Moreya is a VERY interesting design for Terran, everything about it seems to be a hybrid of Terran design at its core but then incorporating alien engineering. Really love that Egosoft actually introduced a ship like that as it has been a while since I've personally seen the idea of race hybridisation designs in the X series.... think the last time I saw a ship that was clearly a hybrid design between two races was in the original X:BTF.
Some of the small and medium ships look great, but a lot of the uglier ones make me wish they looked more like their counterparts from X3: Terran Conflict, like the scout for example.
I beg of you to do a new player walkthrough/tutorial at release, I bought this game at initial release and have always struggled with it. I have since then started playing the beta, and I'm starting to lock down the base mechanics and controls, but I would love to play this game with a helpful teacher like you. Enjoying the videos!
One thing to add regarding the Moreya Fighter is that it also has storage for Solid and Liquid. I'm not sure why Egosoft did that but I'd think there's reasoning behind it.
I think I want a Kuraokami for the speed and weapons. I compared with nemesis, others and it's outclassing it. now to chose the weapons.. I think I agree with capt about proton
I've recently bought the game and have been studying your videos for it. It really gives me the impression that, so long as the user interface is good enough, you can really build a Homeworld-like experience within this game, executing complex strategies with complex fleet compositions. Do you think the game as it is now allows for this already, or is the A.I. or interface just not suited for that level of RTS gameplay?
Hope there are A.T.F ships as well, as I really don't like most of these new designs, I like symmetrical ships so the new paranid clone designs are really not selling this dlc for me, hope the Vidar is in there somewhere.
Frog: Works for me well Kopis: A bit strange, but good ship as well Nimcha: Hopefully Yaki Rapier: Damn, i remember this being an USC ship in X3, so the one above is one as well?..... Sigh..... Takoba: Looks good, but it doesnt feel that much like a Terran ship. Maybe i need to see it in white. Kukri: Cant be Terran. Terrans are symetrical. Moreya: Never Terran. Never..... Gotta be Yaki. Kalis: Yes. Yes. Yes. And yes. Gladius: Gladius. Know that name as well. So..... why these wings? Nothing mounted there, not flying in an atmosphere..... Just taking space and asking for more collisions. Baldric: Bought, no questions needed. Bolo: ..... Whats that? Thats a typical alien ship design..... Kuraokami: Reminds me of the heavy fighter of the Vasudans from FreeSpace 2. So.... alien.... sorry..... Katana: ..... *TearsInTheEyes Jian: The question is, what came first: The freighter, or the Gunboat? I hope Gunboat, because changing a freighter to a military ship rings a bad bell which tells me: The Terrans are in dire state, no money, resources, ideas and and and..... In short: They go downhill. Dont like that. Faix: Hmm, these Frigates kind of look all the same In X3 the USC ships were very simple. Could be boring, but they never looked bad. Were build to do their task, no to look good and i liked that. The ATF ships had the feeling of massivnes and being majestic. Gods do i love these ships. These Terran ships here in the oter hand mostly look.... fragile.... alien..... Have unnecessery long wings and other parts and kind of look too smooth. Did the military doctrine change that much? Do they look like they have superior technology and thus better fightes?.... No..... These S and M classes..... Only 3 ships really shine for me as Terran ships. The Katana, Baldric and the Kalis. The other ships arent bad, but they just dont feel Terran to me. Well, Frog can be a Terran ship too xD
To be honest, the Gladius, Rapier and Nincha wings always bothered me, altought, i always thought that it was meant to be operated both in space as in atmosphere. The Takoba and Kahlis are segaris pioneer design, not Terran, moreya and kurowkami are Yaki designs. Also the Jian doesn't seem much, but once you outfit with some split engines and turrets, you will see it as a great killing machine.
Mason stream is my kind of weapon, high damage and low cooling cycle. The reason is simple, for example ship with 3 weapon slots, put 2 ions as primary weapons and 1 mason for secondary. In the first pass take down the enemy shield with ions in few shots then fire a mason once on his hull and kablamoooo, almost one hit kill (for ships under 6000 MW of hull) :P Pretty damn good combination if you ask me, specially if you use ship with 4 or 5 weapon slots, you can even mix this setup with some barage or lasers, or even put more ions and mason as well (for easily taking down Medium corvetes/gunboats or even Large ships ^^). Again example, take the ship with 5 slots, install 3 ions for shield damage and put 2 masons for hull, when you take down the shield (easy enough) of the enemy, just fire those 2 masons and do almost 10K hull damage to the ship (insta kill for mediums), but instead of having 3 ions, you can install only 2 and put just one missile/torpedo, just to be able to bombard the enemy until masons come back online (if you miss the shot ofc) :D Pretty good stuff :D
And that Baldric core frame to me looks less Romulan and more inspired by the smaller Bentusi ship designs (From Homeworld, specifically the Bentusi Destroyer). Got the curved centre design with the two extended arms going frontward with the front of the ship being open following the curve of the arms.
