Looks Vs. Confidence For Dating in 2023 **In-Depth Blackpill Analysis**
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In-depth analysis of Confidence Vs. Looks for 2021 dating.
*Disclaimer* Obviously there is a ridiculous amount of generalizations in this video, explains things in the most black and white terms, and leaves out other key factors (namely money/status). *But this best reflects my experience*
▬ Contents of this video ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
00:00 - Intro and Visualisation
04:42 - Redpill Vs. Blackpill
09:12 - Online Vs. Daygame
16:14 - *Examples*
20:41 - In-Depth Breakdown
25:10 - Summary/Future
In my opinion:
5's need perfect 10/10 game, a single slip up and you're out
6's need very strong game
7's need game to a decent level
8's can get away with mistakes and being a little nervous
9's can get away with pretty much anything
10's can speak 5 words of English and still be successful
Game without looks is creepy harrassment.
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Well said
That’s me , I made her feel “ a little weird and uncomfortable “, I told her she was really pretty,and had very nice legs,she was wearing short shorts! Yea that’s all I said , now if a chad said that she would of loved it
@@fleadoggreen9062 It's women's "instinct" to be uncomfortable with men they're unfamiliar with. However those same women would ignore that so called instinct for men they happen to find attractive.
lmfo when they get ugly they want all the attention and be like "where all the good men"
If a girl is super attracted to you, she’ll do most of the work. You don’t need “game” to make her wanna have sex. Just going up to introduce yourself is already game.
In that case maintaining interest is the main priority, which may count as "game" if you're expanding beyond just the pickup.
@@hornedlobster true, pickup artists have a hard time with (long term) retention
you cannot sell programs, bootcamps, webinars and ebooks in this case though 🤣
True if a girls finds you attractive there's nothing and I mean nothing she won't do for a Klondike bar
@@AbbaOjcze you're the execption to the rule. Congratulations. 👍🏿
Something I’ve said for years:
In many (not all) cases, the sole difference between “sexual harassment” and flirting boils down to whether or not the woman is attracted to the man.
spitting so hard
I agree to that, and i would also like to add that it is also the reason people dont see red flags when dating a person . people that are chosen as "the right person" are usually judged by attractiveness standards that are tightly linked to familiarity , in other words : we are attracted to people that are handsome in a familiar way .
And the difference between being creepy or smooth depends on where you fall on the looks scale. It’s almost comical sometimes to think about how much self awareness women lack.
@@strategic1710 i dont think that it is specific to women
To me it depends who you are talking to. I am a solid 5 with 8 to 10 confidence you can be nervous. I still am if the girl is really pretty. I have been rejected a fair amount but at the end if you aim at gold digger/disrecptfull woman hiding behind 2h of prep to look good.
You will sure hit a wall. Black Pill theory
Get confident, smart about the girl your aiming at. Red Pill Theory
Sometime you win sometimes you lose but at the end if you choose your target properly you will never hit the wall.
Learn how to avoid the wall - Kown yourself - Know what you want - Be honest with yourself and others- Choose your women wisely.
My gf is a solid 9 with make up and 8 without.
If a woman scares you tell yourself that she needed 2h of makeup to get that confidence to reject you.
You just need to be yourself to talk to her.
Peace
Chad do not need to learn game. Constant positive reinforcement since kindergarden make it difficult to get nervous in front of a girl. The opposite is true for sub-5.
What you're saying holds true in the vast majority of cases, but trust me I've seen blue pilled chads who are still hopeless - albeit extremely rare, they do exist
true af
i was a chad,no wonder why girls and people in general were so nice until i hit puberty
looks matter the most
@@4ka07_muhammadrizky . you went down when you hit puberty ? .
@@changchadchanamdong2668 basically glow down
You guys are very scientific about this. I'm starting to see why arranged marriage in old days was so common.
@Jack Dorsen #MeToo
@Mike Fallon This was reality of traditional life, I suppose. People, particularly in Asia, married out of a sense of duty, not to make themselves happy. That had it's problem, these times we live in have other problems. One or the other, I guess.
@Jokerpilled Saint She's probably got a son that watches this content. She's probably questioning if her genetics screwed over her son.
Oh my god, as a woman you fall into this ?
@Jokerpilled Saint I am sorry but you say this to the wrong guy. I am from the field and guarantee you that we can maximum find a correlation between jawbone strength and attraction but certainly NOT a causation. He Leads guys into logical fallacies by unintentionally utilizing confirmation bias.
This is how logical men are based. We’re literally using charts, math, and formulas to try and understand women and dating, lmao.
lol. it's very ridiculous. there's some truth in it, but yeah, very ridiculous, and doesn't control for an insane amount of other variables. you can't generalise on this level. humans are insanely complicated and different.
@@serengeti4027 This is just a model, not an accurate description of reality. It works well enough because it is a generalization, it doesn't need to take into account that many specific parameters.
@@squashpsych7052 if it’s not an accurate description of reality then what purpose does it really serve? To tell us that looks matter substantially in dating? Does anyone not know that? We all know that.
Most women wouldn't sit through the charts long enough to feel the misogyny
@@serengeti4027 humans have schemes that lots of times repeated. We are not that complicated. Stop spewing lies. The difference is people always don't understand the reason for scheme to occure and everyone reads schemes like they imagine it in their psychotic mind. First scheme, everyone is egoist and only looks after themselves. Plenty proves on day by day basis. So what, now everybody is different right? Wrong. Almost everybody virtue signals to get better social status and access to reproduction and that clearly means almost everybody is a complete liar just to get something in exchange through manipulation. That shit goes on and on. There are many things that are self repeating in history since nothing is new under the sun, but people love to DELUDE themselves in their PSYCHOTIC minds it is different than it was 10 000 years ago, which is false, and then continue to delude themselves on various many other topics - which may include trivial topics like claiming life is about having fun when in fact life is about suffering or more complex topics like believing in some idee fixe (ideology, idea) and around that idea creating axioms from PSYCHOTIC mind that they try to prove to be correct through BELIEVING in certain axiom THEY MADE UP AT THE FIRST PLACE ex. christian philosophers who never question christianity and create new ideas about how world works and how people could find happiness in life while never questioning christianity itself which they claimed as axiom. Sorry normie, you are wrong. You believe in globohomo sjw propaganda that PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT when most actually are excactly the same and behave the same way and are looking for the same things as others.
I remember meeting this italian guy in the UK, extremely good looking and with absolutely 0 knowledge of the english language. For the whole lenght of my stay, he crushed puss like there was no tomorrow.
His pick up line? "You very nice!". :D
You very nice😂😂😂 Chad dating life is so easy
Yeah its really insane how easy we have it. Most women would rate me at least an 8 out of 10, and i can say first hand how effortless attracting women is.
Sounds like a good looking Borat.
Isn't that basically the plot to a Friends episode?
I consider myself as a 7-7.5, but some women see me as 8-8.5. Wherever I go there is definitely some women looking at me and smiling. All the girls I dated or slept with came to me with 0 effort, they literally chased me. Obviously, dealing with 9-10s is difficult but 6-8 are relatively easy for me. I don't consider below 6... Even though I have game, the fact that women are already attracted to me for my looks, I can easily apply the games with great confidence, a positive feeding circle
The problem is 'game' or personality comes from positive reinforcement, especially by women. An unattractive man is going to have far worse game than a Chad because they have been treated differently their entire lives.
Exactly, I've heard people say "fake it till you make it" only to then turn around saying "Just be yourself, if you fake it people will see through it" (which I agree, everytime I've tried to fake it due to not being able to show genuine confidence as a result of my life being full of negative reinforcement, people saw right through it).
I would agree a chad automatically gets some amount of game from the positive reactions to his looks/halo effect, its very rare to find a good looking guy who is an totally nervous awkward loner. They do exist, but then they usually also dont take care of their appereance which destroys their genetic goid looks
Something a bit of narcissist can't resolve.
