Sealion's plans called for them to to use tug boats as main landing craft with raft behind them as the Germans had vary little landing craft and they did not make any because they were only prototypes
0:00 - _German cinema newsreel "Die Deutsche Wochenschau" shows propaganda-material of Wehrmacht-Troops landing in Great Britain during the Operation Sea Lion, March 1941, colorized._
Well... a succesfull invasion and victory over GB would have been bloody to say the least. And it would have taaken time i guess it would end in a horribly weakened germany getting steamrolled by stalin in summer 1942
If D-Day was lost, nothing would change really, Germany was already collapsing to the Soviets, and the Italian Campaign was succeeding for Britain. But it could end up making Places like France Communist, and etc.
England is a very hard nut to crack militarily but they are extremely paranoid about spies and terrorists so you could tear them apart from the inside, like what ISIS tried to do. It is the fact that the United Kingdom as a whole lives in a stable but precarious situation. United they are invincible to everything but if you reignite old wounds they beat each other senseless
The only way they really could have pulled it off would be if they had wiped out the British at Dunkirk, invaded a month or two later, and gotten very, very, lucky.
I see you live in the north South Germany has 40 Celsius in the Summer and beautiful snow in the Winter!!! GOTT MIT DIR DU LAND DER BAYERN DEUTSCHE ERDE VATERLAND!!
Shitty Mem's at least I don't live in New Mexico in the USA where God laughs at weathermen I mean it guessing weather is like guessing 200 sided dice blindfolded and drunk
Shitty Mem's no you don't understand about 3 years ago in July there was a blizzard like 8 inch snow when the other day it just went from 70 degrees Fahrenheit and about a year ago my dad just started working for the train station the where winds blowing over trains left and right
DiplexHeated you should start a new Alternate WWII series from scratch and make it be the entire war, maybe have one video for it a week. You could make it a version where Germany didn't go to war with Russia until after they had already secured all of Europe Great Britan included. The United States did join the war after pearl harbor but they only went to war with Japan with a twist, Canada and Mexico joined the Americans against Japan Fearing a Japanese Invasion of the Pacific Coast in their lands as well.
Canada went to war with Japan due to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Hong Kong and Malaya. As a matter of fact Canada lost troops on day 1 due to the attack on Hong Kong. So there wouldn't be much difference in that sense.
Who was the idiot who thought that landing craft was a good idea? “Oh ya let’s make a small, narrow craft with only one exit to the front and make it very high so the only real way out is the front. Let’s also make it super cramped so our troops are packed like sardines.”
Gott mit Uns not true. It only makes it easier as a machine gun with a narrow cone to fill in can cause extreme havoc. If a machine gun has to spread its arc across a large area, it’s effectiveness is severely reduced as it cannot suppress as effectively. It’s why you always flank a machine gun to its sides. If you spread out, it has a harder time getting all of you or is forced to focus on one group, meaning the other group can move up and take it out. But if it only has to focus on a small area to suppress, then it can literally mow down everyone. That design does no favors.
Dan Lorenzana It was the only logical option, you couldn't have the ramp behind the ship, or on the sides, the original version of the Higgins boats didn't have a ramp the troops just jumped over the side but during testing it showed limbs would be broken and people would drown
Why not send it through the back? Just have it open towards the rear sides or allow them to squeeze through 1 by 1. Even then the casualty rate would be significantly lower.
'Oh I do say, the Hun are on our beaches. Break out the tea lads and pass the ammunition, this is going to be a spiffingly good fight. Lets give them a jolly good hiding!' - Some random British chap on seeing the German Kriegsmarine assaulting the beach
Here, let me correct that for you. 'Oh I do say, the Hun are nearing the beaches. Wait, what is that? Are they...are they in barges being pulled by tugboats?' There's a pause as medics treat those who nearly pass out from laughing. 'Break out the tea lads and pass the crumpets, this is going to be a spiffingly good show. Let's three cheers for the Royal Navy!' Cheers ring out as Royal Navy start the process of sending a hundred thousand Germans to drown in the channel.
I like how he called you a "tipical moron" Microsoftman, 1 it's typical and 2 they stood no chance on their own, the United States won the damn war because the Entente was about to surrender, with Russia gone the German army was moving full west. So get that serrated bayonet out of your ass.
The Germans would not be in those landing crafts, they only had 2 prototypes for a similar craft in 1940, chances are they'd be arriving in barges and river boats.
Yep and they're too slow and would simply be destroyed by Royal Navy warships and RAF aircraft. But even if the Germans were successful in invading parts of Britain, The Royal Navy would block German supply ships and RAF would shot down supply planes. I think that may be why bombers were needed to destroy RAF airfields and they failed thanks to Hitler's order to destroy London thus diverting bombers from airfield to the capital and this gave the pilots time to rest then shot down more bombers over London on Sept 15th. Hitler postponed the invasion the next month. The 2 prototypes landing crafts were developed by the Americans, not Germans and used in many allied operations against both the Germans and the Japanese like in the D-Day operation.
It wasn't as straightforward as that. A sea invasion would have been incredibly fraught - they did not have air superiority because Goering was a tactical moron, and the Kriegsmarine was massively outgunned and outnumbered by the Royal Navy. There is then the problem of supply lines.
Not trying to sound like a know it all, but at 13:44, the us were allied with the the brits and were sending supplies in, just they had no joined the war yet
You should make it into a 3 part series. Part 2 could be the German Blitzkrieg across the English countryside with German Paratroopers going behind enemy lines. Part 3 could be the Battle of London where the British somehow manage to hold out after some US marines stationed in England come to their aid.
James Hartley I was thinking maybe the United States in a theoretical scenario could have some men stationed in England for training, just in case the Germans invaded and the British needed some back up. I realize the timeline doesn’t work for having marines there because the US wasn’t involved in the war until after Pearl Harbor
I want to make that, but making an English village and especially London would be really hard because all the buildings in the editor cater to French, German, and Russian architecture. England's buildings look different and I would want to make it as authentic as possible, I don't just want it to look like another random "village battle" map.
The Royal Military Academy Sandhurst ran a very detailed war game with real Admirals in 1974. The battle played out over a week with very intense planning from both sides. Sea Lion started on set conditions of September 19, 1940. The German forces delayed the invasion as long as they could to try to gain air superiority, which they could not, and then push ahead with the invasion anyway. Basically the first German wave managed to take the beach, push inland and hold ports at Folkestone and Newhaven, which the British team had scuttled by this time to make them useless. The Germans successfully landed 80,000 thousands troops. The British team, put up little resistance to the ground invasion as it focused on maneuvering the Home Fleet. The gains by the Germans were quickly diminished as the Royal Navy eventually over powered and destroyed the German Naval forces in the Channel, preventing the Second and Third wave from crossing. Without re-enforcements or supply, the 80,000 troops were stuck in a pocket, with their backs to the channel, where they were eventually forced to surrender. It became a reverse Dunkirk.
I'd love to see you make videos based off the Axis of Time books. A Task Force from 2021 is sent back to 1942, so M1A1s vs Type-37 tanks, and so forth. Modern forces vs WW2 would be great to watch.
not really...it would be a slaughter...nothing short of a Tiger Tank could stand up to the M1A1's, and the Japanese would be destroyed...they had shitty tanks, the planes would be shot out of the sky, their ships blown out of the water from miles away, without even a cannon round being fired...while it could be funny...it would not be entertaining
I don't even thing a maus could do anything to an M1A1 considering the insane amount of penetration that the modern rounds have, not to mention the armor on an Abrams is pretty close to a foot thick on the front.
Of you're going to do a battle of London, you should include a battle of tower bridge. That's the one that can raise and lower, with the two big towers, as i know that can be confusing for anyone not from England.
Make a series out of this. A future episode maybe could be something like a German panzer battalion attempting to relieve a surrounded Fallschirmjäger company?
