A woman said make the mankind one, with no theory or even the notion of mankind stablished. Then a lot of dudes try it, justifying their stupidity, on the dying wish of a vague person that love killing and war.. Then David comes and fuck them all
Hes smoking LSA in wormwood, i was a dumb kid. Ive used it from morning glory seeds its not pleasant. The visuals are 2d if that makea sense. He is constaly being altered still , mentally. Ocelot from wormwood comes LSA. It makes time distort. Same goes for digoxin i was on it. It makes you disassociated as hell. Its good for brain trama I guess cuz it helped my recovery of memories. Ocelot and kaz know its not the real big boss at or before the time Huey is interogated. It shows in how they always clash. They are co existing like they saida at the end. Dont eat seeds to see thinga n get high. I dont endorse that. LSA is a kinda lre drug to LSD but its not the same. I did this 15 years ago in hs or college but long ago.
I like when Venom clenches his fist every time Eli refused to be helped up by him. Like Vemon is ticked that he's refusing his help and not trusting him and throwing his help away. Just goes to show how warped Liquid was from the beginning.
While Solid Snake at home learning to be a soldier, Liquid Snake is on the battlefield learning to be a soldier the hard way. Ruling a group of child soldiers out on the battlefield and then moving onto Outer Heaven where he's actually having 1v1 fights with their father, Big Boss.
dros27 I know, I just tried to keep the "spoilers" out of it since I've been screamed at by 7 year olds before because I included the whole 'Venom Snake is not Big Boss' thing.
everythingisfire Solid's first combat deployment was the gulf war. Other things are urban legends, Kojima never wrote anything about Solid childhood or teenage life
im hella confused, just finished a video about big boss' whole story, and it said mgsv main character is big boss after ground zeroes, but ur saying that venom snake and big boss are different beings, pls explain
@@katar89 let me explain it to you. In ground zeroes you play as the true big boss from MGS3 when you rescue Chico and Paz you can see that combat medic who was doing surgery on Paz in her belly there was bomb a he had to remove it without Anesthetics but when the Helicopter exploded you as Big boss with combat Medic were the true survivors but when you're starting the story of Phantom Pain you're playing as that combat medic because big boss was deeply injured and almost died you with big boss were almost dying so Zero had to brainwash you and make you look like big boss with hypnotherapy and thus Venom Snake was born complete and perfect replica of the big boss you're his phantom with same skills, memories and knowledge like big boss. I personally prefer the most with Venom Snake he's my favorite.
@@theclown2664Actually, in Ground Zeroes we play as a Venom Snake during his hypnagogic state, recreating the mission that the real Big Boss had. We are led to believe we are playing as Big Boss but that’s part of Venom Snake’s illusion.
Big boss: alright Miller you take care David and Ocelot you take care of Eli while I’ll be getting pack of cigars for 42 years have fun raising my bastards
Eli spread the parasites on mother base, murdered another child, kept trying to murder Snake, Ocelot and other staff, and yet they never thought of flatlining him.
“Never draw a weapon on a fellow soldier.” Maybe we all should have followed that rule considering how many times we’ve knocked out staff members for seemingly no reason lmao
NEVER BE GAME OVER. Liquid have a lot of cutscenes in MGSV. Kojima possibly hinted on couple of future Metal Gear Liquid games before that mess with Konami happened
Maybe it wouldn't work so well as a game. The problem with a series like "Metal Gear" is you have to include a Metal Gear in there somewhere. And that would create an over-saturation problem. The same could be said of the planned and cancelled game featuring The Boss - not to mention the anachronisms. I know that's never been too much of an issue in a silly series like Metal Gear, but it's not like we should be inviting and accentuating that problem. So, basically; Liquid, The Boss and even Solidus could be featured in some great stories about them as central characters. But they would have the baggage of that walking battle tank, even if they were to be featured in motion comics, cartoons or whatnot.
@@Aivottaja I don’t recall Sahelantropus or Shagohod being metal gears tho 🤔 you could use that opportunity to spin the series in a new direction, without having to fight them big ass metal tanks Liquid Snake with his Fox Hound unit have so much potential as a future series
There are at least two cutscenes missing in this video: 1. In White Mamba mission, Eli pins Snake to the wall with the chair. 2. Eli beats a Diamond Dog soldier at Mother Base and almost kills him. Ocelot beats Eli then.
Played that level after going through Twin Snake for fun... kicked unconscious Eli about twenty times before judo tossing him up and down the ship. Felt good.
Bruh, Ralph getting crushed by steel pipes was no accident. Eli co-ordinated it cause this kid was probably gonna rat him out. He saw him as a liability. Ralph is the protagonists name in Lord of The Flies. Young Liquid Ocelot is based off of Jack, the books antagonist. The writing on these games is genius, shame we couldn’t see this one completed.
Funny thing is, they're not even biologically related. EVA was just the surrogate; the egg donor was one of Dr. Clark (Para Medic)'s assistants. When this game first revealed his design, I honestly thought they were going to retcon it so that she *was* their mom. It hardly affects the plot (her not being the biological mom is only mentioned offhandedly in MGS4), and it'd be nice if their mom was someone we actually cared about.
