Serious damage !!! Seen first hand the damage of the 3 blade,and the hole is simply ridiculous. Durability might be the best I've seen you test. A "blunted tip" to the broadhead is to be expected,,,,and it barely was blunted ! Love to see what these heads do on bigger boar hogs.
I appreciate small family owned companies. It’s a shame such great broadhead manufacturers don’t get the spotlight that they deserve. Seems like outdoor channels pick and choose what manufacturers make it. Props to you John Lusk for promoting these companies. Question John? Do thicker blades not keep an edge the same as a thinner one?
Thanks Joe. I really do like testing as many heads as I can--whether from big companies or small. Thicker blades can keep their edge very well...like this one did. But there are a lot of variables to it. The quality of steel, hardness, and bevel angle affect it the most.
Awesome video as always 👍 I can’t wait for the extra videos, I watch every one and I always use your videos as a reference / performance review before I consider putting anything in my quiver.
There's a lot to like here. It's so durable, has a great cutting diameter, and a little rotation from the single bevel. It's going to create a tremendous wound cavity in any animal shot with it. However, I would put a steeper angle on the blade to get a little more rotation. The 3-blade design they have is a little more attractive to me. If I'm going that big and heavy, I prefer 3 blades. That being said this 2-blade head, is going to be a great broadhead for hunting most anything that walks, crawls or slithers.
Thanks Frank. I believe it's the chisel tip that hinders the rotation--but it provides other strengths. The bevel is already 38 degrees, which is steeper than most.
Thanks John.. super cool head!! You should have them reach out to The Public Hunting and The Ranch Fairy. Let those guys shoot some (Hogs) animals with them!!! They will get lots of free advertising. Can't wait for the 2 blade in action.
Crazy head. One note that wasn’t mentioned-the average archer with the average bow and average arrows will need to change arrow spine to tune with these heads. I’m imagining a guy currently hunting with a 60 lbs bow 28 inch draw with 350-400 spine arrows needing a 250-300 spine or stiffer.
Thanks for the comment. In theory, I agree...however, I've found they fly extremely well with my normal set up, using a 125 gr head. I was pleasantly surprised.
John, love your videos....one of, if not the best to do it! Have you considered adding in a decibel in-flight reading to your tests? I recently purchased what I thought would be my new heads (will leave them unnamed) and they ended up having one hell of a whistle to them in flight.
Thank you. I've definitely considered it. But it's difficult to do. Outside, there is such inconsistent ambient noise. And inside there's not enough room for me to do it effectively. And honestly, I'm not concerned at all about arrow flight noise. I know many people are...but I've never seen it be an issue in hunting.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Same concept as sending them into a cinder block, not a deal-breaker but if I'm on the fence between two...I'm going with the quieter head!
Well, actually, they barely break even; it's more of a passion than a money maker. It's a one man company, and he does it all out of his basement. It's just the super high quality materials, all US manufactured, super high tolerances, and relatively low quantities that make the prices that high. And they keep selling out, cause to some people, those prices aren't very high :) Definitely a niche market.
I didn't notice much noise, but I really don't care about arrow flight noise in the first place. I've never seen it to be an issue in a hunting situation, cause animals can't pinpoint the origin. It could be a bug or bird whirling by, for all they know.
I have seen 2 new broadheads on the market for 2022 that Look interesting. The Stryke Vapor Rear Deploying 2 Blade Broadhead, 100-Grain and the Clovis broadhead by triplepoint outdoors. It would be interesting to see how they hold up in your test.
Great Video's ....! I mostly Hunt in western Kansas .... the Deer bodies are MASIVE and are verry Fat which have a tendency to close broad head holes up quick ..... I hunt with a cross bow and mostly from the ground [ not many trees in western Kansas .... Currently I have been using Mechanical's .... not to happy with the blood trails ... what do you recommend ..? thanks Mark
Yeah, these could be a good choice. I don’t know enough about crossbow bolts to know what weight heads are most effective. I do know the Sevr Robusto is also an excellent choice for crossbows. But these are sure going to make a big hole!
