Scott Galloway: The Real DANGER Of Dating Apps
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- Scott Galloway discusses the true impact of dating apps on society.
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I honestly would like to see these apps go bankrupt
Women would not allow it. Its having men on sale from the comfort of their own home.
Why go outside and meet men in your home town when you can talk to the hunk that lives in Brazil or the rich investment banker in newyork.
Correction :- The FAKE investment banker in New York.@@jakd2962
Something else would just pop up
@@jakd2962 you know there's more men on apps than women right?
They must pay in massive class action suit before they go. It’s a HUGE scam. 90% of fem profiles are AI-generated fake profiles.
I have gone off and on with the online dating apps. My profile doesn’t have what my occupation is because I don’t believe that should be something that every female should know. I have gotten connections with some attractive women but I noticed one of the first questions they will ask you is “What do you do?” and if your occupation isn’t up to their standards then the conversation goes stale real quick or you don’t hear from them. I was telling my buddy I said “Man I miss dating in the 90’s and early 2000’s when you could approach a woman and actually have a conversation with her. They could actually see and feel your personality rather than just relying what is on a screen.”
Dude, go outside and approach women… They are outside…
@@Chikou14219outside staring at their phone
@@Scottwilldtalk to her anyway
Its not rocket science mate. Women need a man with a good occupation because most women want to have kids one day. Which means at some point or most women of her live she will be out of work. So whos gonna provide? Like come on…
My grandson came to me the other day and asked me what do I do when a women tries to humiliate me for trying to start a conversation. I said first thats her issue and you should understand she has issues and just rule her out instantly. Second, I said stand your ground, turn it back on her in a calm manner. Tell her being short or cruel to ( people ) is not very attractive.
It's like people are skipping steps #1 through #9 and trying to get it all in step #10 when it comes to getting a real relationship
Facts
Yep and not just with relationships but with everything.
Profit for dating apps = less matches, more swiping. They don't want you to get off the app. The incentive structure doesn't encourage matches but instead endless swiping and chatting
I think we can all agree that it's key that you get out and talk to people in person
Honestly it's a vicious cycle because say you're in that bottom 50%, you experience the disappointment of hardly getting any real chances. Say your economic situation changes drastically and suddenly you're in the upper 10% & getting 10x more attention, you aren't going to pick one person & leave but you're gonna stay, get greedy and eat as much as you can because how easier it suddenly is for you now. The women also adopt, they still won't go for the bottom 50% but now they too play around with the top 10% or so. I think a lot of us dudes we eventually become the problem too. You hate the game until you're winning and that is why we can never fix this for all. It's like corruption, everyone is against it until you the one in a position of power & now you start protecting the messed up system so you can keep eating.
I completely understand your point.
Yeah... Sucks to be at the bottom
I am not shaming men at the top but I will never help out a woman in peril chivalry is f u c k ING dead
Could not have said it better myself
underrated comment
I went out with a good looking man, both of us mid fifties. I was amazed at just how much attention was projected on him from men and women, young and old. He even wore a fake wedding ring at dance classes. It wasn’t something he enjoyed and it had a bearing on how he was with people and his life. When we split up 3 years ago I knew he would be ‘snapped up’ and so he was! But people just see the outside beauty, and I saw that clearly as not such a great thing, and when I got to know him, I saw his inner integrity and shyness. I think sometimes looks don’t match with character and it taught me to look deeper and not make snap judgements.
A woman said to me the other day that if a man approached her in a club, she’d probably think he was after one thing. She might not be wrong, but with some men they’re just looking for a partner. I hope not too many women think this
No I'd happily chat to a guy who had the courage to approach me in a bar club. The only successful men on dating apps are the guys looking for hook ups.
Literally every guy on an app or a dating site is playing the numbers to see how fast he can get laid. That's why myself and a lot of women stopped using those things. None of us wants a bunch of dick pics clogging up our DMs.
I agree.
The thing is is that clubs or actually almost as bad a place to go looking for a person of quality as a dating app. Most women in that environment have five tenths of a second to decide whether Donna Man actually is worth the other time or not. You're far better looking at and coffee houses for book stores or church
I dont
Kindness is the most important to me.
Kindness is the most important to me as well. It's too easy for someone else to speak for us without even recognizing other opinions.
While I am not entirely against using online dating apps, it's worth noting that some women use them to seek validation rather than solely for the purpose of finding a relationship. I suggest utilizing various channels, both online and offline, to increase your chances of finding a compatible partner. For both men and women.
Validation? No. They are seeking a mate
@@gmar7836 They are seeking a mate with male models exclusively? Why dont they want an equal?
Yes, they like to feel wanted, all of us do
They also use dating apps to exploit men; eg foodie calls, demands that he pay for rent/other living expenses, being flown out, ad nauseam
@@AngelicaLWoods Thats true. Validation and the need of feeling wanted is something we all have. Its just when it swings too much in one direction it is a problem.
