Vinicius Jr is right. I've been watching La Liga for 2 decades now and for many years monkey chants & throwing bananas onto the pitch in Spain has almost been normalized and shoved under a rug whenever people question it. Ask Ashley Cole & Shaun Wright Phillips what they experienced when they played for England against Spain some 19 years ago in Spain. Ask Eto'o or Dani Alves what they experienced whilst playing for Barcelona at away stadiums. The audacity of some of the top officials in Spanish football denying that it exists is mind boggling! What I like about England is that they take action against such behaviour. Can't say the same about Spain unfortunately.
As per LaLiga president: this season, eight out of nine racist insults were against Vini. The implication here: why this guy is always the trouble-maker. My only question: what actions have been taken after the eight insults against Vini? Shame on you, Mr. Javier Tebas!
Blablabla.... Produce a case based on a collective of testimonies about racism in LaLiga instead of just one based on one of the dumbest egos in the league. Vini is undoubtedly getting taunted by crowds and players because his whining victimplaying ego is such an easy target. If you think it's mainly about him being black, you never watched Vini play. His ego is an easy target that triggers many willing to trash talk not just racists...
What actions have Tebas taken after the 8 insults against Vini? He denounced them and made a formal request to have the authority to punish that himself. But if he's not given that authority, what can he do?
@@billcarson818 I am sure they'll change in time. But it will take time. In the meantime, foreign players should choose other leagues where they know, they won't have to face racism from the majority. Of course there are racists in civilized societies as well, but numbers matter.
@@Being__Ricky Considering the housing crisis and the high inflation it will probably be the case that racism will be more common in the future instead of the opposite.
@@DaddyFutbol 9 away games... A player received racist chants in 9 away games.... 7 different stadiuns all over Spain... If you put yourfelf in his body you probably would think...Well All Spain is probably racist...
@LegendaryKing suck it up and just accept it Sounds like someone who hasn't experienced such a predicament where a whole stadium is mocking you for your complexion Whether it's a few or more, it's terrible to have someone experience such acts against them regardless of their profession It's absolutely moronic to hear a fool echo such sentiments If you have nothing good to say then shut up
Why shame? Western Europe always uses black players when the white ones cant play good. France won every world cup thanks to them, but when they miss a goal they are abused. Lukkaku said the same for Belgium. Sorry but western europe is build on racism, this cant happen in eastern europe, cus eastern europe never had colonies and racial laws. I remember Croatia was attacked by france media cus "we did not had black players" sorry we dont have them cus we did not had colonies, and the only one we have we dont call him black, we call him dudu from Brasil whom everyone loved and noone abused.
Pele also suffered racism. The fact that Vini has suffered this his whole life including Brazil speaks to his prejudice and determination. He will go down as one of the goats.
Does racism happen in Brazil? It just happens that if you are exposed, you become so dirty in society that everyone starts looking at you very negatively. I'm not in favor of that, but there was a time when a Grêmio fan called a goalkeeper a monkey, her life was completely destroyed, they even set her house on fire.
The sad thing is that la liga has officially summited 9 reports of racism/hate crime to the police. 8 of those reports have been about Vini Jr. La liga had an opportunity to make an exemplary punishment for the atlético Madrid fans with video and audio abusing Vini Jr and they didn’t.
Spain is a racist country. I don't expect much from a country that just left a Fascist dictatorship not that long ago. Remember, those grandfathers and mothers are still alive and passed on that racist bs to their children whose grandchildren are the ones doing the racism in the stadiums. Just ban them from Champions league, World cup, and Euro 2024 for both the men and women. Boycott la liga.
Honestly, the more I let it sink in, this entire season and what this young man had to deal with. The lengths he fought for his club and took them to every championship possible in 18 months. The more I realize just how disgusting this entire situation has reached. I'll keep supporting Real but in the only league they even care about, the UCL, but outside of that, I'm not even going to bother watch La Liga. No more subscriptions to streaming companies and no more summer tour tickets. This is going to also affect summer transfers. Why would Jude want to come play in Spain when this is happening to who many say is the best player today? You'll see how La Liga will respond when the money is affected. Whether those responses be genuine or self serving is another topic. But why would a 19 year old bi-racial young man want to LIVE in a country that has normalized these racist acts. They seem to see it as, simply locker room talk. Like, its ok because it's just passionate fans.
ESPN commentators part of problem w/ victim blaming: “We must stand against the racial abuse of Vinicius. But he is not saint. He is provoking fans and that is not right." “Vinicius getting racial abuse is bad, but he needs to take a look at his own actions." NO - blaming the victim is not acceptable, do better!
Most players of color in the league don’t get this form of racism tho? I mean there’s a reason vini gets most of the abuse compared to every other player of color in La Liga, it’s cuz he’s a great player but is easily swayed by when things don’t go his way and starts to incite the fans, it goes both ways. It’s not right for racist chants but hes def not helping his case in most instances
There's nothing anyone does that should justify racism. No matter what the person does, judge him on what he does and not his color. This is absolutely racist from you.
You’re flat out wrong here. Stating a player provoked a reaction does not justify the reaction. It’s an important part of the conversation if you wish to understand the context in order to prevent issues in the future.
@@D_MONEY_ Only Vini got these kinds of abuse because he is the only one who raises his voice against racism. What do you expect me to behave? Just ignore, keep calm, do nothing when the people are relentlessly chanting about it. When I raise my voice, I suddenly labeled as a provocator! What kind of society is it? Disgusting!!!
This is disgraceful, I am very huge fan Vinicius Jr, but this is disgraceful to La Liga how he threaten to Vinicius Jr. This is again very similar with Samuel Eto decades ago, when he was a Barcelona players
Will ESPN FC apologize for saying Vini was to blame until this week? So far every racist accusation was handwaved by ESPN, and then they’ve discussed how it was Vinis fault for provoking fans. I’m happy to see the change of tone, but it doesn’t mean much when you don’t acknowledge your own behavior.
