Part 1 of Campbell Police Chief Tim Kelemen Confession
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- Part 1 of Campbell Police Chief Tim Kelemen Confession. Confessing to possible felony identity theft, possible witness intimidation in a federal case, lying to police investigators...and just plain being a low-life dufus.
Part 2: • Part 2 Campbell Police...
Last fall members of the La Crosse Tea Party conducted a rally on the pedestrian overpass in the Town of Campbell Wisconsin as part of the national Overpasses for Obama's Impeachment movement. The town enacted an ordinance shortly afterward to prohibit any signs, flags, balloons etc. from within 100 feet of an overpass.
The unconstitutional ordinance was presented and pushed by Police Chief Tim Kelemen. Activists from around the state and the country came for a rally on December 7 in defiance of the ordinance and video taped the police chief's inept attempt at enforcing the ordinance. (He issued 4 citations, but never even asked anyone to stop displaying their sign or to leave the bridge). If the ordinance was really in the name of safety, he was endangering motorists by not removing the flags, signs and even an 8 foot wooden cross.
A federal complaint was filed by the Thomas More Law Center for plaintiffs Greg Luce and Nick Newman. The pressure appears to be too much for Chief Kelemen, as you can plainly see in these videos.
Scott Johnson Town Chairman 781-6840
Bob Wolfert Utility District Supervisor 783-7747
Pat Post Health, Education, and Welfare Supervisor 781-2197
David LaFond Streets and Road Supervisor 783-5107
David Wilder Park and Rec Supervisor 781-1676
Just because someone is a cop, doctor, teacher, a priest, etc., OR has a position of authority, it DOESN’T mean that they are good, honest people. There are bad people in all walks of life, but when someone of authority breaks the law and breaks trust, it’s very scary and disheartening. I’m glad he was caught!
Love the armchair interrogators criticizing the demeanor and method of the onscreen interrogator and not acknowledging how much he got out of the chief lol.
I think I agree with you. The key to being a good negotiator and interrogator is to establish a connection with the subject by reading them, apply that data to gain the trust of the subject, and get them talking. A confession is great, but for sentencing, its very important to understand the why as much as the what.
Tea party takin out liberals one at a time
@@HeetXS Tea party boomers aren't taking out anything but Big Macs.
@@bonchbonch you have to be so careful when you joke with these people. I asked one question about trump's bronzer and the wild birds nest he calls a hairstyle. I was immediately contacted by a 75 year old lady who threatened to kill me after she said I was " an obama loving butch lesbian who is jealous milania won't sleep with you since she doesn't participate in sinful behavior". Do you know what it's like looking out your window for a woman to pull up on her motorized scooter and kill you with her cane? It's horrible. Everytime I drive past a car driving twenty below the speed limit in the fast lane I automatically think it's her
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Acting dumb, taking the chiefs side, and putting down the victim, are all tactics to get the perpetrator to feel safe, open up, possibly brag, and slip up and admit guilt. The interrogator isn't nervous at all, its an act.
I'd love to do this job.
It was a gas for 18 years......except for child victims.
@Jason Knox Thats why you always ask for a lawyer, innocent or guilty
And we all know that legally the police are allowed to lie to you. They can tell you that your lie detector failed even if you passed. No lying should ever be tolerated on either side. If it makes it harder to entrap a suspect then so be it. No one should be able to lie.!
Kevin Johnstone it’s a good tactic but there’s a problem with that too which is unrelated to what’s happening in the video
If an innocent person who was a witness or at the wrong place and right time and they say something accidentally because they try pushing the one they interview into admitting they were part of the crime or anything so once in awhile people can end up in jail who are completely innocent because they got confused and didn’t know how to talk to cops or detectives the right way...you can believe it doesn’t happen but it does but like I said it’s unrelated to the video it’s just interesting that innocents can do time and be innocent lol
Me too
If you're a cop, and you're "afraid" of someone recording you, then you're probably doing something wrong.
You’re DEFINITELY doing something wrong. Imagine working in a retail store and telling your boss that you’re afraid of being recorded. The only reason is if you are taking shit.