Get rid of dating apps, get rid of only fans, and definitely get rid of social media thenat least could get
In the same way that we had to ban cocaine, heroin, and opium off of drug store shelves in 1913, it's 110 years later and we have a new threat to society. Seems like every century we have to get real and see how we just can't handle certain things as a society. These dating apps including things like Instagram need to be banned. At this point, it's a national security threat. Not enough babies are being born to sustain things long term. The problem will compound itself. This will lead to societal collapse down the road. In 20 years or so we could really be seeing the signs of how screwed we are. Just wait until there's not nearly enough workers paying taxes into the system because people simply don't exist. The problems will snowball from there and it won't be fixable.
A man that i really loved, dumped me just cause we were young and he felt something better was out there, thanks to the apps. The apps are horrible, nothing like real life dating.
@@arjulalathe apps are awful .. if you are above average looking and doing well career wise - you won’t run out of options. The more options the less happier we are
@@brianmeen2158 agreed! Think that's one of the reasons our parents generation stuck together as they really didn't have so many options!
Women are equally disinterested in real life meeting just as on dating apps.
I did 1000 approach in real life and met 100 speed dating partners.
There were zero results.
I had at least some dates from Tinder, which I still don't like.
Scott did not mention how porn, for young men, has transformed their reward dopamine receptors and how that has played a giant role in de-motivating so many men into pursuing & working for women’s attention. He also did not mention the bigger rooted problem of capitalism, and how it’s exploiting men and their relied addiction to porn and correlating that back to the dating market. Its really dehumanizing women and desensitizing men.
Some interesting points, but why is it a specific problem of capitalism?
@@lochnessmunster1189 Because the more accessible and addicting porn is, the more money Hollywood makes. It has also become way more extreme because that’s what gets views. There are no limits to the destruction of young minds. It’s designed to create failure in relationships when all men care about is objectification-all in the name of $$ and destroying nuclear families. Before the internet, there were only playboy magazines and video tapes people didn’t impulsively watch several times a day. Now anyone can watch porn anytime and people do-men and women alike and it’s destroying everyone. I don’t think these choices are by accident. It’s all about the worship of a dollar, and what better way to make money then to do it through porn. There are a million ads, they sell your data, there are 20 million views one video. That’s getting a lot of people to consume your content. Add inflation on top of it and nobody can really make a family work.
Which is why it says in the Bible to wait until you find your forever mate. It's the DRIVE
Why not blame Jehovah and Allah while youre at it.
Everything to dodge that sweet accountability!
@@VonGoldfinger women aren't accountable for men's behavior
It's purely about looks. In the full interview, Scott ignores this and abstracts this with the phrase "online attractiveness" which he attributes to wealth, location, and other factors. He's completely wrong, it is down to genetic/physical attractiveness and that's it. This is old news to everyone else. Make a profile on any dating site for a 5'5 South Indian millionaire doctor who loves kids & puppies who also does charity work vs. a white 6'1 male model who is broke. The results and responses, or lack thereof, are so predictable that it is not even funny. It's not complicated.
Its the same with women - the unattractive ugly girl doesnt get the attention the gorgeous girl gets - same thing
Agreed 100%. Just ignore females punish them by refusing them attention and validation while you work on yourself. That's the secret.
It's shocking how few people are aware of this. They've done studies since the 60s showing that people pick dating partners based almost entirely on physical appearance. Attractive people are always chosen more than unattractive people, regardless of any non-physical traits. Frankly, there are probably some cases where plastic surgery might help. But that's just too sad for most people to accept, so they tell people it couldn't be an issue of appearance.
While this to some degree is true I think the online dating world has exacerbated the problem significantly because all you see essentially is a profile pic, all the other nuance, potential chemistry, even scent (he was right about that) are completely swiped away
This is so true! You don't even need to make the differences that wide, because modern women reject any man who's not a certified Chad. My personal experience: I'm 6'3", average build, 7/10 overall looks, high IQ, and independently wealthy. Yet, I haven't had a girlfriend in several years. I have to conclude that if I had six-pack abs and a chiseled jawline, then my inbox would be blowing up. I do get occasional 'likes' on dating apps, but I don't actually match very often because the women that swipe right on me are mostly 3's and 4's. If women were willing to judge themselves objectively and give guys at their own level a chance, then none of us would be single. But, they only swipe right on men that are out of their league. And, yeah, it's 100% based on looks.
I’m hoping that people see the light and stop using these dating apps. I’m 22 and have never been on one because it’s so unnatural and I prefer to get into relationships organically and take my time. They just feel sinister to me. A lot of my friends are on dating apps and they say that mainly they end up having one night stands and just feel used. 🤷🏼♀️
News flash. People get used even when they meet offline. Dating apps/technology are not the problem. If you can’t figure out basic truths like that, you’re not intelligent enough for this conversation
Kit Kat if they are sleeping with men on the first night what else do they expect is going to happen? Are they really that gullible?
Apparently they are into one night stands.
Good. Is that why young broads tell one another herpes is normal?
Interesting guest - thank you for the thought-provoking talk. I like these kinds of settings when you let your guest express themselves without interrupting... However, you don't need "bigger" guests. Bigger is not necessarily better. ... and doesn't give the guests you've already had due credit.
Dumb comment
It's less about economics and more about looks/genetics.
Explain Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. That's why that old Chappele joke of a rich old guy driving a ferrari as a trap for 'bitches' works.
