Fujifilm Fanboys
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00:00 Intro
00:48 XH2S FW 1.03
01:16 Fanboys
01:36 Range rover
02:18 Jail
03:07 Dpreview Jack Norris
05:35 Dpreview MOD Bob Fever
07:03 Random comments
08:04 Spiderman
10:22 Be on our team
6:19 forgot to mention about the "MOD", he also says "why I am in custom settings 1" 🤣 (1-2-3 Dial on fuji , That's a custom profile with your settings and stuff)
I don't know about Fuji since I left it a few years ago on Sony, but with Sony a dynamic range boost gives you darker raws for some reason (darker than what you see in the live view and darker than the jpgs), and less light does affect af performance (on Sony I struggled with eye af for quite a few time until I found out about this)
Nice video btw, I'm happy to see an objective review for a change (but I'm also loving the drama around this 😂 )
"Why do you think we buy F1.4? to shoot at F8?" Hahahah
As someone who spent around 15k in Fujifilm gear, their silence is pissing me off
Same here... PATHETIC
same dude...🥲
Their silence or their efforts to discredit any critics?
I own 2 X-T5s and many of their most expensive lenses and I was debating if I should get myself the XF200 F2. And now, I'm about to sell it all. :^)
Man the first point hit home for me. "I hate Fuji because it makes me use Sony if I want good AF" and that is exactly what I end up doing too. Keep up the good work my man.
By the same token, " I hate Canon because it makes me want to pick up Sony again if I want good third party lenses support for my full frame camera." 🤣
same here 😆
Same. I left Fuji, even though I absolutely love their style, because eye af on x-t20 was a joke and because the use experience was so much slower than Sony. Also I hate the d-pad and Sony gives me 4 customizable dials. But I do miss Astia and the overall aesthetic so much
I really like fuji as a package (i know , hard to believe) , but I really need good af sometimes, and that's why I have a sony, and I hate this
It's not hard to believe, because I will always say the same thing. The Fuji package is amazing, and their lenses are fantastic. But they need the reliable focus to take it to the next level. I cannot rely on their focus for run&gun situations in a wedding, and low light dance photos are a struggle. I don't experience this using Sony, which is a shame since I really love Fuji's system.
I went to my local park this morning. Found a tame Canada Goose who let me get 9 feet away. X-T5, 70-300mm at 70, f8, 1/600, iso 640, AF-C, spot focus, CL, subject set to bird. Put the goose's eye in the box, box went green, and i took the shot. Reviewed the shot, zoomed in and the eye was soft but the neck was sharp. I looked at the camera and said "well that explains why i've had so many bad shots, user error."
its not your fault. The duck was supposed to move to where the focus was. It didn't understand how fuji autofocus works.
that's the goose's error. It should've known how DoF work smh
I took a photo of my four-year-old daughter the other day with my X-H2 and XF16-55 f2.8. Face/eye detect confirmed her left eye was the target and was in focus. She wasn't moving, neither was I. Missed the shot. Still, I got a nice shot of our garden fence behind her left shoulder. Why didn't she know she should have stood closer to the fence?
I generally don’t have too much issues with either my X-T4 or X100V given the way I ahoot with single point autofocus and still or slow moving subjects. However, I have never had so much focusing trouble as with the 70-300. I bought it for a particular trip and struggled with it the whole time. Almost never use it. It’s supposed to be relatively good due to being LM but I hate it.
Try zooming with the 70-300mm while shooting bursts of an object moving ... the AF of my 70-300mm collapsed immediately (shooting speedway - the 50-140mm isn't impressed).
The AF capabilities of the 16-55mm are great. But that doesn't help, if the camera is the problem.
If the lens has a problem or bug too, that's when it's going to be very funny.
XH2s user here.
You are absolutely right about everything. I ALSO HATE THAT I LOVE FUJI SO MUCH but for good AF will I need a Sony soon. The bride scenario you describe is the perfect example.
I'm from Germany and in the German forums at Fuji you will also be harshly criticized if you raise these problems. I tried to shoot a sitting duck in the grass with the xh2s and the 50-140, which is known for its speed in AF.
No chance, not a sharp picture because the autofocus tricks me. And the best thing is that you talk about these things and no one takes them seriously because everyone says you don't adjust the camera correctly :D. Imagine that in order to photograph a sitting duck in the grass, with Fuji you first have to get a university degree in autofocus, while with other brands you simply turn on bird detection and get started...
