Fuji Fanboy has to switch to Sony, Fujifilm XT-5 to Sony A7 IV
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1:24 - i love Fujifilm
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Canon has heard your pleas and opened the mount, yet there's still a big f*** you for you. Because they only allow Sigma and Tamron to build APS-C lenses. What is your biggest 'f*** you' moment that a manufacturer has brought?
The Fuji's 6.0 autofocus tracking update for X-H2 and X-H2s is the biggest f*** you moment. It just imagines where it should focus, but focuses on completely another point.
@@iarosnaps My biggest f*** you moment is buying fujifilm. Lovely images... when they are in focus. Especially, as @iarosnaps says, with the 6.0... this is my last time, for sure, buying fuji. 6 years waiting for an autofocus that can compete with sony/canon. No way...
Hmm, it was the Canon R, I had the camera only for a week, never again a Canon R. Interestingly, howevere, TS17mmF4 is one of my favorite lenses on my Sony cameras. This is a nice example, that if you are in architecture photography, Fujifilm is not even in the arena. Another example, PZ28135F4OSS lens nothing even remotely similar in Fuji world. Actually the E-mount is what made Sony so brilliantly versatile. Another favorite lens of mine is the Canon 100-400L push-pull with a Metabones IV adapter, works brilliantly on any Sony cameras on A7III or above.
People loyal to brands need to realize the brands dont give a shit about them. Brand fanboys are the dumbest people.
"Exactly, brands are not your friends but companies seeking profit. You don't have to defend them.
The algorithm brought me to you for Fujifilm content, but your presentation style and sense of humor kept me around. Can't wait to see what content you create in this new venture.
Thank you very much for the kind words. I will only create Sony content if there is something interesting to tell. ✌️
"Sony for work, Fuji for me."
The best slogan I've heard so far. 👌
I used to own an A9 for a year after it was released and available: 20 frames per second all in focus on an air show photographing fast flying planes above the city. Brutal performance, no other manufacturers were able to come even close. And you are talking only about A7IV in your great viodeo, not even A9 territory. Fujifilm cameras are toys for hobby photographers. This was the reason I sold my A9, I am not a professional any more, I don't need an A9. Honestly, I still regret that decision. Anyhow, looking forward to having the X-T50 in my hands, I am a "full time hobby photographer", Fuji is perfect to me.
I would have no shame switching to Sony. Sony cameras are amazing and they are always at the cutting edge of technology. You have to use the best tool for your work and there is simply no room for brand loyalty. I just can't understand why there are so many brand loyal people out there, I find it crippling to be brand loyoal. I have a Fuji X-T5 and a Sony A7RV and love them both for there own strengths but I would never consider taking the Fuji to a fast pace moving job. Sony is simply leaps and bounds ahead of Fuji when it comes to the AF system, as you have just proven on your video. I am a photographer for a Montessori school, grades K-8 and I can tell you that as fast as kids move and even shooting thier sports events I couldn't imagine using anything else but Sony. Keep in mind that in your video you were doing one of the easiest streight line walking into camera AF test you can do and the Fuji simply failed. Also not sure if you know but the Sony A7IV doesn't even have Sony's new AI Auto Focus in it. I have the A7RV and the AI AF is just mind blowing. One last thing for those that are going to claim that Sony's colors are not good,... you just haven't tried a Sony in years. Their new color science is fantastic and I have compared it to even Leica color that is highly aclaimed. Brand Loyalty is a trait that just works against you!
I fully agree with you on that. I now also have an A7RV and have already done several family shootings with it. There's no chance that the X-T5 could reliably track a fast-running child even at short distances. The build quality of the A7RV is also on another level. I have to admit that Sony's colors are better than their reputation. When shooting raw, it's usually irrelevant anyway, but I've also created a Sony 'recipe' that I really like even in JPG.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel That is awesome! The A7RV is great camera and very suited for many profesional photography and video jobs. I would love to know your Sony recipe!
How about the color of the sony A7III? I love fuji jpegs but I'm thinking of Sony's AF for my toddler..
I think Fuji autofocus is getting worse. I have this exact problem a lot while trying to photograph dogs running towards me. More than half out of focus. The worst part is the viewfinder shows the green box around the subject for all of them but the images are out of focus. I was getting better results with my XT3.
I’d like to know more. Which camera are you using? I have just bought the XT5 and I will be using it in precisely the same way. Shooting pics of my very active dog. I hoped the latest firmware update would resolve the auto focus issues that I have seen Fuji users talking about. Have you updated yours and if so are you still getting the same problem?
@@marin313 It’s the XT5 I’m using and it was on the latest firmware. I was also using animal subject detection and I did adjust the Af-c custom settings slightly to see if it made a difference but it didn’t. I would get 3 or 4 images in focus and then 4 or 5 out of focus the closer the dog got to me so just a 50% keep rate. I think it might work better without using subject detection and just using zone focusing so will test that out next. I have tried this on the 16-55 and 100-400 and both had similar results. I’m renting a 50-140 next week so will see how that gets on. The performance should be a lot better than it is at the moment so hopefully future firmware updates help but I believe they have made it worse so far. Love everything else about this camera except the autofocus for anything fast moving.