Imagine a guy stuck in this loop , feeling isolated, and not knowing this is a pandemic affecting everyone and wondering why the world treats him as a waste of life
That's me
@@mikeophoven4527 this book called Platonic is a good way out. and work. the internet is not real life. and unfortunately now a days it takes work to get to know people and let people know you. It does suck right now and it aint your fault. but you can make the life you want
You guys are still in a pandemic? I live in the UK, and were not in pandemic status anymore but the mindset and habits I've picked up since then have stayed stuck on me. 🥴
I think he's referring to the pandemic of single lonely men rather than the 2020 one lol @@shoot_the_glass5654
As an "adult" mentor mentor mentor young men and women....especially young men! Volunteer at the local high school and help out any way you can. Be the big brother they never had but always needed!
Will make no difference
This will just make you look like a huge creep.
@@Ferien7 It's a legit method for normie-tier guys. Not everyone os a truecel like you are.
We've got programs to help people become more viable. What we need is people to reach out and work with communities to figure out what has changed and what needs to be done. This is a unique situation
Unique situation but aside from
Enforced marriages - what do you recommend? I don’t see a fix for this
@@brianmeen2158 I don't see a fix for this either. As a matter of fact, it's only going to get worse.
Women want to give their prime to Chad and now Brad is wishing up and saying no to marriage
I read that the law of attraction only works when the intentions behind the manifestation are pure. This understanding has allowed me to embrace the law of attraction as before I knew this, I could not embrace the idea that people call bad things into their lives. I can now embrace the law of attraction and manifest positive experiences into my life.
People need to conentrate on making friends 1st. Then romance can follow. There is to much stigma and pressure on dating. Form friendships with like minded people
Thanks that was inspiring. People approach with the wrong mindset these days.
❤
Friendships have NEVER turned into relationships for me. A man has to be open about his intentions
@@Ulfrich_Stormcockexactly.
No, because women put out for dudes they want. If she wants you as a friend, she does not want you as a boyfriend.
Speaking for myself, but I don’t want to be someone’s “guard rail.” Lifting my mate up from time to time, sure, but if there’s not a baseline of self-motivation, we’re not compatible.
Ironically how the men are always told that you need to change this or that to improve this or that while women always get understanding for their difficult situations they are in etc. It sends out the message that we are forever doing thihgs wrong or incorrectly while sometimes society can just be quite hard and cruel for a man, this should also be expressed in my opinion.
Making us take the blame for everything is just how society gets men ready for marriage
Great video, I wonder what percentage of the profiles on these apps are scammers
My beef with all this is, when I have given less successful, less intelligent, or less attractive men the opportunity for genuine connection, they lie or try to degrade or cheat anyways. If they are so thirsty, why not cherish a genuine woman? Something doesn't add up. Maybe it's because where I live, there are more eligible women than men, so some of the women are desperate and tolerate such behaviour?? Over my dead body will I accept that.
What percentage?
It's like we upset the natural order of things and now are wandering why all the consequences.
Bingo. Nature will eventually correct itself
High socioeconomic status (SES) does not automatically translate into relationship skills. Relationships require complex skills like empathy and communication and a good attachment style that cannot be bought. Success in relationships depends on the personality and values of the individual, not socioeconomic status. I wish people didn't have such limiting beliefs in this relationship, such as that economic status = relationship ability.
Scott missed the #1 signal for women- GENETICS. Height, dark features, overall body shape (muscles, jawline, full hairline). Women fully respond to men with those. 5’6… bald… no muscles gets ZERO on dating sites.
Attractiveness is front loaded on dating apps. If you aren't hot you probly shouldn't be on there (male or female) bc the focus is 100% on appearance. You should work on getting your confidence up and trying to approach ppl in person. Same girl that will swipe left on you on an app would give you her number in a bar if you have good conversation.
Also there are way more men on dating apps then women, which doesn't help men. Especially when 80% of dudes are using the same opening lines, have the same things in their bio, and asking to go to coffee on the first date. Not only are you not conventionally attractive, you're not setting yourself apart from the other 50 dudes looking at this one girl's profile.
@@bonitaapplebum0088
That's wishful thinking.
Do you think a woman who has her app teeming with hot guys will start talking and give her number to a less attractive stranger in a bar? She doesn't even have the time to hook up with all the hotter guys in the app. She won't even look at you or she'll reject you in a condescending way.
The trick is to find a woman who doesn't use social media or dating apps, and that's a unicorn, not a woman.
And don't get me started with "coffee dates not being appropriate". I agree that a paid trekking tour to the Himalayas or a month of scuba diving in the French Polynesia would set you apart from the other guys, but come on...
@@asdzt123 serious question, do you actively date or do you just get all your dating information from reddit? Conventionally less attractive men have cheat coded their way to pulling women with personality and charm for centuries. Cut the screen time and observe real life. Of the people coupling up around you, are they mostly women who are 5-6s with men who are 8-9s or are they people relatively on the same level? Most people are dating people who are the same or similar as them. Ugly people date ugly people, hot people date hot people, rich people date rich people, poor people date poor people, etc.
