VW / Audi 1.8t 20v 5-600HP Engine build On a Budget

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  • @budgetoutlaws9978
    @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    CLARIFICATIONS!! READ THIS AFTER WATCHING!
    First off thanks for watching guys! With something like this its easy to overgeneralize, forget something, or get details wrong.
    1. First part of the video about 06A vs 058 being large/small port with 19/20mm pins was a massive over-generalization. Link below for actual facts on the 43 different engine codes for the 1.8T. Please do your research on what your engine is.
    www.bar-tek-tuning.com/1.8t-engine-codes
    2. The crank gear needs to be dealt with at these power levels. Best option is a billet crank gear ($200)that is press fit on. Dowel Pinning is another but it has been known to fail.
    3. ?? Please comment and let me know what I missed! Lets keep this up to date!!
    Thanks guys!

    • @beefysghost867
      @beefysghost867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You forgot boostline rods

    • @ramzyhicham6419
      @ramzyhicham6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Upgrade the oilpump and oil to 10w60

    • @Chris6068
      @Chris6068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LPSfab makes an amazing manual timing tensioner kit, I've got it installed on both my B6 and my GF's B6.

    • @GetBruno
      @GetBruno 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for such good information :))

    • @angellajara7510
      @angellajara7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greetings, thank you for the video, very good. I have a 2004 jetta mk4 1.8. Would you please tell me, wich is the audy cylinder head compatible with this jetta, greatly improving performance of the same, thanks.

  • @Nothy
    @Nothy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    I heard that the 1.8T is a very strong engine for tuning from the factory, but I never really realized how over-engineered it is. It's bonkers and makes me respect my 1.8T so much more.

    • @MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP
      @MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Stock will take 300 bhp

    • @ahmadalbab5448
      @ahmadalbab5448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP
      Stock?1.8t 20v????

    • @MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP
      @MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ahmadalbab5448 hell yes stock its the rods that R the week point on them

    • @zedgerton73
      @zedgerton73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP it will take 300 ft-lb*** anything after that your risking your rods a 300 ftlb 1.8 makes like 260-270hp ish.

    • @zedgerton73
      @zedgerton73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Slap bolt ons and a unitronic tune and it’ll be a really fun car! The 1.8t builds power good and they sound nice . I’ve flogged my awp 1.8t out for 15 miles straight at over 150 mph screaming and it loved it. Exhaust mani got so hot some turbo to manifold bolts actually backed out. Turbo wasn’t mad either (f21 kit) held 22 psi the whole way😂😂

  • @PressureEd
    @PressureEd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Big love man, thanks for making this. There's is not enough 1.8t content on TH-cam

    • @TheNebuniciul
      @TheNebuniciul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it is content , Boba Motoring from Germany that make 1200 hp use alot this motor 1.8 T :D check it

    • @jordancroukamp8030
      @jordancroukamp8030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheNebuniciul where can I find the info? Thought he only did 16v’s

    • @TheNebuniciul
      @TheNebuniciul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jordancroukamp8030 I remember wrong, he do only 2.0 Liter I think,
      The 1.8 i think others tuners tune it until 1000hp +, in America i think i must search again that video

    • @krzaczekwegorz1135
      @krzaczekwegorz1135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree👍🤝

    • @dantesinfernopurgatory7826
      @dantesinfernopurgatory7826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheNebuniciul Boba Motoring builds use the 2.0L 16V ABF motor.

  • @josephdillinger5538
    @josephdillinger5538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I have watched this video probably 10 times it’s a great explanation for anyone who wants to build a 1.8t

  • @tommylyeah
    @tommylyeah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I don't even work with VWs, I just like listening to tech talk like this- might learn something applicable to any other setup.

    • @davidrobbo27
      @davidrobbo27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same here I had no reason to watch this though I'm glad I did, subscribed straight away. Great info very well presented!

    • @alekdamyanov375
      @alekdamyanov375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah I'd say about 80% of this info applies to almost all 4 cylinder turbo engines, import and domestic. Of course the power levels each component will be able to handle will differ and there are some additional parts needed depending on the motor.

  • @dariusgriffin3627
    @dariusgriffin3627 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just got a MK4 1.8t. I’m so excited about tuning it . Going to start from foundation

  • @deanbrevis8163
    @deanbrevis8163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is about the 4th time I've watched this.
    Need some vr6 and r32 content now if you haven't already.

  • @Oskariii
    @Oskariii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching this video about a year ago made me want a 1.8t. Now I'm rewatching with plans to upgrade my a4b5. Thanks!

  • @J.BA_Slow
    @J.BA_Slow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m making 475+ wheel at the moment (62/66 big turbo car) and my max rods have given me ZERO complaints, definitely would by again

    • @unstable-8169
      @unstable-8169 หลายเดือนก่อน

      honestly as long as you check for any major imbalances or machining defects and weigh them/match them i've seen them hold up 200hp PER ROD just fine

  • @a4fuelpump
    @a4fuelpump 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Wiseco also has Boostline rods available for the 1.8t rated for 1000hp

  • @sonoutlawuk
    @sonoutlawuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This vid comes at the right time, now i have a guideline to mod my 1.8t. thanks!!

