Coffee on the porch watching the master share the secrets of what is behind the curtain ( Wizard of Humble ) ! It doesn’t get any better than this on Sunday morning. Thanks George!
I’ve been thinking about that hardboard under the water tank. If it ever gets wet the hardboard will be like a graham cracker in milk. Perhaps look into polystyrene sheet, thin, flexible, durable, heap, and waterproof.
I have the same Lawrence windows, they never leak, even open in heavy rain! I thought I remembered that my trim ring came on the window, so the holes matched.
Unbelievable attention to detail with the bolts demonstration. My 2011 Winnebago View Preview/3500 Sprinter van has NO insulation over the wheel wells.
If you can't do a wire channel, a large piece of Pex hose can flex and curve, and will give serious protection to your wires. Use wire lube to stuff it through and it will go much easier. Know that heat buildup in a conduit can increase wire resistance, so go up a guage or two.
Hi George, we installed a CRL window with an awning window in the sliding door of our RAM ProMaster 3500. We are having the very same issues you mentioned. We have been in contact with our reseller who is awating response from CRL. In our situation, even after sending video and consulting with the reseller, the clamp ring has not tightened the window up to the van side so the window rattles when driving. We have not yet tested for water tightness. TY for you continued awesome video, instructions, and enjoyment watching your van builds and innovations.
man, i love all your videos. I still am perplexed why the Carey's traded your van....it was, by my estimation, visually and funtionally PERFECT! Look forward to your sunday videos for years now!
I have watched many small camper van builders. In my opinion, your build details convince me completely that your company pays for so m, much detail. ,I am strongly persuaded to ask you to come to South Africa and start the same type of company here.
Another beautiful conversion coming together nicely. I've installed many CR Lawrence windows with the metal ring and none of them line up. What I do is clamp the ring all the way around so the holes in the ring line up with the groove in the window as closely as possible. Then I pre-drill the holes in the window, boring out (elongating) the hole in the ring where needed. Good luck!
George your builds are beautiful, proper, and clever. I love the flip washers! My 38 years doing similar work in aviation loving your attention to detail, especially your consideration for maintenance access. Brilliant!
George after watching this video,I'm wondering if any small to name brand companies are putting this much effort into their van building. I like the use of the 12v/ac refrigerator.
I am curious about the water tank, what about going with a tank that is meant to fit over the wheel well? Then there is no bridge framing, it lowers the CG of a lot of weight(8.34lbs/gal= 417 lbs of water) for better handling(less body roll), and it would free up more space under the bed. One other concern, those Isotherm fridge and freezer are available as two separate units that could be mounted side by side keeping the CG lower in the van and putting a light weight cloths closet or pantry storage above the two floor mounted units. Just some ideas I thought of.
I had the exact same problem with my bunk windows from Flarespace (didn't know they are Lawrence windows). Worse, on one, my rubber gasket had its seam located along the top edge & was not glued together. I had to tear it off and used urethane instead.
George you are a great teacher and every van you design is impeccably built. I know its a lot of work but you really seem to enjoy yourself and you take such pride in your work. I love your sense of humor and lightheartedness. Its a pleasure watching your well made videos including the blues music.😊
Thank you so much for sharing all your tips, I have used many of your methods in building out my Nissan NV 4x4. I would have never figured out how to do the sub-floor if not for you. I already thinking of how much weight I could save by making my bed platform as you have done here, rather than 15 series 8020
The devil's in the details. Never a truer phrase. So clever to invert the cut offs from the C-span to make a level bolt platform. Genius. The Aqua Hot Heater is $6000 (gulp!). The Truma Aquago is $2400 by comparison. Why are these so pricey, sheesh! Its just a heater. I'm very curious to know how the flange turns out on that CR Laurence window. Keep us posted. Great job on holding them accountable for these pesky details. You are reforming the industry. Way to go, George! Happy Sunday!!
I’ve installed at least 20 of those Laurence windows and the trim rings have been a constant wrestle, some fit better than others but the radius’s never want to line up
I watch you go over these details in other videos and am always impressed each time I see the detail and preceision you put into your builds. Plan is one day soon, one of these builds will be for me. Take care George.