Crazy.
Fuji fans are something else! 😂 It's called AUTO focus. It shouldn't require an advanced degree to make use of it.
No, you're not "using it wrong". It's just trash.
Who the hell needs highly trained pilots in planes, just let the autopilot deal with tak-off, landing, turbulence etc.
That's how it works, right? AF means you check in your brain at the door?
@@brownbear100 We are talking about consumer-grade cameras here not airplanes, lol.
@@brownbear100dude you’re comparing auto focus on $2000 camera to millions of dollars plane. You also risk people’s life on a plane, so you damn right it has to be highly trained. Whilst the worst you can do with a camera is you hit someone in the head with it. So dumb.
@@ufukkiblat read my post again, you don't understand.
I said the expensive plane still relied on its highly trained pilots. Never said anything about a highly trained autopilot.
But thank you for making my point better than I could. That super advanced autopilot on planes costing hundreds of millions still depends on human pilots to know what they are doing. But you expect the auto focus on the comparatively cheap camera to require no human thought 😂
It's not just Fuji fans, but any kind of fan. If you think Fuji fans are crazy, you haven't seen micro four thirds Olympus/OM Systems. :-)
Damn, that's what I was missing, gotta hire a focus puller for my next photoshoot
exactly hahah
Binged all your videos after cameraconspiracies brought me here. Awesome honest content. Thank you for this. Hope you'll find your way to happiness one way or the other 💜
This is what Fuji fans should be! Thank you for your tests, videos and desire to convey this information to the manufacturer, who, as if deliberately, ignores and does not correct their problems. I am also an X-H2s user and confirm that the autofocus in this camera is a complete disgrace. Moreover, with every fw update, they make everything even worse!)))
I’m a Fuji user but this cracks me up! Users who are blinded to the faults of their preferred system are so blinkered!
I’m a stills guy and wouldn’t know how to use video, so I shoot Leica and Fuji. If I wanted video I’d shoot Sony - everyone knows that!. However, the problem here is that some of Fuji’s models are marketed as videocentric, so for the money they SHOULD be better, but Fuji are at least 5 years behind the curve in this area.
Like I say, it’s not an issue for me but it would certainly hold me back from completely relying on Fuji’s autofocus in critical situations like weddings and events.
I love my fujifilm cameras, but the fan boys are wild for this....
Thank you both for holding Fujifilm’s toes to the fire. I get why people defend them, but it’s not ok to advertise falsely.
🤣🤣🤣It's almost comical at this point! Going between Edvard's videos and the forums to watch the reactions/responses.
Pass me some popcorn!
Keep up the good work @edvard !
Hopefully this creates enough traction to get improvements on the autofocus in the next couple of firmwares.
Edvard, great video. Your channel is like a breath of fresh air. I have lost trust in most camera review channels. Please keep up your videos and don’t give up. Camera conspiracies recommended your channel in one of his latest videos. Looking forward to your next videos.
If I was at Fuji I would be reaching out to this guy & replicating/testing stuff.
He is a treasure trove of information feedback. And yet they pretend he is trash & ignore him.
This is why we are starting to hate big corporations in 2024. They still pretend they are above us & don’t interact with us even though we have social media & connectivity.
Keep the great videos coming my guy 🤝👍
These issues are easily reproduced... No need to reach out to anyone. Fuji should be testing (*and fixing*) this stuff on their own.
NO pro sports or wildlife photographers- not paid by Fujifilm- are using their equipment (for very good reasons).
So it's very hard for them to test their AF system.
Their development capacities are very limited too, as they need very long to reach a level, the competition had some years ago. Sony decided years ago: we are using additional hardware for AF.
I really think , I am 100% sure that they dont test the new "updates". You would have found this issues in 10 minutes playing with the camera.
We are the last few real Fujifilm fanboys that actually want fujifilm to improve. I really hope them fuji cultist realise that what you are doing is trying to start a movement that would make fuji change their ways but spiderman, rangerover, jail and all them fuji clowns wants it to go back. I can't believe they would even suggest manual focus on a stacked sensor top of the foodchain fully spec'd out advanced mirrorless camera that came out in 2022.
