A very fair and balanced review. You did a great job of covering all of the pros and cons. As a former Alfa owner, I can't think of anything you missed. I will add, however, that the dealer network is very hit-or-miss. Some are great, while others are terrible. There aren't many in the US, either. Finally, I had problems with finding a shop to even do routine maintenance, such as oil and brake fluid changes.
We recently bought my wife a new Guilia Veloce and I really want a Stelvio for myself but the lack of dealer support is super concerning. We already live over an hour from the closest ones. That is really making me think I don't want 2 Alfa cars just incase.
@@darksideemt The poor dealer service caused me to sell my Guilia. If your dealer is good, then no prob. However, Alfa dealers are still going out of business in some areas. It depends on if you want to take that risk.
@@darrell9616 Closest ones to me are a little over an hour away and with the cities they are in (Austin or DFW) I don't think they are going anywhere but just not sure I want both of our cars to be Alfas due to that. I've wanted a M240i since the new model came out so really thinking I'm going that route for me but I also really want a fun SUV
We got my wife a new Guilia Veloce about 6 months ago and we love it. I have owned several sports cars over the past few years, pretty much all the v8 american made cars, and the Guilia is one of if not the most fun to drive car we have had. I have wanted a Stelvio for myself as daily for myself ever since. I am hesitant only due to lack of dealer access and it seems to be getting worse in some areas. I really can't decide if I want this or a new M240i. Great review Matt and really wish more YT car guys would review Alfa more and get the word out of how nice they really are, especially for the price you can get them.
I got a 23 Stelvio Veloce for my wife and your review is spot on. It's a great SUV. i was able to get an awesome deal on a 2023 Veloce. Too bad the market doesn't seem to care for it.
Great review as always! I have a Stelvio Ti Sport in Misano Blue like this, it’s my daily and I absolutely love it. I’ve gotten a 5.2 0-60 on my Dragy in Dynamic mode. Crazy to think that’s what an original Honda S2000 did. I’m fortunate that I have a very good dealership in my city. I also bought an extended mopar max care warranty because, well, it’s an Alfa. But it’s the perfect daily SUV for midwesterners that deal with winters and snow and ice.
@@mikeolson7557 in light snow it does ok. Im not sure about the new models, my year (2019) doesn’t have an AWD lock ability, so it’s always RWD until it detects wheel slippage and sends power to the front. I really didn’t drive it through very thick snow, my guess is it wouldn’t do as well as other vehicles
Always great honest reviews from you. I don’t know why I didn’t sub your channel already but have now! 👍🏼 We are looking at downsizing to one vehicle so are weighing up our options, it’s tough because I want sporty but my wife wants quiet silky smooth luxury 🤦🏻Does such a vehicle exist? 🤷♂️
Haha wow, i know exactly where you're driving in this video. I actually drive up the road you're driving on when you're talking about the handling about once a week just for fun!
I was ready to start dreaming about buying one when suddenly I remembered that the one dealership we did have closed up shop about one year ago or longer. That said, the Stelvio suits you, Matt, maybe you could get one. 😊
It's a pretty interesting vehicle, thanks for the detailed review. The wheels remind me of something that was available on the Taurus SHO from a few years back
Great review. After having wireless CarPlay/Android Auto in my Mach-E I can never go back to wired. In vehicles at these prices it's inexcusable to not have it wireless. Also, I live in CA where front plates are required but I have never once seen an Alfa with the front plate on because of that front end design...and I don't blame people, it would look so bad with a front US plate on.
The cargo space is the same as in a X3i, X4, Merc GLC Coupe, which means more than a Q5 Sportsback, Macan or Volvo XC60. ...But yes, 4% less than the boxy versions of the Q5, X3, Merc GLC. The Jaguar F-Pace is a clear winner in this category.
Yeah, I own the Stelvio and the cargo space is comparable to most competitors. The thing with cargo space is that each manufacturer has different ways of measuring it so you can't just compare manufacturer figures. The GV70 has a higher capacity on paper but the trunk has got to be one of the smallest ones in the segment.
I have always wanted a stelvio or guilia. Unfortunately up to this point it just hasn't worked out for one reason or another. I will say for over 60k they should have maybe slightly up tuned the 4 cylinder. Its had that 280ish HP since the beginning. I think a middle engine choice or power choice would be great between the base and the quadrofolio. This would have been a good trim level to have rolled that out with. Love the reviews Matt keep it up!