Sorry to the talented Egosoft ship modelers you guys did an amazing job, but the Nimcha and Rapier look fugly. Asymmetry is one thing and I can enjoy asymmetric aesthetics, but what sort of space ship designer would just slap a cockpit in that position? This looks like they designed a ship and somehow forgot to add a cockpit until it's been way too late to rework the entire ship and then just slapped the cockpit to the bottom end of it and call it a day. And it's not even something you could fluff away as some form of engineering culture because those two ships are such extreme outliers to the remainder of the terran ship designs (well, to be fair there's also the Moreya which sticks out like a sore thumb from the rest of the terran ships but althrough not quite to my personal liking it still looks like a spaceship and not dissimilar to other ship designs in X4). The Rapier in particular ... like what the hell is that design? Why even have that odd hull shape? You don't need wings in non-atmostspheric spaceflight so all that mass is just useless. And I'm no aeronautical engineer, but those wings don't look like they'd do much good in atmostpheric flight and that giant-ass vertical hull/wing/whatever would in either case serve absolutely no purpose at best and drag down the performance at worst. The rest of the ships look great but those two ... it's like they had to meet a minimum quota of wingspan for ship designs, did the other ships first only to figure out "oh no, we didn't put enough wings on the other ships, quick let's make two giant, convoluted wings, slap an engine, a gun and a cockpit on it so we can meet the quota!". Urgh, so ugly! The rest look great. The Jian in particular looks amazing with that "why don't we take out the heavy storage compartments on the transport ship and just bolt lots of guns to it instead?" aesthetic.
I jumped back recently with COH. The Terran story seems to be really good so far, and their ships are so nice. I'm looking forward to getting a new one after I make some cash.
Not only that... I feel like there are missing chances to get money in TER sectors. I can't pinpoint a single thing, but overall I'm missing opportunities.
I betray the Terrans and side with the Yaki, thing is, i already have basically all terran blueprints... The terrans got really piss of with me, but the funny thing is that the ANT, TEL, PIO and ARG immediately side with me and start to fight back the Terrans too, pretty fun set the galaxy on fire while i make a power grab of all xenon sectors... Also the VIG and HOP, really hate me, the VIG because i built a station that sells food in their sectors, and the HOP because they were my favorite favorite pirated faction, rip HOP, i miss their ships.
I really want to like the Terran ships and while I do like some of the bigger ones, none of their ships seem to have a consistent design language that you'd expect a faction to have. Most of them just look like they've been randomly thrown together from designs of all factions.
1) Can we talk about the (apparently new) sexy lighting effects? My behemoth fleet is about to be sparkling :D 2) The moreya has universal storage !?!?!
Do I need to do something special to build the Kuraokami corvette at 16:45? I searched everywhere in Earth's orbit and can't find a wharf. The wharf in Mars and Brennan's Triumph doesn't show me that ship as an option to purchase :/
@@smooticus1691 hmm I never noticed the yaki were hybrids of Paranid in X3. Thanks for pointing that out. That said, I look forward to using that fighter
Probably those are Yaki ships, they were Paranid reskins in X3 and in X3 TC/AP Yaki made experiments using Xenon technology, if I rememeber correctly... This will explain those red details on Moreya and Kuraokami.
@@HendyVelarius basically yes, in X3 there were normal pirates and then special pirate faction Yaki who flew different ships and had their own sectors and bases.
@@HendyVelarius I think you heard the Beryll name while playing X Rebirth main plot: that's a Yaki clan, but I don't think they have unique ship designs in the game...
Gotta say, I’m not blown away by any of these designs. Huge inexplicable speed differences, lacking firing arcs, all or nothing shields/weapons balance, the fighters appear to be better scouts than the scouts. Those new weapons look bland and the meson thing seems unuseable. Among the heavy and light fighters there is a clear winner, with the other one being way too slow for its limited shield strength. Slow speed and limited shields is the worst possible combination (see quasar/pulsar) and I don’t understand why Egosoft keeps balancing ships like that. They always perform like ass in fleet battles. It would be nice to see more subtle balancing, instead of just doubling/halving the amount of hardpoints/stats.
Slower? the pulse laser projectile is 3x faster than proton barrage. but still proton barrage is probably better if you aim ahead meson stream can be nice to take out fighters in one shot. but using mixed speed weapons on the same ship is problematic. I'd gather that a large force equiped with meson stream would devastate any fleet and hit and run tactics would be advantageous. still weighing my options Split Neutron Gatling (M) : has higher dps than proton, ALOT more rate but slower 1728m/s 4km 11 473 dmg/sec
@@CaptainCollins Strange question, but no, I don't watch her videos regularly. I have seen a couple of her videos last year, and I liked her style. Why are you asking?
@@CaptainCollins Ah, I see. I know the "evolve to crab" meme from this video: th-cam.com/video/wvfR3XLXPvw/w-d-xo.html It inspired the meme "return to monke or evolve to crab", wich I saw in an MXR Plays video.
Where do you get the Moreya? Maybe I missed it in Mars? TBH I only like three S/M ships: Gladius, Moreya and Bolo. I might have to use a Bolo with escorts. At least it looks cool. :)
@@CaptainCollins GRATZI! I assume I need to find them and gain rep to buy them? If I am a HORRIBLE pilot, and cant dog fight for beans, is a Gunship a good player craft for me?
Do the meson stream works the same way as the boson lances Sharing the same cooler, so the more you have the longer all of them take to shoot again? If so I know what to put on the single gun slot of the cool looking corvette
Wait, where can you buy those Kuraokami ships? Aren't they yaki ships? The kuraokami is basically the Paranid Nemesis with some containers on top (visuals) + extra stats
It's possibly the best player ship in the game, because of its universal cargo :) You buy either the blueprints or the ship itself in Savage Spur at the Yaki wharf. If you do the Yaki quest line you will find it easily ;) Cheers
@@CaptainCollins can agree that it's one of the best player ships in the game, but was confused as to why it's categorized as a Terran ship (could also be that I didn't pay attention to something you may have mentioned) :)
re the ships, weapons, shields and engines somewhat balanced now in X4? In a sense that its not just one weapon or ship be strictly better the other ones, making the player only want to have and use a small selection of combinations. With simplistic balancing there is not much point in having that much variety.
