I was taught to do it all at once, but some guys will scratch coat the walls. I think it is just a carry over from stucco work. They did a scratch coat for stucco so why not do it for the shower/tub walls too, etc...
Nice! Sometimes I put the wire lathe through the floor and roll up the curb. Same as you have done, but I like the weight of the bed holding down the curb as well as the whole thing being uniform. When you level your curb, why not tap a level line on the outside of the curb and pull your flat trowel in a sloped angle across? Awesome to know guys out there are still doing it the right way and not putting in schluter crap!
I cheat and use a product called easy curb. The liner goes in between the inside and outside pieces of easy curb then screw together at the top about 2.5 inches from shower floor. Then packed mud on both sides of liner.
Hot moped pan and curb , lathe formed to the curb 1x6 nailed to the top of the curb use torpedo level mud face and inside pan curb screed off 1x6 inside outside curb set slope if top of the curb 1/4 “ stick set to outside face of curb
Excellent video! One small thing is that the traditional way to use the chicken wire is to add an additional 2" bend into the shower pan so it ties into your deck mud. It really does need that tie-in because of how much abuse it gets as a step
I’ve been watching this dude for the past 2 weeks. Very technical. Giving good info. I’m gonna do a shower and feel pretty confident it won’t look like a 1st graders sand castle gone bad. Thanks Isaac
Love everything up to you applying the cement/mortar. Set a board, the dimension of the required finish, on top of the curb. You don't have to level it.Take your measurement to have finish curb parallel to shower wall. Apply your mud on both sides of curb and float it flush to the board on top. It takes ten minutes or less. Give it some time to set up then use two c- clamps to secure two straight edges on either sides of curb. Level those straight edges at the required height, dump in your mud and float it flush to the straight edges. another ten minutes.
Right on brother. I took my house flip side job to full-time contractor, things like this are setting me aside from my competition. I've done this before but with way more thought and less straight forward. You're saving my butt!
I absolutely love your videos, I've done several showers for our customers, we are in the custom home line of work, I can always learn, an old builder told me when we stop learning we're done I've learned so much watching your videos. GREAT WORK! Keep it up man.
Issac good evening, I love the information on your videos. I was born in a tradesman family, my dad is a union bricklayers, my grandfather is an electrician and I learn some tile setting from my uncle, but I have never learn so much as with your videos. Thanks so much.
I wish these videos were around when I was making showers. I would be embarrassed to admit how long it took me to float a curb and my results weren't this good. But my favorite trick in this video is raising the pan up off the floor so you can work on it with out being on your knees. And then you can put it down when you're done. :)
Your videos are great. I’ve been in the industry for 26 years. Forgot more than most guys will ever know. I used to try and teach my helpers but some get it and some it goes right through their ears.
your chicken wire theory helped me a lot I used rabbit wire, thanks for this 5 star video. I did not have your tools but hand floated it to perfection. THank you
Excellent work I thought people didn’t float anymore, now days everyone using this cement board .Kerdi board etc that don’t last a while I really think that the floating method is the best of the tile industry
Great video! Getting ready to do my first shower and this answered my curb questions. I'm going to make a wood block that fits between float straps to keep everything plumb and square
Great videos! I’m a home owner doing a DIY master bath shower and tub remodel and couldn’t do it without getting knowledge from guys like you. Would love to start a second career doing this.
WOW finally some body knows what they are doing. I always say mud it .plus the walls.great job. I hope red guard man is paying attention. Issac great job.
Interesting, I have not seen this method yet. Here in Colorado I was first taught, and a lot of guys still do wrap the vinyl with backer board (and screws) and then redguard the backer board. I stopped doing them that way about ten years ago though, because I had started seeing too many repair projects where water was getting outside the shower and finding it's way under the curb framing and swelling the lumber. I now pour a concrete curb encapsulating the liner.
Thanks for the video. I like to rip down a 2×6 to the finished height of curb inside and outside. Make a form that is level and plumb, slip it over wire wrapped curb, wet it down, pack it with dry pack, screed off the top, remove form and fill in low spots. Super fast
We have been doing this type of curb for almost 10 years now. One thing that makes the process a lot easier and faster is to screw in hardi board on the outside and just form the top and front of the curb. This way you have a perfect level piece of hardie to build your curb off.