Notice how he doesn't hesitate to lie and say that he knows nothing about the situation.........not even for a second. I wonder how many times he's done something like that on the witness stand.
If any of us did that we would have been arrested on the spot.
He lies for a living... it's old hat for this guy.
Watch closely. His body froze when the topic of the conversation moved into that area. That was quite unusual. He was usually waving his arms around prior to this. You can also notice that he said "Do I know anything about that? No I don't know anything about that." He was verbally dodging the question. He also changed his voice tone from the initial conversation slightly higher. 3 Red Flags = Time to dig deeper here. Personally if I was sitting in front of him I would expect a fear micro expression as well. Perhaps anger. Cudo's to the interviewing detective. If you want a person to confess, say their words back to them.
@David Santosuosso police protect and serve the government.
@David Santosuosso
You mean the police who would harass your ass then lie on the witness stand and say it was all you and get you sent to prison while he's off committing some other crime on some other citizen. A bent cop is a bent cop end of. Only difference is this guy got caught you could tell that he is used to lying as he proved the moment he was asked the question about him harassing a citizen. He said no certainly not me lol yeah right he suddenly changed his tune once he knew his usual lies was not working.
You may be all for bent cops harassing the public but most people with half a brain cell c
Are not for that kind of thing. When your stitched up by one of these bent cops I'm sure you'll have a different view then. Yeah of you would. Never say never it could happen to you one day, police planting drugs on you or harassing you I bet you would have plenty to say if the show were on the other foot. As for calling people f'ing losers PMSL the only one chatting crap is you on this blog. Go chat you rubbish somewhere else
Smh...
doh
Guess my parents were wrong... According to this Officer, 2 wrongs "DO" make a right.
There is something very immoral about a law enforcement officer breaking the very laws that they took an oath to uphold.
William Ko Not to mention, there's something very immoral about police officers being investigated by their co-workers. That's like letting the pimp investigate the prostitutes.
***** if that was the truth the cop would be the pimp and we would be the prostitutes.he broke the law.
***** its funny how if we break the law we go to jail, if a cop breaks the law he get/she just gets fired.
Craig Cain No, I still think the cops are the prostitutes because they're being paid by us, the Johns, to dominate, abuse, and bend us over. Their superiors and Internal Affairs are definitely the pimps.
As for cops breaking the law, yeah, at most he gets fired, and even that takes a miracle. Usually they just get the standard additional few weeks paid vacation that year. It's pretty obvious why they're rarely ever found guilty of breaking any laws. It's tough for them to break a law when they can simply make them up as they go.
I agree.
The detective here did an amazing job setting up the interrogation. He made it seem like a casual sit down meeting and once he flipped into the accusatory stage he fed into the asshole's ego which leads to a perfect confession.
Yeah I had a question about that. I assumed they were questioning him under garrity but I didn't see him sign anything. They couldn't of used this in court without his rights. Maybe to hand over to criminal investigators and then they would question him under Miranda rights? I know he's police so I'm sure he would of pounced on them not reading his rights.
@@ericadender4069 Garrity only comes into effect when you are sat down and forced to answer questions. If you are under Garrity, you have to answer questions truthfully and honestly or else you can be fired. But any answers given under those circumstances cannot be used against you criminally.
Here it seems to be a consentual encounter where he is not under any obligation to answer, but the detectives are able to get so much information from him.
@@nono-qi4ox you are correct. It protects federal employees, usually just police, from being pressured to make a statement by their boss to implicate someone commented a crime or they will lose their job. That violates their right to remain silent. Anything you say under garrity will not be used against you as evidence for a crime. Like you said they could be fired and if you say you committed a crime they will alert criminal investigators to start an investigation. What I didn't catch was they never said they were questioning him. It was just a conversation they recorded under the impression of a meeting. Very smart move indeed. Thank you for clearing that up for me. I must not of realized they never told him he was being interrogated and we're just having a conversation. I'm so used to watching these things and I never caught it. That's the exact reason I am only a professional pretend youtube criminal investigator and not a real one.
Please stop desecration the flag my brother marines gave their life for. 1st batt 3rd marines Charlie company. Get that pos blue line off there please. Iraq (fallujia) and ramadi,, khandahar Afghanistan. Please stop with the red lines the blue lines leave it as is. Its sacred..
