@circe-ev1fl Good Day, I didn't analyze it that intensely. I never read the Odyssey by Homer. It was just moderately entertaining to me. I only know one Telemachus. The boy who had the 5 loaves and 2 fishes 🥖🐟 when Jesus fed the masses. Have a Blessed and Beautiful Day ✝️📖
Edmond: I find that smuggling is the life for me... and would be delighted to kill your friend, the maggot. Vampa: Oh, uh, by the way, Jacopo is the best knife fighter I've ever seen. Edmond: Perhaps you should get out more. Left the best part out of the scene
You have to understand that the movie is a very condensed adaptation of the book. This incarnation of Jacoppo is a composite of at least 3 characters I could recall. In the book Jacoppo was indeed the smuggler that helped Dantes find the treasure of Monte Cristo. But for the rest of the movie this guy is really playing more the character Bertuccio, who is the loyal right-hand man of the count, and a little bit of Haydee.
The Argentine version is 2 hours long and kept Haydee in the story and the count stays with her. th-cam.com/video/Im_PU2sM7cg/w-d-xo.html The 1967 version of Anna Karenina simplified the story because of the limitation of time, but the participation of Kitty and Levin was reduced, kept it close to the book Anna and vronsky And did not change the ending. Anna's suicide was maintained. www.veoh.com/watch/v142099412t6s3hHPE The screenwriter wanted to write a fanfic of the book.
The 2002 version as a alone film is terrible and the adaptation is mediocre. The film has so many problems. Alexandre Dumas read Homer the book is inspired by The Odyssey. Ulysses avoided direct confrontations and used his cunning because he was at a disadvantage. Edmond avoided direct confrontation because he was a foreigner (he assumed a new identity) and could not seek direct confrontation with members of the French elite. Dumas read about the relationship of Helen and Menelaus in the Odyssey. Menelua needed to use drugs to try to forget Helen's years in Troy and her suffering. Edmond would never forget that Mercedes was married to Fernand and had sex with him. It's very difficult to believe that a man in Edmond's position would deal with his ex-fiancée who was married to his worst enemy and had sex with him. Just remember that in Hollywood films we never see a man killing his wife for being unfaithful, but it happens a lot in real life. Haydee didn't have bitter memories for Edmond, but Mercedes did.
Edmond : [smiles after consideration] I find that smuggling is the life for me, and would be delighted to kill your friend the maggot! Luigi : Oh, and by the way, Jacopo is the best knife fighter I have ever seen. Edmond : [unmoved, sarcastically] Perhaps you should get out more...
Haydee is much prettier and in real life she would be chosen by Edmond. Real life proves this. During the filming of The Prisoner of Château d'If (1988) by Georgi Yungvald-Khilkevich, the married director falls in love with the beautiful Nadira Mirzaeva who played Haydee and the two become lovers. Afterwards he abandons his wife to marry Nadira. Nothing better than real life confirming the theories of Alexandre Dumas. Hollywood films are scripts written by ignorant people. The count of Mount Chrysot is a literary classic.
Okay, Luigi knows about the chateau def and that this guy was clearly there a very long time and probably went through hell before finally escaping, and he forces him into a position to possibly die within only minutes of achieving his freedom? I know he eventually become his friend and that he can win the fight no problem, but that's a real dick move.
remember things that happened hundreds of years ago cannot be judged the same as we could judge them today, cultures and ethics were different back then this is a lesson that we should all know and also if everyone knew this lesson we wouldn't have such conflict today
@@crusaderz_fire3168 Honestly, i'd say we still have the same culture and ethics in the majority of the world, but the upper class in a few of the developed countries have convinced themselves that isn't the case. Also, they've convinced quite a few people that showing weakness or mercy to the wolves of the world will somehow make the world a better place and somehow prevent the wolf from eating them. That naivety/naivete' is what gets people killed every single day. It's a hard and dangerous world we live in. I do appreciate your appeal to empathy and understanding though even if I disagree with the projected outcome.
