Cyberpunks Legendary Rocker Boy - Johnny Silverhand | Cyberpunk 2077 Lore
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- Today we explore the iconic Rocker boy and proud activist known as Johnny Silverhand.
Who was he? What was his story? What were his ambitions and where is he now in Cyberpunk 2077?
This is the story of the Night City Legend known as Johnny Silverhand from Cyberpunk.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
1:48 - Early Years
7:19 - Fight For Alt
11:48 - Johnny's Death
18:27 - Johnny As An Engram
23:04 - Thanks For Watching
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EDIT: so it was the second Central American War not corporate war. Stupid mistake on my end there!
Hope you guys all enjoyed this dive into another one of the Legends from Night City. You’re breathtaking for watching it!
You're breathtaking 😏
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Extremely well done my friend
There's a few other errors as well; first off, when Johnny talks about the friend that sacrificed himself for him, he was referring to the owner of the dogtags, meaning Robert John Linder, who "gave up his life" so Johnny Silverhand would live. An interesting detail (error?) in that is that the blood type on Robert's dogtags are different than the blood type listed in the ripper clinic that Johnny wakes up in after the 'saka ambush where Alt was taken. Secondly, Arasaka never used Soulkiller on Alt, it was Johnny that killed her, according to Alt herself, who claim Johnny's flashbacks have no relation to the truth. In the lore, Alt had already done a number on Arasaka when Johnny arrived, having stolen 20 million eddies, taken over the building's defenses and turned it on Arasaka, and killed their Netrunners trying to stop her, by the time Johnny arrived she was basically 8ug8ear in that Gig, screaming in cyberspace to not disconnect her, which he did unknowingly, severing her connection to her digital ghost and killing her body. If Johnny had just stayed the fuck out of it, odds are she would have gotten away on her own at that point.
Additionally, Yorinobu stole the Relic not to confront Saburo directly, but to sell it to Netwatch (though exactly what Netwatch was offering him was never clear). If you take down the Netwatch agent in the GIM and get hit by the Voodoo wammy, you can read on his laptop a fractured message from Evelyn, talking about Netwatch specifically wanting Johnny's engram, not the Relic in general (likely for the same reason the VDBs want it, for baiting Alt), which seems a bit of a weird stretch for him to go along with just to provoke his father, and potentially piss off Netwatch if he didn't follow through. Yorinobu's purpose was always to go against Arasaka and destroy it, to "become bomb" as he puts it in the Devil ending. Saburo meanwhile needs the Relic itself for his own reasons, again as seen in the Devil/Arasaka ending, Johnny's engram is unimportant to him, and was just a means of transportation from Mikoshi.
@@Sacremas THANK GOD, this made me understand why Johnny's engram exit, the purpose of creating that chip with a volatile personality as johnny's
Alt specifically states that Silverhand's memories are not accurate. The documentation on the Relic you get from Helman also implies that no Engram is ever a perfect copy of the original person. Spider made an Engram of a dying egomaniac. So it's easy to imagine that his Engram had several memory gaps that were filled in based on Johnny's personality.
It is shown in the game, it glitches out when he originally passed alway, but someone, somehow edited so he thinks he escaped, truth is, he didn't, probably Arasaka messed up with the memories to extract information.
@@Rrgr5 Also the scene where Silverhand is confronted by Saburo is possibly a representation of Johnny's Engram being interrogated after he was recovered by Arasaka.
However I wonder if someone else had edited Morgan Blackhand from Silverhand's memory before Arasaka acquired his Engram decades later.
I think the game developers are just lying and totally forgot that they needed to make the game’s story match the lore.. or even be internally consistent for that matter
@@VidelxSpopovich I mean the creators of cyberpunk were behind 2077 so I don't think it was meant to be inconsistent because there's many sources that point out Johnny's misrepresentations of memories
@@Snoozytube The creators of Cyberpunk have not confirmed any of these theories and in fact at least one of them has outright said that Johnny IS correct but also that the lore hasn’t been changed.
A fun hint that Johnny's memories are being coloured by his ego is his gun - in his memories it's a one hit monster, but once you get it, while its a good gun... it's not the same.