It's likely that Eva used her own egg to birth Liquid while the Japanese Lady's egg was used to birth Solid, making Eva the real mother of Liquid while just being a surrogate mother for Solid.
@@Night_Dragon11was there a Japanese lady? Even back in mgs1, solid had blonde hair that he dyed brown so he wouldn't be mistaken for liquid. That took place during the pre-game mission briefing that most people didn't watch
@@aschlamishowsup Either Big Boss was a natural blonde himself at age 12 hence Eli's hair color or Paramedic gave everyone the wrong information about whose eggs they used and Eva's the real mom of the twins except for Solidus.
I don't know why they thought keeping him there smart to begin with, when they knew that he's opportunistic and aggressive. If you want to remove a kid from a cycle of violence, you don't leave them isolated on an fully-armed military base where the only adults they have contact with are active mercenaries LOL. Just toss the kid to annoy some foster (hopefully ex-military) parents in the States and get him some therapy or something. He'd still be a little brat, but a loved brat generally still grows up better than one who grows up thinking no one will ever care about them.
He literally survived the fall and explosion of a Hind D, falling from Metal Gear Rex and an exploding military car (I'm no expert on military vehicles)
What's funny is if you shoot Eli while you are supposed to extract him. He instantly falls down like a sack of potatoes, then the mission fails. Did it and I was laughing so hard.
No , you are wrong and you should feel very bad. His stand would definitely not focus on mental capacities like Mantis. His stand would be one that would focus on ambush tactics or deception. Did you even play this game or read Jojo? My guess is that you made you horrible assumption based off of bad memes
@@governmeharderdaddy596 yes I’ve played the game and I’ve watched up to part 4 of the anime, and your wrong, going by the fact that a stand is based on the physical manifestation of the user’s soul, it would likely focus on frontal attacks due to how conformational liquid is at this stage in his life, the deception develops more later in his 30’s
Isn't there more than this? I remember reading about a cutscene where Snake puts a gun with a single round in it in Eli's hand, forcing him to kill himself but then he's stopped by Psycho Mantis.
A. That's in the unfinished chapter that's an addon to the main story. B. He didn't put the gun in his hand and FORCE HIM TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE. He unloaded all but one bullet and left the gun there (which admittedly is still a cruel thing to do to a suicidal child if you KNOW that's what they'd do with it) C. Yes. There's more.
@@jokkepokke95 I mean the real Big Boss never cared about the staff on MSF, he just wanted to kill Zero. Or something along the lines of Cypher. So it would make sense that Venom acts like BB but he actually treats Mother Base like family.
It is strangely amazing you can tell he inherit Eva DNA more than David and George did, he have uncanny resemblance to Eva, specifically his eyes and blonde hair
He's not supposed to have any of her genetics, she was just a surrogate. Wish it'd be retconned though, she may as well have been his biological mother since he look so insanely like her.
All in all, Liquid was more of a soldier from early on than Solid. Because according to the tapes, David is still in USA. Liquid's already on his own in a foreign country and a war zone at that! And we already know he was genetically superior to Solid. Which means he had to have that whole "nature vs. nurture" thing dragging him down. According to Liquid, BB was nasty to him and told him he was inferior to Solid. But when?! According to TPP, he met Venom, who basically just told him he was "a hell of a soldier". And according to the real BB, he would treat the clones "like any other human being". So when the fuck did Big Boss say nasty words to him? Who told him "he was garbage from the day he was born"? This one last retcon struck a real nasty blow to Liquid. He's just the angry doppelganger now, despite no one apparently being that unkind to him. He's got no reason to be angry at Snake or BB in MGS , thanks to TPP :D
Aivottaja technically venom is not bb and he was most likely not even nice to him at all he had a change of heart after he was about to die in 4 not mg 1 and 2
Hes that way because he somehow found out the truth about himself, Maybe skullface or someone operating in cipher leaked that info to him, its not clear but thats what i think happened. Knowing that hes just a clone and a copy of big boss he feels like he doesnt have individuality, like no matter what he will always be a shadow of him and not his own man.
And (probably) thanks to a certain Japanese company which shall not be named we don’t really know why Liquid would even bother with going to Alaska to steal a nuclear-equipped walking robot when he already had gotten one for his sweet sixteen. At least the retcon on Otacon’s fascination for robotics can make sense.