Wear height increasing shoes, wear a hair piece, and work out in the gym. Problem solved
@@lander77477 pffffttt
I don't understand why young women have to be the guardrails for men in their peer group. We've struggled enough, the odds against us, the deck is stacked against women. If young ladies can hustle to get their degrees, that job, that house and that nice car, what in the eff is wrong with the men? I thought they were stronger than women? I thought they said we were unequal in favor of men? This all sounds like bull. These dudes need to be accountable for self. Get outta your momma's house and get your survivors game on.
YES! Thank you.
1000% agree! Fantastic! 💪❤️
But how will that fix the skewed landscape dating apps and social media are creating for men vs for women? Most young people use them without realizing the algorithmic manipulations, and they're designed to be addictive while squeezing money out of desperate men.
There is no fix. It's only gonna get worse.
It’s not a problem. In nature, only elite genetically superior males mate. All the rest fail. That’s nature. That’s normal. What you’re seeing is just how nature works. There is no “fix”
It's way worse then that. Looks is also extremely important. Women more and more want 3% of top most physically attractive males.
Facts
I mean... When the ratio of men to women are really high on dating apps, of course women are gonna be more picky
@@sselemaNrM sure but then you can't complain when those guys do you wrong since every single woman is going after them
So many times I've heard women express their unsafety/anxiety when approached even in such an innocuous situation as waiting in a line for a coffee so why would I exacerbate that by expressing interest. Asking someone out isn't worth making someone else feel worried or unsafe.
Thank you for telling the truth
Last place I'd look for love is a dating app 😆🤣
Dating app is another tool to use. Most single people are on a dating app. To ignore that is to ignore reality
you can also be ignoring reality being on dating apps....Scrolling right is not an achievement for meeting a new mate. Going out into the world and socializing is
@@TheGoblinn I put it to you that that isn’t a particularly viable option these days. Women don’t want to be disturbed by random men while they’re out, most will have their earphones in to avoid such situations where a man might approach them. It’s expensive simply going out and trying to socialise to meet women, you might make friends if you’re lucky this way, but you’ll just be seen as a creep if you’re trying to get a date. But, do enlighten us on how you’ve got such positive reactions from randomly interacting with women, I’m sure we’d all love to hear 😂
As a woman, I would appreciate a man who is interested comes up to me in a soft tone, I can reject them if necessary but they’re immediately better looking for actually trying.
Let me tell you, as a gringo, living in mexico, many years ago, when single, dating apps were really really fun, but I met my wife in a bar.
A big problem is the use of pornography and that boys start at the ages of 10 . Boys are expecting their girlfriends to perform these sex acts and a lot of girls are staying single. Men need to talk to boys about this. The men need to be helping the boys as men and boys dont listen to girls and women.
Wether you ask a girl out on line or in a line, social media has created hyper-hypergamy. Their expectations of men is hilarious.
Hope a lot of women are into cats because the top 2% of men that are deemed relationship worthy on these apps is an incredibly small number of people.
@@rodneywoodcock8235 totally!
@@rodneywoodcock8235 And on top of that, those top 2% guys know they are the top 2% so they will never commit to any one woman
@@rodneywoodcock8235Cats don't watch pornography and disengage emotionally so a lot of women are choosing to be single as it isn't as stressful and draining.
You could level up to meet expectations. Men expect the same thing from women. Are you going to deviate from your wishlist? Probably not.
“Meet women at work.” LOL that’s called s3xual harassment Scott
Academics like him are too stupid to understand life intuitively and as a result are out of touch with reality. People need to stop listening to people like him
Most people meet their spouses at work
@@bonitaapplebum0088 not these days, sir
@@ryu_street_fighter561 are you unemployed or something
@@bonitaapplebum0088 you clearly have never worked a day in your life
I have been playing around with the idea of throwing singles events or something. As a young woman, I think there’s a lot of potential for creating a space / event with the purpose of promoting connections. This “safe space” might help men and women who worry about seeming creepy by approaching others etc. I think if we could find a way to make them cool again and bring in mainly young people (18-35) who are struggling most with these issues it would be extremely popular.
There are YT videos of these singles events and it turns out to be 90% females. It all goes back to the same principles discussed in this video. All women are looking for 9's and 10's because they truly believe that's what they all deserve and why would any man in their right mind subject themselves to this type of humiliation and rejection?
that doesnt work because most women arent looking for a soulmate best friend, they would all want to date the one hot/richest/bestest guy that comes to your events and would rather ignore the rest of the bunch. Theres a small group of women who pick guys simply for being compatable and being besties with, they meet them in college or church and stay with them. Women arent struggling to find men they would be compatible with, they just dont seem to want to. If youre a young female under 25 you have a choice abbundance and there are alot of social situations youre welcome at, use it.
Might as well call it girls night out because men ain’t going. Why would any man step into that minefield in this climate.
No one has the balls to say the obvious truth: AVERAGE WOMEN SHOULD BE DATING AVERAGE MEN. If women were to actually give guys on their own level a chance, then we would no longer have a dating crisis in America.
Hmmm that almost sounds like how life was before 2012.