😢I’m tethered to home, caregiving a Mother BUT I’m watching & learning from your videos:) love them! Would love to come down & learn hands ON for myself!! Bless you guys! Keep going! Lot’s of us watching!
👋 GEORGE💪❤. I keep having fantasies of you "HumbleRoading" a cargo-trailer conversion... I have dreams of what you and the HR-Team could 'magic-up" with an extra foot or two of width, height, and raising the floor 6 inches to a foot, for crossing wires and plumbing.... Maxing out solar on the roof, .... Perhaps someday 🤞 Mini-Me will have a new cousin born addition to the HR creations....🐣 A conversion by " GEORGE' and the HR-TEAM " 💪✨
Good Morning 🌞 George, The the evolution of your process is impressive to say the least. You continue to refine and improve the methods of your madness, the attention to detail is staggering and I absolutely love it❗️😍 Stay the course, I truly appreciate your dedication. 👍
George, have you ever toyed with the idea of making the toilet unit slide out of the shower area perhaps under a front area to give full showering and complete toilet area when slid back. I would be interested to lnow.
The sliding toilet trick requires twice the space of the toilet footprint. It’s not efficient you give up a lot of storage space in the spot where the toilet has to go hide during your shower.
George, looks like your shower walls here are different than prior builds. What material are the two sides was made from? Do you plan a detailed video on how you put this one together?
Take a look at Broad Arrow 815 x 312 Double Glazed Acrylic Windows from Wilderness Vans. I used them and I think they are much better than the Lawrence windows.
Hi George, you and your team do a cracker job. Thanks for helping me build my Toyota Coaster small bus RV. , not many Ausies use 3030, but I am loving the system. When I get a complement about my workmanship I just tell them to check out Humble Road, “I just see how George does it”. Question, what glue do u use for Vinyl attachment, water based ? Thanks again Ron
Hey, George! Have you done any videos to show how you build the showers in your van (pan, walls, materials, etc.)? I'm sure others would be interested in that too. Thanks.
I've watched George from the beginning. Measure. From. The. Center. Of. The. Van! "Don't ask me how I know this." Of all his tips and lectures, do not ignore this one. (don't ask me how I know 😜.)
The tanks that sit on the floor and contour over the wheel well might be a good option to keep the CG low and open space above the tank for other installations.
The volume of those tanks is not adequate for some of my clients needs. And I would have to connect the two tanks on opposing sides of the van, not optimal.
I need to clarify that debacle. They were not Lawrence windows! They were proprietary Flarespace windows. I spoke with a rep from Flarespace, very helpful. We are going to try one more set, an exchange. And see if we just got a stinker.
I got away from that Aluminum.. It weights more then wood. And takes up space..Then I went to high density foam rubber in place of wood sub floor. As my wood was eat up with rot, mold and mildew..Then installed Pergo Flooring 10mm...That fixed that issue.. Then used 3M 600L insulation..
Yeah ...CR Lawrence windows require additional fabrication to fit, I fitted 2 sliders on my van and one of the inner rings needed half an inch shaved off! I also tossed their self-tappers, lined it all up, then drilled and tapped my own holes on the bench. Fitting was then pretty easy and they look and work great, so the design is fine, they just need to introduce some QC at the factory!
Wise words of course, and I admire your resistance to making obvious improvements in order to protect your warranty position, especially with such a poor product. I’m free to assess and take my own risks, so as a DIYer, it was a yes-yes!
Good luck with CR Laurence ! It’s like trying to contact the pentagon and asking for the nuclear launch codes. Who knows though? You may get lucky. Good luck.
I have a old ford e250 coachman that I want to redo so my question is about what is the best insulation that I should use. the top of the van is fiberglass the sides of course is metal it’s a 1996 thank you I watch your channel all the time and your information is invaluable
do you determine the center line based off of multiple measurements along the body as it tapers..or...do you take an average along the length and make that the center? I had an old house a time or two..i could pick "level" or "plumb", but not both.
What is the material used for the shower walls shown? I began testing convection heaters in Bessie two years ago and am happy with it. Great minds think the same.