Actually a large part of this was Ocelot and his love of brainwashing. BB never even met Liquid. Ocelot saw an opportunity for an attack dog in Liquid and he groomed him into that role subtly... and he didnt have fo fo much either. Liquid's delusions started to becoming more warped after he was tortured for years after being sold out by the UK in the gulf war- basically, he has his reasons for being deranged and jaded. But Ocelot sunk his teeth into him. This was kinda confirmed in tpp but moreso in mgs4. Tldr: Ocelot would rather use Liquid than have to deal with him messing up all his shit. Bc Liquid was actually so fucking powerful as an adult he can only be manipulated into doing shit
I just finished Ep. 23 not even 10 minutes ago, *_2:00_**_ minutes in_* and I'm already noticing a detail that blows my mind- • I aborted the Mission on my first run cuz I noticed I couldn't understand the children when interrogating them. *_I didn't have the Kikongo Translator yet._* so I went to go get him and came back, and Venom actually spoke to Eli *_IN KIKONGO_* when we finally faced off. Say what you will about Kojima and his Team, *_BUT THEY NEVER MISS ANY ATTENTIONS TO DETAIL._*
Psycho Mantis also really wanted to die in MGS1. Probably pulled his punches a bit to make it happen. My theory is he wanted to get to know Snake’s character by testing him, before letting Snake kill him, considering he was looking for confirmations or exceptions to his belief humanity is rotten, hoping to prove his own misanthropy wrong. Otherwise, he could have made Snake blow his own brains out as soon as he laid eyes on him.
That's unlikely to happen, because Konami is a little crazy now. And it definitely won't have Kojima working on it (that's not necessarily a bad thing, though).
mgs 2 is a masterpiece. it freak me out first time fight mantis, he read my memory card, knowing what game i save and vibrating my controller. i thought my game was haunted
I don't think Raiden would be even born at this time, considering Liquid's age, you can assume Solidus was also a kid at the time, maybe a little older (although he probably aged quickly like Solid)
The Les Enfon...The Terrible Children are older than Raiden. Raiden was a child soilder COMMANDED by Soildus himself during the first Liberian Civil War. Which was from 1989 to 1997. This, MGSV takes place in 1984. Its too early to be Raiden.
And it makes no goddamn sense he does. TPP showed neither BB nor Fake Snake AKA Venom was dismissive, unkind or nasty towards him. So, who told him he was the inferior one?
@@Aivottaja 4 years late . probably during his foxhound years??? i do know big boss went back to the us to train foxhound so it mightve been from there. mission 51 may or may not be canon but there venom instigates eli so probably also there. couldve also been lied to by ocelot or something
i honestly believe it was skullface, he mentions cipher in that deleted scene but i think he was referring to xof and skullface. He must of been the one that told him because major zero was sick by this point@@Aivottaja
its interesting to me, that if you closely look at Eli's face model and compare it to ground zero big boss face model, they to look eerily similar , either modellers closley studied big boss's model to make Eli's or simply edited a variation of boss's model to seem smaller and younger , truly a clone of the big man
All the double meaning to everything. Still catching little details today 18:00 I like how ocelot trying to control the boys when Shibanis necklace "fell" in the whatever it is. Seems like the one time he's not in control is where Eli or Quiet is around.
Im starting to wander about psycho mantis. Like maybe, he was the real architect behind shadow moses, and was it just me, or did ocelot not totally watch kid-mantis floating beside liq,err...eli, behing shalenthropus?
we're looking for the kids and sahalanthrapus, but theres still no sign of them....and i doubt there's gonna BE any sign of them, 'cause this game doesen't seem to be getting its last chapter...sorry boss, i know you wanted closure...
well hopefully if Kojima gets the rights, that were stolen from him, to the game he made, he might finish it properly or if (a big if) Konami can get it's act together, they might include it as DLC!
now that I think about it, miller should have been voiced by cam clarke, not the medic from TF2, because if he's going to impersonate miller he should at least get the same voice actor
I agree but it's just a plot hole because are if you played this game you would know what Miller would sound like and the reveal of Miller in MGS1 would be wasted because you already know his an impostor
Supposedly he's not supposed to look like Eva because the eggs for in vitro came from a Japanese lady, then again the Snakes don't look Japanese, their face structure is a combination of young Eva as Big Boss a if they were their natural children and not clones.
Like the fight against The Boss, I'm pretty sure that using anything other than CQC to beat Eli is against the spirit of things...you're just shooting him in the head with tranq rounds :/
Sooo was Liquid and Mantis boyfriends ooor? ....And if Mantis can levitate a whole Sha..ha..platypus, shouldn't he just be the Emperor of the world since always? I know, this is a universe where one little robot ninja can breakdance swing multiple Gekko and hold back a massive warship LITERALLY single handed. But still, seems extra powerful. Good thing no one in the 80s ever thought of switching controller ports...
I replayed the game and really wanted to get that cutscene but for some reason he got off his seat and walked away so i was able to sneak up behind him and slam him on the ground
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In the meantime David was playing with toy soldiers back in home
Did they ever explain how Eli got from the UK to the ass end of Africa? Or why he'd think he could beat a man wearing a tank suit?
He got kidnapped apparently according to the tapes then he escaped and started his own army.
i still wonder what he was doing in this game
A woman said make the mankind one, with no theory or even the notion of mankind stablished. Then a lot of dudes try it, justifying their stupidity, on the dying wish of a vague person that love killing and war..
Then David comes and fuck them all
Considering that Eli ended up as an Psycho, while David was an calm and chill guy, you can guess who had the most natural childhood.
