Yeah i dont understand buying a disc having not seen the movie. There are plenty of popular movies ive seen that I havent liked. It would need to be something I can watch over and over again.
One way I decided to save $$ is I only stick with Blu-ray’s and dvds. 4ks are too expensive if I’m going to continue to build my collection. I also hit up used shops and have got a lot of discs for a dollar or two. I mainly want to watch the movie or tv show so if the case is a little messed up I’m ok with that. I save lots of $$ this way. Own my own condo and have no debt so it’s working so far 😊
A wise move. I also don't get the 4K fascination many of our fellow cinema lovers have. Alas to each their own but special edition DVDs as well as the superior Blu-ray format, is all I'll ever need. Already invested in a 100" inch TV set, took it off of its factory settings & purchased a solid $198 buck soundbar. Sure it doesn't have Dolby Atmos on it but I don't give a shit about that one way or another. LOL I'm a happy cinema collector and I own over eighty of my favorite Horror, Thriller. Westerns and the '50s Golden-era of Hollywood with some from my fave filmmakers thrown in: Paul Thomas Anderson, Tarantino, Kubrick, mid-career Hitchcock, two from Orson Welles ect. I'm currently good without a 4K player.👍Much respect.
@@He_Loves_Horror Sounds like a sweet set up! We have to do what we can to be able to keep collecting in this economy. My collection is filled with all the TV shows I like now and as a kid plus all the movies from actors I like including Statham, Neeson, Whalberg to name a few plus Jackie Chan and numerous other martial arts films.
Watching movies over and over again is pointless after the 5th time! I find it ironic that guys like him are streaming on social media to promote physical media as the only real option. Physical media came from a time before social media and streaming has taken over the world.
I come from a generation where physical media didn't exist and most people only watched a movie one time and you used your memory to relive the films you love. Lol
as a normal collector..collect what u want and what u will watch again, if storage is full you can start to sell it again, there always a buyer..buy a secondhand is good too..no need to buy newest every purchase.
Man this something that really hit me recently. I’ve been buying movies on disc since the late 90s, replaced most of my DVDs with Blu-ray’s, and some on UHD. And… it got out of control. I think I had over 1,000 discs (which is paltry to some peoples collections) and I realized that it would take years to go through and rewatch my movies, even if I had stopped now. I knew I had to strip and curate my collection and stop buying every movie I thought was pretty good.
You will feel much better with yourself if you only buy movies you plan to rewatch or share with others during movie nights, etc. Likewise with video games: buy physical games if you intend on playing it. Buy to own content you like, don’t buy to collect. There’s a difference, and the repercussions increase throughout the years.
Ask yourself: "What movie/show can I see myself not wanting to be without should the world lose every copy? Something, no matter what, I will always enjoy." The little mermaid 2? No. The fox and the hound 1? Yes. The terminator original trilogy? Sure. The rest after that? I can do without.
You make a lot of good points, honestly. I think that it's a double-edged sword. There is always something to go after, but that also keeps you invested and looking forward to the next possible grab. For me, I just collect what I enjoy and want to watch. That's how I control myself and what I like. Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm trying!
I have close to 1,000 movies, but i wouldnt consider myself a "collector". Its not something i am proud of, per se. Its just something that happened over 2 decades. I personally think if you have a reason to buy a movie, you buy it. Whether its a movie you like, or a movie you have interest in seeing because you have some prior anticipation of seeing the movie (i.e. targeted purchase/something you didnt catch in theaters). But if you are buying just to "catch them all" to be like a pokemon master, or blindly buying just to have a giant wall/library, that is a bit over the top IMO. But i respect wanting to have an expansive library. Its something that doesnt need to have a pretentious aura about it based on size of collection. Sometimes more tasteful selection is better than size.
One aspect of physical I dislike is out print, when something is only available in the second hand market. Prices jump into the hundreds, I've bought so many series like this.
I used to have a massive collection of physical media. Then, I moved to a place with extremely high housing costs, and I simply couldn't justify dedicating an entire room to that stuff, so it had to go. Also, when the collection gets too large, organizing and accessing things gets difficult. I'm not much into movies, but I have a huge collection of music and a lot of video games. Everything is on my hard drive where I can easily access it, and the physical media that I have sits untouched in boxes. When I buy music now, I buy digital downloads. Of course, everything is backed up. I strongly recommending backing up physical media if you can. If a CD or DVD succumbs to rot, you still have the music or movie, and you can burn a new disc if you want. Records are a lot more durable as long as they are kept away from heat and you are careful not to scratch or break them. I kept a few shellac records, including some that date back to the 1890s that are still in great shape. Most records won't rot away, though U.S. Columbia 78s, which are a laminate construction, are less breakable than other 78s but sometimes the outer layer starts to peel off, especially if moisture gets into the interior. I still have a lot of books, but I don't like reading books from a screen, so physical media still rules there.
I am 63 I find i Now have Most of the Classic Movies and Series I wanted from the 70s and 80s and I have become much more choosy with recent content now.
Greetings from great Britain...I did the same...started out collecting Dr Who ( mainly Tom Baker as im 57 and he was my childhood Doctor)..then Hammer horror and amicus films .then UK carry On films...then some horror and banned in the UK for decades...cannibalholocaust...i spit onyourgrave... ..texas chainsaw massacre...drillerkiller...exorcist even was banned in the UK!!! In the 80s and 90s.."video nasties" ..then classic 60s 70s 80s early 90s films and TV show...from USA cheers fraiser..quincy....Rochford files...to British shows like dad's army...steptoe and son faulty towers..monty python..the sweeney....along the way I discovered companies like Arrow and others who do great stuff with so many extras...they can be expensive and I've picked up most of my dvds blu-ray and cds really really cheap win the last 10 years when people dumped all their physical stuff in favour of Netflix and Spotify.....of course with great channels like this the absolute bargains are drying up and limited editions are drying up ...but its a great hobby and the best thing is buy what you love and will be able to watch again....although I sometimes take a risk if the local charity shop is doing 5 dvds for £1...!!!..can't even buy a bag of chips ( French fries for you American pals..)for a quid these days ..lol
This is exactly what I've done. Spent a load of money over 2 yrs, got all the TV and movies I am interested in from the past, never need to pay for streaming now. In the long run will be worth every penny, it already is 🎉😊
I get overwhelmed by owning too many things. My collections are small but contain my favourite games, so I just have a small collection of PS2, PS4 and PS5 games, about 30 games in total. I will be able to play them all, and can take my time enjoying each of them.