In the real world that's how it is. Vampa owes neither men anything and in that time and place he has ultimate authority over their circumstance. It's only logical that he looks to his own personal interest.
Aw, my favourite line is cut lol After taking a moment to think before agreeing to Luigi's conditions, Edmond simply responds: "Then I think pirating is the life for me and I'd be delighted to kill your friend the maggot." Boss.
I have no idea what this is I just clicked on it and I was like no way there is going to be a fight to the death cause Dante looks like the hero and there is no way they are going to cast luis guzmán in a role where he has to die immediately.
Edmond : [smiles after consideration] I find that smuggling is the life for me, and would be delighted to kill your friend the maggot! Luigi : Oh, and by the way, Jacopo is the best knife fighter I have ever seen. Edmond : [unmoved, sarcastically] Perhaps you should get out more...
To be fair the count of monte cristo is a doorstop of a book. Only a TV series with a season or two could possibly do it justice. Even so I do like this movie. There are certain liberties that had to be taken, plot elements changed, characters merged cut or changed but I think they did the best they could. For ambitious of a project as this is they did a good job and the movie is entertaining in it's own right even if it is not faithful to the original story. The book is a slow burn with layers of plot, story, characters, etc. The movie cannot be. Yes I prefer the book but this movie wasn't bad.
@@danielkotulski4785 In 2024 we will have a miniseries with 8 episodes with Sam Claflin and Jermey Irons. Filming is underway The 2002 version as a alone film is terrible and the adaptation is mediocre. The film has so many problems. Alexandre Dumas read Homer the book is inspired by The Odyssey. Ulysses avoided direct confrontations and used his cunning because he was at a disadvantage. Edmond avoided direct confrontation because he was a foreigner (he assumed a new identity) and could not seek direct confrontation with members of the French elite. Dumas read about the relationship of Helen and Menelaus in the Odyssey. Menelua needed to use drugs to try to forget Helen's years in Troy and her suffering. Edmond would never forget that Mercedes was married to Fernand and had sex with him. It's very difficult to believe that a man in Edmond's position would deal with his ex-fiancée who was married to his worst enemy and had sex with him. Just remember that in Hollywood films we never see a man killing his wife for being unfaithful, but it happens a lot in real life. Haydee didn't have bitter memories for Edmond, but Mercedes did.
@@aronlane4664 In 2024 we will have a miniseries with 8 episodes and with Sam Claflin and Jermey Irons. Filming is underway The film has so many problems. Alexandre Dumas read Homer the book is inspired by The Odyssey. Ulysses avoided direct confrontations and used his cunning because he was at a disadvantage. Edmond avoided direct confrontation because he was a foreigner (he assumed a new identity) and could not seek direct confrontation with members of the French elite. Dumas read about the relationship of Helen and Menelaus in the Odyssey. Menelua needed to use drugs to try to forget Helen's years in Troy and her suffering. Edmond would never forget that Mercedes was married to Fernand and had sex with him. It's very difficult to believe that a man in Edmond's position would deal with his ex-fiancée who was married to his worst enemy and had sex with him. Just remember that in Hollywood films we never see a man killing his wife for being unfaithful, but it happens a lot in real life. Haydee didn't have bitter memories for Edmond, but Mercedes did.
This version of the Count of Monte Cristo was great
@circe-ev1fl Good Day, I didn't analyze it that intensely. I never read the Odyssey by Homer. It was just moderately entertaining to me. I only know one Telemachus. The boy who had the 5 loaves and 2 fishes 🥖🐟 when Jesus fed the masses. Have a Blessed and Beautiful Day ✝️📖
Honor. Recognized by the many. And practiced by the very very few.
It explains why Edmund employed them after all that.
"...Even the ones that are not feeling too good..." Excellent!
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. I love this movie it brings me to tears every time I see it and it makes me believe in love again.
Many versions of this story have been made. This is the best version.