@@DFitzell Best of luck. As I was in a 14 no quibble return period for my XT5 I decided to take it back. Very disappointed. I like the look and feel of the XT5 and I really wanted it to work. But after giving it a lot of thought and after a long conversation with the camera store, who told me they don’t think Fuji can significantly improve the autofocus through future firmware updates , That will only come with a new sensor on future modes. So, I felt I had no choice but to reject it for now. Such a shame. I have the Sony and I will give it another go even though it doesn’t make my heart sing. But it is reliable and its autofocus system works every time. Fuji has to get to the same point if it wants to survive.
I was full Fuji person I kept my GFX cameras but sold off all my x-mount to go Sony. Now I just picked up a X100VI as I really really despise the Sony colours and can't take pleasure using it. Hower, when the client mission is "don't f*ck this up. We need a photo from this and this person together" and they basically shake hands and part ways in 0,5 seconds, I'm not having any second thoughts. I'm going Sony.
Switch to whatever camera you want, but don't expect it to improve your photography.
That's right. You have to build your skills through work. Nevertheless, a more reliable camera is quite pleasant.
People get caught up in gear.
Really nice wide angle portrait shots ;) I have to try this. I just switched to A7IV also from xh2s and for mi Sony just works.
Thanks :D You're welcome to do it, I don't think you'll get different results.
I just made the switch also for the exact same reason. I adore the pleasing images I get from the xt5 but have shot my last 3 weddings with my Sony.
For weddings, definitely the better choice. 👍
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel found anything to get more of that organic feel with the Sony? I usually set my clarity and texture to around -15 and find that helps along with some grain. But have been thinking about trying a low strength diffusion filter.
i've had fuji's since the xt1. just changed to the A7IV for exactly the same reason. love shooting with fuji, but for weddings, the AF is just not enough. I opted to stay with my xt4 with a wide angle, as focus is not so critical and as a backup camera. 95% of my work will come out of the A7IV this year. It's just at another level.
eah, also from the need to make sure the autofocus is accurate, you end up taking more pictures. With the A7IV, this question doesn't arise anymore. But as you say, the X-T4 is still a good backup camera. 👌
4:28 an APSC camera's noise performance is always 1 stop below a FF sensor camera of the same era. This is simple physics of the nature of light and noise (see total amount of light). Anyhow, I fully understand your preferences: honestly in 2024, if a professional phtographer came to my daughter's wedding with an APS-C camera, with inferior AF, I'd pick another photog with the proper equipment. Bird photography, sports photography, these are not for Fujifilm. Fujifilm is for hobby shooters like me, I don't need the crazy performance of AF of Sony cameras, instead, I love the film simulation dial on the X-T50 immensely, the possibility to print directly onto an Instax printer., shutter speed dial. These are the "gimmicky features" I love with Fujifilm. I used to have a high quality tilt-shift (F - X) adapter and it was enormous fun to shoot with Nikon F lenses on my Fujifilm camera.
Thank you for this! If i originally had a canon r50 and never had issues with af. I switched to xt5 after a month because i wanted the film sims for faster uploads (jpegs only shooting) but noticed a lot of shots were out of focus, around 25%. I upgraded to the xh2s because i needed a flip out screen for yt talking head videos and vlogging and was told that it had the best auto focus in all fuji apsc. the hit rate improved slightly - now just down to 10% out of focus but still 10% is huge for professional use. If had only known - i should have upgrade to the sony a7iv instead of the xh2s :(
Oh man, so you've been through the same thing as me. Surprising that you've got a better hit rate with the X-H2 since it's almost the same device as the X-T5. Seems like the sensor has more influence than I thought. But if you mostly shoot videos, I can also suggest trying out the Panasonic S5II. Definitely better autofocus than the Fujis but more video-centric.
Using fujifilm xt3 + XF 35 f1.4 as hobby.
No complain… even that combination make the AF more slower. And yet still enjoying to shoot photos
If i had more money and need reliable camera. No doubt to buy better spec camera
hey there BigNegative, should I grab the Sony A7iii with 3 prime lenses 35, 50 and 85mm for $1600? I am on limited budget, and as much as the aesthetics of Fujifilm XT is appealing, I do want the best/ accessories for the money. Thanks! I want to call the shot now.
Oh hey, unfortunately, I've never had an A7III, so I can't tell you how good that camera is. It also depends a lot on your shooting style and what you want to photograph. Therefore, it's really not easy for me to give you a good answer. Sorry about that.
yeah, I have X-T3 and thinking about switching to Sony for exactly the same reason
but there's also new updates of Lumix S5IIx and I'm more on the video shooting side
and there's bunch of functions absent in Sony that I really like and need, and only appear in much more expensive models....