Hey Isaac, great video! Exactly, I mean EXACTLY the way I float a shower curb. So awesome to see you do it and put it out on TH-cam so others can see how it's done and it's been done right for a long, long time. I love the part where you claim it man, you still got it! That sense of satisfaction and accomplishment when you nailed it really hit home with me. Great job!
I'm in Louisiana, used mud when I started in late 80's but use backer board now on curbs. I drill holes or cut lines in backerboard then silicone them on the back side then put screws threw and silicone on top then hydroban on top and haven't had any issues in the around 15 years I've been doing this method. Didn't start using Hydroban until probably 6 years ago, but still haven't had issues on jobs I did before. When I floated curbs, putting something under level and bracing with bricks works so you don't have to hold it makes life much easier. I actually like floating more but the company I do most of my work for prefers using the backerboard.
first rate job and no shortcuts! excellent video! i like the way you explain every step that you do. perfection is made up of seemingly trivial details and perfection is not trivial!
Thankyou for the effort to film this. I watch your videos and what I take from it is that you put effort, time and pride in your work. ...It shows!...Great work and I appreciate it.
Thank You for making this video .I have my first DIY curb to do and have seen so many videos where they screw right through the pan liner and I know that is asking for a leak. Thank you again
Thanks! Love your videos man, you are a REAL professional, and I mean that because you show things you do that turn out awesome, and show the few things that you have done in the past that could have been done differently/better.
Isaac I'm very happy you showed this video. It shows the old school craft. It's not for everyone but I believe it's the best way. I work in alot of very old homes that have mud showers that are 50+ years old with felt and lead pan liners. I would like to see any of the new methods last that long. I did read somewhere in the comments about a wicking system Vs a top sealed system and I have seen the results of pans with liners and top membranes. The mud smells of mold and is still wet. It's one or the other not both. I'm in Michigan so it may depend on the climate your in as well. Keep up the great videos!
I’m old school I mud all my curbs. Like the the cedar shims I’ll try that technique next one I do seems like it will work a lot better, thanks for video and time
@@TileCoach Birmingham Alabama. I generally scratch coat all of my walls( tub hop ups, shower walls, ceilings and curb). It's good to see another tile mason controlling all the variables.
Fantastic video! I found your video after seeing a bunch of other people screwing into the top/sides of their curb (why have a waterproof liner if you're going to poke holes into it??). I really enjoyed the way you explained things. Video length was perfect, camera angles great, just awesome.
Great video! Nice to see people floating instead of using schleuter for their curbs and pans! One question, why not use bricks instead of wood? Bricks don’t expand and contract which can crack the grout and/or tiles!
👍🏻nice mud job. I don’t know why I’m watching this after work, but thanks for taking the time to make these videos. We scratch our floats so it’s interesting for me to see slightly different methods at arriving at the same goal. I bet that’s the first curb you’ve done without knee pads😀
Just out of curiosity, what is the school of thought behind a single coat vs. a scratch and brown? And I wonder why it appears to be regional. Once in a blue moon we will do a backsplash that way and I’ve never liked how long strips take to set up.
I use the excess mud I screed off the inside to hold my straightedge up level , and then for the front I always carry 1x4 and use it as a form board, leave it overnight and it just is so crisp! Nothing beats floating
Isaac Ostrom yeah I use to engage in all the tile forums and yes people tend to talk down on floating, man when a shower is floated though, it is so nice to tile , solid, flat, plumb. I’ve done some other methods and they are ok , I just get tired of using thinset backbuttering to straighten out walls. It’s a lot of labor, I get it, it’s really easy to carry 5 sheets of kerdiboard into a bathroom and be done with it, and it is a skill to work with mud , and if a diy tile guy hasn’t received proper training,they aren’t gonna know how to sling mud. I did a 4 year apprentice under a union setter from so-cal , I went on to work for a company that 100 percent used cement board, then took my license test and went back to floating 👍🏼
Isaac Ostrom Thanks for all of your really helpful videos. Did you end up doing one comparing cement board and floating? As a DIYer I’m trying to do the best job for my skill set so that comparison would be really interesting.