As nice as the hobby may be, it also has its downsides. Collecting can quickly become an addiction and you often don't even notice it. Up until now, I've always managed well financially when it comes to my passion for film. But i must say, though, that 20-30 years ago I bought more films, but I hardly watched any. That went on for a few years until I decided that I couldn't go on like that and I started to really clear out everything that no longer interests me. Now I only buy things that I know I'll watch the film more often. We don't even want to start talking about the pricing policy because 30, 35, 40 for the standard 4K Bluray is a hell of a lot of money and you have to ask yourself whether it's even worth it anymore. There is a better alternative: buying used titles to save money. Nothing lasts forever, and that also applies to physical media, but as long as you take good care of your stuff, it should last a long time. Jamie you are incredibly likeable ❤
I think this is the difference between having a collection and having a library. I'm not so much a collector as somebody that is building up a library of basically everything that I might want to watch. Building a library to watch is a lot less expensive.
I used to do this, it's very much an addiction and the only thing giving value to any of it is that other people are also addicted to it. Your physical media will degrade and you will fall out of love with the titles you once loved as you age. There's also more media being created than a single person could possibly consume nowadays.... I'm OK with the digitized versions of the things I love. They take up hardly any space and I can delete the ones I don't want anymore. They will never degrade; only the things I store them on will degrade and I can transfer them before that happens. At the end of the day we're talking about digitized information stored on physical media. The only way to perpetually store analog media is to digitize it too. I'm old enough to have seen all these trends come and go. Oh, you're collecting vinyl now, as if that's not been done before? It's a hipster fad and little more. Low quality sound on an antiquated storage device. There's a very good reason it was replaced... Just don't get artificial demand mixed up with real world value or tomorrow your expensive collection will be worthless and you'll be sitting there wondering why that is. Once, people wanted these things, and eventually they won't.
Alas people can collect as they wish but I largely agree with ya. I have Hans Asperger's Syndrome. Love me some '80s and '90s action films before the mid '90s or so. As well as some retro Horror and a _LOT_ of comic book adaptations. Namely X-Men and Spider Man titles as I am entertained by X-Men. But indeed: I'm a cinema lover but I only have over eighty films on Blu Ray. I'm not gonna collect much more because I originally had over 300 titles. As many noted, it was a strange burden trying to pick out something to even watch! The same with music: I've got some film scores that I listen to plus Swing music and Smooth Jazz for relaxing. CDs only. Never understood the vinyl reemergence in fellow Western countries, but yeah to each their own. I got a shelf stereo system & that is enough for the time being. I'm getting back into collecting X-Men comic books in "lots" as well as the action figures as well as finally framing my theatrical posters. So I'll never own that many titles on physical media again. It just plain got to be an oddball hassle.
I only spend big on stuff I actually like a lot or have nostalgia for. I do however let myself spend more recklessly when things are cheap. For example, a charity shop near me sells Blu-rays for only $2 so I'll let myself buy movies that I don't know or am unsure if I will even watch because it's so cheap. For a while I was letting myself buy $5 Blu-rays on eBay, but it started adding up so I cut myself off from that route. One benefit of hunting for used copies locally is a lot of time you don't find anything. The first time I went to my local spot I found like 20 blu-rays so I bought them all. Next 10 times I went I bought maybe 3 or 4 blu-rays in total. Also hunting locally takes time so if you don't have that time or it feels kinda pointless then you end up not going and not buying. I haven't checked my local shop in a year so I went recently and they had 3 blu-rays I was not interested in so I decided I wasn't gonna go for a while because it felt like a waste of time.
I just suscribed to your channel, there is some collectors i watch that collection 1 movie but buy it 4 times cause of the different artwork. Some of the artwork is cool, but do they really need 4,5, or 6 of the same movie? I collect because i love watching movies, always have, always will.
I started collecting dvds a couple of months ago, no one wants them in Scotland anymore. I am planning to have a little cinema room at home & I also felt like I should physically own things. I buy from charity shops, the best deal I’m getting currently is 40 DVDS for £1 from a charity shop that is snowed under with them and 10 DVDs for £1 at another three stores. I have accumulated just over 1600 movies already not counting the tv box sets & in total this collection currently stands me into around £120 pounds. I’ve also begun collecting books, mostly they’re unread & I am paying £1 for ten from two different charity shops. I won’t lie there is an element of prepping behind my thinking on collecting this stuff but I also just can’t quite believe that this stuff should be so undesirable now that it’s reached this price level.
I would love to see ur collection, dvds are pretty cheap there, I don’t know if they sell dvds offline where I live (India) or even if they do I think they sell mostly Bollywood stuff, so I searched amazon and each dvd is like 400INR or 4euros. Pretty costly, I can get 4OTT platforms for a month with that price.
Films falling into oblivion is a part of life. Hundreds of thousands of animal species have disappeared, even before humans existed. Millions of paintings and books have been burned, 80% of silent films no longer exist. It's great to preserve films you love, but it doesn't make much sense to preserve films you don't care about just for the sake of preserving them... because you won't care about them in the future either, much less your children and future generations. Preserving a film that no one wants to see and no one will see, makes no sense.
I'm recently read over your posts. You make a lot of good, fair points. Indeed: What is the point of preserving silent-era filmmaking onto standard def DVD or now Blu-Ray? None of them would be super entertaining by today's standards, and even those that survive (such as the few of Lon Chaney Senior) are not interesting. If I were a fellow cinema lover, such as myself, I would pick a genre such as Action, collect those titles on Blu-Ray (unless the transfer is super bad; filled with DVNR issues) and get eighty movies or so. Then retire. Yes, spot on. I've also noticed that TH-camrs collect all of these boutique labels, which is fine; some of their releases interest me. But I wonder how many simply collect to do regular uploads? Some get six new titles a month (or even more) to show off on their vids. Sure, that is fine, but over the year that will add up to around over forty plus titles even ordered before Christmas time or their own personal birthday haul. So its gonna add up to Hoarder levels over time! Some people with all due respect need to look at their lives before they end up running out of space in their own modest four bedroom homes & end up on that Hoarders show...