You can hear and see these "people" outside screaming "Mono" when the players were arriving to the stadium and right there Police doing absolutely nothing because it appears its normal to be racist in Spain.
I've lost so much respect for LA Liga. Every country has problems but it seems so obvious they are not interested in taking punitive measures to prevent this. This is 2023!!
Racism has existed for over 50,000 years . Racism much like warfare and violence ans murder is biologically inmate in humans you can cry about it but its a reality we're aninals and all animals have xenophobic tendencies ans use violence. We arent differenr but to sinpky say its 2023 like what do you mean??? Has r*pe amd murder ans assault and racism and xenophobia and war decreased worldwide to zero??? Lol not close
Happened during my youth games (California) earlier in the season. Players didn't tell me until after the game. I could only assume the referees didn't hear it but I honestly wonder if he just refused to acknowledge it.
Vinicious words are correct i believe la liga and spain are racist . because, imagine of 8 out of 9 incident was vinicious racism . And nothing has been done ...
In reality he was very kind, he said that he loves Spain but there are still many Spaniards with this behavior, if it were another Brazilian, he would have already said that it was the whole of Spain
Spain is one of the few countries in Europe that has not had or does not have a ruling party of the extreme right with a racist discourse. Italy, Poland, Hungary, Finland, Austria, etc... Spain, Portugal and Germany are a strange exception to tolerance. This is data not opinions. You cant judge a entire country by some radical football fans and an useless president of La liga.
@@renjithrajendran5966 verbal agreements can easily break down, especially concerning serious issues such as racism. If I were Jude, reconsider Spain and perhaps link up back in England.
Sorry to hear that, pal. I am Spaniard and am not racist. I am 10000% against the scum , the losers , the prejudiced that have misrepresented this country. Please accept my apologies in the name of the numerous Spaniards who are extremely ashamed of some of our compatriots 'behavior.
as an American black who's traveled to Madrid and Barca with my family, I went expecting racism and things. But honestly the people were sweet and kind to me and my family, granted when I walk away I have no clue if they are saying things behind my back for example, but thats a pitiful way of thinking. So its weird I have first hand experience of meeting some very kind and nice Spainards, but when a whole stadium is chanting it, its hard not to feel a type of way.
People say the USA is racist but I’ve never heard of any chants like they did in Spain here in the USA. Not during an NFL, NBA, MLS game. Unless I’m mistaken that doesn’t happen here. If that happened once in the NBA they would cancel games or play without fans.
NBA is almost complete black ... How many African American Athletes US has? Don’t make any sense, they would stop the whole competition because the portion of Black Athlete is huge. US would fire commentators for being racist in Spain they don’t give a Single minimal reverted F.
America and Canada are the most tolerant countries in the world. The more tolerant society is the more conscious its people are of racism. Americans claim their country is racist but if the lived in other countries they would appreciate how tolerant Americans are. I lived there and now I live in Europe and I see the difference.
Look at the price of tickets for the NFL - the average price for a ticket is $457. This excludes the types of people in society who might shout something - this is before you get into the costs of travel, food etc.
This Vinicius Junior treatment will stop big time because no player deserves this it's unacceptable and ban those losers from attending games. It's no respect for a player and La Liga needs to step in and actually do a better job at protecting players from racist chants.
Dont agree with Shaka on giving more powers to Fifa and Uefa on league issues. Its on now on La Liga's own best interests to address this issue. Its damaging their brand which already is in decline.
It really is a shame that you think this racist abuse would be great. I wonder how you would feel if you were verbally abused? And that too for something you couldn't even change? And your comment receiving that many likes just proves my old theory that the ESPN FC community is very racist. That really is just sad. Shame on you racist @kyzy2235 !!
They’re like viruses & they don’t respond well to diplomacy, they only understand one language. They’ve been known for bad behavior Since their divergence, its a mistake to think both groups can share 1 planet, their brain is too radical they’re flawed
As a Liverpool fan, I don't want this race card playing drama queen anywhere near my club. He's going to bring the drama with him. What people like you don't get is that he's the one creating all the drama to be the center of attention.
A couple of roving drones, with cameras that can zoom in that can later on be used to identify those engaging in racist behaviour, should be allowed by La Liga, at least during Real Madrid games (even if Real Madrid initially has to shoulder the expenses). This is how Real Madrid FC can prove that it is protecting its own!🤔
What makes me happy is that there are soo many anti-racist people. It’s a shame it’s tolerated in many cultures still. However those of you who don’t and aren’t, you’re on the right side of history ✊ Sempre baila Vini HMYNM
It's A Total Shame From La Liga The Referee And Especially The VAR Team Which Edited The Video Showing Only Vini Jnr Reaction Not The Grabbing By The Neck By The Valencia Player Hugo What Tebias And La Liga Are Doing Against Racism Is Not Enough
Shame on the ref FIRSTLY!!! for not stopping the game and getting the players to the changing rooms so they can deal with those fans and get them out.... The fans CHANT MONKEY!!! The REF even gave a red card to Vini who was attacked by GK and was choked by Valencia players....Where is VAR?? Where is Vini's justice This is 8th time against Vini this season and La Liga attack Vini statements???? What????
Shame on la liga and Spain!!! Vinicius is one of the best players in the world !!! Racism has no place in football in the 21st century!!! It's absolutely embarrassing to la liga!!! Im an Ethiopian 🇪🇹 living in America 🇺🇸 and grew up playing and watching this wonderful game called football ⚽️ in beautiful ancient Ethiopia 🇪🇹!!! In my view, every foreign player MUST take some sort of measure together in Spain and make sure that things like this never happen again!!! Im a Manchester united fan but love Vinicius junior for his wonderful skills and talent!!! Im definitely backing him!!!