Dudes who are sub 5s should not be swiping right on 7s and above and crying about not being able to get dates
@@bonitaapplebum0088 Fine. Then why does that same reasoning not apply to women? I'll say it again, if women were selecting men on their *SAME* level, then the current dating crisis would not exist. Currently almost all single women are chasing the same 10% of men. And, those men at the top are more than happy to plow through all those women. As a result no one is forming long-term loving relationships anymore. This is not a problem that men can fix, because as you pointed out, men are not the ones hooking up with people out of their league.
@@gordongekko2781 there are way more men than women on apps so this insistence of what women want based on apps is already laughable. All this data and statistics yall rely on has killed your ability to observe and see patterns in real life. Look around where you live. Ppl are absolutely coupling up with ppl on their level. Poor people are with poor people, rich people are with rich people, hot people are with hot people, mid people are with mid people...
@@bonitaapplebum0088 YES! Exactly. That's the half of the population that is doing it right. The statistic is 45% of women will end up alone, not 100%. And, your examples support what I'm saying -- when people date people on their own level, then it produces lasting results. The problem is because of dating apps and social media, more and more women are trying to date way above their level, and those women are just getting used over and over again.
This is thought provoking
I don’t agree with the part at the end where he says “guys need women to tell them to get a job, get in shape, for a girlfriend to withhold sex unless he steps up…” um.. Women are not your parents. Also this is viewing the data from the perspective of the unmatched men, what about the factors of the lowest unmatched women? Feels like a very one sided lens
The lowest unmatched women are obsessed with man way above their leagues. They can easily date average men, but they would rather be alone
You really need to stop gaslighting men and be honest about the fact that women are way more shallow and unforgiving on looks than men. I'm not saying women need to change their shallowness. Just saying be honest about it
What your saying is like comparing depressed celebrities and rich people to poor people who are depressed, then complaining he is biased because he isn't looking at the perspective of depressed celebrities. Celebrities are such an insignificant part of the population, just like 'unmatched' women are. Did you not listen to his talk? Take a room of 50 women and 50 men. Online dating data shows that all 50 women will be only trying to get the attention of 4 of the men, rejecting the other 46.
Meaning if your unmatched and a woman, its totally within your power to match with someone, wheras guys do not have that choice. Its like complaining your thirsty but not reaching for a glass of water because its not your favorite flavoured kind.
@@jasonm7684 I dont think women have the ability to understand what you've explained
This is why many men are getting their passports and moving to poorer countries where all of a sudden they are considered upper class.
That's the ticket! Literally.
Before the Internet was invented, people had to meet in person. And everything worked out fine. Geez
Facts
I don't know about fine. Men had dates because women had to date them for survival but there was plenty of inferdelity mostly from men and alcoholism.
False. Meeting offline will change nothing. Men end up online BECAUSE meeting women offline didn’t work. Not the other way around
before the internet was invented people just married the first person they met of the opposite gender
The patriarchy should’ve been mentioned here. The pressure that patriarchy has convinced men, what it means to be one, and desirable at that, really messed men up amongst friendships and relationships.
What tf are you on about vvoman??!
We need our men to evolve with us. This isn’t about economics as the speaker was suggesting, it’s about raising men to have greater emotional intelligence - this will improve their prospects with women.
8:03 love how he was dead ass and didn’t join in on the laughter
Scott, I know you say it isn't a problem to express interest - the problem is that there are some women who will find you so unattractive they will make you feel as if you've inconvenienced them by talking to them. Modern women believe they are exactly who they express themselves to be on their Instagrams. Rejection is standard in human life; being made to feel like you aren't human will crush you, however
Galloway holds women accountable to nothing he is a gynocentric male bashing feminist
@@Tdzle bullshit man, I've seen what some girls say to my friends.
It's fucking inhuman.
@@Tdzle A comment like this is a perfect example why men struggle. Men are supposed to (a) just accept bad things without any complaints, (b) accept that their emotions are invalid and irrelevant, and (c) there is no learning for both women and men.
@@MrClebophdbravo. Preach brother.
@@MrClebophd yes, yes and no... "What stands in the way, becomes the way..."
attractive women maximize almost every parameter they can, to be attractive...
The lesson is: Are you maximizing every parameter for being attractive to women? Are you working out 5-6 times a week? Are you maximizing your economic strategy, with extra hours, extra jobs, starting a side hustle, saving up to launch your company? Do you have an investment plan for your surplus money?
Do you have a financial retirement plan? Can you afford a family?
Are you a boy with a toy or a man with a plan?
Women have a biological clock, men have a financial clock.. So get to work son... Who's gonna carry the boats?
ive been watching Gary's Economics recently and got a better understanding of just how rich the rich are and how much more they have become recently AND how this could be addressed via a tax on wealth and assetts instead of just income .. in any case this distribution of wealth must also be considered when considering relationships because this wealth, which the rich increasingly have, comes from society and its young men as much as anyone who are feeling its absence and the burden of this inequality of resource
Thank you for sharing Shaun 🙌🏽
Daygame is great for mental health ,exercise ,improve style ,expect rejection and keep going, get off dating apps
How that can improve your mental health ?