I had previously viewed the 3516 once V got it as one of Johnny’s older models. Mike Pondsmith has stated in the past that the latest variant was chambered in an equivalent of .577 Nitro Express which is possibly the one Johnny used in the Arasaka raid.
That being said, the idea of Johnny’s ego making it out to be much stronger than it really would be is a lot more amusing thematically speaking so I’m sticking with that from now on lmao
@@GabrielIgnacio If you rack up the head shots Rogue starts complimenting Johnny - weird, because how very absolutely clear she is that she's very, very annoyed at Johnny. I view that as another Johnny ego thing.
Honestly for lore that’s a great theory, but in game I think they did it for balance
In the scene where Johnny shoots Toshiro, he is holding the Malorian in his meat-hand, even though lorewise the gun is supposed to be so powerful it requires a cyberarm to use without breaking your wrist.
These "mistakes" (like Johnny's memories of fighting Smasher on the rooftop) might be indications of Morgan Blackhand's memories being spliced into Johnny's engram. I don't think the changes and discrepancies are entirely ego-driven, since engrams aren't like flesh memories. They are simply digitized copies of memories. When Johnny was Soulkilled, the program would have only copied his memories AS THEY WERE at the time of his death. In my opinion, something else is happening here, and if you follow the tabletop lore, you'll see a lot of Morgan's personality and other traits in 2077 Johnny.
For example, in all the ttrpg artwork, Silverhand is clean-shaven, while Blackhand has stubble/beard. Yet in the video game, Johnny "remembers" himself with a beard. That could just be another Blackhand-intrusion upon Johnny's spliced engram, just like him using his right hand (the hand Morgan had chromed) to shoot the Malorian.
@@theeffete3396as far as I know Johnny refused to shoot with his cyberarm because he thought of it as evil. He blamed his arm for many bad decisions he made even giving it the name „The Hand“ which is might even true because he was at early stages of cyberpsychosis.
The more of these I watch, the more certain I become that most end with, "and then Smasher killed everybody".
Johnny's story in CP2077 is so interesting knowing that damn near everything he says and we experience through him is a lie he made up for himself to cope better.
Damn*
I don't think he made it up I think it's from deterioration from the process he was the prototype after all
@@mateohodge6998 yes more likely a recreation not just lying intentionally
@@mateohodge6998 so that's why he thought it'd be cool to say "Impressive cock"
This story may be even deeper. The Night Corp and rogue AI's, Alt being a literal noone knows what, some weird things behind the Black Wall, very sus bartender in konpeki plaza. It is all connected, but we miss the pieces of the puzzle. It all may be a prelude to something realy big. Or not. But it is more fun that way, imo.
Honestly I like to believe that both events on how Johnny died are somewhat canon on what happened, since the first one was his interpretation of the events in his point of view, while the rest was other information that Johnny left out in the memory. It’s the main reason why we don’t see Morgan black hand with him when he’s confronting Adam smasher.🤔🐱
Wait why wouldn’t he want us to know that blackhand was with him? Silverhand and blackhand would’ve been a great band name lmao
His memories were edited, you can see a glitch just after he passed alway in the official version, then somehow he magically scape from smasher running up the stairs and somehow smasher magically appears on top of the building, that was pretty much a false memory implanted so he could be torture by Arasaka and used as a lure for Alt, he was soulkilled when Murphy hits him with the chip, also there is a line in which Greyson said just how, Arasaka indeed retrieved the chip from Murphy's case an that's how they have it an why it doesn't work so well.
You wouldn't have seen him with Blackhand anyway. They were a part of two separate teams that hit Arasaka tower at the same time.
When Jackie used the relic, it did nothing. The relic doesn't work unless you die. Jackie took it out before he died, v didn't.
Thank you
Jackie didn't have the relic in him for more than a few minutes. Wouldn't have been enough time to do anything. Also, since it would be in Jackie's head and not V's, who's to say that Johnny wasn't trying to make himself known, but Jackie was too occupied with escaping and dying to notice or mention it.
I read somewhere that Jackie would still die due to blood loss. V survived because the relic repaired (and tried to take control of) his/her brain.
