sooner than later actually need to hire due to high turnover rate yada yada. Not cool that the ads don’t match genuine desires for hires
The verizon apprenticeship already ended almost a year and a half ago
i have a BSc, and MD, 20+ years in the industry and a successful software company. i like to have a work outside my own business and it has taken me 7000+ applications over 1.5 years to land a job. i'm lucky that my business provides me steady income. i imagine it's incredibly hard out there without a fall-back or other income to keep going.
At this point i get anxiety when theres a message from indeed or my gmail, its usually always with unfortunately, we have decided to move forward.... i still applied to over 30 jobs the other day so you know fingers crossed, just keep going guys what else is there to do?
I applied to over 1200 jobs and I got only 4 calls from the HR ,and only in 1 job, I had 3 interviews and got rejected in the last round with only 4 candidates.
Its all on luck but some people will still judge you. I would suggest to do certifications if possible, it will add value in your resume , Also tailor your resume with all the keywords written in the job description.
What's your response to "don't spray and pray"? In other words, show pride in your job application even if it means applying to fewer opportunities. That means having samples that showcase your skills on Github and TH-cam videos on how to use/deploy your repo items. It also means a cover letter. My main challenge is that I moved over 100 miles away from any major city to cut expenses and weather the downturn. I'm still trying to figure out how to manage that.
Yeah, I've been adopting the more realistic approach - applying only to jobs that I feel I'm a realistic fit for, because let's be honest - people who are using AI apps to apply "everywhere" are contributing to the problem as to why jobs have 500 applicants within the first hour it becomes available..
Certainly, a more dignified approach
That really is a good point. best thing to do is what you can do.
Don't spray and pray is easier said then done. When you are unemployed and burning through your saving it's kinda hard not just apply to any position posted.
here in indonesia almost shock you, 7.2 million young people struggle gettin in job
Location can be a HUGE factor! One advantage that an untethered person can have is being willing to relocate. Keep your apartment empty and your dufflebag packed, be ready to chase jobs
It sucks ass going from making loads money to nothing over night, New year 2024 is nightmare for 💻 programmers
problem is that the place you're relocating to, is the cost of living worth the income?
The companies will quicker hire the locals.
lol i've lied about my location over 100 times to the companies local position for jobs i was overqualified for. still no response
@@loser9336
I know, its a lot of shit, also talk about doing voluntary work, supposed to look good on the CV/Resumé
Bullshited it on a CV and made no difference, when you are in the shit you are in the shit, if anything if you do voluntarily work what it says in reality is that you are someone that cannot get paid work
I'm graduating this month and been applying since last month. 179 applications, no interviews. Ones that have replied back are all rejections. Tho i'm one month in job search process, signs so far aren't something to be hopeful of, sadly preparing myself for the long haul and drought of applying with no end product
try to review and fix you resume
@@roderickferrer8405 yes thanks! I have a call setup for tomorrow to get it reviewed by professional..already edited it three times to make it crisp and cut down extra spaces, looking forward for some more insights
Are you applying for internships? Don't stop working on projects.
Also your skills should be on a level, you dont have to be master but that is what is required bare minimum.
@@juanmacias5922 no i have already done two internships with total 16 months experience. One was at an agtech where i worked within Salesforce industry andmy second coop was at a govt. corporate which was more programming heavy(Java-Gosu) and we also collaborated with Deloitte team for the project there, so I do have that exposure, alongside with multiple hackathons and my personal projects.
Sales is always hiring. It is the oldest profession and can make you 6 figures if you have charisma.
Bootcamp isn't gonna cut it in today's market.
I’ve applied for thousands of jobs and I’m still unemployed. Literally have a masters and am doing Ubereats
People need to look at what occupations are in DEMAND before going to school. Then you want have this problem when you graduate. I've never heard of people who went to school for nursing, plumbing, or welding say that they were unemployed after graduation.
You can't major in your hobby anymore, you have to be realistic.
Lots of jobs are being outsourced to cheaper countries.
Here in India also fighting to catch up for single opportunity, huge competition is going
Everybody is trying to get into coding, EVERYBODY. You're going to have to compete against immigrants from Asia who will work at half the salary.
They took our jobs!
@@Hellmiauz And they are driving down wages. It's a legitimate grievance. Countries that aren't controlled by international capitalism and Zionism actually take measures to protect their people from this.
Nothing to do with immigrants. You will get the job if you are good enough. Government should encourage startup founders.