This movie is mediocre. France is superior at adapting its classics and the story is better in French.
@@ebenezer4107 this is why no one likes french
@@ebenezer4107 ze franze is superhior at adapting itz clasicz,,, auuuch
Back when a man's oath meant something and were kept no matter what
F0X Tell that a liberal my friend.
TRUE thay
@@christopherthrawn1333 coming from a disgusting two-faced russian Traitor!
Coming from that guy, your name better not be Carlito Brigante, or you will find his oath to be complete shit.
@@christopherthrawn1333
You mean like "I'll release my taxes, absolutely.."
Like THAT oath?
what a great movie, thanks to alexandre dumas r.i.p.
Edmond: I find that smuggling is the life for me... and would be delighted to kill your friend, the maggot.
Vampa: Oh, uh, by the way, Jacopo is the best knife fighter I've ever seen.
Edmond: Perhaps you should get out more.
Left the best part out of the scene
without a doubt
I was coming here to type the exact same thing. Kings to you, Brian.
This movie is amazing!
Awesome
The guy that played Jacopo was assume in this roll. And funny as hell. I tip my hat.
One of my favorite Movies !!
This and Princes Bride.
You cut the best lines
"Oh and Jacapo he's the best knife fighter I've ever seen." "Perhaps you should get out more..."
@C 3 lines.
"I have come to find that smuggling is the life for me and I will gladly kill your friend the Maggot."
Yup
"... even on the ones that aren't feeling too good.."
That's gold though 👌
You have to understand that the movie is a very condensed adaptation of the book. This incarnation of Jacoppo is a composite of at least 3 characters I could recall. In the book Jacoppo was indeed the smuggler that helped Dantes find the treasure of Monte Cristo. But for the rest of the movie this guy is really playing more the character Bertuccio, who is the loyal right-hand man of the count, and a little bit of Haydee.
The Argentine version is 2 hours long and kept Haydee in the story and the count stays with her.
th-cam.com/video/Im_PU2sM7cg/w-d-xo.html
The 1967 version of Anna Karenina simplified the story because of the limitation of time, but the participation of Kitty and Levin was reduced, kept it close to the book Anna and vronsky And did not change the ending. Anna's suicide was maintained.
www.veoh.com/watch/v142099412t6s3hHPE
The screenwriter wanted to write a fanfic of the book.
as a movie alone it was good but if you've read the book the adaptation was horrible.
@@kevin-wg5iv How long would the movie be to make a faithful adaptation?
@@eddarby469 would have to make a trilogy of films!
The 2002 version as a alone film is terrible and the adaptation is mediocre.
The film has so many problems. Alexandre Dumas read Homer the book is inspired by The Odyssey. Ulysses avoided direct confrontations and used his cunning because he was at a disadvantage. Edmond avoided direct confrontation because he was a foreigner (he assumed a new identity) and could not seek direct confrontation with members of the French elite.
Dumas read about the relationship of Helen and Menelaus in the Odyssey. Menelua needed to use drugs to try to forget Helen's years in Troy and her suffering. Edmond would never forget that Mercedes was married to Fernand and had sex with him. It's very difficult to believe that a man in Edmond's position would deal with his ex-fiancée who was married to his worst enemy and had sex with him. Just remember that in Hollywood films we never see a man killing his wife for being unfaithful, but it happens a lot in real life.
Haydee didn't have bitter memories for Edmond, but Mercedes did.
You cut out the best line in the entire scene damn it.
Edmond : [smiles after consideration] I find that smuggling is the life for me, and would be delighted to kill your friend the maggot!
Luigi : Oh, and by the way, Jacopo is the best knife fighter I have ever seen.
Edmond : [unmoved, sarcastically] Perhaps you should get out more...
I like this ending a lot better than the one that's in the book.
Haydee is much prettier and in real life she would be chosen by Edmond.