you should buy only movies u know you are definently going to watch more than once.......buying a movie just to have it or having one u are never going to watch or watch again is a big waste of money and space,......take it from me....80 percent of the stuff i have i know im never going to watch or watch again just havent gotten around to getting rid of them
Here are a couple of films to watch for Halloween: The Monster Squad, The Shed, Warlock, Troll part 1, Sinister, V/H/S/Beyond, The Sixth Sense, Ghost Story, Ghoulies 2, Beetlejuice, Lore (2023), Abigail, Fear Street: Part One - 1994 from Netflix, Fear Street: Part Two - 1978, Fear Street: Part Three - 1666 from Netflix, Ghost Stories on Shudder, Sleepy Hollow, Trick R' Treat, Casper, Hocus Pocus, Under Wraps, Ghostbusters, Monster House, Night of the Demons, The Midnight Hour, The Forgotten One, ParaNorman, Waxwork part 1, Tales from the Hood, The Frighteners, Goosebumps, Creepshow, The Gate, Lady in White, Killer Party, Fright Night part 1, The Night Flier, The Lost Boys, Demons part 1, The Changeling, Poltergeist, The Mortuary Collection, Corpse Bride, Stake Land, Hellboy from Guillermo del Toro, Blade part 1, The Woman in Black, Crimson Peak, The Devil's Backbone, The Conjuring part 1, Evil Dead, Cabin in the Woods, Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight, House part 1, Tales from the Darkside: The Movie, Dog Soldiers, My Demon Lover and Pumpkinhead!!!
If you're buying something for your collection because you'd feel bad otherwise for not owning it, then you're missing the point of collecting I think. Collecting should only make you feel good, you shouldn't be feeling bad.
Are you collecting movies that you love or are you hoarding little plastic disk Is it ever enough ps And before the TH-cam craze, we never called it physical media. We called it collecting movies. I'm physical media to death with that term
If price is a factor, why are you buying UHD at about $40 instead of say $15 for DVD or $18 for BluRay, and that's using The Crow as an example, as of today 19 Oct 2024, at JB.
Collecting for me is about finding movies at a good price I never pay full price for blu rays. I was lucky when I started collecting blu rays 5 years ago as a lot of people started selling there collections in favour of Netflix and I found a second hand store that was selling second hand blu rays for £1 each every week when I went in there was hundreds of movie people had sold off so most of my collection was cheap and well worth having the blu ray. 4K is often overpriced but have still managed to grab most of my titles for super cheap second hand so collecting does not need to be an expensive hobby if you seek out the right deals and wait a while to own something you want you can easily do it on a budget. I picked up the last bond movie yesterday on standard blu ray with slipcover for £2 if I had bought it new 2 years ago it was £15, I personally get more enjoyment with my purchases when I get a deal and have never hd an issue with any disk I bought second hand. Cheers
It's an incredible waste of money since you don't have lifetimes to watch most of that stuff more than one time. If you are incredibly wealthy it's no problem but it's psychologically a bit weird. Its like your whole identity and worth as a person is based on what you consume. I would say take inspiration from what you love and create your own art or even movies. All that stuff takes up an enormous amount of space as well. I notice a lot of collectors are in terrible physical shape and are obese and diabetic or prediabetic. Put down the TV remote and go outside for a walk. And what about insurance? Can you insure all that stuff from floods, fire, etc?
I agree with some (again, some) of what you said. Personally I just collect the seminal classic film franchises that I dig (e.g. Back to the Future Trilogy, Spider-Man films, some '70s Thrillers; Cult Classics that I dig; Classic Westerns). I see a lot of "Man Cave Home Theater" tours that I dig on here since I'm a cinema lover. However, I only own over eighty titles. Gotta wonder how some of our fellow cinema lovers, despite it being a passion of mine, can view their over 900 more even more (!!) titles? Many show off book shelf of most of the boutique labels (Criterion Collection, Synapse, Scream Factory, Blue Underground, Arrow Video) and I wonder if many only collect because they dig Cult Classics as I sometimes do. Or if they're trying to impress others while maintaining their viewership? 🤔 Sure. It's their business; I'll respect 'em as a viewer. But It's like those video game collectors with most consoles released with over 200-plus titles for each one, rather cartridge based or discs. I wonder where in the Hell they personally find time to play all of 'em? While I want 'em to enjoy their hobbies, it seems like many of 'em have hoarding/obsessive compulsive issues. I mildly do & I can control mine, but I sort of feel sorry for others that can't do that. Seems like they're almost enslaved like to their addictions/hobbies and I feel bad for 'em. Alas it is their money at the end of their day...
actually I think Ive collected everything I wanted for now. Like I do still order a box set or a limited edition every couple of months or so. But honestly i could just stop and start watching from my collection for years to come, even though my collection is not that big. But with a little bit of streaming services on the side I’ll be fine.
I subbed man but disc rot is the last thing I’m worried about. Not worried about mold on tapes or off gassing on records or any of the things that require severe weathering compounded by years of bad storage!
@lp7399 backing up my collection is an end game goal. Blurays should last 25 - 100 years, so while I'm early in building my collection I don't believe spending money on backing up is worth it till I've collected a majority of what I want.
Im extremely selective with what i buy. It has to be a certified banger in my eyes fornme to get it and it has to be affordable. I dont think i paid more than $25 for any single movie even 25 is pushing it
Oh gosh man I’m driving right now and want so bad to reply to what you said about stores going out of business! I will come back to this comment later today to give my sixteen cents!!!
Alost horrded the first. I uad 50 inch dlp samsung and a 1000 Onkyp surround sound. I wanted to watch every movie in blu ray, but I was lucky I bought one crappy movie. The haunting of Connecticut. Stopped buying movies just to collect them. It's been 6 months, and I just watched a blood sport. I could understand the German words and navigate it just fine. lol It was great, and the atmos mix was done so well that I want to ditch my soundbar for 7.1.6 setup. Surround sound is where it's going to get expensive for me.😢
The dark side is people repeatedly using the term 'physical media collecting' when they clearly mean movie collecting 😁 At times they even compare it to collecting books, as if that's not physical media collecting in itself
physical media refers to books, vinyl, CD's, DVD's, Blu Rays, 4k, Laserdisc etc.... it makes sense that people use an umbrella term to refer to very similar types of collections/collectors. I've never heard anyone say "collecting physical media is like collecting books" in my life.