Typical cry baby comment
@@realnapster1522 Not true. Companies like IBM Global Services bring cheap labor into the US and companies job on it as it's low cost contract vs having employees to pay for. I know as I worked for IBM.
I know this may sound shallow....but if you came from another country like for say, India, why dont you look for jobs there? They may have something....but then again, jobs there do lie....its a reason why scams are very high...
I havn't had too much of a problem getting interviews since I was laid off May 31, 2023. However its slowed down abit in the last 2 months. I just applied to the company the laid me off and they got back to me a week later. The hiring manager was "very interested" in me. This a different hiring manager for a different team. Its just kind of annoying how picky these hiring managers are. Like I wasn't a perfect fit when I got the job in the first place, but now I fit pretty much exactly the stack, and the responsibilities.. Im just a perfect fit, but I couldnt get the other 12 jobs ive interviewed for in the last 12 months.
Must be frustrating. Did you finally get a job yet?
@@IVvOOvVI nope. still looking. No interviews since july.
@@IVvOOvVI Im going to have to leave my dream home ive been working so hard to get. all these years wanting to be here, now gone. I have lost too much of my savings, im pretty much where I started when I got my last job. Im likely going to need to sleep on a friends house at 37 years old. Ive been trying to get to afford a place thats 2 bedrooms in my city but I cant sustain it if I cant get a job soon.
just put you have over 100 years of experience just to play it safe , that should seal the deal
Even if you can get a job, that still doesn’t mean anything. If it’s a low paying job with little to no benefits, it’s not even worth it anyway.
Jobless since 8months
Was too sick and now i feel i am forgetting every small things
The only way for a sustainable future workd where eveyone can lead a decent life and have access to basic resources is by reducing the global population. With increasing automation and AI we see more job losses in the future. Most of service jobs will become obsolete .
To everybody saying “I sent 700 applications in a month” those sound like really rushed, sloppy applications. Take your time and shape your resume to the positions you would actually be a good fit for.
Linkedin quick applications.
Typical boomer answer. Not in touch with modern life.
@@robbiel8677 You’re delusional, how is spamming out shit applications in any way a good response?
@@robbiel8677 Okay, keep using the same approach and childishly dismissing any conflicting views, that’ll help. 😂
@@mrgaudy1954 ok boomer
Don't give up. In 2022 I had 40+ interviews for 200+ applications. and finally 4+ offers. but ya it took about 2-2.5 months. I know the 2024 market is alot tougher and more saturated. I would specify my skillset to the job I want and focus on specific, tailored jobs rather than generic applications. Also specialize within the industry . I worked in three vastly different industries in 3 years but only because "general" skills were much more in demand in 2021-2023. But moving forward I see due to saturation, extreme niche, specialization to a specific industry vertical in ANY part of the tech industry or general industry is extremely necessary as employers can internally hire and promote candidates and have less incentive to hire someone qualified from the outside but may not know the internal industry lingo/jargon that while not directly relevant to the job skills needed is requisite in becoming a SME (subject matter expert) on the software product from tech or business/product side.
I have 6 months of experience as a IT support/ SEO & HTML programmer
I wasnt doing much coding, but basic IT tasks with some html help development and Csv documents writing for a company alongside some basic admin tasks.
Im currently in my second year as computer science student and I havent sent any applications yet since i need to write my resume but do you think is it possible to get a job with this experience as a junior?
The issue is that if I graduate i dont want to have this problem of "trying to get a SWE job with no experience,but every entry level job asks for experience"
@@G2rtTr Try to find internships , earlier the better. As a college student I would try to find internships the earlier the better or do an unpaid internship or project if you can't get a paid internship. Try to have something tangible by your senior year. Normally I would advocate to not work freshman and sophomore year but now the earlier the better since the best students/schools have multiple jobs on their resume by the time they graduate. Having an internship after freshman, sophomore, and junior year of college is worth it at this point since the world is super competitive now. It is far more competitive different in 2008 and 2014 when I graduate from undergrad/grad.
@@G2rtTr try to get a PAID internship. every summer after sophomore year of college. I wish I had internships in college but I didn't take the chances.
The problem with software engineering is millions of people are graduating for garbage programs with no real skills. If you aren't graduating from Stanford or Berkeley, your CV just looks like noise.
Also the barrier to entry is nil. If you can't point to an app you made, you're basically lying. Being a software engineer without a portfolio of work you can show is working right now is like being a chef, being asked to show a picture of your work, and saying "I haven't really like, had ingredients."