It’s economic. We’re at a weird point where people like me have money but feel like we can’t control anything. It’s almost like we need a good recession
In my experience if you want to get laid, just 1) be in good shape and 2) turn up. You’ll get get matches, attention with 1, and 2 will always give you opportunities with work nights out, events, etc. you don’t need to be earning shed loads to get laid. Luckily, everyone has the ability to get in shape, it’s in your control and not due to external factors. Granted, understand what good shape is for your body type (ecto, meso, endomorph) and embrace that
Ofc there are other ways too, but I found the above worked really well and is something 99% can achieve
And like the guy said, don’t be an asshole. Be kind (just don’t simp)
This only works if you’re in the top 10% of men looks-wise. It absolutely does not work for average looking men. You need to get back to the drawing board
@@Ferien7 It can work, if the women you chase aren't anything special. A lot of average/plain-looking women like sex because it gives them validation that they are reasonably attractive to some. So they will have sex with average-looking guys like me, if I make the effort.
economically viable? Guy with six pack here 6ft and 140k a year income. Majority obese women / women with children will only match. Europe/Asia I have had models go on dates and pay for me! Here in the US I have obese unemployed women verbally telling me they "can do so much better"
Triple 6 men are out dated.. you need triple 7’s to be a winner in the US now days.. it’s a stupid game my man I feel ya, hope you find what you’re lookin for, you deserve it. We all do.
How would you know they're matching with you unless you are matching with them as well 🤣 and are you putting your income and shirtless body in your bio?
Also them matching with you doesn't prove some made up point that guys like you are all they ever go for.
Around 3 mins he mentions the three things women look for in men....but leaves out looks.
Why are we lying to ourselves? Women absolutely care about looks, even more then men.
In fact it is 100% about looks. But the system has to keep lying to keep the monkey dancing
@@Ferien7 There's multiple factors; facial attractiveness, height, money, status/clout, environment (high school college/university, workplace, etc), and many others. Face is always number 1 though.
I'm raising two boys and I'm going to keep them away from porn. I get that they'll get to an age where they want to experiment in private but I don't want them to think porn is representation of real sex. I encourage them develop values, personality, character, and sense of humour and self worth. Quality over quantity or I tell them if many girls reject them that's OK because you're looking for only few quality of women to choose from.
Bill Maher also argued the same thing about shooters.
Honestly, I asked girls out from time to time in person, and I have no more success with that. In fact, I would say it’s harder in person because women have become so picky and over saturated with choices that they all feel like they’re better than me.
I met my fiancé off a dating app, and yet I still don’t recommend dating apps because of all the damage they are doing for men and women. I was also on/off apps for 6 years, and did have a few relationships from them-but none of them were good relationships except for this last one.
Lmao like none of what you described is possible when meeting people offline? How dumb are you?
What damage? Too many excuses or scare tactics these days
I am 33, only 5'7, don't make great money, and I have a great Wife. Been together for 11 years. I have always had a girl in my life. Not that difficult.
At 5'7" in today's dating market, you'd struggle, unless you're in the top 10% in looks.
@@travis3430 Must be in the top 10%. Don't feel like I am, but could easily get a girlfriend. I truly believe it is my personality.
@@travis3430disagree
your girl is def having affairs bro
@@travis3430 or maybe dude isn't a little bitch and has a personality so he's not afraid of socializing unlike a lot of men are these days
They need to ban dating apps
Whilst I can't fault these solutions. My main gripe here is this: Once again it is men who are being told "hey you need to shape up" which as a core message I'm fine with, we can all better ourselves. But nobody seems to be saying to women, "you are delusional, you have been granted equality which is great, but you now need to temper your expectations." Mathematically it is IMPOSSIBLE for women to date horizontally and up to the degree they are willing to accept whilst at the same time having equality of opportunity. To that end, no matter how much a man upskills himself, he is still more likely to miss than hit.
The other thing to point out is, the most successful man is still less successful than the least successful woman when it comes to matches on dating apps. Again, we need to point out to women that they are the ones who need to adjust expectations. It might be easy to say "men need to get it together" but as men are the ones overwhelmingly checking out of the dating market and are actively saying that women are too much hassle to deal with, it isn't men who will be disappointed. They are already disappointed, it is now women who now have everything to lose, and that bioclock is catching more of them out. 50% don't have children before 30, of that 50% over 30, only 50% of that number have children at all and once that ship sales they're done.
What are you taking about? Lots of men are constantly telling women they are delusional. They do it all the time on TH-cam and tick-tock . Dating apps aren't real life and women leave them as they get sent d*ck pics and these apps can be very dangerous. There is nothing wrong with women having standards and you men go on and on about being a provider and then whine when women want a man with a job and a car and hygiene. You moan when we have our own money and then moan when we marry a man with money. Which one is it ?
I don't know whether it's actually the norm for women to be with men who are on a "higher level" than them, but it's certainly not impossible. I would definitely say that my boyfriend and I are dating at a "horizontal" level. We have similar levels of education, similar incomes, and while we each tend to say that the other is the more attractive one, in reality I think we're about equal. And we met on a dating site (although I don't think that they work for most people, we got lucky).