When Eli was walking back, he took half an hour to walk 30 feet according to Venom's stopwatch
He's injured
Feeltheshadow 20 Injured but you can walk fast
Eli is liquid snake
Hes smoking LSA in wormwood, i was a dumb kid. Ive used it from morning glory seeds its not pleasant. The visuals are 2d if that makea sense. He is constaly being altered still , mentally. Ocelot from wormwood comes LSA. It makes time distort. Same goes for digoxin i was on it. It makes you disassociated as hell. Its good for brain trama I guess cuz it helped my recovery of memories. Ocelot and kaz know its not the real big boss at or before the time Huey is interogated. It shows in how they always clash. They are co existing like they saida at the end. Dont eat seeds to see thinga n get high. I dont endorse that. LSA is a kinda lre drug to LSD but its not the same. I did this 15 years ago in hs or college but long ago.
@@idlehour were you smoking some when you wrote this?
-Your brother never gave us this much trouble!
-Oh please, you've never even met him!
-Exactly
Damn!
That kid has one of the slapiest faces I've seen in a while
It must be our cursed genes dear brotha.
I can imagine Revy meeting with Eli. It’d be quite a show to see.
No you got it wrong. When YOU'RE the one HE'S going to bitch slap, YOU'RE the one with the- what was it? "Slappiest face"?
@@Superdarkcloud666 what lmao
After puberty his voice becomes slapable too
I like when Venom clenches his fist every time Eli refused to be helped up by him. Like Vemon is ticked that he's refusing his help and not trusting him and throwing his help away. Just goes to show how warped Liquid was from the beginning.
My brain is torn between "aw, he's adorable!" and "he has literally killed people". Goddamnit, 12-year-old Liquid.
It's like anime...
Order of the Nightwalkers Dude, the MGS series is an anime at this point
You found him adorable? I just wanted to watch him get his ass beat
ITS NOT JUST ME?!
@@bernieclinton9572 so youre gonna tell me hes not adorable? Are you braindead?
While Solid Snake at home learning to be a soldier, Liquid Snake is on the battlefield learning to be a soldier the hard way. Ruling a group of child soldiers out on the battlefield and then moving onto Outer Heaven where he's actually having 1v1 fights with their father, Big Boss.
Daniel GamingReturned except that’s not their real father. That’s Venom Snake
dros27
I know, I just tried to keep the "spoilers" out of it since I've been screamed at by 7 year olds before because I included the whole 'Venom Snake is not Big Boss' thing.
Daniel GamingReturned Actually, Solid Snake was a Green Beret at the age of 14. So he was one hell of a soldier at the same age as Liquid in MGSV.
Liquid's still a twat
everythingisfire Solid's first combat deployment was the gulf war.
Other things are urban legends, Kojima never wrote anything about Solid childhood or teenage life
So many Lord of the Flies allusions!
The Black Swordsman ikr
MGS5 version: Ralph dies
Yup. I just noticed from this video the conch.
@@LilyEmbargo and the pigs head on the table
kojumbo found a new book, it appears
It’s weird knowing that big boss is in America watching over David from afar.
What about George/Solidus?
@@captainvalourous6668 the patriots are raising him.
Whatever Venom tells him to do, he makes a point of doing something just slightly different. Not outright disobedience. But disdain.
The funny thing is that Venom Snake treated Eli with more love than the very Big Boss.
im hella confused, just finished a video about big boss' whole story, and it said mgsv main character is big boss after ground zeroes, but ur saying that venom snake and big boss are different beings, pls explain
@@katar89 let me explain it to you. In ground zeroes you play as the true big boss from MGS3 when you rescue Chico and Paz you can see that combat medic who was doing surgery on Paz in her belly there was bomb a he had to remove it without Anesthetics but when the Helicopter exploded you as Big boss with combat Medic were the true survivors but when you're starting the story of Phantom Pain you're playing as that combat medic because big boss was deeply injured and almost died you with big boss were almost dying so Zero had to brainwash you and make you look like big boss with hypnotherapy and thus Venom Snake was born complete and perfect replica of the big boss you're his phantom with same skills, memories and knowledge like big boss. I personally prefer the most with Venom Snake he's my favorite.
@@theclown2664 thx
@@theclown2664 not the same skill. Venoms skill comes from his medic days
@@theclown2664Actually, in Ground Zeroes we play as a Venom Snake during his hypnagogic state, recreating the mission that the real Big Boss had. We are led to believe we are playing as Big Boss but that’s part of Venom Snake’s illusion.
Big boss: alright Miller you take care David and Ocelot you take care of Eli while I’ll be getting pack of cigars for 42 years have fun raising my bastards
This man takes L's at a constant rate since he first popped up.
Hes pretty good at getting Ls
I mean... It's in his name
Eli spread the parasites on mother base, murdered another child, kept trying to murder Snake, Ocelot and other staff, and yet they never thought of flatlining him.
Hes the bosses son
@@mattbeckley9483 clone, but still
mgs1 woudn't have happened
@@thefallen2220 I hate when villains are Saved by Canon
I mean they did kidnap him and force him to stick around
“Never draw a weapon on a fellow soldier.” Maybe we all should have followed that rule considering how many times we’ve knocked out staff members for seemingly no reason lmao
Thanks for that boss!