The moderator made an awful point. You can’t punish a club for a decision a dumb fan made. Unless La Liga feels they didn’t do enough after it happened
And then you blame Arabs for occupying them for 800 years, we tried to civilize them, we gave them the best architecture in Europe, and made them the most prosperous country in Europe back then, yet we failed. Soon after we left they ran the judeochristian transatlantic slavetrade
That brazilian guy really needs to work on his english. It's not even just a hard (or even brutal) accent at this point. Shouldn't be too hard for him either given his german background that his surname is indicating.
At some point Vinicius has to think about his mental health. This is not a healthy situation for anyone especially a twenty-two year old to have to deal with.
Reading some comments below I see people telling him to "grow a pair", "It's just words", "drama queen". I'm not black but I got pissed to see this happens. This guy is a professional football player. Want to criticize him for the things he does whistle the game, be my guest. The moment you strike him as a lesser being, you lost you entire right. Nevertheless the crowd got what they wanted. He lost his marbles with it, was expelled for defending himself from an aggression and the home team won the match. Is a total absurd.
I wonder what it was like for Ansu Fati growing up in Spain!! Because the disrespect he has received from the Spanish media, Xavi, Luis Enrique, and Luis De La Fuente is simply not good!! He is a special player who deserves to get minutes on the field!! Confidence needs to be instilled in Ansu Fati!! He is one of the few black players for Spain and he doesn’t get much playing time which makes me want to go “Hmmm”!!
Starting docking points and banning their fans from stadiums for an entire season. When they take those hits financially they will start to take it seriously.
As a madrid fan I don’t like some his antiques. But if you try to defend racism and that kind of abuse by using that , than remember how pepe, ramos, turan, many Atletico players were. They should be the most abused players if this is not about racism.
But we also cannot say that just because he has been racially attacked, everything he does is right. If he does wrong things, that should be criticized as well. I'm not saying that we should justify racist attacks based on Vini mistakes, but saying that he cannot do anything wrong bc he's a victim of racism won't help in my opinion.
The VAR var was fired, sad all these happened but glad this is actually at least getting some actions. Police also arrested 3. Real Madrid filing for hate crimes is actually powerful and I think more teams should take the matter to thier hand , put these pigs in jail. La liga need to put a new protocol about this, point deduction, fan vans, closing stands, they need to get agressive, otherwise they are tainted forever.
Damage is done now this is being highlighted globally… everything they do from here on in is damage control. Brand is already tainted by Tebas ’ ‘there is no racism" statement. Game over
La liga is racist league and has been since I have started watching it. I remember Eto,Daniel Alves and Vinni now. Yo that's 3 decades in a row. That's just a fact.
I don't know if they were chanting "Mono" or "Tonto". Mono means monkey and tonto means fool. I can't really tell if was one or the other. Put my headphones to listen better and still can't say which it was. Hope they isolate the sound to let clear what was really chanted. It's hard to believe thousands of people would chant "mono" to someone , it's so crazy to think one person would do it but thousands chanting is something so humiliating and over nothing. It's sad, really. I think what is growing is some sort of hostility against Brazilians and Argentinians. Blacks are a minority in Brazil and isn't just black brazilian players that get offended or fans are hostile too, whites are receiving their share too. Argentinians it's the same, even Messi is getting fans screaming offenses at him at his house. Pretty crazy. If south Americans decide to never come to play in EUrope it's the end of Premier League and La Liga.
Vini and other black stars at Real and around La Liga should put in transfer requests and leave there clubs if the authorities refuse to arrest these racist thugs and throw them in jail
With all due respect to Vini because I back him completely but can we please stop calling a whole country racist? You realize by doing that you're pigeonholing those Spanish who have actually been discriminated against as racists to? IE. Someone like Inaki Williams who is Spanish himself.
This Kirkland guy is totally inconsistent in his discour. Yesterday he claimed, after listening to several footage, he heard the stand. chantting "tonto...tonto" and not "mono...mono...". Today he has another narrative. Some reporter.
Spanish defending themselves: "but we are not racists against everyone! he provoke us!" Ooooh... ok. Being a racist sometimes here and there is really ok in your culture then? Way better!!🤦♂ Go Vini Malvadeza!
Idk, i feel like vini provokes alot of people aswell ... he doesn't deserve to be abused verbally or otherwise, but i do think that he should speak only on the field, cause he has alot to proove if he wants to be compared to messi and ronaldo
You clearly are not from Spain if you think that the attacks against Vini started only when he improved and became world-class. You have to understand that half of Spain loves Real Madrid and the other half hates it. Vinicius has been attacked by the hating half since he arrived.
Vini should move to England. The glory days of La Liga are over. The best players and managers in world football now move to England. He can move to Man City and help them dominate the CL for the next decade. Or he can move to Man United, Arsenal, or Liverpool and set up a CR7-Messi type rivalry with Haaland. Or he can move to Newcastle and help them win their first title in decades! There are plenty of amazing stories Vini can create in the EPL.
Keep dreaming, leaving Madrid is a career downgrade. The irony is most of those great managers and players are products from different clubs in different leagues outside of EPL, particular La Liga, you rarely see EPL produce great managers and players. City will never reach the peaks of Real Madrid nor Barca in it's heyday for that matter, neither will EPL reach the glory days of La liga which has dominated European football for the last two decades. When that happens, then lectures of this nature would be valid.