    • @benm12310
      @benm12310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hope it turns out well, I love my AEB gtx30 setup very much!

    • @dujuanjohnson5025
      @dujuanjohnson5025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benm12310 do you have stock displacement? or stroked? thanks

  • @TheAngelaxelbmx
    @TheAngelaxelbmx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This has to be the best video explanation for the 1.8T who wants more horsepower, I'm tired of asking and asking for info but here I'm clear, thank you so much!!!

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was pretty much the point of this video series. So everyone can get a clear and to the point understanding on what to do to make and hold power.
      Be sure to check out the next video in the series about fuel injection.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/quh7jo5p_4o/w-d-xo.html

    • @TheAngelaxelbmx
      @TheAngelaxelbmx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 there's a Email or any private way to contact you for extra support?

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best way is probably through the Facebook page. Send us a message through that and it will come directly to us. If you don't use messenger then our email BudgetOutlaws@pacbell.net.

  • @swype.media-9309
    @swype.media-9309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is the most informational video about an engine with numbers to back it that I’ve ever seen. Great video man!

  • @liam-lh2nm
    @liam-lh2nm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant video. I am going to be buying one and i aim to push only 300 at first. Maybe 550 in a couple years but this video has made my decision to buy one. So much potential

  • @doubledook799
    @doubledook799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    just picked up a Passat and learning all the fun i can have

  • @matiasrosell5498
    @matiasrosell5498 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Just want to say thank you!! And I’ve been working on a few motors for about 2 years on my Audi TT Quattro 2001. I’ve went insanely in-depth with everything I learned and seeing this now I’m happy that someone is clarifying this all now. I bored and stroked my motor to roughly a 2.1/2 L and I make 700hp reliably with everything else. I want to try everything you have said on my next motor and see how they compare and I can improve on all your information. I hope you wouldn’t be troubled if there was a way I could contact you for more in-depth information. I’d love to push these motors to there limits. They have been a blast working on!!

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Probably best to message me through the Facebook Budget Outlaws page. It's not active at all but it goes directly to our messages. I'm by no means a end all be all for these motors, but I do have some contacts that have helped me develop this list that have immense knowledge. My goal here as I mentioned in the video was to put down in a simple to understand format what the current understanding is for these motors and how to hold the power.
      I would LOVE to hear the details on your motor and the trials and tribulations you've had and will have in the figure on it. Thank you!

  • @PapiChulo-jp3kz
    @PapiChulo-jp3kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video, I’m only aiming for about 300-350 horsepower in my 1.8t so it’s nice to see not much is really necessary

    • @tomhofland9351
      @tomhofland9351 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get the 300hp??

    • @DYLZY
      @DYLZY ปีที่แล้ว

      ?

  • @Adam-uu5pt
    @Adam-uu5pt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First time finding this channel.. Can you make an extended version of this video? As in, like 2-3 hours of just tearing down an engine and talking about each component as you get it off and sharing whatever random wisdom you may have. Doesn't even have to be an engine, I think I could watch you explain how to fold laundry or balance chemicals in a pool 🤣
    I have no idea what it is about this video or your ability to explain things clearly but 10/10

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Next time I rebuild an engine I plan on doing a full length How To video or videos on it.

  • @Rickie-37
    @Rickie-37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Porting the head will help with turbo lag, torque band, lower cylinder pressure/temperature, and overall power gain from every additional component that improves the air flow. When done right on a big turbo big cam build, it is really easy to get 40hp or more out of porting the head properly, and you will gain a lot more drivability too. It is one of the few upgrades that makes the build better in every way with no sacrifices/compromises. Must do in my opinion

    • @dujuanjohnson5025
      @dujuanjohnson5025 ปีที่แล้ว

      Porting actually make you lose velocity when driving off boost.

    • @szymontrojanowski7565
      @szymontrojanowski7565 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dujuanjohnson5025boring big holes in place of the ports does that. Properly ported head is one that gives you desired characteristics in NA motor, and it will be awesome boosted.

  • @MrSpeed808
    @MrSpeed808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    a german guy ,philip kaess makes a flowbench test between the small and big port intake manfold ,and it show that the small port ones not only better in lower revs ,it shows its a bit more better even at high revs .he was doing his research for his 1/4mile audi rs4 b5 with 1100Hp ,and he was surprised how the smallport performed .greetz from dortmund

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was planning to make a custom homemade flowbench when I built a bigger manifold. Very interesting findings here!!!