NEVER BE GAME OVER. Liquid have a lot of cutscenes in MGSV. Kojima possibly hinted on couple of future Metal Gear Liquid games before that mess with Konami happened
Soknheith metal gear liquit...omfg 🎉one of my dreams...
Maybe it wouldn't work so well as a game. The problem with a series like "Metal Gear" is you have to include a Metal Gear in there somewhere. And that would create an over-saturation problem. The same could be said of the planned and cancelled game featuring The Boss - not to mention the anachronisms. I know that's never been too much of an issue in a silly series like Metal Gear, but it's not like we should be inviting and accentuating that problem.
So, basically; Liquid, The Boss and even Solidus could be featured in some great stories about them as central characters. But they would have the baggage of that walking battle tank, even if they were to be featured in motion comics, cartoons or whatnot.
Soknheith he clearly had massive plans for sequels but we all know what happened😂😂
I think Kojima was planning a Metal Gear game with Eli as the MC after the events of MGSV and before the events of MGS1
@@Aivottaja I don’t recall Sahelantropus or Shagohod being metal gears tho 🤔 you could use that opportunity to spin the series in a new direction, without having to fight them big ass metal tanks
Liquid Snake with his Fox Hound unit have so much potential as a future series
1:42 Liquid "I hate my identical twin brother."
Vergil: "I know the feeling. Have a chair."
There are at least two cutscenes missing in this video:
1. In White Mamba mission, Eli pins Snake to the wall with the chair.
2. Eli beats a Diamond Dog soldier at Mother Base and almost kills him. Ocelot beats Eli then.
Played that level after going through Twin Snake for fun... kicked unconscious Eli about twenty times before judo tossing him up and down the ship. Felt good.
Young solid snake at home playing with his solider and tank toys
Meanwhile with liquid:
Death and destruction
Bruh, Ralph getting crushed by steel pipes was no accident. Eli co-ordinated it cause this kid was probably gonna rat him out. He saw him as a liability. Ralph is the protagonists name in Lord of The Flies. Young Liquid Ocelot is based off of Jack, the books antagonist.
The writing on these games is genius,
shame we couldn’t see this one completed.
You mean Liquid Snake, right? Cause he hasn’t “fused” with Ocelot yet.
I just thought if something. With the way Liquid looks with his blond hair and us unbuttoned shirt, he really takes after his mom.
Maybe EVA's design was based on Liquid (although not sure if Kojima had that in mind)
Funny thing is, they're not even biologically related. EVA was just the surrogate; the egg donor was one of Dr. Clark (Para Medic)'s assistants. When this game first revealed his design, I honestly thought they were going to retcon it so that she *was* their mom. It hardly affects the plot (her not being the biological mom is only mentioned offhandedly in MGS4), and it'd be nice if their mom was someone we actually cared about.
Lets be real. Its Metal Gear. The plot, although great, is wildly inconsistent at best. We can just pretend like Eva is the biological Momma...
@@9ninrninr947 Yeah. A lot of video games with multiple sequels and prequels have wildly inconsistent plots. Just look at Kingdom Hearts
nojima is slowly making Eli/liquid the spitting image to big Mama/Eva. Eli's hairstyle here is exactly the same as Eva's in metal gear solid 4.
It's likely that Eva used her own egg to birth Liquid while the Japanese Lady's egg was used to birth Solid, making Eva the real mother of Liquid while just being a surrogate mother for Solid.
@@Night_Dragon11was there a Japanese lady? Even back in mgs1, solid had blonde hair that he dyed brown so he wouldn't be mistaken for liquid. That took place during the pre-game mission briefing that most people didn't watch
@@aschlamishowsup Either Big Boss was a natural blonde himself at age 12 hence Eli's hair color or Paramedic gave everyone the wrong information about whose eggs they used and Eva's the real mom of the twins except for Solidus.
5:48 took Eli 15 minutes to walk that far xD
Look at him waddle
@@codafett That was oddly cute
at a certain point they need to ask themselves if it's a good idea to train and keep the little sociopath
I don't know why they thought keeping him there smart to begin with, when they knew that he's opportunistic and aggressive. If you want to remove a kid from a cycle of violence, you don't leave them isolated on an fully-armed military base where the only adults they have contact with are active mercenaries LOL.
Just toss the kid to annoy some foster (hopefully ex-military) parents in the States and get him some therapy or something. He'd still be a little brat, but a loved brat generally still grows up better than one who grows up thinking no one will ever care about them.
Well at least he became the best villain in the franchise (yeah, even better than Armstrong)
Eli: Claims to be the strongest boy in the whole world.
Also Eli: Dies in just 1 bullet.
Eli 21 years later: gets unharmed when shot by bullets, missiles, and inside a Metal Gear explosion.
He literally survived the fall and explosion of a Hind D, falling from Metal Gear Rex and an exploding military car (I'm no expert on military vehicles)
What's funny is if you shoot Eli while you are supposed to extract him. He instantly falls down like a sack of potatoes, then the mission fails. Did it and I was laughing so hard.