I've met a ton of men and women who are also very similar in those aspects to their partner. I work in healthcare so I don't know whether being in this field influences it, but it is absolutely not impossible. Some of them met at work. People just have to be realistic about where they are and seek out a partner who's similar to themselves.
yes i totally agree ...
Go to the climbing gym. Get a mountain bike. Go slake lining.
These are communities of people who are open and interesting.
you connect to people and to the outdoors which in my eyes is real therapy! -the gym…
Women care about looks #1. Second wealth.
This is truly extraordinary. I read a book with a similar theme, and it was truly phenomenal. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint
And what ad did TH-cam chose to run before this video?
Bumble 😂 🤦♂️
Concerning the gender ratio: Tinder has the worst with 21.9% women and 78.1% men. While Badoo has 35% women and 65% men. Bumble seems to have the most balanced ratio out of the three at around 43% women and 57% men. You're male but not Chad? Don't waste your time.
You’re married and commenting this trying to convince other men to be an incel? Wtf is wrong with you? Instead of being bitter for whatever reason-get off the internet or encourage younger generations so people can actually experience some happiness. You sound ridiculous. Young men should work on their bodies, careers etc, make themselves as attractive as possible, joke around, be social, create a funny personality, and he will get a good girl. But you have to leave the house in order to do it-dating apps or social functions like young professional events in cities. It’s not rocket science and it’s hardly impossible.
I blame the women. Women online are just … no words
Indeed.
This is very interesting
Does he know how men behave on apps? I think that men should learn how to talk to women and not objectify them. Most men talk about sx way too quickly and they need to learn to just be themselves with women and not hide that part of themselves, because it’s a red flag when they can be way too flirty and suggestive in my experience. Like literally they talk about it and you don’t know anything about them... they also send pictures and videos that are inappropriate. They need to learn how to communicate and feel comfortable with women and not feeling so intimidated by them and thinking all they care about is the physicals. Women need to feel safe and trust a guy and show depth, dating these days is so horrible
What happens if you are the best version of yourself and you still cannot get with a woman - what should you do then? That’s the question to ask in this chat
Change your environment. Travel more, it's easier once you step out of your comfort zone. For example, if you're from London, it might be harder to get noticed while you're in London, but go up north to Manchester, and just the difference in accent alone is something to get you noticed. Go overseas to Spain and you struggling with your Spanish with your accent would get you noticed, this subtle differences or major differences are conversational starters.
Go to America, Asia etc. You're a man, we're hunters.
@@London2ATL thank you, appreciate the feedback
@ranney757 Good luck. Just keep working on yourself, friend.
Self improvement is a lie. It will make no difference. Either you’re top tier, or you’re not. There is no changing that one way or the other
@@London2ATLnonsense, none of the things you mentioned will make any difference. I know plenty of men doing all those things that still can’t get a date
I wonder when we will recover from apps, the family unit thing is out of style and someone makes alot of money of unhappy people.
Do not use dating apps. Just approach them in person.
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Do not approach in person without first receiving non verbal consent for such an approach. You want a harassment or a rape charge?
@@scottgurstein your terms are acceptable.
@scottgurstein rubbish you cannot get done for harassment for saying hi. If she ignores you then move on.
@@gold-hf8jx sorry, but you don't know what the f*** you're talking about. I do
None of the proposed solutions address the environment of online dating. Online dating feeds into the unrealistic fantasies of woman, our whole society does that as well.
Our entire society is drunk on the desire to possess something better, the grass is always greener.
One of the four noble truths of Buddhism is life is suffering, the suffering is the desire to have things we can not have. Western materialist consumer culture tells people they can have it all. In reality we can not have it all, no one can. The other Buddhist depiction of humans that always wanting more is that of the hungry ghost. We have become a culture of hungry ghost, our humanity is being brushed aside.
The problem with dating apps that even good looking guys with decent job will struggle as hell to find meaningful relationships.
That why I am still single btw 😅
Excellent
BITD, I thrived on rejection; it always ended up as a good story.
Am I the only one who thinks he looks like an old Ryan Reynolds?
I searched for this comment lol.
The US needs to legalize sex work like much of the developed world; then these low-status men will have an outlet, aside from the other benefits of more employment and tax revenue.
Exactly, but that’s common sense, and there’s not much common sense in the USA.
@EvolvedBonobo
It's legal here in Australia and I can assure you, it doesn't help the situation at all. If anything, it makes things even worse. It's also not unheard of for even escorts to reject unattractive men these days. It's that bad.
The problem is UNDENIABLE.
The guys in the lower bracket should go to the likes of Brazil, Thailand, Vietnam and Manila, there they will be in demand and have lots and lots of choices. Men get to choose in these types of places.
The guys in the lower bracket generally can't afford to travel because they're either not working or only working part-time. Women in Brazil, Thailand, Vietnam, and Manila don't want broke dudes either.
This is some Top G content
I don't mean to be invalidating to young men. This is a very important message and video.
This is even more true for women though. God forbid you don't have a four pack of abs while being feminine and into sports and and and and... But can we also normalize being attracted to not perfect looking people, in _both_ genders? Some men don't date women they like because of how other men will perceive them for "lowering their standards" if the person is overweight or not attractive.