And there lies the danger in men having our self worth wrapped up in how many women we can sleep with. It's not the answer to our problems
But there are some good looking people who are just naturally socially awkward, don't have many friends and are shy regardless of how much attention they get.
I would draw a hard line at 9 looks. Most women will accept a complete psychopath if he is a 9 in looks. They just do not care about personality at all. There was a guy that made a fake dating profile and pretended to be a pedophile and abusive to his past exes and women were still trying to force the situation to meet up with him even though he was saying the creepiest crap possible and treating them like they were raw sewage. These were not unattractive women either, they were 6+.
Interesting....
I have seen similar videos. It is pretty disturbing isn't it?
ted bundy and that guy from the patriots had a female fan base lol
Greatest example : Patrick bateman.
what guy are you talking about? sounds interesting
I think "game" is confidence and confidence comes from social interaction. Halo effect means that hot people will naturally be more confident and then have good "game" because people treat them better.
They won't want to admit that they got where they are mostly down to the halo effect.
A very confident ugly guy will get laughed at or attacked.
Confidence is the byproduct of success, it’s not the cause of it.
Maybe it depends on how they display that confidence. In general, people don't like those who act like they're hot s*it, even if they are that good. Although fanboys sometimes like it when their favourite athletes are like that.
@@SR-xk8cd yes, which is why pua is a scam unless you’re high tier attractive but lack social skill.
@@SR-xk8cd I'm tired of saying this at this point, people just don't get it.
It's like saying Ferraris make people rich, because look rich people have Ferraris.
@ching chong lots of mental gymnastics and contradictions there.
Yes there's outliers but confidence comes from how you view yourself. Yes correct.
How can you know how to view yourself? From social interaction.
Who gets positive reinforcement.
Attractive people.
Oh my gawd your baby is so pretty
She's a gorgeous kid
Oh he's so hot
Etc.
Ugly people get negative reinforcement.
So over years who becomes "confident"?
Also the people receiving positive reinforcement are also more likely to be described as trustworthy, nice, friendly and outgoing.
Ugly people, creepy, unfriendly, shy, awkward.
It really is that simple but society needs to function so we gaslight ugly people so they play the game.
Its true...
Girls even doing aproaches to chad.
She said: my friend thinks you are cute, here is her number.
He didnt even say anything ->0 game necessery
That happened to me once but I still think I'm ugly lol
I was hanging out with a chad friend of mine a couple days ago, when a girl stopped him and told him that one of her friends found him cute, he asked her "and who's your friend?", she pointed out to a group of girls and showed him, she was an 8 in the worst cenario, what was his reaction? "Thanks, I'll pass". I was like, dude, look at the abundance mentality of these guys, he was rejecting an 8 in front of me and making fun about it. Being Chad must be awesome. Just in case you ask, he's been my friend for almost 25 years, since we're children. And I'm a 7/10 in a good day. He doesn't even know what blackpill is, he's just living the dream.
@@joao_ssouza If you are high normie-tier, girls showing you sometime very subtle indicator of interest.
For instance they ask you a unecessary question like:
How many sets are you doing?
Can you watch out for my Laptop?
Are those **** new?
Happened to me sometimes.
Most of the time i didn't get it, i was socially not aware enough in my late teens early 20.
The time I got it, it worked out, but it took some effort (game).
High normie-tier must qualify themselves and for chads, woman do the work for them.
Women approach me all the time, its really insane.
@@joao_ssouza does he credit his looks for his success or does he attribute it to personality or game?
I love presentations that start off bad and depressing but then in the end -- take a turn for the worse!
xD
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😂😂 love this comment.
Ah yes, if I start working hard now to lookmax myself and to step up my game, I will get the same results since I will never reach 7 anyway.
As someone who was involved in the whole PUA sub-culture for a good 4 years, I learnt the hard-way that your looks is your game. As a sub 5, I had excellent 'verbal game,' yet time and time again, I would be astounded whenever I went out with Chads' and see them succeed with relative ease and minimal effort. Don't waste your money on game.
Transfer your game skills to business and money-making. Generally, 10 million+ USD can vault you to the normie-7 category (maintaining same game), as long as you stay away from marriage.
True, but looks are relative. A 10 has higher standard than a 5.
@@alexapirot32Unless you get into the 100 million + club, Stacey's for LTR's are off limits unless you are a 9 or 10 yourself. But one should be able to snag a low-8 or any 7-below if you have 10 million and are at least a 5 or 6, looksmaxxed and gymmaxxed for your level, with no need of game to attract them. Again, use game for $$$max and all should be well.
@@michaelr3578 while in theory this is sound. But i know a couple guys from who date legit 8's or 9's and are not even jacked or rich. One guy barely makes it finacially and just popped the ring to a girl who has a body of a strong 9 and face of an 7-8.
@@michaelr3578 Do you speak from experience?
The graph for online dating is spot on and I am speaking from experience. Tried with several different photos of myself and it didn’t make a difference. Cold approach only works if a woman is giving you signs that she wants you to approach her. I do neither anymore. It’s hard to have “confidence” if you are always striking out. I always tell people that looks get your foot in the door.
@Black Boy King TV Why try doing something when, as the saying goes, the juice is not worth the squeeze?
Deciding that you'd rather become your own person, rather than a brainless SIMP whose sole goal in life is to keep trying to find a woman who is willing to settle for you - because lets be honest, at the point where someone hardly finds anyone over months or years, most women would only "settle" for him, rather than pick him straight up - is just straight up the sensible choice.
And here's the absolute zinger here; Usually, the people who decide to focus on themselves, fix their life and find happiness? They jump up in attractiveness by a few notches. So wether you want him to be his own person or you want him to become a family man, in both cases him going his own way and finding himself is a better path.
I met with love of my life with cold aproach without interest signals.
I speed dated a couple of times. Once, I went with a good looking friend of mine. He's about a 9 out of 10. I'm a 6.5 - 7 on a good day. He doesn't have much game though. He still got five women that wanted to meet him afterwards. I got one. Looks matter!
The fact that you got even 1 as a 6.5 is impressive. And yeah especially with speed dating those results aren’t surprising, a study on speed dating found that physical attraction is the strongest predictor of romantic interest in speed dating and that there is zero evidence that personality plays a role. Makes since since speed dating is basically Tinder in real life
@@Trynottoblink I believe that study. Besides the experience I mentioned above, I've speed dated two other times. One yielded no phone numbers, just a couple of FB friends. The other time there were mostly land whales. Don't waste your time with speed dating fellas.
@@mclcorp18 I went speed dating about 15 years ago. I gradually worked out that each genuine single woman there brought two or three friends as fake singles with them. It was pretty awful looking back.
@@saucegg great advice, this is what I do. I don’t get any sexual closes, but I also live a very low stress life and have peace, quiet, and freedom when I’m not socializing.
@mclcorp18 Ehhhh.. the truth hurts sometimes. That's been my experience also.
*PROOF that your are CORRECT* (for the most part)
When I was 21or 22 I was a solid 7 with fair game. Two 7/8 girls recognized me from other parties/friends and came up to chat. While talking a friend of mine, definite CHAD, an easy 9 came up and joined the conversation. At some point CHAD replied to something they mentioned with an absurdly lame comment - they just looked at him strange, so he said it again, still another strange/confused look, then he said it for a third time with solid confidence and both girls started laughing.
I never forgot about that incident. It still blows my mind how his good looks completely saved him from looking like a creepy idiot. There was no way I could have pulled it off.
@@richardlyman2961 if two attractive girls approached him on their own, he's defitnely not an average guy
the idea that two normies can compete against each other in a closed environment is gone.
chads are within reach for every woman. that means that this option is ruled out forever
Unless you geomaxx I suppose (that is, if JBW isn't another issue you have to deal with)
@@kungfuvoodoo9889 JBW?
