Hi Ben, great vids, what is your work flow with this Qoocam that is different to your Theta workflow? Import into Lightroom etc or just photoshop, or not at all and having to workaround..?
@@BenClaremont Really struggling with the battery life on both cameras! Thoughts on how to shoot tours back to back, video content etc when you don't have time to charge it up? I guess the Quoocam you can charge it WHILE shooting? So I need to strap a charging pack to the monopod? Isn't that in the shot now? BTW I purchased your training course.
I'm looking at this cam for Trail running and Mountain biking video. This or the Insta 360 One X2. Inclined to go the Qoocam, as the better resolution and looks better for low light... What would you recommended Mr Claremont?
Workflow info would be great. PC and/or mac? How much post processing is needed? Was it just me or were you blurry when you took the shot of you laying on your back?
Great video! Is the Qoocam worth it in May 2020? I am looking to shoot some photos and mostly videos of hikes and travels. How is the HDR and colors compared to Theta Z1?
Ben, are shooting with 360 cameras like QuooCam 8k for virtual tours considered as professional or is DSLR/Mirrorless a better option? I'm an architecture and travel photographer and new to 360 (Still not a lot of people are into it in India)
Hi Ben, what do you think the best 360 camera is currently for still 360 photos? i have a fusion, its ok but gets a little poor on quality for objects in distance i found. is there anything new coming out worth waiting for? Im in the UK, a lot of these cameras look great when demos done in sunny California but in UK weather im not so sure. I want as crisp as possibke 360 photos, just not sure what 360 camera is best in 2022, advice much appreciated mate.
Hey, After testing the Qoocam a bit deeper now. How would you rate it against the Theta Z1? Especially for shooting virtual tours.....and all the other use cases ;) ? Thanks and regards
Thank you, Ben - love your stuff! Is the software now updated and has the camera now become better than the Z1 as you predicted in an earlier video? And: do you think Matterport will open for the Qoocam 8Kuse in the future? (is it good enough? ) Geir from Norway :-)
Yeah it’s definitely improved and it’s good enough to use without frustration. Not perfect but ready enough. And yeah hopefully Matterport will open their borders to all 360 cams soon 👍
I am a real estate photographer. I am 76 so change does not come easy. I have to get into the 360 market and having frustration with all the info which camera is best for still. Leaning toward the Qoo cam 8k and secondary Zeta Z. Any suggestions?
Hi Ben! Thank you for your review. I'm very interested in this camera but in the QooCam's site I can't see some detailed technical specification: can you help me?
Hi Ben. A question from Peru in the middle of the quarantine. I have to select a 360 camera to buy right now, and there a few options available. Theta S, Theta V, Theta M15, Theta SC and Insta 360 X. Which one do you recommend? I'm going to use it for real estate, with Kuula or Theasy. Regards from Peru.
As always: Great photos/videos. Meanwhile I got my Qoocam 360 8k. But damn! How do you stitch/edit photos/videos on a Mac? The camera is supposed to do internal stitching. Is there a setup for that? After my positive experiences with Insta360 One X I wonder if I made a mistake buying the QooCam. Hope that I just missed something, so I can start editing without having to bother stitching. I'm sure you can help! - But, Ben, above all: STAY HEALTHY!!!
Hey Walter! I'm thinking of doing entry-level Real Estate 3D tours in my area and it's between the Qoocam and One X. Having both, what's your advice given your experience? Thanks in advance!
@@BenClaremont Which Mac desktop software are you referring to? Are you using QooCam Studio 1.0? QooCam Studio 1.0 says it's only for QooCam -- not QooCam 8K. QooCam Studio 2.0, which says it's designed for QooCam 8K, is only available for Windows -- not Macs. ... Would it work for me to use QooCam Studio 1.0?
How is the Qoocam 8K for video? I've gone from the Insta360 Nano, One, and One X (5.6K) and have yet to see an 8K camera from Insta360 so am looking if the Qoocam will satisfy my craving for 8K video.
Extremely good footage on this camera. I am considering a purchase very soon to replace and upgrade my Ricoh Theta V which is poor for video. what is your experience with the workflow
Should be wonderful to go back one year later to see how qcam did with the latest software updates and what's your opinion I'm in a limbo land now because of the sea one or two can I hear is getting much better please give me an update quickly
I would really like to see your workflow with QooCam Studio. It's been really buggy on Macbook Pro and I can't seem to get images even stitched. I'll keep at it but that would be awesome. Great video Ben, thanks!
Thanks! I’ve been playing with the dng8 vs single shot and I’m not really sure it is worth the extra workflow steps. I’ve got a solid Mac and it really takes quite a while. Thoughts?
Ben Claremont Cool. Maybe I need to bracket 3-5 of the dng8’s as I’ve really not been impressed with the amount of noise in the shadows. Hopefully they’ll add bracketing. Also a histogram as trying to set exposure just by the screen is not the best.