I posted on reddit about my frustration with the xh2 and i got downvoted to oblivion lol. I was told that I don't know how to use a camera when I shot with a canon 5dII for 10+ years... At least the 5dii autofocus doesn't lie like the fuk*n green fuji box that is unpredictable. That bride holding the flower example is one of the biggest thing that made me switch out of fuji xh2. she was walking down the aisle, I had to make a quick decision, my default is eye detect and it detected the flowers... I did a burst of maybe 40 shots hoping that I get a good shot in one of them but unfortunately, the 8 photos in focus, she was making a weird face. I get that I could move to single point AF and AF-S just to be more accurate and I did that eventually but what is the point? Like why do I even bother with an expensive camera if single point + AF-S is what I gotta do? might as well go use an old full frame dslr.
Keep it coming edvard. At this stage I just enjoy the comedy because I am not sure if Fuji or their obsessed fanbase wants anything to change in their system.
Exactly this ! Reverting to those old AF methods so why bother. Camera from 20 years ago for $500 or even less can do the same.
Even if you would have used AFS it will still not be sharp because after you half press shutter camera will lock focus if she was moving towards the camera , time between the half button press and camera taking picture , she would have moved a bit.
@@edvard2942 that is true.
Fujifilm’s subject detection ai autofocus requires the subject to predict where the autofocus will land. Fuji is way ahead of its time. We are using the camera wrong.
You are doing great for all of us who still like Fuji, but with their ignorance and denial I am afraid we will not see a Fuji from time of xt2, xt3 anymore 😢
“Bob the Mod” threatened to have me kicked off The DPR Fuji forum because I questioned his “cease and desist” mandate for any commentary questioning the 6.0 FW update… this is precisely where I go to ensure there are not bugs in new FW updates. That attitude firmly moved me right past buying the X-H2 I had planned and I upgraded to an A7RV. The next weekend I got to play with an X-H2S at a store where we were vacationing… AF wasn’t even in the same league as my A7IV or A7RV… it’s a shame as I love Fuji’s platform. The A7RV gives me 26mp in Crop Mode and gives me an instant 1.5x TC for all my Sony lenses (or I can use MRAW for the FF equiv.). Essentially I bought a mini MF, FF, and APSC all in one. I should thank “Bob” he saved me a lot of $ in the end.
Bob the mod "banned" me from posting on the forum (I wanted to reply and tell the people to ask me what they want about settings). He send me 1 page text why I can't reply.
@@edvard2942 Not the most transparent forum on DPR. I’ve never had any issues with Mods… especially as a Moderator myself. Really enjoy that forum otherwise as it’s very Stills centric. Having had the opportunity to finally test the X-H2, I decided to upgrade to the A7RV… it’s everything I had wanted the A7IV to be. Blown away by its IBIS and Subject detection. I’ll stay in the Sony forum :D. Pretty mature forum now that so many have left other platforms for it. I’m still rooting for Fuji to get their AF dialed in, it’s an amazing platform and it is causing them many sales I think.
This is the funniest channel I’ve found in a long time, keep up the good work
I hope your videos get the folks at Fujifilm working to fix these problems. The system is good, but it needs to improve to compete with market players, you are right.
"It's not broken it's different..." 🤣🤣🤣
These guys are delusional. If you're a real fan you would acknowledge the flaws and want them to be fixed.
The copium is reaching record levels 😂😂😂
I sold my xh2s, xt5 and xpro3 for Sony a7IV and 20-70 F4.
I miss Fuji colors, but I missed focus more. I had all the LM motor lenses, they can’t focus. The second I raise my hand in a video, it hunts and pulses. Maybe one day Fuji will be on par but right now, not even close.
I’m a solo content creator, I don’t have time to play with focus settings or manual focus. I’m run and gun, but even for photography I missed 40% of my shots regardless of the event… fujifilm get to work!
I had a first gen Nikon Z6 a few years back and although it was a fantastic camera it was leagues behind what the competition was doing in terms of autofocus. I was always doubtful after taking shots and had to double check because of the false positives the camera gave. People have to understand that the autofocus technological advancements are helping us get better photos. Yes we can always use single point and manual focus but then what is the point of buying an advanced camera? Only when you shoot with a modern sony, canon or even the latest nikon cameras do you realise what you have been missing. You concentrate more on the other aspects of photography or videography like composition, lighting, exposure etc and leave the autofocus to the camera and be confident that they will be in focus. No good will come by defending brands who are simply not keeping up with what they claim in their marketing material.