@@outlawfly664 Managers leave 'big' clubs in Spain to manage down the league in the PL, even choosing to fight relegation here 🤣See Unai Emery and Julen Lopetegui. That is before you get into the top of the league with Pep and Klopp. The PL is the biggest, richest and most popular league in the world. La Liga is just a racist farmers league 💀
@@AM2K2 Yeah that explains why EPL never had any Balon D Or winners in recent memory or managers with accolades? As i recall Emery left Sevilla after he already dominated the Europa league competition with them with nothing left to conquer except La liga and wanted a new challenge. Lopetegui literally failed at Madrid, hence why he left for the one horse farmers league called EPL. As i recall Real Madrid and Barca has dominated the money league for the last two decades as well as Balon D Or winners and trophies, and Madrid is still the most valuable club brand in the world, never mind the fact that El Clasico is still the most watched football game after CL and WC final. Thanks to artificial investments from Sheiks and oligarchs EPL even became a factor financially, who are you kidding? Guess what? Marvels endgame movie also beat all the box office records, doesn't mean it's a better movie than the Shawshank redemption which actually was a box office failure, go figure genius 😂😂🤣🤣🤦♂
@@outlawfly664 The only 'star' in La Liga is Vini and he is leaving because your league is racist. No wonder they wanted to start the super league in Spain...running scared of the PL 🤣
More than half of the Spaniards despairingly call people from South America “Sudacas”, a racist slur. I’m not surprised that this society could care less of a player like Vinicius Jr.
And after being subjected to all that disdain, the referee still gave him a red card. So, they all ignored the gravity of the situation and is part of the sickness. I truly hope this incident doesn't negatively impact Vinicius performance going forward. It should do the opposite, perpel him to be defiant and excel. Spain's racist narrative lives on.
Vinicius Jr is right. I've been watching La Liga for 2 decades now and for many years monkey chants & throwing bananas onto the pitch in Spain has almost been normalized and shoved under a rug whenever people question it. Ask Ashley Cole & Shaun Wright Phillips what they experienced when they played for England against Spain some 19 years ago in Spain. Ask Eto'o or Dani Alves what they experienced whilst playing for Barcelona at away stadiums. The audacity of some of the top officials in Spanish football denying that it exists is mind boggling! What I like about England is that they take action against such behaviour. Can't say the same about Spain unfortunately.
ESPN should also take a look to some of the analysts on ESPN Deportes. Some of them always blame Vinicius saying that he provoked this behavior
Luis Garcia was on the broadcast saying Vini provoked them too. I know he hate Madrid but to be covering for racists is not acceptable.
@@aaronjo23 that's what they do, they try to justify the racist behavior. Luis Garcia is a piece of trash
@Aaron Esco then he's definitely a part of the problem. These guys are really disgusting
Vinicius was triggered by idiots.
@@aaronjo23 justifying racial abuse because Vinicius is an a**hole is not right. Just because someone is an a**hole doesnt justify using racial slurs.
As per LaLiga president: this season, eight out of nine racist insults were against Vini. The implication here: why this guy is always the trouble-maker. My only question: what actions have been taken after the eight insults against Vini? Shame on you, Mr. Javier Tebas!
Vinicius Jr should leave LaLiga. LaLiga protects racists.
Blablabla.... Produce a case based on a collective of testimonies about racism in LaLiga instead of just one based on one of the dumbest egos in the league. Vini is undoubtedly getting taunted by crowds and players because his whining victimplaying ego is such an easy target. If you think it's mainly about him being black, you never watched Vini play. His ego is an easy target that triggers many willing to trash talk not just racists...
What actions have Tebas taken after the 8 insults against Vini? He denounced them and made a formal request to have the authority to punish that himself. But if he's not given that authority, what can he do?
@@martinmcmartinezface4243 exactly people are just going with their emotions without thinking rationally
Tebas is racist himself
The country isn't going to change. Better play in leagues where the crowd is bit more civilized.
Every country changes. "Civilized countries" have racists too and they werent always civilized either. Life is not possible without change.
@@billcarson818 I am sure they'll change in time. But it will take time. In the meantime, foreign players should choose other leagues where they know, they won't have to face racism from the majority. Of course there are racists in civilized societies as well, but numbers matter.
@@Being__Ricky Considering the housing crisis and the high inflation it will probably be the case that racism will be more common in the future instead of the opposite.
@@Being__Ricky Which league is that? Which of all the popular leagues do not have racists chants from time to time?
@@vames1986 key phrases "time to time". Racism is all the time in LA Liga & Serie A.
That the match referee didn't even mention the racist abuse in his match report tells you how unserious La Liga is taking this whole situation.
A few fans doesn't represent the whole game. Vini Jr should just suck it up.
@@DaddyFutbol 9 away games... A player received racist chants in 9 away games.... 7 different stadiuns all over Spain... If you put yourfelf in his body you probably would think...Well All Spain is probably racist...
@@DaddyFutbolwas more than a few buddy. And it was at different venues vini has played
@LegendaryKing suck it up and just accept it
Sounds like someone who hasn't experienced such a predicament where a whole stadium is mocking you for your complexion
Whether it's a few or more, it's terrible to have someone experience such acts against them regardless of their profession
It's absolutely moronic to hear a fool echo such sentiments
If you have nothing good to say then shut up
@@DaddyFutbolsuht op dönki
Shame on La Liga. Absolutely disgusting. This is so beyond belief.
@@yeahhh2197 Spaniards *
It's normal, even worse here in the states. Unless your black, you wouldn't understand
@@knightofwind2929 come to brazil brother, here we are all brothers
@@wojciech3927 hahaha! Brazil is so racist
Why shame? Western Europe always uses black players when the white ones cant play good. France won every world cup thanks to them, but when they miss a goal they are abused. Lukkaku said the same for Belgium. Sorry but western europe is build on racism, this cant happen in eastern europe, cus eastern europe never had colonies and racial laws. I remember Croatia was attacked by france media cus "we did not had black players" sorry we dont have them cus we did not had colonies, and the only one we have we dont call him black, we call him dudu from Brasil whom everyone loved and noone abused.
Pele also suffered racism. The fact that Vini has suffered this his whole life including Brazil speaks to his prejudice and determination. He will go down as one of the goats.