@@EnoI539 "Just Be White" theory. It's a simplified generalization, but overall many women of different ethnicities tend to prefer white men, especially Eastern countries like Thailand, Cambodia or the Phillipines which coincidentally tend to have both active prostitution (though technically not legal in these places) and more traditional family lifestyles than in Western civilization. So whether you're looking for hookups or serious relationships, if you're a white incel you're likely to have far better success in these countries just for your skin color (mileage may vary if your looks aren't great though).
I've heard theories that places like Brazil or certain places in Africa can be decent ways to geomaxx if you aren't white, but women there don't seem to be nearly as excited about non-white foreign men as many Asian women are with white guys.
@@kungfuvoodoo9889 "Just be white" doesn't seem to work in the West. At least not for hookups. Probably being ehtnicel is more likely with relationships than hookups in the West.
@@ParleLeVu Perhaps, that might be the case depending on the area you live in. But from what I hear from the experiences of many ethnicels in the West, the women (presumably white) they've dealt with who say they'd date or even prefer non-white guys are only virtue signaling unless it's an 8+/10 Tyrone/Chadriguez. And it seems like the non-white women they deal with also tend to prefer white guys, even the ones who whine about how they are oppressed by straight white men.
I do see your point though, I'm a normie-tier white guy and I've had extremely little luck myself. At the end of the day, it's clear that most women in the West only care about Chads/Tyrones/etc and guys in our situation are probably best off geomaxxing if we can find the opportunity.
If you're sub 5 no matter how much confidence you have women will just think you're creepy and find your confidence as harrassment or at the very least revolting.
If you're sub5 the best solution is get rich
I’ve seen some of the ugliest men still pull women. Charisma, charm, and looks are really all you need to get a relationship.
@@awightviewuhs6103 just exercise and stop watching porn become the better you
I was a solid 4-5 with bad haircut and overweight but now I’m somewhat in shape take care of myself and damn I’m a 6-7 now
@@KamiR24 or money
@@JoeMama-es1nd you could be broke as fuck and if you know how to talk and look good you can get so many women.
I'm 8.5 looks roughly 6 in game (normal conversation) and I get a lot of women's interest. Blackpill is more accurate tbh
Yes when i was in highschool i hook up with a lot of girls standing at parties, they din't know how nervous i was while doing our thing lol
@Dante's Cuckferno “I don‘t ger none“ as in you‘re not getting girls?
@Dante's Cuckferno And how tall are you?
@Dante's Cuckferno Yeah, this is very accurate.
I am 5'7 too and am getting a real hard time getting any attention lately. Besides, I am currently skinny af due to covid.
I'll start going to the gym next week, but I do understand I need to boost my shape first.
I consider myself a 7 on face looks alone.
Probably a 6 overall due to those 2 things. I know I can become a 7.5 or 8 (very optimistic) maybe once I get those things back because I have high status.
@Dante's Cuckferno I can see where you are coming from but I prefer to believe there are better possibilities or circumstances out there. It's better to have some hope than none at all. At least then you have some goal and are not totally apathetic, I guess.
I honestly came to disagree with your take on the matter but your points are so compelling and logically presented that is hard for me to dismiss them as mere defeatist blackpill babble. Good job. Looking forward to see more of your content
Looks matter a lot but there are situations where u still will be able to find a nice girl if u are average looking with average game. Love is more like a dumb luck. Same with genetics. Genetics are more than just looks btw so blackpill has it's truths to share. Redpill is for average people, blackpill is for below 5 so they learn the harsh reality, but everyone need to know the truth of both believes.
I would just change the line from a straight one to a curved one, like an exponential curve so that as you are moving up in SMV, game becomes exponentially less important.
Yes, good point, as you increase in looks game becomes even less relevant, almost to a fault
@@WheatWaffles both on top AND bottom.
A reverse "S" shaped curve.
It would show how once you are past a 6, _any positive changes_ in your looks, no matter how small can yield disproportionate gains
(or you needing that much less game)
In short -- "just get a haircut bro" is not without merit.
Same goes for "confident approach" since your gait is part of your looks. (don't slouch)
It's weird and painful being young and seeng this video, just to end up knowing that no matter what you do, even if you are average, you will not reproduce, and having the burden on top of you to carry a family tree that comes from a million years of ancestor's hard work and being the last one in which all that ends without the abilty to find a mate...
Sucks to be in modern times doesn't it...
There are people who don't reproduce every generation. Your parents had brothers/cousins who didn't reproduce. Because there is variation in genetics and environment each generation there will always be such individuals, that is more so who you would be compared to best in the previous generation if you don't reproduce.
I wouldn’t stress about this too much, the only data that supports it is a study on dating apps(it showed the top 20% of men get 80% of women) and thats because men greatly outweigh the amount of women on them.
@@imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266 ideocracy movie is truthful. dumb good looking guys reproduce. ugly ones won't. that is all.
You should feel liberated. WW just saved you thousands of hrs and possibly tens of thousands of dollars.
And don’t forget the divorce rate - even those guys who ‘win’ may still lose when divorced and the ex turns his kids against him, financially ruins him.
@@WestCoastAce27 sure but never forget humans are meant to be with others, not alone. there is so much scientifical research showing that men who are more alone and lonely die earlier, have weaker immune systems and more.
so even if its true. divorce is shit. mariage is shit. Humans are kinda needing that relationship
well the good part is that to a great extend you CAN work on your bodybuilding looks and it is highly impactful, it even changes your face slightly, if you take care it can clear your skin and improve the mood you experience / the attitude you display
In 2021 being perfect is not enough.
That really sounds like too much hassle, much more than it's really worth. If women are so picky about selecting their mates, why should we even bother? Better to leave them to their own devices. Learn to be content with yourselves, guys, instead of trying to chase imaginary and idealistic stuff. It's human to crave what one does not have but the problem is when what you are chasing is your imagination of things rather than reality. Like you may think some girl you like may be a great match for you and you would be very happy being with her but in reality it may not be the case at all.
That's cope, all straight men, unless you have undergone vasectomy, craves a woman's affection and physical connection. By "leaving them be" you are bascially stating that you are incapable of forming relationships with he opposite sex, it's not because you don't want to, its because you can't.
@@NimpayPvP But the thing is, the audience of such channels are typically guys who are incapable of getting women and yet they have problems with accepting such reality rather than moving to other priorities or trying to improve themselves. So, in the end it does not help them in any way, only reinforces them in their depression. I'm not speaking of myself because I do not have that type of problems but a lot of guys apparently have and wallowing in self-pity, looking for people in simlar situation (so called misery loves company effect) or reading about conspiracy theories for why things look the way they do is just the wrong way to go. Better to not listen to such content, believe in oneself, have a goal of self-improvement and be pesistent in it and it will eventually pay off. Whereas doing those things I listed leads to nowhere.
@@martinpiekarski1512 Yeah agreed, can’t be lazy and not ambitious just because life hit u hard with genetics, women don’t have to be the center of your happiness and or success
@@NimpayPvP Yep, that was exactly my point.
We shouldn't.
You really do have to get to an advanced level of game as a normie to have ANY success with women... In my early 20's I could cold approach in the daytime, get numbers, and instadate. But all the numbers would eventually flake, no matter how much work I put in. I wish I had taken that same energy and got in shape instead, but the PUA gurus insisted that looks didn't matter.
Get ripped in HS/college, fix your skin, teeth, and hair, THEN try game. You'll be what's called "a natural".
I'm in shape and as jacked as Chris Pratt.
But I'm not ripped.
Is it necessary to get extremely ripped?
I don't know I'm just asking.
I'm a mechanical engineering graduate that too from India.
So you know how less experienced I am.