I am upfitting my 2012 Roadtrk Sprinter and using 3" c-channel. My plan was to lie them flat, as opposed to on their side like you are doing. Is the way you are doing it stronger or??? I was thinking that I could use the cavity in them as a trough, but curious as to why you put them on the side. Any tips?
Yes, laying them taller is MUCH stronger. Having said that, unless you plan on very heavy load, go ahead with your trough idea. I have done that myself. Supporting the bed? keep in mind that all the C-channels work together to carry the load. Set them up and sit on the plywood. Make note of the flex and bounce. Should be fine.
Everything is square to the van deck, but being plumb assumes that the deck is level to begin with. If the deck is level, how much does it go out of level when all of the weight is added during the build? The suspension must give a bit.
As before I enjoyed the video. My only peve is the bed. I just don’t like it. It’s too high. Any other design would interfere with the water tank and your battery/electrical/ heating system. So I fully understand why you do it that way and I acknowledge the usefulness of the garage, I just don’t like it.
No. Reflect fix needs an air gap in order to work the Thinsulate is considered the air gap. Its fibrous composition merely slows the transmission of temperature change once that cold or hot hits the Reflectix it is reflected back up through the Thinsulate laying on the back of our ceiling panel, the reflectors does nothing for the inside of the van, in my opinion…
I came across this warning about CRL windows recently at one of their resellers: "The CRL VW1033 has had an abnormally large amount of quality issues recently. Nomadic Supply Company recommends the VWD OVR3310 Overlander Camper Van Bunk Sliding Window over CRL VW1033 bunk windows because the VWD OVR3310 Overlander Camper Van Bunk Sliding Window has a better rubber outer seal, has a better rubber main seal, a better screen and a much better warranty. Our Overlander window has a UV coated 3M weather seal, this provides better protection from dry rot and the elements of the standard sponge CRL uses. A thicker rubber trim is utilized on the Overlander offering a cleaner non-wavy appearance and better seal from debris and wind. Overlander features a screen that is inset into the framing of the window this keeps the screen tighter and quieter. The CRL insets on one side then overlaps the frame on 3 sides. On the outside there are two plastic turn tabs that hold the screen to the frame, this will cause rattling on rough roads. Warranty - Overlander offers a 1 Year Warranty, and CRL offers a 30 Day Warranty. Both are 33″ x 10″ Cut-Outs, Both are black frames and Solar Privacy Glass Overlander has a better UV filter at 17% allowable vs 28% allowable. If you are using these windows in our Flarespace Flares then you cannot use the Overlander, but if not, we’d strongly recommend the VWD OVR3310 Overlander Camper Van Bunk Sliding Window."
Coffee on the porch watching the master share the secrets of what is behind the curtain ( Wizard of Humble ) ! It doesn’t get any better than this on Sunday morning. Thanks George!
Second this! Doing the same thing 😊
Genius! George, you are a natural born teacher!
At General Dynamics we always built summaries of the center line submarines are just like giant vans
I’ve been thinking about that hardboard under the water tank. If it ever gets wet the hardboard will be like a graham cracker in milk. Perhaps look into polystyrene sheet, thin, flexible, durable, heap, and waterproof.
Good morning George
Love your mindset
Waste Not Want Not
Too many people can't see the potential in what my Dad always called "Leftovers" not waste.
I have the same Lawrence windows, they never leak, even open in heavy rain! I thought I remembered that my trim ring came on the window, so the holes matched.
Unbelievable attention to detail with the bolts demonstration. My 2011 Winnebago View Preview/3500 Sprinter van has NO insulation over the wheel wells.
If you can't do a wire channel, a large piece of Pex hose can flex and curve, and will give serious protection to your wires. Use wire lube to stuff it through and it will go much easier. Know that heat buildup in a conduit can increase wire resistance, so go up a guage or two.
Hi George, we installed a CRL window with an awning window in the sliding door of our RAM ProMaster 3500. We are having the very same issues you mentioned. We have been in contact with our reseller who is awating response from CRL. In our situation, even after sending video and consulting with the reseller, the clamp ring has not tightened the window up to the van side so the window rattles when driving. We have not yet tested for water tightness.