Does racism happen in Brazil? It just happens that if you are exposed, you become so dirty in society that everyone starts looking at you very negatively. I'm not in favor of that, but there was a time when a Grêmio fan called a goalkeeper a monkey, her life was completely destroyed, they even set her house on fire.
@@felipejose8834 Racism happens in every single country, can happen to anyone.
@@felipejose8834 every single day here in brazil there's racism.
Brazil is a tolerant country though
Pele suffered the worst. there was no red or yellow card until his 3rd world cup he won
I remember a few years ago they threw a banana at Dani Alves, when he still played for Barcelona. It’s disgraceful. This is not new.
And he responded in the best way possible. He ate the banana and gave it thumbs up for being tasty.
I remember watching that match live, I was absolutely shocked!!!
And that match where the banana was thrown was played in Russia. Not Spain.
@@CrociatoAzzurro No , it wasn’t. It was played in Spain in Villareals stadium. What are you talking about?
@@Totmorgen0
OK, then there was another incident. Just researched one in Russia with Roberto Carlos. My mistake.
The sad thing is that la liga has officially summited 9 reports of racism/hate crime to the police. 8 of those reports have been about Vini Jr. La liga had an opportunity to make an exemplary punishment for the atlético Madrid fans with video and audio abusing Vini Jr and they didn’t.
Spain is a racist country. I don't expect much from a country that just left a Fascist dictatorship not that long ago. Remember, those grandfathers and mothers are still alive and passed on that racist bs to their children whose grandchildren are the ones doing the racism in the stadiums. Just ban them from Champions league, World cup, and Euro 2024 for both the men and women. Boycott la liga.
Tebas🤦🏻♂️ talk about throwing fuel on the fire!
He once again tried to imply that this was a Vinicius problem and not a racism problem. What a clown he is
Javier Tebas is like Spanish media - disingenuous
He is a disgrace
Victim blaming racists all
Honestly, the more I let it sink in, this entire season and what this young man had to deal with. The lengths he fought for his club and took them to every championship possible in 18 months. The more I realize just how disgusting this entire situation has reached. I'll keep supporting Real but in the only league they even care about, the UCL, but outside of that, I'm not even going to bother watch La Liga. No more subscriptions to streaming companies and no more summer tour tickets.
This is going to also affect summer transfers. Why would Jude want to come play in Spain when this is happening to who many say is the best player today? You'll see how La Liga will respond when the money is affected. Whether those responses be genuine or self serving is another topic. But why would a 19 year old bi-racial young man want to LIVE in a country that has normalized these racist acts. They seem to see it as, simply locker room talk. Like, its ok because it's just passionate fans.
What a joke country and league that’s complicit
ESPN commentators part of problem w/ victim blaming: “We must stand against the racial abuse of Vinicius. But he is not saint. He is provoking fans and that is not right." “Vinicius getting racial abuse is bad, but he needs to take a look at his own actions."
NO - blaming the victim is not acceptable, do better!
His own actions like what being black.
Most players of color in the league don’t get this form of racism tho? I mean there’s a reason vini gets most of the abuse compared to every other player of color in La Liga, it’s cuz he’s a great player but is easily swayed by when things don’t go his way and starts to incite the fans, it goes both ways. It’s not right for racist chants but hes def not helping his case in most instances
There's nothing anyone does that should justify racism. No matter what the person does, judge him on what he does and not his color. This is absolutely racist from you.
You’re flat out wrong here. Stating a player provoked a reaction does not justify the reaction. It’s an important part of the conversation if you wish to understand the context in order to prevent issues in the future.
@@D_MONEY_ Only Vini got these kinds of abuse because he is the only one who raises his voice against racism. What do you expect me to behave? Just ignore, keep calm, do nothing when the people are relentlessly chanting about it. When I raise my voice, I suddenly labeled as a provocator! What kind of society is it? Disgusting!!!
This is disgraceful, I am very huge fan Vinicius Jr, but this is disgraceful to La Liga how he threaten to Vinicius Jr. This is again very similar with Samuel Eto decades ago, when he was a Barcelona players
Will ESPN FC apologize for saying Vini was to blame until this week? So far every racist accusation was handwaved by ESPN, and then they’ve discussed how it was Vinis fault for provoking fans.
I’m happy to see the change of tone, but it doesn’t mean much when you don’t acknowledge your own behavior.
You can hear and see these "people" outside screaming "Mono" when the players were arriving to the stadium and right there Police doing absolutely nothing because it appears its normal to be racist in Spain.
I mean Spain is pretty racist as are Italian fans they do the same thing
I've lost so much respect for LA Liga. Every country has problems but it seems so obvious they are not interested in taking punitive measures to prevent this. This is 2023!!
Racism has existed for over 50,000 years . Racism much like warfare and violence ans murder is biologically inmate in humans you can cry about it but its a reality we're aninals and all animals have xenophobic tendencies ans use violence. We arent differenr but to sinpky say its 2023 like what do you mean??? Has r*pe amd murder ans assault and racism and xenophobia and war decreased worldwide to zero??? Lol not close
Just being real just because you cry about an issue doesnt mean itll go away . I hate death but crying wont make it go away
Happened during my youth games (California) earlier in the season. Players didn't tell me until after the game. I could only assume the referees didn't hear it but I honestly wonder if he just refused to acknowledge it.
In a youth game?? That’s so disgusting. Sorry that happened to you
@@historianofmanythings4294 happened to me as a player too growing up as was kind of expected but this was as a coach this year for my boys 2008 team.
Vinicious words are correct i believe la liga and spain are racist .
because, imagine of 8 out of 9 incident was vinicious racism . And nothing has been done ...