@@machiel5888 Umbrella term works fine at times, but it does get misuses quite a lot, even on this channel "physical media collecting" gets compared to other forms of physical media collecting quite a few times 😄 This is a useless pet peeve for sure, but it just sounds funny whenever the video lists "X things that all physical media collectors hate" and the second point is disc rot or what not
How about people recommending boutique DVD websites with crappie movies because their being given free DVD'S. cough cough Vinegar Syndrom and overpriced Aarow video.
I don't know about Arrow, but I haven't seen anyone get anything for free from Vinegar Syndrome before. I always leave room to be corrected. I think Vinegar Syndrome is a bit overrated and pricey (even during their many.....many sales).
I sold my collection off years ago for fantastic profits. I lost money on probably most of my purchases, but the rare and high value ones more than made up for it overall.
I've had disc rot on DVD with Kate and Leopold. Ended up buying the bluray of it which only has the directors cut.and not the theatrical cut which is only on DVD. May rebuy it on DVD again solely for the theatrical cut.
@@Jowurel Yeah I don't see people's fear about disc rot.. I have discs that are very old and have no sign of rot. Just keep them out of your attic and make sure your living space isn't a sauna and you'll be fine..
i always hate the following! let's say you have a movie on dvd. later there's a bluray and you upgrade it. sell it? best case scenario. but wait! half of the bonus material is missing -.- or audio tracks, commentary. main reason for my vhs collection: non of these assholes rerelease the open matte versions (not everything was pan & scan shit)
Hey Chief, with over 1k new movie release every year in movie theater & streaming. Who has time to rewatch movies so why waste Benjamin's on physical media 💰 Never fall in love with a movie, watch it, joy it & move on to your next movie 🎥 Life is too short & you can't take it with you Big Buddy 🍻
blu rays and 4k's are not expensive... try to collect 35mm movies plus 35mm capable projector...good luck. Most movies cost like ca. $1200 or even more
I don't understand people who has 1000 or more movies. It's imposible that you really love 1000 different movies. Just keep what you really like. 100 movies, maybe 300 movies... that's it. Same with Vinyl records. Collections with 3000 records... why? You're not a museum, curate your collection, keep albums that you want to listen at least 2 times a year, movies that you want to see at least every 3 years. If you feel that you will not want to see that movie again, sell it.
Agreed. For myself, I'm into cinema. So I'll top out my collection at around 100 soon and then I actually plan to retire from collecting movies on Blu-ray and standard def DVD. Alas what is the point, ya know? None of us can take it all with us to the afterlife. To me even collections of over 500-plus movies are kind of oddball & partially insane. Same with music. Let's be honest: Collect as much as you want. Much respect. But most music from English speaking nations has been shit for over three decades, so simply collect some of your fave soundtracks, compilations & a two large boxsets of CDs and be done with it. Having over 400 albums is insanity. Though I'm not the best person to ask as I'm also into 27X40" original theatrical posters to frame plus figures of my fave comic book (X-Men) still in their packagings. I'm only into so much cinema and especially limited on music as I have Asperger's Syndrome.
The idea of protecting films that are no longer available sounds noble. But it ends up being pretty silly to fill yourself with hundreds of unknown films that nobody cares about, especially that you don't even really like. It's great that you buy films that you love and that aren't available online. But becoming a museum of forgotten films is expensive, stressful and pointless. In any case, get together with other people and create a preservation organization. Don't do it alone.
Not necessarily. If you know how to restrain yourself from buying what you don’t need, and you know exactly the types of movies you want in your collection, then that’s not hoarding. Hoarding becomes where you just get things just to expand your collection for no reason or you get excited whenever a youtuber you follow is praising so many releases that have been handed freely to them. Just because it’s a cool release from Arrow Video or Scream Factory or whoever and you haven’t even seen the movie, doesn’t mean you have to get it. And most of those movies released by these boutique labels with special packaging are garbage movies. At that point, you’re not collecting movies, you’re collecting packaging of movies which most likely you don’t like. Now tell me that’s not hoarding.
@AlSumait Exactly. The likes or Mid Level Media are hoarders. Buying everything & watching a small percentage of it is absurd. Even worse is this double-dipping nonsense, what is even the point? These people have zero self control. It's also extremely selfish when you have a family, that extra cash could be spent a lot more beneficially to others.
150 Laserdiscs?? Man, that format is even worse than the first DVDs that were released. And lots of them have problems with playing (caused by disc rot). But anyways, this is a serious problem. Maybe it's something mentally controlling your obsession. Why aren't you going to the gym? It's good for your health, and you will stop thinking about collecting all the time.
Yes. See I do collect some Blu-Rays and standard definition DVDs that look cool. I dig Action and classic Horror that isn't too nerdish. But yeah man: Those modern day fellow Cinema lovers that are only _NOW_ getting into those dated/obsolete formats such as Laserdisc, cropped off fullscreen VHS tapes and even BetaMax for some leave me scratching my head. I mean collect what ya wish to. Much respect for your hobbies, but it is a strange new hobby in a sense. They were never good at holding much information onto one side, were always badly overpriced by $60 or more bucks. Not to mention as ya noted around 9% have major Lazer Rot issues. 🤔
Dark side is these youtubers buying stuff for content and not actually watching them
THIS ☝ Those kind of people are chameleons!
Yeah i dont understand buying a disc having not seen the movie. There are plenty of popular movies ive seen that I havent liked. It would need to be something I can watch over and over again.
I've seen this same thing on channels for other hobbies too.
Yeah at least I try to watch them. I only buy stuff that I know I could potentially watch over and over again.
@@Moltrosityif it’s cheap enough or you love that label it can be a really fun way to discover new movies o.O
One way I decided to save $$ is I only stick with Blu-ray’s and dvds. 4ks are too expensive if I’m going to continue to build my collection. I also hit up used shops and have got a lot of discs for a dollar or two. I mainly want to watch the movie or tv show so if the case is a little messed up I’m ok with that. I save lots of $$ this way. Own my own condo and have no debt so it’s working so far 😊
A wise move. I also don't get the 4K fascination many of our fellow cinema lovers have. Alas to each their own but special edition DVDs as well as the superior Blu-ray format, is all I'll ever need. Already invested in a 100" inch TV set, took it off of its factory settings & purchased a solid $198 buck soundbar. Sure it doesn't have Dolby Atmos on it but I don't give a shit about that one way or another. LOL
I'm a happy cinema collector and I own over eighty of my favorite Horror, Thriller. Westerns and the '50s Golden-era of Hollywood with some from my fave filmmakers thrown in: Paul Thomas Anderson, Tarantino, Kubrick, mid-career Hitchcock, two from Orson Welles ect. I'm currently good without a 4K player.👍Much respect.