This car is overpriced at over 60K IMO. That's base BMW X3 M40i money. This car should top out no more than 58K IMO given what's available with the competition.
@@darrell9616 This car costs the same or less than its top competitors with the same level of equipment. ...and in reality, they usually offer better discounts, because they're the underdog in terms of sales.
@@MattMaranMotoring Oh wow, that's rare to see carbon fiber parts be standard on any trim in fact. More carbon fiber than a BMW M3 Competition without the carbon fiber package🤣
Something most people don't know is that all Stelvio have carbon fiber transmission shaft. ...that's because it's there for weight saving, not for the good looks. 😊
The ownership experience is of course the best part. My 'Veloce' is almost two years old and still brings me a smile every single day I drive it. It's a sweet, quiet and comfortable drive that can be transformed into a very jumpy and fast agile car when in Dynamic drive mode especially if we select manual gears.
You can get a 22 Veloce for like $45k with low mileage. I believe if you are comparing a Macan S you would have to find a QV used which would be the same price and it would blow a Macan S away. Macan S has always been one of my obtainable dream cars but after getting my wife a Guilia a few months ago I would definitely get a Stelvio QV over the Macan S
@@darksideemt It depends on what you're looking for. Not everyone needs the absolute speed of the QV. The lack of features and tech in the QV can be a hard sell in the luxury space, especially compared to the Porsche.
@@darrell9616 totally get it and pretty much agree. Though if I'm shopping that segment then I'll sacrifice a little tech for a better handling and faster ride (according to reviews I've read)
I know this is the common brand perception for Alfa, but if you look at the owner forums, they're actually pretty reliable as far as European brands go.
What Matt said. Do a little research and realize that a lot of those 'issues' is utter nonsense. Believe it or not, a lot of people offer comments on the internet about something they know nothing about.
@@darrell9616 last time I checked JD Power it was one of the lowest, so I have. Maybe it's gotten better in 23, but no way I'd buy one over other brands
@@DarkXenoGaming That's fair. I tend to check more than one source for info before making a purchase. I won't refute their data, but numbers can be manipulated to tell any story, regardless of topic or industry.
I see so many lies on these cars Almost like the guy making the video asks people to give them ratings A coverup it is I have one in Winnipeg The dealer takes 5 months to get parts And the car is brand new and broke down twice in 4 days Horrible car the worst I ever had MONEY PIT CAR BOTTOM OF THE LINE In CARS JUNK
Are you kidding ?? those are classic Alfa .. I had the same style 30 years ago on my Alfa sud Ti !!!! ( I think you may have to look it up ) as your probably not old enough ?
A very fair and balanced review. You did a great job of covering all of the pros and cons. As a former Alfa owner, I can't think of anything you missed. I will add, however, that the dealer network is very hit-or-miss. Some are great, while others are terrible. There aren't many in the US, either. Finally, I had problems with finding a shop to even do routine maintenance, such as oil and brake fluid changes.
Thanks Darrell! Yeah it’s too bad they weren’t able to expand the dealer network more.
We recently bought my wife a new Guilia Veloce and I really want a Stelvio for myself but the lack of dealer support is super concerning. We already live over an hour from the closest ones. That is really making me think I don't want 2 Alfa cars just incase.
@@darksideemt The poor dealer service caused me to sell my Guilia. If your dealer is good, then no prob. However, Alfa dealers are still going out of business in some areas. It depends on if you want to take that risk.
@@darrell9616 Closest ones to me are a little over an hour away and with the cities they are in (Austin or DFW) I don't think they are going anywhere but just not sure I want both of our cars to be Alfas due to that. I've wanted a M240i since the new model came out so really thinking I'm going that route for me but I also really want a fun SUV
@@darksideemt I hear you. I have my eye on the new 240i as well. It's a hard choice when you can only pick one.
We got my wife a new Guilia Veloce about 6 months ago and we love it. I have owned several sports cars over the past few years, pretty much all the v8 american made cars, and the Guilia is one of if not the most fun to drive car we have had. I have wanted a Stelvio for myself as daily for myself ever since. I am hesitant only due to lack of dealer access and it seems to be getting worse in some areas. I really can't decide if I want this or a new M240i. Great review Matt and really wish more YT car guys would review Alfa more and get the word out of how nice they really are, especially for the price you can get them.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Giulia! Good luck deciding what you wanna get!
Alfa Romeo truly does have some beautiful vehicles inside and out. I'd love to get a Guilia one of these days.