  • @TheSapShop
    @TheSapShop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just bought a 1.8t motor to rebuild. this video helped a lot thank you

  • @gearheadadrenalinedean2214
    @gearheadadrenalinedean2214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've loved japanese engines of all kinds especially the Honda engines d,h,b,k series. After buying my 02 golf GTI 1.8t and had sooooo many aftermarket parts and upgrades on it plus a apr tune stage 3. I absolutely fell in love! 5 speed manual. Over quarter of a million miles too. This thing is strong and God so fucking quick and fast! Idk if I'll ever go back. Nothing like German engineering. I've always know but never experienced it first hand myself. I'm blown away with how many aftermarket parts this car and engine has. The most I've ever seen with a vehicle and I'm 32 and worked on cars/trucks all my life

  • @yaboi7485
    @yaboi7485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Finally the video I was looking for thank you!

  • @ziddywerks
    @ziddywerks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Great video!! I am in the process of a similar build using a 06A block with a AEB head and lots of other goodies. I think the video is very informative but a press for crank gear is a must, also using ekagrip diamond shims and arp bolts throughout is a must also ARP bolts for the mains is a good idea. Adjustable cam gear is a good idea as well as swapping AMB cam chain tensioner and trigger wheel to use in a AEB head will help with boost and NA cams with some overlap will help as well. Lots of NA 1.8 cams available out there ADR has 2 different versions. ADR are known to have the most lift. I personally got APT cams as I couldn’t find ADRs with the lift I wanted. Ceramic coated AEB pistons will do the job.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love the insight!!
      Thanks for all the helpful tips!

  • @honoraxis7457
    @honoraxis7457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Somewhat recently bought a B5 A4 1.8t and theres a couple of things ive been wanting to do but wasnt able to find any good forum posts explaining which was best for my application. This definitely helped. I have a Garret GT2871 turbo and the car revs to 8100 RPM so I was trying to find a good set of valve springs but was having trouble finding reviews. Appreciate the video im probably gonna come back to it many many times to see what I want next

    • @georgecollins2347
      @georgecollins2347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that on stock rods? What power? Thanks

    • @honoraxis7457
      @honoraxis7457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgecollins2347 No longer have the car but it was forged rods (Not sure what brand) and made around 350whp on 18psi. Couldve turned it up more I just didnt trust the rods cause I didnt know the brand

  • @GCS88
    @GCS88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video is criminally underrated.

  • @olibrewster3232
    @olibrewster3232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Also billet crank gear and kevlar timing belt. Its not part of the motors but if you want to reach the 500 mark on a budget then run water methanol.

  • @zedgerton73
    @zedgerton73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that this vid is only 9mo old goes to show the 1.8t still has relevance and it’ll never die. Baller engine super affordable, pretty damn bulletproof...and the mk4 gtis are so sexy done up right 💪🏼 put a 2.0 stroker bt in a gutted gti with a o2m you’ll hurt every super cars drivers feelings....gapplebees babyyy 1.8 nevaaaa looseeeeee!!! Nothing like beating 300k cars with a late 90s gti with a 4 banger sleeper😂

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From what I can tell there has been an increase in popularity of the 1.8t being a platform for building even just since this video, which is confirmed by the fact that so many aftermarket companies are still and continue to produce products and solutions for the engine. I don't think we're at the peak of this motor yet. I think we're going to start seeing a lot of 700-1k HP builds in the near future. In fact I'm considering doing another video on that when I build a motor in that area of power.

    • @zedgerton73
      @zedgerton73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 I just totaled my mk4 gti it had a awp engine swap. I’m planning on salvaging the engine to build into a stroker and slap it into a mk1 225 Audi TT. My goal is 550-600 reliable hp. The 1.8 is a very good engine. I was trying to find another gti donor but for a similar price I can just get a tt with haldex. I’d like the idea of being able to actually launch it without roasting the tires. I was considering a golf r but I can’t justify spending that money when I can just build a bulletproof 1.8 and slap er into a tt for cheap. This is a very good build guide video btw man good work!!

  • @jakeeames725
    @jakeeames725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2004 AWM 1.8t 5spd 4motion. Not bragging... ok I am lol love this thing. Planning on driving it for the next 50 years and this info will help

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keep up with all the plastics in the engine bay every 10 years or better yet eliminate as much as possible. The 1.8 is a very solid motor and has very little common failures in a stockish form.

  • @britishbatman8598
    @britishbatman8598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a very helpful video to all 1.8t owners 😎👍🏽

  • @bryantstock4591
    @bryantstock4591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Finally someone who speaks the truth about 1.8ts on the internet again. I would recommend some cat cams for your setup. I'm running the supertech valvetrain with the cat cams and it was the best mod ever. Paired it up with a M factory LSD at the same time and the car completely changed! Keep up the great vids my dude! -A fellow 1.8t loving ginger

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is the next mod that the car will see for sure. Plus a dual port wastegate actuator that's sitting in a box right now. We've got an event this weekend and then both the 1.8 and the 5.7 are going to be getting significantly more power.