It's quite telling that the most nervous person in the room is the guy that is doing the interviewing.
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rogerthecabinboy2012 YES.... I think I was very specifically perusing through the comment section to see if, and who, would share that very opinion with me 🤘🏾🤜🏾👍🏾
No that's just a strategy used by the FBI and other high level intelligence agencies. It's psychology. Being agreeable and hesitant puts everybody else in the room in a position of authority, and they don't feel threatened. Look at how much he got out of this guy. Imagine if he came in the room swinging and talking about breaking laws and people are in trouble. He wouldn't have got a word out of anybody. Instead he got this guy to admit he was breaking laws on tape.
right! to sheriff-
@@NikoBased Yep. They do the same thing when the question pedos. You have to let them think what they did was ok so they keep spilling the beans. When interviewing cops it's a bit harder because they know the game.
"I'm not denying I did it" After claiming to knowing nothing about it.
COULD BE A DEFENCE TATIC ..MIND GAMES
This chiefs a real piece of shit.
He’s a poLIEtician.
Again, there's something inherently wrong with the idea of police investigating the police.
Who else should investigate lawbreakers?
@@sondrajean955 I'd say the government. But they are equally corrupt
sondrajean955 citizen over site committee for all law enforcement matters
Yeah I thought that's what internal affairs was for.
That’s internal affairs job
14:20 The lies begin to explode... "we seen the mouse moving from the guy hacking our computer... i had to buy $500 firewall". Oh dear, Mr Policeman hasn't been researching hacking for his story.
A regular citizen would have been cuffed up and thrown in jail immediately after the interview...
Mark - exactly. They are practically apologising to this guy for bringing him in. It's wrong.
"This guy will TH-cam you..." He's a dangerous man.
John Allen 😭😭😭😭
If you are a cop who is afraid to do his job on video, it's probably because you are doing illegal things
@@afaegfsgsdef don’t agree. I am not a cop but work in gov and had to give evidence on a recorded trial - knowing it would be scrutinised all the more def made it worse / added pressure.
@@dawnguard6472 I guess added pressure is more important the actual whole truth then....
"I didn't think I was doing anything illegal."
"I swear I didn't know she was underage"
"I thought it was my apartment!"
You sound like you have experience
Stayvun Schmeeda
“...but it was really just her mouth, cuz she’s down with the ATM (Ass-to-Mouth). She’s definitely not the most attractive partner I’ve had. Holy shit does her breath staaaaank!! “
Its a damn disgrace this guy is a Police Chief, if he will do this, what will he do? How many people has he put away on lies?
What does that even mean? If someone will sign some asshole up for emails he'll do anything else? Nope, the mere fact that he did something as harmless as that instead of anything else proves you wrong.
Don’t respond if your not smart enough to understand the question please.
He complains how harassing getting these spam emails at work are, real bright, thanks for making our case.
"It doesn't matter what the law is, it's whatever he wants it to be" says the cop breaking the law in revenge , priceless
Well, they called us a poopy head, so like, we called them a poopy head back, and Sgt Muffin left a flaming bag of poo on their door step. What else were we supposed to do?
chief there is NO reason for your officers to worry about being recorded unless they break the law
It went from:
"they are gonna mop him up (meaning Madison lawyers)", "no I don't know anything about it"
to:
"I'm not denying I did it"
Guy in the middle, asking the questions, seems young and nervous. They should have used someone who didn't know the guy, who wasn't intimidated by him.
i don't think he knows either of them.
he did his job well and got the confession.
He's being used by the PD to minimize the impact and use him as a sacrificial lamb. He's a junior and afraid to ask tough questions because the old brass would harass him and make his life hell.
This dudes vocal fry is killing me
That absolutely drives me crazy too! The very second he started talking in the beginning , I was already cringing. It is so annoying!!