Thank you for the suggestion. I’ve considered that quite a bit. However, I don’t have a controlled way to do it effectively. There’s too much varying ambient noise outside to compare heads on different days at different times. And I don’t have enough distance indoors to do it effectively at those ranges. If I tested them all at the same time outside it could work, or if I had a sound chamber 40 yds long. But otherwise, the results wouldn’t be accurate enough for comparison. I may be able to in the future, but can’t now. And honestly, on top of all that, I really don’t care at all about arrow flight noise. I’ve taken hundreds of animals and never seen it be an issue at any distance. Bow noise is huge cause the animal can pinpoint its origin. But a moving object is different. For all that animal knows, it could be a bird or bug zipping by. I think flight noise is overrated.
Impressive head. What assumptions might you make on the kind of poundage you need to push a broad head of that size through an animal? That would be my only concern. I have seen good arrow setups from 60-70 pounds stop dead on deer hit well (no shoulder and hard quartering shots) with mechanical heads with similar cut widths. I would love to shoot a fixed head that wide but I have concerns about that as I shoot lower poundage.
Yeah, that is an issue...as is correct spine of the arrow and the pin gap at distance. However, the extra weight really helps with penetration at the same time, even with a lower poundage set up.
Ranch fairy and the rocket man were just talking about three blades being easier to tune and more stable in flight opposed to a two blades, I would assume that would be more relevant with higher speeds
I would be very careful with a high speed crossbow. The new r500 ravin is putting out so much energy with a 100 grain head that it’s exploding nocks at the shoot. It would only be worse with more weight to push on the front of a bolt.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I usually use a 500+ gr arrow with a cut on contact single bevel head. I really wish redfeather still made the Phoenix. It was an awesome head! Doesn't really matter this year as I drew a rifle bull tag and I also drew a really cool deer tag. There were only 5 tags available and I was blessed enough to draw one. My wife my son and his wife also drew the bull elk tag that I drew. It is going to be a fun year but I will miss archery season.
Hey John what single bevel head would you recommend for me? I am shooting a Mathews V3x 29 I have a 27.5 draw length shooting 27in arrows that weigh about 450-470 (depending if it’s elk or deer season) my poundage is at 70lbs what’s your recommendation ?
Hey Joaquin. There are lots of good choices. This head would be great...but adds a lot of weight to your set up. If that's what you want, then it would be a great choice. If you want a more normal weighted SB head, then there are lots of excellent choices: Iron Will, Kayuga Gen 2 Pilot Cut, VPA, A2, Alien V2, Tuffhead, Bishop Scientific Method...to name several. You can search for each of those on my channel and see the tests of them.
I would help sponsor the $15--$20 3 pack set of Allen heads that are like the classic 100 grain three blade Muzzy but made cheaper. I have identical kockoffs from China the factory decided to make that only lack the QC of sharpness from the package but that was easy to fix on a few heads. I want to see how poor the heads I got are for hunting, I know they are poorer heads but better then most other Chinese heads since the blades are removable, I have spare heads mainly for the blades in an ugly color I would not use hunting but what I really want to know is how poor the broadheads really are.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I forgot about the post and I found the 100 grain 3 pack on Amazon from Allen so they will come to you soon as a super budget, probably more like a teens or university budget head. I bet they make though the MDF on 3 shots but not the Steel plate but can still see the cut pattern in the steel. The heads do not have replaceable blades despite being a removable blade so no need to look that up, I guess they want you to use old blades from heads that fell apart. Price if you do not get that included was $13.95 without tax.
John Lusk is one of the most informative good guys doing excellent work in the archery industry.
Thanks for what you do brother!
100% gentleman, a blessing for us archers without a doubt !
Thank you Scott.
@@michaelrosa5410 Thanks brother.
I have the same blades on my Zero Turn Mower! Works great!😂
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Haha. Thanks for the comment.