I got a 23 Stelvio Veloce for my wife and your review is spot on. It's a great SUV. i was able to get an awesome deal on a 2023 Veloce. Too bad the market doesn't seem to care for it.
The infotainment is laggy using the touch, but it's smooth and fast when using the big dial in the center console.
The refreshed headlights make it look much more appealing I agree 100% about the lease vs. buy portion too
always fair and honest reviews, and seems youre a real enthusiast yourself. cheers.
Thanks Albert!
Great review as always! I have a Stelvio Ti Sport in Misano Blue like this, it’s my daily and I absolutely love it. I’ve gotten a 5.2 0-60 on my Dragy in Dynamic mode. Crazy to think that’s what an original Honda S2000 did. I’m fortunate that I have a very good dealership in my city. I also bought an extended mopar max care warranty because, well, it’s an Alfa. But it’s the perfect daily SUV for midwesterners that deal with winters and snow and ice.
How’s it drive in the snow? I’m in Minnesota and am very interested in getting into one for my next lease.
@@mikeolson7557 in light snow it does ok. Im not sure about the new models, my year (2019) doesn’t have an AWD lock ability, so it’s always RWD until it detects wheel slippage and sends power to the front. I really didn’t drive it through very thick snow, my guess is it wouldn’t do as well as other vehicles
Maybe punching it causes the washer fluid to slosh away from the sensor in the tank? Italian car charm!
Could be! Yeah thankfully this charm is harmless haha!
All in all, very nice and precise review of the Stelvio. Very good job! 🙂👍
awesome review - love to see your take on these niche cars!
Thanks Steve!
Most cars with smaller paddle shifters is because they have them fixed to the steering wheel. Column mounted are usually bigger.
Always great honest reviews from you. I don’t know why I didn’t sub your channel already but have now! 👍🏼 We are looking at downsizing to one vehicle so are weighing up our options, it’s tough because I want sporty but my wife wants quiet silky smooth luxury 🤦🏻Does such a vehicle exist? 🤷♂️
Great review....he"gets" what makes these car so good
With the car seat in the back?? This guy fuckin gets it.
Haha wow, i know exactly where you're driving in this video. I actually drive up the road you're driving on when you're talking about the handling about once a week just for fun!
I was ready to start dreaming about buying one when suddenly I remembered that the one dealership we did have closed up shop about one year ago or longer. That said, the Stelvio suits you, Matt, maybe you could get one. 😊
It's a pretty interesting vehicle, thanks for the detailed review. The wheels remind me of something that was available on the Taurus SHO from a few years back
Thanks for watching!
Still my fav company
Love this thing. Wish it was a bit cheaper tho like RDX A-Spec money.
Good video… very well balanced with the pros and cons!
Excellent Review!
...amongst the few basic climate controls, we have heated seats (also available in the back seats) and heated steering wheel.
Great review. After having wireless CarPlay/Android Auto in my Mach-E I can never go back to wired. In vehicles at these prices it's inexcusable to not have it wireless. Also, I live in CA where front plates are required but I have never once seen an Alfa with the front plate on because of that front end design...and I don't blame people, it would look so bad with a front US plate on.
Hi Matt, I am seriously wishing for the Dark Horse Stang, what is your thoughts when could be the last model year?
The cargo space is the same as in a X3i, X4, Merc GLC Coupe, which means more than a Q5 Sportsback, Macan or Volvo XC60. ...But yes, 4% less than the boxy versions of the Q5, X3, Merc GLC. The Jaguar F-Pace is a clear winner in this category.
Yeah, I own the Stelvio and the cargo space is comparable to most competitors. The thing with cargo space is that each manufacturer has different ways of measuring it so you can't just compare manufacturer figures. The GV70 has a higher capacity on paper but the trunk has got to be one of the smallest ones in the segment.
Thanks for posting
Thanks for watching!
I have always wanted a stelvio or guilia. Unfortunately up to this point it just hasn't worked out for one reason or another.
I will say for over 60k they should have maybe slightly up tuned the 4 cylinder. Its had that 280ish HP since the beginning. I think a middle engine choice or power choice would be great between the base and the quadrofolio. This would have been a good trim level to have rolled that out with. Love the reviews Matt keep it up!
EDIT** no idea Matt mentioned this. Commented to soon lol
Thanks for watching! I’ve always wanted one too haha.
This car is overpriced at over 60K IMO. That's base BMW X3 M40i money. This car should top out no more than 58K IMO given what's available with the competition.