In reality he was very kind, he said that he loves Spain but there are still many Spaniards with this behavior, if it were another Brazilian, he would have already said that it was the whole of Spain
Spain is one of the few countries in Europe that has not had or does not have a ruling party of the extreme right with a racist discourse. Italy, Poland, Hungary, Finland, Austria, etc... Spain, Portugal and Germany are a strange exception to tolerance. This is data not opinions. You cant judge a entire country by some radical football fans and an useless president of La liga.
At least ESPN says some true ‘ most of the Spanish Media blames Vinicius!
Just another reason why the premier league is the best league in the world. They actually take action against racism
Really? Since when? Tell that to Raheem Sterling
@@emojiman5741 you literally get banned from stadiums if you are racist. What has la liga done?
Premier League is more competitive
Competitive when one team winning 5 tittles in 6 Seasons? Come on
@@musamanneh8939 there is no racism in PL
if you make racist chants,you get banned
La Liga does not deserve Vini nor Jude. I hope Jude doesn’t go to Spain.
He already agreed to join, only BVB and real madrid need to agree on fee
@@renjithrajendran5966 verbal agreements can easily break down, especially concerning serious issues such as racism. If I were Jude, reconsider Spain and perhaps link up back in England.
@@8ymat in euro when saka and rashford missed penalty in shootout english fans racially abused them.. So is it not a concern????
@@8ymat EPL fans are more racists and toxic
In South Africa and Africa, we think La Liga is racist. In fact, we think this image reflects Spanish people.
Absolutely.. its affected my view of Spanish people definitely
Maybe you should actually travel more
Sorry to hear that, pal.
I am Spaniard and am not racist. I am 10000% against the scum , the losers , the prejudiced that have misrepresented this country.
Please accept my apologies in the name of the numerous Spaniards who are extremely ashamed of some of our compatriots 'behavior.
as an American black who's traveled to Madrid and Barca with my family, I went expecting racism and things. But honestly the people were sweet and kind to me and my family, granted when I walk away I have no clue if they are saying things behind my back for example, but thats a pitiful way of thinking. So its weird I have first hand experience of meeting some very kind and nice Spainards, but when a whole stadium is chanting it, its hard not to feel a type of way.
Vini should leave to Bayern or Man City.
He isn't going anywhere, just signed a 4 year contract,he isn't leaving
@@madridman5863he will leave for sure
All black players should leave Spain and stop going over there.
@@madridman5863 He should've thought about the racism before he signed the contract with Madrid.
@@peacefulliberal5641 Fabrizio and many sources has already confirmed he isn't leaving
People say the USA is racist but I’ve never heard of any chants like they did in Spain here in the USA. Not during an NFL, NBA, MLS game. Unless I’m mistaken that doesn’t happen here. If that happened once in the NBA they would cancel games or play without fans.
NBA is almost complete black ...
How many African American Athletes US has?
Don’t make any sense, they would stop the whole competition because the portion of Black Athlete is huge.
US would fire commentators for being racist in Spain they don’t give a Single minimal reverted F.
You know US is racist.
Your racism is not in sports. Instead, it's deeply embedded in all aspects of your society.
America and Canada are the most tolerant countries in the world. The more tolerant society is the more conscious its people are of racism. Americans claim their country is racist but if the lived in other countries they would appreciate how tolerant Americans are. I lived there and now I live in Europe and I see the difference.
Look at the price of tickets for the NFL - the average price for a ticket is $457. This excludes the types of people in society who might shout something - this is before you get into the costs of travel, food etc.
Well said Craig 👏
This Vinicius Junior treatment will stop big time because no player deserves this it's unacceptable and ban those losers from attending games. It's no respect for a player and La Liga needs to step in and actually do a better job at protecting players from racist chants.
ESPN can terminate the la liga telecast contract as part of protest against racism..
Tebas is the most shameless man oat 😭😭😭
I live in Spain and whilst watching real v city recently my 10 year old daughter told me kids in her class call Vini Jr a monkey
Dont agree with Shaka on giving more powers to Fifa and Uefa on league issues. Its on now on La Liga's own best interests to address this issue. Its damaging their brand which already is in decline.
Craig hit the nail on the head with the president, man is always doing the most except with racism
Majority of real madrid’s players have always been Brazilians or South Americans. If it continues, Real might not be able to attract young talents
Money talks. Prestige of Real Madrid is enticing.
Sponcers also should take an action maybe pull out...
Players should walk off
hope to to see him in pl. if he's gone who's left in la liga to watch?
Great to see European keeping thier grandparents traditions 👏
Says the room temperature IQ while watching a program made by Europeans and presented by Europeans.
You type write that up in mud first Kwame?
It really is a shame that you think this racist abuse would be great. I wonder how you would feel if you were verbally abused? And that too for something you couldn't even change? And your comment receiving that many likes just proves my old theory that the ESPN FC community is very racist. That really is just sad. Shame on you racist @kyzy2235 !!
They’re like viruses & they don’t respond well to diplomacy, they only understand one language. They’ve been known for bad behavior Since their divergence, its a mistake to think both groups can share 1 planet, their brain is too radical they’re flawed
Then why is he playing in Europe?? Money talks
Can’t imagine what Asians and Africans go through in terms of racism in these other countries.
Real Madrid should have walked out in solidarity but unfortunately Ramos is no longer in Real Madrid.
So sad to see the big star suffering like this. He have to leave and move big club like Liverpool or somewhere else.
I am RM fan I wanna best for him.
As a Liverpool fan, I don't want this race card playing drama queen anywhere near my club. He's going to bring the drama with him. What people like you don't get is that he's the one creating all the drama to be the center of attention.
@@ranndino Vai tomar no seu cu. You're not a Liverpool fan
@@ranndino you lost your mind, you don’t have the sense of humor.
And he was the one kicked from the game ….wow .
Alex Kirkland. Brilliant submission
Thank you for covering this issue.