Precisely why I moved from my Z6ii to an A7iv… If the Z8 had a fully articulated screen I may have moved back, instead I just upgraded to the A7RV… aside from fps, it’s everything I’ve always wanted… Sony’s colors are even finally on par with CaNikon!
I own an X-S10 and XT5. I do love the colours but the auto focus is so frustrating. I wanted the X-T5 to be a huge improvement on the X-S10 and it has been a huge disappointment. I also owned the Sony RX100 VA. That is a 2015 camera and its auto focus was literally leaps and bounds better than the X-T5. 8 want to cry 😢
Reminds me of Panasonic and their older DFD autofocus where people were making videos about the best settings for shooting video with AF. If it works, it works, and if it doesn't, it doesn't - no matter the brand. It's that simple :)
We bought a camera with eye autofocus and we just want it to work properly. As simple as that. I dont know whats so hard to understand about that...
I dont care about some people saying stupid things, like use manual and such.
We all normal people, the mayority, know that the AF perfomance is really BAD. Its just a fact, anyone can make some tests and get the same results. Im not going to lose my time with someone that is just trolling us.
Fuji needs to make this a priority. Or it will lose costumers, like me. And, well, if Fuji doesnt care about that, i also wont care and will just change the brand in my next purchase.
Life is too short to lose the time with those that dont care about us.
Thank you Spider-Man 😭
I guess that Fuji users just did not have the chance to try other brands in the past years, living in their bubble. When I switched from Lumix to Sony, it was like crawling from under a rock. Lumix cameras are great, but some Sony features, particularly the AF are miles ahead.
I see the same “bubble” with camcorder user community. They are stubbornly trying to sell old tiny sensor camcoders for ridiculous prices (I guess they are ok to other camcorder users)unaware of the advancements and prices of the mirrorless cameras in the past decade.
How did you find Lumix? I am preferring Lumix S5 over Sony A6700 because of the IBIS and better video features. Also, the latter overheats.
@@laksh.mp4as a long time Lumix user (GH4R, GH5, G9) the S5 was kinda a bittersweet upgrade. It has major limitations and crops in some framerates, has tiny stupid microhdmi, no usable autofocus and had not many L-mount lens options when it came out. It does not disappoint nor excite. Photos are OK.
Since I switched to Sony ZV-E1 for video, the video options and autofocus are so great, that I do not mind the absence of viewfinder and stupid tiny microhdmi either :D
Love this video 🙌🏼 do it more 🙏🏽
I love my Fuji... and so I use my Sony! I am growing increasingly bitter towards Fuji. Please keep making these videos.
There is a "new kid on the block" and his YT rocks!
Fujifilm is so faithful to the retro style and simulations of its old films that it also wanted to make its cameras for manual use... 😅
BahaHAHA! I love the wedding skit, so true! 🤣😂
The bird in blue sky is a real pet hate of mine. In other forums I frequent I cannot tell you the amount of times some guy shows this kind of work and proclaims the camera's AF is amazing. Really?! Without the bird the camera has NOTHING to focus on, for some cameras in fact the AF just hunts continuously as it can't lock onto zero contrast blue sky! Throw ANYTHING in its path and the camera thanks you because now it has a whopping choice of ONE THING to lock focus on... Idiets!
Yessss Eddy , exactly :)) , Every camera hunts against a blue sky , even a sony, and also every camera will find the bird.
Normally, I don't like pure salt, but the salt plus the accent are making this my favorite camera channel. This comment is for the algos.
I assume he is norwegian. I enjoy his accent. Greek/French/English speaker here.
Thanks for willing to "kick the bee hive" for the many of us who were frustrated but not willing to speak up to annoy the died hard fuji fanboys. Love the names you came up with, Jack Norris, so funny and yet so obvious. 😂. Btw, cool accent. 😁
Just wondering, have you considered Canon? Great AF + great colors. With Sony and Fuji, you can only choose one.
Im not willing to pay a lot of $$ for RF glass.
Anyone who denies there's nothing at fault with Fuji AF needs a check-up from the neck up. I love my X-H2. It makes me want to take photos. I like the way it looks. I love the colour science. However, Sony AF is better in every regard (I trialled an A7iv). But I don't want to shoot Sony. I find their cameras soulless. That's me - you do you.
I could live with AF that can't focus but telling me you're focused on one thing when you're actually focused on something else is absolutely useless!