Just when you think, the terran frigate should look a little different from all the other factions´frigates - the Falx comes along "hey look at me, i´m just the same again!".
had hopped that something like the Griffon, so a real drone carrier in the m class would be appearing. so in my opinion the stats are not better then my cobra. will see if it gets beter when i mod them(ingame)
What is the best configuration for the Jian?... Is the Mason stream MK2 worth it as the Jian gunship's main weapon?. Which turrets are better for the gunship the beam turrets, the bolt turrets, or a mix of the two?.
Well after the turrets had been buffed they're at least bearable now...and 6 of them with a good layout can still do some reliable damage. That said it SHOULD have been 8 or 2 front facing weapons instead of 1. It's just far too underpowerd like this. Teladi have 2 frontal and 4 turrets and are far tankier on the gunboat...and Terrans being beat by the Teladi seems to be...weird.
@@ingrimmschboindil1302 No need to be bitter. Just because it isn't the best of all ships does not mean it is useless. A lot of people will have a lot of fun using this ship and it is not useless. You get 6 turrets that will reliably do damage on their own without you having to waste time aiming at enemies. My Teladi gunboat with 4 shotgun turrets can easily take out S fighters without me having to manually aim that them. 6 will improve that, quite obviously. I only mentioned that reducing frontal turrets to 1 might just be a bit of a strong tradeoff for 2 extra turrets...but again, it's not useless!
@@davidneo3940 It is useless cause towers are useless. You need like 15 L plama beams to deal the damge of 1 main gun. Towers = useless. I dont have access to beta, or i would show the numbers here. And its no the ships itselfe, just towers on there own are useless in vanilla. No point arguing about that mr fanboy Note: how it the range on that shootgun turrets, i am sure you can just do nothing and kill all fighter within 3km range lol And no need to be sp serious, cause i am not. I will play it wirh Vro anyway so.
@@ingrimmschboindil1302 If you weren't so serious about the issue you wouldn't be so defensive about the matter. Fact is some people have fun with their gunboats/turrets. And they still get to do stuff....it is fine if you feel like they are useless to YOU. But don't turn it into a blanket statement trying to force your opinion on everyone as a universal truth. And yes, L turrets also have some very nice use. But you can still think that this is not for you in vanilla and just mod it. No harm done here. Also cut down the insults. It doesn't make your arguments look better...it does the contrary.
Notable for shredding shields: ARG M Ion Blaster Mk2 (speed, range, rate per s, dps hull, dps engine) 2496m/s 5km 2 1,676 dmg/sec 24 dmg/sec Balanced: TER M Proton Barrage Mk2 2880m/s 4km 3.79 428.2 dmg/sec 428.2 dmg/sec Shotgun effect: SPL M Tau Accelerator Mk2 3919m/s 3km 2.5 810 dmg/sec 810 dmg/sec Also Balanced but slower, more dps SPL M Neutron Gatling Mk2 1728m/s 4km 11 473 dmg/sec 473 dmg/sec Starting to get slow but crazy damage. I bet this overheats though - forums report this is useless but I dont understand why TEL M Muon Charger Mk2 1257m/s 4km 2 1,932 dmg/sec 1,932 dmg/sec
Well I played x4 foundations while ago, and it was fun for the most part, I just wish I had blueprints to build stations. I hated that I had to do piece by piece and not knowing if the station would function correctly or not. Cause it takes hours to build. Thinking of giving it a new run I guess if theres a new expansion coing. Im always a fan of humans and kinetic weaponry, So I liked the Autocannons and flak. Doesnt seem like any new kinetic weapons introduced. Kinda wish the flak was a bit more powerful, but maybe theres a mod that increases that by now.
I'm late but it is possible to save blueprints of stations you have already built. Makes it easy for trying to remember what worked and building with less hassle.
Meson doesn´t get the e spoken like our german i, it stays an e. Ah, you said it correctly the second time when you got to the weapons... english has such weird spelling... Nimcha has two shields, one down rear and one on top. Though you already had a shield in the upper slot, so it didn´t lit up. I only noticed because of the total shield strength, and then looked at the shopping list. Personally i would prefer if the Proton barrage turns either clockwise or counterclockwise depending on which side of the cockpit/ship it is mounted... to counter the torque...
Hi Captain, could you compare the Kuraokami with the Nemesis? I think the Moreya is the way better Pegasus. I miss the speed stats of the Frog. I see 2 shields at the Nimcha.
Everything looks great - the only issue, and this is a big one, is that the ships don’t really make sense in terms of speed and agility. You have corvettes going twice as fast as fighters with nearly identical agility and much higher toughness. This is a problem in the core game too and was something that was NOT an issue in x3.
@@shaunwilson3059 unfortunately they turn comparably to heavy fighters, and a larger hit box is countered by 4-5x the durability and turrets. Obviously they won’t be equal - but their isn’t actually a nice for fighters other than purely style. In X3, it was the exception to have maneuverable corvettes - in fact, there was one and it was still not as maneuverable as heavy fighters
I think those are Yaki ships, as it seems they are Paranid design enhanced with Xenon technology... If I’m not mistaken, between X3 and X Rebirth a Yaki clan, named Beryll, used Xenon tech.