A couple of roving drones, with cameras that can zoom in that can later on be used to identify those engaging in racist behaviour, should be allowed by La Liga, at least during Real Madrid games (even if Real Madrid initially has to shoulder the expenses). This is how Real Madrid FC can prove that it is protecting its own!🤔
What shocked me the most" is seeing the referee send him off because he was complaining about racists. We Brazilians are with you Vinícius Júnior.
He recieved a Red Card because he made physical contact with a Valencia player.
Vini come to the premier league and feel loved by fans
The clubs should be taken to task. If you want to remain in the league and competitions, your fans must behave.
What makes me happy is that there are soo many anti-racist people.
It’s a shame it’s tolerated in many cultures still.
However those of you who don’t and aren’t, you’re on the right side of history ✊
Sempre baila Vini
HMYNM
It's A Total Shame From La Liga The Referee And Especially The VAR Team Which Edited The Video Showing Only Vini Jnr Reaction Not The Grabbing By The Neck By The Valencia Player Hugo What Tebias And La Liga Are Doing Against Racism Is Not Enough
What a disgrace of a league
It’s everywhere, Italy, England, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, USA, etc… no one can virtue signal. That’s what’s sad
Shame on the ref FIRSTLY!!! for not stopping the game and getting the players to the changing rooms so they can deal with those fans and get them out....
The fans CHANT MONKEY!!!
The REF even gave a red card to Vini who was attacked by GK and was choked by Valencia players....Where is VAR??
Where is Vini's justice
This is 8th time against Vini this season and La Liga attack Vini statements????
What????
Shame on la liga and Spain!!! Vinicius is one of the best players in the world !!! Racism has no place in football in the 21st century!!! It's absolutely embarrassing to la liga!!! Im an Ethiopian 🇪🇹 living in America 🇺🇸 and grew up playing and watching this wonderful game called football ⚽️ in beautiful ancient Ethiopia 🇪🇹!!! In my view, every foreign player MUST take some sort of measure together in Spain and make sure that things like this never happen again!!! Im a Manchester united fan but love Vinicius junior for his wonderful skills and talent!!! Im definitely backing him!!!
The moderator made an awful point. You can’t punish a club for a decision a dumb fan made. Unless La Liga feels they didn’t do enough after it happened
in 2019, Tebas applied for the vacant Chairman position at the Premier League.
Can't black players all around Europe come together and refuse to play until these issues are addressed?
That won't solve anything.😊
And then you blame Arabs for occupying them for 800 years, we tried to civilize them, we gave them the best architecture in Europe, and made them the most prosperous country in Europe back then, yet we failed. Soon after we left they ran the judeochristian transatlantic slavetrade
That brazilian guy really needs to work on his english. It's not even just a hard (or even brutal) accent at this point. Shouldn't be too hard for him either given his german background that his surname is indicating.
La Liga: it’s only been 9 racist incidents this year. Stop making a big deal 🙄
FIFA/UEFA should be leading this. Players and Referees should be allowed to do just their jobs.
At some point Vinicius has to think about his mental health. This is not a healthy situation for anyone especially a twenty-two year old to have to deal with.
He’s tough. He can be a catalyst for change
If he leaves it will be fun to see how other countries deal with his antics
Reading some comments below I see people telling him to "grow a pair", "It's just words", "drama queen". I'm not black but I got pissed to see this happens. This guy is a professional football player. Want to criticize him for the things he does whistle the game, be my guest. The moment you strike him as a lesser being, you lost you entire right. Nevertheless the crowd got what they wanted. He lost his marbles with it, was expelled for defending himself from an aggression and the home team won the match. Is a total absurd.
I wonder what it was like for Ansu Fati growing up in Spain!! Because the disrespect he has received from the Spanish media, Xavi, Luis Enrique, and Luis De La Fuente is simply not good!! He is a special player who deserves to get minutes on the field!! Confidence needs to be instilled in Ansu Fati!! He is one of the few black players for Spain and he doesn’t get much playing time which makes me want to go “Hmmm”!!
Vini should transfer to Liverpool
Starting docking points and banning their fans from stadiums for an entire season. When they take those hits financially they will start to take it seriously.
Valencia should face 10 points deduction... This should be a lesson to others
As well as every other club where vini was abused.
Because they didn’t handle it well enough?
As a madrid fan I don’t like some his antiques. But if you try to defend racism and that kind of abuse by using that , than remember how pepe, ramos, turan, many Atletico players were. They should be the most abused players if this is not about racism.
My favorite antique of Vini's is his 1939 bronze diver
Real Madrid fans racially abuse David Alaba bc he did not vote for the criminal benzema for best player award.
You're not a madrid fan
vini is the only reason i am watching la liga
ESPN shouldn’t show match’s any more. Players could also just refuse to play. Many way to make change
Whichever sports pundit on any sports channel in any country that says Vinicius is at fault really needs to be fired!!
But we also cannot say that just because he has been racially attacked, everything he does is right. If he does wrong things, that should be criticized as well. I'm not saying that we should justify racist attacks based on Vini mistakes, but saying that he cannot do anything wrong bc he's a victim of racism won't help in my opinion.
The VAR var was fired, sad all these happened but glad this is actually at least getting some actions.
Police also arrested 3.
Real Madrid filing for hate crimes is actually powerful and I think more teams should take the matter to thier hand , put these pigs in jail.
La liga need to put a new protocol about this, point deduction, fan vans, closing stands, they need to get agressive, otherwise they are tainted forever.
Damage is done now this is being highlighted globally… everything they do from here on in is damage control. Brand is already tainted by Tebas ’ ‘there is no racism" statement. Game over
When it hits their wallets, it'll hit their conscience
La liga is racist league and has been since I have started watching it. I remember Eto,Daniel Alves and Vinni now. Yo that's 3 decades in a row. That's just a fact.
I think each racist remark should count as a goal for the opposing team. That would pressure fans in to watching each other's words.