    • @bryantstock4591
      @bryantstock4591 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!! You’ll be so happy with the cams!

  • @melvinkimble7709
    @melvinkimble7709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have done some mods and arp head studs on the original motor. Did all this research 10 years ago. Still have her and now I think I will fully build. Running gt28rs, stage 2 eurodyne, 44mm open dump.

    • @Mattryanfisher
      @Mattryanfisher 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you ever do this rebuild or get a newer gtx or efr turbo?

  • @abrahamfranklin2746
    @abrahamfranklin2746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5.48k subscribers? Wtf.
    Everyone needs to subscribe to this dude. NOW!

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I appreciate that, I actually made this video when I had about 600 subs. This single video drove about 3k subs subs so far. But unfortunately I don’t have much time to dedicate towards 1.8T content so the channel is lacking that quite a bit.

  • @alekdamyanov375
    @alekdamyanov375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was very informative. Just one thing I didn't hear about was the fuel. I remember when I was younger I did as much as I could on a budget on my AWP 1.8T and wish I would have known about the first bottle neck which is the fuel. I had no software, just a 4.3 volt diode on my map sensor so it doesn't go into limp mode and then manual boost controller. I pushed about 23-24psi out of that KO3s. I did do a full custom 3" exhaust, intake, diverter valve and front mount intercooler. The impressive thing was that I could take on stage 2 APR and GIAC stage 2 setups.

    • @alekdamyanov375
      @alekdamyanov375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      oh and another crap piece that kept going out was my coil packs. I think went through 5 of them in the 4 years I owned my GTI. I ended up getting Audi S8 coil packs which never gave me issues once installed.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have another video about fuel. It's a bit generic, but it goes into sizing a system for your power goals. Check out my playlist on how to build power for a quick link to it.
      I really can't reccomend the diode mod, however I have seen it done. The Wideband ecu's can be cracked pretty much for free now aways so there's no real need to go that "80s" with it ;)
      I had an APR tune, it's really conservative, typically only 17psi, so I'm not surprised your able to blow them apart. Apr /GIAC made a conservative boost table (Depending on which tune was flashed) and bumped timing up to try and increase the longevity of the turbos.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes coil packs are another thing... I went red tops myself.

    • @alekdamyanov375
      @alekdamyanov375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 I was just out of high school and couldn't afford software. This was back in 2007-08. I was surprised how well the diode mod worked for me but absolutely wouldn't do it now. Like you said plenty of choices to do it much better these days.

    • @alekdamyanov375
      @alekdamyanov375 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 cool, will check it out!

  • @notyouraveragegoldenpotato
    @notyouraveragegoldenpotato 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been doing this for years. Have several as well as 2.7tts. I've blown 4 motors since I installed IE rifle drilled Tuscany rods. Those rods live on to this very second😂 damn good rods

  • @kx250braap
    @kx250braap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely love these engine they rev to the moon make great torque stock and just sound cool with a cat back

  • @DelEast740
    @DelEast740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible video. I'm building a stage 3 with cams as well as a ko4. 350 to 400 is my target goal. Then hand the keys to my son. Can't wait for winter in Hocking hills in the Quattro

  • @dujuanjohnson5025
    @dujuanjohnson5025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best 1.8t video hands down!!!!!!!!! I love my 1.8t ❤️

  • @Steyreon
    @Steyreon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much! I am planning to go for 300bhp...seemingly a piece of cake 🎉😊

  • @50french23
    @50french23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Calm, collected and well thought out thank you

  • @malcolmadams2105
    @malcolmadams2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must say I only barely got one and I am amazed how cool this “little” motor is. Crazy power here I come!”

  • @AndyMcClements
    @AndyMcClements 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Underrated post !

  • @ItsViirn
    @ItsViirn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If i can ever get around to it.... i got a 01 awm 06A. With just building block im looking at $1400+ thats. With whole block built. Minus. A few hundred. Here or there. Love the video!

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 ปีที่แล้ว

    2023 and still Top shelf information.

  • @jolmeaki
    @jolmeaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I gave my B5 A4 1.8tqm away. Was going to build it but had to move and landlord said I can't have 2 cars. It had the old APR stg2 tune, exhaust, clutchmasters 240mm fx400 kit with flywheel, swiss cheesed stock airbox, S4 suspension, HD swaybar endlinks in the rear, new control arms in the front, new shock mounts in the rear, RS4 motor mounts, snub mount, 3 sets of wheels- 2 stock 16" 1 17" off another audi. And just did the coils and spark plugs before giving it away. At least it's on the road and the person actually loves the car. I'm enjoying my B7 A4 2.0tqm with unitronic stg1 tune and 034 high flow cat and a cup kit with eibach springs and koni shocks. Still want the B5 back though.

  • @rc.attucks
    @rc.attucks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent breakdown. Easy to understand the steps needed to reach your HP goal.