@@rightlibertarian8355 I do not think so. A very detailed muscular definition may "scare" many girls away, or make them think that you put so much effort in the gym just to impress the girls , so you are a "try hard", or that you will not have enough time and energy for other things (and for her) if she thinks you are too invested to the gum. SO a body like the German guys in the "Calisthenicmovement" channel, or something similar is enough (you can either be like them, or be up to 5% more volume but with less definition, or be up to 5% less volume than them if you are tall). Of course they are 1% of women that like the body-builder style of body, but we do not want to have anything to do with such a woman, they have a distorted aesthetics if they like the bodybuilder body, and they must have psychological issues, and a twisted brain, I would not want to be near such a woman.
@@rightlibertarian8355 Don't get jacked up like a bodybuilder if it's just for women. It takes performance enhancing drugs to get that big and the potential side effects can be bad (acne and hair loss from the PEDs) and getting huge may put a lot of stress on your heart.
Just follow like brad pitt bidy
@@rightlibertarian8355 Being average size and very lean(7-8%) is much better than being huge. It gives a lot of definition to your face, abs, V-taper.
Wow. Was never a fan of the blackpill idea so I didn't read into it too much but this seems spot on.
Now as a normie I'd rather lookmax and money/status max instead of game.
Can confirm that looks are most important, every single girlfriend I’ve had (three) has told me that looks are the most important thing to girls aged 15-24, then social status comes next and they don’t care about anything else. 25 and older looks matter less, but they’re still second most important behind social status and assets/money. I’m about an 8.5 on average, and my best version is a 9. I’ve literally got hundreds of likes on my dating apps so I don’t have to do any swiping myself which helps even more as I don’t have to come across as the needy one. It’s not fair guys, but I think you can change your looks by up to 2 points max if you do all the right things. Go to the gym, practice good skincare, get clothes that accentuate your style, find a quality salon for your haircut and grooming, and get a nice tan going. You’ll up your looks by 2 points, then you can worry about game if you’re still a sub-8
Quite puzzling how the "9" has a blank profile.
15 💀
@@photog1738 you know it’s actually possible for him to have been 15 at one point in his life? 🤔
@@iSW1Mbamfass hahahahahaha! Thank u for that bro ! Made my day
@@boinecastillo7455 9s don't bother filling profile on youtube :)
Game for an "unattractive" man is called sexual harassment.
This kind of goes hand in hand with what I have always observed. Based on experience, male attractiveness to women is primarily based on physical characteristics: (height, body type and facial characteristics in that order of importance). Those base attraction characteristics can be either raised or lowered by social characteristics: status/wealth, grooming, personality/game in that order, but bad physical traits can't be totally overcome, and bad social traits won't completely sink a man's attractiveness either if he is HOT! to put it bluntly. It all goes back to the fact that attractive men can get away with saying and doing things to a majority of women, that would find more unattractive men in hot water, perhaps even legal trouble. Ugly guys CANT cold approach women, it doesn't work! PUA/dating coaches who try to get "incels" to believe they can become "Chads" through game are con artists! Average guys can only do it if the girl has beer goggles on, in which case especially in the modern day, that's going to likely open up a new set of problems for the poor bastard!
Height is a big one. I'm pretty short (5'7) and that right there has struck me out before even really getting to know her
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among the most complete blueprint facts about the reality of attraction and dating game 💯
@@MrFredstt Yeah, that's a bad spot for sure. Guy's who are on a an inch or two from 6 ft can get away with being dishonest about their height. It's easy to say you are 6ft if that close to being true in shoes. It's so stupid, but that perception women have about the 3 sixes is so accurate, that even if they can led to be believed you are, it opens up avenues that were closed before. 5'7" is rough though because it's just short enough to exclude the a lot of women right off the bat, and tall enough to also exclude the small minority that have the fetish for the 5'5" and under micro boyfriends. It's really odd too, because it is such an typical height around the world for men and the typical woman is a good 2-3 inches shorter. if that really bothered me, I'd get some 1-2 inch lifts and take charge of that critical first impression. We used to use all kinds of tricks. like wearing the athletic compression shirts to highlight muscles even before that seemed to be a thing, always rolling with a posse etc.
Don't feel bad though, because on the crazy side of the spectrum, I've been called short at 6'1 3/4" by women plenty of times. I guess they had bigfoot fetishes. The loonies are definitely out there and there is nothing you can really do about that.
Check the history of the "Homeless Chad" ('Mendigo Gato', in portuguese) from Brazil. A ex-model who became addicted to drugs and became a homeless. He was "rescued" by the journalist who found him.
Beauty matters.
Cara, acho que no BR dinheiro vale quase tanto quanto looks, já que pobreza aqui é real
O que vc acha*
Dá até desgosto pensar nisso
@@jodsmiguel9270 no brasil quem tem dinheiro consegue pegar mulheres mais bonitas devido a imensa desigualdade que tem se n me engano e a 9 maior do mundo mas esse nao e o ponto, de que importa vc conseguir namorar uma garota mais bonita mas que no fundo ela vai ter desgosto por você e não vai ter verdadeiro amor, uma relação de interesse, dinheiro e status algum vai fazer uma menina se molhar igual uns pretty boy conseguem
@@jodsmiguel9270 Dinheiro nem fodendo vale mais que beleza, no Brasil pesa mais sim mas blz tá acima de tudo, sou milionário saio por aí com carros de 500k e eu seria um 6.5-7.5 acho em aparência pra vc ter ideia, nem sou feio e tenho 181cm solidos. Rei do camarote lá lembra o cara é um 4-5 e só deve pegar pvtinha mais velha 25+.
Claro que tenho muitas opções, eventualmente algumas stacys, modelinhos mas qualquer chad solid 8+ me detona fácil, até porque não é qualquer lugar que da pra ostentar, online mulherada caga pra 99% dos caras, é um ou outro q elas respondem e num shopping ninguém vai saber q vc é rico, tu é só mais um alí. Já um chad qualquer lugar é lugar de paquera, mais fácil q isso só a vida das mulheres medianas e bonitas que tem tudo fácil na vida com praticamente zero esforço.
She has a rescue chad🤣
“Chads with autism” 🤣😂. On a side note this guy is honestly the best black pill youtuber. The others just don’t have the marketability or charisma.
Chads with autism do exist. I am such an example. 6'9", and people tell me I am an 8, maybe a 9 on a gooda day.
But they also tell me they suspect I have Asperger's and many people don't understand why I just can't get a girl.
I even have a daughter, but I pay child support and she lives with her mom.
But I am pretty sure I will die alone.
We do exist.
I know a chad with autism and I absolutely lol'd when the creator mentioned it in the video. Greatest non-roid body I've ever seen, been a model, symmetrical face with a killer jawline and probably a huge package to boot. He can't retain a girls' attention for more than one week/shag however, since he's so odd. Kinda sad since he really just wants a stable relationship it seems.
@@XL1813 What’s sad is he’s still in a better position than a 5/10 normie, who can’t even get laid with his looksmatch, much less a relationship
@@Trynottoblink He is, for sure. I mean he scores often but It never lasts. Which I imagine is frustrating for him because he can't figure out what he's doing wrong and is incapable of changing the odd behavior. The girls just want to get laid with him and then dump him a week later. The reverse pump and dump.
@@Trynottoblink only in the sense that he can see a therapist to fix his autism.
I feel that the first chart is measured too harshly for good looking men. E.g. a guy whose 10/10 in looks with 5/10 in game would still get rejected according to the chart. I respectfully disagree with that. The halo effect concept would shine through even if the perfect looking man had only 1/10 game or less and women would turn a negative into a positive and break rules for Super-Chad.
I want to see a 9/10 man dropped into a situation where he knows five words of the local language and some obese burn victim with all the teachings of redpill for science.