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Lmao good one
Serious damage !!! Seen first hand the damage of the 3 blade,and the hole is simply ridiculous. Durability might be the best I've seen you test. A "blunted tip" to the broadhead is to be expected,,,,and it barely was blunted ! Love to see what these heads do on bigger boar hogs.
Right? Well said. Thanks Mike.
I have been waiting for this broadhead to come up. Thanks for your work.
Thank you!
I appreciate small family owned companies. It’s a shame such great broadhead manufacturers don’t get the spotlight that they deserve. Seems like outdoor channels pick and choose what manufacturers make it. Props to you John Lusk for promoting these companies. Question John? Do thicker blades not keep an edge the same as a thinner one?
Thanks Joe. I really do like testing as many heads as I can--whether from big companies or small. Thicker blades can keep their edge very well...like this one did. But there are a lot of variables to it. The quality of steel, hardness, and bevel angle affect it the most.
Another great video, these broadheads are crazy looking because they are so big but they seem to perform, thanks for everything you do
You're welcome! Thanks for the encouragement.
One of the best looking broadheads ever. Excellent test, will be the second broadhead I invest... heavily in.
As a result of John Lusk.
Good to hear. Feel free to use my Discount Code as well. It wasn't up and running on the first day, but is now. LUSKFIVE.
I'm absolutely impressed with this head.
Me too. Thanks Timothy.
Awesome video as always 👍 I can’t wait for the extra videos, I watch every one and I always use your videos as a reference / performance review before I consider putting anything in my quiver.
Thank you Jeffrey.
Looks like a winner for sure.
Yep. Thanks Carl.
There's a lot to like here. It's so durable, has a great cutting diameter, and a little rotation from the single bevel. It's going to create a tremendous wound cavity in any animal shot with it. However, I would put a steeper angle on the blade to get a little more rotation. The 3-blade design they have is a little more attractive to me. If I'm going that big and heavy, I prefer 3 blades. That being said this 2-blade head, is going to be a great broadhead for hunting most anything that walks, crawls or slithers.
Thanks Frank. I believe it's the chisel tip that hinders the rotation--but it provides other strengths. The bevel is already 38 degrees, which is steeper than most.
Absolutely awesome broadhead!
Yep
Dang that guy is thick! I love when people are not afraid to go big.
Haha. Right?
What a beast of a head!!!
Right?
Nice review from BIG BROADHEAD..🐗🐗
Yep. Thanks.
Thanks John.. super cool head!! You should have them reach out to The Public Hunting and The Ranch Fairy. Let those guys shoot some (Hogs) animals with them!!! They will get lots of free advertising. Can't wait for the 2 blade in action.
John himself has killed hogs with them. I seen the damage,outrageous holes.
Yeah, I've shot a turkey and a couple hogs with the Big Game 3--you can see those vids here on my channel as well.
Man, they just look gigantic, but the tests don’t lie. Where are they out of in Missouri?
They're from Pleasant Hope, MO.
@@dsmchristianchurch - not too far from me!
Yeah, I commented under my church channel--Western MO--Pleasant Hope.
Have to check this one out for sure
It's really impressive.
Crazy head. One note that wasn’t mentioned-the average archer with the average bow and average arrows will need to change arrow spine to tune with these heads. I’m imagining a guy currently hunting with a 60 lbs bow 28 inch draw with 350-400 spine arrows needing a 250-300 spine or stiffer.
Thanks for the comment. In theory, I agree...however, I've found they fly extremely well with my normal set up, using a 125 gr head. I was pleasantly surprised.
One mean head as evidenced by the cuts on that pig. Did you get a pass thru on the hogs? 👍👍
Yep...zipped thru 3 of them. But the hogs weren't very big to begin with.
John, love your videos....one of, if not the best to do it! Have you considered adding in a decibel in-flight reading to your tests? I recently purchased what I thought would be my new heads (will leave them unnamed) and they ended up having one hell of a whistle to them in flight.