I'm a builder and if you know what your doing. It doesn't matter if it's wood or concrete. The right steps get perfect results. Bunch of hackers out there. Tile coach is good.
I've found screwing a 2x6 or whatever finished height you want, to the floor, in the front the curb 1" away from the wire. It gives you a staight/flat outside edge and a flat level top (sloped of course). Then I just go big in the inside and use a straight edge to cut the inside to the desired width.
Thank you for the detail instructions! I've replaced quite a few bath tubs and tile work, now I'm doing my first shower pan/curb, a little nervous about it.
I build my curbs out of high strength concrete. Frame out your curb with forms. Put 2 lengths of 1/2” rebar running from right to left 3/4 of the way up from the floor.Drill into the shower framing with a paddle bit and insert the rebar. Then run your pan liner up between the rebar in the center of your curb. I do high rise apartments about 3 to 5 pans a day.
Mike , what will be the final height and width of your curb not factoring in thin set and tiles? Like your idea!! One more thing , the two length of rebars will be side by side , correct? How far apart ? an inch or so? ..and like you said 3/4 of the way up.
Question for anyone who might know. Does it matter when I float the curb? I've laid my preslope (over plywood with a moisture barrier and lath) and will put down the liner, then lath over the curb. Do I want to float the curb before my top layer of drypack, or can I do it after that is done? Does it matter? Thanks for any feedback and Thank you for the awesome advise! you've saved me a ton of time with your tips and videos!
What a lot of guys do for their cubs for waterproof is install vinyl, then install board with screws on top and both sides and waterproof the board with a liquid membrane, or of course your Schluter/Wedi curbs etc. This would slightly increase the height of the curb one half inch compared to 2 inches of float. Low profile curbs and barrier free showers are the norm now. Would you ever use two 2x4's to save the extra 1 1/2" height?
Well, I was talking about multiple systems, but maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm nearly positive that the NTCA states that using backerboard such as gypsum board (drywall) or concrete board etc. in conjunction with a crack isolation liquid membrane (Redgard) is approved as well as systems such as Schluter kerdi membrane installed on gypsum board (drywall) is also approved whether on walls or curbs. Also, I see you guys use a lot of Schluter shower kits which is a full seal system meaning "no water in, only water out." which is also a NTCA approved method. I'm not that familiar with TCNA, but I'm sure they have similar approved methods of waterproofing for shower's.
Isaac Ostrom Mahalo for the interesting video🤙🏽. Couple ? If you don’t mind, you say we can’t tie the two in meaning red guard the shower wall backerboard to the mud bed mix shower pan? And 2nd ? Is you guys say it’s a moisture sandwich on shower pan with red guard and liner kinda curious when does the weep holes kick in. I just hear this all over the John bridge forum as well as youtube. Aloha
Isaac Ostrom MAHALO🤙🏽 SO IF THE RED GUARD OR ANY TOPICAL MEMBRANE ON THE SHOWER PAN IS APPLIED WITH A WEEP SYSTEM AND WATER GETS CAUGHT IN BETWEEN(mold sandwich) WOULDNT IT FOLLOW THE PAN LINER WITH PRE SLOPE TO THE WEEP HOLES? JUST A ? MY FRIEND WHERE I NEED TO CLARIFY FOR MY OWN GOOD AND YES I DO HAVE A TCNA HANDBOOK IT HELPS ALOT BUT THEN AGAIN JUST LIKE THE JOHN BRIDGE FORUM WHERE THERES A TOPIC SECTION (liberry) AND HOW TO BUILD SHOWERS BUT ALOT OF PICS ARE WITH GREEN BOARD ON WALLS🤔... I SEEN TEST WITH RED GUARD ON CARD BOARD, DRY WALL, CBU, AND EVEN BROWN WRAPPING PAPER AND IT WAS WATER PROOF BUT THEN AGAIN ONLY SCHLUTER kerdi CAN USE THEM ON DRY WALL BACKING I SHOWER AREA? MAHALO AGAIN MY FRIEND I JUST WANNA KNOW WHATS THE RIGHT ANSWER BC ALL THESE TEST THAT ARS BEING PERFORMED IS PROVING OTHERWISE AND I CONTACT SCHLUTER AS WELL WHOS LOST IN THE FROST😂😂😂🤙🏽
Just seen this video and did my curb last night just like this but wish i wouldnt seen the part of leveling it first wouldve made it much easier lol! But for the first time as a DIY i think it came out pretty good? And its leveled all around !:)
Any reason you didn't use expanded metal lath?,..Rather than regular lath? I've never seen this lesser type used on a shower curb or floor. ALthough not as strong, I suppose it would work. Thanks for the video. Glad somebody has the energy for this.