When would Germany have been able to actually execute some kind of Operation Sea Lion? Never. We have to remember the Allies had total air supremacy and two of the three greatest naval powers of the time working together for Normandy. It still took a massive amount of time and resources to prepare. The Kriegsmarine had no real chance against the Royal Navy and Germany had absolutely no experience with an amphibious of the scale needed. A possible invasion of Britain would have been infinitely more complex than the Invasion of Norway was.
Viktor Wasielewski Its 1940, Not 1944. 1940 was a whole other Situation, in the late Summer, the Luftwaffe was about to Beat the RAF by bombing the airfields and plane Factories, for every Spitfire Germany had 3 Messerschmitt Fighter Planes, also france just surrendered and the coastal positions at cherbourgh, la Rochelle and Brest were perfect for German submarines and the Rest of the navy. USA still was neutral and the soviets (kinda) Allied with Germany. Germany also occupied Norway and sweden, and the submarines sunk more and more ships after each month, it was the "Golden time" for the Submarine fleet It was a Close call, brits nearly lost the Battle of britian. Also the Kriegsmarine didnt had to Beat Britian with the navy, the submarines we're about to Cut every supply they get by sea, they would Just starved and had No Oil to operate with ships or Planes. speaking of expierince in amphibious warfare; Germany occupied many Islands and Landscape by sea During the 1917/1918 uprise in Russia, Operation Albion ist the best example. The US took notes of this for Normandy, because they had No expierince in amphibious warfare aswell.
And you think that a naval invasion that took years for two of the greatest naval powers on Earth to plan and execute could have been done by a second-rate naval power on a whim? Without any large scale preparation? The U-boats mainly sunk merchant ships, and they did not manage to stave the Brits into surrender despite several great successes early on. The British actually replaced the lost shipping at a remarkable speed and even managed to outproduce the tonnage lost when much more effective ASW systems and tactics were developed later on. And the Battle of Britain was not a close call, it was a decisive British victory. In september of 1940 the Luftwaffe thought it had brought the RAF down to 177 operational fighters while in reality the British actually had over 570 operational fighters remaining, about 300% higher than the German estimate. The Luftwaffe then started to strike industrial facilities and C3I sites. The target switch from airfields to other installations was indeed an error by the Germans but much less significant than many think. If they had continued to strike the airfields the Luftwaffe would still have lost, just less quickly and less badly. Even if by some miracle the Germans would have won in the skies, in summer 1940 they only had 3 cruisers and 4 destroyers operational in the region. The British RN Home Fleet had 5 Capital Ships/1 Carrier/11 Cruisers/8 Destroyers. In addition to this the Germans had no really tested amphibious assault equipment, had nowhere near the needed experience and no amphibious logistics systems to speak of. And we all know how much trouble the Allies had during the planning and execution of the Normandy Landings, even when they had all the things above that the Germans sorely lacked in 1940. Like I said, Seelöwe was a fantasy.
R&R stands for rest and relaxation but I feel like they could have invaded British around 1942 during the London bombings and using U-boats and submarines to take down ships as battleships engage
Brock Gundich could they fuck as we all know the bloody British would sacrifice every man woman and tea bag to protect the fat bloke in the castle ( the king)
Brock Gundich The Germans never had the ability to invade the UK, the Germans had few dedicated landing craft and were gonna use river barges to land vehicles and men, plus the fact the U-boats would've also been in range of the RAF and wouldn't be able to target battleships
omfg, how do people like you exist... Ok, let me put this as simple as possible for you to understand. U-boats cannot sink ships. Yes, they can sink defenseless Merchantmen. And yes, they can sink warships. But they can only strike with the element of surprise. Once they fire those torpedoes, if they don't run away they are fucked. And neither could they fight effectively against destroyers who were increasingly being designed to sink them. So let's imagine your hypothetical scenario. German invasion has begun. Rickety barges slowly cross the channel. Their protection? A few light ships of the Kriegsmarine, nothing heavier than a light cruiser. Nothing heavy because at this point most of your fantasy battleships are blockaded in ports by the Royal Navy or have been sunk. The Germans have also scrounged together a few U-Boats. The Luftwaffe, drained by commitments in Operation Barbarossa and it's repeated defeats in trying to takes the skies of Britain, can barely scrounge a few squadrons. Suddenly, the Home Fleet appears on the horizon. British intelligence knew about the invasion the minute the Further ordered preparations be made. Their attempts to hide the invasion from them and the French resistance was laughable. The troops in the barges panic. A few overturn, simply being river barges, and not used to the swell of the rougher Channel. Already the fleet has opened fire and is sending boats by the dozen to the bottom. Thousands are already dead. The Kriegsmarine moves in. Admiral Brock Gundich assured them that the U-Boats were more than a match for any surface ship. They fire, a few ships are sunk. A cheer rings out. However the Home Fleet is the largest fleet on the planet in the largest navy on the planet. It easily bears such losses. Destroyer squadrons move in. The U-Boats have nowhere to run. Both sides of the Channel are blocked. A dozen subs sink the the bottom as they are located and destroyed piecemeal. In the air above another battle is taking place between the Luftwaffe and the RAF. The Luftwaffe can do nothing against the Royal Navy. They have only managed to sink a few destroyers as they have no dedicated anti ship planes or weaponry, the best they can muster is dive bombers. The RAF manages to push them back, aided by the supportive anti aircraft fire of the Navy below. The Luftwaffe falls back in retreat. Now nothing stands between the Royal Navy and the transports of the German troops. And the slaughter begins. Because sending a hundred thousand to the bottom of the channel and be called nothing else, not when they've been sent their on the orders of a Wehraboo who thought that U-boats were somehow the only cover the invasion needed and would be more than a match for the largest fleet on the planet.
The ridiculousness of this scenario has already been pointed out, so I'll just contribute a fun fact. During the early years of the war Britain actually destroyed large numbers of their major ports and roads leading from them in order to prevent the Germans from parachuting or landing a small force, capturing a major port and then shipping in large quantities of supplies. Any German force that did land in the UK, as for example the video shows, would soon find itself surrounded, cut off from supplies and forced to surrender.
except in 1940 the Germans had no Landing craft except river barges. Also The british were going to used poison gas to protect their own shores. And finally we were going to pump oil into the sea and set fire to it. I would like you to include that in the vid.
We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
In 1974 British and German generals came together to see what would have happened if the Germans invaded England 🏴 the Germans would have only landed 330,000 troops, looking at the defences that were waiting for them a lot of them are still there today the Germans would have being slaughtered on the beaches as would the paratroops when they dropped in.
Battle of Trafalgar is considered our greatest victory due to the simple fact that if we lost to the armada of French and Spanish ships then Napoleon would have been able to land on Britain and defeat the British army because the French Grand Armee was the best in the world at this point in 1805. This is basically the same for the Battle of Britain. If somehow the Germans were able to defeat the Royal Air Force then defeat the Royal Navy then Germany would have been able to land their Army and would have defeated the British army since the war at this point was in Germany's favor and their army was far superior to any other nations armies in the early stages of the war (Prussian officers are no joke bro). Look at how the Germans crushed the combined might of the British Empires force, French forces, Dutch forces and Belgium forces in matter of weeks in the battle of France. The island we dwell on is our greatest defense. Prior to the 20th century you just had to defeat the Royal Navy to land on Britain, now you have to go through the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy, which any nation would struggle to achieve even to this day.