TY for you continued awesome video, instructions, and enjoyment watching your van builds and innovations.
Film yr water test and post pls !!!!!
man, i love all your videos. I still am perplexed why the Carey's traded your van....it was, by my estimation, visually and funtionally PERFECT!
Look forward to your sunday videos for years now!
I have watched many small camper van builders. In my opinion, your build details convince me completely that your company pays for so m, much detail. ,I am strongly persuaded to ask you to come to South Africa and start the same type of company here.
Another beautiful conversion coming together nicely. I've installed many CR Lawrence windows with the metal ring and none of them line up. What I do is clamp the ring all the way around so the holes in the ring line up with the groove in the window as closely as possible. Then I pre-drill the holes in the window, boring out (elongating) the hole in the ring where needed. Good luck!
Without even a discussion, I’ll be sending these windows back for a refund. They are unacceptable.
George your builds are beautiful, proper, and clever. I love the flip washers! My 38 years doing similar work in aviation loving your attention to detail, especially your consideration for maintenance access. Brilliant!
Good Morning George
Always Enjoy Your Sunday Morning Humble Road Videos !!
Love Your Build’s .
George after watching this video,I'm wondering if any small to name brand companies are putting this much effort into their van building. I like the use of the 12v/ac refrigerator.
Good morning, all!
I am curious about the water tank, what about going with a tank that is meant to fit over the wheel well? Then there is no bridge framing, it lowers the CG of a lot of weight(8.34lbs/gal= 417 lbs of water) for better handling(less body roll), and it would free up more space under the bed. One other concern, those Isotherm fridge and freezer are available as two separate units that could be mounted side by side keeping the CG lower in the van and putting a light weight cloths closet or pantry storage above the two floor mounted units. Just some ideas I thought of.
I had the exact same problem with my bunk windows from Flarespace (didn't know they are Lawrence windows). Worse, on one, my rubber gasket had its seam located along the top edge & was not glued together. I had to tear it off and used urethane instead.
George you are a great teacher and every van you design is impeccably built. I know its a lot of work but you really seem to enjoy yourself and you take such pride in your work. I love your sense of humor and lightheartedness. Its a pleasure watching your well made videos including the blues music.😊
Thank you so much for sharing all your tips, I have used many of your methods in building out my Nissan NV 4x4. I would have never figured out how to do the sub-floor if not for you. I already thinking of how much weight I could save by making my bed platform as you have done here, rather than 15 series 8020
Your body of knowledge is amazing. Couple that with genuine curiosity, and you have a Humble Road van. 👍
The fastest videos on TH-cam ❤
The devil's in the details. Never a truer phrase. So clever to invert the cut offs from the C-span to make a level bolt platform. Genius.
The Aqua Hot Heater is $6000 (gulp!). The Truma Aquago is $2400 by comparison. Why are these so pricey, sheesh! Its just a heater.
I'm very curious to know how the flange turns out on that CR Laurence window. Keep us posted. Great job on holding them accountable for these pesky details. You are reforming the industry. Way to go, George! Happy Sunday!!
Errr merrrrh gawd
I’ve installed at least 20 of those Laurence windows and the trim rings have been a constant wrestle, some fit better than others but the radius’s never want to line up
I watch you go over these details in other videos and am always impressed each time I see the detail and preceision you put into your builds. Plan is one day soon, one of these builds will be for me. Take care George.
😢I’m tethered to home, caregiving a Mother BUT I’m watching & learning from your videos:) love them! Would love to come down & learn hands ON for myself!! Bless you guys!
Keep going! Lot’s of us watching!
I just love his work and dedication to detail. Hope all is going well.
I find vans floors not perfectly level to square off of. I put a center line on floor and ceiling and take measurements from them to be better for me.
George, you're killing me with the amazing van designs. I want a HR van so bad!
I like this video 🤗
👋 GEORGE💪❤. I keep having fantasies of you "HumbleRoading" a cargo-trailer conversion... I have dreams of what you and the HR-Team could 'magic-up" with an extra foot or two of width, height, and raising the floor 6 inches to a foot, for crossing wires and plumbing.... Maxing out solar on the roof, .... Perhaps someday 🤞 Mini-Me will have a new cousin born addition to the HR creations....🐣 A conversion by " GEORGE' and the HR-TEAM " 💪✨
Way to sneak in that happy dance news at the end!! Be seeing you soon 🥳🚐
Always do Great Work! Love your videos.