@@He_Loves_Horror Sounds like a sweet set up! We have to do what we can to be able to keep collecting in this economy. My collection is filled with all the TV shows I like now and as a kid plus all the movies from actors I like including Statham, Neeson, Whalberg to name a few plus Jackie Chan and numerous other martial arts films.
I think if you watch the movies over and over again you are saving money. But if you buy a 4k and never watch it physical does get expensive.
Watching movies over and over again is pointless after the 5th time! I find it ironic that guys like him are streaming on social media to promote physical media as the only real option. Physical media came from a time before social media and streaming has taken over the world.
I come from a generation where physical media didn't exist and most people only watched a movie one time and you used your memory to relive the films you love. Lol
as a normal collector..collect what u want and what u will watch again, if storage is full you can start to sell it again, there always a buyer..buy a secondhand is good too..no need to buy newest every purchase.
Man this something that really hit me recently. I’ve been buying movies on disc since the late 90s, replaced most of my DVDs with Blu-ray’s, and some on UHD. And… it got out of control. I think I had over 1,000 discs (which is paltry to some peoples collections) and I realized that it would take years to go through and rewatch my movies, even if I had stopped now. I knew I had to strip and curate my collection and stop buying every movie I thought was pretty good.
You will feel much better with yourself if you only buy movies you plan to rewatch or share with others during movie nights, etc. Likewise with video games: buy physical games if you intend on playing it.
Buy to own content you like, don’t buy to collect. There’s a difference, and the repercussions increase throughout the years.
Ask yourself:
"What movie/show can I see myself not wanting to be without should the world lose every copy?
Something, no matter what, I will always enjoy."
The little mermaid 2?
No.
The fox and the hound 1?
Yes.
The terminator original trilogy?
Sure.
The rest after that?
I can do without.
You make a lot of good points, honestly. I think that it's a double-edged sword. There is always something to go after, but that also keeps you invested and looking forward to the next possible grab. For me, I just collect what I enjoy and want to watch. That's how I control myself and what I like. Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm trying!
I have close to 1,000 movies, but i wouldnt consider myself a "collector". Its not something i am proud of, per se. Its just something that happened over 2 decades. I personally think if you have a reason to buy a movie, you buy it. Whether its a movie you like, or a movie you have interest in seeing because you have some prior anticipation of seeing the movie (i.e. targeted purchase/something you didnt catch in theaters). But if you are buying just to "catch them all" to be like a pokemon master, or blindly buying just to have a giant wall/library, that is a bit over the top IMO. But i respect wanting to have an expansive library. Its something that doesnt need to have a pretentious aura about it based on size of collection. Sometimes more tasteful selection is better than size.
One aspect of physical I dislike is out print, when something is only available in the second hand market. Prices jump into the hundreds, I've bought so many series like this.
I used to have a massive collection of physical media. Then, I moved to a place with extremely high housing costs, and I simply couldn't justify dedicating an entire room to that stuff, so it had to go. Also, when the collection gets too large, organizing and accessing things gets difficult. I'm not much into movies, but I have a huge collection of music and a lot of video games. Everything is on my hard drive where I can easily access it, and the physical media that I have sits untouched in boxes. When I buy music now, I buy digital downloads. Of course, everything is backed up. I strongly recommending backing up physical media if you can. If a CD or DVD succumbs to rot, you still have the music or movie, and you can burn a new disc if you want. Records are a lot more durable as long as they are kept away from heat and you are careful not to scratch or break them. I kept a few shellac records, including some that date back to the 1890s that are still in great shape. Most records won't rot away, though U.S. Columbia 78s, which are a laminate construction, are less breakable than other 78s but sometimes the outer layer starts to peel off, especially if moisture gets into the interior. I still have a lot of books, but I don't like reading books from a screen, so physical media still rules there.
I am 63 I find i Now have Most of the Classic Movies and Series I wanted from the 70s and 80s and I have become much more choosy with recent content now.
I have stopped watching the new stuff too and just bought the titles I grew up with.
Greetings from great Britain...I did the same...started out collecting Dr Who ( mainly Tom Baker as im 57 and he was my childhood Doctor)..then Hammer horror and amicus films .then UK carry On films...then some horror and banned in the UK for decades...cannibalholocaust...i spit onyourgrave... ..texas chainsaw massacre...drillerkiller...exorcist even was banned in the UK!!! In the 80s and 90s.."video nasties" ..then classic 60s 70s 80s early 90s films and TV show...from USA cheers fraiser..quincy....Rochford files...to British shows like dad's army...steptoe and son faulty towers..monty python..the sweeney....along the way I discovered companies like Arrow and others who do great stuff with so many extras...they can be expensive and I've picked up most of my dvds blu-ray and cds really really cheap win the last 10 years when people dumped all their physical stuff in favour of Netflix and Spotify.....of course with great channels like this the absolute bargains are drying up and limited editions are drying up ...but its a great hobby and the best thing is buy what you love and will be able to watch again....although I sometimes take a risk if the local charity shop is doing 5 dvds for £1...!!!..can't even buy a bag of chips ( French fries for you American pals..)for a quid these days ..lol
This is exactly what I've done.
Spent a load of money over 2 yrs, got all the TV and movies I am interested in from the past, never need to pay for streaming now. In the long run will be worth every penny, it already is 🎉😊
I get overwhelmed by owning too many things. My collections are small but contain my favourite games, so I just have a small collection of PS2, PS4 and PS5 games, about 30 games in total. I will be able to play them all, and can take my time enjoying each of them.
As nice as the hobby may be, it also has its downsides. Collecting can quickly become an addiction and you often don't even notice it.
Up until now, I've always managed well financially when it comes to my passion for film.
But i must say, though, that 20-30 years ago I bought more films, but I hardly watched any. That went on for a few years until I decided that I couldn't go on like that and I started to really clear out everything that no longer interests me.
Now I only buy things that I know I'll watch the film more often.
We don't even want to start talking about the pricing policy because 30, 35, 40 for the standard 4K Bluray is a hell of a lot of money and you have to ask yourself whether it's even worth it anymore. There is a better alternative: buying used titles to save money.
Nothing lasts forever, and that also applies to physical media, but as long as you take good care of your stuff, it should last a long time.