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus actually when Trafalgar happened the coalition already forced the french to concentrate all of their forces on the war on land, Trafalgar or not the result would have bin the same...
matthieu GA So what are you saying exactly? Are you saying If Napoleon defeated the Royal Navy then landed on Britain, Napoleons army would have been defeated? So Trafalgar is not that important to Britain maintaining it's sovereignty since the British army would have defeated Napoleon anyways, Trafalgar or not? Napoleon had a far larger army, largest amount of field artillery and Napoleon would have lead his forces himself, which of course was the most dangerous out of them all. The British army was no match 1 v 1 against Napoleon at this point (and through out the war since Napoleon won the vast majority of Battles he personally commanded himself) hence the fact for coalitions and numerous coalitions for that matter throughout the entire war, to slowly wipe out his other forces commanded by his generals, not by him. The coalition made it clear to not openly engage forces led by the Emperor himself but to fight his generals to weaken the overall French Grande Armee. 1805 was in Napoleons favor in land combat and the British high command understood that, so they made sure the Emperor did not get a chance to land on Britain, for if he did then he would have conquered Britain. That is why the Battle of Trafalgar is our most important battle( voted by our people and our historians), as it is the battle that could have ended us if we had lost it (Battle of Britain comes second for the same reasons). The French navy never recovered after that battle. So now Britain could take the war forward knowing it's island is protected from further possible invasion and the Emperor is now forced to stay on mainland Europe to fight. and Britain can take it to him, with their multiple coalitions.
Now I’m not sure if he has a video already like this, but he should do a video where Germany is defending a hill or fort that is heavily fortified, then have an allied faction on opposite sides attack then meet in the middle. (Almost like a competition of who can defeat the Germans on their side first and make it to the middle)
Germany could not have beaten Britain on their own turf after 1943, It would have to be, in my eyes, immediately after Dunkirk, and though the Germans would suffer at the hands of the Royal Navy and Air force, I think they could land enough equipment and troops to be successful.
Maybe, and that was a very long shot. The only good thing to come from it could have been the German U-Boats and Navy along with the Luftwaffe causing heavy losses to the RAF and the British Royal Navy, But at what cost?.
Watch military history visualized or alternate history hub's video on operation sea lion and it becomes apparent how nearly impossible it would be to invade Britain.
Even if the Germans did not 'invade', they could have tied down the British for far longer is they had landed some troops, maybe not enough to take over, but certainly enough to cause extreme amounts of havoc.
ComradeVlad After ww2 there was a table top war games using real plans and real war commanders. Britain basically built nothing but artillery after Dunkirk. Massive country wide "stop lines" of artillery were created that the Germans just couldn't breach. They wouldn't have a solid air or sea lane to transport supplies. Every cenario ended with a German defeat though a sizable beach head was always achieved. Britain knew it couldn't stop a landing so never intended to... All mass landings succeed so plan was to wear them down with big guns on land and from sea.
I personally think that the Luftwaffe with a little bit of Uboat Kriegsmarine support would have been enough to stop or atleast hold the Royal Navy in position to allow Operation Sea Lion to commence and be carried out
Diplex you should have done a paratrooper invasion, that would be more logical because of the fact that Germans didn't invent any naval invasion ships due to the fact that the Germans didn't want to attack Britain. The Germans didn't think about invading Britain until 1949 I think? Also if they were to invade Britain in real life it would most likely by para.
1EPICGAMER 1 Paratroopers would have made sense, but the Kreigsmarine definitely had the means to have an effective beach landing. Also, the war was over in 1945, so maybe youre thinking 1939? That wouldve been a little stretch tho
The way they would have had to do it is take out the allied army at Dunkirk so they don't have a army to defend. next win the battle of Britain by focusing on the royal air force grind them to dust like they where doing at first. then start sending in ju 52 and gliders with the bombers to drop in paratroopers to take a port then bring in the naval troops use the Luftwaffe to keep the royal navy out of the channel then after that use planes to drop off supplies and the occasional supply boat then they have to take London they need marines to attack from the south and paratroops to attack the city from the north so the PM and the MP can't escape and that is how they could force a surrender to then take the royal navy for themselves.
>so they don't have an army to defend Even if the entire force in Dunkirk was destroyed the Germans would still have quite a number of Army Divisions in Britain to deal with along with the British Homeguard that numbers in well over a million >win the battle of britain The Battle of Britain was doomed to fail because of various different factors even if the Germans didn't do the dumb decision to attack civilian targets. Who knew its really hard to fight effectively when the British can literally detect the German planes taking off from their bases in France with their radar >drop paratroopers You mean that 1 paratrooper division Germany had along with that normal Wehrmacht division given airborne equipment without training? Good luck with that against an enemy's mainland that isn't some poor Scandinavian country you decided to surprise attack >take a port Again, good luck with that against over a million enemy troops garrisoned in various ports But let's say those 2 divisions manage to land successfully and despite all odds take a port, what now? The British Navy is still a thing and they'll just be starved out in whatever port they captured >bring in naval troops On what? row boats and river barges? The Germans had no dedicated landing vehicles or craft and the best thing the command can come up is using Rhine river barges to across the Channel because surely using river barges is a good idea in a the much more rough and active English Channel Not only that but the British had countless small naval vessels that can be put to harassing and attacking any barge or boat that tries to cross even if we completely disregard the Royal Navy >use the Luffwaffe to keep the Royal Navy out of the Channel Oh yes, the Luffwaffe that had no dedicated naval aircraft and wings, no training or doctrine regarding bombing naval vessels and so far a poor tract record regarding attacking enemy ships is going to be able to keep the Royal Navy out of the Channel. I could go on but honestly I think that's enough
You clearly no nothing about this > the Germans have a large paratroop core by this time paratroops played a key role in the blitzkrieg they where used with great success during the invasion of the low country and Poland. > the home guard was mostly boys and old men pretty much the volkssturm but worse they didn't even have enough weapons or gear for them all. >the Germans had a lot of small naval craft what they lacked was battleships they pretty much had everything else even then they could use cargo subs to bring troops in to the port yes the Germans had cargo subs >do you forget what sank the Yamato aircraft strafing it most of the carrier planes that attacked it where fighters. > the Germans had a lot of bombers and torpedo craft that they used to drive the royal nave from Norway so yes it is proven that the Luftwaffe can push the royal navy back >the Germans were moments away from wining the battle of Britain several times they where destroying British airfields and aircraft fast than they could be produced. key point the Germans had a massive war machine behind them if the wanted to take the island they could have
The total number of paratroopers of the Luftwaffe was around 14.000 men however during the invasion of crete they increased the number to 28.000 troops(they used mountain troops) but they paradroped about 22.000 with the help of Italians.And even if they are paradroped on British soild and they capture 1 single harbour.Itll be rendered inoperable by the defenders so that they cant use it as a landing point. Yes the home guard had less training and was worse equiped than the germans however you need to keep in mind that the germans were doing an landing operationg would be a big disavantage for germans.To get what im talking it took allies years and years of preparation ships and planning for D-day and still they were afraid it will fail.The german didnt even had adequate landing ships for an land invasion and their armies had little experience with land invasion so when they arive on UK shore they'll have a hard time. The small naval craft is practicaly useless for an land invasion.For the suport of auxiliary and transport ships you need Destroys,Cruisers and Battleships for protection of it.Uboats are good at attacking transport ships not defending it.And how are cargo subs usefull?They transport capacity is limited as it can take so few soldiers on it and lets not talk about suplies... Its useless to compare Yamamoto to Bristish ships because the aircraft used to sink it were aircraft planes.These planes were made to fight agaisnt ships not unlike Me 109, He111 and Ju 87 that weren't made to engaje ships and the torpedo boats were too few in numbers and itll have a hard time against Royal Navy.And lets talk about the huge size of the Royal Navy which could take losses except the germans which needed every ship they had.They can damage the royal navy?Yes.They can push it back?No.