Cal them up on phone if they reject you and ask for an interview. That was how I landed the best job ever.
I just quit my 9-5 hour job now looking for something else it’s so brutal out here smh 🤦♂️
I got laid off end of Jan, I am in the UX/UI field and I have never seen it this bad. I also go laid off during the first wave in 2021 but managed to get a new job in 3 months. This time I have even made it to a hand full of final rounds to only be given the feedback "It was just that the other person had more experience." let alone I already have over the years asked for. What does this indicate? It means people who would typically take higher position are struggling and applying to lower levels causing mid levels to get pushed down/out and this trickles down. I don't blame them, we just want a job to put food on the table at this point but it is incredibly difficult.
Why is it that every job is over saturated now? Even just a cashier at the grocery store is a hard job to get. What the actual hell?
Fast food jobs are also hard now LOL
Fast food jobs are difficult to get except McDonald's
I think something important, specially for those who are starting now, is to ALWAYS try to improve your coding skills and build a solid portfolio that you can show.
That really helped me a lot when I got my first jobs, I didn't have the experience but I had something I could show
yes, I applied to over 100 jobs and cannot get one with my two degrees I get zero calls and zero interviews and it has been that way since I graduated in 2013. Why because I don't have any IT experience and I do not know anybody in the IT field who can get me a job.ITT-TECH was the biggest mistake of my fucking life. At least am student loan debt-free. I was thinking about taking out grants for a local college and getting another degree an associate's again but in Computer-Science. But I don't know am undecided right now.
Well, while degree is required at some places and situations, It does not stops you from getting the job in IT of you got skills. But the market is bad right now as she said in the video
1500 applications and counrting 100 is not that many at this time you are going to have to go a bit more .
I have a degree in computer science from a public university and I can’t find work yet. It’s extremely disappointing.
I'm in IT. 4 years ago while I applied, almost every job would call me back. I think I applied to a total of 6 places, and heard back from 5 and had interviews. Went with the place that offered remote work and most money.
I was recently laid off. I have much more experience than then, and I'm in the triple digits of applications. I had only 1 interview. If this continues people will start to riot.
Well, I’ve had a computer science degree since 2021 but haven’t been able to get a job
Just an idea - do interim. Develop contacts, get a feel for the place, show them discretely what you can do. If no go, next. Your circle of contacts WILL develop. Unless you live n town of 700 people.
We are overpopulated. I keep saying this. There are too many people chasing after limited jobs
No we are not overpopulated. It's just the tertiary/service sector that is overabudant in supply vs demand. Primary and secondary sector are literaly starving for people, epsecially the primary sector.
I never found anything in social work. So I settled for teaching not the best I am in school to work in the healthcare field. After applying to financial aid I keep on getting denied. 🤦🏾♀️ it’s frustrating as hell.
Minimum wage jobs aren't even hiring.I've called at least 12 stores that have hiring signs outside, but management says they're not.
This deception is part of the problem. Those with a job can't understand how someone else isn't working also.
Those signs are decoration just to look good
Why pay for a domestic Indian when companies can import them directly from India for less cost?
Maybe quitting is not always a bad thing
I got some interviews, however I got rejected from all of them.
Eventually most of these jobs will be done thru a big data center sever. Once A.I. takes over we won’t need people on a computer. Just people who can fix them and build them. Next gen of AI will do everthing . Lots of jobs will be lost.
I left my previous job to become a software developer but I don't know about anything about it. So, I learned and developed my skills in programming languages Unfortunately, I cannot find a job because most of the companies needs only IT experienced person but i am new to it. After so many rejections i found a job and selected for the Python developement intern and later for a full time job
Dude , I even started learning Python. Can you share what you’ve learned so far?And also, could you let me know if Python is a good choice? I asked around, and some people suggested going with Java instead.
@@The_Closedbook______ Java is also a good choice. I was interested in learning python for web development jobs.So far I learnt some frontend lang like HTML CSS JS react and backend lang like Python.
Frameworks-Django,Flask
Databases like MySQL and mongodb.
@@The_Closedbook______ Java and Kotlin are useful for mobile application development. For browser based development - javascript. Python is considered useful for data analysis and data science etc...
@@The_Closedbook______ java will get you opportunities at companies in old companies like JP Morgan or any big businesses. Which they will always need.