Everytime I try to update the firmware. The app on my phone crashes around 90%. And Qoocam Studio won't load. Crashes like 3 secs after opening. Really getting annoyed. Any suggestion? Reached out to customer support but no answer in over 24 hours.
Hey Ben little off topic (best virtual tour software) was wondering if you ever got Pano2VR and if yes could you possibly do a DEMO / basic tutorial of it. I got it and even though there are tutorials out there , I can't find one that covers the basics very WELL.
Hi Ben, when you took the 24 shot bracketed HDR, does the Qoocam 8k save the individual images or automatically merge them together as a single file? Thanks!
@@BenClaremont Great! Any chance you could do a short video showing how to set up the brackets and exposures? That's something that is surprisingly hard to find, I want to see how it works before buying
Great video. I think this camera is a good compromise between price and quality. I generally shoot 360 spherical stills. Do you have a tutorial dedicated to the DNG 8 process you used in this process?
@@BenClaremont Thanks. I will look forward to it. I am tossing up between Insta360 One R and Qoocam 8K. But if your review shows that the Qoocam is better for stills, then that's what I'll do.
hi Ben, what would you recommend to me if i need a cam for Work and also for fun. Iam a real estate agent so it sould do the best possible job with indoor fotos. Like your materport shoot. Last test you say the insta r!?
I would like Ben's thoughts on this as well. Ben, if you were going to buy a camera today for Real Estate tours, which would you buy under $1000...thanks.
Yeah, the software sucks. My current workflow for DNG8 is to run it through Raw+ first to stack the DNG, then colour grade - output as TIFF, then to Kandao Studio for stitching. Send that equirectangular image to CaptureOne for noise reduction and sharpening and finally to my phone if I want to make it into a tiny planets or reframed image. Ugh. The jpegs out of the camera are still sharper than from the DNG8 stack, but are really poor in other respects. Some people have suggested using Mistika VR but honestly the thought of paying an exorbitant price just to fix Kandao's problems pisses me off. Tried with PTgui but it still doesn't work quite right. Keep the camera. The hardware is as good as they'll make it.
This company is beta testing this product with the clients. The version of Qoocam Studio they have online is legacy from 2019 , and the new one 1.5.1.5, was sent by cloud drive, and it does not support DNG either; "......Dear Santiago, 1. Currently, QooCam Studio doesn't accept DNG photos. Please get a single DNG in Raw+ (Raw+ can be found in: www.kandaovr.com/download/)and convert DNG to JPG in PS and stitch the converted JPG in QooCam Studio. Pls see detailed process in below page: www.kandaovr.com/faq/qoocam/ No.42: How can I process DNG image? 2. Currently we have 8K 30fps and 4K 120 fps. more options like 4K 30, 60fps will be available via future firmware...." I had to pay DHL to return this product back to HongKong.
Hi Ben, I'm a big fan of your videos and you have inspired me to dive into 360 virtual tours. However, I have a dilemma I'm currently dealing with and I need your help. I'm a stickler for perfection/ high quality, especially with photography because I am a professional photographer. If I'm going to become a professional virtual tour photographer I want to produce virtual tours with stunning clarity and resolution and this is where my dilemma is causing me pain. You see, I have a Canon 5d Mk II dslr and I don't know if I should use it for Virtual Tour creation or should I purchase a 360 camera such as the Qoocam 8K, a camera you highly recommend. I notice you don't mention anything about using professional dslr for 360 virtual tours which adds to my dilemma. Your answer to this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Hey- yeah you can shoot with a DSLR and a pano head, however it’s pretty advanced and complex. I’m all about simple workflow hence why I use 360 cameras. Qoocam isn’t that expensive, so would consider picking it up and testing for yourself, you can always learn the DSLR method later :)
Not sure I understand your explaining the 24 shot example. Why so many? Couldn't you get a similar quality with several shots at those bracketed EV's? Seems overkill at 24. Does Qoocam stitch multiple images in the software or do you have to always do it manually in PS? This maybe my next purchase. Thx!
So if I’m understanding it correctly the DNG8 is not HDR but stack images to make the JPEG clearer then you take three different exposures to create HDR image, right?
@@BenClaremont if 8 exposure have the exact same ISO, shutterspeed, aperture, then all 8 image are exactly the same, except for some movements. How does it enhance the noise?
@@BenClaremont I haven't had time to really test it yet. I'm having a lot of problems with the Qoocam 8K and it's not connecting. So I'm gonna return it, hopefully I can get my money back.
Do You see a huge difference watching your 8K footages here on youtube when using Oculus go and then choose youtube inside the oculus? I find the youtube 360VR 4k videos when using the Oculus go sadly incredibly horrible for ist apparent low resolution,.... when comparing just watching the very same 4k youtube clip on a 27 inch iMac without oculus... i am hoping your 8K videos here do show an improvement when using oculus go and seeing your 8K videos through youtube and oculus...