The Relic originally existed to communicate with an engram stored on it. Due to V getting a bullet to their brain it started malfunctioning and taking over their brain. Only if Jackie didn't remove the Relic upon his death it would do the same
Imagine a DLC or a different version of game where Jackie is the one that dies and gets revived because of the relic
Cyberpunk has to be one of the games with the most intriguing lore out there
When Johnny shows you the dog tags, they are Robert Linders. So when he says that the guy had to die so that Johnny could live, i took that to mean that Linders died so that Silverhand could be 'born' also seems to make sense with what lore I've read regarding Johnny deserting. And its also a popular literary trope.
I always found it weird that Johnny mentions that the dog tags were his friend's, while they're actually his. now it makes perfect sense!
Robert Linders, the soldier, who we can assume was at least an idealist and thought being in the army was a good idea, had ''died'' after finding out the true nature of corporations and how closely they're tied to (if not controlling) the military and politics, so he had begun his crusade as Johnny Silverhand. thanks for your comment, man!
giving the dog tags to V IMO means that he still has some semblance to his past idealism, and wants V to hold unto it and never change for the ''worst''.
They actually mention his time serving in the Phantom Liberty DLC
A couple corrections:
-Johnny didn't "start" the Rockerboy movement. That credit goes to Rockerboy Manson, the guy the movement is literally named after. Samurai were merely a very popular Chromer band.
-Aldacaldo is not Santiago's name, it's the Nomad tribe he belonged to. His name is actually Trace Santiago.
On point with your first correction
But Trace Santiago and Santiago Aldecaldo are different people, Trace is Santiago and Rogue's son
I was just about to see if anyone made the Rockerboy Manson correction lol
Neeeeeeeerds!
No shit! I was born before Johnny Silverhand! I’m 10 years older than that kid!!!
Totally just maxed my street cred!
It also means his story is more tragic, he was a teenager when he went to war, 14 or 15 years old, being born in November of 1988 and going to war in 2003. A child soldier.
Wasn't the war where Johnny lost an arm the second central american war, not corporate war?
Oh bugger! Yeah it is thanks for the correction!
@@WiseFish no problem m8, rest of video is solid, keep up the good work
PLEASE, do as much of this lore as possible, I'll be here for all of it.
In the mission ‘Chippin in’, Grayson tells you that Johnny died “covered in his own piss, brain scorched by soulkiller….”
So he probably didn’t get one shotted by Smasher.
Grayson was not there, no way he knew anything
The official story is that Johnny was cut in half by one shot from Smasher and in his last minutes of brain activity Spider Murphy soulkilled him
This version seems to be true as many years later, by 2045, some mercs discovered Johnny's corpse and he looked exactly like I described above
I find it hilarious that Adam Smasher would give away a kickass hand cannon, but keep a vintage compact sports car for himself as if he could even fit in a Porsche. That dude would have a hard time fitting into the back of a cargo van, let alone the driver seat
Perhaps Smasher, only kept the car as a trophy of sorts, to remind himself that he was the one to kill Johnny Silverhand. Whilst giving up the Malorian to Grayson, because a fully borged out guy like himself is already equipped with heavy weaponry. So won’t need Johnny’s gun, compared to a more flesh than chrome person like Grayson.
in the original lore, Smasher was surprised at Johnny's balls for attacking him head on with a peashooter like the malorian...
He used it as a skateboard.
I think Johnny died inside Arasaka tower his last true memories were the moment he got shot by Adam Smasher in the office but the one who got shot in the arm and got captured might be that of Morgan Blackhand's memories.
Mr blue eyes could be Morgan taking over some dead body because in game file they label Mr blue eyes hair as Morgan's hairstyles. Or.... Morgan died but a Powerful rogue AI took over his body. Either way, Johnny's memories aren't 100% trustworthy and the status of Morgan is still a mystery. DLC might explore that aspect...
Developers recently said Morgan won’t be in the DLC unfortunately but added that even he couldn’t believe who does show up.. which makes me think maybe Jackie?