Thanks for letting me know what this is called. It's been a pet peeve of mine for as long as I can remember.
same. I don't even care about this video anymore because his voice is THAT annoying
@@jlew6185 y’all are weak
The cop wasn't smart enough to use a VPN when creating the fake accounts Lol 😆
Majority of people who were already done with school when computers/laptops were in every house and classroom don’t know how technology works. That idiot Chris Delia was sending stuff on Snapchat that would ruin his career (and did) and he thought there was no way the message or picture could be saved. The video of him finding out on camera live during a podcast is gold. Fuck that guy, hope karma gets him.
Curious, What's a VPN and how does it work? How would it have benefited the police chief?
Whoever the "victim" is in this interview must be an important man with friends in high places. For a police chief to be investigated and reprimanded is incredible and shocking. Not saying it's wrong or right just shocking.
What's ironic about this is when he was complaining about supposedly filing a complaint & was told, "there's nothing we can do about it."
Cops tell that to actually victims every day. "Sorry ma'am, we can't do anything about that stalker unless or until they actually (kill you) do something."
3 times in 11 months, I was assaulted by 2 men, who, because they'd done shitty things to me, and I called them out, I got battered, police did nothing, they tried chargin me three times on the first case. What the hell are they for??
I'm crippled with depression right now, can't get help, as they'd be called if I was thinking of checking out, so I've no avenue to be talked down.... Worse still, attemppt MURDER was bandied around, I'd done nothing except swerve and avoid hitting some idiot who stepped straight in front of my car, as he didn't look first.
Police have only gotten more savvy in the ways of using funds for stupid things, like upgrading 999 call centres, and systems, invest in an emergency crisis call out unit. Police do NOT know anything about how to treat someone vulnerable.... and if they know they are, they bully them, so they don't have to work, or expose the fact that they botched the entire cases. Jeez.
We're doomed.
But.... knows sod all about malware programs, knows exactly how to change hard drives.....
Hands up who thinks he's got two?? Same IP though. We're doomed.
How did he as a cop not know that inputting someone's information without written consent is identity theft? 🤣
It isn't
Notice that the cops knew about this chief doing this harassment for months and did NOTHING. The guy filed a complaint in Jan or before. This Chief was admittedly still harassing him in March and he has the nerve to say "I went to the police and they won't do anything."
if your officers are afraid of being on youtube then mayb they shouldnt be cops
I vote this as BEST comment! So so so so much truth in that one Eric!
Eric Lux they know that...before. Strange.
Eric Lux yeah they will look bad when the video starts half way
@Kevin Mitchell more cops like this guy that broke the law??? Wtf. Are you an idiot? Cops are public employees, paid for by the public, works for the public, everything they do is available to the public. Bodycams, dashcams, policy, police records, arrests etc. So why is it a problem filming them while in official capacity? The only reason they wouldn't want to be filmed onto the internet would be because they are doing illegal and unlawful stops/arrests. We need good cops and chiefs that are transparent to the taxpayers, good cops and chiefs that will report unlawful or illegal behavior of other officers. Police ENFORCE the law, not make up laws and do what they want and break the law. A cop has NO AUTHORITY over a citizen UNLESS he commits a crime, like the chief did.
Or maybe, someone going about their job should be allowed to do so without being molested by some dickhead youtuber
New word, getting "TH-camD"HAHAHA,LOVE IT.
My officers are afraid of getting youtubed!
Wait.... he can't be a real Police Officer, Police Officer's never lie! They are the most honest people alive. LOL
YOU break the law and you're a "bad guy".
A COP breaks the law and he's STILL a ..."good guy".
Get used to the double standards and their hypocrisy. It''s NOT getting any better and, in fact, is getting worse.
*Citation needed.
btw if you dont break the law you 100% will be a good guy. so maybe just dont break it...
@@tpeti1995 some laws violate our rights as humans for the most part if I'm not hurting another person or their property leave me the fuck alone.
@@ance2264 then stop being a crybaby and deal with your life. There are laws and rules in life. That's what makes us different from being animals. Its not that hard not to break them..