@benclaremont i go riding my utv on trails and recently decided to switch from a gopro set up to an insta360 one x set up. its great that the one x can capture multiple angles but what happens if i want to use two or three in a dedicated type set up. how can i control them all at one and how can we speed up the editing process?
Ben, I await delivery of my 360 degree camera. In the meantime are you able to provide all the high res files that make up a virtual tour? I'd be interested in files from the Qoocam 8K and Theta Z1.
Thanks for the video, it partially influenced me to buy this camera. But I'm still not clear on your workflow. I'm also shooting bracketed DNG8s but I don't know how to stitch them reliably. I can use the KanDao Raw+ to merge the DNG8 files and then I can do the HDR merge in LR or whatever. I'm stuck at the stitching step. KanDao Raw+ does not convert to other formats and KanDao Studio does not support KanDao raw files or tiffs/jpegs from other software. It's a bit of a catch 22. At the moment I'm using PTGui for stitching but it is not reliable.
Hi, I have an issue with the equirectangular outputs stitched in-camera and I wonder if anyone has encountered it too. They're all slightly different, like if they've been processed with different pitch, roll and yaw parameters. Dual fisheye originals look ok when processed with Qoocam Studio. Has anyone encountered the same problem?
Great content! Any videos you might have on the way you show these shots in the video - I mean the way of just looking around in them? As well as making them into a sphere? Keep up the good work!
Is dng8 only an option for stationary scenes and when used on a tripod? I would imagine that you get motion blur and ghost images when 8 shots are combined.
I got the qoocam 8k and the lens is decentered or simply not aligned with the sensor or something. I get huge softness in the dead center oddly. The edge of one lens is amazingly sharp. I notice the soft areas really want to focus extremely close up, like 12 inches, but if you have a horizon, its very soft. I hope I can get an exchange that just has the lenses aligned right because this thing does shoot details sharper than the One X I have, but only on one edge of one lens. If I get one where the lenses are right, its a clear step up from the One X. Its exactly what I was afraid of - something you cannot fix with a firmware update.
Same please ... I would like to know because I'm really interested in this 360 camera. Editing photos and videos on a phone and computer. This is very important.
This looks like the camera that does it all. I want to do virtual tours as well as video while I play/teach pickleball. The question still remains, ease of workflow, Cupix/Matterport friendly, mac software and will it replace my Theta V and Insta 360 R. To date the 360 R will not do the virtual tour on Matterport of Cupix. So many options. Ben, hellllpppp.
@@BenClaremont Don't get me wrong, it's miles ahead of my original qoocam, I just heard from other sources that they were cheap lenses. I guess at that price point you can't expect more than this yet. Thanks for your great information and videos!
¡Gracias Ben! I do have a question for you...I’m being thinking in recording my tours (I’m a guide in Ireland) in 360, but all the tour,non stop the 8 to 12 hours, Is it possible ? I’ll need a portable large memory so every so often download the camera card into her I suppose ...and then...May I post the meganormous video in Facebook or somethingnet ? My tours are cancel because the pandemia and I’ll like to offer to my friends the chance of seeing Ireland without leaving their houses(at the moment they are grounded all in Spain). It’s my project , so I cannot spend lot of money in it. Any wise advise? Thanks!
Hey- to be honest no-one would watch an 8-12 hour video.. even 1 hour is pushing it. Instead I’d suggest shooting the highlights of the tour, and editing it down to around 30 mins 👍
Hey Ben! Do you think Qoocam 8K video performance has been improving? Not going to lie, it takes Amazing pictures but so far its video looks pretty terrible (Overexposure, grainy/ noisy, poor low light performance, doesn't do well with bright sun, etc) especially when comparing to cheaper 4K 360 like Max or One R. These cameras are expensive and I want to get one.
Thumbs up but I really wish you'd talk about the quality instead of just taking photos. How does it compare to traditional photo quality from a good smartphone? What about a GoPro Max? I hope the next review will be more in depth.
HI Jeff I just did the firmware update on the QooCam8k and it has improved, the touchscreen is fixed, and the phone is staying 5-10 degrees cooler now i have noticed, there seems to be a little bit of a wider color aperture as well.
Next time you want to take close-up shots of the ducks/geese/birds, bring some bread. That camera on selfie stick you put by the tree would have been nice shots if you had bread crumbs leading them to your camera. Hmmm, wondering what would happen if you put breadcrumb on your camera lens as well :) Nice video mate, cheers!
@@BenClaremont Ben Claremont Thanks! Remember not to rush them too, let them find the bread by themselves. Lastly, don't tell them you have camera in there, they're shy to strangers, you know (kidding :) Looking forward to your fine dining video with them. Take care and all the best!
@@BenClaremont wondered how things have changed since that video as you both mentioned the Q8k would be better with time and updates? Is Z1 still best?