@@VidelxSpopovich I saw posts that Mr. Blue Eyes can be seen watching you and Songbird at some point in the DLC. Makes me wonder more on the theory that he's secretly Morgan
God damn bro. As a brand new fan to the whole cyberpunk genre in general. The game alone definitely doesn’t do johnny enough justice. Like this man was fr just a demon for no reason other than to spit in the corpos face💀
Same as a lot of the other characters in Cyberpunk. Their backgrounds are insane compared to the game. Still cool but yeah
One of the people that helped bomb Arasaka, Shaitan, apparently doesn't take jobs unless it's against arasaka specifically nd even changes plans just to be able to cause collateral damage to the Corp. Homie is fully borged just to fuck over arasaka😂
Anytime I hear someone say Johnny's memories are lying I ask them "and yours don't? Tell a great memory you have from teen yrs, now ask your mom and best friend to tell the same story you'll get 3 different stories every time"
You are 100% correct. Every story about past events will always be distorted by the beliefs, interpretations, level of understanding and motivation of the person telling the story. The colective interpretation of these stories by a nation state creates something that tells a glorified version of history. The more a story about a brave person who has done something extraordinary and for this has gained respect and admiration is retold the more the story becomes a legend. This is what happened with Johny he became a legend a person larger then life. Everyone retold his story and many people aded their spin on it. The events presented to us are an idealised „legendary version” of Johny Silverhand.
The most fascinating thing for me is realizing that V is not one person but multiple.
I appreciate that this is a culmination of all the information I've had to pick up myself through various videos. This is an excellent recap for those that are barely getting into it
Johnny is the "Lovable asshole", he is straight to the fact and most of the time asshole, but like V said, he kinda grows on you after a while and actually have the heart at the right place, although really rough and passing it off pretty rude to you.
As an anarchist myself, Silverhand has to be one of my favourite portrayals of anarchists in media. Too often they are presented as overly naive and well intentioned hippies, and even more often as mindless terrorists who just want chaos for the sake of it.
Johnny is a lot more believable, an inperfect individual who both cares (maybe even too much) about the injustice around him, while also being quite egocentric and wanting to play hero. He wanted to make the world better while also making himself feel better, and he tried doing so by pacificic means such as protest, performance and music, until he was so desperate and depressed he became openly violent.
He is not romanticized, but he isn't demonized either.
He certainly fits the ideology; understandable, but necessarily a trainwreck with no potential to improve the world.
@@PatGunn that's a very cynical vision of anarchism, but I can understand it.
I personaly think it might be imposible to achirve, but wanting to achieve it and trying to make our world a bit more democratic and fair is a very possitive thing even if we never reach the utopia.
At the end of the day, we owe many of the rights we enjoy today to the sacrifice of anarchists, like the Chicago martyrs, who fought and died for the 8 hour work day we now take for granted, for example.
"...make our world a bit more democratic and fair..."
Which is it? Democratic, or fair? Because you can't have both. Democracy is essentially mob-rule, which is decidedly UNFAIR for those it votes against.
A Fair society is one that gives everyone equal opportunity and a right to live however they want, regardless of what the unwashed masses think.
Democracy is a poison to a fair society.
the problem with being an anarchist is eventually you stop being fourteen years old :/
@@jcanal0221Only one thing is worst than an anarchist, a nihilist. Shame on you.
Just finished the Gangs of Night City video and I'm on to this one!
Appreciate you watching the CP videos my dude :)
You should've mentioned his cyberarm was manufactured by none other than Arasaka. Rather ironic.
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You really are doing an excellent job with these lore videos. Very well researched and very well told, a pleasure to watch :)
Just started watching your videos, starting with the full Cyberpunk lore.. amazing writing and amazing video’s! Thanks for making these, subbed ❤
Well done as always, Sir! One might even say breathtaking! o7
amazing video! i love deep lore keep doing moreeee!!!!
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I always love that Johnny changes the story and makes himself look like the hero lmao.
Incredible. I remember hearing that the story from the game wasn't the story going around so I was interested to see what happened. Great approach to the story and lots of amazing information, for sure. Well played!