For 2 years I planned to buy my 1st mirrorless camera (X-H2). The very week I planned to purchase it, I saw your original video about auto-focus. So, instead, I purchased a Sony. I love my new camera -still, I wished the Fuji would have worked out. Thank you, I think I made the correct decision
Same here… the next weekend I was able to test them side-X-side and the Sony’s AF was both superior in performance and easier to set up. What surprised me was that I actually preferred the Sony body and handling over the X-H2S.
I love this guy... Make more videos please..
You are a star!!! Amazing job. Keep going exposing the taboos
The usr error excuse is hilarious. I was an X-H2S freaking expert and had very good results, half the time. My R6MII AF does all the work for me, all the time. The difference is STAGGERING. I liked almost everything about the Fuji, except for the laughable AF. The stacked sensor really does allow you to get more out of focus photos per second than any other brand.
I'd never use mirrorless camera for work.
Always either rigged RED or if there's more budget, Arri Alexa for commercial work.
Fan boys will always be fan boys no matter which brand they're sticking to.
you don't understand 😡😡 , Fujifilm has the best Autofocus Simulation
autofocus simulation XDDDDD
Hahaha
I've been reading the comments and thought the same thing! I've been a longtime Fujifilm shooter. Recently, I ordered the X-T5, but the autofocus was so bad I had to return it, no matter what lenses I used - XF33mm f/1.4 WR, XF18mm f/1.4 WR, XF56mm f/1.2 WR. I'm switching to Sony because my patience has worn out. I hate to do it because I loved everything else about the X-T5, but I can't accept that the autofocus rarely hits the eye. I didn't buy this expensive camera to use single-point AF when shooting portraits and moving subjects. Much cheaper cameras can manage that.
The guy taking a photo of a (not his) baby .... has taken ~65.000 photos with his XH2 - according to XApp - bought his first camera 40 years ago. Has a XH2s too, 11.000 shots with both during a weekend..(no AF issues with the XH2s). Not much experience, of course ;-)
P.S.: he ordered a Nikon Z8 yesterday.
P.S.: "don't use eye AF" - that's like "don't use the internal light meter" ...
The camera should not take this work over from the user too. External light meters are great....
Yeah. Nikon autofocus prior to Expeed 7 was mocked but there the problem was speed not accuracy. When the Zf came out, I was interested to switch from X-T3 to the Zf. With the Zf, autofocus is a blast. It is just „boom, done“. Granted, every cameras has a few annoyances. Why has Nikon decided to not put a small thumb grip on that thing? Why don’t they have more smaller lenses for that camera? There is no perfect camera and those who say, you are wrong. You are just ignoring the issues ;)
Love your style of ranting, and your doing good work; voicing these issues that many of us experience. Everytime i go shoot and event with Fuji i get slight anxiety about things not being in focus and that shouldnt have to happpen. I remeebr my sony a6100 could pick up moving subject that my xh2s had problems with. Its a real shame....
Fully agree with you. Just sold my X-T4 and was planning to buy X-T5 since I’ve owned all X-T. After watching this and some others videos and remembering AF performance never been great I’m deciding to move at least temporarily away from Fuji. I’ll keep all my lenses at least for a year with hope to go back to my favourite make at some point.
You make my day...and question why I have so much fuji gear....ps...my eyes are out of focus laughing so hard..lock on that Xt-5 (I do like my Fuji stuff!)
Jack Norris 😂😂😂
Subscribed!
I'm on software version. 3.0, I should probably stay here or downgrade right? For the xh2s that is
I love the colours and details coming from my XH2, but for professional work, just to be sure, I have to use AF-S with Eye-AF, and I also take a lot o shots... just to be sure. I'm starting to think about switching to Sony or Canon.
I’ve witnessed the issue with eye detection.. when something appears in the frame green box light on eyes but focus is elsewhere. Hopefully it’s an easy fix for fujifilm..
but continuous focus is garbage..
I’m considering moving to ZF and Sony if they don’t fix
On the topic of wildlife, the H2S massively struggles here too. I'm surprised that person even got birds in focus, and I bet he didn't use tracking. Because tracking for birds is slow and inaccurate and you run into the same exact issues you've shown in your other tests. I got H2S because I love using Fuji cameras for the experience and didn't want to spend $5k or so on a Sony a1 just for af and burst speed. So yeah the person defending with bird photos is definitely just using zone focus and trying to twist the argument lol.