Sos Damn how do you think the Germans sank ships during the Dunkirk evac they used those exact planes a bomb is a bomb and ships at this point had no anti air protection sure they had a few AA guns but they had little to no armor on the deck
Dunkirk is a bad example as most ships were civilain or merchant ships and Royal Navy deployed only 1 cruiser,36 destroyers and some gunboats and corvettes no other big ship was used because of shallow waters and there were over 600 civilian ships.Of this number the cruiser was damaged(not sure if it was because of a luftwaffe attack or that it colided with another ship.) and 6 destroyers sunk so using Dunkirk is not a good example.
just after the beginning of the battle of London when they had control of the air and if they didn't change the tactics for the Air Force every time it about to be successful then they could've launched an invasion
The reason the Luftwaffe kept changing tactics is because the previous tactics did not work. They were losing, and were therefore trying new things. Also, even if they somehow magically had been able to attain air superiority against the UK (which they didnt), that still would not make an invasion feasible. First of all, there was the Royal Navy to contend with - the Luftwaffe lacked serious anti-ship capabilities, so that would be a problem. Furthermore, Germany lacked proper amphibious capabilities (no dedicated landing craft, no portable harbors, no proper supply vessels) in order to conduct and sustain an amphibious operation. Finally, they had very limited and lightly armed paratroopers, that would not on their own be able to take the UK. So basically: no, Operation Sea Lion could never become a reality.
No, historians don't agree. No British airfield was knocked out for longer than a few hours, and even if the Germans had managed to knock out a British airfield all that would have meant is tha the British could withdraw their airforce further inland. The only one pulling things out of his ass is you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain#Assault_on_RAF:_radar_and_airfields What actually happened is that the Germans seriously overestimated the damage they had inflicted and thought that they had gained air superiority.
Bungay, Stephen (2000). The Most Dangerous Enemy : A History of the Battle of Britain There. Read that then if you prefer. Also, "history channel" is not a source. It is in fact crap.
When ever you can , I suggest doing a video where you Have shock troopers and Anakin attack mustafar with around 80-92 Shock troopers. vs 60 B1 battle droid , 5 super battle droids ,and 2 Spider droids
Diplex, there is a demo of a new mod about Gears of War, i haven't tested it yet, although, it seems got the basis for multiplayer, maybe you could try it?
The Germans could have used submarines to land supplies and troops and after they secure a beach they could send a bunch of aa guns they could then push up to a air base so they could then have some air support
it would be complicated to forsee what happened. Personally the only way I could see it working is what you mentioned, a war of attrition and continuing the battle of Britain by air to the point where they would have won due to the fact that they had the numbers, the factories, and the constant flow of materials. Then with the costly victory the air battle would bring, a large strategic bombing campaign of its factories and other military targets. At this point they would also have to beat the British Navy somehow likely with the very same now veteran luftwaffe using torpedoes or even using Stukas to dive bomb their ships which could possibly pave the way for a sea invasion but it wouldnt be a sound plan with the numerous royal navy laying about. It would either have to be attritional surrender or Fallschrimjager invasion which can work if they built up the necessary air logistics and planned it correctly.
"we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender," Winston Churchill, June 4th, 1940
hey diplex, I'm a nube on MOWAS2 I have a question... how do you make waves like you did with the landing craft... I just want to kinda up my game on the GEM Editor
This map could be easily located anywhere between Boscombe and Milford on the Southern English Coast. Nobody in the right mind would attempt a landing under the white cliffs.
Well actually if you think about it our airforce was the reason why they weren’t able to successfully act on operation seal because of our airforce the one component that was the reason why the Germans turned their eyes on the eastern front
Why not make a senario were a russian armored convoy stops in the middle of a small town and the have to fight waves of millitia (make russians have air support )
Even if the invasion would be after 1945, the Pz. II’s and III’s make sense. They are light enough to put on a lading craft . I don’t think a 70 Ton Königstiger or Panther could make it to shore
Could you do Guernsey island, would be cool for German defence Vs British beach assault on the small island even though they didn't fight there. Look up the occupation of the channel islands. It's often overlooked
Sealion's plans called for them to to use tug boats as main landing craft with raft behind them as the Germans had vary little landing craft and they did not make any because they were only prototypes
This man didn’t take a video down for demonetization, but for the sake of content. He’s a legend.
Fallschirmjäger pleasee
Michael Burrows He is talking about a battle in which the Fallschirmjäger (German military parachutists) are involved
Michael Burrows No problem. They're actually very interesting and you should look them up.
Starring ...Max Schmeling ?
0:00 - _German cinema newsreel "Die Deutsche Wochenschau" shows propaganda-material of Wehrmacht-Troops landing in Great Britain during the Operation Sea Lion, March 1941, colorized._
Oh yes!
Just watching a Army get killed all you hear is.
*Aw fuck i forgot to log out of steam*
Sorry for not uploading a video today. I recorded a battle but my soundcard failed me so no audio was picked up by my recording software.
First to reply even after 3 years
You are really good at voicing German officers!
Did you forget the "Insane german tank commander" video?
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Make a series out of it. What if germany... invade england and won. What if they won on D-Day. What would happen after it. It would be cool
You would need to pull some magical victory off in order for germany to succesfully invade england in 1940 XD
Well... a succesfull invasion and victory over GB would have been bloody to say the least. And it would have taaken time i guess it would end in a horribly weakened germany getting steamrolled by stalin in summer 1942
If D-Day was lost, nothing would change really, Germany was already collapsing to the Soviets, and the Italian Campaign was succeeding for Britain. But it could end up making Places like France Communist, and etc.
Thrawn BAYERN D-day would be kinda impossible if the UK is under Nazi rule
England is a very hard nut to crack militarily but they are extremely paranoid about spies and terrorists so you could tear them apart from the inside, like what ISIS tried to do.
It is the fact that the United Kingdom as a whole lives in a stable but precarious situation. United they are invincible to everything but if you reignite old wounds they beat each other senseless
The only way they really could have pulled it off would be if they had wiped out the British at Dunkirk, invaded a month or two later, and gotten very, very, lucky.
THe Germans'd leave within a few months...cuz it rains a shit ton
I see you live in the north
South Germany has 40 Celsius in the Summer and beautiful snow in the Winter!!!
GOTT MIT DIR DU LAND DER BAYERN
DEUTSCHE ERDE
VATERLAND!!
Shitty Mem's at least I don't live in New Mexico in the USA where God laughs at weathermen I mean it guessing weather is like guessing 200 sided dice blindfolded and drunk
Shitty Mem's no you don't understand about 3 years ago in July there was a blizzard like 8 inch snow when the other day it just went from 70 degrees Fahrenheit and about a year ago my dad just started working for the train station the where winds blowing over trains left and right
Shitty Mem's bei uns im Norden regnets ständig
Ireland in a nutshell
DiplexHeated you should start a new Alternate WWII series from scratch and make it be the entire war, maybe have one video for it a week. You could make it a version where Germany didn't go to war with Russia until after they had already secured all of Europe Great Britan included. The United States did join the war after pearl harbor but they only went to war with Japan with a twist, Canada and Mexico joined the Americans against Japan Fearing a Japanese Invasion of the Pacific Coast in their lands as well.
Canada went to war with Japan due to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Hong Kong and Malaya. As a matter of fact Canada lost troops on day 1 due to the attack on Hong Kong. So there wouldn't be much difference in that sense.
sounds like the book 1945
Who was the idiot who thought that landing craft was a good idea?
“Oh ya let’s make a small, narrow craft with only one exit to the front and make it very high so the only real way out is the front. Let’s also make it super cramped so our troops are packed like sardines.”
Gott mit Uns not true. It only makes it easier as a machine gun with a narrow cone to fill in can cause extreme havoc. If a machine gun has to spread its arc across a large area, it’s effectiveness is severely reduced as it cannot suppress as effectively. It’s why you always flank a machine gun to its sides. If you spread out, it has a harder time getting all of you or is forced to focus on one group, meaning the other group can move up and take it out.
But if it only has to focus on a small area to suppress, then it can literally mow down everyone.
That design does no favors.