There are idiots on the r/dating subreddit who legit think that a 9/10 Chad would strike out because of a bad personality LOL. It’s obvious these are mostly fat, loser femcels who can’t lock down Chad, but it’s simultaneously funny/frustrating to watch.
@@JohnSmith-ox3gy Lol, it reminds me of when I went to live in spain for a year, I went on a date with a mexican woman, I knew like 5 words of spanish and I sounded retarded, was also very very nervous, almost shaking at the start.
She basically ripped my clothes off when we got to her place.
Then in my late 20s I had 100x the confidence and social ability, had friends from dozens of countries, but dating got 100x harder because I live in the UK where there are tons of ugly women, and plenty of rich chads, and my own looks got a lot worse, i.e. acne, less lean, bad posture.
Now at 31 I've pretty much gone back to looksmaxxing and seeing good results, "confidence" and humour are quite worthless, and I have 0 interest in being a woman's walking, talking personal entertainment system.
Gym, invisalign, veneers, contacts, accutane, there's your personality right there.
Halo effect concept is massive in today's world.
An average looking man would need to be the best stand up comedian who's ever lived to compete with a Chad who's game was farting into a bottle lol
@@JohnSmith-ox3gy Let those 5 words be
"Hello, English small. Thank you"
This is only the first derivative blackpill.
Theres also the positive natural conficdence feedback loop for Chad because of previous success in attracting women.
And for the nonChad the opposite is true, so not only will they have to overcome looks, but also having to fake confidence instilling a negative feedback loop.
True
Game has minimal effect. LMS are always the big 3.
Great analysis even though normie range is from 4-6
7 is chadlite and 8+ is Chad.
I’ve had a similar discussion with someone else in the comments. For my age range (18-25) game is still largely important based on my experience, not so much status. However for 25+ and especially 30+ status/money becomes much more important, looks will always be No1 though by a country mile
@@WheatWaffles Yes in young age game has some value but looks and status (eg- you're football 🏈 captain in college) is important and if you've got both women will naturally be interested in you so game is just an added bonus at this point.
As women gets old they start to settle for beta provider and money 💰 becomes important along with status.
@@amanawake5202 Yes that's a much more sound analysis. One more thing I missed a point you made, I always saw normie as 5-7, if you say 4-6 there is an overlap of 4/10's with sub 5's
@@WheatWaffles 4 is low tier normie and 6 is upper tier normie with 5 being middle ground in my opinion. Obviously these things are subjective so anything goes
Okcupid statistics show that women put 81% of men in range of 1-4 when it comes to looks. So if you are 5 on a scale by looks you are in top 19% of men.
There is nothing more calming than acceptance. If you are below average looks and can't do looks maximising, just accept your fate and focus on other things.
or u can just confidence max. im 158cm and sub 5. i have gf.
@@QWERTY-gp8fdBut is she attractive though? And be honest with yourself. Is she at least a 7/10 in your eyes?
29yo 10/10 face that looks like middle schooler she has most beautiful face i have ever seen from woman without makeup and thats it about physical attractiveness.
flat everything , very short 4'9.
very weird in the head. its a long story.
2 years ago i met her in a bar while i was staying in shibuya.
at first were goofing around and she got drunk and starts asking me "How many woman u r*ped?" I was really taken back I just answered her the truth, I have never r*,ped in my life. So she keeps going explaining how i have r*pist face I was like look I was in just born this way im not bad person.
That wasnt enough she kept and explaining im p3do for talking her and threatened me with accusation of r*pe because i have r*pist face. then for some reason she gave me evidence of her smoking meth and told me im d,ead and she knows some gang members that could unalive me.
the whole deal.
She spout all kinds of ra,cist stuff and was like a one woman de,humanising squad.
while i was listening to her rambling i got hit by vodka bottle from the behind by the guy who thought i was trying to gr,oom her then she had panic attack and pulled out knife sta,bbed the guy in his right leg twice.
i got arrested and spend 22 days in detention due to bullsh1t japanese police who thought i instigated the incident.
she got me out as a probation guarantor and thats when i started relationship with her. she still mumbles about racist bullsh,it about my race.
i really hate it.
beggars cant be choosers so i deal with it.@@keifer7813
I used to be in the Chad with Autism category when i was younger. Though i am not diagnostically autistic, i am subpar at reading social cues and saying the right thing. I also had no father in my life nor brothers so was probably just naturally effeminate. Women used to approach me all the time and i just didn't really know what to say or was too scared to make a move when they were begging for it. The girl just pretty much had to do everything, which occasionally they did tbf.
I wish i could relive those days knowing what i do now.
@Endless Nameless lol foids chasing you down. What a mad world. She probably thought you were being " hard to conquer and mysterious".….. .
You should collaborate with FACEandLMS
That would be a great privilege
and the dudes over at incelmatics cos u guys have good analysis
Or incel tv
It finally happened!
@@kungfuvoodoo9889 link?
It's really hard to not to focus on girls, love, hugs and cuddles that you can't get.
But still just try to accept your defeat and move on. Cry if you want to ease your pain. Listen to good music. Love your parents no matter what. Work hard and earn good amount of money to buy some superficial happiness. That's it. 😇
A sax is like a girl in a relationship u have to treat it with care it always looks good & u can touch it every way I want to
I had a best friend who was a Chad in High School. He didn't have any game, because he DID NOT need to have game.
Every time I came overto his house, he had a different girl on his cheap mattress on the floor (as he didn't even have money either. He was poor.) So hate it all you want but the Black Pill is right. As a normie myself 5-6 at the time, NONE of these cheap ho's who slept with my Chad friend EVER offered me sloppy seconds. EVER.
I repeat he had NO game. They just slept with this dude. Fact.
Yes he can get one night stands, he just can't keep hoes or get love. Everything comes with a cost
"No game" doesn't mean 0 game. Even if he was "just a little bit nervous" it is still a 3/10 bellow average game, which is more than enough for a 9+ chad.
@@kajacx True enough, but when girls pursue you, you don't need much game at all. So yes, this guy had very poor game. 2/10. but got laid 6 times a week.
@@kajacx get a ho with your game then lol
If cheap hoes didnt choose you (a normie 6/10) then its over for me (a sub-5 3/10) never even began
I reviewed this and have a much better grasp of it. I'm 6'4" and shared it with my 5'6"& 5'7" coworkers but they think I'm full of it. I'm older and obese but am perceived as an ALPHA MALE by our female coworkers versus my male peers.
Yeah I would say height is more important in real life, whereas face is more important in online dating. (Because there will be 5'7 men simply claiming they are 6 feet tall and height can't really be seen there) Also online photo editing skills can help- many men are soft-frauding there.
I'm 5'6 and can agree with this. Id say my face is 7 and my body. I don't take it personal anymore or get my feelings all hurt because the taller guy simply doesn't need to have any other qualities. If I were taller I'd be a 8 or 9. It's just something no one can control.
i am 6'7 and i dont agree at all - It never helped me in dating - maybe im just ugly af hahaha
@@lg8021 a good beard smelling body dressing well will do it
@D. J. I dont a problem as a married man. But Im flooded by girls online. As an old guy life if different But Id be ok dude. Pop
I feel game is most relevant to keeping a relationship than getting into one. Once you get a girl, you need to let her know that you have other options, don’t make her the prize, etc. No matter how good looking or rich you are, women will lose internet and respect if you over invest in her and don’t value yourself first. This is where the red pill really shines, IMO. On the other hand, initial attraction/sexual chemistry mostly comes down to LMS, with game helping you in the fringe cases with women 1-2 points higher in SMV, AT MOST. It won’t help a sub 5 subhuman land an 8+. That’s just straight up PUA/blue pill bullshit.
Overall, I’d say it is black pill for short term/casual dating, red pill for long-term dating/marriage.