Nice vid Capas usual ☺️👍 I just not agree the "lazy frog green colour" they gave to all terran ships... Btw no problem here for that... As a Split (Split foreveeeeer yaaarrrff) i will blow em all as i encounter them 😂😂😂😂
Are you at a terran wharf I noticed that alot of resources needed include hull parts and adv electronic or antimatter converter. Or is it just a ui bug.
So the question I always ask. Is the control scheme for this game still horrible with many keybinds locked from changing? I believe I recall you couldn’t remap your left/right mouse to be fire buttons. Been a long time since I touched this game I just recall the controls driving me crazy and the inability to remap them to my taste unacceptable.
@@CaptainCollins I just double checked. Unfortunately both mass driver and the boson lance, can only shot straight ahead. The aim cant be adjusted with mouse or auto aim. I sorry the original post said other two I was referring to mass driver and boson lance
@@CaptainCollins reporting capt! 2x Jian with TER beam M seems to be doing poorly against 1 xenon M and 5 xenon S. Destroyed rather quickly when swarmed and not having enough range to fight back. Should I change the weapons Capt?
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That Yaki modified Nemesis - Kuraokami looks like my new favourate smuggling ship. Love the look of it.
This Expansion has the best ship design so far in my opinion
Someone never played X3...
I missed Terrans so badly. Always loved their ships
Holy crap, check out the projectile speed on that pulse laser! It’s going to be a great weapon for mauling fighters.
Moreya is a VERY interesting design for Terran, everything about it seems to be a hybrid of Terran design at its core but then incorporating alien engineering. Really love that Egosoft actually introduced a ship like that as it has been a while since I've personally seen the idea of race hybridisation designs in the X series.... think the last time I saw a ship that was clearly a hybrid design between two races was in the original X:BTF.
That was awesome, so many interesting designs.
I want the Katana so bad.
same. elegant yet deadly as it should be.
Some of the small and medium ships look great, but a lot of the uglier ones make me wish they looked more like their counterparts from X3: Terran Conflict, like the scout for example.
I beg of you to do a new player walkthrough/tutorial at release, I bought this game at initial release and have always struggled with it. I have since then started playing the beta, and I'm starting to lock down the base mechanics and controls, but I would love to play this game with a helpful teacher like you. Enjoying the videos!
I do already have one for Version 3.30. It's still viable, even with the new ships and factions. But I plan on doing one with Terrans ;)
Just play a X3, bruh...
@@CaptainCollins awesome Ill check em out and I look forward to the new playthrough
I love that the katana returned
One thing to add regarding the Moreya Fighter is that it also has storage for Solid and Liquid. I'm not sure why Egosoft did that but I'd think there's reasoning behind it.
Kuraokami too, I guess it's because tgese are the only yaki ships they use so they are their transports 🤷♂️
I'm not impressed by scouts. They look more like Yaki/Paranid designs. I always imagined modernized rapier to be more like the Argon starting ship.
yeah, remind me a lot of the x3 pegasus. not a great design tbh
Just a note about the moreya, the encyclopedia says that its pretty much just modified paranid scouts and thats why it doesnt fit the terrain design
Everything looks great, other than the Paranid ship ripoff's, that sort of comes out as lazy to me.
The Yaki always used modified Paranid ships though...
I think I want a Kuraokami for the speed and weapons. I compared with nemesis, others and it's outclassing it. now to chose the weapons.. I think I agree with capt about proton
Sooo.. we have a new enemy faction (the Yaki are back?) and they seem to have modified perseus and nemesis with xenon tech?
Probably, they are straight up copies of the Paranid Ships
Remember the Valhalla? I do. I miss her.
I've recently bought the game and have been studying your videos for it. It really gives me the impression that, so long as the user interface is good enough, you can really build a Homeworld-like experience within this game, executing complex strategies with complex fleet compositions. Do you think the game as it is now allows for this already, or is the A.I. or interface just not suited for that level of RTS gameplay?
Look how they massacared my nemesis boi :-(
Hope there are A.T.F ships as well, as I really don't like most of these new designs, I like symmetrical ships so the new paranid clone designs are really not selling this dlc for me, hope the Vidar is in there somewhere.
ATF design are already incorporated into Terran faction. Syr and Asgard are typical ATF ships.
the scout is just "hey the xwing backwards is cool. but that is what they had in B5. we will put the cockpit way down lower."
Nice video! I wish they had more Solid-Projektile Weapons and Railguns, I dont like all the fuzzy pewpew.
Thank you!
Frog: Works for me well
Kopis: A bit strange, but good ship as well
Nimcha: Hopefully Yaki
Rapier: Damn, i remember this being an USC ship in X3, so the one above is one as well?..... Sigh.....
Takoba: Looks good, but it doesnt feel that much like a Terran ship. Maybe i need to see it in white.
Kukri: Cant be Terran. Terrans are symetrical.
Moreya: Never Terran. Never..... Gotta be Yaki.
Kalis: Yes. Yes. Yes. And yes.
Gladius: Gladius. Know that name as well. So..... why these wings? Nothing mounted there, not flying in an atmosphere..... Just taking space and asking for more collisions.
Baldric: Bought, no questions needed.
Bolo: ..... Whats that? Thats a typical alien ship design.....
Kuraokami: Reminds me of the heavy fighter of the Vasudans from FreeSpace 2. So.... alien.... sorry.....