If you're going to make more videos anyway, you'd better go with the Lumix S5II; it's much better suited for that and has many more options for filmmakers.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I found that I like film photography more, and do some street photography as well, hence the need for better AF, but idk if AF in recent Lumix cameras are better
@@quite1enough I had the Leica Q3 (which is essentially Panasonic software), and it had a pretty good AF-C auto eye focus. I even photographed a whole wedding with it, which was quite pleasant, and I didn't have any problems like with the Fuji. However, whether it's sufficient for street photography for you, I can't say because I don't know your style. Unfortunately, you would have to test it out yourself.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel there's also a chance that I have a bad copy :( mine was three time in service already since my purchase but it was mainly physical damages (flex cable of shutter button and command rear-dial)
@@quite1enough Oh okay, that's really a lot. I once had a broken shutter button on my X-S10. Stuff like that can happen sometimes.
The Sony movie studio is literally a separate company from the Sony camera company, one is based in Los Angeles and the other is based in Japan. If you can say that they’re not focused because they’re in different businesses then you can say the exact same about canon since they make printers, scanners, and other non-photography products.
Yes, that's probably true. The difference, however, is that Canon products mainly come from the field of photography, as you just mentioned, like printers and scanners. Sony, on the other hand, was initially a technology company, and only later did cameras come into the picture. When I say Canon, most people usually think of cameras first, and when I say Sony, most people tend to think of PlayStation or TVs. Sony even has a car in development....
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel well canon makes other products that aren’t photography related, I just mentioned a few that are, but they also make calculators, and then tons of other business oriented products, including semiconductor machines and all kinds of other weird stuff - if you go to their website you can see under the “business” tab at the top, so they’re far from just a photography company. I just think these companies are fairly segmented and I don’t think the Sony movie business has any connection to the Sony television or photography business. And like you pointed out Sony didn’t just step into the photo industry themselves, they bought a company that had a lot of history and legacy in optics, and they didn’t even buy the entire company of Konica minolta, they only bought their consumer photography business, the rest of the company still exists doing other stuff to this day, like printers and office solutions, so that conpany was similarly structured in different business units. Panasonic is too, so I think if we want to talk about who is the most focused on photography, I guess it would be Nikon?
Long time XT user - finally decided to buy new Fuji gear two weeks ago. Love the look and feel of the XT5, the grip of the X-H2. Buffer on the X-T5 is shit and the X-H2 autofocus after the update got worse somehow. Did a long shoot this last week and 250/1100 shots aren’t focused… needless to say I’m returning the X-H2 and grabbing a Sony A7IV tomorrow.
Then you were lucky to notice in time that you could still return your cameras. The A7IV will not disappoint you, at least when it comes to focus.
Right tool for the right job. Fuji for travel and slow paced artsy stuff, and Sony for everything else.
Yes, that's probably the best distribution of the two brands you can make. 👌
tbh there is nothing is artsy about fuji
@@FeRoOOo71 if I use a brush to paint my room, there’s nothing artsy about the brush. If I use the same brush to paint a painting, then there is something artsy about the brush.
i would make another distribution... Fuji for dumpster and Sony for everything else. Hope 7.0 solves, at least a bit, the XH2s AF problem... if not, goodbye Fuji, Hello Sony
Not really, if your travel is for ultimate performance on image quality both resolution and low light noise performance. No APS-C cameras can catch up FF. If your travel is just for fun, yeah OK, you can even use a Nikon F2.
Are you a wedding photographer now?
What did you use the x-t5 for before that you are now switching to Sony for weddings?
I like the FUjis, but honestly, Sony just offers so much more of the function. Ergonomics is just...well, a matter of taste, but you can live with it. And Canon RF Mount...yeah, I have it, miss a lot of functions my old sony a7 iii offered.
My first wedding was actually with the Leica Q3. :D It was fun, and even that had better eye autofocus than the X-H2, which I then used for it. At every wedding, there was always a moment when the AF failed, which annoyed me so much that I got the A7IV.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Nice. And in terms of color, fast editing the Sony RAW Files? Any Problems, differences in skin tones so far?
@@tobis2265 I'd say Sony colors are better than their reputation. The RAWs are really easy to edit and have a ton of dynamic range. I believe the skin tones were adjusted with the A7SIII and look very authentic. From that perspective, I can't complain.
I just couldn't do what you've done. So Ive bought both the Sony A7RV AND the Fuji X-T5.
Of course, you can do that. 😄 Unfortunately, the budget for an XT-5 is going towards my wife, who also needs a Sony camera.
Indeed, unfortunately Fuji autofocus isn’t good enough for a lot of professional situations. I keep a Sony and Fuji system, and reserve the Fuji for subjects that are still or for manual focus.
Yeah, I think with the next generation they could reach a good level. By then, Sony will probably have surpassed Fuji again.
I really enjoyed my X-T4 and was waiting for the new model to upgrade. I was disappointed upon realizing that the X-T 5 and the X-H2 both had features that I wanted. So, I switched to Sony, in large part because of the AF. At my age, I have shaky hands and failing eyesight. The A7RV has made my life more enjoyable. Very expensive but worth every penny. I'm not about to switch to anything else any time soon. No more money left. LOL But those Fuji camera make photography so much fun with the analog dials.