You cannot have a woman SEXUALLY attracted to you by money my man.
That’s basic red pill. But this guy seems to be confusing red pill with blue pill
@@tonea9851 but by being rude
@@tonea9851 money not exactly but perhaps status/power. As long as she can look up to him in some way. Women typically hate being in relationships where they make more money than their man.
True, but more times than not. The man who makes a ton of money, is rarely home and his woman more times than not doesn't work. She's literally left to her own devices (Social media). I have banged at least 5 women I know of, who had either husbands or boyfriends. Who made 2-3 times more than me a year. They beat me in every aspect, outside of looks and in bed. So while money attract and keep a chick, it doesn't stop her from cheating with a man whose genetically superior.
This isn't the funniest video you've made, but out of all the ones I've seen it's the best (and I haven't seen them all, at least now).
A masterpiece of sociological analysis: the graphic comparison between the two variables, their different value based on the social context, the actions to undertake or NOT to undertake as inefficient based on their correlation, the inclusion of PUAs with relative subdivision into sub-areas ...
Add the analysis and research methods of the social sciences and you can easily write a brilliant research paper on it. Because what I've seen so far of academic origin is a thousand light years away from the topicality and relevance of what you create as content.
Obviously it didn't get the views it deserved due to the length, but you know that too. But really the content is 10!
Anyone who feels the need to impress women, I.e have game, is adapting to what they want, which means really you're just a covert people pleaser. Focus on your health and improving your life for yourself and don't ever feel like a woman is going to change those two things.
Edit: Learning game is almost counter-intuitive if you think that you just need to crack some jokes, what you really need to learn is to not try or care
Yep
I'm totally agree with black pill idea ,even though height and body has number 2 value in this game ,looks is everything ,looks it is a game .However for average looking dudes it is many options to still be able to improve their lives 1 . In poor countries female hypergamy is not that harsh in comparative to US for example, it is still possible to get a female significantly better looking . 2 . If you have a big value in society and all society confirms that you are a leader than you will be successful with females and your looks is going to take value nr 2 .
Poor country is easier than USA? Nah men, different hardware, same software. It's a wisdoms of ancient times, the messages never changed. Just read the Holy books from any religion, they already warned us.
I’ve felt that good looks give me a lot more confidence, but I know it’s not enough
Good video, you left out something MAJOR. You said for 5s who aren't getting laid "It's your fault if you're here".
But your own graph shows that it takes an ungodly amount of "game" for a 5 to get laid, basically grandmaster levels. You even used the phrase "it's easy, just learn game"
"It's your fault" implies that you're not doing something straight-forward. "Oh just get ungodly amounts of game" isn't exactly a small feat.
That's even if we take your own chart/claims. To take it further, I don't think your chart is complete because it's missing a third factor, which I think is far more important than "game", and that is "effort".
You almost kind of imply that "having game" is this thing where you just show up, "game a girl" and she's interested. But you left out the numbers-game part.
If you're a 5, your conversion rate is still going to be atrocious. You almost make it sound like a normie with 10 game and a chad with 10 game will have the same conversion rate. THEY WONT.
A normie with 10/10 game will still have to approach and meet 50 girls to bang 1, whereas a chad might need to meet just a dozen girls.
Heck a chad with 3 game has MUCH better conversion rates than a normie with 10/10 game.
Thank you this was my biggest gripe with the video.
I’m a normie, I’ve been in far too many situations where I’m making a girl laugh, even the table laugh having a good time only to get beaten out by a chad with autism.
Go into an appliance store to buy a microwave oven only to find yourself accosted by an pushy salesman who talks you into buying a washer and drier. It's the SAME thing as game! You're so sick of dealing with the guy you just want out of the store and when you get home, you call and cancel the purchase of the washer drier before they deliver them. You ghost them because you didn't want them to begin with. Women want walk in the club and ONLY look at microwaves ie. Chad, and they are going to ghost that washer/drier being pushed on them (ie. the 5 or 6 with good game) every freaking time. Look at your own experience. We're men. We go to the hardware store and buy what we want. We don't want to be sold something we didn't come in for by a salesman with good game.
Yes!
True , good point
I completely agree. Great structured video! Very clear!
I love it how a whole science has risen from finding women acceptance when it's very easy: Add or reduce probability and that's it.
So well illustrated and informative. Great vids , can’t wait to see more
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As a person who dabbles with data analysis for work. I wouldn't say the differences for acceptance and rejection is a straight line when comparing game and looks. The intentions are good but I wish there was a more advanced statistical approach to this analysis to lessen the damage these comparisons are doing impressionable people.
The impressionable should be responsible to make the decision to look deeper than their bias
Hi WW, I found your channel through your convo with Alex Grace. I'm very curious to your detailed thoughts about why things will get worse in the next ~10 years. You briefly touched this at the end of this video. New video topic idea perhaps?? Keep up the good work man!
People are complicating this way too much. It's always been like this even in old days. Of course, you will get attracted to the best possible physical-looking men or women after that is testing if you match mentally. It's like a school exam test when you want to pick the best possible high school or university everyone knows which they would choose instantly but not everyone will have enough points for it, so in that case, if you have a very low amount of points you either pick what's available or you are left with nothing or you do something about it to change your current situation and improve in order to pick what you like. If you are physically unattractive there is the solution for it as well go to the gym workout for 2 years every day and you will look better than 80 % of men, dress nicely to fit your body style if you are ugly in the face get a beard it will improve things a bit, if you can't grow one experiment with hairstyles, if you are bold then shave it completely instead of looking like a 10 year older fool, some women like shaven heads and on some guys indeed look very nice.
The blackpill is not only related to women, that's a dreadful mistake to think this.
But yes The content of this video is full of truth.
Nature is unfair, and us humans , as nature are unfair as well. That's the grim reality in which we are evolving
life itself is not fair, you were giving a name, a existence you never even wished for and you have to follow the rules even if there was no government and all this shit, we still are inperfect, we´re sinners from the begining, only with god we can be something and gain immortality while this can only happen if we die, but that is the point, when will i die? if i die i will take nothing with me, all what i did was for nothing, all you earned nothing, you cant gain back time, but money for sure yet many people are wasting their time, because of reasons
we´re all victims to our expiernces
Selection by looks makes the most sense in terms of getting perfect genes.
And the axis for choosing women is “looks vs crazy” …. same results.
This is straight up eugenics.
I really enjoy watching these
i was at a football game with a guy who is around looksmatched with me. he is experienced and extremely good with social situations and i am not. i was un confident and he was the life of the the party. more women were interested in him than me simply due to that fact. so many of y’all undercut confidence as a cope but it is extremely important. if you are sub-5 yeah, it’s not gonna help much if at all. but if you are a slightly above average to chadlite then it is EVERYTHING
Honestly, I think both red-pillers and black-pillers over-simplify the situation.
First, the graphs between game and looks would probably need to be fused to be even remotely accurate. Because there is an amount of game (and that involves knowing what your strengths and weaknesses are; Don't go acting ike Superman, if you're looking like Quasimodo) that even repulsive people could pull to make things work. But it's also true that the top 1-5% of men in looks could literally just tell a woman in public to kiss his balls, and there would be a substantial amount of women who would give the offer genuine thought.
Second, the issue with the data. You are unlikely to find the data of relationships that work well; Meaning that your data will be inherently biased to situations that don't work. You will rarely find some dude who is living happily with his partner, despite one of them being a 2 and the other an 8 (I'm not saying this is the norm or that it's super common, but it does happen). And since you likely won't encounter much (if any) such data, that will bias your dataset going forward, resulting in faulty conclusions.
People seriously need to remember the survivorship bias.
Third, women's tastes are human; Meaning that they are not a monolith. Sure, the average woman will go for the stereotypical himbo, but that's what? 40-45% of the population? At most? The rest will have varying tastes, some of which will end up including people who look like a Shoggoth on their best days.