  • @willsmith8586
    @willsmith8586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am here for the 5 hp motor. Thinking about moving lawns 😄. Thanks for the video.

  • @johnsheikh3831
    @johnsheikh3831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IE tuscan rods are art.

  • @socaljr9526
    @socaljr9526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad TH-cam recommended this video, because I am installing a turbo on my 07k motor. And I am planning on building the motor as well to handle the additional power.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same basic motor with an extra cylinder. Be sure to check out @"Boost Brothers Garage", Mike has some great info on the 07k.

    • @socaljr9526
      @socaljr9526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 yeah exactly thanks for the detailed video! I have already purchased my turbo manifold from them for my 07k build🤙🏽

  • @MycketTuff
    @MycketTuff ปีที่แล้ว

    Picking this engine simply for the sheer abundance. The 2.2 will always be the wet dream but.. It's so much more rare. Plus one more cylinder means one extra rod, rings, lifters, valves, springs, nuts and bolts etc.
    I generally learn by failing and I'd rather on a 1.8 :D

  • @angelalvarez8214
    @angelalvarez8214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HI mi motor 1.8 T trae todos lo que se le pudo metre y funciona muy bien, esta forjado para 1200 hp, te recomiendo busques utilizar empaque de cobre con anillos de cobre para usara HI BOOST, este empaque de cobre lo debes fabricar a medida, posterior calentar rojo vivi y enfriar en aceite, para cuando los aprietes selle muy bien, cuando lo instales usa un espray de cobre por ambos lados y asegúrate que los anillos de fuego no se muevan, estos anillos deben de sobresalir del block del motor 0.18 de pulgada, lo cual se encaja en el empaque de cobre, sellando perfectamente cada cilindro!!

  • @kotelypiesely1268
    @kotelypiesely1268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there are legends of stock forged rods in 1.8T's, it's a legend because nobody knows which get the forged ones, and which don't

  • @MycketTuff
    @MycketTuff ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like this format, been here a few times already, huge help

  • @uploader235
    @uploader235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Also 058 AEB pistons are factory forged, later are cast. A good budget option is to use AEB pistons w/ the 20mm wrist pin in later 06a motors. With h beams ofc.

    • @rsantos12
      @rsantos12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      send me some AEB pistons pls (not even kidding)

  • @Theo-tp2wv
    @Theo-tp2wv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Have a 2000 mk4 1.8t here - looking to add some torque and horses. Thx for the vid..

    • @bassmunk
      @bassmunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. Finally some reliable and complete info in a video! 👌

    • @StopTeoriomSpiskowym
      @StopTeoriomSpiskowym 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Problems with fuel pressure? Or injectors

    • @Theo-tp2wv
      @Theo-tp2wv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StopTeoriomSpiskowym no probs with fuel system. But water pump beginning to go(15500+Mi). Replaced hoses, belts and sensors to start, went from there...

  • @615hjp3
    @615hjp3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got my hands on a 1.8t 225 can’t wait to build it

  • @straus1777
    @straus1777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    clean hands for someone building performance engines

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not my day job as I mentioned in the video :)
      Also myself and many others think gloves are quite wonderful ;)
      Side note.. how many engine builders do you see who wear collared t shirts?

  • @richardevans3951
    @richardevans3951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you! That’s an awesome amount of info for someone in the planning process of tuning on a budget, which I am. I’ll have to research some parts with your info, and make a shopping list. Top man!

  • @iancharles23
    @iancharles23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm currently working with Malone Tuning about to go to stage 3. K04 turbo kit from Rev9, intercooler upgrade, 380 cc injectors, new timing belt kit, 3inch MAF sensor housing, SAI & EVAP Delete on my 2003 VW Passat 1.8t B5 FWD Automatic. I was originally Stage 2 pushing 215hp. Seeing this video makes me want to jump to stage 4 + but my wallet says no for right now.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That auto trani won't hold any more than what your going to currently. Be careful with torque spikes with your current setup. Tell your tuner to run a conservative boost curve down low.

    • @iancharles23
      @iancharles23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 is there any way to upgrade the Trani? I've been told the same thing by other professionals too. I'm not sure what to do other than making the tune less aggressive.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not particularly. You can increase the pressure in the lines with a TCU tune but it's just not worth putting big money in that auto trans. There are places like LEVEL TEN that can put stronger internals, but we're talking big money for little return. I would save your money so you can upgrade to a manual awd car, it's a much better platform to build on.

    • @PedroRamirez-ri7jw
      @PedroRamirez-ri7jw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@iancharles23 what did you end up doing? Don't see a lot of talk on automatic trannys

    • @GuthriesAutoRepair
      @GuthriesAutoRepair 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@PedroRamirez-ri7jw I gave up on that vw passat. I ended up selling it and kept it at stage 3. New owner eventually ran it hard til it died. I now have a 2004 VW Golf TDI 1.9l BEW engine that has a manual transmission and is tuned by malone tuning as well.