@El Salvador cry :'(
"It was my case initially, but I didn't do any work on it and it got sent up thru the ranks".......that cop should also be charged
He knew what he as doing was criminal. That is why he lied in the beginning and claimed he didnt know anything about it
Put him in G-Pop
26:45 he realizes he’s toast!! This the sigh and silence as he realizes he’s not talking his way out of this. Love it, such sweet irony as I’m sure he’s gotten off doing that to people for years. Acting like he’s a victim 😂😂
Somebody was in our computers. Yeah that was us doing our investigation for this case.
Wow. Imagine being that detective. Tough position, interviewing your boss (I'm assuming they're in the same agency/pd). Guy being interviewed shouldn't have a badge. I know our chief told us he could put up with a lot, but not lying.
I once caught my own sergeant trying to pull out of his driveway in the early morning. I knew he was loaded (I saw him weave his way to his car from a block away)so I had to threaten him with arrest if he left his driveway .AND I was still on my 18 mo. probation. He later apologized to me & said he intended a 2 hr. drive & I did the absolute right thing. Whew!
When you're so insecure...you force a deep voice.
Know this from experience do you?
Brad Stephenson when you’re so insecure...you become a cop.
Vocal fry
Theranos
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Why do people use that line for individuals who definitely do not have "absolute" power? Absolute power is like a king, queen, or dictator that doesn't answer to anyone above them.
Lafayette Cohee to certain people like this , there are people who don’t use power to be corrupt. If you don’t have humility when you have power it will end badly for you
Dox Holiday we know what they meant , he or she might not really know what it means “ absolute power” but ur right allot of people do that
commonsense your president is going to jail!!! Lol.
Absolutely powerless does just the same
His fear of TH-cam is quite ironic..
Sounds like a clear cut case of revenge here boys! Wrap it up. :)
LoL revenge isn't against the law numb nutz.
@@csb772 eat them boots boy.
@@csb772 shame on you brainless dumb ass
Revenge is totlay against the law.
@@tinktheartist50 not necessarily
I like how the 1 gutless guy keeps saying he knows nothing and it's the other guys investigation almost apolegetically
arthur curry it’s the blue wall at its finest
You're slow
ghost in the darkness they are friends if he shows he was involved he will be ostricised
The main investigator is just an honest cop
I wouldn't call what this office did classifies it as harassment I'd call what this officer is admitting to is retaliation and abuse of power. He's acting as Judge Jury and Executioner taking matters into his own hands. I am incline to not believe is story about not having no one to go to when if a crime is committed they them selves tell us all the time they are investigating. he could have investigated who was hacking his computer. He's not a professional he's just a jerk with a badge I've known officers who made sure crimes by others in their departments were dealt with properly. he's just power hungry and deserves to loose his job for assuming and by his own admission chose to retaliate against someone reporting on the front lines the behaviors police are in violation of while in the course of his official duty as a public servant. If he is so good at his job he wouldn't be worried about any one of the public filming him because he would have nothing to hide. This is what corruption looks like... Blame your victim of the crimes you've committed with no proof your victim did any thing you claim he/she did.
"I'm a straightforward guy" don't pay attention to my first blatant lie of course 🤣
I love how the guy in the White shirt at first makes out like he ain't involved .......🤣😂😅😄😂🤣😅😂🤣😅😂🤣😅🙉🙈🙊🎭👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
" I'm not denying I did it" Yes doofus, that's exactly what you did. Gotta lot of respsct for WHAT cops do, but from personal experience the power gets to 9 outta 10 and that's if they joined not looking to lord it over the public. You do the math.
It is amazing how this officer is deflecting away from the fact that he is a criminal. Complains about everything to throw smoke to try to hide the real reason for this interrogation.
No he isn't. He's getting payback on some asshole
An eye for an eye, camera for camera. If it's ok for police to record me for their safety then dont cry if there's one pointing back at u. If a cop pulls someone over & does his job professionally then you dont have nothing to worry about
he acts like alittle kid..."nobody ever sees what he's doing to me and my officers, " "im going to have egg on my face"..."this guy signed ne up, im going to sign him up". this is my favorite "he was having people cont-act the police dept. WHAT A LITTLE KID!!!
The cover up is always the worst. You lied to the investigator, Tim, and now you have to pay.
not if he's a cop. He didn't have to pay.