Probably because it wouldn't work as a waterbourne craft
Dan Lorenzana It was the only logical option, you couldn't have the ramp behind the ship, or on the sides, the original version of the Higgins boats didn't have a ramp the troops just jumped over the side but during testing it showed limbs would be broken and people would drown
Why not send it through the back? Just have it open towards the rear sides or allow them to squeeze through 1 by 1. Even then the casualty rate would be significantly lower.
Shitty Mem's It wasn't more sophisticated, it still has a front ramp that funneled troops forwards
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martywigman 734 lol more like 4:46 thats when he unload troops
martywigman 734 p
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Please do a naval war
User Name I don't think you can on MOW:AS2
@@kapitankapital6580 Naval units are only for cinematics atleast in 2020
'Oh I do say, the Hun are on our beaches. Break out the tea lads and pass the ammunition, this is going to be a spiffingly good fight. Lets give them a jolly good hiding!'
- Some random British chap on seeing the German Kriegsmarine assaulting the beach
Here, let me correct that for you.
'Oh I do say, the Hun are nearing the beaches. Wait, what is that? Are they...are they in barges being pulled by tugboats?'
There's a pause as medics treat those who nearly pass out from laughing.
'Break out the tea lads and pass the crumpets, this is going to be a spiffingly good show. Let's three cheers for the Royal Navy!'
Cheers ring out as Royal Navy start the process of sending a hundred thousand Germans to drown in the channel.
*laughs in British*
Jerry? On the kings beaches? Oh my, no this will not do, lets give them a bloody good hiding lads! Tally-ho!!!
They've taken out some of our tanks. Bally nuisance, just isn't cricket, eh what!
Midlands/Northern Translation: "Ayup, who're these cunts? Cheeky Bastards reckon' they can storm our beaches! Let's fuckin' 'ave' em, lads!"
you are amazing, they way you do things and explain them is awsome just that you deserve more subs like a few Millions.
How about the millionth Battle of the Isonzo?
Microsoftman404 oh hey
Microsoftman404 Great War realism if my fav mod :)
Microsoftman404 Tipical moron. Remember Italy won the war piece of shit.
What the hell is up your ass? A serrated bayonet?
I like how he called you a "tipical moron" Microsoftman, 1 it's typical and 2 they stood no chance on their own, the United States won the damn war because the Entente was about to surrender, with Russia gone the German army was moving full west. So get that serrated bayonet out of your ass.
It’s funny cause the german navy only two modified river bouts pulled by tug boats
Dover Strait coastal guns: Really?
Royal navy: Oh yeah?
RAF: Try harder, Jerry
One of my favorite TH-camrs been watching for so long fr
Hey Diplex, we haven't seen multiplayer battles for a long time! We want more videos like Insane German Tank Commander)))
erick d agreed xd
YES!! Please make one for the Battle of London!
The Germans would not be in those landing crafts, they only had 2 prototypes for a similar craft in 1940, chances are they'd be arriving in barges and river boats.
Yep and they're too slow and would simply be destroyed by Royal Navy warships and RAF aircraft.
But even if the Germans were successful in invading parts of Britain, The Royal Navy would block German supply ships and RAF would shot down supply planes. I think that may be why bombers were needed to destroy RAF airfields and they failed thanks to Hitler's order to destroy London thus diverting bombers from airfield to the capital and this gave the pilots time to rest then shot down more bombers over London on Sept 15th. Hitler postponed the invasion the next month.
The 2 prototypes landing crafts were developed by the Americans, not Germans and used in many allied operations against both the Germans and the Japanese like in the D-Day operation.
They would have probably used something like a Siemens Ferry
@@DavBlc7 if you see a german trooper in england there is no more raf lol
@@jayfelsberg1931 not enough of them though and most of the German invasion was on river barges which would sink in slightly choppy waves.
And made good targets to practice close-air-ground on, @@RomanHistoryFan476AD
Thank u for making this your the best diplex
Germany Could destroy whole UK easily but they attacked russia. Not the best idea..
James Ryan probably but they invade Russia because of Russia resource that they need to invade Britain
No one captures Russia in the wintertime, unless you’re the mongals.
They made one mistake: Russia
Agent Mullin mongal tage
It wasn't as straightforward as that. A sea invasion would have been incredibly fraught - they did not have air superiority because Goering was a tactical moron, and the Kriegsmarine was massively outgunned and outnumbered by the Royal Navy. There is then the problem of supply lines.
Not trying to sound like a know it all, but at 13:44, the us were allied with the the brits and were sending supplies in, just they had no joined the war yet
You should make it into a 3 part series. Part 2 could be the German Blitzkrieg across the English countryside with German Paratroopers going behind enemy lines. Part 3 could be the Battle of London where the British somehow manage to hold out after some US marines stationed in England come to their aid.
Andrew Yancik
US Marines? In 1940...?
James Hartley I was thinking maybe the United States in a theoretical scenario could have some men stationed in England for training, just in case the Germans invaded and the British needed some back up. I realize the timeline doesn’t work for having marines there because the US wasn’t involved in the war until after Pearl Harbor
I want to make that, but making an English village and especially London would be really hard because all the buildings in the editor cater to French, German, and Russian architecture. England's buildings look different and I would want to make it as authentic as possible, I don't just want it to look like another random "village battle" map.
Andrew Yancik
Can we just leave America out for once!
James Hartley yeah it would probably be for the best if the US was left out of the scenario
The Royal Military Academy Sandhurst ran a very detailed war game with real Admirals in 1974. The battle played out over a week with very intense planning from both sides. Sea Lion started on set conditions of September 19, 1940. The German forces delayed the invasion as long as they could to try to gain air superiority, which they could not, and then push ahead with the invasion anyway. Basically the first German wave managed to take the beach, push inland and hold ports at Folkestone and Newhaven, which the British team had scuttled by this time to make them useless. The Germans successfully landed 80,000 thousands troops. The British team, put up little resistance to the ground invasion as it focused on maneuvering the Home Fleet. The gains by the Germans were quickly diminished as the Royal Navy eventually over powered and destroyed the German Naval forces in the Channel, preventing the Second and Third wave from crossing. Without re-enforcements or supply, the 80,000 troops were stuck in a pocket, with their backs to the channel, where they were eventually forced to surrender. It became a reverse Dunkirk.
I'd love to see you make videos based off the Axis of Time books. A Task Force from 2021 is sent back to 1942, so M1A1s vs Type-37 tanks, and so forth. Modern forces vs WW2 would be great to watch.
not really...it would be a slaughter...nothing short of a Tiger Tank could stand up to the M1A1's, and the Japanese would be destroyed...they had shitty tanks, the planes would be shot out of the sky, their ships blown out of the water from miles away, without even a cannon round being fired...while it could be funny...it would not be entertaining
Even a tiger wouldn't stand much of a chance, the Maus might be able to annoy a M1A1, but like Jesse said, not entertaining.
william lydon.
Lol it would be one-sided war despite technology & skill difference.
I don't even thing a maus could do anything to an M1A1 considering the insane amount of penetration that the modern rounds have, not to mention the armor on an Abrams is pretty close to a foot thick on the front.
Tiger would not stand up to an M1A1 either. Even the Maus would be obliterated as if it was a sardine can.
Diplex just wanted to say the landing ships wouldn't beach but drop the soldier's off in shallow water
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Of you're going to do a battle of London, you should include a battle of tower bridge. That's the one that can raise and lower, with the two big towers, as i know that can be confusing for anyone not from England.
Rest and recuperate
Rest and Recovery or rest and relaxation many different options with mostly the same meaning
it means rearm and recover
Well, the actual definition of it is rest and relaxation, but anything with an r in front of it is fair game I guess.
Rest in Reserve.
I wonder, how many meanings we will get like this, keep going people!
Make a series out of this. A future episode maybe could be something like a German panzer battalion attempting to relieve a surrounded Fallschirmjäger company?