@@BenClaremont Based on that video, it seemed like you thought the Qoocam hardware may be better, but the software/workflow was holding it back. Which would you pick for doing virtual tours for profit?
Hope you're all staying safe :)
Selfy stick social distancing is the way to go...
Thanks Ben! For virtual tours, Qoocam 8k or Theta Z1 or something else?
@@Swing4TheRing Down below he says Q8k over Z1
Hello Ben
I missed your free Virtual Tour Course offer 😣
Is there a way that I can be re-offered ?
Thanks for the tutorials & reviews 😀🇨🇦✌
Hey man great video. Would love to see an update video to the Kandao Qoocams Firmware Updates and Features added since. Super HDR etc
8k Video Review
Hi Ben, great vids, what is your work flow with this Qoocam that is different to your Theta workflow? Import into Lightroom etc or just photoshop, or not at all and having to workaround..?
Which one would you choose now? Ricoh Theta Z1 or the Quoocam 8k?
Qoocam 8k
@@BenClaremont Really struggling with the battery life on both cameras! Thoughts on how to shoot tours back to back, video content etc when you don't have time to charge it up? I guess the Quoocam you can charge it WHILE shooting? So I need to strap a charging pack to the monopod? Isn't that in the shot now? BTW I purchased your training course.
Is qoocam 8k compatible with Matterport software?
I'm looking at this cam for Trail running and Mountain biking video. This or the Insta 360 One X2. Inclined to go the Qoocam, as the better resolution and looks better for low light... What would you recommended Mr Claremont?
Workflow info would be great. PC and/or mac? How much post processing is needed?
Was it just me or were you blurry when you took the shot of you laying on your back?
Does the qoocam 8k enterprise solves the defocus from overheat problem ? Is image quality better than the new insta360 one inch ? Thanks
@benclaremont So for tours would you recommend this over the Z1 or the other way round?
Yes I would
Just bought my Z1 :((
@@xavier6037 Having seen more than one or two of the issues people are having with the Kandao I think I will stick with the Z1 :-)
Great video! Is the Qoocam worth it in May 2020? I am looking to shoot some photos and mostly videos of hikes and travels. How is the HDR and colors compared to Theta Z1?
Will compare them soon :)
If you had to choose between the Ricoh Theta Z1 and the Qoocam 8k for virtual tours, which one would you choose? Also, Granville Island is the best!
Yes it is.. I’ll do my best to post a comparison of the two cameras soon 👍
Hi Ben,
Between GoPro Max and qoocam 8K which is the best in general condition? Like photo, video and other features.
Stay Safe
Qoocam definitely :)
Hi Ben and thanks for the video. What do you think of Aurora HDR to blend and edit the 3 bracketed photos you took for instance. Good option?
I haven’t used it, but I heard others have. Not sure what the workflow would look like for the Qoocam though
Ben Claremont thanks a lot, I’m going to try it. 👍
Ben, are shooting with 360 cameras like QuooCam 8k for virtual tours considered as professional or is DSLR/Mirrorless a better option? I'm an architecture and travel photographer and new to 360 (Still not a lot of people are into it in India)
DSLR with a pano head is better, just requires a lot more learning
Hi Ben, what do you think the best 360 camera is currently for still 360 photos? i have a fusion, its ok but gets a little poor on quality for objects in distance i found.
is there anything new coming out worth waiting for?
Im in the UK, a lot of these cameras look great when demos done in sunny California but in UK weather im not so sure.
I want as crisp as possibke 360 photos, just not sure what 360 camera is best in 2022, advice much appreciated mate.
Geese be like: Whys that guy calling us ducks bruh?
Which camera are you using (filming) for making this video? The shots in low light where amazing...
GH5 for this video
Hey,
After testing the Qoocam a bit deeper now. How would you rate it against the Theta Z1? Especially for shooting virtual tours.....and all the other use cases ;) ?
Thanks and regards
I would like to know this as well.
See the video I posted before this one 👍
Ben Claremont thanks. So I think I‘ll wait a little bit more for the QooCam to evolve. Right now it‘s still hard to decide between Z1 and QooCam.
@@SHSolutions Theta Z1 vs Qoocam 8k facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
Hi Ben Great Videos Would you use this cam for Virtual tours? Or would you go with the Insta360 One X?
Yes definitely :)
Hi Ben, Im looking to purchase a 360 cam for real estate virtual tour. Would you still recommend Z1 over Qoocam for virtual tour?
Will post a new video about it soon :)
Thank you, Ben - love your stuff! Is the software now updated and has the camera now become better than the Z1 as you predicted in an earlier video? And: do you think Matterport will open for the Qoocam 8Kuse in the future? (is it good enough? ) Geir from Norway :-)
Yeah it’s definitely improved and it’s good enough to use without frustration. Not perfect but ready enough. And yeah hopefully Matterport will open their borders to all 360 cams soon 👍
Theta Z1 will be always better for pictures. facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
I am a real estate photographer. I am 76 so change does not come easy. I have to get into the 360 market and having frustration with all the info which camera is best for still. Leaning toward the Qoo cam 8k and secondary Zeta Z. Any suggestions?