Yippee!!
a great way to end the week
W Lonesome Roads
My hero!!!
Great video as always George.
Good tips!
Thank you George! What close cell reflectives do you recommend as the top layer prior to the plywood?
Great intel. 👌
Good Morning 🌞 George,
The the evolution of your process is impressive to say the least. You continue to refine and improve the methods of your madness, the attention to detail is staggering and I absolutely love it❗️😍 Stay the course, I truly appreciate your dedication. 👍
Many thanks
Amazing!
George, have you ever toyed with the idea of making the toilet unit slide out of the shower area perhaps under a front area to give full showering and complete toilet area when slid back. I would be interested to lnow.
The sliding toilet trick requires twice the space of the toilet footprint. It’s not efficient you give up a lot of storage space in the spot where the toilet has to go hide during your shower.
I like it when you "get to the bottom of this" George.
With a name like Heavy Mass Vinyl it has to be good!
George, looks like your shower walls here are different than prior builds. What material are the two sides was made from? Do you plan a detailed video on how you put this one together?
Yes!
Your 90 Degrees wood square look great can you share a drawing of them
As soon as we can get around to it, we are going to offer them for sale to benefit pediatric cancer research.
Take a look at Broad Arrow 815 x 312 Double Glazed Acrylic Windows from Wilderness Vans. I used them and I think they are much better than the Lawrence windows.
Thank you, I will.
Hi George, you and your team do a cracker job. Thanks for helping me build my Toyota Coaster small bus RV. , not many Ausies use 3030, but I am loving the system. When I get a complement about my workmanship I just tell them to check out Humble Road, “I just see how George does it”.
Question, what glue do u use for Vinyl attachment, water based ? Thanks again Ron
good lord, such a beautiful build
Hey, George! Have you done any videos to show how you build the showers in your van (pan, walls, materials, etc.)? I'm sure others would be interested in that too. Thanks.
Yes I have
Thanks for sharing. Like 119
I've watched George from the beginning. Measure. From. The. Center. Of. The. Van! "Don't ask me how I know this." Of all his tips and lectures, do not ignore this one. (don't ask me how I know 😜.)
The tanks that sit on the floor and contour over the wheel well might be a good option to keep the CG low and open space above the tank for other installations.
The volume of those tanks is not adequate for some of my clients needs. And I would have to connect the two tanks on opposing sides of the van, not optimal.
hi George, if you can, would you share the brand and model of CNC you all ended up with? And do you like it enough to purchase it again? Thanks.
Another great video! What was the resolution with the Lawrence window?
I need to clarify that debacle. They were not Lawrence windows! They were proprietary Flarespace windows. I spoke with a rep from Flarespace, very helpful. We are going to try one more set, an exchange. And see if we just got a stinker.
I got away from that Aluminum.. It weights more then wood. And takes up space..Then I went to high density foam rubber in place of wood sub floor. As my wood was eat up with rot, mold and mildew..Then installed Pergo Flooring 10mm...That fixed that issue.. Then used 3M 600L insulation..
Yeah ...CR Lawrence windows require additional fabrication to fit, I fitted 2 sliders on my van and one of the inner rings needed half an inch shaved off! I also tossed their self-tappers, lined it all up, then drilled and tapped my own holes on the bench. Fitting was then pretty easy and they look and work great, so the design is fine, they just need to introduce some QC at the factory!
Sure, but that kind of modification would void the warranty. As a builder that’s a no-no!
Wise words of course, and I admire your resistance to making obvious improvements in order to protect your warranty position, especially with such a poor product. I’m free to assess and take my own risks, so as a DIYer, it was a yes-yes!
Good luck with CR Laurence ! It’s like trying to contact the pentagon and asking for the nuclear launch codes. Who knows though? You may get lucky. Good luck.