Hi you could make the battle of Nürnberg also an interesting battle with an very interesting story
When would Germany have been able to actually execute some kind of Operation Sea Lion? Never. We have to remember the Allies had total air supremacy and two of the three greatest naval powers of the time working together for Normandy. It still took a massive amount of time and resources to prepare. The Kriegsmarine had no real chance against the Royal Navy and Germany had absolutely no experience with an amphibious of the scale needed. A possible invasion of Britain would have been infinitely more complex than the Invasion of Norway was.
Viktor Wasielewski
Its 1940, Not 1944.
1940 was a whole other Situation, in the late Summer, the Luftwaffe was about to Beat the RAF by bombing the airfields and plane Factories, for every Spitfire Germany had 3 Messerschmitt Fighter Planes,
also france just surrendered and the coastal positions at cherbourgh, la Rochelle and Brest were perfect for German submarines and the Rest of the navy.
USA still was neutral and the soviets (kinda) Allied with Germany.
Germany also occupied Norway and sweden, and the submarines sunk more and more ships after each month, it was the "Golden time" for the Submarine fleet
It was a Close call, brits nearly lost the Battle of britian.
Also the Kriegsmarine didnt had to Beat Britian with the navy, the submarines we're about to Cut every supply they get by sea, they would Just starved and had No Oil to operate with ships or Planes.
speaking of expierince in amphibious warfare;
Germany occupied many Islands and Landscape by sea During the 1917/1918 uprise in Russia, Operation Albion ist the best example.
The US took notes of this for Normandy, because they had No expierince in amphibious warfare aswell.
And you think that a naval invasion that took years for two of the greatest naval powers on Earth to plan and execute could have been done by a second-rate naval power on a whim? Without any large scale preparation? The U-boats mainly sunk merchant ships, and they did not manage to stave the Brits into surrender despite several great successes early on. The British actually replaced the lost shipping at a remarkable speed and even managed to outproduce the tonnage lost when much more effective ASW systems and tactics were developed later on.
And the Battle of Britain was not a close call, it was a decisive British victory. In september of 1940 the Luftwaffe thought it had brought the RAF down to 177 operational fighters while in reality the British actually had over 570 operational fighters remaining, about 300% higher than the German estimate. The Luftwaffe then started to strike industrial facilities and C3I sites. The target switch from airfields to other installations was indeed an error by the Germans but much less significant than many think. If they had continued to strike the airfields the Luftwaffe would still have lost, just less quickly and less badly.
Even if by some miracle the Germans would have won in the skies, in summer 1940 they only had 3 cruisers and 4 destroyers operational in the region. The British RN Home Fleet had 5 Capital Ships/1 Carrier/11 Cruisers/8 Destroyers. In addition to this the Germans had no really tested amphibious assault equipment, had nowhere near the needed experience and no amphibious logistics systems to speak of. And we all know how much trouble the Allies had during the planning and execution of the Normandy Landings, even when they had all the things above that the Germans sorely lacked in 1940. Like I said, Seelöwe was a fantasy.
R&R stands for rest and relaxation but I feel like they could have invaded British around 1942 during the London bombings and using U-boats and submarines to take down ships as battleships engage
Brock Gundich could they fuck as we all know the bloody British would sacrifice every man woman and tea bag to protect the fat bloke in the castle ( the king)
Brock Gundich The Germans never had the ability to invade the UK, the Germans had few dedicated landing craft and were gonna use river barges to land vehicles and men, plus the fact the U-boats would've also been in range of the RAF and wouldn't be able to target battleships
I guess R&R could also be Rest and Refit.
omfg, how do people like you exist...
Ok, let me put this as simple as possible for you to understand.
U-boats cannot sink ships. Yes, they can sink defenseless Merchantmen. And yes, they can sink warships. But they can only strike with the element of surprise. Once they fire those torpedoes, if they don't run away they are fucked. And neither could they fight effectively against destroyers who were increasingly being designed to sink them.
So let's imagine your hypothetical scenario. German invasion has begun. Rickety barges slowly cross the channel. Their protection? A few light ships of the Kriegsmarine, nothing heavier than a light cruiser. Nothing heavy because at this point most of your fantasy battleships are blockaded in ports by the Royal Navy or have been sunk. The Germans have also scrounged together a few U-Boats. The Luftwaffe, drained by commitments in Operation Barbarossa and it's repeated defeats in trying to takes the skies of Britain, can barely scrounge a few squadrons.
Suddenly, the Home Fleet appears on the horizon. British intelligence knew about the invasion the minute the Further ordered preparations be made. Their attempts to hide the invasion from them and the French resistance was laughable. The troops in the barges panic. A few overturn, simply being river barges, and not used to the swell of the rougher Channel. Already the fleet has opened fire and is sending boats by the dozen to the bottom. Thousands are already dead. The Kriegsmarine moves in. Admiral Brock Gundich assured them that the U-Boats were more than a match for any surface ship. They fire, a few ships are sunk. A cheer rings out. However the Home Fleet is the largest fleet on the planet in the largest navy on the planet. It easily bears such losses. Destroyer squadrons move in. The U-Boats have nowhere to run. Both sides of the Channel are blocked. A dozen subs sink the the bottom as they are located and destroyed piecemeal.
In the air above another battle is taking place between the Luftwaffe and the RAF. The Luftwaffe can do nothing against the Royal Navy. They have only managed to sink a few destroyers as they have no dedicated anti ship planes or weaponry, the best they can muster is dive bombers. The RAF manages to push them back, aided by the supportive anti aircraft fire of the Navy below. The Luftwaffe falls back in retreat.
Now nothing stands between the Royal Navy and the transports of the German troops. And the slaughter begins. Because sending a hundred thousand to the bottom of the channel and be called nothing else, not when they've been sent their on the orders of a Wehraboo who thought that U-boats were somehow the only cover the invasion needed and would be more than a match for the largest fleet on the planet.
The ridiculousness of this scenario has already been pointed out, so I'll just contribute a fun fact. During the early years of the war Britain actually destroyed large numbers of their major ports and roads leading from them in order to prevent the Germans from parachuting or landing a small force, capturing a major port and then shipping in large quantities of supplies. Any German force that did land in the UK, as for example the video shows, would soon find itself surrounded, cut off from supplies and forced to surrender.
except in 1940 the Germans had no Landing craft except river barges. Also The british were going to used poison gas to protect their own shores. And finally we were going to pump oil into the sea and set fire to it. I would like you to include that in the vid.
We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
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Do operation market garden plz ;)
market garden took place over a large area would be hard to get all the bridges in a single map. it was like 7 battles all alone a single road.
And it was a complete allied disaster
I want to see a Falschemjaeger landing to capture a main British port or something like that
Even if the RAF was destroyed you would still have to contend with the fucking RN which is the Kreigsmarine was only 1/20 the size of the RN
ValkCorgi you want to know how desperate sea lion was even Hitler thought it was a bad idea
ValkCorgi The Luftwaffe didn't have the weapons to destroy battleships and heavy ships until late in the war
Shitty Mem's not really in a concentrated fleet like battleships or carriers
Hi, R&R in the Australian Army stands for rest and relaxation but I think it also stands for rest in recovery to
love the german browning machine guns
Jerold Productions mg42s - German browning- American
Captured Equipment from Dunkerke
The point is the weapons on the boats are of allied origin not mg42s or earlier versions. Maybe from dunkerke
Its because the Germans did not have any dedicated landing craft. Problem nr 1 for any idiot who thinks Germany could have invaded Britain...
Jerold Productions german brownimg machine guns....
In 1974 British and German generals came together to see what would have happened if the Germans invaded England 🏴 the Germans would have only landed 330,000 troops, looking at the defences that were waiting for them a lot of them are still there today the Germans would have being slaughtered on the beaches as would the paratroops when they dropped in.