What about when you first meet rouge in the afterlife and she starts talking about how you leave a trial of bodies, and V says that she watch jhonny die right in front of her on the roof” she never corrects it and says that’s not what happened. Also vik tells kinda the same story when you first learn of jhonny engram. Interesting to see how CDPR plays this.
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Very interesting video. Thanks 😁
Seeing the old Cyberpunk 2020 artwork does this old TTRPG player’s heart good.
These are dope coming back for 2.0 and lib fresh play through
Another great video about Cyberpunk. Hopefully you do a video about the Weyland family. Very interesting group of people.
If you look down and left while talking to saburo in the soul killer sequence, Johnny has his arm back
As a Houston man, I love that Johnny was an Aggie lol😂😂🎉🎉
I had no Idea he was from my hometown. That's cool.
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While the theory that Johnny’s memories are fabricated may be plausible, I still believe that they are actually true. It’s clear that the in game universe diverts from the original board game story somewhat. I’d also like to point out that every character you meet in 2077 recognises that Silverhand was responsible for the bombing of Arasaka tower, whilst never mentioning Morgan Blackhand. It seems CDPR are yet to even touch Blackhand, I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw him in the next game.
From what I've seen, Mike Pondsmith isn't entirely sure where he wants Morgan's story to go following the bombing so he probably didn't want to have to write around the games lore later on.
I mean, pushing it onto a dead Rockerboy might as well be a disinfo campaign that took hold in 64 years
Angel is Alt in a new body
Please cover the Exosquad
The 90s TV show?
@@WiseFish yep
Right as wisefish said they deserted Walk by pantera came on my playlist lol
You gotta love that johnnys original story is so threadbare that cd projekt red needed to fucking steal morgan blackhands story and pretend it was johnnys attack on arasaka and that johnny died like a cool guy and not bisected hy a shotgun standing in the open like a idiot
😂 Jack Masters is a really dope name for a record executive
Any plans on a Rache Bartmoss video?
what lifepath would line up with Johnny best im tryin to do a Johnny sliverhand run through and curious to which lifepath would be best to start out as?
My theory is that the memory we see of Johnny being Soulkilled is actually the memory of Blackhand being Soulkilled.
Time to party like it’s 2023
I loved the vid, and has nothing to do with it, but damn did johnny and smasher have taste in cars and guns.
Been watching your series wanted to know if you're gonna do a play true or walkthrough of cyberpunk you're self
Johnny was definitely an Ingram in his in his flash back. He died in that room not on the roof but his ego made him believe he escaped and was interrogated. Tho I remember something about soul killing enemies tgen getting as much info from the data. I wonder if that's what happened to him. They messed with his memories.
👍 be blessed
You know what day it is
When he started rambling about life I would call him Johhny Silverspoon.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Never Fade Away
Good job with this video. It was great! Could you, please, make another NC legend video, where you talk about David Martinez?
That would just be a synopsis of the show.
Any chance we can get a Jack Entropy video next? :)
this would be known as a good video
I had to start over 2 times after playing all the way threw the game beside the last main mission cause I like to do all the side missions and everything but it bugged both times on the gigs were they dont show up beside the bugs this Is a amazing game
Say what you want about Johnny, the geezer had GAME!!😂 pushed alt away in the end but when they were alive she was hooked😂😂 also I knew he was a bad-ish character, by the way he changes with you as a character if you play it the way I did! Just wish I knew more about his nomad phase!
THEY SHOULD DO MORE DLC ON THAT!!!!😂😍
What lifepath would Johnny count as sense we don't know much about his youth would it be Corpo cause he joint the war or would it he Nomad cause he joint the Nomad Clan?