Hi David, both are great options, if you’re already experienced with DSLR photography then you will have no problem handling the Qoocam :)
Thanks for the video. Do you think they have worked out the kinks in the software to work for shooting tours?
Yes they have enough at this point to make the workflow easy to shoot and edit a full tour
Can you do a video how your workflow and the software you use. I’m trying to figure out a workflow for virtual tours in real estate.
Hi Ben! Thank you for your review. I'm very interested in this camera but in the QooCam's site I can't see some detailed technical specification: can you help me?
So is it getting better then Z1 for Interior Estate virtual tours or not yet? Which is better to buy for the moment?
Yes it’s better, but a slightly longer workflow
Theta Z1 will be always better for pictures. facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
Hi Ben. A question from Peru in the middle of the quarantine. I have to select a 360 camera to buy right now, and there a few options available. Theta S, Theta V, Theta M15, Theta SC and Insta 360 X. Which one do you recommend? I'm going to use it for real estate, with Kuula or Theasy. Regards from Peru.
Of those, I’d choose Theta V for real estate
Hi were the photos shown in the video edited in-camera or taken in Photoshop? They look really good.
Thanks :) yes I did some editing of the raw files in photoshop. But mostly just colour correction
Great video. One question. Where do I find bracketing in dng8 mode?
Thanks- you have to do it manually by changing the exposure :)
As always: Great photos/videos. Meanwhile I got my Qoocam 360 8k. But damn! How do you stitch/edit photos/videos on a Mac? The camera is supposed to do internal stitching. Is there a setup for that? After my positive experiences with Insta360 One X I wonder if I made a mistake buying the QooCam. Hope that I just missed something, so I can start editing without having to bother stitching. I'm sure you can help! - But, Ben, above all: STAY HEALTHY!!!
Thanks Walter, I’m just using the Mac desktop software from their site :)
Hey Walter! I'm thinking of doing entry-level Real Estate 3D tours in my area and it's between the Qoocam and One X. Having both, what's your advice given your experience? Thanks in advance!
@@BenClaremont Which Mac desktop software are you referring to? Are you using QooCam Studio 1.0? QooCam Studio 1.0 says it's only for QooCam -- not QooCam 8K. QooCam Studio 2.0, which says it's designed for QooCam 8K, is only available for Windows -- not Macs. ... Would it work for me to use QooCam Studio 1.0?
@@andrewamy10
hi there, you can take a look on their website , name Kandao Raw+
How is the Qoocam 8K for video? I've gone from the Insta360 Nano, One, and One X (5.6K) and have yet to see an 8K camera from Insta360 so am looking if the Qoocam will satisfy my craving for 8K video.
I really like that last 360 edit. That gives me some inspiration to take more 360 video and photos.
Extremely good footage on this camera. I am considering a purchase very soon to replace and upgrade my Ricoh Theta V which is poor for video. what is your experience with the workflow
Should be wonderful to go back one year later to see how qcam did with the latest software updates and what's your opinion I'm in a limbo land now because of the sea one or two can I hear is getting much better please give me an update quickly
I would really like to see your workflow with QooCam Studio. It's been really buggy on Macbook Pro and I can't seem to get images even stitched. I'll keep at it but that would be awesome. Great video Ben, thanks!
Most of these were done with post on the computer do you think this camera has a future with mobile
Yes definitely. I will include the mobile workflow when I make a proper review :)
"Damn you ducks" lol I always enjoy some Mr. Ben profanities. Way to keep it 100%
🦆🖕😂
Thanks!
I’ve been playing with the dng8 vs single shot and I’m not really sure it is worth the extra workflow steps. I’ve got a solid Mac and it really takes quite a while.
Thoughts?
They’re in the process of adding a feature that does it all automatically. Yes definitely worth using :)
Ben Claremont Cool. Maybe I need to bracket 3-5 of the dng8’s as I’ve really not been impressed with the amount of noise in the shadows. Hopefully they’ll add bracketing. Also a histogram as trying to set exposure just by the screen is not the best.
Everytime I try to update the firmware. The app on my phone crashes around 90%. And Qoocam Studio won't load. Crashes like 3 secs after opening. Really getting annoyed. Any suggestion? Reached out to customer support but no answer in over 24 hours.
Hey Ben little off topic (best virtual tour software) was wondering if you ever got Pano2VR and if yes could you possibly do a DEMO / basic tutorial of it. I got it and even though there are tutorials out there , I can't find one that covers the basics very WELL.