Katana: ..... *TearsInTheEyes
Jian: The question is, what came first: The freighter, or the Gunboat? I hope Gunboat, because changing a freighter to a military ship rings a bad bell which tells me: The Terrans are in dire state, no money, resources, ideas and and and..... In short: They go downhill. Dont like that.
Faix: Hmm, these Frigates kind of look all the same
In X3 the USC ships were very simple. Could be boring, but they never looked bad. Were build to do their task, no to look good and i liked that.
The ATF ships had the feeling of massivnes and being majestic. Gods do i love these ships.
These Terran ships here in the oter hand mostly look.... fragile.... alien..... Have unnecessery long wings and other parts and kind of look too smooth. Did the military doctrine change that much? Do they look like they have superior technology and thus better fightes?.... No..... These S and M classes..... Only 3 ships really shine for me as Terran ships. The Katana, Baldric and the Kalis. The other ships arent bad, but they just dont feel Terran to me. Well, Frog can be a Terran ship too xD
yeah the green colors and aliasing hurt my eyes ^__^
To be honest, the Gladius, Rapier and Nincha wings always bothered me, altought, i always thought that it was meant to be operated both in space as in atmosphere.
The Takoba and Kahlis are segaris pioneer design, not Terran, moreya and kurowkami are Yaki designs.
Also the Jian doesn't seem much, but once you outfit with some split engines and turrets, you will see it as a great killing machine.
Looks like there are 2 shield slots for the Nimcha scout, you missed the top one 4:32
True :) that was the nervousness at the beginning
I was about to ask about the green color....good that we cleared that up ;)
Nice talk :P Have fun out there ;)
Mason stream is my kind of weapon, high damage and low cooling cycle. The reason is simple, for example ship with 3 weapon slots, put 2 ions as primary weapons and 1 mason for secondary.
In the first pass take down the enemy shield with ions in few shots then fire a mason once on his hull and kablamoooo, almost one hit kill (for ships under 6000 MW of hull) :P
Pretty damn good combination if you ask me, specially if you use ship with 4 or 5 weapon slots, you can even mix this setup with some barage or lasers, or even put more ions and mason as well (for easily taking down Medium corvetes/gunboats or even Large ships ^^).
Again example, take the ship with 5 slots, install 3 ions for shield damage and put 2 masons for hull, when you take down the shield (easy enough) of the enemy, just fire those 2 masons and do almost 10K hull damage to the ship (insta kill for mediums), but instead of having 3 ions, you can install only 2 and put just one missile/torpedo, just to be able to bombard the enemy until masons come back online (if you miss the shot ofc) :D
Pretty good stuff :D
X3 and X4 are the most beautiful games I have played.
Terran S Nimcha Scout looks like someone took a Babylon 5 Fighter and just strapped a crew berth compartment on the bottom. lol
And that Baldric core frame to me looks less Romulan and more inspired by the smaller Bentusi ship designs (From Homeworld, specifically the Bentusi Destroyer). Got the curved centre design with the two extended arms going frontward with the front of the ship being open following the curve of the arms.
Sorry to the talented Egosoft ship modelers you guys did an amazing job, but the Nimcha and Rapier look fugly. Asymmetry is one thing and I can enjoy asymmetric aesthetics, but what sort of space ship designer would just slap a cockpit in that position? This looks like they designed a ship and somehow forgot to add a cockpit until it's been way too late to rework the entire ship and then just slapped the cockpit to the bottom end of it and call it a day.
And it's not even something you could fluff away as some form of engineering culture because those two ships are such extreme outliers to the remainder of the terran ship designs (well, to be fair there's also the Moreya which sticks out like a sore thumb from the rest of the terran ships but althrough not quite to my personal liking it still looks like a spaceship and not dissimilar to other ship designs in X4).
The Rapier in particular ... like what the hell is that design? Why even have that odd hull shape? You don't need wings in non-atmostspheric spaceflight so all that mass is just useless. And I'm no aeronautical engineer, but those wings don't look like they'd do much good in atmostpheric flight and that giant-ass vertical hull/wing/whatever would in either case serve absolutely no purpose at best and drag down the performance at worst.
The rest of the ships look great but those two ... it's like they had to meet a minimum quota of wingspan for ship designs, did the other ships first only to figure out "oh no, we didn't put enough wings on the other ships, quick let's make two giant, convoluted wings, slap an engine, a gun and a cockpit on it so we can meet the quota!". Urgh, so ugly!
The rest look great. The Jian in particular looks amazing with that "why don't we take out the heavy storage compartments on the transport ship and just bolt lots of guns to it instead?" aesthetic.
I jumped back recently with COH. The Terran story seems to be really good so far, and their ships are so nice. I'm looking forward to getting a new one after I make some cash.
Cash is good... never been so broke in a X start with TER only :D
@@CaptainCollins Yeah the ship's seem really expensive.
Not only that... I feel like there are missing chances to get money in TER sectors. I can't pinpoint a single thing, but overall I'm missing opportunities.
I betray the Terrans and side with the Yaki, thing is, i already have basically all terran blueprints...
The terrans got really piss of with me, but the funny thing is that the ANT, TEL, PIO and ARG immediately side with me and start to fight back the Terrans too, pretty fun set the galaxy on fire while i make a power grab of all xenon sectors...
Also the VIG and HOP, really hate me, the VIG because i built a station that sells food in their sectors, and the HOP because they were my favorite favorite pirated faction, rip HOP, i miss their ships.
I really want to like the Terran ships and while I do like some of the bigger ones, none of their ships seem to have a consistent design language that you'd expect a faction to have. Most of them just look like they've been randomly thrown together from designs of all factions.