@@darrell9616 This car costs the same or less than its top competitors with the same level of equipment. ...and in reality, they usually offer better discounts, because they're the underdog in terms of sales.
@@miks564 That isn't true, at least when I last priced it and the competition. Check again.
Any thoughts on how this compares to base Macan?
Is the carbon fiber standard in the trim level or an options package?
It’s standard on the Estrema.
@@MattMaranMotoring Oh wow, that's rare to see carbon fiber parts be standard on any trim in fact. More carbon fiber than a BMW M3 Competition without the carbon fiber package🤣
Something most people don't know is that all Stelvio have carbon fiber transmission shaft. ...that's because it's there for weight saving, not for the good looks.
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@@miks564 That is impressive!
Matt likes the Stelvio.🤣🤣👍👍
...level 2 autonomous driving is also available. EDIT: I have it on my 2021 Veloce.
I can’t get over the styling.
Nice looking vehicle but not sure if I'd love the ownership experience.
The ownership experience is of course the best part. My 'Veloce' is almost two years old and still brings me a smile every single day I drive it. It's a sweet, quiet and comfortable drive that can be transformed into a very jumpy and fast agile car when in Dynamic drive mode especially if we select manual gears.
I don't know if I wanna drive a crossover tbh. I wish they had a hatchback.
Matt would you take a couple year old Stevio over a older Macan S ? as they are roughly the same price
I have never driven a Macan unfortunately so I can't say.
@@MattMaranMotoring I actually find that very suprising ;(
You can get a 22 Veloce for like $45k with low mileage. I believe if you are comparing a Macan S you would have to find a QV used which would be the same price and it would blow a Macan S away. Macan S has always been one of my obtainable dream cars but after getting my wife a Guilia a few months ago I would definitely get a Stelvio QV over the Macan S
@@darksideemt It depends on what you're looking for. Not everyone needs the absolute speed of the QV. The lack of features and tech in the QV can be a hard sell in the luxury space, especially compared to the Porsche.
@@darrell9616 totally get it and pretty much agree. Though if I'm shopping that segment then I'll sacrifice a little tech for a better handling and faster ride (according to reviews I've read)
2023 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Q4 Estrema!
I wonder what the chances are for a Dodge Stelvio Estrema for $15k less...
Ain't gonna happen. Dodge has already stolen enough Alfa technology in the Hornet,
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Still trying to figure out why anyone would by an Alfa with all the issues they have.
I know this is the common brand perception for Alfa, but if you look at the owner forums, they're actually pretty reliable as far as European brands go.
@@MattMaranMotoring Stellantis owns them correct?
What Matt said. Do a little research and realize that a lot of those 'issues' is utter nonsense. Believe it or not, a lot of people offer comments on the internet about something they know nothing about.
@@darrell9616 last time I checked JD Power it was one of the lowest, so I have. Maybe it's gotten better in 23, but no way I'd buy one over other brands
@@DarkXenoGaming That's fair. I tend to check more than one source for info before making a purchase. I won't refute their data, but numbers can be manipulated to tell any story, regardless of topic or industry.
I'll take an RDX.
And you can have it.
@@rlsedition lolll. I think Rdx looks good, but it’s a little luxury turd essentially
It's a shame that Stelantis chooses not to bring Peugeot over because of Alpha.
You talk way too fast.
I see so many lies on these cars
Almost like the guy making the video asks people to give them ratings
A coverup it is
I have one in Winnipeg
The dealer takes 5 months to get parts
And the car is brand new and broke down twice in 4 days
Horrible car the worst I ever had
MONEY PIT CAR BOTTOM OF THE LINE In CARS JUNK
More like "still your mechanic's choice 💰 lol"
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Things is, they are actually reliable but you guys dont know where these issues come from. Its mostly the battery
@@dylanoppeneer2354 The battery was an issue on 2017-2019 models.
just talking shit and never owned one. Only listening to gossip from others!
At 70k on mine and it's been great. I've only replaced the battery and one door lock under warranty.
Just has Nasty looking wheels.. absolutely terrible choices on the Stelvio
Are you kidding ?? those are classic Alfa .. I had the same style 30 years ago on my Alfa sud Ti !!!! ( I think you may have to look it up ) as your probably not old enough ?
@@scottleech9571 no a fan of the circles
@@scottleech9571 im 51
@@scottleech9571 The Estrema uses 21" wheels and the shape is different. The 20's look significantly better.
Yeah, those are awkward. Then again, the whole blacked out wheel trend is going to look outdated in a few years.