Hi Ben, when you took the 24 shot bracketed HDR, does the Qoocam 8k save the individual images or automatically merge them together as a single file? Thanks!
Yeah it saves them individually
@@BenClaremont Great! Any chance you could do a short video showing how to set up the brackets and exposures? That's something that is surprisingly hard to find, I want to see how it works before buying
Great video. I think this camera is a good compromise between price and quality. I generally shoot 360 spherical stills. Do you have a tutorial dedicated to the DNG 8 process you used in this process?
Will release one soon :)
@@BenClaremont Thanks. I will look forward to it. I am tossing up between Insta360 One R and Qoocam 8K. But if your review shows that the Qoocam is better for stills, then that's what I'll do.
Wow man, pretty good colors.
hi Ben, what would you recommend to me if i need a cam for Work and also for fun. Iam a real estate agent so it sould do the best possible job with indoor fotos. Like your materport shoot. Last test you say the insta r!?
I would like Ben's thoughts on this as well. Ben, if you were going to buy a camera today for Real Estate tours, which would you buy under $1000...thanks.
Do you know whether qoocam will work with matterport.
Nope
Good Job, Ben. 👏👍 More Videos and Tutorials with the QooCam 8k please! 👏🌹😍
Thanks, will do!
Ben Claremont 👍😍🌹
Insta One x2 or qoocam 8k?
4:39 the warping is awesome. I'm seeing trails:)
I have received mine a few days ago and is going back. Qoocam Studio can’t recognize it,s own DNG images. Can’t even reframe its mov files.
Are you sure you have the latest version? It’s probably not an issue with the actual camera, but the software version. Mine works without issue.
Yeah, the software sucks. My current workflow for DNG8 is to run it through Raw+ first to stack the DNG, then colour grade - output as TIFF, then to Kandao Studio for stitching. Send that equirectangular image to CaptureOne for noise reduction and sharpening and finally to my phone if I want to make it into a tiny planets or reframed image. Ugh. The jpegs out of the camera are still sharper than from the DNG8 stack, but are really poor in other respects.
Some people have suggested using Mistika VR but honestly the thought of paying an exorbitant price just to fix Kandao's problems pisses me off. Tried with PTgui but it still doesn't work quite right.
Keep the camera. The hardware is as good as they'll make it.
This company is beta testing this product with the clients. The version of Qoocam Studio they have online is legacy from 2019 , and the new one 1.5.1.5, was sent by cloud drive, and it does not support DNG either; "......Dear Santiago,
1. Currently, QooCam Studio doesn't accept DNG photos.
Please get a single DNG in Raw+ (Raw+ can be found in: www.kandaovr.com/download/)and convert DNG to JPG in PS and stitch the converted JPG in QooCam Studio.
Pls see detailed process in below page:
www.kandaovr.com/faq/qoocam/
No.42: How can I process DNG image?
2. Currently we have 8K 30fps and 4K 120 fps.
more options like 4K 30, 60fps will be available via future firmware...."
I had to pay DHL to return this product back to HongKong.
Hi Ben, I'm a big fan of your videos and you have inspired me to dive into 360 virtual tours. However, I have a dilemma I'm currently dealing with and I need your help. I'm a stickler for perfection/ high quality, especially with photography because I am a professional photographer. If I'm going to become a professional virtual tour photographer I want to produce virtual tours with stunning clarity and resolution and this is where my dilemma is causing me pain. You see, I have a Canon 5d Mk II dslr and I don't know if I should use it for Virtual Tour creation or should I purchase a 360 camera such as the Qoocam 8K, a camera you highly recommend. I notice you don't mention anything about using professional dslr for 360 virtual tours which adds to my dilemma. Your answer to this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Hey- yeah you can shoot with a DSLR and a pano head, however it’s pretty advanced and complex. I’m all about simple workflow hence why I use 360 cameras. Qoocam isn’t that expensive, so would consider picking it up and testing for yourself, you can always learn the DSLR method later :)
Ben Claremont Thanks!
Nice photos Ben! hope your staying safe !
Thanks David, likewise
sick! I think I've just found my hdr cam for CGI mapping
How do you edit the 360 photos in post to move around like you did in video format?
GoPro FX reframe plugin for premiere
Not sure I understand your explaining the 24 shot example. Why so many? Couldn't you get a similar quality with several shots at those bracketed EV's? Seems overkill at 24. Does Qoocam stitch multiple images in the software or do you have to always do it manually in PS? This maybe my next purchase. Thx!
DNG8 (the mode I used before that) at 3 different exposures (the traditional HDR method)
So if I’m understanding it correctly the DNG8 is not HDR but stack images to make the JPEG clearer then you take three different exposures to create HDR image, right?
Nice work Ben. 😀👍
Hey Ben, I don't get the idea of the DNG8 thing. It shoots 8 photos of the same exposure, same everything, what's the point?