Meanwhile, I've also switched to an A7RV, and my wife is using the A7IV. I must say that not having to constantly wonder if the focus was accurate or not makes the day so much easier. You can fully concentrate on the people you're photographing. It was really expensive, as you said, but it has definitely been worth every penny.
Better late than never 🤪. The AF of the Sony was the reason i switched from Canon to Sony about 6 Years ago. Canon got better these days but Sony is still the way to go (in regards to AF performance) Nice Vid 👍✌️
Hehe, thanks! Yeah, I'm quite late to the party. :D I also started with Canon, then switched to Fuji because of the size of the X-E3. So far, Sony definitely still offers the best overall package for commercial purposes.
I'm coming from Nikon and it's the same story. It's AF-C eye is so unreliable.
But I'm glad I stuck with Nikon and they at least have made significant improvements with recent releases that can MATCH 90%-95% of Sony AF
Trialled a Sony A7iv, then a Fuji X-H2. Bought the X-H2 because despite the Sony AF being light years better than the Fuji's, I just preferred the Fuji as a camera. Now have an OM-1Mk2 on my desk to see how that's stacks up with AF before making a decision on whether to ditch Fuji for OMDS, or ditch them both for Sony and accept that the camera I don't really want is actually the best for what I need (which is simply a decent camera to keep up with life, and my kids refusing to stay still for photos!).
I can suggest you try the Panasonic S5II. It has access to all Sigma lenses and a pretty good autofocus. By the way, Nikon is also not bad, especially the Zf could be interesting. 😄 Maybe you'll find the right camera for you then
For wedding photography I too would use Sony. AF speed and accuracy is just too important.
Exactly. It would be a shame if you couldn't take important pictures because the autofocus is being finicky.
And yet....I just use one point center focus. Don't need AI focus or track focus or spray and pray...Just a sense of observation and anticipation.
So jetzt endlich mal Zeit für meinen Kommentar hier. Witzig das ich die Tage auf dein Video gestoßen bin.
Die ganze Fuji Thematik macht mir wirklich wirklich traurig und auch ein stück weit wütend. Ich weiß jetzt nicht ob ich ein Fuji-Fanboy bin aber ich mag das System und habe daher auch ne Xh2 und ne XH2s und oh Boy was soll ich sagen. Ich bin (jetzt erst durch das letzte Update) wieder einmal so enttäuscht von meiner Fuji XH2s das ich sie am liebsten in einen Karton packen würde und in den Nächsten Landen zum verkauf ausstellen würde. Nicht nur das Die Kamera ja mit dem AF zu kämpfen hat und da ohnehin schon hinterher hinkt, nein, jetzt haben sie es mit dem letzten Update auch noch verschlimmbessert. Was ich damit meine? Die Kamera (Beide XH2/s) zeigen dir die grüne AF box EXAKT auf dem Auge des Tier/Person/Whatever an und du denkst ja, geiler shot und dann gehts rüber zu Lightroom und du siehst okay, Fokus völlig daneben, bei fast jedem Bild. Das ist so frustrierend. Klar sagen jetzt Einige: Ja aber das ist ja nur ein Updatefehler und das wird bestimmt bald behoben usw usw, Ja klar, aber 1. Kommt mir das bei Fuji in der Spanne die ich jetzt diese Kameras besitze ein bisschen zu häufig vor und 2. Ist Gerade die XH2s Ohnehin schon trotz ihrer Tollen Hardware (Stacked-Sensor) einfach so mittelmäßig was den AF angeht das ich es kaum glauben kann und es Gefühlt mit jedem Update trotz Ankündigung gleich schlecht und/oder schlechter wird.
Ich werde immer mehr und mehr in professionelleres "Arbeiten" hinein gezogen und umso mehr das passiert, umso mehr entdecke ich die Stellen oder Bereiche in denen mich die Kamera im stich lässt. Ich meine das Ding hockt auf nem Stacked-Sensor. AUF NEM VERDAMMTEN STACKED-SENSOR und performt so unterirdisch. Das Ding ist doch von Sony gebaut oder?, sollen sie halt Geld in die Hand nehmen und sich in dem AF-Algorythmus einkaufen damit sie den verwenden können. Ich könnte selbst damit leben aber das der Fokus aktuell durch dieses miserable Update auch noch effektiv Falsch wiedergegeben wird und du dich nicht mal mehr drauf verlassen kannst das wenn du die Box aufm Auge hast und abdrückst es auch scharf ist an der Stelle... Ich merke halt einfach das die Zuverlässigkeit zu wünschen übrig lässt. Klar war/ist mir bewusst das sie kein Canon oder Sony Level hat, aber gefühlt hinkt die Kamera 4-5 Jahre hinterher. Eine Sony Alpha 7IV Die IMMERNOCH den alten bzw. nicht den neuen AF-Algorythmus der R7V oder der Alpha 6700 nutzt macht das um längen besser. Auch nicht perfekt klar, aber besser. Sehr viel besser. Und die hat keinen Stacked-Sensor.