Judging by these comments it's clear most of you have no idea about interrogation techniques. These investigators got this corrupt cop to sing his ass off. 99% of interrogations, the ones doing the interrogation appear to be your friend to get you to sing. Have you ever heard of TH-cam? There are lots of interrogations on that website....
Finally! Someone on TH-cam actually making a sensible and well thought out comment. I never thought it would happen in my lifetime (wipes away tears)
The police chief pleaded no contest to misdemeanor harassment. This is about the charge anyone doing this kind of immature stuff would have been charged with. He got 40 hours community service, diversion, and mental health counseling. He was forced to retire on mental health disability with his pension. What he did was stupid and criminal but there seems to have been some stupid behavior on both sides,
The detective did what all good interrogators do - lull the suspect into a false sense of security that you're all buddies so he implicates himself. He did a good job. For all of you who seem to think that the best way to interrogate is a suspect is bring out the rubber hose...well, I can tell how much time you've ever spent interrogating a suspect.
He was convicted of a misdemeanor, retired in disgrace as a police officer, got 40 hours of community service, 2 years probation, and mandatory psychiatric counseling. Other than that, he never even got punished.
Do you have evidence he was harassing and terrorizing citizens his entire career? If you watched the video, he admitted to the investigator that he had had been harassing the Tea Party people. Without some evidence he committed a lot more or more serious crimes than what was found, stripping him of his pension after 25 years of an otherwise blemish free career seems a little over the top.
I agree that he shouldn't have received his pension. He's a bully. Too many whack jobs like him out patrolling the streets.
Hmm armed with guns but afraid of cameras lol
Not a good way to start out with a lie. The investigator doesn't even say a word about the officer's lie. Police shouldn't be investigating Police!!
After watching this video, I feel that I can now trust cops. LOL!!!!!!!
The chief says he's been hacking our system's email. Notice how the investigator doesn't ask, how do you know it's this guy? Chief says, we've had death threats, notice how the investigator doesn't ask to see them?
If he went crazy because of “harassment”, then he should not be in law enforcement, much less the chief of police!!
When you get old it’s common place to go “Oooooohhhhheerrrrggg” when sitting down
I taint Mistaken yo 🤣🤣HAHAHAHA, I literally had a flash of my Grandfathers, Uncle’s and older relatives doing that very thing, lol...It’s so true😂😂😂
he signs him up for queer sites
Except there is more to the story…Nowhere, nowhere, does any law enforcement charter, mission statement, or regulated authoritarian document does it say the the police have any hand in punishment.
The chief used his work computer - used it as a police chief to punish a citizen of the United States. Nothing justifies it.
He can claim frustration, but the police are hired to deal with many frustrating events and as chief, his job is to see that things are accomplished ethically and with integrity no matter how frustrating.
He told his Sgt. what he did. It would be a miracle if the Sgt. didn't tell the patrol officers. He is making it possible for his officers to step outside the bounds of their jobs.
You have a fool for a chief and he doesn't understand his leadership position. He is probably not going to step down…which also shows his misunderstanding of his position.
Nothing justifies his action
Wow! Maybe there IS hope for improving the interactions of the police w/ people of color.
So wheres this going guys? So wheres this going guys? So wheres this going guys? So wheres this going guys?
Room full of law enforcement officers that dont seem to be interested in actuality enforcing the law.
Yes, quite a chat...criminal mind, justifying every action. Liar
the cop illegally used his position as a police officer to get that guys info and use it to cause damadge
Tyler James I hate auto correct
@@Carpenters_Canvas Use edit post
He should run for president!
This goes to show that people need to pressure the departments to get them to apply the law to one of their own.
this guy is a police chief and talks like a valley teenager
"Treyyffic"
Excellent observation Sir. People are judged by the words they use. This Chief probably thinks that his language and Clint Eastwood type behavior will make the interrogators scared.
Walter you sound about stupid enough to be a cop yourself. Thank god for today’s bodycams and people please always film the police. Put a forward dash cam and a hidden one towards the rear of the car. Paid off to the tune of 40 k for our camera pointed back towards the police car. I can tell the story in 3 years but may have someone else leak it out.
Foul Mouth.. 0 class
That cop can't put a sentence together. Great interrogator.