If you opt to stick with python learn Django/Flask/FastAPI one of these and build an API. Then learn how to connect full stack applications with Javascript. And add more skills and more till you can build and deploy a full stack application using a tech stack.
I own a newsletter where I share you links to opportunities and better chances of getting seen from the hiring processes. Say the word and I'll send it to you.
If you’re new to it, don’t expect on getting a job, especially if you don’t have a compsci degree or at a bare minimum bootcamp experience.
I thought I'm going to be crazy, we're going to 😎😭😭
After obtaining a Business Degree, it took me over a year to find an entry-level position in a large company because I only had average grades. The graduates with Distinction and High Distinction get the best jobs from the top companies - similar to the movie The Firm. That was 27 years ago!
There's a lot of smart Software Engineers in India, China and Turkey at half the price of USA graduates. If you wanna work from home, the Tech firms will hire cheaply from overseas.
'Muh Welder shortage!'
> Wants Bugatti level performance for Junkyard Car pay
Im ux ui/ graphic designer with 3 years of experience. I cant find job since 2023. I have s thoughts. Im tired.
Does that "s" stand for what i think it does?? you need to get help
I have a solution.. consider going into a different industry! Being a plumber or an electrician. You have to understand that that market runs on the law of supply and demand… not based on which uni degree is hard or easy
Yes! HVAC also is in demand and as the climate get hotter, AC work will probably be more in demand. Plus you can work for yourself! My wife quit her job after 25 years and started her own company. Don't be a slave to a Google or IBM.
Yep❤❤
i graduated in computer science and i have no fucking skills to become a plumber
I wish I did this when I was younger. My
Ego got into the way . Dolla dolla bills yall
@@latenightenjoyer The problem is you think your old when your not. Plumbing is a 2 year program and youll be glad when ur finished.
There was a woman who went to school at the age of 38 to be a Lawyer. Ppl were like wtf your gonna be a lawyer at 45? she was like "Yeah I'll be 45 and a lawyer, instead of just being 45"
Go into Trades. Do a search on indeed for which area has more opportunity. Pick one with high demand. Or even decent demand. Trust.
God it's horrible, 1000 applications over 2 years, finally got a bite recently BUT...2 months of 8 interviews for the position, haha wow😂😂
theres a lot of jobs. just try construction and blue collar jobs. :)
too many people chose the comfy option, now there's too many of them
sadly ... blue collar aren't hiring anymore
OnlyFans?
@@realnapster1522 that WAS one of my ideas... but it ain't for me-
What kind of blue collar jobs?
Thanks!
I did a master's in statistics as an international student in the USA. As soon as my degree program was completed I got a job in the USA with H-1B visa sponsorship ( cap exception ). My salary is nowhere near a " tech guy " but I have a job and a pathway to permanent residency in the USA. The "Tech" field is very much saturated that is my belief, but there are still lot of opportunities in the "traditional engineering" fields, life, and physical sciences.
And maybe your job should have gone to an equally qualified US citizen or Permanent Resident instead.
@@benu_bird maybe the employer should prioritize hiring in-country
@@benu_birdas if those tech companies earn from America only.
@@pratiksrivastav Pretty much all large companies are multi-national. The issue here is the company hiring people on H-1B visas when there are qualified citizens or Green Card holders to work in the US for a US job.
@@benu_bird The reason why companies hire overseas people is simply because it's hard to find an equally qualified citizen.
Why doesnt this world changenit "youre hired and you are not alone"
Ive been in the workforce for over 40 years and I doubt I have filled out more than 50 job apps in my entire life.
How is 750-2000+ apps even possible?!?!
My friend’s sister graduated from NYU with CS degree hasn’t been able to land a job. And no interviews either. It’s really tough out there…
Either she's lying or she didn't put in the work
Nyu cs degree is valuable and prestigious
@@Harsha-D311 why would she lie about it? And my friend is a software engineer too, so she helped her to prep the interviews…but still, no interview was offered. It is very tough for new grad CS to land a job that’s what I’m saying.
I have got an same problem in Business Analyst/ Data Analyst jobs search. Overall more than 14 years of Snr.SWE and Business Analyst experiences but I didn't get an interview in the U.S. And I am Graduated with Analytics in STEM major.
Have you gotten a job now
@@ElizabethSuccess1 No, I just keep applying and nothing happen to me yet
@@yangnoo5799 are you ready to get a job?
This is what is my problem too. I haven’t been able to land a job a year after graduation.
Entry level position, must have 2 years experience 🙂