Awesome Vid! I am not a mud guy here in jersey but I do mud shower bases and floors when needed. But this is def a very good method to know.Thank you for making this video!
I am a plumber in the NYC area. Years ago the tile setters always did this but to save thickness they would take a 2*6 and stand it on end instead of laying 2*4 on the flat. Most of the guys I worked with ripped an inch off th get it lower but the 2*4 on end was considered to low. The ones I did for myself are all mudded curbs still best method.
Keep up the good work and you a great teacher to. I preffer a single 2x6 standing on edge instead of the 2x4 on a flat. The shower curb with 2x4s just gets to wide in my opinion. On seperate note.I know you only made a mock up of this shower for teaching purposes, but the pan liner at the top of the curb should be about 3 inchs above the "Finished" curb height.
What was underneath the waterproof material that you laid mud on top of? I have to build a curb on a flat surface but I want to waterproof it like your videos. Great videos!
I use mud or tile scraps to hold up my inside edge. Then I have my helper hold up the outside edge and get it perfect in one shot like he mentions. Nice curb though!!
Always great informative videos. I have definitely learned to do better waterproofing methods. Where can I purchase that dyna crete fat mud here in in Southern California. I do travel to northern California as well if I can purchase up there. Thanks again for all the great information, making the jobs easier, solid, corretly and more durable.
Great video, thanks so much for taking the time! I'm doing a shower pan rebuild and trying to re-use the shower door/glass wall by matching the height of the curb to the improperly installed curb which had backer board nailed to the top/sides. Can the top be 1/2" thick? Or do I need to cut out one of the 2x4s and make it 2" thick? Thanks!
Excellent. This is how I do my curbs also, but I was born and raised in SoCal so no stranger to mud.
I was taught to do it all at once, but some guys will scratch coat the walls. I think it is just a carry over from stucco work. They did a scratch coat for stucco so why not do it for the shower/tub walls too, etc...
Nice! Sometimes I put the wire lathe through the floor and roll up the curb. Same as you have done, but I like the weight of the bed holding down the curb as well as the whole thing being uniform.
When you level your curb, why not tap a level line on the outside of the curb and pull your flat trowel in a sloped angle across?
Awesome to know guys out there are still doing it the right way and not putting in schluter crap!
I cheat and use a product called easy curb. The liner goes in between the inside and outside pieces of easy curb then screw together at the top about 2.5 inches from shower floor. Then packed mud on both sides of liner.
Hot moped pan and curb , lathe formed to the curb 1x6 nailed to the top of the curb use torpedo level mud face and inside pan curb screed off 1x6 inside outside curb set slope if top of the curb 1/4 “ stick set to outside face of curb
Henry’s injected in 16 penny nail holes used to place and level 1x6 on top of the curb 4 holes total nails are crossed
Excellent video! One small thing is that the traditional way to use the chicken wire is to add an additional 2" bend into the shower pan so it ties into your deck mud. It really does need that tie-in because of how much abuse it gets as a step
I’ve been watching this dude for the past 2 weeks. Very technical. Giving good info. I’m gonna do a shower and feel pretty confident it won’t look like a 1st graders sand castle gone bad. Thanks Isaac
Same here! But I have been watching a while!
You have the heart of a teacher. I’m glad I found your channel. Thank you.