Ich kann deinen Schritt wirklich wirklich nachvollziehen und ich denke für meine "Profesionellen" Arbeiten werde ich mir auch auf kurz oder Lang eine Sony zulegen. Entweder auch ne A7IV oder ich warte, denn die A7V wartet auch schon an der nächsten Ecke (denke ende des Jahre kommt da die Ankündigung) und ich werde mich ins Sony-Lager begeben weil sie einfach abliefern und der E-Mount allgemein auch nicht unattraktiv ist mit seiner großen Objektivvielfalt.
Ich werde da zwar denke ich einiges Vermissen was ich jetzt bei der Fuji habe, aber die Zuverlässigkeit spielt da einfach eine zu große Rolle, besonders wenns bei Events einfach sitzen muss.
Beste grüße meinerseits an dich, Mach weiterhin so gute Videos. Ich freue mich aufs Nächste, Abo und Like sind raus ;)
Du bist schon der zweite der mir über dieses ominöse update berichtet das den AF komplett zerstört. Dann kann Fuji froh sein das ich diese update noch nicht gemacht habe sonst wären die Ergebnisse vielleicht sogar noch schlimmer. 😅
Fuji ist eine der wenigen firmen die ihre Sensoren noch selbst herstellt (bis auf GFX die sind von Sony). Also selbst wenn sie es kaufen könnten würde Sony sicherlich ihre goldene Gans herausrücken und den AF Algorithmus verkaufen. Die Fuji fühlt sich aber wirklich noch an als würde sie zwei Generation hinter Sony hinterherhinken.
Da ich mir zwischenzeitlich die A7RV gekauft habe und meine Frau die A7IV benutzt kann ich dir sagen. warte lieber auf die A7V. Es lohnt sich denn der AF ist nochmal eine ganze ecke besser geworden.
Danke dir übrigens für die Unterstüzung. ✌️
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Ja, ich denke sollte ich wirklich den Schritt zu sony machen werde ich auf die a7v warten, hab schon oft gehört das der "neue" af nochmal ne ganze ecke mehr reist. schade das ich mir darüber gedanken machen muss/will weil fuji einfach scheinbar nicht ihre hausaufgaben macht.
I switched from XT4 to A7IV. Not regretting it. Ergos better on Fuji for sure and so is the evf but I was missing adapting lenses and keeping the original focal length, plus more third party lenses at that time and autofocus leagues better. Dunno about the XT5 though. Forgot to mention battery life, no more anxiety about that 😅
Wow, you're pretty fast at writing comments :D Yeah, the autofocus annoyed me the most, and the direct comparison is in the last third of the video. Being able to adapt lenses with the original focal length is also a good bonus. :D
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Yeah, thought I could say something about the topic as I relate to it. Can't wait to see the full video.
thank you
Ich liebe die Fuji Jpeg Farben, aber der AF ist einfach nicht auf der Höhe der Zeit. Und in Fujiforen bekommt man dann zu hören, dass Fotografieren mit Fuji halt noch Sachverstand erfordert, während mit Sony und co. Jeder Amateur fotografieren könne 😂. Ich hab ne kleine günstige Fuji behalten wegen der Filmsimulationen. Wenn ich sicher sein will, dass der AF sitzt, dann nehm ich die A7IV
Jau, die vielfalt der Farboptionen ist bei Fuji echt nicht zu schlagen. Ich denke nicht das man mit Fuji mehr Sachverstand braucht wenn man alles auf Auto stellt ist jede Kamera selbst eine Filmkamera von jeden Amateur relativ einfach zu benutzen. :D Maximal eine für eine digitale Leica M bräuchte man etwas mehr wissen wegen fehlender AF funktion.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel die Antwort in Foren dreht sich in erster Linie um den AF, der genauso gut sei wie der von Sony, wenn man denn wüsste wie man ihn genau einstellen muss. Natürlich für jede Situation neun. Das Sony und Canon Kameras das auch so hinbekommen wurde dann abgetan. Das waren halt die Fujifanboys 😄😄
@@Sir_pxalot Jaja die lieben Fanboys. Theoretisch muss man wirklich für jede Situation den AF-C anders einstellen. 😅Allerdings die Fokussierung auf kurze Distanz geht leider mit keinen Preset oder Einstellung wirklich zufriedenstellend.
Die direkte Augen AF Erkennung ist aber wirklich gut und auf aktuellen Niveau nur der Rest der AF-C Systems nicht....
I love the fuji colours and have built a brand round that and it does stand out form the crowd and my editing style can kind of make the Sony files sing but I need to time with them do so. Im at point where I have done the same test as you and its always the last few pictures as you get closer to the camera and you're face detect does get more in focus.
I dont think its the fact fuji is bad its the fact that Sony is spectacular AF wise you can just let the camera do its thing. And if they can do it should everyone?