  • @alekdamyanov375
    @alekdamyanov375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is why I love Honda K series. A K20A can handle 600+ wheel horse power without opening the motor. Just fuel and boost + tuning and you are there.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Most of the guys with Ks don't go over 400whp without going into the bottom end. I'm sure there are the oddball guys that will go much higher and bend a rod at some point. But that's a risk.
      Personally I like the closed deck block on the 1.8 vs the Ks closed.
      The K sure is a great motor though, no doubt!

    • @alekdamyanov375
      @alekdamyanov375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 yeah if it was me I wouldn't go over 400whp on a K20. I'm sure the bottom end won't hold up for too long with anything over that.
      The guys at Humble Performance who specialize in Hondas got 631whp out a K20A2 which is what I was referring to.. just thought it was quite impressive when the engine is not even turbo from the factory.

    • @ivonevistic3776
      @ivonevistic3776 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alekdamyanov375 and sometimes is better to have more driver mode than ridiculous power! specially on a fwd car

  • @andrewmakram1504
    @andrewmakram1504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First 06a block even have big port head and 20mm wrist pens like agu engine
    Sec you forgot to take about the crank gear
    Keep up good work 👍

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both good points! Thanks!
      I'm not as familiar with the 06a engine as much as the 058 so I appreciate the added knowledge!
      The crank gear is definitely something I forgot to mention. It should be dowel pinned when making big power, it's a cheap and easy task.

    • @hansbrekke4784
      @hansbrekke4784 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AGU (golf mk4 gti?++) is like a 058 besides the block.

    • @LounaticE92
      @LounaticE92 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enta bt3ml eh hena 😹

    • @andrewmakram1504
      @andrewmakram1504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LounaticE92 Ana fe ay 7etta fehaa 1.8T 😂😂😂😂

    • @LounaticE92
      @LounaticE92 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewmakram1504 3amel ala2 ya3ny 😹

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is probably the 5 time I’ve watched this video over the past year.
    Thanks for your great content.
    🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀🍀🍀😎

  • @Moto_Medics
    @Moto_Medics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ive got one of these but have no plans on doing any of this. Point being youve got yourself a sub due to the amazing presentation, i wish this info was as well explained for other platforms/ when i was just starting out!

  • @leedesmond1617
    @leedesmond1617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AGU Earlier golf 1.8T had forged rods already installed where as the AUM golf later was not so the earlier are more capable of more power aswell due to being part forged

  • @dujuanjohnson5025
    @dujuanjohnson5025 ปีที่แล้ว

    058 block also has a external accessory belt driven water pump compared to 06a timing belt driven water pump

  • @Tuonon3n
    @Tuonon3n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Came here just because of saw stalker racing team using 1.8t on drift car. Nice information on this vid.

  • @davenewton5895
    @davenewton5895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I have been crawling TH-cam for the last couple years looking for Dyno sesh’s with my same build 2003 06A AWP Block/ 058 AEB Head, inconel exhaust valves/stiffer valve springs, Forged rods/Pistons/rings, new coated bearings (main and rod), ARP2000 head studs,Elring OEM seals, 5bar FPR, HellCat 550LPH, 1000cc Siemens Deka injectors, large port intake manifold, rear mount T3 manifold, hood exit vband downpipe, CX-Racing GT3582R .70A/R-.63 A/R turbo. On ME 7.5 ECU with Winols base map tune, on 93 octane. E85 in the future. Power goal short term 450whp. Long term goal is 800-1000whp. My crank is also forged and pinned. Also have Stage 4”Daily” south bend clutch kit. Also lowered 2” front and rear on maxpeeding rods adjustable coilovers. 2003 VW New Beetle GLX ,5-speed MT, 02J (from TDI) longer ,stronger gears.Taller gears. It’s built to Handle 800WHP. But I can’t afford the software, I’ve got $5200 into this build right now , will have Haltech Elite standalone engine management when I can afford it. Great video/ info. Keep this 1.8t content coming !

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Killer build! There's a couple cars out there with similar builds. Your definitely going to get to the limit of those injectors, especially if you run E85.
      Can't wait to hear the progress on it when you get it on th road! Keep me informed!

  • @gratefultedd969
    @gratefultedd969 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really great video. Touching all the bases and straight to the point. Subbed!

  • @adowie01
    @adowie01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this..this is a great resource for rebuilding my 03 a4

  • @dameagerbeaver7703
    @dameagerbeaver7703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My sodium valves at 250k 😥. Great video. More depth the the manual tensioner ( how often tension adjustments are made) and timing belt (gates Kevlar vs. continental to respective power/rpm), preferred water pump, and camshaft chain gear tensioner. Thanks🙏

  • @cainmarko4084
    @cainmarko4084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1.8t Jedi Knowledge Ry-Hurr, Thank you for your time most wise Jedi Mechanic!