Johnny Silverhand thinks you're breathtaking. However Johnny Silverhand doesn't think you're quite as breathtaking as Johnny Silverhand 😂
the best thing about the game
You can really tell how much 'nam influenced this worlds lore
I thought the uploading process only occurred once V died
Susan forrest or weyland boa boa next please
Your voice is hands down the sexiest thing I have heard in years *nohomo
Johnny is a really interesting depiction of how everything, including resistance, gets commodified under this dystopic capitalist future. His resistance to capital is completely controlled by the corps he's fighting against. The inaccurate depiction of events we see on his flash backs in 2077 are an idealized version of events, as if Johnny cant be honest with himself and doesn't realize his "revolution" was completely coopted by the corps. He's a bit of a poser, he sells himself as a revolutionary all while being a pawn in the fight between arasaka and millitech like most mercs. Something that is completely left out of his idealized version of events we see in 2077.
love the lore
there's way too much bass and treble in your vocals though . less production on it would be less harsh on the ears imo
3 days until phantom liberty: I'm 99% sure blackhand won't be in phantom liberty, Despite being my fav character. Hopefully time will prove me wrong.
Can you cover David Martinez next
With the accent I really thought you were saying Robert Linda not Linder 😅
Hold up... Johnny Silverhand's an Aggie!?
Oh shit
Silverhands story is sad and tragic… he in a way was a forgotten legend. Didn’t accomplish v much had more ideals than actions unfortunately.
Son of a bitch who never gave up is fitting for him. Great character tbh
what is that chill song at the start of the lore after the introduction?
nvm its called bells of laguna bend
Johnny is basically if Elvis Presley got burned by the government and corpos
1 QUESTION REMAINS UNANSWERED: why didnt arasaka just kill silverhand? why keep him alive on a chip?? tf?
Prob just needed a test subject they could experiment on without having to feel too much remorse
In the year 2077, the world had changed a lot. The corporations had become even more powerful, and the line between the real and the virtual world had all but disappeared. The only way to survive was to be fast, smart, and ruthless, and that's where our protagonist, Ash, came in.
Ash was a skilled mercenary, hired by the highest bidder to take on dangerous missions in the city's darkest corners. She had a reputation for getting the job done, no matter what the cost. But one day, she received a job that would change her life forever.
The job came from a mysterious figure known only as "The Hacker." The Hacker had a reputation for being one of the best in the business, and his services were highly sought after by the corporations. But he had a secret agenda, and he needed Ash's help to carry it out.
The Hacker had discovered a way to access the virtual world, a place where the corporations stored all their
...all their what?? Can't just end it there!
Rocker boy johnny is the most baddest mf you'd ever want to meet
I wish they would just destroy that damn chip so that way none of this crap happened and V could live his life
Is it just me or does the name Samurai really not fit with Johnny. Sure it’s a cool name.
But Samurai’s are pretty much warriors under a master. So wouldn’t ‘Ronin’ be better?
Kerry was the lead singer not Johnny
Bro please understand "within" is not just another word for "in" in any given context. For example, you can't be *within* a relationship, but you can be *in* one.
Adam blew his hand off. Then they put it back before soul killing him? I don’t think so.
Yeah, the entire scene with Saburo Arasaka definitely never happened.
[*spoilers*]
I have a contrary opinion. Saburo says that the dead never lie, what's more we know Johnny reasonably has the skills to do what he said he did. Being the world of corpo lies and deceit I feel that the version where it was all blackhand is actually the lie since militech nor arasaka would like to admit a rockerboy stole the show as it were. After all in the end where you let Johnny control V he solos arasaka tower. Johnny is no saint, and he deserves the majority of bad opinions levied at him, however it doesn't change the fact that even when he was trying to find alt and soulkiller with the virus rogue only thought he was after fame trying to upload some bs. So maybe a lot of his good intentions and moments get outshined by, "oh, Johnny would never do that."
If Johnny was born in 1988 and playing in a Samurai in 2003 he would be 15 years old. Meaning he lied about his age at around 12 or younger, fought in a war, lost his arm, came back, got a cybernetic arm formed a band and then at the ripe old age of 15 the story starts to pick up.
This seems fishy.
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But seriously, Johnny’s story is so interesting. Thanks for going into it and letting us see who he was and can be.
y'know, with the government and everything taking away rights left and...right. makes ya want to party like its 2023 eh?
Oh yes... Keanu Reeves.
Has anyone ever mentioned that the way you pronounce Sandevistan is infuriating?
So Johnny is full of shit? How did he end up dying in Arasakas captivity? If he was never involved why would he of been there.