Love everything up to you applying the cement/mortar. Set a board, the dimension of the required finish, on top of the curb. You don't have to level it.Take your measurement to have finish curb parallel to shower wall. Apply your mud on both sides of curb and float it flush to the board on top. It takes ten minutes or less. Give it some time to set up then use two c- clamps to secure two straight edges on either sides of curb. Level those straight edges at the required height, dump in your mud and float it flush to the straight edges. another ten minutes.
Right on brother. I took my house flip side job to full-time contractor, things like this are setting me aside from my competition. I've done this before but with way more thought and less straight forward. You're saving my butt!
I absolutely love your videos, I've done several showers for our customers, we are in the custom home line of work, I can always learn, an old builder told me when we stop learning we're done I've learned so much watching your videos. GREAT WORK! Keep it up man.
Issac good evening, I love the information on your videos. I was born in a tradesman family, my dad is a union bricklayers, my grandfather is an electrician and I learn some tile setting from my uncle, but I have never learn so much as with your videos. Thanks so much.
So much info packed into 24 minutes. Thanks for taking the time to create this tutorial.
I wish these videos were around when I was making showers. I would be embarrassed to admit how long it took me to float a curb and my results weren't this good. But my favorite trick in this video is raising the pan up off the floor so you can work on it with out being on your knees. And then you can put it down when you're done. :)
Your videos are great. I’ve been in the industry for 26 years. Forgot more than most guys will ever know. I used to try and teach my helpers but some get it and some it goes right through their ears.
Perfect! I am a DIYer getting ready for a full bath remodel. This was the curb video I really needed. Thanks!
Very skilled trades men. This man's craft is his art!
Thanks!
your chicken wire theory helped me a lot I used rabbit wire, thanks for this 5 star video. I did not have your tools but hand floated it to perfection. THank you
Great job!
Another thing to learn from Couch, thanks thanks thanks
Excellent work I thought people didn’t float anymore, now days everyone using this cement board .Kerdi board etc that don’t last a while I really think that the floating method is the best of the tile industry
Just what I needed! Doing my first curb in the am. Wish me luck! Thanks man
How did it go ?
So what happened?
Thanks so much to the 50 Cent of tile! You’re awesome man love your energy.
Great video! Getting ready to do my first shower and this answered my curb questions. I'm going to make a wood block that fits between float straps to keep everything plumb and square
Great videos! I’m a home owner doing a DIY master bath shower and tub remodel and couldn’t do it without getting knowledge from guys like you. Would love to start a second career doing this.
WOW finally some body knows what they are doing. I always say mud it .plus the walls.great job. I hope red guard man is paying attention. Issac great job.
Interesting, I have not seen this method yet. Here in Colorado I was first taught, and a lot of guys still do wrap the vinyl with backer board (and screws) and then redguard the backer board. I stopped doing them that way about ten years ago though, because I had started seeing too many repair projects where water was getting outside the shower and finding it's way under the curb framing and swelling the lumber. I now pour a concrete curb encapsulating the liner.
Thanks for the video. I like to rip down a 2×6 to the finished height of curb inside and outside. Make a form that is level and plumb, slip it over wire wrapped curb, wet it down, pack it with dry pack, screed off the top, remove form and fill in low spots. Super fast
That’s my plan to do !
My curb is looking good! Thanks for the help!
We have been doing this type of curb for almost 10 years now. One thing that makes the process a lot easier and faster is to screw in hardi board on the outside and just form the top and front of the curb. This way you have a perfect level piece of hardie to build your curb off.
Hey Isaac, great video! Exactly, I mean EXACTLY the way I float a shower curb. So awesome to see you do it and put it out on TH-cam so others can see how it's done and it's been done right for a long, long time. I love the part where you claim it man, you still got it! That sense of satisfaction and accomplishment when you nailed it really hit home with me. Great job!
no I'm in laguna Beach, Southern Cali
Isaac thank you so much definitely I’ll be using your tutorial video to do my shower, you give me confidence to do it.
Thanks for making sure your audience can see everything your doing. Great videos....