But I am on the verge of selling everything I shouldn't loose much money if any as I buy everything sound hand
I'm privileged but I have a Sony a7riv and a Fujifilm xe-3 (with a Fujifilm x100vi upgrade on the way....hopefully...it may get here before the end of the century). They're very different cameras for different purposes in my mind. The small Fujifilm for everyday carrying around and the Sony for when I want the hardcore powerhouse that can do anything and give me perfect shots. Why not keep both?
But the one thing Sony doesn't have on Fujifilm is the menu. It's so confusing on Sony.
Of course, you can keep both, but something like the X100VI isn't really meant for wedding photography. :D So, it makes sense to have a Sony for work and an X100 for fun. And yes, the menus are absolutely strange and ugly on Sony.
I thought and still think the same as you: SONY is not known as a traditional camera manufacturer. But I shoot with Panasonic Lumix (currently S5 II), so it's also not a traditional camera manufacturer. What I don't like about SONY cameras is the haptics and ergonomics. Yes, they are class leading in speed and AF-performance but I do not need the best AF-system for my style of photography. Panasonic is catching up and I like their strategy producing compact and leightweight lenses - and L-Mount is great. I also thought about Canon and fully agree with you: as long as the RF-Mount can only be used with original Canon-lenses or adapted ones, I would never switch to Canon.
You've had already trouble with Leica, I hope, you'll be glad with SONY. Have fun!
Oh, the Panasonic S5II is a fantastic camera. If I were only shooting videos, that would be my absolute first choice. The autofocus is the same as in the Q3, and I had no problems with it either. Thanks to the L-Mount Alliance, you can also use Sigma lenses, which is a big advantage. The box tracking isn't nearly as good as on Sony, but that would be my only complaint.
By the way, I already broke my Sony. :D
It froze, and now the touchscreen isn't working properly. lol
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Oh dear, you seem to have a lot of trouble with your cameras. I hope you get this fixed and will be fine for a long time.
I feel same ashamed as you for looking to Sony (due to its AF-performance) 🙃. Was looking too much and finally ordered. It depends on its ergonomics and operational handling if I really take this step changing camera system. AF-performance is not everything but the S5II is still lacking behind my expectations. Sometimes there isn't any challenging situation and the AF fails (e.g. people wearing glasses, hair in front of the eyes, playing children, whatever). I will check the A7RV+24-105 F4 and then decide.....
Have done some comparisons. It's a pity but it's true. The AF-performance and -accuracy of the A7R5 is near perfect....in opposite to the S5II...there you need best conditions and sometimes luck.
Is frustrating that with autofocus so advanced now that Fuji cannot match Sony. So many people love the analogue style of camera but can be put off by these shortcomings
Yeah, I would have loved to keep the X-T5, but unfortunately, the way I work doesn't allow it. The AF-S is really great though. Sony could release a retro camera, I think they would find a lot of buyers there.
Nonsense.
@@r423sdex As you wish. I mean, I provided clear video evidence in the end that the camera couldn't handle it. Tested five times, failed to reproduce five times. Considering the sales of Fujis X100V and VI, and looking at Ricoh's delivery difficulties, the market is currently seeking exactly that.
Did the Xt5 have the latest 3.01 software?
The 3.01 firmware unfortunately came out after I made the video. However, I've already received two comments saying that the tracking has actually gotten worse rather than better. But I can't confirm that myself without the camera.
I am a "Fuji fanboy" I guess but, I'm a realist more I think . So, you need what works best for you. Especially when money is involed . The people that say it's you and not the gear, just like to tinker. Out of the box the Sony just works with a lot less tinkering . I love my X-H2s and my X-S20 but, I can't say they havent let me down a few times. I also have an A7 IV because I shot a sweet 16 next to my brother , he was using the A7 IV and i was using the X-T4 and X-H2s . I had so many shots out of focus I felt horrible delivering the photos. So, I bought an A7 IV for my paid gigs. I love using my fuji gear for my TH-cam channel and family stuff.
Sometimes you realize how good or bad a device is when you see it in direct comparison. I had the X-S10 from the start for my channel and always thought it had top autofocus until I really had to work with it. But now you have an A7IV, so you don't have to fear any gig anymore. :D
You wrong about putting Nikon 3/4 place when it comes to auto focus. U need to try the Z8/9 😂
I have Sony and Fuji and completely agree with your video. The Sony just does what you expect but it’s not fun. Fuji does what it wants but it’s fun af.
I agree with you. Nothing beats the fun of a Fuji camera, but unfortunately, that's not always everything.
On which firmware version of X-T5 did you test?
version 2.10 but other people mentioned it got worse with the new firmware....
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel not with X-T5. Maybe X-H and 2s.