In short, tastes vary, just because someone thinks you're a 1 doesn't mean that the next chick won't think you're THE 11 of her life.
As closing, a disclaimner; I'm not making this comment to convince anyone to start dating; I'm in full support of MGTOW - specifically, I'm for the individualistic version of it, where it is YOU who choses your own way; Even if that ultimately ends up including a settling down with a woman, or never again looking at one of them.
The reason why I'm doing it is to give some much-needed nuance to this discussion.
Also, if, as a black-piller you still want to date, the only recommendation I can give you is to go MGTOW for a while; Build yourself up, find pursuits in life that matter to you besides trying to fuck, buy a sex-toy if you're too thirsty by default for that, and become your own person; You might think that it won't matter, and sure, it might not, but being a depressed mess will not only nuke your game, but also your looks, so it can only worsen your chances.
I agree and wanted to add that game is so much more than talking and acting either confident or nervous. It is the strategy of getting laid, which can be your logistics, your friend groups, where and how you meet girls, where and how you go on dates, ect.
@@xJoeKing "Et cetera" is abbreviated as "etc"; not "ect". I'm not sure why I keep seeing this misspelling. Is dyslexia rising or something?
@@man0utoftime it’s literally not that deep
@@abyss272 Didn't say it was deep. There are just a lot of semi-illiterate people out there. How does someone read even a modest amount as a native speaker and not know how to spell basic words?
@@man0utoftime it's not that they don't care how to spell, it's that they're not pedantic
I liked this analysis. Keep it going. One thing i always wanted to know, how can a chad have poor game? As they benefit from continuous positive during their formative years growing up.
One possibility is they got attractive as they got older. It's what happened to me. I will say the game comes quick though once everything you say is received well. Tell a bad joke, and the woman is laughing while tossing her hair and won't take her eyes off you. My confidence grew very quickly after all of these type of encounters.
Great Video, please create more, this is very valuable!
Dude your channel is a masterpiece. It's like the last stone for the infinity glove. All these pills explained in perfect manner.
good analysis
Thanks for your support!
@@WheatWaffles high IQ content
@@MauriceLeviejr Thanks for your support!
I watched the PWF livestream yesterday. I'm surprised at the amount of men that are intimidated by statistics and immediately attack you for your age and lack of experience with girls.
This is one of my favorite channels
A sub-5 with game is like putting lipstick on a pig.😂😂😂
im a 19 yo male , im 5'6 , lean asf , cutting edge jaw , above average eyes .
i get a decent amount of choosing signals from women .
i am writing this to support the blackpill . the blackpill is not always bout being ugly or attractive .
you better believe that ive been around enough females to swear on my life that life is genuinely better without them . my mind automatically erased 50 % of problems when i gave up on women because of their never ending chase for attention and need for games in order to be loyal . females are just a part of life , not the prize of life .
the blackpill has taken away my insecurities ( at least physical ones ) . the blackpill is real therapy .
prioritize health , wealth , and freedom , because women will always disqualify even hot guys because of their unsatisfied nature . Disqualify them before they can even think of leaving you because you are worth more than a bunch of headaches and being nagged for not being enough .
I DONT HATE WOMEN , I JUST UNDERSTAND THEM.
all the best on your journey men .
Life is definately much easier and calm without them. I moved countries and then covid started and after a while on a break from women I don't thirst for them as much. I missed sex on the beginning but after a while I got over it. I'm 40 now and experienced few relationships - some better some worse but now I just have such an aversion to women, their games, their need for attnetion, their nagging - oh god, I turned into a blackpiller lol
You sound more like a MGTOW than an INCEL. No disrespect. You made good points.
@@jankowalski6691 do you have any kids?
@@aaronfitzgerald9109 Nope. Why?
You should pair this with a normal distrubution graph. That'd be interesting.
Very good video, it gives me even more confidence believe it or not.
Edit: ok, the future doesn’t look good
Another awesome video. You are really knocking it out of the park with these.
I was a "normie-cel" for most of my life until the last few years. I'm now over 40, starting to bald, let my fitness/looks go, income/profession in decline, unpopular politics for Twin Cities, broken family, plenty of resentments, et cetera.
So now I've pretty much been an incel for the last few years. It's been very black pilling. The only things I can think of to maybe improve my situation is to move to a more "conservative" area (I'm properly moderate/libertarian) like most of Florida. Maybe a job other than auto mechanic. Not confident it would be any better anywhere else, or even be able to make more, or even as much doing it.
Could maybe be a 6 or weak 7 if I looks-maxxed again, but the last 15 years suggests it's just not worth it at all. :/
Bro its funny. You are 40 and you feel hopeless. Iam under 18 and i feel like i will die alone as a virgin. I guess its not our fault that we are fuked up
This is why conservative people recommend marriage in one's 20s. There's no realistic chance for a working-class sub-5 man over the age of 40 to keep a woman in his life, and since marriage and family are what gave many throughout history meaning and purpose in their lives, not having it not only endangers the person but also makes them unhappy as it deprives them of things humans need to be satisfied with life.
Florida is the harshest state I have ever been in, I've been to 47. Looks are all that matters here. This is definitely not the place to smash for normals. Take your skills & money overseas & you can have a new girl every week. I am homeless, women know it, & I still get plenty of Go signals from women in Florida because looks are all they care about for random smashing. They are like men in the 70's, your status means a lot to gold diggers, but not to the women who just want to smash & turn the page. Florida is brutally superficial.
Was an exchange student in Bloomington in 1979. JFK High. A white working class paradise. The girls blonde gorgeous and sweet. Now mostly black and Hispanic and Bloomington ranked as "dangerous".
What has gone wrong with America 🇺🇸?
Really enjoyable video. I think it would be interesting to do a part 2/3 where you look at...
1. Status: how does wealth/success affect this.
2. what level of person you can pick up (ie if you are a 10/0 looks/game can you get a 10/10) (you could also include status in this after explaining status' role).
More great content, WW! Absolutely black pill analysis makes sense. As a young guy, I was fit, about an 8 looks wise, and I had ZERO game. But I did OK. Your environment analysis is spot on. Absolutely agree that game is a thing for normies . It might get him over the line,, but it still doesn’t mean he’ll beat out Chad.
all these 8's and 9's with no pfps lmao
Looks = Personality
Height = Confidence
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i was sitting with a bunch of girls at university, I'm a mature student in my 30s and these 20year olds were all pining over this young good looking guy who was 19, tanned, dark hair, 6ft2, fit surfer guy and he was as dumb as a door knob. One of them said to me, no offence but your old lol. The black pill is correct 100%. They literally sat in front of me and openly talked about how hot this guy was, it was insane, lucky I have a thick skin and am MGTOW and just accept my age and reality. Age is another problem, being in your 30s is way worse for hooking up with young chicks, as you become invisible. In your 30s you only attract the ugly leftovers.
Wrong!! Young girls 20+ love men in their thirties. Men in their 30’s generally have more masculine features more financially stable and are more dominant. A mans value peaks from 30-40 and can extend to 50.
@@Jay-xb5du You can belive what you want to, just telling you my exsperiance. The red pill is all lip service and isn't based in reality.
@@Jay-xb5du not really if you cant get girls at your 20s you are not getting them in 30s
@@Jay-xb5du not really if you cant get girls at your 20s you are not getting them in 30s
Thank you so much Waffles. Thumbs up and greetings from Kraut-land !
i watched your videos only for the charts, analysis and statistical approach hahaahah, love it!
there is a minimum threshold for both looks and game, meaning that below a certain level the other doesn't matter; it's a sure rejection.
so I would draw the line starting at, say, 3 in each axis. below 3 in either game or looks means getting rejected, game over.
above 3 in both, one has to sum game + looks and score, say, a 10 to get accepted. so if your looks is a 3 you need at least a 7 in game, and vice versa. now keep in mind, looks and game are subjective to a certain extend, which means the line is blurred depending on the woman one is interacting with, so the outcome in not that clear cut as it may seem.