He's brilliant.
hey, Einstein... there are 3 cops in the room.
OR did he actually pull a Columbo on him. Remember how he would be leaving and then stop and turn around and say, "Oh, before I forget, one more thing" and then he would ask a dumb question like are those petunias in your garden? Whatever the answer was, he would then know the person did it and he would come back with a warrant. But he always had a reason for every question. The Interviewer used Reid Interview & Interrogation School 101. That's why he told him I actually know you had something to do with it when he first lied. Trust me, works everytime. Ask yourself this, what other possible information could he have gotten from the Interviewee. He never even got to the interrogation part, the guy spilled his guts. The only thing more the Interviewer should have done was acknowledge that he was initially deceitful during an official internal investigation and it would be part of his report to the DA. If an officer did that, he would be automatically terminated. Better to say nothing than to lie.
the town of campbell wisconsin and the parents of tim kelemen should be ashamed of themselves this is disgusting
"As law enforcement, you and I can't just go do a drive by, or slash someone's tires." Hmmm telling.
I just checked out on the internet to see if this guy was charged and it looks like they charged him for unlawful use of computerized communication which carries a penalty of a $1,000.00 fine and 90 days in jail. It doesn't say if he has served a sentence. I did see where they say he was retired. These guys always get away with doing evil.
The investigators referred it to the DA as felony identity theft, but the DA only charged him with that misdemeanor. He was given a "deferral agreement" which was if he finished his year of probation it got expunged. He was allowed to resign without being fired. And the city signed an application for a special disability program saying he incurred duty related mental issues from this situation. He now receives about $60K a year tax free "disability" for life.
If he wasn't fired everyone in room should be.
Not at all surprised that a corrupt cop would refer to civil rights auditors as nutjobs.
Hope that work/home laptop (city property) was documented as being your home computer. Plus obstruction at the beginning of the convo...not good.
using a computer for a crime is a whole separate charge right
“ yeh it just sucks that a chief of police I can’t exact revenge on a citizen....geez just so shitty.”
This Law Enforcement Chief deserves all the law enforcement he can get.
Breaking your oath , lying to your own officers . No big deal right? “Come on guys what are doing here?” Problems with your stolen laptop from work? “I can download spyware” slow down big guy! That’s some advanced computing!!
Ultimately allowed to resign on ill heath grounds, full benefits, two years community service and treatment for depression (something like that). So sacked basically but with a golden handshake!
If he committed the crimes of "felony identity theft, possible witness intimidation in a federal case, lying to police investigators" then why was he able to plead to only misdemeanor harassment charges and walk away with a nice settlement and disability bonuses?
"Where are we going with this?" Nervous, officer?
The incompetence of police, all of them, is mind blowing
If you really want a laugh ,turn on the captions while viewing this video..WTF?
Oh no. Cops are afraid of TH-cam. They must not like being videotaped for some reason.
The Chief is now doing what many criminals do- blaming his criminal actions on someone else. The Chief first lied to investigators, and he has wrongfully accused Greg Luce of harassment. He used his position as police chief and his police computer to victimized Greg Luce and now he is trying to do it again, this time in the media. Greg Luce has exercised as much restraint as possible in light of being faced with these utterly false accusations. It is not Greg Luce's fault that the Chief chose to violate the law. The Chief should own up to his actions instead of trying to make nonsensical excuses for what will probably be the basis for his future workman's compensation claim."
Exactly Fibro dad. How many episodes of COPS did I watch where the criminals say, "Those aren't my drugs!" "These aren't my pants!" "I'm driving my friend's car!" "I didn't do it." And well lookie what we have here. The chief is doing the same thing!
Fibro Dad - UK Fibromyalgia Who cares!!!! He signed the guy up for junk mail! He didn’t murder him! Quit acting like you have never done anything stupid and petty! I seriously cannot stand hypocrites!
I take the chiefs side. The action was childish and he should be more professional. Its so easy to make this mistake. Just giving a name and email to a newsletter to give someone a hard time. It's not like he took out a credit card. He didn't steal a social security number. The website I am sure didn't have any warning about identity theft like others do. Give the guy a break as a chief he could have done a lot worse.