The answer is really simple although I don't think men have it within them to do it.
All it takes is for men for 1 year not to engage with women. Don't be in social places they will be at, if they come in the room then leave. Focus on goals and accomplish them. The whole thing will get a major reset. Defoo dont pay for apps.
That sounds awful. Don't you want to have women as friends too? That's part of the problem. No-one's really benefitting from this shitty dating situation and 'punishing' women by disengaging from them isn't going to help anyone.
Not a hard solve, guys. Be happy being alone, (self improvement will not help you to get women in the west), OR get your passport and leave permanently. Not sure why people are complicating this.
Wait til you find out women in other countries expect more of you
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@@bonitaapplebum0088 child please
I got an ad for bumble when I clicked on this video 😂
12 months?. I'm 33 and yet to get it on haha
I hear him, about getting in shape and going out but as a man if we see the top percentage of men still having issues, getting divorced, cheated on, finding out those aren’t his kids when it’s too late. And women still somehow are able to be the victim after all of that. Where is the hope for any man? I’m confused. At the end of the day ppl know the truth, finding your person is finding a needle in a haystack. The men and women who built the world were far from perfect. These people are trying to explain a horrible cycle that was started by ppl who aren’t even here anymore
what qualifies a man to be in the top percentages is not in line with all the things women look for in men, its a male created metric.
Scott Galloway has got attraction completely WRONG, women are NOT attracted to your personality, kindness etc.
VVomen go by LOOKS first, if you don’t pass the LOOKS test with a vvoman its GAME over.
On line attractiveness is exactly the same as real life in person attractiveness, it’s your LOOKS.
"Women who have a much finer filter for mating because the downside of sex for them is if they get pregnant" does not capture the true risk of a bad choice in partners. There are far greater risks than that of getting pregnant because the risk of getting pregnant has been reduced if not eliminated entirely.
Disagree . Nothing can possibly be a greater risk than accidentally creating unwanted life .
No. It hasn't. For men they have to trust thst the woman they are with are on birth control.
I think he also said that because with that particular variable there's a higher risk multiplier attached to it than some of the others you may be thinking of.
He mean Women think like that because of historic or biologic genes..
I agree with you, safe Sex is comon and no one want to get diseases from it..
But a unwanted child is horrible for All 3 people involved.
@@onelmstreet8839 as if any woman now id going to have an unwanted child!! More poor misandry - even employers will pay for abortions in another state
None of this can change. It's simply who we are now, baked into our psychology. The end result of decades obsessed with greed and narcissism.
Read: Esther Vilar; the Manipulated men, then you get rid of women, Relationship and everything about love..😅💯
Relationship is a fools game.
Its not all about sex. Like the interviewer asked "how can we get more men to have sex". Maybe this is the only goal for many young viewers here that don't have a bigger mindset. But sex is not a human right to get. Otherwise the government would subside prostitutes.
Sex is important yes. But what we should take from Scott is men is slipping in the social market. And the ramifications. Men get more depressed, they loose their value and its a very skewed but also unfair market. Its about building self esteem. Build up your worth (no its not only financial). Build meaningful relationships (all kinds) where you open up and CONNECT. Do what makes you feel good and dont choose things that you think or believe other people expect of you. The only person obliged to take care of you is YOU.
Cant get sex? Focus on finding other things that give you value and positive things in your life. Dont spend time with people who are bringing you down. Its not your job to make them mature, its their own job in life.
I agree on everything except what females look for when assessing a male. He said: income, intelligence and kindness. I chuckled when I heard the last two, they couldn't be more wrong. Income (status), looks and looks again.
Don’t forget sociopathy, or as my criminal defense colleagues say, “The longer the rap sheet, the hotter the girlfriend”
Where is the motivation to talk to someone? I like my money, I don't to have to worry about a female taking half of my wealth, I don't want to worry about being divorced (90% of the time it is initiated by women), I don't want to feel the guilt of not performing well enough in life, I don't want to deal with more drama, I don't want to be tricked in to being a daddy, I respect my physical and mental health and don't like drama, I don't want to worry about being cheated on, I don't want to fear rejection. Where is the balance? One thing I learned in being in two long term relationships for the past 18 years is that I like my independence.
Cool Channel 😎
Don’t approach women at work, gym or anywhere you want/need to frequent regularly. Only basic greetings and work related conversations with women at work.
Work yes but at gym is very easy to make conversation with women
Id love to see someone from the lgbtq+ community talk about their research on dating apps. This interview is really interesting and makes some good points, however I think it could be more inclusive to same-sex/queer relationships
Dumb comment and completely off topic. Or the video content went right over your head
I transitioned in 1978. Started dating online in 1992. My experience has been extraordinary really. Met my current husband on a app in 2013. Met in person 2017. Married 2018. He is 34, and I'm 63. Meeting people on apps gave me vast choices I didn't have at first. You might say spoiled for choice
Why?
Nothing but creeps on the apps. Too many guys into "choking", asking about it on the second date or trying things without asking first. Violent pron is making young men unviable.
Jeremy Meeks agree with you Mr.Scott money , intelligence and kindness