1) Can we talk about the (apparently new) sexy lighting effects? My behemoth fleet is about to be sparkling :D
2) The moreya has universal storage !?!?!
To 2) ... you'll see why once you play ;)
Do I need to do something special to build the Kuraokami corvette at 16:45? I searched everywhere in Earth's orbit and can't find a wharf. The wharf in Mars and Brennan's Triumph doesn't show me that ship as an option to purchase :/
It's not a "terran ship", maybe that helps ;)
Looks like we got some story spoilers with those Paranid hybrids lol
almost certain those are actually Yaki fighters, not terran, which used paranid hybrid ships back in X3
@@smooticus1691 hmm I never noticed the yaki were hybrids of Paranid in X3. Thanks for pointing that out. That said, I look forward to using that fighter
wasn't too bad ;)
@@CaptainCollins nah just enough to intrigue me
The Moreya and Kuraokami are VERY different compared to others. I feel like they might be for the new pirate factions?
Probably those are Yaki ships, they were Paranid reskins in X3 and in X3 TC/AP Yaki made experiments using Xenon technology, if I rememeber correctly... This will explain those red details on Moreya and Kuraokami.
99% certain they are Yaki, not Terran
That's awesome info! I started the game from X:R, so I had no idea. So what's Yaki? Are they the secret pirate faction the devs mentioned?
@@HendyVelarius basically yes, in X3 there were normal pirates and then special pirate faction Yaki who flew different ships and had their own sectors and bases.
@@HendyVelarius I think you heard the Beryll name while playing X Rebirth main plot: that's a Yaki clan, but I don't think they have unique ship designs in the game...
I like terran ships! great presentation!
Thank you :)
Gotta say, I’m not blown away by any of these designs. Huge inexplicable speed differences, lacking firing arcs, all or nothing shields/weapons balance, the fighters appear to be better scouts than the scouts. Those new weapons look bland and the meson thing seems unuseable. Among the heavy and light fighters there is a clear winner, with the other one being way too slow for its limited shield strength. Slow speed and limited shields is the worst possible combination (see quasar/pulsar) and I don’t understand why Egosoft keeps balancing ships like that. They always perform like ass in fleet battles. It would be nice to see more subtle balancing, instead of just doubling/halving the amount of hardpoints/stats.
i do like that katana. i always like the look of it.
Slower?
the pulse laser projectile is 3x faster than proton barrage. but still proton barrage is probably better if you aim ahead
meson stream can be nice to take out fighters in one shot. but using mixed speed weapons on the same ship is problematic. I'd gather that a large force equiped with meson stream would devastate any fleet and hit and run tactics would be advantageous.
still weighing my options
Split Neutron Gatling (M) : has higher dps than proton, ALOT more rate but slower 1728m/s 4km 11 473 dmg/sec
straight manticore and condor rips and I love it.
Hmm can't put Proton Barrage on my Nemesis only Pulse Lasers. Don't have the option.
14:24 Ah yes, evolve to crab.
You're watching ShoeOnHead? :D
@@CaptainCollins Strange question, but no, I don't watch her videos regularly. I have seen a couple of her videos last year, and I liked her style.
Why are you asking?
I saw a video from her just hours before you mentioned "evolving to crab" where she had that a one topic.
@@CaptainCollins Ah, I see. I know the "evolve to crab" meme from this video:
th-cam.com/video/wvfR3XLXPvw/w-d-xo.html
It inspired the meme "return to monke or evolve to crab", wich I saw in an MXR Plays video.
Man... i wish there was more balistics...
underrated game, underrated dlc. (underrated video :)
Thanks for the video.
Awesome, I wish you talked price though. I can’t even see it because it’s under your logo!
Love the green would be completely perfect if it was matt finished 💚
oh yeah.... ;)
Where do you get the Moreya? Maybe I missed it in Mars?
TBH I only like three S/M ships: Gladius, Moreya and Bolo. I might have to use a Bolo with escorts. At least it looks cool. :)
The Moreya is a pirate (Yaki) ship, which you can get from them ;)
@@CaptainCollins GRATZI! I assume I need to find them and gain rep to buy them? If I am a HORRIBLE pilot, and cant dog fight for beans, is a Gunship a good player craft for me?
Do the meson stream works the same way as the boson lances Sharing the same cooler, so the more you have the longer all of them take to shoot again? If so I know what to put on the single gun slot of the cool looking corvette
Wait, where can you buy those Kuraokami ships? Aren't they yaki ships?
The kuraokami is basically the Paranid Nemesis with some containers on top (visuals) + extra stats
It's possibly the best player ship in the game, because of its universal cargo :) You buy either the blueprints or the ship itself in Savage Spur at the Yaki wharf. If you do the Yaki quest line you will find it easily ;) Cheers
@@CaptainCollins can agree that it's one of the best player ships in the game, but was confused as to why it's categorized as a Terran ship (could also be that I didn't pay attention to something you may have mentioned) :)
re the ships, weapons, shields and engines somewhat balanced now in X4? In a sense that its not just one weapon or ship be strictly better the other ones, making the player only want to have and use a small selection of combinations. With simplistic balancing there is not much point in having that much variety.
Just when you think, the terran frigate should look a little different from all the other factions´frigates - the Falx comes along "hey look at me, i´m just the same again!".
what music is this at the start of the clip .
i really liked it
That song is from the youtube library. It's called "Saving the world" from "Aaron Kenny"
had hopped that something like the Griffon, so a real drone carrier in the m class would be appearing. so in my opinion the stats are not better then my cobra. will see if it gets beter when i mod them(ingame)
What is the best configuration for the Jian?...