Real life proves this. During the filming of The Prisoner of Château d'If (1988) by Georgi Yungvald-Khilkevich, the married director falls in love with the beautiful Nadira Mirzaeva who played Haydee and the two become lovers. Afterwards he abandons his wife to marry Nadira.
Nothing better than real life confirming the theories of Alexandre Dumas.
Hollywood films are scripts written by ignorant people. The count of Mount Chrysot is a literary classic.
Real life defies all Hollywood clichés on a daily basis.
*I swear on my dead relatives.. Even the ones I don't feel too good about" funniest line
"even on the ones that arent feeling too good".
Love that movie
Usually The Guz is the comedy relief. In this movie he got to expand his repertoire, and the captain was the comedy relief.
Everyone needs a Jacapo...
then we need to work on being worthy of a Jacapo
too few recognize their Jacopo.
far too few appreciate him.
Great classic and movie!
The pirate Captain seems like a nice guy.
I really enjoyed this film
Luis Guzmán. I see him at the Home Depot fairly often. I forget he's an actor, lol
Love this movie think maybe I'll watch this tomorrow ❤
Luigi vamps looks like dj khalid
Why tf would you edit out one of the best lines of the whole movie??
sorry.. 2 lines I meant
And he was good for his words too.
Loyalty 😐, which some people will never understand.
Okay, Luigi knows about the chateau def and that this guy was clearly there a very long time and probably went through hell before finally escaping, and he forces him into a position to possibly die within only minutes of achieving his freedom? I know he eventually become his friend and that he can win the fight no problem, but that's a real dick move.
It could be worse: he could arrest him and take him back to Chateau D'If.
He's a smuggler and likely a pirate. His job description is literally 'Being a dick'
remember things that happened hundreds of years ago cannot be judged the same as we could judge them today, cultures and ethics were different back then this is a lesson that we should all know and also if everyone knew this lesson we wouldn't have such conflict today
@@crusaderz_fire3168 Honestly, i'd say we still have the same culture and ethics in the majority of the world, but the upper class in a few of the developed countries have convinced themselves that isn't the case. Also, they've convinced quite a few people that showing weakness or mercy to the wolves of the world will somehow make the world a better place and somehow prevent the wolf from eating them. That naivety/naivete' is what gets people killed every single day. It's a hard and dangerous world we live in. I do appreciate your appeal to empathy and understanding though even if I disagree with the projected outcome.
In the real world that's how it is. Vampa owes neither men anything and in that time and place he has ultimate authority over their circumstance. It's only logical that he looks to his own personal interest.
Why did you cut his reply to the captain's offer? It was the best part of this scene.
best movie
love this scene :) "i will call you zatara"
"Sounds fiercesome."
"Not really; it means 'driftwood'."
"My name is Luigi Vampa! I'm a smuggler and a thief."
Aw, my favourite line is cut lol After taking a moment to think before agreeing to Luigi's conditions, Edmond simply responds: "Then I think pirating is the life for me and I'd be delighted to kill your friend the maggot." Boss.
Jacopo was afraid of no one!
Great movie
2:35 "Jacopo, yousa havena liveplay with thisen hisen?"
It is Edmond and Jacapo.
Luckily, the underdog didn't say "I am your woman forever". Otherwise I will have a deep shadow in my mind.
Best part is cut!
never turn your back on Pachanga
Where is the odds that day he escape. There are band of bandits on that shore that he joins.
Jacabo technically didn't "steal" from his mates. He just held out some gold on them.
Jesus the troubled year's
I have no idea what this is I just clicked on it and I was like no way there is going to be a fight to the death cause Dante looks like the hero and there is no way they are going to cast luis guzmán in a role where he has to die immediately.
Edmond : [smiles after consideration] I find that smuggling is the life for me, and would be delighted to kill your friend the maggot!
Luigi : Oh, and by the way, Jacopo is the best knife fighter I have ever seen.
Edmond : [unmoved, sarcastically] Perhaps you should get out more...