I feel your pain when it comes to fuji's unreliable AF. i switched to fuji in 2018 because nikon was late in the mirrorless game. Just a week ago i sold all of my fuji gear and got the Z9. Why? For all the AF issues you have mentioned in your video. I shoot my very active 2.5yo son almost everyday and i really need good AF-C accuracy. When i work at the studio, one of fuji's sharpest lens, The One 50mm f1.0, can't even keep up when the models/clients change poses quickly. So yeah, i loved fuji's ergonomics and color science but they really need to improve AF accuracy and make only LM lenses. Why not Sony one may ask. I never liked Sony because of the interface though their AF system is the best in the world. Same reason goes to Canon. It's a personal preference.
Nikon would have been my choice too, right after Sony. The Z9 is a killer camera that I would also like to try out. But I can absolutely understand why someone wouldn't buy Sony because of the menu. It's absolutely ugly, although the layout itself is actually okay
i use my fuji camera not profesionally but for trip and family, all my shots where kids/family run toward me are out of focus
For objects that don’t move, Fujis are really perfect. It's just a shame that family photos also turn out blurry.
I have Canon, Nikon, Sony and Fujifilm cameras and my favourite is Fujifilm
Was geht ab digger?! Hast du gut geschlafen? Gutes und schönes Video Boss! Du sprichst nur Fakten. Fick die Gate keepers. Schlaf gut ne?
dank dir, hatte heute mal schön ausgeschlafen. 👌gate keeping ist wirklich unnötig. Da dir schlaf anscheinend recht wichtig ist wünsch ich dir auch einen guten schlaf. 👍
Welcome to Sony my friend. I don't think you will regret it :)
Oh, I think that was a good decision even though I managed to freeze the camera once. :D
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I also have the A7 IV and it's a great all-round camera. Enjoy
I cannot agree with this. I have no problem with Fuji AFC and i shoot figure skating shows with fast moving multiple subjects and ever changing colored lights. Have you actually tried using custom settings and not the default that you ehowed in your video! Having said this, I have no experience of Sony but for me Fuji works.
As I said, the problem only arises with very close individuals... so I don't think you're directly photographing figure skating people in close proximity. It usually works quite well from a distance. By the way, I've already tried all the AF-C presets and even a custom setting that should track people approaching slowly but even that doesn't work.
You love your Fuji's AF since you have no clue what is a high performance AF. I used to own an A9, that was brutal: 20 frames per second all in focus of airplains in a air-show.
Did you do this test with latest firmware update on the X-T5? After the update I've seen a huge improvement in AFC and Eye tracking with my X-T5 (but far from perfect yet...)
Yeah, it was the latest firmware available at that time.
I’ve shot weddings with the XT5 and it focuses fine if you use the continuous focus and have the shutter 1/2 pressed. I’m sticking with Fuji all the way.
If you don't have a problem with it, then everything's okay. 👌 My problem is also very specific.
Defintely, you can photograph an entire wedding even with a Nikon F2, sure as was the case in the 90's.
Fuji's AF isn't bad ... until you have experienced the real thing - Sony. I still enjoy my X-H2 when traveling. But its days may be numbered.
Hehe, absolutely. :D If you take an H2 for traveling, you can just as well take an A7IV or something similar since it's even smaller.
This is becoming like watch war should I buy a Rolex or an a. AP , Vacheron or Piaget is all Marketing .
I''m not as familiar with watches as I am with cameras, unfortunately. So, it seems like the marketing worked on me. 😅
Honesty...this is just my Biased Opinion...but if Fujifilm X Mount if they every Betray US....which they might since APS-C Size Sensor is becoming somewhat irrevelant since the camera body size of the XH2/XH2s is becoming gigantic similar to Sonys Full Frame Counterpart
I can predict 100% of Fujifilm Users will go to Sony Mount... that open mount especially Tamrons lenses are soo spectacular no offense for someone observing from the outside stadium.
Im not a Fashion Photographer/ Product Photographer so AFC/ Autofocus means nothing
However However If I start to do fashion Shoots more often high chance I will ditch Fujifilm. the Autofocus although it got better...its like 1990s vs 2010
Actually, the X-H2 is even a larger body than the A7 IV. That really surprised me when I bought the Sony. Fuji's strengths definitely lie in cameras like the X-100VI and X-E4 because of their small size. The X-T5 is right on the border. However, I find all the new 1.4 lenses to be way too big for the bodies. This makes the whole system lose its compactness. I recommend testing your new system thoroughly before switching. I trusted various TH-cam reviewers and was disappointed.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Exactly this is the reason X-T50 might be an important camera, it goes back to minimalist grip size back tilting screen to maintain a really small profile camera. Panasonic S9 seems to be an amazing camera but the no EVF, left swingout screen makes it not small any more since a left protrudind screen makes it twice as big in size.
Switched from Sony to Fuji, and then back to Sony. Sometimes you just need to take the journey 🙂
Sometimes it takes a while to reach the goal. It would have been cool if it had been a bit cheaper though. 😅
''But the colors!'' 😂
Yeah, i had to make some sacrifices. :D
This is painful to read. I already have the Sony A7iv but I decided to buy into Fuji as well because the Sony has never inspired me, it’s a computer, a good computer, but it’s just not easy to love. Plus, it’s heavier than the xt5 as are the accompanying lenses. Consequently, I haven’t used the Sony as much as I intended to. It just doesn’t excite me. Reading others comments here it would seem I have made a mistake. What you are all saying is the Fuji looks and feels great, but it just can’t compete with the Sony.