Jamie you are incredibly likeable ❤
I live in Belgium,almost all my blu-rays come from goodwill stores,1 or 2 € for a movie.Great value for money,
@@vanstraelend Nice
I think this is the difference between having a collection and having a library. I'm not so much a collector as somebody that is building up a library of basically everything that I might want to watch. Building a library to watch is a lot less expensive.
I used to do this, it's very much an addiction and the only thing giving value to any of it is that other people are also addicted to it.
Your physical media will degrade and you will fall out of love with the titles you once loved as you age. There's also more media being created than a single person could possibly consume nowadays....
I'm OK with the digitized versions of the things I love. They take up hardly any space and I can delete the ones I don't want anymore. They will never degrade; only the things I store them on will degrade and I can transfer them before that happens.
At the end of the day we're talking about digitized information stored on physical media. The only way to perpetually store analog media is to digitize it too.
I'm old enough to have seen all these trends come and go. Oh, you're collecting vinyl now, as if that's not been done before? It's a hipster fad and little more. Low quality sound on an antiquated storage device. There's a very good reason it was replaced...
Just don't get artificial demand mixed up with real world value or tomorrow your expensive collection will be worthless and you'll be sitting there wondering why that is. Once, people wanted these things, and eventually they won't.
Alas people can collect as they wish but I largely agree with ya. I have Hans Asperger's Syndrome. Love me some '80s and '90s action films before the mid '90s or so. As well as some retro Horror and a _LOT_ of comic book adaptations. Namely X-Men and Spider Man titles as I am entertained by X-Men. But indeed: I'm a cinema lover but I only have over eighty films on Blu Ray. I'm not gonna collect much more because I originally had over 300 titles. As many noted, it was a strange burden trying to pick out something to even watch!
The same with music: I've got some film scores that I listen to plus Swing music and Smooth Jazz for relaxing. CDs only. Never understood the vinyl reemergence in fellow Western countries, but yeah to each their own. I got a shelf stereo system & that is enough for the time being. I'm getting back into collecting X-Men comic books in "lots" as well as the action figures as well as finally framing my theatrical posters. So I'll never own that many titles on physical media again. It just plain got to be an oddball hassle.
I only spend big on stuff I actually like a lot or have nostalgia for. I do however let myself spend more recklessly when things are cheap. For example, a charity shop near me sells Blu-rays for only $2 so I'll let myself buy movies that I don't know or am unsure if I will even watch because it's so cheap. For a while I was letting myself buy $5 Blu-rays on eBay, but it started adding up so I cut myself off from that route. One benefit of hunting for used copies locally is a lot of time you don't find anything. The first time I went to my local spot I found like 20 blu-rays so I bought them all. Next 10 times I went I bought maybe 3 or 4 blu-rays in total. Also hunting locally takes time so if you don't have that time or it feels kinda pointless then you end up not going and not buying. I haven't checked my local shop in a year so I went recently and they had 3 blu-rays I was not interested in so I decided I wasn't gonna go for a while because it felt like a waste of time.
Planet CHH just had a video he’s like I’ll never financially recover from this. A $300 TCM 50th anniversary chainsaw
I just suscribed to your channel, there is some collectors i watch that collection 1 movie but buy it 4 times cause of the different artwork. Some of the artwork is cool, but do they really need 4,5, or 6 of the same movie? I collect because i love watching movies, always have, always will.
I started collecting dvds a couple of months ago, no one wants them in Scotland anymore.
I am planning to have a little cinema room at home & I also felt like I should physically own things.
I buy from charity shops, the best deal I’m getting currently is 40 DVDS for £1 from a charity shop that is snowed under with them and 10 DVDs for £1 at another three stores.
I have accumulated just over 1600 movies already not counting the tv box sets & in total this collection currently stands me into around £120 pounds.
I’ve also begun collecting books, mostly they’re unread & I am paying £1 for ten from two different charity shops.
I won’t lie there is an element of prepping behind my thinking on collecting this stuff but I also just can’t quite believe that this stuff should be so undesirable now that it’s reached this price level.
I would love to see ur collection, dvds are pretty cheap there, I don’t know if they sell dvds offline where I live (India) or even if they do I think they sell mostly Bollywood stuff, so I searched amazon and each dvd is like 400INR or 4euros. Pretty costly, I can get 4OTT platforms for a month with that price.
Films falling into oblivion is a part of life. Hundreds of thousands of animal species have disappeared, even before humans existed. Millions of paintings and books have been burned, 80% of silent films no longer exist. It's great to preserve films you love, but it doesn't make much sense to preserve films you don't care about just for the sake of preserving them... because you won't care about them in the future either, much less your children and future generations. Preserving a film that no one wants to see and no one will see, makes no sense.
I'm recently read over your posts. You make a lot of good, fair points. Indeed: What is the point of preserving silent-era filmmaking onto standard def DVD or now Blu-Ray? None of them would be super entertaining by today's standards, and even those that survive (such as the few of Lon Chaney Senior) are not interesting. If I were a fellow cinema lover, such as myself, I would pick a genre such as Action, collect those titles on Blu-Ray (unless the transfer is super bad; filled with DVNR issues) and get eighty movies or so. Then retire. Yes, spot on. I've also noticed that TH-camrs collect all of these boutique labels, which is fine; some of their releases interest me.
But I wonder how many simply collect to do regular uploads? Some get six new titles a month (or even more) to show off on their vids. Sure, that is fine, but over the year that will add up to around over forty plus titles even ordered before Christmas time or their own personal birthday haul. So its gonna add up to Hoarder levels over time! Some people with all due respect need to look at their lives before they end up running out of space in their own modest four bedroom homes & end up on that Hoarders show...