Thank you. I've definitely considered it. But it's difficult to do. Outside, there is such inconsistent ambient noise. And inside there's not enough room for me to do it effectively. And honestly, I'm not concerned at all about arrow flight noise. I know many people are...but I've never seen it be an issue in hunting.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Same concept as sending them into a cinder block, not a deal-breaker but if I'm on the fence between two...I'm going with the quieter head!
John, any chance you can review the Wasp Sharpshooter 150 or 200?
I'd be happy to, if someone sends me a pack. I've just completed a test of the Wasp Drone and will be posting it in the day ahead.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I sent you a message on FB.
If you get a chance, try out the cobra expandable. Would be a sweet head to head test with others.
I've just finished testing it. I'll be editing the footage soon. It did some things well...and others not so well.
Just got a pack. Cannot wait to zip one through an elk. 75lb VXR and 600 grains should pair nicely.
Nice!
Them guys at Bishop archery are smoking crack on their prices
But out of diamond pipes! Never shot their arrows, probably never will. Couldn't imagine breaking or losing one of those !
Well, actually, they barely break even; it's more of a passion than a money maker. It's a one man company, and he does it all out of his basement. It's just the super high quality materials, all US manufactured, super high tolerances, and relatively low quantities that make the prices that high. And they keep selling out, cause to some people, those prices aren't very high :) Definitely a niche market.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures wow that's interesting, to me those prices are astounding, but I suppose to some people it's worth it
Excellent review as always John! Curious if this head is as noisy as the big game 3? I got the 3 blade and it’s a beast, but is loud!
Scotch tape👍
I didn't notice much noise, but I really don't care about arrow flight noise in the first place. I've never seen it to be an issue in a hunting situation, cause animals can't pinpoint the origin. It could be a bug or bird whirling by, for all they know.
Thanks
I have seen 2 new broadheads on the market for 2022 that Look interesting. The Stryke Vapor Rear Deploying 2 Blade Broadhead, 100-Grain and the Clovis broadhead by triplepoint outdoors. It would be interesting to see how they hold up in your test.
Yeah, I’d love to test those. Triple Point is sending me some Clovis as soon as they’re ready. I’ll look into the other one.
Great Video's ....! I mostly Hunt in western Kansas .... the Deer bodies are MASIVE and are verry Fat which have a tendency to close broad head holes up quick ..... I hunt with a cross bow and mostly from the ground [ not many trees in western Kansas .... Currently I have been using Mechanical's .... not to happy with the blood trails ... what do you recommend ..? thanks Mark
Yeah, these could be a good choice. I don’t know enough about crossbow bolts to know what weight heads are most effective. I do know the Sevr Robusto is also an excellent choice for crossbows. But these are sure going to make a big hole!
Can you add one more test please. Sound test. Like a microphone in different location 20 - 40 yards. Thank you for great content
Thank you for the suggestion. I’ve considered that quite a bit. However, I don’t have a controlled way to do it effectively. There’s too much varying ambient noise outside to compare heads on different days at different times. And I don’t have enough distance indoors to do it effectively at those ranges. If I tested them all at the same time outside it could work, or if I had a sound chamber 40 yds long. But otherwise, the results wouldn’t be accurate enough for comparison. I may be able to in the future, but can’t now. And honestly, on top of all that, I really don’t care at all about arrow flight noise. I’ve taken hundreds of animals and never seen it be an issue at any distance. Bow noise is huge cause the animal can pinpoint its origin. But a moving object is different. For all that animal knows, it could be a bird or bug zipping by. I think flight noise is overrated.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures wow. Mind blown. Thanks for info on taken arrow noise anxiety out of my head. Also thanks for the reply.
Good job
Thank you!
Impressive head. What assumptions might you make on the kind of poundage you need to push a broad head of that size through an animal? That would be my only concern. I have seen good arrow setups from 60-70 pounds stop dead on deer hit well (no shoulder and hard quartering shots) with mechanical heads with similar cut widths. I would love to shoot a fixed head that wide but I have concerns about that as I shoot lower poundage.