I'm in Louisiana, used mud when I started in late 80's but use backer board now on curbs. I drill holes or cut lines in backerboard then silicone them on the back side then put screws threw and silicone on top then hydroban on top and haven't had any issues in the around 15 years I've been doing this method. Didn't start using Hydroban until probably 6 years ago, but still haven't had issues on jobs I did before. When I floated curbs, putting something under level and bracing with bricks works so you don't have to hold it makes life much easier. I actually like floating more but the company I do most of my work for prefers using the backerboard.
Thank you for your effort to make this ❤️🥰💯
pretty cool free style curb. Be proud
Just found this channel. Thanks for the info! Your helping me flip houses the right way when I tile.
Perfect!! I was wondering how to make a curb that will last. This was very helpful as are all your episodes. Thank You.👍👍
first rate job and no shortcuts! excellent video! i like the way you explain every step that you do. perfection is made up of seemingly trivial details and perfection is not trivial!
Thankyou for the effort to film this. I watch your videos and what I take from it is that you put effort, time and pride in your work. ...It shows!...Great work and I appreciate it.
Thank You for making this video .I have my first DIY curb to do and have seen so many videos where they screw right through the pan liner and I know that is asking for a leak. Thank you again
Love your work! Easy to understand the teaching for ESL people like me. Keep it up. All the best!
thank you for your time and sharing a incredible skill
Thanks! Love your videos man, you are a REAL professional, and I mean that because you show things you do that turn out awesome, and show the few things that you have done in the past that could have been done differently/better.
This is the video I needed, Thank you! Been following ya for a few months and this just tied everything together for me. All the best to you.
Isaac I'm very happy you showed this video. It shows the old school craft. It's not for everyone but I believe it's the best way. I work in alot of very old homes that have mud showers that are 50+ years old with felt and lead pan liners. I would like to see any of the new methods last that long. I did read somewhere in the comments about a wicking system Vs a top sealed system and I have seen the results of pans with liners and top membranes. The mud smells of mold and is still wet. It's one or the other not both. I'm in Michigan so it may depend on the climate your in as well. Keep up the great videos!
Great job great curb! 👍
Very good job, i feel your passion and dedication on all the jobs you do way to go
I’m old school I mud all my curbs. Like the the cedar shims I’ll try that technique next one I do seems like it will work a lot better, thanks for video and time
your reply came so fast....was watching the granite shower tearout when you answered. Thanks for the info
Thank you excellent VD.
I do my curbs the same way but, I generally do a scratch coat before to let that float coat tighten up a little quicker. Good job.
@@TileCoach Birmingham Alabama. I generally scratch coat all of my walls( tub hop ups, shower walls, ceilings and curb). It's good to see another tile mason controlling all the variables.
Great job. This is how it's done.
Fantastic video! I found your video after seeing a bunch of other people screwing into the top/sides of their curb (why have a waterproof liner if you're going to poke holes into it??). I really enjoyed the way you explained things. Video length was perfect, camera angles great, just awesome.
Great video boss. Always a pro.
Great videos, very informative. Thanks to you I can actually do this stuff on my own.
Brilliant process! Great tile instructor. Thank you.
Great video man... it’s never bad to have and see new ways to do things. Add more videos of other things on tile.
Tile Coach for president 2024. 'Nuff said.
Great video! Nice to see people floating instead of using schleuter for their curbs and pans! One question, why not use bricks instead of wood? Bricks don’t expand and contract which can crack the grout and/or tiles!
Thank you for the very informative videos they are of great help and inspiration.
You have some of the best videos out there bud. Keep up the great work...
Nice curb, Isaac.
Really nice work. Love the curb!
Very helpful. Thank you!
👍🏻nice mud job. I don’t know why I’m watching this after work, but thanks for taking the time to make these videos. We scratch our floats so it’s interesting for me to see slightly different methods at arriving at the same goal. I bet that’s the first curb you’ve done without knee pads😀
Just out of curiosity, what is the school of thought behind a single coat vs. a scratch and brown? And I wonder why it appears to be regional. Once in a blue moon we will do a backsplash that way and I’ve never liked how long strips take to set up.
Yeah I remember my Dad sprinkle the strips on counter tops to help them set, back when people did 4 1/4” and v-cap 😀.
Thank you Isaac for your time explaining this stuff
This was an amazing tutorial. Thank you and God bless you.