i have the crow on blu ray and found it for $2
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Might be time for a haircut 😂
you should buy only movies u know you are definently going to watch more than once.......buying a movie just to have it or having one u are never going to watch or watch again is a big waste of money and space,......take it from me....80 percent of the stuff i have i know im never going to watch or watch again just havent gotten around to getting rid of them
I decided to stop at Bluray and don't bother with UHD , also only REALLY good movies, quality over quantity
Rip the discs to a nas and Create a backup for the backup. And you get the possibility to add it to a service like Plex, Jellyfin or a media streamer
To avoid discrot
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Here are a couple of films to watch for Halloween: The Monster Squad, The Shed, Warlock, Troll part 1, Sinister, V/H/S/Beyond, The Sixth Sense, Ghost Story, Ghoulies 2, Beetlejuice, Lore (2023), Abigail, Fear Street: Part One - 1994 from Netflix, Fear Street: Part Two - 1978, Fear Street: Part Three - 1666 from Netflix, Ghost Stories on Shudder, Sleepy Hollow, Trick R' Treat, Casper, Hocus Pocus, Under Wraps, Ghostbusters, Monster House, Night of the Demons, The Midnight Hour, The Forgotten One, ParaNorman, Waxwork part 1, Tales from the Hood, The Frighteners, Goosebumps, Creepshow, The Gate, Lady in White, Killer Party, Fright Night part 1, The Night Flier, The Lost Boys, Demons part 1, The Changeling, Poltergeist, The Mortuary Collection, Corpse Bride, Stake Land, Hellboy from Guillermo del Toro, Blade part 1, The Woman in Black, Crimson Peak, The Devil's Backbone, The Conjuring part 1, Evil Dead, Cabin in the Woods, Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight, House part 1, Tales from the Darkside: The Movie, Dog Soldiers, My Demon Lover and Pumpkinhead!!!
I try to get really good deals as to save money, and to not be picky. I do get good movies still I never saw and it's great
I have a fairly limited attention span,and appreciate physical media,because of this limitation,for obvious reasons
Hey mate, love the channel? Wanted to ask where in Aus you're based and what you do for work?
If you're buying something for your collection because you'd feel bad otherwise for not owning it, then you're missing the point of collecting I think. Collecting should only make you feel good, you shouldn't be feeling bad.
Are you collecting movies that you love or are you hoarding little plastic disk Is it ever enough ps And before the TH-cam craze, we never called it physical media. We called it collecting movies. I'm physical media to death with that term
If price is a factor, why are you buying UHD at about $40 instead of say $15 for DVD or $18 for BluRay, and that's using The Crow as an example, as of today 19 Oct 2024, at JB.
Man I was dreaming of a 12 disk 4k friday the 13th box set with a director cut of part 2 from vingar syndrome last night.😊😊😊
Collecting for me is about finding movies at a good price I never pay full price for blu rays. I was lucky when I started collecting blu rays 5 years ago as a lot of people started selling there collections in favour of Netflix and I found a second hand store that was selling second hand blu rays for £1 each every week when I went in there was hundreds of movie people had sold off so most of my collection was cheap and well worth having the blu ray. 4K is often overpriced but have still managed to grab most of my titles for super cheap second hand so collecting does not need to be an expensive hobby if you seek out the right deals and wait a while to own something you want you can easily do it on a budget. I picked up the last bond movie yesterday on standard blu ray with slipcover for £2 if I had bought it new 2 years ago it was £15, I personally get more enjoyment with my purchases when I get a deal and have never hd an issue with any disk I bought second hand. Cheers
It's an incredible waste of money since you don't have lifetimes to watch most of that stuff more than one time. If you are incredibly wealthy it's no problem but it's psychologically a bit weird. Its like your whole identity and worth as a person is based on what you consume. I would say take inspiration from what you love and create your own art or even movies. All that stuff takes up an enormous amount of space as well. I notice a lot of collectors are in terrible physical shape and are obese and diabetic or prediabetic. Put down the TV remote and go outside for a walk. And what about insurance? Can you insure all that stuff from floods, fire, etc?
I agree with some (again, some) of what you said. Personally I just collect the seminal classic film franchises that I dig (e.g. Back to the Future Trilogy, Spider-Man films, some '70s Thrillers; Cult Classics that I dig; Classic Westerns). I see a lot of "Man Cave Home Theater" tours that I dig on here since I'm a cinema lover. However, I only own over eighty titles. Gotta wonder how some of our fellow cinema lovers, despite it being a passion of mine, can view their over 900 more even more (!!) titles? Many show off book shelf of most of the boutique labels (Criterion Collection, Synapse, Scream Factory, Blue Underground, Arrow Video) and I wonder if many only collect because they dig Cult Classics as I sometimes do. Or if they're trying to impress others while maintaining their viewership? 🤔
Sure. It's their business; I'll respect 'em as a viewer. But It's like those video game collectors with most consoles released with over 200-plus titles for each one, rather cartridge based or discs. I wonder where in the Hell they personally find time to play all of 'em? While I want 'em to enjoy their hobbies, it seems like many of 'em have hoarding/obsessive compulsive issues. I mildly do & I can control mine, but I sort of feel sorry for others that can't do that. Seems like they're almost enslaved like to their addictions/hobbies and I feel bad for 'em.
Alas it is their money at the end of their day...
actually I think Ive collected everything I wanted for now. Like I do still order a box set or a limited edition every couple of months or so. But honestly i could just stop and start watching from my collection for years to come, even though my collection is not that big.
But with a little bit of streaming services on the side I’ll be fine.
I subbed man but disc rot is the last thing I’m worried about. Not worried about mold on tapes or off gassing on records or any of the things that require severe weathering compounded by years of bad storage!
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@lp7399 backing up my collection is an end game goal. Blurays should last 25 - 100 years, so while I'm early in building my collection I don't believe spending money on backing up is worth it till I've collected a majority of what I want.
I think we have covered these topics before.
If you "shed" like you buy,you're not a hoarder
19:46; you didn't get that box set with the trinkets ?
Im extremely selective with what i buy. It has to be a certified banger in my eyes fornme to get it and it has to be affordable. I dont think i paid more than $25 for any single movie even 25 is pushing it
Steaming is fine if you have a tv and a soundbar anything larger you need to buy disks
I bought lock stock and two smoking barrels for 14 bucks on blu ray what a classic
Oh gosh man I’m driving right now and want so bad to reply to what you said about stores going out of business! I will come back to this comment later today to give my sixteen cents!!!
You never came back :(
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if you have this habit they sell good across many sites even open
Alost horrded the first. I uad 50 inch dlp samsung and a 1000 Onkyp surround sound. I wanted to watch every movie in blu ray, but I was lucky I bought one crappy movie. The haunting of Connecticut. Stopped buying movies just to collect them. It's been 6 months, and I just watched a blood sport. I could understand the German words and navigate it just fine. lol It was great, and the atmos mix was done so well that I want to ditch my soundbar for 7.1.6 setup. Surround sound is where it's going to get expensive for me.😢
The dark side is people repeatedly using the term 'physical media collecting' when they clearly mean movie collecting 😁
At times they even compare it to collecting books, as if that's not physical media collecting in itself
it can mean CD's,friend
physical media refers to books, vinyl, CD's, DVD's, Blu Rays, 4k, Laserdisc etc.... it makes sense that people use an umbrella term to refer to very similar types of collections/collectors. I've never heard anyone say "collecting physical media is like collecting books" in my life.