That's true, Sony cameras are really just functional tools, and you can definitely tell that they haven't paid much attention to photography enthusiasts. If you don't need to photograph fast-moving objects or people, Fuji is definitely better.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I'm heavily into Fuji and recently was depressing myself thinking I should take the hit and go over to Sony, but I don't actually "need" af-c ... so thanks for this comment which I'm taking as reassurance I'm with the right camera for me. I shoot dozens of recreational flower and bird photos and videos per day almost always in manual focus.
The Fuji XT5 is a truly great camera. The compact size, the flexible display, and the controls have brought me a lot of joy. Unfortunately, in the commercial realm, I kept running into technical limitations. Since I prefer working with natural light, I had to deal with high ISO values and corresponding image noise. Of course, one could compensate for this with a flash. However, my biggest issue was also with the focus. Especially at weddings, one needs to quickly react to situations and capture moments that are quite dynamic. Here, the XT5 unfortunately let me down quite often. About 50% of the images were blurry. I don't want to select images that are technically okay, but rather the ones where everything fits for me - framing, composition, situation. Therefore, switching to Sony was also the right decision for me. 🦝
Yes, unfortunately, reliability is the most important thing in the commercial sector, even if you'd like to shoot with a special camera that sometimes has issues. But I also have to say that the X-T5 was really great.
How do professional photographers like Kevin Mullins manage to produce absolutely fabulous pictures even with the likes of xpro 1 and you can’t with an XT5?
@@Mw02veg Oh, I can do it with an X-T5, I could easily shoot a whole wedding with an M6 as well. However, just as an X-Pro 1 limits you in certain things it doesn't master, the X-T5 restricts you in certain aspects. While Canon, Nikon, and even Panasonic have figured out how to do it. Even the Leica Q3 has managed to have a more reliable AF-C at short distances. I could have lived with the limitation, but I want to choose my images based on the expression of the couples, not on 'did the AF-C hit or not.
Fuji are taking the piss with their terrible AF knowing that their fanboys will defend them no matter what. I ditched Fuji for Nikon (Z9) over a year ago and it's great to now have a system with AF that works as advertised.
The Nikon autofocus should also be significantly better, especially on the excellent Z9. I also don't understand why people energetically defend certain brands. Companies aren't interested in these fanboys.
You should have used same minimum foucs distance lenses+aparture and same focal length for full frame and apsc to make the experiment even more perfect. Whatever, Everyone knows, Sony got better autofocus algorithm and their processor is powerful than fuji. Even fuji fanbois will claim it also, They just move forward with it as long as it can autofocus.
Unfortunately, I only had the one lens for Sony. However, I calculated the crop factor accordingly so that the Fuji definitely didn't have a harder time. Unfortunately, I was also misled by all the TH-cam reviews that say Fuji has gotten much better... not even close to the range of Sony or Canon
Tools in the tool box... Whatever works sir.
Exactly, some tools just work better than others. 👌
I switched from Sony A7III to the Fuji XT4 and back to the Sony A7IV. Never going back. Sony best reliable hybrid camera 🙏
I think so too. Definitely one of the best cameras for working.
Dude I have a shiba inu too!
nice. 👌 best dogs out there.
German accent and unique sense of humour 😂
Haha, thank you for that! Appreciate you watching!
The only reason why I not switch to sony is because I can not afford it.
That's a good reason. Nevertheless, it's quite good to know that with Sony and comparable lenses like the new 1.4, you definitely come out cheaper with Sony.
So you switched to……. SONY 😮😮😮
Yes, sometimes you have to do things that are necessary. 😅
I loved my Fuji… then I got a Sony, I was unhappy at first but learned the system and now I look back at Fuji and shake my head. The only thing Sony don’t do well are JPEGs.. but who cares I don’t want my photos to look like everyone else’s? Don’t be 🐑
2:21 ahhahahahaha sony is not as « focus » as Fuji …. Depends of the type of focus 😂
Fujifilm : (tries) to fix problems and adds features via Kaizen / firmware updates
Sony : (tries) to fix problems by releasing new camera bodies instead
Fuji autofocus does suck though and with the 56mm APD fails considerably
Yeah. Good question what's better now. To release a mature camera and buy exactly what was advertised or to release a half-finished one and then wonder if you'll get updates for specific problems.
Yes, the old 56mm is extremely slow. The new one is much better already but still feels overwhelmed moving the big lenses.
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There are no bad cameras now days ,only bad photographers. This video seems to be about that phenomena
There are no bad comments only people that don't watch the whole video to the end. ✌️
Just go already.
I can already see that I should make a short out of the video. 😄 Essentially, you can just watch the sections that interest you. 👌