You’ve NEVER seen a woman approach a very, very good looking tall guy and basically make him do no work? Not buying it.
This is Cap. Personality and Confidence will take you a long way. It’s all about your mindset. Keep y’all’s heads up kings!
Personality only comes into equation during a long relationship, and confidence only comes from success, which is the same as putting the cart before the horse. Women value looks > status > wealth.
Absolutely cope
“Observing a process changes the process“
Again a very informative video. Keep up the good work mate.
I´d say that in real life, it´s probably closer to redpill theory, because you usually at least get a chance to speak before being rejected. In online dating however, the choice is often based primarily on looks, so it´s the blackpill stuff all the way.
And if money counts as game then it's easy. You find super attractive women in their 20's going out with literal sacks of potatoes in their high 50's because they're rich and got a lot of status xD.
@@oblivion9202 Right, trophy wives. Personally, I never understood the satisfaction these rich losers get from it. These women are basically a level (or half a level) above a prostitute. Almost none of these girls are genuinely interested in these men. All they are trying to do is to convince the guy to marry them *without* signing a prenup, just so they can later divorce them and get rich. Failing that, they just want to live the high life for a time before they dump the guy, or he dumps them after he catches them with their actual boyfriend. If you want to pay women for sex, you will only attract women who like to be paid for sex. If you want a solid long-term relationship, there has to be more to it than money and status. And if you just want to get some pussy, why not just skip the annoying tap-dance and hire a high-end escort? I seriously don´t get it.
I would think a decaying exponential would be more accurate than a linear line. As in it's approaching impossible when at 1 on looks but not reaching/converging.
It's not just about confidence and looks there's also decisions. While u may not attain the looks or confidence you want deciding, deciding to work out, to not double text, to be less nice and more focused on yourself, etc are things u can start doing if you realize you should.
These videos boost my ego so incredibly high
WW, another excellent presentation...thanks for that. Question: With reference to your "future forecast", how might a potential escalation in the MGTOW philosophy adaptation affect women's selection proclivity as the laws of "Supply & Demand" reduce their available choices?
I think where this is going in the future is this: Female hypergamy will continue to spiral upward to the point where females will be more than happy to share Chad with several other females. Chad will basically have a harem of women that are impregnated by him, have his children, Chad provides no financial support, no real commitment/exclusive relationship and continues to add to his harem. Basically, what you see now with single moms ,who where nocked up by Chad, but on a much larger scale/more prevalent. The interesting question is when all these single moms are cast out of Chad's harem who are they going to turn to for support/help? My guess is the same people that support them now: the Beta Simp Blue Pill male! They maybe harder to find in the future if this Red/Black pill education continues/spreads.
@@dgomes1967 Agreed - And as history is a great indicator…
When i saw the "Chads with Autism" i was like "oh, thats me!". I have had may experiences where women liked me at first, but stopped being into me for reason i can't explain.
Yeah same xD Multiple blondes were hitting on me back in university but then both stopped and ghost me completely for no real reason lol. People just don't want to be around me.
Looking at your TH-cam you are definitely sub 5 mate
@@AlexSuperTramp- Yep, he ain't even close to ''Chad-lite'' yet and actual Chad lol.
@@AlexSuperTramp- Well i certainly don't see myself that way. But it is nice to have your opinion cause that gives me data on how i may be percieved in your country.
@@rudy1999 You may say that about my appearance. But behaviorally i can definately confirm that my experience coincides with what he described as being "chads with autism". Although that was over 7 years ago and i was in much better shape.
I hope that the future will be like this because even 7s will fall in my category so they can see what's really like.
Fantastic work man
I think going from skinny to ripped or fat to ripped adds more like 2 point to SMV if you got good results. This 1 point no matter what you do isn't always correct but definitely can be.
The issue with this is that it's assuming it's an avg women (which is fair). If the girl is sub 4/10 then a every +6/10 man has a smooth sail with her and a sub 5/10 has chance with game. Meanwhile if the girl is 10/10 than 5/10 won't pull it off even with 100/10 game.
Exactly, most of us watching this video could easily pull a fat or ugly girl if we wanted to
@@imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266 yep that's our looksmatch, we're all standardcels
@@afriserrrr2898 Nah, if everyone went for women that were actually on their same smv level and talked to women in real life instead of tinder they can get laid.
Okay man...you are like my favorite Black Piller. Great great analysis!
One element to the concept that you have discussed geomaxing. As you have said before your looks have to meet a certain threshold before your other qualities play into the equation. One way around this is to find ways to be around women organically without having to approach them. As an example working as a bartender or waiter or a DJ. Since you're not directly approaching these women they will not reject you right away and so your other qualities have a chance to shine through. Obviously in a work environment this is not ideal to date coworkers but it is still a bit of a cheat code nonetheless. Besides those ways that I mentioned what other ways do you guys use to utilize this tactic
Chad sets the bar but Chad is few and far apart.
Sub5 Men will not have much success in this dating market.
Most Men however, fall into the Normie section, where game makes a difference in whether or not you get laid.
Great video. Best Blackpill content on the net right now.
besides gaming and looks there are two other factors: the amount of alcoholic drinks the woman had and the social control
Nice work, keep it up! A few comments as a feedback. 1. It would help focusing to the slides more, if you stopped wobbling the cursor. 2. I'd like your reasoning to back up your statement about steepening of the slope in the future.
If you're ugly, like me, there's only a few things you should do. That is being confident and secure within yourself. Having your shit together (don't be a loser with no career or goals). Be clean and staying on top of your personal hygiene. And then working out. Also keep accept the fact that some women just won't date you if you're ugly and be ok with that.
The line between accept and reject is not static, it is highly dependent on the "grade" of the woman. You did acknowledge this, still it should be an inherent part of such an analysis. A 4-looks 7-game guy will not be able to get an 8-looks woman, but he might be able to get a 6, which he would not have been able to do without sufficient game.
The practical takeaway for all men is dumb simple - improve your looks, improve your game. Doesn't matter if you're a 0 or an 9 in game and/or looks - both will only do you good.
@@user-zg2bx4oz2p I disagree. Girls do date up, but u can increase your value with game, money and status. A 4 with good game and good status can get a 6, even an occasional 8. Nevertheless, that is not my main point. My main point is everything helps, increase looks, game, finance. No matter what u were able to get before, u will get better by improvimg all these facets.
I have been doing pick up for 8 years. Everything that you explained in the video is true.
I am a 6 in looks and an 8 in game. If you watch the videos in my channel you can see that I have not problem picking up women.
You are not a 6.
You’re an 8 in looks dude
You're easily a Tyrone looks matter but without game u can't close
You do really good job.
The first one all day! I'm arguably a 7-8 and I suffer really bad with my mental health and am unable to use game when I am anxious. I get almost no girls so I would deffinitely agree with the red pill theory. One of my best mates is a 4-5, his game is 10 and he has chicks chasing him left right and centre. I firmly believe hard black pill theory stems from lack of confidence. Looks work initially in terms of 'oohhh he looks confident' , but the women judgement is only truly based on what comes out your mouth and how you carry yourself. A good looking guy who is nervous stands 0 chance IMO
I think the graph closest to reality would have a parabolic curve starting leftward from the 10 Looks/ Zero Game and then continually curving upward until it reaches the 10 Game/4 Looks point. That's what I've seen to be true after observing thousands of couples.
Sounds about right. Confidence is 50-90% of the battle
@@stevenroshni1228 No, as I just said, looks and skill in key areas like game comprise the majority of a man's success, at least with young women below the age of 26 or so.