@@robmullin1128 i am not a Cheif cop.
@@robmullin1128 In the United States you have a Constitutional Right to be secure in your identity. That means that no one is entitled to have your private information or to use your private information without your permission. This is identity theft and a violation of the Gramm, Leach Bliley Act.
So if someone signs me up for stupid junk mail from organisations we could careless about,it’s illegal?
In the State of Wisconsin, yes.
25:26 He says he doesn't have a vendetta for the guy..... oh really and thats why he went out of his way to dign the guy up on the computer and access private information....HE IS A DIRTY COP WHO ABUSES HIS POSITION AND AUTHORITY LIKE MOST OF THEM DO>
+232323C I agree, the UK police are always slyly checking up on their neighbours and friends and even total strangers their friends ask them to check out. How do I know? They brag about it, especially the female officers. They use it to check up on internet dates. Apparently they see a lot of pedo's they've already dealt with at work on these sites. I was told this as I made a statement about something totally unrelated! I wasn't impressed at all.
+232323C I totally agree!!!! Cops think they can get away with anything!!! Most of them do! It really sucks! We are guilty until we prove ourselves innocent! That is not justice! Giving one person more time than one that did the same thing and get off!! Cops aren't really doing what they are supposed to do!! He knows he is guilty!! So what he makes more excuses than called for!! Jerk!!
He deflects every question and makes it about how he has suffered just like a true Narcissist
I can't believe this guy was in his 30s at the time. He looks like an old man. I once had a boss like him. He was early 40s, but he looked 60. He wasn't fun to be around
Lol
damn
I have people tell me that I'm in my 30s and look like I'm in my 50s
30s? No way!
He lies about involment immediately ,then claims later he came right out and came clean. He's crude , he's a liar , typical immoral low I.Q. cop with above the law attitude mixed with paranoia , this is formula for committing felonies on innocent people or killing people .
I hope if I break the law, this investigator questions me. Kissing my ass and apologizing for me the whole time.
sarasotafilms you can't aggressively go after a police chief. He had to play the beta male role to get him to talk. He got a confession so yea, alas well that ends well
That is the recommended technique.. at least one phase of it anyway. Disarm the suspect psychologically and let them believe you are on their side and find some ways to make them believe there was a reasonable justification so they will agree and admit the crime. I think he did a very smart thing with his interrogation.
Read up on the Reid Technique of interrogation.
sarasotafilms just oneTactic. tricks and tick tacks..taco and a cola etc.
As long as you keep on confessing like Tim did , he`ll keep on thanking you dumbass.
When they say “ let me be straight forward” means they know you’re guilty and that’s when you waive your rights 😂😂
it's annoying how theyre talking about what he did and he keeps interrupting with "where are you going with this?" etc, several times. like, shut up, you're not in control of this interview.
He's whining about harassment and intimidation , that's rich 😊
The irony, he is now on TH-cam.. lol
Soooooo, 2 wrongs make a right? That what the chief is saying. Grow up!!! Oh my god ur getting horrible emails and messages. Aren't you supposed to be professionals??? Chief acting like he had no other option but to get back at that big bad bully!!
Amazing ! It's they dude's fault the Police Chief stole his identity...
My hypothesis, is that all police officers were fired from customer service jobs, or Burger Kings..... Paid serial killer, road pirates. These are the gangs that terrify me the most.
This is the perfect example of an officer harassing someone, even off duty. Scum
ya but the guy fully deserved it
Playing the victim.
When cops take an oath the are supppoosed to hold themselves at a higher level vs. Schoolyard behavior.
Investigator 'Um' .. is SOOO annoying to listen to.
Yeah this crime is identity theft and this should result in charges being filed against this pathetic excuse of a law enforcement officer. His boss should also resign. When he hears what his officer did no one drop of outrage,
Is this Campbell county Kentucky
Where are we going with this guys? 🤣🤣
The guy in the white shirt obvs has a issue with being part of investigation. All he has said so far, is that he went away, came back and this was passed on to his colleague. So he hasn't got anything to do with it! It's like he's scared to do his job! Pointless!