Battle of Trafalgar is considered our greatest victory due to the simple fact that if we lost to the armada of French and Spanish ships then Napoleon would have been able to land on Britain and defeat the British army because the French Grand Armee was the best in the world at this point in 1805. This is basically the same for the Battle of Britain. If somehow the Germans were able to defeat the Royal Air Force then defeat the Royal Navy then Germany would have been able to land their Army and would have defeated the British army since the war at this point was in Germany's favor and their army was far superior to any other nations armies in the early stages of the war (Prussian officers are no joke bro). Look at how the Germans crushed the combined might of the British Empires force, French forces, Dutch forces and Belgium forces in matter of weeks in the battle of France. The island we dwell on is our greatest defense. Prior to the 20th century you just had to defeat the Royal Navy to land on Britain, now you have to go through the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy, which any nation would struggle to achieve even to this day.
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus actually when Trafalgar happened the coalition already forced the french to concentrate all of their forces on the war on land, Trafalgar or not the result would have bin the same...
matthieu GA
So what are you saying exactly? Are you saying If Napoleon defeated the Royal Navy then landed on Britain, Napoleons army would have been defeated? So Trafalgar is not that important to Britain maintaining it's sovereignty since the British army would have defeated Napoleon anyways, Trafalgar or not?
Napoleon had a far larger army, largest amount of field artillery and Napoleon would have lead his forces himself, which of course was the most dangerous out of them all. The British army was no match 1 v 1 against Napoleon at this point (and through out the war since Napoleon won the vast majority of Battles he personally commanded himself) hence the fact for coalitions and numerous coalitions for that matter throughout the entire war, to slowly wipe out his other forces commanded by his generals, not by him. The coalition made it clear to not openly engage forces led by the Emperor himself but to fight his generals to weaken the overall French Grande Armee. 1805 was in Napoleons favor in land combat and the British high command understood that, so they made sure the Emperor did not get a chance to land on Britain, for if he did then he would have conquered Britain. That is why the Battle of Trafalgar is our most important battle( voted by our people and our historians), as it is the battle that could have ended us if we had lost it (Battle of Britain comes second for the same reasons). The French navy never recovered after that battle. So now Britain could take the war forward knowing it's island is protected from further possible invasion and the Emperor is now forced to stay on mainland Europe to fight. and Britain can take it to him, with their multiple coalitions.
Now I’m not sure if he has a video already like this, but he should do a video where Germany is defending a hill or fort that is heavily fortified, then have an allied faction on opposite sides attack then meet in the middle. (Almost like a competition of who can defeat the Germans on their side first and make it to the middle)
Germany could not have beaten Britain on their own turf after 1943, It would have to be, in my eyes, immediately after Dunkirk, and though the Germans would suffer at the hands of the Royal Navy and Air force, I think they could land enough equipment and troops to be successful.
Maybe, and that was a very long shot. The only good thing to come from it could have been the German U-Boats and Navy along with the Luftwaffe causing heavy losses to the RAF and the British Royal Navy, But at what cost?.
Watch military history visualized or alternate history hub's video on operation sea lion and it becomes apparent how nearly impossible it would be to invade Britain.
Even if the Germans did not 'invade', they could have tied down the British for far longer is they had landed some troops, maybe not enough to take over, but certainly enough to cause extreme amounts of havoc.
With what? Germany did not even have dedicated landing craft.
ComradeVlad
After ww2 there was a table top war games using real plans and real war commanders. Britain basically built nothing but artillery after Dunkirk. Massive country wide "stop lines" of artillery were created that the Germans just couldn't breach. They wouldn't have a solid air or sea lane to transport supplies. Every cenario ended with a German defeat though a sizable beach head was always achieved. Britain knew it couldn't stop a landing so never intended to... All mass landings succeed so plan was to wear them down with big guns on land and from sea.
The Royal Navy and the RAF would have blown them to pieces before they got half way across.
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DO BATTLE OF CRETE!!! IT HAD GERMAN PARATROOPERS
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i think almost immediately after after dunkirk, the british army lost almost everything but it's men during the evacuation
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I personally think that the Luftwaffe with a little bit of Uboat Kriegsmarine support would have been enough to stop or atleast hold the Royal Navy in position to allow Operation Sea Lion to commence and be carried out
Diplex you should have done a paratrooper invasion, that would be more logical because of the fact that Germans didn't invent any naval invasion ships due to the fact that the Germans didn't want to attack Britain. The Germans didn't think about invading Britain until 1949 I think? Also if they were to invade Britain in real life it would most likely by para.
1EPICGAMER 1 Paratroopers would have made sense, but the Kreigsmarine definitely had the means to have an effective beach landing. Also, the war was over in 1945, so maybe youre thinking 1939? That wouldve been a little stretch tho
As in, thinking ahead of time? Because he was dead far before that (if you actually believe that happened)
Devo Zanzibar I'm not sure if he's uneducated or a troll
*Facepalm HE HAD FUTURE PLANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'49? FOURTY NINE? Wat I hope you meant 39.
diplex sir, may I request that you do a little bit of star wars clones battles I missed those
The way they would have had to do it is take out the allied army at Dunkirk so they don't have a army to defend. next win the battle of Britain by focusing on the royal air force grind them to dust like they where doing at first. then start sending in ju 52 and gliders with the bombers to drop in paratroopers to take a port then bring in the naval troops use the Luftwaffe to keep the royal navy out of the channel then after that use planes to drop off supplies and the occasional supply boat then they have to take London they need marines to attack from the south and paratroops to attack the city from the north so the PM and the MP can't escape and that is how they could force a surrender to then take the royal navy for themselves.
>so they don't have an army to defend
Even if the entire force in Dunkirk was destroyed the Germans would still have quite a number of Army Divisions in Britain to deal with along with the British Homeguard that numbers in well over a million
>win the battle of britain
The Battle of Britain was doomed to fail because of various different factors even if the Germans didn't do the dumb decision to attack civilian targets. Who knew its really hard to fight effectively when the British can literally detect the German planes taking off from their bases in France with their radar
>drop paratroopers
You mean that 1 paratrooper division Germany had along with that normal Wehrmacht division given airborne equipment without training? Good luck with that against an enemy's mainland that isn't some poor Scandinavian country you decided to surprise attack
>take a port
Again, good luck with that against over a million enemy troops garrisoned in various ports
But let's say those 2 divisions manage to land successfully and despite all odds take a port, what now? The British Navy is still a thing and they'll just be starved out in whatever port they captured
>bring in naval troops
On what? row boats and river barges? The Germans had no dedicated landing vehicles or craft and the best thing the command can come up is using Rhine river barges to across the Channel because surely using river barges is a good idea in a the much more rough and active English Channel
Not only that but the British had countless small naval vessels that can be put to harassing and attacking any barge or boat that tries to cross even if we completely disregard the Royal Navy
>use the Luffwaffe to keep the Royal Navy out of the Channel
Oh yes, the Luffwaffe that had no dedicated naval aircraft and wings, no training or doctrine regarding bombing naval vessels and so far a poor tract record regarding attacking enemy ships is going to be able to keep the Royal Navy out of the Channel.
I could go on but honestly I think that's enough
You clearly no nothing about this
> the Germans have a large paratroop core by this time paratroops played a key role in the blitzkrieg they where used with great success during the invasion of the low country and Poland.
> the home guard was mostly boys and old men pretty much the volkssturm but worse they didn't even have enough weapons or gear for them all.
>the Germans had a lot of small naval craft what they lacked was battleships they pretty much had everything else even then they could use cargo subs to bring troops in to the port yes the Germans had cargo subs
>do you forget what sank the Yamato aircraft strafing it most of the carrier planes that attacked it where fighters.