He probably used Zone in those pictures
You are right Edvard . I love Fujifilm and I have used an XT-3 for five years. But their autofocus isn’t anywhere near as good as other camera brands. That’s how it is. I don’t make excuses for them. I want Fujifilm to improve.
I genuinely love the unique strengths that Fujifilm philosophy brings - build quality, size, film simulations, aesthetics, feature-rich value proposition for the price - and that's why I want them to do better when it comes to autofocus and SNR. I want them to be accountable with the marketing and promises they make to their customers. I want them to not just talk big about Kaizen but actually listen to customer feedback and invest in the necessary R&D to improve. I genuinely want them to succeed and want them to have a larger customer base, and I sincerely hope they make the AF system capable enough to make that a reality.
Hi Evard,
I am also an XH2s user. You are right! I like you and you are telling the truth.
I upgraded firmware 6.01 today, and I found it unusable. Fortunately, I found your video, and I have downgraded the firmware to 1.03, and it's back to ok.
I wouldn't say I like Fuji, and I like Fuji. I love Fuji's skin tone. But I don't like the performance on the autofocus.
Thanks. You are an honest person.
Firmware 1 its very usable especially in video subject tracking. I dont gain anything to lie, i tell me experience with the xh2s wich i use daily for paid projects.
In italy we say: "severo ma giusto" 🤭.
If I can ask, what are your setting for the color of your video?
I think it was Pro Neg or Classic Neg , alwasys -2 -2 shadows/highlights.
Banuiesc cine este Jack Norris. Sunt aproape sigur ca nu are probleme sa faca fotografii la nunta si subiectii sa fie in focus. Cu toate acestea ai perfecta dreptate cand spui ca ai cumparat camera pt. ca are optiunea de focus pe ochi. Bafta cu canalul!
Great series of videos Edvard! I upgraded to firmware 6.0 on my XH2 and had a fashion editorial shoot with plenty of daylight. I tried doing simple walking shots and most of my images came out blurry. I wanted to sell my camera after the shoot. How did you get firmware 1.03 back on your camera? I would like to do the same. Please help! Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Its another camera
@@edvard2942 That's what I was afraid of. Thanks so much for taking the time to get back to me!
Fuji user here getting popcorn! Love your videos man. Keep it up, maybe Fujifilm listens eventually....
edit: you did not disappoint! :D
Keep up the pressure on Fuji, it’s way overdue for quality auto focus! 🤙
Thank you for saving me from buying an X-T5. I was deliberating about buying a Fujifilm camera, as I really love the colours, but autofocus is really, really important to me. I have a 6 month-old daughter, and I need to have pictures of her that are in focus, even when there are objects near her face. My Sony a6000 does an OK job of this, but even so, I'm looking for better AF than it has, with better resolution for prints. As much as I was drawn to the X-T5 by the gorgeous colours and the higher resolution, your videos have shown me that I'm absolutely not going to be able to buy a Fuji until Fuji has fixed this issue. Looks like I'm going to be going with a Sony A7Cr or A7rV for my next camera now.
There are fanboys unwilling to see the wood from the trees, there are Fuji users that recognise the weaknesses and work with the camera not against it to get the best results, and there are then those that foolishly upgrade at the earliest opportunity to the latest Firmware and then don't shut up about the problems it has brought them. But the worst are those that just use a platform to regularly mock anyone with a positive attitude and those sensible enough to wait and see with all firmware updates before jumping in with both feet to make irreversible changes without knowing what bugs it might bring. And Fuji isn't alone in this.
There's a difference between highlighting a problem, in what real world situations it manifests (enough with the hand/eye and drunk people walking), and how to get the best out of the camera until the issues are addressed, and just winging about it in clickbait videos.
I was out shooting this morning with the x-t5 (latest FW) and 90mm and turned my attention to the bees diving in and out of some poppies about 5m away. I was already in zone, so half press to get the focus on the poppies, switched to bird detect and fired off a few shots in single shot mode. Wide open of course. 80% hit rate on bees from 5m away. Luck, settings, user? Subject detect doing its job? Or maybe I'm just presenting a limited example of a very specific situation that specifically highlights a point I want to make on the AF. All I need now is a TH-cam channel, a shocked face thumbnail and clickbait tagline.
Bro, Fuji with the colour science and perfect auto focus would drive monopoly in the market, we need other brands to at least compete with each other. 🤣
Actually it's very easy...Sony shooters don't have to discuss because they AF is not working. It just works. Eye detection exist for kerping the eye in focus no matter what settings.