Hey- as I mentioned it combines them all together to eliminate imperfections like noise etc
@@BenClaremont if 8 exposure have the exact same ISO, shutterspeed, aperture, then all 8 image are exactly the same, except for some movements. How does it enhance the noise?
Noise moves. Just like when you see a dark/grainy video.. it’s not static. So combining them together essentially fills in the blanks.
@@BenClaremont I haven't had time to really test it yet. I'm having a lot of problems with the Qoocam 8K and it's not connecting. So I'm gonna return it, hopefully I can get my money back.
Do You see a huge difference watching your 8K footages here on youtube when using Oculus go and then choose youtube inside the oculus? I find the youtube 360VR 4k videos when using the Oculus go sadly incredibly horrible for ist apparent low resolution,.... when comparing just watching the very same 4k youtube clip on a 27 inch iMac without oculus... i am hoping your 8K videos here do show an improvement when using oculus go and seeing your 8K videos through youtube and oculus...
Haven’t tested on oculus yet.. but I will :)
@benclaremont i go riding my utv on trails and recently decided to switch from a gopro set up to an insta360 one x set up. its great that the one x can capture multiple angles but what happens if i want to use two or three in a dedicated type set up. how can i control them all at one and how can we speed up the editing process?
Ben, I await delivery of my 360 degree camera. In the meantime are you able to provide all the high res files that make up a virtual tour? I'd be interested in files from the Qoocam 8K and Theta Z1.
Theta Z1 will be always better for pictures. facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
Thanks for the video, it partially influenced me to buy this camera. But I'm still not clear on your workflow. I'm also shooting bracketed DNG8s but I don't know how to stitch them reliably. I can use the KanDao Raw+ to merge the DNG8 files and then I can do the HDR merge in LR or whatever. I'm stuck at the stitching step. KanDao Raw+ does not convert to other formats and KanDao Studio does not support KanDao raw files or tiffs/jpegs from other software. It's a bit of a catch 22. At the moment I'm using PTGui for stitching but it is not reliable.
Will release a workflow video soon 👍
Hi,
I have an issue with the equirectangular outputs stitched in-camera and I wonder if anyone has encountered it too. They're all slightly different, like if they've been processed with different pitch, roll and yaw parameters. Dual fisheye originals look ok when processed with Qoocam Studio.
Has anyone encountered the same problem?
I'm having a hard time deciding between Qoocam 8K and Theta Z1. I'd go with the Qoocam if someone told me the bugs were worked out.
as it is a very new camera, there are still bugs but if you stay with it, i believe it will be better than the Z1 by June
Theta Z1 will be always better for pictures. facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
Name of that cool track?
Calling Me by Ooyy
Great content! Any videos you might have on the way you show these shots in the video - I mean the way of just looking around in them? As well as making them into a sphere? Keep up the good work!
Any chance you've experimented with 360 timelapse on this camera yet?
Not yet. But I will
on the field is it good for autonomous and than the thetha for photos is it better and for video better than an insta one x or r,thx
What do you mean?
@@BenClaremont the comparison between the qoocam is it better the other cameras,and also about the autonomie is it worth?
Is dng8 only an option for stationary scenes and when used on a tripod? I would imagine that you get motion blur and ghost images when 8 shots are combined.
You can use it handheld, as I believe the shots are taken all at once
I got the qoocam 8k and the lens is decentered or simply not aligned with the sensor or something. I get huge softness in the dead center oddly. The edge of one lens is amazingly sharp. I notice the soft areas really want to focus extremely close up, like 12 inches, but if you have a horizon, its very soft. I hope I can get an exchange that just has the lenses aligned right because this thing does shoot details sharper than the One X I have, but only on one edge of one lens. If I get one where the lenses are right, its a clear step up from the One X. Its exactly what I was afraid of - something you cannot fix with a firmware update.
Yes, Qoocam8K lens is cheap.
Comparsion- Theta Z1 vs Qoocam8K facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
Perfect job as always!!! Thx Ben. Can you make video about Pilot One?
Thanks! I’ll do my best.. still haven’t turned it on yet lol
Bro u are true 360 inpsiration
Would be nice to see the workflow, how and where you edit the photos.
Also got a qoocam 8k but struggling with the editing.
Same please ... I would like to know because I'm really interested in this 360 camera. Editing photos and videos on a phone and computer. This is very important.
This looks like the camera that does it all. I want to do virtual tours as well as video while I play/teach pickleball. The question still remains, ease of workflow, Cupix/Matterport friendly, mac software and will it replace my Theta V and Insta 360 R. To date the 360 R will not do the virtual tour on Matterport of Cupix. So many options. Ben, hellllpppp.
Will release a follow up video soon :)
Nice shots...awesome camera!
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Superb 👌👌
Please tell me light Room Mobile app is Effective in post production throw mobile
If possible Can You tell me 24 Bracketing Settings
Thanks
I don’t really use that app but I can look into it 👍
What phone app do you use for the qoocam?