Liquid managed to jump out of the hind with a parachute
You'll find most people die to 1 bullet.
Liquid as a Kid reminds me of Draco Malfroy
hahaha
He reminds me of Joffrey Baratheon.
Reminds me of Steve Fox from Tekken
Oh please. Malfoy wishes.
If Eli was a jojo character, psycho mantis would be his stand.
But then he would suck.
No , you are wrong and you should feel very bad. His stand would definitely not focus on mental capacities like Mantis. His stand would be one that would focus on ambush tactics or deception. Did you even play this game or read Jojo? My guess is that you made you horrible assumption based off of bad memes
@@governmeharderdaddy596 yes I’ve played the game and I’ve watched up to part 4 of the anime, and your wrong, going by the fact that a stand is based on the physical manifestation of the user’s soul, it would likely focus on frontal attacks due to how conformational liquid is at this stage in his life, the deception develops more later in his 30’s
@@governmeharderdaddy596 You must be very fun at parties
Isn't there more than this? I remember reading about a cutscene where Snake puts a gun with a single round in it in Eli's hand, forcing him to kill himself but then he's stopped by Psycho Mantis.
Jonni_Darko That's part of the cut mission 51. There's footage out there though.
A. That's in the unfinished chapter that's an addon to the main story.
B. He didn't put the gun in his hand and FORCE HIM TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE. He unloaded all but one bullet and left the gun there (which admittedly is still a cruel thing to do to a suicidal child if you KNOW that's what they'd do with it)
C. Yes. There's more.
@@Superdarkcloud666 Damn, big boss forced a kid to kill himself, that's pretty fucked up
@@jokkepokke95 I mean the real Big Boss never cared about the staff on MSF, he just wanted to kill Zero. Or something along the lines of Cypher. So it would make sense that Venom acts like BB but he actually treats Mother Base like family.
@@jokkepokke95 not really,eli was infected with the lungs parasite killing him would protect others, but bb give hin a choice.
21:46
*inside Miller's head,*
where did all my attention go ;(
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I have a theory that Liquid had interacted with the real big boss before. And thus assumed venom was him.
It is strangely amazing you can tell he inherit Eva DNA more than David and George did, he have uncanny resemblance to Eva, specifically his eyes and blonde hair
she is not her real mom
@@luiggiibanez I thought Eva is one of the DNA donour other than volunteering her womb to be used
He's not supposed to have any of her genetics, she was just a surrogate. Wish it'd be retconned though, she may as well have been his biological mother since he look so insanely like her.
10:00 Little did these three people know…
Would love a liquid game about him in the Sas and getting scouted by fox hound
Sadly not likely.
That sneaky look at quiets body 😂🤣
We’ve all done it tho, can’t lie 😁
All in all, Liquid was more of a soldier from early on than Solid. Because according to the tapes, David is still in USA. Liquid's already on his own in a foreign country and a war zone at that!
And we already know he was genetically superior to Solid. Which means he had to have that whole "nature vs. nurture" thing dragging him down. According to Liquid, BB was nasty to him and told him he was inferior to Solid.
But when?! According to TPP, he met Venom, who basically just told him he was "a hell of a soldier". And according to the real BB, he would treat the clones "like any other human being".
So when the fuck did Big Boss say nasty words to him? Who told him "he was garbage from the day he was born"?
This one last retcon struck a real nasty blow to Liquid. He's just the angry doppelganger now, despite no one apparently being that unkind to him. He's got no reason to be angry at Snake or BB in MGS , thanks to TPP :D
Aivottaja technically venom is not bb and he was most likely not even nice to him at all he had a change of heart after he was about to die in 4 not mg 1 and 2
Bro liquids insane
Hes that way because he somehow found out the truth about himself,
Maybe skullface or someone operating in cipher leaked that info to him, its not clear but thats what i think happened. Knowing that hes just a clone and a copy of big boss he feels like he doesnt have individuality, like no matter what he will always be a shadow of him and not his own man.
And (probably) thanks to a certain Japanese company which shall not be named we don’t really know why Liquid would even bother with going to Alaska to steal a nuclear-equipped walking robot when he already had gotten one for his sweet sixteen. At least the retcon on Otacon’s fascination for robotics can make sense.
Actually a large part of this was Ocelot and his love of brainwashing. BB never even met Liquid. Ocelot saw an opportunity for an attack dog in Liquid and he groomed him into that role subtly... and he didnt have fo fo much either. Liquid's delusions started to becoming more warped after he was tortured for years after being sold out by the UK in the gulf war- basically, he has his reasons for being deranged and jaded. But Ocelot sunk his teeth into him. This was kinda confirmed in tpp but moreso in mgs4.
Tldr: Ocelot would rather use Liquid than have to deal with him messing up all his shit. Bc Liquid was actually so fucking powerful as an adult he can only be manipulated into doing shit
Great upload, exactly what I was looking for thanks!
I love ocelots relationship with the kids
4:55 and that’s how Liquid take Venom’s words seriously right until the very end.
17:53
A child has died
Staff morale increased
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS OCELOT WOULD BE A GREAT FATHER OMG
Daddy Kale Would've been interesting if Ocelot had a son or daughter.