I use the excess mud I screed off the inside to hold my straightedge up level , and then for the front I always carry 1x4 and use it as a form board, leave it overnight and it just is so crisp! Nothing beats floating
Isaac Ostrom yeah I use to engage in all the tile forums and yes people tend to talk down on floating, man when a shower is floated though, it is so nice to tile , solid, flat, plumb. I’ve done some other methods and they are ok , I just get tired of using thinset backbuttering to straighten out walls. It’s a lot of labor, I get it, it’s really easy to carry 5 sheets of kerdiboard into a bathroom and be done with it, and it is a skill to work with mud , and if a diy tile guy hasn’t received proper training,they aren’t gonna know how to sling mud. I did a 4 year apprentice under a union setter from so-cal , I went on to work for a company that 100 percent used cement board, then took my license test and went back to floating 👍🏼
Isaac Ostrom Thanks for all of your really helpful videos. Did you end up doing one comparing cement board and floating? As a DIYer I’m trying to do the best job for my skill set so that comparison would be really interesting.
I'm a builder and if you know what your doing. It doesn't matter if it's wood or concrete. The right steps get perfect results. Bunch of hackers out there. Tile coach is good.
Great video and great job.
great job
I've found screwing a 2x6 or whatever finished height you want, to the floor, in the front the curb 1" away from the wire. It gives you a staight/flat outside edge and a flat level top (sloped of course). Then I just go big in the inside and use a straight edge to cut the inside to the desired width.
Such a master
Great video, thank you.
Thank you for the detail instructions! I've replaced quite a few bath tubs and tile work, now I'm doing my first shower pan/curb, a little nervous about it.
I build my curbs out of high strength concrete. Frame out your curb with forms. Put 2 lengths of 1/2” rebar running from right to left 3/4 of the way up from the floor.Drill into the shower framing with a paddle bit and insert the rebar. Then run your pan liner up between the rebar in the center of your curb. I do high rise apartments about 3 to 5 pans a day.
Mike , what will be the final height and width of your curb not factoring in thin set and tiles? Like your idea!! One more thing , the two length of rebars will be side by side , correct? How far apart ? an inch or so? ..and like you said 3/4 of the way up.
Masterful. I share your enthusiasm at 21:30! Great work.
Exactly the video I needed. Thank you!
Super job..
Thanks for the videos
Thanks, will be putting in a shower soon. Great info.
Awsome job dude👍
You got talent bro good work
Amazing! Your video was huge help! Thank you!🙏
good job !
Another awesome video . Keep them coming
I like your videos !!! Im from Fairfield Ca!!
very nice, thank you for sharing. very detailed, informative video. thank you for your time and effort. precious.
Question for anyone who might know. Does it matter when I float the curb? I've laid my preslope (over plywood with a moisture barrier and lath) and will put down the liner, then lath over the curb. Do I want to float the curb before my top layer of drypack, or can I do it after that is done? Does it matter? Thanks for any feedback and Thank you for the awesome advise! you've saved me a ton of time with your tips and videos!
Good video man
What a lot of guys do for their cubs for waterproof is install vinyl, then install board with screws on top and both sides and waterproof the board with a liquid membrane, or of course your Schluter/Wedi curbs etc. This would slightly increase the height of the curb one half inch compared to 2 inches of float. Low profile curbs and barrier free showers are the norm now. Would you ever use two 2x4's to save the extra 1 1/2" height?
Well, I was talking about multiple systems, but maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm nearly positive that the NTCA states that using backerboard such as gypsum board (drywall) or concrete board etc. in conjunction with a crack isolation liquid membrane (Redgard) is approved as well as systems such as Schluter kerdi membrane installed on gypsum board (drywall) is also approved whether on walls or curbs. Also, I see you guys use a lot of Schluter shower kits which is a full seal system meaning "no water in, only water out." which is also a NTCA approved method. I'm not that familiar with TCNA, but I'm sure they have similar approved methods of waterproofing for shower's.