The Qoocam app
These photos seem blurry, I really want this camera but I have heard the optics make blurry images, is that true for indoor tour type shots too?
To be honest I’m not sure what you’re expecting, as this is where 360 cameras are at in 2020 and sharper images would require a DSLR and a pano head
@@BenClaremont Don't get me wrong, it's miles ahead of my original qoocam, I just heard from other sources that they were cheap lenses. I guess at that price point you can't expect more than this yet. Thanks for your great information and videos!
Yes it actually delivers by far the best result for that price point. I’ll release a full review soon 👍
For VT photos would you rate this higher than the Z1?
@@jimnightshade8966 Theta Z1 vs Qoocam8K facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
Thanks Ben!!! 😀
Thanks Ben !
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¡Gracias Ben! I do have a question for you...I’m being thinking in recording my tours (I’m a guide in Ireland) in 360, but all the tour,non stop the 8 to 12 hours, Is it possible ? I’ll need a portable large memory so every so often download the camera card into her I suppose ...and then...May I post the meganormous video in Facebook or somethingnet ? My tours are cancel because the pandemia and I’ll like to offer to my friends the chance of seeing Ireland without leaving their houses(at the moment they are grounded all in Spain). It’s my project , so I cannot spend lot of money in it. Any wise advise? Thanks!
Hey- to be honest no-one would watch an 8-12 hour video.. even 1 hour is pushing it. Instead I’d suggest shooting the highlights of the tour, and editing it down to around 30 mins 👍
Ben Claremont , thanks!
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This is so cool!
good stuff! love the innovations... inspirational!
Qoocam 8k or z1?
Qoocam for the end result, Z1 for fast workflow. Choose one :)
Hey Ben! Do you think Qoocam 8K video performance has been improving? Not going to lie, it takes Amazing pictures but so far its video looks pretty terrible (Overexposure, grainy/ noisy, poor low light performance, doesn't do well with bright sun, etc) especially when comparing to cheaper 4K 360 like Max or One R. These cameras are expensive and I want to get one.
Will do my best to test it and make a video 👍
Got mine a week ago. Super happy with the result however it is very processor hungry.
Nice.. yeah it is
pls do a sample video on youtube on Qandao 8k
Great review and demo. Thanks. Been thinking about this camera, especially since I just lost my Fusion to foolishness. Thanks -H
No worries 👍
Thumbs up but I really wish you'd talk about the quality instead of just taking photos. How does it compare to traditional photo quality from a good smartphone? What about a GoPro Max? I hope the next review will be more in depth.
Yeah this wasn’t a review, just a fun BTS video 👍
Hey dude, have you noticed a major improvement on this camera over the past month or so with updates coming through? Great content, keep em' coming.
Will test further ASAP and report my findings :)
Thank you sir. 👍
HI Jeff I just did the firmware update on the QooCam8k and it has improved, the touchscreen is fixed, and the phone is staying 5-10 degrees cooler now i have noticed, there seems to be a little bit of a wider color aperture as well.
Stay home Ben,stay safe
Cool one
That was cool! Thanks!
Next time you want to take close-up shots of the ducks/geese/birds, bring some bread. That camera on selfie stick you put by the tree would have been nice shots if you had bread crumbs leading them to your camera. Hmmm, wondering what would happen if you put breadcrumb on your camera lens as well :)
Nice video mate, cheers!
Good idea!
@@BenClaremont Ben Claremont Thanks!
Remember not to rush them too, let them find the bread by themselves. Lastly, don't tell them you have camera in there, they're shy to strangers, you know (kidding :)
Looking forward to your fine dining video with them.
Take care and all the best!
The ducks are not ducks...quite clearly sparrows dude🙄 Amazing content! Keep up the great work!
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Those pesky ducks! Purely for photography, how would you rate the Q8k against the Z1?
Indeed. I made a video comparing them, it’s the one before this one on my channel.
@@BenClaremont wondered how things have changed since that video as you both mentioned the Q8k would be better with time and updates? Is Z1 still best?
@@devon360virtualtoursdroneb3 Theta Z1 will be always better for pictures. facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
Song at 4:24???
Found it haha th-cam.com/video/iYQswh4nO4M/w-d-xo.html
Awesome 👍🏻
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Good, but not as good as the Z1?
I would say better- check out my previous video to see them side by side
@@BenClaremont Based on that video, it seemed like you thought the Qoocam hardware may be better, but the software/workflow was holding it back. Which would you pick for doing virtual tours for profit?
QooCam
@@BenClaremont love to see your post process. Camera is coming in days. Clients waiting. I'm nervous about it. Thank you
@@BryonBlack1 Theta Z1 will be always better for pictures. facebook.com/groups/panoramicphotographers/permalink/3345177925526295/
cool
How’s its video? It does video right?