> the Germans had a lot of bombers and torpedo craft that they used to drive the royal nave from Norway so yes it is proven that the Luftwaffe can push the royal navy back
>the Germans were moments away from wining the battle of Britain several times they where destroying British airfields and aircraft fast than they could be produced.
key point the Germans had a massive war machine behind them if the wanted to take the island they could have
The total number of paratroopers of the Luftwaffe was around 14.000 men however during the invasion of crete they increased the number to 28.000 troops(they used mountain troops) but they paradroped about 22.000 with the help of Italians.And even if they are paradroped on British soild and they capture 1 single harbour.Itll be rendered inoperable by the defenders so that they cant use it as a landing point.
Yes the home guard had less training and was worse equiped than the germans however you need to keep in mind that the germans were doing an landing operationg would be a big disavantage for germans.To get what im talking it took allies years and years of preparation ships and planning for D-day and still they were afraid it will fail.The german didnt even had adequate landing ships for an land invasion and their armies had little experience with land invasion so when they arive on UK shore they'll have a hard time.
The small naval craft is practicaly useless for an land invasion.For the suport of auxiliary and transport ships you need Destroys,Cruisers and Battleships for protection of it.Uboats are good at attacking transport ships not defending it.And how are cargo subs usefull?They transport capacity is limited as it can take so few soldiers on it and lets not talk about suplies...
Its useless to compare Yamamoto to Bristish ships because the aircraft used to sink it were aircraft planes.These planes were made to fight agaisnt ships not unlike Me 109, He111 and Ju 87 that weren't made to engaje ships and the torpedo boats were too few in numbers and itll have a hard time against Royal Navy.And lets talk about the huge size of the Royal Navy which could take losses except the germans which needed every ship they had.They can damage the royal navy?Yes.They can push it back?No.
Sos Damn how do you think the Germans sank ships during the Dunkirk evac they used those exact planes a bomb is a bomb and ships at this point had no anti air protection sure they had a few AA guns but they had little to no armor on the deck
Dunkirk is a bad example as most ships were civilain or merchant ships and Royal Navy deployed only 1 cruiser,36 destroyers and some gunboats and corvettes no other big ship was used because of shallow waters and there were over 600 civilian ships.Of this number the cruiser was damaged(not sure if it was because of a luftwaffe attack or that it colided with another ship.) and 6 destroyers sunk so using Dunkirk is not a good example.
I don't understand why the beach wasn't mined and why the tank traps had huge gaps ?
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just after the beginning of the battle of London when they had control of the air and if they didn't change the tactics for the Air Force every time it about to be successful then they could've launched an invasion
The reason the Luftwaffe kept changing tactics is because the previous tactics did not work. They were losing, and were therefore trying new things.
Also, even if they somehow magically had been able to attain air superiority against the UK (which they didnt), that still would not make an invasion feasible. First of all, there was the Royal Navy to contend with - the Luftwaffe lacked serious anti-ship capabilities, so that would be a problem. Furthermore, Germany lacked proper amphibious capabilities (no dedicated landing craft, no portable harbors, no proper supply vessels) in order to conduct and sustain an amphibious operation. Finally, they had very limited and lightly armed paratroopers, that would not on their own be able to take the UK.
So basically: no, Operation Sea Lion could never become a reality.
No, historians don't agree. No British airfield was knocked out for longer than a few hours, and even if the Germans had managed to knock out a British airfield all that would have meant is tha the British could withdraw their airforce further inland. The only one pulling things out of his ass is you.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain#Assault_on_RAF:_radar_and_airfields
What actually happened is that the Germans seriously overestimated the damage they had inflicted and thought that they had gained air superiority.
Your going from Wikipedia cause that's trustworthy the site anybody can edit I'm going off of a real show with real historian from a history channel
Bungay, Stephen (2000). The Most Dangerous Enemy : A History of the Battle of Britain
There. Read that then if you prefer.
Also, "history channel" is not a source. It is in fact crap.
Has anyone noticed that whenever Diplex points out a brit on the battlefield, they die? (Other than the Bren gunner on the crest)
Could you turn your maps into Steam Workshop content? I would love to play your maps on MoW AS2!
When ever you can , I suggest doing a video where you Have shock troopers and Anakin attack mustafar with around 80-92 Shock troopers. vs 60 B1 battle droid , 5 super battle droids ,and 2 Spider droids
Diplex, there is a demo of a new mod about Gears of War, i haven't tested it yet, although, it seems got the basis for multiplayer, maybe you could try it?
The Germans could have used submarines to land supplies and troops and after they secure a beach they could send a bunch of aa guns they could then push up to a air base so they could then have some air support
Hey diplex it would be awesome if you could do a battle with the gebirgsjager mountain troops. I would be awesome :D
look up operation sea lion and how close it was to being assembled
Could you continue with the airborne assault please?
Hey Diplex could you perhaps do a fictional WW2 attack on Windsor Castle London
When are you going to do a German invasion of the east coast?
I remember the first time you did a custom Operation Sea Lion map and scenario years ago Diplex. That was impressive, but this takes the cake.
Could ya do the Marawi siege?
Are you up to make a video about the german invasion of the netherlands in 1940?
What is the name of the March at the start?
It would be really cool if you uploaded these maps to steam workshop because I personally would love to play on them!
The british tank at the start was a matilda mk1
it would be complicated to forsee what happened. Personally the only way I could see it working is what you mentioned, a war of attrition and continuing the battle of Britain by air to the point where they would have won due to the fact that they had the numbers, the factories, and the constant flow of materials. Then with the costly victory the air battle would bring, a large strategic bombing campaign of its factories and other military targets. At this point they would also have to beat the British Navy somehow likely with the very same now veteran luftwaffe using torpedoes or even using Stukas to dive bomb their ships which could possibly pave the way for a sea invasion but it wouldnt be a sound plan with the numerous royal navy laying about. It would either have to be attritional surrender or Fallschrimjager invasion which can work if they built up the necessary air logistics and planned it correctly.
"we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender,"
Winston Churchill, June 4th, 1940
Can you work on more Hellmarches?
You should do the "Invasion of Norway"
I’m curious, why haven’t we seen any galaxy at war videos?
Can you do an Operation Unthinkable battle between the Allies and the Soviets please?
I never understood randomly placing wire and obstacles around in games, doesn't make much of a choke point. Why not cover the ENTIRE beach in wire?
hey diplex,
I'm a nube on MOWAS2
I have a question...
how do you make waves like you did with the landing craft... I just want to kinda up my game on the GEM Editor
This map could be easily located anywhere between Boscombe and Milford on the Southern English Coast. Nobody in the right mind would attempt a landing under the white cliffs.
Well actually if you think about it our airforce was the reason why they weren’t able to successfully act on operation seal because of our airforce the one component that was the reason why the Germans turned their eyes on the eastern front
Very good Diplx. Could you do a modern day Scottland vs Britan. It would be like a modern historical battle.
Why not make a senario were a russian armored convoy stops in the middle of a small town and the have to fight waves of millitia (make russians have air support )
please make this a series
0:33 there are American 30. Cals on German landing craft
You gotta do the battle of the somme (ww1)
Or the beach landing in galipoli (ww1)
Diplexheated can u do NTW 3 videos plz? I mean it's 7.5 update is really cool.
Someone has seen papers about how Germany was going to take Great Britain not sure who it was though
Even if the invasion would be after 1945, the Pz. II’s and III’s make sense. They are light enough to put on a lading craft . I don’t think a 70 Ton Königstiger or Panther could make it to shore
What mod did you use to increase the size of the landing craft? Also, how did you make the tanks exit the landing craft like that?
Yes! My prayers have been answered! Thank you Diplex.
Could you do Guernsey island, would be cool for German defence Vs British beach assault on the small island even though they didn't fight there. Look up the occupation of the channel islands. It's often overlooked
Diplex, I'd love for you to do a series of scripting tutorials. Especially things like paratrooper insertion, random shelling, and the like