  • @gregr3283
    @gregr3283 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect video for planning a build, thank you.

  • @20vtechnik
    @20vtechnik ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m an in-line 5 guy but this fella knows his stuff. Thanks for sharing!

  • @pepitopalotes6849
    @pepitopalotes6849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had an S3 18T AMK. iIts reliable and with stock turbo you can make over 280hp easily.
    ECU stage 1 is basic. They are running pretty dry (fuel/air ratio) and they usually broke headers/turbo because of that

  • @beefysghost867
    @beefysghost867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im building a.motor myself. Using boostline rods, tubular manifold, precision 5858, 83mm je pistons calico ago race mains and rod bearings. 1000cc injectors and all kind of stuff.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a great combo! Valves springs and cams as well?

    • @beefysghost867
      @beefysghost867 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 been trying to find a good set of cams, looking at 210 210 eurospec ones. think is what they are. The but I will prob get thr valves and springs you was talking about.
      Now i got to figure out what to do with the transmission to keep it from puking metal guts all over the road.
      Also i preordered a turbo concepts intake manifold forgot about that.

  • @moncier77
    @moncier77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 225 Audi TT with KO4. I’ve been in the fence of just selling it. Cause it seems I can’t ever find enough in the states to make them fun.

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fluid dynamic dampening is a thing.
    There’s plenty front pulley’s that use fluid dynamics to calm different harmonics.

  • @peterwhite7252
    @peterwhite7252 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been watching lots of stuff on American v8 with big cc, and here you are with 1.8 turbo GTI getting realy big power.🤔😂

  • @ursixx
    @ursixx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Teamprawnracing has a bunch of videos on his A3 build. Dyno'ed over 500.

  • @hunter3899
    @hunter3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just remember that IE rods are forged in china and machined in Utah. They will have similar grain structure to max speeding rods but the tolerances will just be better.

  • @KowalDWR
    @KowalDWR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    163hp/220nm - > 230hp/360nm with my 1.8t. Engine might be tune friendly, but one can run into problems with dfw, clutch, exhaust efficiency and drivetrain(if a car is fwd like mine is). Not to mention brakes.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True! If it's not one thing it's another! Things need to be upgraded in packages!

  • @edgartome7328
    @edgartome7328 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all the information I have an Audi TT mk1 and I would like to get it to 600

  • @WalkToPoland
    @WalkToPoland 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to build one of my own

  • @hendrikhanso
    @hendrikhanso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good introduction to 1.8t life. I like that you compared all the different options etc.

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks heaps for your videos... Your the one dude that helps us owners dream. 😎🤜🏼🤛🏼🇦🇺🍀🍀🍀🤓

  • @StopTeoriomSpiskowym
    @StopTeoriomSpiskowym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Polish cams, better injectors, higher fuel pressure, better turbo, bigger intercooler, and different cams shaft. that more powerfull 1.8 T type like BAM got different intake too

  • @blazzyfr9643
    @blazzyfr9643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this video! I wonder if you can also make more videos for more engines? ✌

  • @fapper_dapper
    @fapper_dapper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I gotta say, I really appreciate you taking the time to spell all this out in a easy to understand video. There isn't too awful much in depth talk of things like this for the 1.8t. I have done hours upon hours of reading on the internet about the 20v 1.8t but hearing someone speak about it is super nice.
    One question I have is about using an oem timing belt vs the Gates Racing Kevlar belt. I've heard the kevlar is known to snap but is it worth it for the power? Is it really that prone to snapping? If you had any input to that, I'd love to hear it.
    Also, the use of 2.0T coil packs vs oem coils.
    I've been using 2.0T coil packs and NGKBKR7E copper plugs at 0.028. Stage II software on a AWW engine. Change every 10k miles. I keep seeing people using platinum and iridium but I've read several places that the 1.8t doesn't like them.
    I'd also like your input on a good turbo to replace my tired k03. I'm looking to make around 400hp as reliable as possible. Not chasing lap times or 1/4 mile times. ( i wrote this comment right before you said something about another episode about turbos )

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thats the exact reason why I wanted to make a video. Lots and LOTS of posts about it but no one has gone and put it to speak, or explained why certain things are the way they are..
      Gates belt is certainly a good choice if you have that option. Its only available for the 06A motor though.
      OEM coil packs gets into ignition of the engine, I only wanted to go into the basic mechanics of the engine in this video (It was already 25 mins long..). Certainly worth the extra spark of the later coilpacks (Whichever option you go, there are a few).
      Plugs are certainly another issue. I've ran platinum before, and many tuners like to just run the NGK's because they are tried and true and they KNOW they wont have issues with it.
      I'll have a turbo sizing video in a couple months. Fuel injection is next (Possibly this weekend). 400CHP reliably depends on a lot of factors. Some people run Hybrids that high, but your really pushing a small frame quite a lot. Pro would be spool. You can make 400 on a GT2871 or 76, or get into the newer turbo tech.. A G25-550 is a solid choice as you have headroom plus you wont be pushing the turbo to its max (Im a fan of leaving headroom, less PSI and less heat, plus less stress on drivetrain and engine internals), but the cost of that turbo is high. You could go the chineese G25-550 option but you would have to get it balanced at a turbo shop. Its really all about budget.