He was a good dog sitter (not)
He beats kids and is never around when it counts, yeah he is basically the standard American father.
Honshu Wolf Which version of Ocelot?
Yes.
"I told you, your father's not here."
That was good.
Eli is like the bad loser who refuses to acknowledge that he got hit when playing dodgeball.
You know he's gonna be a badass from his hair. Has a better 'do than Miller
Yeah he's liquid snake
Massive foreshadowing
"did you like my sunglasses?"
"Welcome to Outer Heaven."
Such a lust for revenge...
WHOOOO?!
🦉
I just finished Ep. 23 not even 10 minutes ago, *_2:00_**_ minutes in_* and I'm already noticing a detail that blows my mind-
• I aborted the Mission on my first run cuz I noticed I couldn't understand the children when interrogating them. *_I didn't have the Kikongo Translator yet._* so I went to go get him and came back, and Venom actually spoke to Eli *_IN KIKONGO_* when we finally faced off.
Say what you will about Kojima and his Team, *_BUT THEY NEVER MISS ANY ATTENTIONS TO DETAIL._*
David and Eli huh?
Your thinking of solid snake his name is David this is venom snake
@Marcelo Zuniga You like Star Wars and Metal Gear? Awesome.
This reminds me of that creepy scene from The Last of Us
Kept you waiting, huh?
"shut up snake your not my dad."
Technally he is
Eric Monaco technically he isn’t
@@isaacwoodward9611 Techally He is and Isnt
It would be funny if at the end, Kaz or
Ocelot said, “Kids...amirite?”
6:20
Don’t mind if I do..
if psycho mantis was this powerful
he could've snapped snake's neck in mgs1 with a thought
Psycho Mantis also really wanted to die in MGS1. Probably pulled his punches a bit to make it happen. My theory is he wanted to get to know Snake’s character by testing him, before letting Snake kill him, considering he was looking for confirmations or exceptions to his belief humanity is rotten, hoping to prove his own misanthropy wrong.
Otherwise, he could have made Snake blow his own brains out as soon as he laid eyes on him.
Don't you listen to Ocelot tape that he may be very powerful but he can be easily controlled by people if they wanted to?
african kids all over the ship are losing necklaces in toxic chemicals every day
im impressed, no one make fun at the part when Snake carry Quiet yet.
If i was Venom, i'd give this child tons of punches everyday
6:26 perfect
I'll be glad when they finally do a Metal Gear 1 & 2 Remake
That's unlikely to happen, because Konami is a little crazy now. And it definitely won't have Kojima working on it (that's not necessarily a bad thing, though).
Aivottaja It is absolutely a bad thing
mgs 2 is a masterpiece.
it freak me out first time fight mantis, he read my memory card, knowing what game i save and vibrating my controller.
i thought my game was haunted
Metal Gear Solid the Twin Snakes is kind of a remake to MGS1 and we already have MGS2 HD Edition
Yeah and make Venom die properly
20:37 how he pulled quiet out of there
Haaaaaa, the pig head Lord of the flies reference! Classic
And also the “conch” which Eli carries.
Well spotted!
the kid could also be Raiden since he was a child soldier in Africa qualified as white. but his accent just confirm it was Liquid
I don't think Raiden would be even born at this time, considering Liquid's age, you can assume Solidus was also a kid at the time, maybe a little older (although he probably aged quickly like Solid)
The Les Enfon...The Terrible Children are older than Raiden. Raiden was a child soilder COMMANDED by Soildus himself during the first Liberian Civil War. Which was from 1989 to 1997. This, MGSV takes place in 1984. Its too early to be Raiden.
Can't wait for the legendary solid snake story
eli (so liquid) always tought he was the weaker clone but in fact David (so Solid Snake) was the weaker one
And it makes no goddamn sense he does. TPP showed neither BB nor Fake Snake AKA Venom was dismissive, unkind or nasty towards him. So, who told him he was the inferior one?
@@Aivottaja 4 years late . probably during his foxhound years??? i do know big boss went back to the us to train foxhound so it mightve been from there. mission 51 may or may not be canon but there venom instigates eli so probably also there. couldve also been lied to by ocelot or something
He took him out of his home, broke his arm and never trusted him
That's why he killed everyone including Big Boss himself lol
i honestly believe it was skullface, he mentions cipher in that deleted scene but i think he was referring to xof and skullface. He must of been the one that told him because major zero was sick by this point@@Aivottaja
3:31 "Sir, please switch seats, that woman is pregnant!"
its interesting to me, that if you closely look at Eli's face model and compare it to ground zero big boss face model, they to look eerily similar , either modellers closley studied big boss's model to make Eli's or simply edited a variation of boss's model to seem smaller and younger , truly a clone of the big man
I like this kid. He gave me a chance to teach a brat how to respect elder.
Someone should teach you type full sentences without leaving out words.
How is the commander of a militia at like age 10 a brat lmao
Anyone else notice the 80's rock band reference in the name White Momba (White Snake)?