Isaac Ostrom Mahalo for the interesting video🤙🏽. Couple ? If you don’t mind, you say we can’t tie the two in meaning red guard the shower wall backerboard to the mud bed mix shower pan? And 2nd ? Is you guys say it’s a moisture sandwich on shower pan with red guard and liner kinda curious when does the weep holes kick in. I just hear this all over the John bridge forum as well as youtube. Aloha
Isaac Ostrom MAHALO🤙🏽 SO IF THE RED GUARD OR ANY TOPICAL MEMBRANE ON THE SHOWER PAN IS APPLIED WITH A WEEP SYSTEM AND WATER GETS CAUGHT IN BETWEEN(mold sandwich) WOULDNT IT FOLLOW THE PAN LINER WITH PRE SLOPE TO THE WEEP HOLES? JUST A ? MY FRIEND WHERE I NEED TO CLARIFY FOR MY OWN GOOD AND YES I DO HAVE A TCNA HANDBOOK IT HELPS ALOT BUT THEN AGAIN JUST LIKE THE JOHN BRIDGE FORUM
WHERE THERES A TOPIC SECTION (liberry) AND HOW TO BUILD SHOWERS BUT ALOT OF PICS ARE WITH GREEN BOARD ON WALLS🤔... I SEEN TEST WITH RED GUARD ON CARD BOARD, DRY WALL, CBU, AND EVEN BROWN WRAPPING PAPER AND IT WAS WATER PROOF BUT THEN AGAIN ONLY SCHLUTER kerdi CAN USE THEM ON DRY WALL BACKING I SHOWER AREA? MAHALO AGAIN MY FRIEND I JUST WANNA KNOW WHATS THE RIGHT ANSWER BC ALL THESE TEST THAT ARS BEING PERFORMED IS PROVING OTHERWISE AND I CONTACT SCHLUTER AS WELL WHOS LOST IN THE FROST😂😂😂🤙🏽
Using a liner and a topical waterproofing membrane will def create a mold sandwich.Its one or the other!
This is old school true art kerdi is Styrofoam garb you could learn a thing or two from this guy stick to your dewalt vs harbour freight videos
Great video!
Very nice my friend.
Just seen this video and did my curb last night just like this but wish i wouldnt seen the part of leveling it first wouldve made it much easier lol! But for the first time as a DIY i think it came out pretty good? And its leveled all around !:)
Any reason you didn't use expanded metal lath?,..Rather than regular lath? I've never seen this lesser type used on a shower curb or floor. ALthough not as strong, I suppose it would work. Thanks for the video. Glad somebody has the energy for this.
Awesome Vid!
I am not a mud guy here in jersey but I do mud shower bases and floors when needed.
But this is def a very good method to know.Thank you for making this video!
I am a plumber in the NYC area. Years ago the tile setters always did this but to save thickness they would take a 2*6 and stand it on end instead of laying 2*4 on the flat. Most of the guys I worked with ripped an inch off th get it lower but the 2*4 on end was considered to low. The ones I did for myself are all mudded curbs still best method.
Hi. Where in nyc ?
Keep up the good work and you a great teacher to. I preffer a single 2x6 standing on edge instead of the 2x4 on a flat. The shower curb with 2x4s just gets to wide in my opinion. On seperate note.I know you only made a mock up of this shower for teaching purposes, but the pan liner at the top of the curb should be about 3 inchs above the "Finished" curb height.
What was underneath the waterproof material that you laid mud on top of? I have to build a curb on a flat surface but I want to waterproof it like your videos. Great videos!
I use mud or tile scraps to hold up my inside edge. Then I have my helper hold up the outside edge and get it perfect in one shot like he mentions. Nice curb though!!
Always great informative videos. I have definitely learned to do better waterproofing methods. Where can I purchase that dyna crete fat mud here in in Southern California. I do travel to northern California as well if I can purchase up there. Thanks again for all the great information, making the jobs easier, solid, corretly and more durable.
Great video, thanks so much for taking the time! I'm doing a shower pan rebuild and trying to re-use the shower door/glass wall by matching the height of the curb to the improperly installed curb which had backer board nailed to the top/sides. Can the top be 1/2" thick? Or do I need to cut out one of the 2x4s and make it 2" thick? Thanks!
Good job