@@machiel5888 Umbrella term works fine at times, but it does get misuses quite a lot, even on this channel "physical media collecting" gets compared to other forms of physical media collecting quite a few times 😄
This is a useless pet peeve for sure, but it just sounds funny whenever the video lists "X things that all physical media collectors hate" and the second point is disc rot or what not
@@machiel5888collecting books 📕 is physical media as you can now read books electronically.
It's all the same thing, dude. I collected movies, books, and CDs back in the day. I've since sold almost all of it and don't even miss it.
How about people recommending boutique DVD websites with crappie movies because their being given free DVD'S. cough cough Vinegar Syndrom and overpriced Aarow video.
I don't know about Arrow, but I haven't seen anyone get anything for free from Vinegar Syndrome before. I always leave room to be corrected. I think Vinegar Syndrome is a bit overrated and pricey (even during their many.....many sales).
Your collection is likely worth a lot more than you paid for it...
I sold my collection off years ago for fantastic profits. I lost money on probably most of my purchases, but the rare and high value ones more than made up for it overall.
I’ve had disc rot on blu ray, American psycho to name one!
I've had disc rot on DVD with Kate and Leopold. Ended up buying the bluray of it which only has the directors cut.and not the theatrical cut which is only on DVD. May rebuy it on DVD again solely for the theatrical cut.
@@Disney65Fan totally understandable!
collecting is getting to expensive do you pay that bill or buy food for the house or do you buy those movies or music ?????????????????????????
what I worry is disk rot with my collection
Me too!
Take care of your physical media and it will probably outlive you. My grandfather’s old-as-dirt vinyl records outlived him.
@@Jowurel Yeah I don't see people's fear about disc rot.. I have discs that are very old and have no sign of rot. Just keep them out of your attic and make sure your living space isn't a sauna and you'll be fine..
I have 40 years old VHS tapes and 20 years old DVDS and CDs that work fine. They should outlast you.
i always hate the following!
let's say you have a movie on dvd. later there's a bluray and you upgrade it. sell it? best case scenario. but wait! half of the bonus material is missing -.-
or audio tracks, commentary.
main reason for my vhs collection: non of these assholes rerelease the open matte versions (not everything was pan & scan shit)
Open matte vhs was great!
Hey Chief, with over 1k new movie release every year in movie theater & streaming. Who has time to rewatch movies so why waste Benjamin's on physical media 💰 Never fall in love with a movie, watch it, joy it & move on to your next movie 🎥 Life is too short & you can't take it with you Big Buddy 🍻
blu rays and 4k's are not expensive...
try to collect 35mm movies plus 35mm capable projector...good luck.
Most movies cost like ca. $1200 or even more
Deep down he wishes he had a collection like Kim Jong
I don't understand people who has 1000 or more movies. It's imposible that you really love 1000 different movies. Just keep what you really like. 100 movies, maybe 300 movies... that's it. Same with Vinyl records. Collections with 3000 records... why? You're not a museum, curate your collection, keep albums that you want to listen at least 2 times a year, movies that you want to see at least every 3 years. If you feel that you will not want to see that movie again, sell it.
Agreed. For myself, I'm into cinema. So I'll top out my collection at around 100 soon and then I actually plan to retire from collecting movies on Blu-ray and standard def DVD. Alas what is the point, ya know? None of us can take it all with us to the afterlife. To me even collections of over 500-plus movies are kind of oddball & partially insane. Same with music. Let's be honest: Collect as much as you want. Much respect. But most music from English speaking nations has been shit for over three decades, so simply collect some of your fave soundtracks, compilations & a two large boxsets of CDs and be done with it.
Having over 400 albums is insanity. Though I'm not the best person to ask as I'm also into 27X40" original theatrical posters to frame plus figures of my fave comic book (X-Men) still in their packagings. I'm only into so much cinema and especially limited on music as I have Asperger's Syndrome.
The idea of protecting films that are no longer available sounds noble. But it ends up being pretty silly to fill yourself with hundreds of unknown films that nobody cares about, especially that you don't even really like. It's great that you buy films that you love and that aren't available online. But becoming a museum of forgotten films is expensive, stressful and pointless. In any case, get together with other people and create a preservation organization. Don't do it alone.
Every collecting hobby eventually becomes hoarding.
Not necessarily. If you know how to restrain yourself from buying what you don’t need, and you know exactly the types of movies you want in your collection, then that’s not hoarding. Hoarding becomes where you just get things just to expand your collection for no reason or you get excited whenever a youtuber you follow is praising so many releases that have been handed freely to them. Just because it’s a cool release from Arrow Video or Scream Factory or whoever and you haven’t even seen the movie, doesn’t mean you have to get it. And most of those movies released by these boutique labels with special packaging are garbage movies. At that point, you’re not collecting movies, you’re collecting packaging of movies which most likely you don’t like. Now tell me that’s not hoarding.
@AlSumait Exactly. The likes or Mid Level Media are hoarders. Buying everything & watching a small percentage of it is absurd. Even worse is this double-dipping nonsense, what is even the point? These people have zero self control. It's also extremely selfish when you have a family, that extra cash could be spent a lot more beneficially to others.
The Dark side of physical media is all this people on TH-cam who do video because they have some few movies on the background shelf lol
150 Laserdiscs?? Man, that format is even worse than the first DVDs that were released. And lots of them have problems with playing (caused by disc rot). But anyways, this is a serious problem. Maybe it's something mentally controlling your obsession. Why aren't you going to the gym? It's good for your health, and you will stop thinking about collecting all the time.
Yes. See I do collect some Blu-Rays and standard definition DVDs that look cool. I dig Action and classic Horror that isn't too nerdish. But yeah man: Those modern day fellow Cinema lovers that are only _NOW_ getting into those dated/obsolete formats such as Laserdisc, cropped off fullscreen VHS tapes and even BetaMax for some leave me scratching my head. I mean collect what ya wish to. Much respect for your hobbies, but it is a strange new hobby in a sense. They were never good at holding much information onto one side, were always badly overpriced by $60 or more bucks. Not to mention as ya noted around 9% have major Lazer Rot issues. 🤔