You want la Luca to take big action have espn/ Disney drop them from there stream… and if others follow suit that will end this BS…
🤮🤮🤮🤮 LaLiga protects racist fans. Stop racism in LaLiga. Enough is enough.
I don't know if they were chanting "Mono" or "Tonto". Mono means monkey and tonto means fool. I can't really tell if was one or the other. Put my headphones to listen better and still can't say which it was. Hope they isolate the sound to let clear what was really chanted. It's hard to believe thousands of people would chant "mono" to someone , it's so crazy to think one person would do it but thousands chanting is something so humiliating and over nothing. It's sad, really.
I think what is growing is some sort of hostility against Brazilians and Argentinians. Blacks are a minority in Brazil and isn't just black brazilian players that get offended or fans are hostile too, whites are receiving their share too. Argentinians it's the same, even Messi is getting fans screaming offenses at him at his house. Pretty crazy. If south Americans decide to never come to play in EUrope it's the end of Premier League and La Liga.
He's young and he's in his dream club but the racism won't end in that league. He will leave eventually
La Liga bringing shame and sadness for the game we love called football😢😢...
Maybe the broadcasters cut back on the funding of the Spanish league.
Come to the Premier League Vinny!!
All talent leave espana now theres pitch everywhere we will still pay and vinicius kisses the crest of madrid smh
Vini and other black stars at Real and around La Liga should put in transfer requests and leave there clubs if the authorities refuse to arrest these racist thugs and throw them in jail
With all due respect to Vini because I back him completely but can we please stop calling a whole country racist? You realize by doing that you're pigeonholing those Spanish who have actually been discriminated against as racists to? IE. Someone like Inaki Williams who is Spanish himself.
The truth hurts..
This Kirkland guy is totally inconsistent in his discour. Yesterday he claimed, after listening to several footage, he heard the stand. chantting "tonto...tonto" and not "mono...mono...". Today he has another narrative. Some reporter.
Why is it that there are hundreds of black players in La Liga but Vini Jr is the only one who deals with racism?
Spanish defending themselves: "but we are not racists against everyone! he provoke us!"
Ooooh... ok. Being a racist sometimes here and there is really ok in your culture then? Way better!!🤦♂
Go Vini Malvadeza!
Unless la liga and the fédération take this seriously, nothing will change. Swift actions on the pitch, préventive actions etc
They've only targeted Vinicius in the last 2years because he's improved. He gets fouled a lot so he complains and they can't stand that he complains.
Idk, i feel like vini provokes alot of people aswell ... he doesn't deserve to be abused verbally or otherwise, but i do think that he should speak only on the field, cause he has alot to proove if he wants to be compared to messi and ronaldo
You clearly are not from Spain if you think that the attacks against Vini started only when he improved and became world-class.
You have to understand that half of Spain loves Real Madrid and the other half hates it. Vinicius has been attacked by the hating half since he arrived.
Laliga are definetely not doing enough. It's not that hard to get this People out.
Funny bit is racists hate being called racists, i don't know why
27:15 so Ancelotti convinced Vini to stay on?
I hope all these stupid racists end up in prison
For being racist?
I saw videos of the Valencia fans chanting words like tondo meaning stupid not mono.
Vini should move to England. The glory days of La Liga are over. The best players and managers in world football now move to England. He can move to Man City and help them dominate the CL for the next decade. Or he can move to Man United, Arsenal, or Liverpool and set up a CR7-Messi type rivalry with Haaland. Or he can move to Newcastle and help them win their first title in decades!
There are plenty of amazing stories Vini can create in the EPL.
Keep dreaming, leaving Madrid is a career downgrade. The irony is most of those great managers and players are products from different clubs in different leagues outside of EPL, particular La Liga, you rarely see EPL produce great managers and players. City will never reach the peaks of Real Madrid nor Barca in it's heyday for that matter, neither will EPL reach the glory days of La liga which has dominated European football for the last two decades. When that happens, then lectures of this nature would be valid.
@@outlawfly664 Managers leave 'big' clubs in Spain to manage down the league in the PL, even choosing to fight relegation here 🤣See Unai Emery and Julen Lopetegui. That is before you get into the top of the league with Pep and Klopp. The PL is the biggest, richest and most popular league in the world. La Liga is just a racist farmers league 💀
@@AM2K2 Yeah that explains why EPL never had any Balon D Or winners in recent memory or managers with accolades? As i recall Emery left Sevilla after he already dominated the Europa league competition with them with nothing left to conquer except La liga and wanted a new challenge. Lopetegui literally failed at Madrid, hence why he left for the one horse farmers league called EPL. As i recall Real Madrid and Barca has dominated the money league for the last two decades as well as Balon D Or winners and trophies, and Madrid is still the most valuable club brand in the world, never mind the fact that El Clasico is still the most watched football game after CL and WC final. Thanks to artificial investments from Sheiks and oligarchs EPL even became a factor financially, who are you kidding? Guess what? Marvels endgame movie also beat all the box office records, doesn't mean it's a better movie than the Shawshank redemption which actually was a box office failure, go figure genius 😂😂🤣🤣🤦♂
@@outlawfly664 The only 'star' in La Liga is Vini and he is leaving because your league is racist. No wonder they wanted to start the super league in Spain...running scared of the PL 🤣
@@AM2K2 😂😂🤣🤣🤦♂ Thanks for the good laughs
Come to Arsenal bro. You don't have to put up with that.
More than half of the Spaniards despairingly call people from South America “Sudacas”, a racist slur. I’m not surprised that this society could care less of a player like Vinicius Jr.
8 I've seen a whole crowd sing this
And after being subjected to all that disdain, the referee still gave him a red card. So, they all ignored the gravity of the situation and is part of the sickness. I truly hope this incident doesn't negatively impact Vinicius performance going forward. It should do the opposite, perpel him to be defiant and excel. Spain's racist narrative lives on.