Have anybody notice when big boss talks to eli the first time if you have an interpretor of kikongo he will talk by kikongo. If not by english.
My terrible evil son... I love him.
I don't know if you're referring to Venom Snake or Big Boss, but either way you're wrong. Neither one is his dad.
@@Superdarkcloud666 but Eli and David and George are just big bosses dna infused with a Asian girls egg grown inside of EVA
@@theunlucky1326 That would make Eli a clone. Not a son.
@@Superdarkcloud666 a brother
@@benmorax Nope. A clone.
Not yet snake! Its not over yet!
snake is one beefy boi
Eli aka liquid snake is on the battlefield shaping himself but it looks like solid has the upper hand. Because the latter is busy playing MGS1.
Then Konami decided to cut out the episode everyone wanted to see
Great job
@Liquid Snake Liquid you should've say screwed over remember you have a British accent
My favorite character in all the saga X)
Liquid Snake liquid
All the double meaning to everything. Still catching little details today
18:00 I like how ocelot trying to control the boys when Shibanis necklace "fell" in the whatever it is. Seems like the one time he's not in control is where Eli or Quiet is around.
Aw, wee baby Liquid Snake.
The running camera in Phantom Pain is so intense. 😅
Your not my dad!
Technally he is
@@ericmonaco4509 Technically he isn't to this boss.
Im starting to wander about psycho mantis. Like maybe, he was the real architect behind shadow moses, and was it just me, or did ocelot not totally watch kid-mantis floating beside liq,err...eli, behing shalenthropus?
He reminds me alot of Ryuji Goda from the Yakuza series
MGS6 Could have been a game where you play through Liquids story before Shadow Moses.
How do you get the cutscene where kid mantis gives Eli the English strain I have never seen it in my play through?
we're looking for the kids and sahalanthrapus, but theres still no sign of them....and i doubt there's gonna BE any sign of them, 'cause this game doesen't seem to be getting its last chapter...sorry boss, i know you wanted closure...
well hopefully if Kojima gets the rights, that were stolen from him, to the game he made, he might finish it properly or if (a big if) Konami can get it's act together, they might include it as DLC!
We'll see the ending... in a pachinko machine.
Did you see the deleted chapter? Its on youtube, and its the actual ending
now that I think about it, miller should have been voiced by cam clarke, not the medic from TF2, because if he's going to impersonate miller he should at least get the same voice actor
I agree but it's just a plot hole because are if you played this game you would know what Miller would sound like and the reveal of Miller in MGS1 would be wasted because you already know his an impostor
Liquid pretending to be him did sound pretty damn similar to Miller’s voice actor though
@@turtleguymcturtle4303 considering the bad audio quality of the PSX, he sounds really similar to Miller.
Vergil: Out. You're on my throne
Yea he looks exactly like Eva
That Explains thd Blonde Hair
Yep
Supposedly he's not supposed to look like Eva because the eggs for in vitro came from a Japanese lady, then again the Snakes don't look Japanese, their face structure is a combination of young Eva as Big Boss a if they were their natural children and not clones.
Like the fight against The Boss, I'm pretty sure that using anything other than CQC to beat Eli is against the spirit of things...you're just shooting him in the head with tranq rounds :/
Jesus....there's not a single redeeming qualities with this kid...
11:41 Attack on Titan, much?
Guys, at 1:50, why did Snake speak in english? On my game he spoke in Kikongo or something
omar ramirez Because the player didn't have the African interpreter side ops done and you did
Konami stated that the Kingdom of the Flies extra isn't canon. Which makes the ending there a grade A plot hole.
6:23 Look at this DOod
It's terrifying to know that children can be *British.*
I just kinda bionic armed him, and I thought there was gonna be a cutscene or something but he just straight up jumped me.
Sooo was Liquid and Mantis boyfriends ooor?
....And if Mantis can levitate a whole Sha..ha..platypus, shouldn't he just be the Emperor of the world since always? I know, this is a universe where one little robot ninja can breakdance swing multiple Gekko and hold back a massive warship LITERALLY single handed. But still, seems extra powerful. Good thing no one in the 80s ever thought of switching controller ports...
I replayed the game and really wanted to get that cutscene but for some reason he got off his seat and walked away so i was able to sneak up behind him and slam him on the ground
Ocelot-Senpai! ~
😄😄😄😄
Daddy Ocelot*
I never understood why this game was left unfinished.
Things got complicated between Hideo Kojima and Konami (similar case as Koji Igarashi with Konami)
I hear next year they’re gonna release Metal Gear Survival.
I Wish they didn't
A lot of troubles could be prevented with a single shoot in his face, snake, just a advise xD
Yeah. But because nothing says "honorable soldier" like murdering an unarmed child by shooting him in the face out of spite.
@@Superdarkcloud666 My boy, snake wanted to use the kids as soldiers and liquid is a 13 years psycho, literally NOTHING in this context has honor
@@erikpinto12 So if your enemy doesn't have honor, it's okay to abandon your own to stop them?
@@Superdarkcloud666 relax woman
@@rokudaimekonoha9472 Adorable.
Does extracting the interpreter change dialogue?