Exactly , On sony even if you make the subject or Sensitivity slow , When it catches the eye it reverts back to the fastest speed to keep the eye in focus. On fuji , If you have tracking to +4 ( advertised as sticky ) It doesnt stay with you if you make 1 step.
I am X-T5 and love it. But I never do video or continuos AF. I have also used Nikon, Canon and Sony. All are much better AF. The argument on AF is a bit like the Linux/Windows argument. Tedious emotional, and doesn’t address the issues.
post about the issues on reddit or other fuji forums and the cultist fanboys will come out and say shit like "oh I just use manual focus so not an issue for me, try manual focus!" ah yes I will use manual focus on my $2499 stacked sensor capable of 40fps shooting... they are so annoying! they have nothing of value to add or comment, why bother contributing?
Edvard…everyone is talking about eye autofocus… what about focus point in video for instance on the car @ f2.8 Is it reliable ? i am debating between a7iv and x-h2s for 4k 60fps videos.
I like fuji better than sony, The af is bad on fuji , but you can do your job , single point is accurate. Best option is to try them both and see wich one you like most.
Loved my XS20 until i did since real world sitting with it at a graduation. Stupid thing overheated in 81 degree weather sitting photos only. Yes temp in settings was set to high. Also got a few false positives where the af was green, then i looked at the image and it wasn't even close to being in focus. My xs20 will be on marketplace this weekend. I already returned my 70-300 today.
great video. now I do not regret buying cheap manual focus lenses 🤣
I'M MAKING THE POINT SMALLER XDDDDDDD *DEAD*
Hahah You always made me laugh... i really like all your videos. So funny. This is real talk anyway and i hope Fuji will stop making new cameras but revamp their autofocus system.. i love fuji because of color and i love using manual lens, but it hurts a lot i can't use my 33 f1.4 more often..
I just switched to Fuji from Sony and you definitely can’t rely on eye AF at the moment. Hopefully they fix it. But I didn’t switch for the autofocus obviously lol
Keep up the videos. I love the vintage style fuji camera's for manual focus lenses. Fuji camera's are more fun to shoot with in my opinion. I don't understand how some people are brand loyal. A lot of us have multiple camera bodies from different manufacturers. I'm shooting a friend's wedding with my Sony A7RII for reliability but for everyday use, I use my fuji camera's.
arguably edvard having a love-hate-relationship with Fujifilm is no longer his deepest secret^^
Jack Norris is absolutely right. I was trying to take pictures of an owl in a tree last night and the bird eye AF NEVER found its eye (even though owls have pretty big f*&king eyes) because there were some branches and twigs between the camera and the bird. To solve this, I used AFS with a tiny focus point and manual focus (super easy to do at 900mm). Great job Fujifilm for giving users alternatives to your terrible tracking AF...
Thanks for doing your tests and for calling out the denials and blind stuff. I love Fuji but I am all for truth. I wouldn't say it's just Fujifanboys that do this- but just fanboys in general. I had some one explain to me why I should never edit directly not he memory card (defending Capture One, which can't do that). DXO and Iridient Digital allow me, and I want to do a quick preview/share.
I was told I was clearly not a professional, not following best practices and what not. It's amazing how people either attack you, or attack your proposition by saying that it's not right, it's not kosher or professional- instead of trying to do a logical argument, inquire about settings, try this or try that without a pre-judgement of the outcome.
I hope Fuji picks this up and simply fixes it. I find ironic that it seems the camera can find the eye- I think that's more than half the battle to get this working.
Fujifilm needs to fire some people, I know this sounds harsh but it worked wonders for Nikon.
I don't know if the old models like xt3 and xt4 has this issue or not, i'm saving to buy the xt3 as my first camera but after watching all of your videos, i don't know if my decision should be made. I hope someone read this comment could give me some advices
XT3! The best fujifilm camera in my opinion for the price of 500$ (second hand) It is the same quality as xh2s , same autofocus (without AI) 4k60
@@edvard2942 The cheapest 2nd xt3 i could find in my country is around 900$, i have no idea why the price of fuji old cameras just keep increasing lol
@@qpng7737 900 its too much, I sold 2 of mine for 500.
I think i am the only one that uses single point focus on all my cameras :)))) Learned to shoot this way 15 years ago, still doing it the same way, works for me tho.