I have a old ford e250 coachman that I want to redo so my question is about what is the best insulation that I should use. the top of the van is fiberglass the sides of course is metal it’s a 1996 thank you I watch your channel all the time and your information is invaluable
As far as insulation, you could use a combination of Thinsulate and poly iso foam board. Good luck.
@@HumbleRoad thank you for taking the time to answer its much appreciated
do you determine the center line based off of multiple measurements along the body as it tapers..or...do you take an average along the length and make that the center? I had an old house a time or two..i could pick "level" or "plumb", but not both.
Several measurements along the full length of the van should give you center all the way
Gosh George, that aluminum bed frame is so heavy duty you could park a forklift on it! 😊 "When your van is rocking your bed won't be flexing" 😅
What is the material used for the shower walls shown? I began testing convection heaters in Bessie two years ago and am happy with it. Great minds think the same.
MDO plywood
I am upfitting my 2012 Roadtrk Sprinter and using 3" c-channel. My plan was to lie them flat, as opposed to on their side like you are doing. Is the way you are doing it stronger or??? I was thinking that I could use the cavity in them as a trough, but curious as to why you put them on the side. Any tips?
Yes, laying them taller is MUCH stronger. Having said that, unless you plan on very heavy load, go ahead with your trough idea. I have done that myself. Supporting the bed? keep in mind that all the C-channels work together to carry the load. Set them up and sit on the plywood. Make note of the flex and bounce. Should be fine.
Everything is square to the van deck, but being plumb assumes that the deck is level to begin with.
If the deck is level, how much does it go out of level when all of the weight is added during the build? The suspension must give a bit.
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As always, you could not have done better, George.
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Nice shower pan - custom? Or where can I find it?
Local custom
Are you guys located in California ? I have a 2023 Mercedes sprinter AWD AND looking for a builder
The Humble Road van studio is located "down the shore" in New Jersey. We build vans for people from all over the USA.
What’s the budget of this build?
More than an Airstream Interstate, but less than Advanced RV.
I have always thought what a shame to cover all that beautiful stuff 😊
Whats wrong with wood frame
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I’ve covered this question in many past videos.
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As before I enjoyed the video. My only peve is the bed. I just don’t like it. It’s too high. Any other design would interfere with the water tank and your battery/electrical/ heating system. So I fully understand why you do it that way and I acknowledge the usefulness of the garage, I just don’t like it.
Fair enough!
I assume the Reflectix is meant to reflect internal heat back into the cabin?
Always great design and content.
No. Reflect fix needs an air gap in order to work the Thinsulate is considered the air gap. Its fibrous composition merely slows the transmission of temperature change once that cold or hot hits the Reflectix it is reflected back up through the Thinsulate laying on the back of our ceiling panel, the reflectors does nothing for the inside of the van, in my opinion…
I came across this warning about CRL windows recently at one of their resellers: "The CRL VW1033 has had an abnormally large amount of quality issues recently. Nomadic Supply Company recommends the VWD OVR3310 Overlander Camper Van Bunk Sliding Window over CRL VW1033 bunk windows because the VWD OVR3310 Overlander Camper Van Bunk Sliding Window has a better rubber outer seal, has a better rubber main seal, a better screen and a much better warranty. Our Overlander window has a UV coated 3M weather seal, this provides better protection from dry rot and the elements of the standard sponge CRL uses. A thicker rubber trim is utilized on the Overlander offering a cleaner non-wavy appearance and better seal from debris and wind. Overlander features a screen that is inset into the framing of the window this keeps the screen tighter and quieter. The CRL insets on one side then overlaps the frame on 3 sides. On the outside there are two plastic turn tabs that hold the screen to the frame, this will cause rattling on rough roads. Warranty - Overlander offers a 1 Year Warranty, and CRL offers a 30 Day Warranty. Both are 33″ x 10″ Cut-Outs, Both are black frames and Solar Privacy Glass Overlander has a better UV filter at 17% allowable vs 28% allowable. If you are using these windows in our Flarespace Flares then you cannot use the Overlander, but if not, we’d strongly recommend the VWD OVR3310 Overlander Camper Van Bunk Sliding Window."
NovaKool has drawer freezer, refer units
Oy vey
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