Is the Mason stream MK2 worth it as the Jian gunship's main weapon?.
Which turrets are better for the gunship the beam turrets, the bolt turrets, or a mix of the two?.
Oh its a Nemesis lol 🤣🤣
And a Korba lol give me a break
The Gunboat is beautiful, quite useless with the vanilla towerstrenght but perfect in VRO
Well after the turrets had been buffed they're at least bearable now...and 6 of them with a good layout can still do some reliable damage.
That said it SHOULD have been 8 or 2 front facing weapons instead of 1. It's just far too underpowerd like this. Teladi have 2 frontal and 4 turrets and are far tankier on the gunboat...and Terrans being beat by the Teladi seems to be...weird.
@@davidneo3940 a little bit less useless is still useless. The damage numbers in the Beta are still low, so i dont get your point there.
@@ingrimmschboindil1302 No need to be bitter. Just because it isn't the best of all ships does not mean it is useless.
A lot of people will have a lot of fun using this ship and it is not useless.
You get 6 turrets that will reliably do damage on their own without you having to waste time aiming at enemies.
My Teladi gunboat with 4 shotgun turrets can easily take out S fighters without me having to manually aim that them.
6 will improve that, quite obviously.
I only mentioned that reducing frontal turrets to 1 might just be a bit of a strong tradeoff for 2 extra turrets...but again, it's not useless!
@@davidneo3940 It is useless cause towers are useless. You need like 15 L plama beams to deal the damge of 1 main gun. Towers = useless.
I dont have access to beta, or i would show the numbers here.
And its no the ships itselfe, just towers on there own are useless in vanilla.
No point arguing about that mr fanboy
Note: how it the range on that shootgun turrets, i am sure you can just do nothing and kill all fighter within 3km range lol
And no need to be sp serious, cause i am not. I will play it wirh Vro anyway so.
@@ingrimmschboindil1302 If you weren't so serious about the issue you wouldn't be so defensive about the matter.
Fact is some people have fun with their gunboats/turrets. And they still get to do stuff....it is fine if you feel like they are useless to YOU. But don't turn it into a blanket statement trying to force your opinion on everyone as a universal truth.
And yes, L turrets also have some very nice use. But you can still think that this is not for you in vanilla and just mod it. No harm done here.
Also cut down the insults. It doesn't make your arguments look better...it does the contrary.
Why didn't they just call it a Nemesis? It's literally the same hull... Which brings me to a second question. How did the Terrans get Paranid tech?
Look at their builder. . . .
what about our saved games and all the mods installed ?
Save games work. Mods are not supported officially, so there could be issues, but doesn't need to be the case with all of them.
How can you not recognise the Nemesis?? (i assume that, because you didnt comment)
If it's from X3: never played it :O
Notable for shredding shields:
ARG M Ion Blaster Mk2 (speed, range, rate per s, dps hull, dps engine)
2496m/s 5km 2 1,676 dmg/sec 24 dmg/sec
Balanced:
TER M Proton Barrage Mk2
2880m/s 4km 3.79 428.2 dmg/sec 428.2 dmg/sec
Shotgun effect:
SPL M Tau Accelerator Mk2
3919m/s 3km 2.5 810 dmg/sec 810 dmg/sec
Also Balanced but slower, more dps
SPL M Neutron Gatling Mk2
1728m/s 4km 11 473 dmg/sec 473 dmg/sec
Starting to get slow but crazy damage. I bet this overheats though - forums report this is useless but I dont understand why
TEL M Muon Charger Mk2
1257m/s 4km 2 1,932 dmg/sec 1,932 dmg/sec
I use the moreya on my raptor for its fighters and if you put split combat engines on it you can get up to 770 ms
Well I played x4 foundations while ago, and it was fun for the most part, I just wish I had blueprints to build stations. I hated that I had to do piece by piece and not knowing if the station would function correctly or not. Cause it takes hours to build.
Thinking of giving it a new run I guess if theres a new expansion coing. Im always a fan of humans and kinetic weaponry, So I liked the Autocannons and flak. Doesnt seem like any new kinetic weapons introduced. Kinda wish the flak was a bit more powerful, but maybe theres a mod that increases that by now.
Well, technically, the L Bolt is kinda "new". But it will definitely suit your needs ;)
I'm late but it is possible to save blueprints of stations you have already built. Makes it easy for trying to remember what worked and building with less hassle.
Meson doesn´t get the e spoken like our german i, it stays an e. Ah, you said it correctly the second time when you got to the weapons... english has such weird spelling...
Nimcha has two shields, one down rear and one on top. Though you already had a shield in the upper slot, so it didn´t lit up.
I only noticed because of the total shield strength, and then looked at the shopping list.
Personally i would prefer if the Proton barrage turns either clockwise or counterclockwise depending on which side of the cockpit/ship it is mounted... to counter the torque...
Hi Captain, could you compare the Kuraokami with the Nemesis?
I think the Moreya is the way better Pegasus.
I miss the speed stats of the Frog.
I see 2 shields at the Nimcha.
Mistakes were made with the first two ships :) But good for getting more comments ;) I can do that live next week
is it possible in the game to control the appearance of the mouse and not the buttons?
What exactly do you mean?
@@CaptainCollins F2-F3 buttons so as not to press buttons 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, +, -
you can do it like that with a mouse ?