Damn, even Spidy is against you.
I was so looking forward to update my X-T5 to try Reala Ace and have RAWs sent to my phone, but now I'll have to wait for the hopefully next FW update that *MIGHT* address the AF-C issues.
In your opinion might the S5II autofocus be trash too?
No , it seems almost sony level, You can see if the af is good from a transition, if its smooth = good phase detection, On fuji is always in steps = contrast detection is used more than phase.
It appears on S9 it's always phase detect.
If I have to think about twenty settings and optimizations to get my autofocus semi working it is simply useless. I want my af to work, not make me work.
@edvard I am a huge Fuji fan boy! But not for the Auto focus. I agree I would welcome any upgrades to the AF. I mainly do portraits and youth sports So I have time to make adjustments. I also have the XT-5 but I notice some AF Issues as well. Granted it may not be 50% bad but it is not 100% either and hey for this kind of money I welcome the continued effort to get as close to 100% hit rate as possible. Being a fan boy is fine just don't be a blind rude fan boy. LOL
I've been using Fujifilm for 6 years for photo and video. Same as you, @edvard, I got excited when they released the Fujifilm X-H2S, and I even bought two of them. But after updating them to the latest firmware, I just said to myself, "I've had enough of this crap." I just sold all my Fujifilm gear in exchange for the Sony A7 IV with Sigma and Tamron glass, and I'm so happy about this move.
My favourite from Fujifam for all those years was : use single point or manual focus, that's how pros work. Yeah I was using single with my old Nikon D700 for years and I don't buy new tech for over $2000 to revert to those old lame methods. With Canon R8 and Nikon Zf I am having hard time to miss focus whether in video or in photo regardless of settings and that's how it should look like in modern camera. I can focus on composition or interaction with my subject instead. Fuji fanboys are like wives beaten by their alcoholic husbands...they will make all possible excuses, but he is a good guy, he just beats me on Sundays so it's not that bad and I will stay with him no matter what. If that's your cup of tea then fine but stop making excuses and those stupid comments for others. If you like single point, zone, manual focus then crawl back to your cave and be happy. Btw I am using my Fuji with zone AF and manual lenses to have fun and I get nice images in focus but I can't imagine how all those pro shooters that use XH2S for weddings feel like now when all of the sudden their hit rate with eye-AF dropped significantly. I guess they just wait in hope for a fix and until then reverted to single and zone af or maybe shoot in 30fps bursts and then go through million's of images to select those couple ones which nailed focus. Either way not great experience.
I have the ultimate wet dream for you! Just use manual focus on a professional set and blame the focus puller if something is out of focus! 🤣 By the way, since launch, I have used the X-H2s next to my RED cameras (always manual focus only). I used the a7siii alongside the X-h2s for a year. I was always disappointed when I looked at the material from the a7siii... I can hardly describe it but the skin never looks right on the a7siii... I sold the a7siii again end of story...
That's why I didnt like the a7siii too.
Good job 👏
i love this honest and brutal shit. plus your accent. help ❤ hahahaha where are you from brother?
I'm romanian
Gracias por dar a conocer esto, de momento me compre una S5II de segunda mano si funciona mejor que mi XH2S (ydemomento si funciona mejor) vendere todo mi equipo de fuji y me pasare a panasonic
First 😅
Thank you for doing these tests and reviews.
That's exactly what happens to me every time and my wife thinks i don't know what I'm doing. She took my fuji camera and took a picture of me ending up focusing on the beautiful greek background 🤣 i had a d200 (!!!) for a few months and that one focused better 🤣 not to mention the sony a6000 that I'm giving to my brother. I'm a fuji boy because it's the only camera I've got and can afford but otherwise I'd get a Zf
Loved my D200!
This is so funny 😂
When someone says that you don't know how to setup yor fuji camera and you are just a bad photographer, it means that all idiots shoot on fuji, and all the PROs shoot on sony cameras, this is why on sony good autofocus - only pro photographers use them
Which is the best firmware on X-H2S?
I’m on 5.10
@@stratopause From my tests with all the firmwares is complicated , on 1.03/2 video af is the best (not great) but photo burst is bad , on the 3.0-5.10 video af is worst but photo bursts better.
I'm surprised and can't believe that there are people like that exists in the real world !!!
Fuji make me shoot more than other camera ,cause my photo all blurred i need take another photo😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Love it.