Guess what my name is, I have no clue what they named me like that 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Nice scene.🌈🌈🌈🌈👍🤗😍❤️
deal or no deal?
You left this out... WHY???
Luigi: Oh, by the way... Jacopo is the best knife fighter I've ever seen.
Edmond: Perhaps you should get out more.
This is a very strange way to replace disciples...
"So mi amice..."
He just called Dantes "So my girlfriends..." in Italian.
I thought it was "I know my friend" in English from Italian or "So my Friend" in Latin.
@@Mav_F shouldnt be "meus amicus" referring to a man friend in Latin?🤔
@@hudortunnel9784 ok
@@hudortunnel9784 latin not spoken by then...
@@Joelll15 why not?
Edman and Jacapo. lol
Then Jesus said: I find that smuggling is the life for me...
lmao!
❤️
they edited out the funny part.
Okay han solo
Dios me hara justicia
Isn’t anyone going say anything about the Capt Crunch hat? It’s poppin!
You just said something about it.
IiiiiiiT's Grrrrr-eat!
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
Another made-up scene that never happened in the thick book full of plenty of good plot lines!
Soundtrack?
Luigi Vampa was a bandit in Rome, not a sailor. This movie butchered the story worse than Starship Troopers.
To be fair the count of monte cristo is a doorstop of a book. Only a TV series with a season or two could possibly do it justice. Even so I do like this movie. There are certain liberties that had to be taken, plot elements changed, characters merged cut or changed but I think they did the best they could. For ambitious of a project as this is they did a good job and the movie is entertaining in it's own right even if it is not faithful to the original story. The book is a slow burn with layers of plot, story, characters, etc. The movie cannot be. Yes I prefer the book but this movie wasn't bad.
@Pedro Sepulveda 🤣
I haven't read the book so maybe it is better than storyline of this movie but this movie is still excellent
@@danielkotulski4785 In 2024 we will have a miniseries with 8 episodes with Sam Claflin and Jermey Irons. Filming is underway
The 2002 version as a alone film is terrible and the adaptation is mediocre.
The film has so many problems. Alexandre Dumas read Homer the book is inspired by The Odyssey. Ulysses avoided direct confrontations and used his cunning because he was at a disadvantage. Edmond avoided direct confrontation because he was a foreigner (he assumed a new identity) and could not seek direct confrontation with members of the French elite.
Dumas read about the relationship of Helen and Menelaus in the Odyssey. Menelua needed to use drugs to try to forget Helen's years in Troy and her suffering. Edmond would never forget that Mercedes was married to Fernand and had sex with him. It's very difficult to believe that a man in Edmond's position would deal with his ex-fiancée who was married to his worst enemy and had sex with him. Just remember that in Hollywood films we never see a man killing his wife for being unfaithful, but it happens a lot in real life.
Haydee didn't have bitter memories for Edmond, but Mercedes did.
@@aronlane4664 In 2024 we will have a miniseries with 8 episodes and with Sam Claflin and Jermey Irons. Filming is underway
The film has so many problems. Alexandre Dumas read Homer the book is inspired by The Odyssey. Ulysses avoided direct confrontations and used his cunning because he was at a disadvantage. Edmond avoided direct confrontation because he was a foreigner (he assumed a new identity) and could not seek direct confrontation with members of the French elite.
Dumas read about the relationship of Helen and Menelaus in the Odyssey. Menelua needed to use drugs to try to forget Helen's years in Troy and her suffering. Edmond would never forget that Mercedes was married to Fernand and had sex with him. It's very difficult to believe that a man in Edmond's position would deal with his ex-fiancée who was married to his worst enemy and had sex with him. Just remember that in Hollywood films we never see a man killing his wife for being unfaithful, but it happens a lot in real life.
Haydee didn't have bitter memories for Edmond, but Mercedes did.
Edited? Are you kidding me? Booooiiiik
Ugh, ABC Family. Cut out the best fucking line of the scene, and one of the best of the film.