    • @fapper_dapper
      @fapper_dapper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 Thanks for the detailed response man. Definitely some food for thought.

    • @jon-erikhegstad7228
      @jon-erikhegstad7228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 my next step is looking for the turbo comparison video. These are great videos thanks. Is a ko4 really a bolt on upgrade for the ko3 turbos on a 2001 b5 A4 1.8t AWM(early) or is there more to it than just plug and play? It's a quattro avant and it's been chipped. I've recently done a Gates racing timing belt, stage 2 SB daily clutch, 034 HFC, and it has a few other goodies too.

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Constructive criticism... your sound has static in it. You can find free software to remove that easily. It’s just an automated filter. Sound does come before and is more important than the visuals. 🤜🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺🍀😎

  • @jdportwerks6795
    @jdportwerks6795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also forged internals! On aeb also max speeding & scat are made by same supplier in China

  • @SaskGramCracker
    @SaskGramCracker ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey 2nd cousin? Im Graham Blayone and im into the Vw 1.8T's too

  • @Wwiaftm69
    @Wwiaftm69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video 👍🏻 vr6 budget build next would be fun to see

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to do a VR6 or 07K build video and put it in our 944 turbo. Currently deciding what we want to do with that car.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to do a VR6 or 07K build video and put it in our 944 turbo. Currently deciding what we want to do with that car.

    • @Wwiaftm69
      @Wwiaftm69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 my guy 👍🏻please let it be a 12 valve

  • @FocusSE2009
    @FocusSE2009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All right so I'm going to try to make this short and sweet I just got a 2016 VW Passat R-Line 1.8T I love the car it's amazing It's my daily driver and I would love to do enough work to get it right up in the 350-400 WHP range just to make it quick enough to be fun to drive but nothing I'm going to be taking to the track or doing anything crazy with cuz I still want to keep it as my daily driver so am I living in a fantasy world or is this something that I should be able to realistically achieve I'm looking for opinions let me know I appreciate them all 🤘🏻😈🤘🏻

  • @renealferes8207
    @renealferes8207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait to install my gt2871r on my 04 b6 a4!!!

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh that's a great turbo! A bit old tech but fantastic powerband. Right on the cuff of needed rods though.

    • @honoraxis7457
      @honoraxis7457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got the same turbo. If you have the 1.8t like I do it spools just at about 3k rpm but fucking rips. Im only on 18psi right now with fully built motor making 360wheel. Should make around 450 wheel on 22psi when I finally get my valve springs, New IE rods, and an E50 tune.

  • @koda101ninja
    @koda101ninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A video on the old Audi 5 cylinders would be slick

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh boy do I love the old 5 cyls! That sound is just intoxicating!

    • @koda101ninja
      @koda101ninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@budgetoutlaws9978 finally fixed the exhaust on mine, now I'm not lumped in with the Hondas anynore haha

  • @zachwright8011
    @zachwright8011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks so much for this vid!! Starting an audi TT build soon and this is great info!

    • @avancalledrupert5130
      @avancalledrupert5130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too . I'm not a vag guy historically I'm a Honda guy .But a civic type R is £5000 .
      TT is £1000. It's already boosted and 4x4 . Yes it's no where near as good as a k series . But the entire package as base point it's a no brainer really .
      Making a civic 4wd is a massive task and over 300 hp fwd is not really the one unless you just want a drag car . But I'm all about grip cars and corners.
      I'm just looking for a budget build b road blaster and the maths says get a tt . I do want over 300hp though which means rods at least to be reliable long term .
      K it's like just add boost and go all the way up to 600. But I think over all having to open the engine might be worth it for all the other work I won't have to do elsewhere.

  • @masterbaeten88
    @masterbaeten88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am eating Taco Bell while watching this. I see you too enjoy Taco Bell.

    • @budgetoutlaws9978
      @budgetoutlaws9978  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOVE Taco bell! Met my wife working there, and still eat it more than any other fast food.

  • @ivanbossi7314
    @ivanbossi7314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great info and video man!!!

  • @luisrew12345
    @luisrew12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    IE has their camshafts back on their website.

  • @tonyregalado7281
    @tonyregalado7281 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great information! I'm in the process of build a 1.8t stroker on 06A block. I'll be using the 2.0T FSI crank with aftermarket rods. I was wondering which 2.0Tf factory forged pistons would work with this build? Boring and honing is not a problem. I really don't want to drop $1k on aftermarket pistons, especially since I won't be making the power most of them are rated for. Thanks!