Everything looks great - the only issue, and this is a big one, is that the ships don’t really make sense in terms of speed and agility. You have corvettes going twice as fast as fighters with nearly identical agility and much higher toughness. This is a problem in the core game too and was something that was NOT an issue in x3.
corvettes have larger hitbox and slower turning(approx half), that's their weakness compared to smaller fighters
@@shaunwilson3059 unfortunately they turn comparably to heavy fighters, and a larger hit box is countered by 4-5x the durability and turrets. Obviously they won’t be equal - but their isn’t actually a nice for fighters other than purely style.
In X3, it was the exception to have maneuverable corvettes - in fact, there was one and it was still not as maneuverable as heavy fighters
Captain Collins? Right I'm not being a smart ass here but, well, your Irish accent leaves a lot to be desired!
Learned about that recently... no connection there
Whats with the paranid looking ships, is there a lore reason for this?
I think those are Yaki ships, as it seems they are Paranid design enhanced with Xenon technology... If I’m not mistaken, between X3 and X Rebirth a Yaki clan, named Beryll, used Xenon tech.
Yes, it's Yaki, Beryll is part of it and located in albion in x3ap and xr, so Beryll still isolated in xr network.
As far as tweaking: Argon Travel is best travel speed, Paranid is the best combat speed/
Yes, I got a video about that if you need more details ;)
Anyone else think there should be, in the custom game creator, another filter for race?
Can you land on planets?
No
Nice vid Capas usual ☺️👍
I just not agree the "lazy frog green colour" they gave to all terran ships...
Btw no problem here for that... As a Split (Split foreveeeeer yaaarrrff) i will blow em all as i encounter them 😂😂😂😂
The problem here is... I gave that color :D You will be able to see the new ships in a shiny terran design ;)
Are you at a terran wharf I noticed that alot of resources needed include hull parts and adv electronic or antimatter converter. Or is it just a ui bug.
It's just because I have unlocked all the things in the game at once. If you start at terran space, you will get the right materials.
17:03 are they attempting to bring back the hyperion docks on this terran vessel? Not that I can see from the stats.
What time stamp does he discuss weapons?
Can't say i like the Terran ship designs, in X3 terran ships were way better looking
So I’ve touched X couple times through the years including the first one I’m curious does it have more of a established involved campaign now
There are independent story lines that you can follow and finish whenever you feel like to do so, but not a classic campaign.
how did you get these? they are not in-game
It's a kind of magic :)
@@CaptainCollins you are my magic
...and he sacrificed a goat. (Well, a picture of a goat.) ;)
isn't there a second shield gen on top of that first scout?
yes... mistakes were made :)
can you mix and match weapons, or is it all one type ? Cause seems each group/ship would be specialized.
You can put every weapon you like in every single spot. You can mix like you want.
So the question I always ask. Is the control scheme for this game still horrible with many keybinds locked from changing? I believe I recall you couldn’t remap your left/right mouse to be fire buttons. Been a long time since I touched this game I just recall the controls driving me crazy and the inability to remap them to my taste unacceptable.
why do terrans have like modified paranid ship (moreya and kurakami)?
Maybe something weird is going on with some Terrans ;)
@@CaptainCollins i see something maybe in the story , i guess i got spoiled lol
I guess you got excited :P
For kicks, do the old bolt guns rotate too?
They fixed it, I believe in a beta patch
What controller/gamepad are you using?
Xbox One Controller
Do meson steam auto aim, or is it like the other 2 only able to shoot ahead?
They are gimbaled, all of them, they should aim
@@CaptainCollins I just double checked. Unfortunately both mass driver and the boson lance, can only shot straight ahead. The aim cant be adjusted with mouse or auto aim. I sorry the original post said other two I was referring to mass driver and boson lance
Oh okay! Yeah, so just straight forward sniper
What do you think is the best M class warship capt? Thanks
Hasn't changed, I still think the Cobra is the best atm. The falx comes near, but the Cobra seems more versatile.
@@CaptainCollins whaddya think about jian capt? Is it viable for early terran mission? I kinda love using turret rather than front facing cannon XD
If you like to be a bit more passive, sure :) I really like the design, but I would take it AI controlled.
@@CaptainCollins reporting capt! 2x Jian with TER beam M seems to be doing poorly against 1 xenon M and 5 xenon S. Destroyed rather quickly when swarmed and not having enough range to fight back. Should I change the weapons Capt?
I prefer the X3 designs 😏
no offens mend by it CC butt u pronounced Rapier wrong, its said like the sword Rapier
I struggle sometimes since Wnglish is not my native language but my third ;) will get better 💪
well for the most part looks like ill be replacing most of my current fleet. but not a fan of the clearly paranid ships
You won't be able to just buy them ;)
Can I have the Terran ships from X3TC please? The X4 Terran ships are horrible.
gotta say the falx look a bit like a short and chonky anaconda from elite
Why the graphic of your game looks better. I'm running at Max setting with 3080ti
Is there a Terran start.
Two! ;)
S&M huh?
;)
NImcha 2 S shields not 1 my dude ;)
Got me there ;)
18:19 aggressive?!???? this thing looks tame.
Check Minmatar ships, those are savage
why are they so expensive tho >.
3 different weapons is a bit...underwhelming :/
Why are all the frigates so ugly in X4 lol
Even with all these new ships,the game still lacks the fun of X3,
Not a fan of the terran small ships, could of been a whole lot better.