Yeah, that is an issue...as is correct spine of the arrow and the pin gap at distance. However, the extra weight really helps with penetration at the same time, even with a lower poundage set up.
Which one would you recommend big2 or big3 for high speed crossbow?
I can't imagine getting that big of a head to shoot well out of a high speed xbow
Ranch fairy and the rocket man were just talking about three blades being easier to tune and more stable in flight opposed to a two blades, I would assume that would be more relevant with higher speeds
@@jeffreyfred4817 …. hi Jeff, I’m going to follow the recommendation with Ranch Fairy Thanks
I would be very careful with a high speed crossbow. The new r500 ravin is putting out so much energy with a 100 grain head that it’s exploding nocks at the shoot. It would only be worse with more weight to push on the front of a bolt.
I've not done enough testing with crossbows to have an informed answer to that. Sorry. They both flew extremely well out of my vertical bow.
Can you do the ram cat diamondback hybrid please
Thanks Jake. If someone sends me a pack, I'll gladly test them out. I've depleted my broadhead budget :)
@@LuskArcheryAdventures how does one get ahold of you to send something.
Wow... That's all I can say.
:)
In your opinion what is the optimal arrow and head weight for elk hunting say out to 60 yards?
Elkshape can help:
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Man, so many dynamics there...but I'd say at least 400 grs. Maybe 400-550 depending on the draw length and poundage and desired pin gap.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures
I usually use a 500+ gr arrow with a cut on contact single bevel head. I really wish redfeather still made the Phoenix. It was an awesome head!
Doesn't really matter this year as I drew a rifle bull tag and I also drew a really cool deer tag. There were only 5 tags available and I was blessed enough to draw one. My wife my son and his wife also drew the bull elk tag that I drew. It is going to be a fun year but I will miss archery season.
Hey John what single bevel head would you recommend for me? I am shooting a Mathews V3x 29 I have a 27.5 draw length shooting 27in arrows that weigh about 450-470 (depending if it’s elk or deer season) my poundage is at 70lbs what’s your recommendation ?
Hey Joaquin. There are lots of good choices. This head would be great...but adds a lot of weight to your set up. If that's what you want, then it would be a great choice. If you want a more normal weighted SB head, then there are lots of excellent choices: Iron Will, Kayuga Gen 2 Pilot Cut, VPA, A2, Alien V2, Tuffhead, Bishop Scientific Method...to name several. You can search for each of those on my channel and see the tests of them.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures would kudu heads be a good option ?
It looked like it completely wrecked that fad eliminator arrow on the concrete test..
Yeah, that arrow had been shot so many times into the concrete...and that total arrow weight was over 800 grains out of a 72# bow at 6 yards.
I would help sponsor the $15--$20 3 pack set of Allen heads that are like the classic 100 grain three blade Muzzy but made cheaper. I have identical kockoffs from China the factory decided to make that only lack the QC of sharpness from the package but that was easy to fix on a few heads. I want to see how poor the heads I got are for hunting, I know they are poorer heads but better then most other Chinese heads since the blades are removable, I have spare heads mainly for the blades in an ugly color I would not use hunting but what I really want to know is how poor the broadheads really are.
Thanks Casey. If you'd like to send me a pack to test, then pls do so :) My address is 6159 Nottingham Dr, Johnston, Iowa, 50131
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I forgot about the post and I found the 100 grain 3 pack on Amazon from Allen so they will come to you soon as a super budget, probably more like a teens or university budget head. I bet they make though the MDF on 3 shots but not the Steel plate but can still see the cut pattern in the steel. The heads do not have replaceable blades despite being a removable blade so no need to look that up, I guess they want you to use old blades from heads that fell apart. Price if you do not get that included was $13.95 without tax.
Just go ahead and send me all of the videos you’ve already completed 😎. TIA
Haha. I've got about 20 more already completed & scheduled to post.